Future cars must have automatic brakes
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- Опубликовано: 29 апр 2024
- Federal safety standards issued Monday will require new cars to have automatic emergency brakes that can bring them to a complete stop without crashing or hitting pedestrians even at high speeds, saving hundreds of lives a year.
Automakers will have until the fall of 2029 to comply, but officials at the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said they expect the industry to be able to deploy the systems ahead of the deadline.
NHTSA estimates the rules will prevent 362 road deaths per year and reduce the severity of 24,321 injuries.
The agency is also exploring a requirement that vehicles be equipped with technology to block drunken driving. The work is in its early stages, but supporters say alcohol detection technology could save 10,000 lives per year. - Приколы
Not the bulliton board! It was so expensive!
It was so expensed-ive !!
I'll see myself out
bulletin is not that hard to spell, doomclaw. they even spell it correctly in the captions
Did you edit your spelling correction because of, perhaps, accidentally misspelling something? @@e7193
@@e7193womp womp
@@quarksnstuffshut up bro
Now he can expense another board
I like the way you think
only if they don't save it in the future!
We have to go back!
😊😊😊😊😊@@ElkorGod
@@washingtonpostuniverse You know you now have to make a sequel in 2029 right?
How about making it illegal to have all these bright ass LED headlights that practically blind me whenever I look in the rear view mirror
Or make them only for brights, I find it’s worse with oncoming traffic, your dims shouldn’t be brighter than my dims. I like my brights to be bright.
As someone who bought the car without knowing these were even a thing (all future purchases will require *nighttime* test drives) ... we hate them too. 😢
That's actually the government too. I know someone that works on headlights for a car company. The safety ratings that get thrown on cars require headlights to see further and further down the road. Including more left and right of the vehicle. Thus, they need to be brighter. If they are too dim it's a safety issue. -- It's also a safety issue not to see.
@@DDRMixer Well, congratulations on seeing all the way to Siberia, but if you leave me blind your children and mine will be orphans :D
@@abriannaaguilera2123 What is your problem? I was saying it's the government requiring it.
Had a rental with these once. When going around a curve it loved to slam on the brakes if there was a car that we would hit in the event that I stopped turning.
I really really hope that this is no longer an issue...
From what I've heard over the last year the inappropriate braking is still a problem
well they have 4 years to figure it out.
Brand new cars still have this issue. I heavily doubt it will be fixed by 2029. I'm more interested in after market sensor replacements that pretend everything is okay. -- Especially having been in a car that turned off cruise control since snow got on the sensors.
My new car has assisted breaking and sometimes it slows me down because a car on the side of the road triggers it or a car on the highway passes me. It's weird, but mostly useful.
I work for Enterprise Rentals and I can tell you right now these automatic breaking systems are AWFUL. I’ve seen cars slamming on the breaks from going upwards on ramps, from pulling out from between two vehicles, and even occasionally detecting cars to your sides as infront of your vehicle. Horrible feature.
Awesome, now they can slap on another $10000 to the cost of an entry level car.
Yes - I just had this conversation with my friend. In Denmark the entry cars are freaking expensive. Darn safety systems
My semi truck has this feature. It’s really good at stopping for shadows, plastic bags flying across the road and traffic cones that are laid out to merge traffic from one side of the freeway to the other which makes people who are tailgating me wonder why I randomly brake checked them. It never applies the brakes when there’s actually an obstacle I need to avoid hitting like stopped traffic, deer or pedestrians. I’ve been a licensed driver for 12 years and I’ve never rear ended anyone or gotten into a crash. All that aside, assuming this feature does what it’s designed to do, I’m sure this feature will free up time to text, eat and scroll through TikTok instead of doing the mundane task of actually paying attention when you’re driving.
Like I get the simple idea of, "if car stop for you then less crash" but that would definitely raise prices, have manufacturers cut more corners, and entice people to just text and drove (like you said).
@@tenkontewl6105Wait, so is the argument that we *shouldn't* have that feature because some people will then take driving less seriously? Because that's not making much sense to me. Or I'm not seeing how this relates, directly, to the legislation. Seems like a separate issue, but it also seems really obvious that if we can prevent fatalities on the road via safety features, we should try. Besides. The people who do all the dumb stuff on the road already do the dumb stuff on the road; I find it questionable that we'd see a sudden increase just because brakes might save you - hard stop at 60+ MPH is gonna hurt.
Yeah, ideally with a system that's 100% guaranteed to stop a crash, that'd be great. But we've consistently proven that while humans aren't infallible, they're able to distinguish between a potential collision and a plastic bag. Encouraging car makers to have automatic breaks will, in my opinion, cause more accidents due to technology not being able to properly discern actual potential collisions and more people not paying attention to the road because they think the automatic breaks will save them. There's a reason why our military only uses humans in handling nuclear weapons, because technology will inevitably cause a calamity due to some bug or miscalculation. Hell, there's some self-driving cars that're programmed to save the life of the driver over pedestrians (on one side it makes sense, but it essentially boils down to technology making a choice based on the trolley problem). Maybe some day artificial intelligence will be comparable to human cognizance, but that is not currently true.
@@samc9133 That's actually exactly what happens. Depending on how old you are, you might remember automatic shoulder belts that pulled into position when the door closed. Those are now COMPLETELY unavailable, because they found that it encouraged drivers to not bother fastening the lap belts.
@@samc9133you think these technologies actually prevent crashes? Bless your little heart.
The board’s character development is insane lmao
I think the board deserves its own TT channel 😂
He expensed it so he has to use it
So they want to regulate that!! Yet they don't want to regulate the need to have designated AMBER/ Orange Turner signals, not do they wan to regulate the size of break lights.
Both would would also assist in automobile safety.
Politicians really don't know where to regulate.
The problem is that with the small size of our legislatures - federal, state, and municipal - all you get are politicians who are good at fundraising, but not good at thinking about what laws need amendment, repeal, or creation.
it's gonna be hard to find a pedestrian going at 45mph😛
no, the car is going at 45 mph (max) and it has to be able to see a pedestrian crossing and stop. The pedestrian speed is irrelevant.
@@Nixplaystrombonelol. Woooosh was the sound of the joke flying by.
@@NixplaystromboneYo this little 😛 emoji is there to indicate they are being playful. ✨The More You Know ✨
@@sumduma55 Flying by at 45 mph.
@@Nixplaystrombonewhy? I want to contribute to reducing population
Carjackers gonna love this feature.
Right! Because they know they can brake check you and jump out and steal your car
Not exactly how it works. If you push ln the accelerator it will disengage easily. It is a pretty useful feature that saved me from an accident of an idiot brake checking me
There will be so many whiplash claims because the automatic brakes will either brake too suddenly or the sensors will be triggered accidentally
Not like you’re going to get a Dolorian up to a high enough speed to need automatic breaks.
Yeah, that was the funniest part of the "88mph" requirement.
@GSBarlev considering it runs on plutonium, I think it migth have some modifications
😂😂😂
@@tailstechvideos2327 its been a while since ive seen bttf but i think only the flux capacitor needed plutonium? the car itself was, for all intents and purposes, a stock delorean iirc
88mph
So, training good drivers and weeding out the bad ones, banning of unnecessary accessories that hamper driving awareness, and improving public transportation is somehow a less reasonable option than mandating cars need some tech garbage.
What did you expect?
Imagine getting car jacked and your car physically won’t let you drive away because doing so would trigger its automatic brakes.
Yeah, a more confortable system for criminals can not be conjured up
That's.... Not how any of these systems ( that are already in a majority of new cars) work at all. People just be saying any shit lol
It just means your car likes the car-jacker better
It’s so easy to override it only applies oncr
@@faizanahmad7730 if you learn what a joke is your friends will actually start liking you
Posting this as a full comment and not a reply because it needs to be seen. STOP VOTING THIS SHIT IN. Im a mechanic and while most of you will say "oh hes just being lazy" or "he doesnt want to do the job". Its not that, those brakes are currently out now, and while they seem great everything about them has increased the pricing of brake pads rotors and calipers. If you do the job even slightly wrong you can break the motor on the caliper, ruin the new sensor you have to replace every time you do brakes, the connector/ wiring harness to the brakes, and even if all that went the way its supposed. There are cars out now when trying to put them into brake service mode (yes now i need a mode to change brakes) it'll throw a brake warning codes causing a lot more labor to be fixed and to make sure something didnt actually break. Learned that last one the HARD way not too long ago on a 2020 or something ford 150 transit
Edit and just some proof another mechanic at my shop was doing a different ford that had them and messed it up causing the motor to break. The dealer charged $800+ dollars for a plastic encase motor that has two torques bit screws and a connector.
Nah that doesn't sound like you're being lazy. It sounds like the build is becoming more complicated which makes sense. I think we've all seen that cars have become more difficult to service over the years. Mainly because they don't want you to service it, they want it all done by the vendor which sucks for everyone.
I'm not sure that'd be enough for me to say "let's completely trash this safety feature" though. If you were to say "stop voting seat belts in because it makes it harder to service the seat" it would be the same thing.
Maybe there should be some kind of rule that you can't make this stuff so painful that a third party mechanic can't reliably do the work. I don't know what the answer is here but not advancing the tech seems the wrong way to me personally.
@@samc9133 its not like the feature is inherently bad for everyone but it shouldn’t be federally mandated. It doesn’t seem like it would be reliable, and it could be really bad for some people. If it goes off in error people will get rear ended by the people who don’t have this feature. And some people have back problems! If it goes off in error, it can really really hurt someone like that!!
@@samc9133 thank you for actually understanding. In my opinion normal emergency brakes work just as well. Yeah the cable can stretch on ones that do it that way but it takes a while of misuse and over setting the tension. Similar can be said for drum brakes which were used for the majority of older vehicles and were considered to still be "better" than disc but if you took the drum off without adjusting the inner pads you can mess them up. All brake solutions aren't perfect and I'm not gonna claim they are I just feel this isn't gonna significantly help the mass public and instead is really meant for the auto makers to be able to charge an arm and a leg just for parts. You know what probably won't go up with that price though, my pay or any other mechanics pay. Not saying it 100% won't cause the lay structure varies from shop to shop. Some guys get paid $18-$30 an hour like a normal person, plus maybe a bonus if they are lucky. Places like mine don't pay like that and actually tell us to just do easy jobs to help make our money. Literally was told once by a corporate trainer "We don't want you guys doing days worth of work on a car. Just get the easy jobs like batteries, light bulbs, and filters. Which I think is a load of crap. I still recommend front struts brakes on almost anything that needs them (recently sworn off transit vans not due to the epb but the assortment of torque to fail bolts or torque to yield bolts which has caused me to lose several days over trying to get the right fucking bolts. Guess from who that's right the ford dealer.
@@relaxingtoday4010 oh I get that, to me that's alittle more obvious just because idk I'm a mechanic and actually work on these from time to time already. So I've already heard the stories of how they don't always function right, but the manufacturer doesn't really care if it works perfectly as long as it meets government standards which also explains why ford produces the cars it produces. Note I don't hate ford I actually prefer their old cars more than any JDM car. It's just the only ones with the epb that I've had serious trouble with not to mention the class action lawsuit lug nuts.
The law seems absurd because cars are absurd to start with. How else do you reconcile the casual use of 2-ton, 80-mph-capable heavy machinery to pick up the milk with squishy meatbags that regularly kick the bucket after falling down the stairs? Politicians aren't doing this out of some misplaced sense of responsibility for the safety of their constituents, they're doing it because so many people are dying in car crashes that _it's depressing the economy and making them look bad_
My grandpa was reversing the family utility trailer into the driveway for yardwork but the car kept auto-stopping because it was like "crash imminent!" 🙄
Can’t wait to replace my pads every month! I sure do love mechanical nannies that treat me like I’m stupid!
Most drivers are stupid.
This is still a really bad idea though.
@@tadferd4340Might not be a problem if we didn't require people to drive everywhere. Maybe if we funded public transportation, brought back streetcars, and got rid of these godawful parking requirements we could have a country not constantly bankrupting itself to bail out automakers, banks, and cities that can't afford to maintain their infrastructure because repaving and widening roads costs too much.
@@doomsdayrabbit4398 Oh for sure.
@@doomsdayrabbit4398A country this big is always going to be insanely car dependent.
Could we cut back the extent a lot with public transportation? Yes. but the moment you leave cities your options are gonna be right back to car or bus.
Remember all those French protests because fuel prices went up arbitrarily without taking into consideration that non-urban people still in fact exist?
@@1stCallipostle Yeah, but that's the thing. We have next to NO public transit. "A country this big" - as if there's no rural areas in a country like Switzerland. They just actually use their railroads to transport people and not just stuff, and implement public transit in towns that aren't already nearing the size of a massive city, because NIMBY racists think public transit spawns black people like they used to think meat just spawns maggots.
If history tells us anything, the car industry will find a way to delay implementation
Those automatic brakes are literally the fucking worst . You know when you're driving down the road and your car just stops for no fucking reason
What car do you drive? The car I drove has auto braking but does none of that.
Doesn't happen
Finally! I want all cars to have a higher sticker price by having extras please
@@uwu-egirl-azzySo not exactly the same but a similar issue, I drove my mothers new Palisade that has all of the bells and whistles and one thing is automatic lane departure correction, traction control and auto braking and it is one of the sketchiest things ever when it malfunctions. The highway nearby is under construction and every time I have gotten close to one specific stretch that has extremely uneven asphalt and the new lane lines are used but the old ones are still semi visible and I have had it jerk me around pretty dramatically with one time in particular I believe it would have hit the car next to me had I not slammed on the brakes. The other time that I'm amazed I survived I drove her car back from a family event for her while it was absolutely DUMPING rain. Mid way through the drive it would try to again correct in areas it shouldn't be and because of this it would lock up the brakes on its own and send it hydroplaning and would over correct and I literally had to pull over off the freeway for about 30 minutes to let the rain die down and figure out how to turn the features off that I could. From what ive heard this isn't a unique palisade issue and from when ive spoken to my mom about it and 99.9% of the time it works amazingly but when it freaks out its bad lol
Lol yeah my parents tesla used to do that before a couple updates. I imagine/hope the tech has the updated version before they roll it out to the rest of us instead of having cars panic on a certain incline of hill.
Hey, you remember how there used to be those automatic shoulder belts that came up when you got in the car? Remember how they got rid of those because it turned out to encourage drivers to be lazy and not buckle their lap belt? I'm sure there will be NO unexpected consequences to this at all!
And thats not even mentioning how lackluster this tech is and a mere 4 year deadline means it won't be getting better
Yeah fr imagine ppl not slowing down for pedestrians and going “if I was going to hit them the car would stop on its own”. Literally asking for trouble with shit like this
@@corvonics6383 That literally wouldnt even happen. It stops as an emergency to be able to react quicker. Thats like saying smoke detectors are useless because people won't pull the lever if they see a fire because they will "assume its not a real fire because the smoke detectors arent beeping"
@@PappyP And what if the brakes don't engage in time because something went wrong, and the tech has trained them not to bother with responding to emergency stops?
@@Scorpodael Smoke detectors haven’t trained people not to pull fire levers if they see a fire
I guess armed car thieves can just stand in front of the car now and you won't be able to escape
obviously you can override it by just accelerating. The point is that computer reaction time is mountains ahead of human reaction time, so getting a computer to slam on the breaks before you have the time to react to avoid a collision will save many lives including yours.
@@PappyPgood thing people aren’t ALMOST ALWAYS pressing the gas pedal on the road
@@austinwiltse3459they arent? wtf are you doing on the road?
90% of the time you are cruising if making slight adjustments here and there to your speed
i live in a really mountainous area and even i dont need to be on my accelerator that much
and in any case no these systems arent overridden by small taps on your accelerator
@@sazzy_kI don’t use and have never used cruise control. Every car I’ve ever had has had it broken and the few I’ve driven with it I didn’t use because I didn’t need it.
Also, you live in a mountainous area. Having driven through those, of COURSE you aren’t pressing the accelerator going downhill lol. It feels like you’re speeding into hell if you do. If you’re driving in a flat area, to maintain speed (especially high speed like 75-90 mph as you have to in Texas for the interstate), you have to apply constant pressure to the gas pedal, if even just a little bit.
@@PappyPHang on, then it will never work, since if I don't realize I need to stop I'll be on and off the gas like normal.
Look I get it but it's dumb. All you're doing is making cars more expensive and adding more thing that can go wrong imagine the sensor bugs out on the freeway and now you just got into a possibly fatal crash because the government said car should stop itself
They want us poor
I feel like this would also be extremely easy to hack. Whether by police or some random malicious person. I really wanted to buy one new car in my collection of classics, but with all these new regulations, I don't think I will
@@strana6875 It really wouldn't. The entire algorithm would be completely inside the car itself and would have no need for a connection to the internet and therefore would not be possible to hack.
No...? This isn't replacing human drivers, its helping them. Having a computer react to a avoid a collision (monumentally faster than a human) before you do would save lives, including your own. If the sensor doesn't work then its just a normal car. If it slams on the breaks and causes a collision over nothing, cars would immediately be fixed and recalled. Even if it worked 1% of the time it would save monumentally more lives than it would hurt. Thats like saying smoke detectors are useless because people won't pull the lever if they see a fire because they will "assume its not a real fire because the smoke detectors arent beeping"
@@PappyP
The 1% of the time it works to save someone will be offset by the 3% of the time there's a false alarm and the vehicle is sent out of control because it's on a slippery surface. Fairweather pokeaday drivers who think brakes are the answer to everything dont understand how deadly brakes applied at the wrong time can be. I would never drive a vehicle with automatic brakes in wet or icy conditions and anyone who does is gambling with their lives at this point.
This is a horrible requirement and I hope it gets repealed.
NOT THE BULLETIN BOARD! 😢
Wait, I hope you're not serious... I can already think of so much damage easily caused by such automated systems.
Tesla can't even figure this out and we expect these non tech car companies to figure it out out?😊
@@Rugg-qk4plalso tesla has a lot more software experiens in this matter
Not to fucking mention how incredibly expensive this will be. I would put good money that this law was lobbied into place secretly or otherwise.
It's not like we'd be relying on it to stop the vehicle. The automated system activates if the driver doesn't brake first
@@Rugg-qk4pl most large car companies (including Tesla and Rivian) have produced very reliable automatic emergency braking systems for years. I think you're thinking of self-driving
Not the board!!
62 MPH? We car nerds know that was 100 KPH converted to MPH.
It's probably because whatever data they're using to support this was done by the Europeans. The EU in general is much further ahead as far as motor vehicle standards go than the US.
wtf is a kilometer
@@samharris9559 kilo = 1000, 1 kilometer = 1000 meters.
@@samharris9559 You need to say it more American, WTF IS A KILOMETER 🦅🦅🦅💥💥🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲💥💥💥💥🦅🦅🦅💥💥
@@samharris9559 5/8ths of a mile
Future cars must have automatic brakes? How incompetent have people become that automatic brakes are a necessity 🤮
It's not that the average driver has suddenly become worse. It's that technology is now at the point where it can detect that the car should slow down before a driver can.
@@qqqzzzeee No system is as good as a skilled driver. These systems have frequent false positives, often creating dangerous situations, but a skilled driver can stop safely every time.
@@jeffvarwigit's not even that they're not even decent they have many issues currently that won't be fixed are extra failure points in a vehicle and like many regulations the government forced just raises the cost of vehicles and maintenance cost etc..
@@qqqzzzeee My mom's new car automatic brakes at weird times like when traffic is merging in the lane to the right of us and not the lane we are in. Both of us hate it because it also breaks very hard and not smoothly like when we use manual brakes
They’ll also have kill switches.
I swear to God trying to pull a car out of the dealership lot is so f****** hard with this
No auto breaking, bad idea
I think there is cup holders had me dying lmao
it has at least two
Your cars have cup holders?
@@washingtonpostuniversejumbo sized?
Not possible - they would be where Doc put the time circuit control mechanism.
I’m super glad people will be able to buy their lifted 8 seater Ford F1350 (with rear AND front cameras) in 2029 and not worry about paying attention to their surroundings!
They didn't pay attention to begin with, atleast make the vehicle pay attention.
I'm really confused by this kind of comment. So y'all actually think that automatic emergency breaking is going to end more lives than it will save? Is that the argument here? You're saying more people will not pay attention now, leading to more fatalities than the 40,000 per year (12,000 due to inebriation) we already have?
@@samc9133 it might save lives (which is super cool) but they should also be implementing regulations in car size/weight. I also could totally see changes like these backfiring and leading to a more dangerous environment out of a “the cars practically drive themselves” mentality, but idk that’s probably just me being pessimistic. About drunk driving, they’re making progress on requiring alcohol sensors in new cars, so i hope that pans out.
@@samc9133 Also we need safer infrastructure and stricter speed limits on streets because cars shouldn’t be interacting with pedestrians at 45 mph ever
@@zoom3184the safer infrastructure and lower speed limits is a great idea, but weight and size is so ridiculous. What about the people who live in rural areas and can’t even make it home without a large 4x4? Or service trucks like AAA? People who haul cars or trailers? People who tow for work? People who own farms/animals and have to pull trailers? People who’re driving in back country? People that have to move large couch’s or furniture? Stop being mad at large vehicles just because you don’t need them or understand why people do. It’s such an irrational hatred. We need large trucks just as much as we need small cars
Every day I like having an old car more and more
Collision detection systems in cars are trash and are too sensitive. Idk how they expect to use that garbage system with brakes applied too.
Can’t wait for that sensor to fail and the car to have seized brakes.
I'm always on board for more board lore.
then buckle up
The bulletin board lore is getting crazy
That is a safety nightmare waiting to happen.
I am highly invested in the bulletin board!
Dang, that bulletin board has been referenced like four times now. It must have been a heck of a battle to get it expunged. Yeah, rub it into your superiors!😂
Need to be able to turn off
Why? So you can kill people?
Sonthe need to be able to stop safely going 62mph. Not only is that a really arbitrary number, it's not high enough since interstate highway speeds can be as high as 80mph (though usually only 70 or 75).
Never seen a highway that high, 60 is the norm
@@Qualicabyss Depends on the area, my area has up to 70-75 mph speed limits, and I have gone through areas in the Great Plains region where it can get up to 80 mph. Less risk when the closest building is 10 miles away.
62mph (or 100 km/h) is not an arbitrary. According to the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards; Automatic Emergency Braking Systems for Light Vehicles it was picked because: "About 60 percent of fatal crashes were on roads with a speed limit of 60 mph (97 km/h) or lower. That number is 73 percent for injury crashes and 78 percent for property-damage-only crashes."
@@Qualicabyss I've seen an 80 in Eastern Oregon.
I-5 has long stretches of 70
@@chaosXP3RT nice job not explaining how it isn't arbitrary
Why is the bulletin board like this character entire lore😂
This is just gonna make cars cost more and more
I was wondering why he hadn't mentioned that he had to use the bulletin board, because he expensed it😂
Buy your cars now because they're going to be really expensive later used cars will be in high demand in 2029
"where we're going we do need boards"
"Good I can expense it"
The bulletin board is a whole character now.
A 1985 car has to comply with the rules that existed back in 1985. Even if it skipped from 1985 to 2015.
I'm so done with modern cars. If you can't drive without crashing, you don't deserve a license. That's what the test is for. F the sensors. >:(
All of these make drivers worse tbh, but it’s not the innovations fault, it’s us becoming dependent on them
honestly most drivers are so bad already that I don't think this can hurt. I've had a friend or two whine about their kicking in, I can say from experience that even if it didn't prevent an actual accident, both of them DEFINITELY brake way too late with frequency.
If this was true no one would’ve gotten in a car accident back when the innovations didn’t exist.
@@BirdPeopleArentRealno, it doesn't neccesarily work that way. Drivers could go from 1 in 100k driver getting into accidents to 3 in 100k getting into accidents. The point is, you do not have to start from zero to say something is getting worse.
But we should become dependent on them, not right now, but ultimately you'd think the ideal world would be fully automated driving. Look, automated features are no substitute for defensive driving. The problem is really poor traffic law enforcement, and really poor driver's education, and on top of that, congested and outdated roads and not enough public transit.
@@samc9133an ideal world would scrap the need for most people to drive cars at all in favor of robust public infrastructure... but obviously we in the US aren't doing that anytime soon.
Great, now I gotta subscribe to see if the bulletin board breaks in 2029🙄
I see no possible way in which a car that can slam on its own brakes could possibly get anyone hurt.
This is either going to be awful or one of the best things coming to road safety in quite some time. The three-second distance rule is almost entirely ignored around here (In many cases it's treated at a 1sec rule!), and it doesn't matter if you follow it, because others will see a lane fit to jump into and try to pass someone.
It's terrible because AEB systems are nowhere near mature enough to be made mandatory in all vehicles by 2029. They have far too many false positives (activate when they shouldn't) and false negatives (don't activate when they should). I was in a crash because a Nissan on the highway ahead of me at 50 MPH suddenly activated its AEB on a false positive. It was a good 5 car lengths ahead of me, but seeing the sudden screech and smoke from their tires delayed my reaction as I was trying to process what happened and how to respond
Who dares to question one of the most iconic time machines
This "feature" has caused deadly accidents.
Requiring it is ungodly stupidity.
I dont want a car braking for me.
I would 100% deactivate that feature.
Noo! Bulletin board-chan!!! Whyyyy!!!
I'm a simple man, I see the bulletin board I thumbs up.
But they are equipped with a pedal to the left of the accelerator that lets you manually do this job.
Well, those cars will be “grandfathered” in, because imagine all the outrage if everyone had to buy new cars in 2029 so it can have the feature.
That would make the most sense. It'll drive the cost of all cars up, though. Hi fellow woodwind!
And the Delorean gets Grandfathered in.
Oh no! The bulletin board 🥺🪦
The tailgaters are going to love this one😂
In the same law they want to have video and audio monitoring to judge whether or not a driver is impaired. Thus breaking your constitutional rights
Too bad most people weren't exercising personal responsibility, the republic has decided increased regulation is needed. I think if libertarians spent more time encouraging good behavior we'd be better off.
@@Joesolo13if people didn't break the rules the government wouldn't have to be increasingly tyrannical! Great circular logic, good to know you prioritize order over personal freedom and privacy.
@@kievbutcher This is a weird argument considering each and every person who lives in the USA gives up quite a lot of personal freedom in the name of order. So I'm not sure why it's an insult when you do the same. The argument isn't exactly circular - more people break the law, the government tries to do something about it. Whether it's tyrannical, eh, debateable.
There are some stats we have to consider here. We are losing roughly 40,000 people per year to traffic fatalities in the USA (NHTSA 2021.) At a certain point we have to ask ourselves what intrusion is reasonable to prevent tens of thousands of people from dying yearly. Around 30% of those deaths, or 12,000, were related to inebriation (NHTSA 2021 again).
Personally, I would trade an extremely limited amount of personal freedom (just enough automated monitoring to validate I'm not inebriated) to potentially save thousands of people every year. If you wouldn't, that's your call. Whether or not this is unconstitutional is not immediately obvious, it would be decided by the courts, though I do think they may tend to lean towards "strict interpretation" and strike it down.
One consideration would be that people who aren't actually inebriated may be picked up as inebriated. That would suck.
How would it pick up that you’re inebriated?
Weren’t they talking about having a breathalyzer equipped into modern vehicles as a way of starting the engines?
Or just de-incentivise car culture. Making more walkable cities where these accidents are most likely to happen and place speed limits to non-fatal levels to any motor vehicles still necessary in those cities.
That doesn’t line the pockets of politicians, so it going to require a lot of public support.
Cops gonna have a way to stop your car with the press of a button 🙄 thank god i prefer motorcycles over cars
What a great idea, with the best of intentions. What could possibly go wrong.
Yeah, this is absolutely stupid. I’m not saying the addition of automatic brakes in this manner would be a net negative, but I do believe there are too many generalized failures. We need time to refine this technology and truthfully, the government should not be involved in regulating our vehicles legality at all
With that logic, you might as well outlaw seatbelts and airbags
@gabedarrett1301 I mean I don't think airbags was as big of a zinger as you might think.
@@tcs07d translation: "I think I know more than scientists and engineers"
@@gabedarrett1301 quiet cow, I would not trust sensors to brake for me and I wouldn't want my car to randomly stop because some calculator deems it unsafe when stopping could be unsafe also.
Government regulation on passive safety features makes sense to me, i.e.: Seatbelts, airbags, chassis design, etc. But mandates on active safety features is a bit more sketchy to me. There's nothing stopping a car mfr from cheaping out on them, leading to errors, or the units just malfunctioning by themselves. It's a difficult situation
hot take cars should have less safety fetchers, natural selection.
I have sortied the Internet Interdictor to reduce to paste (natural section includes bad takes.)
That's not how natural selection works. You are killing the person that is not making a mistake
Hotter take: if only the driver of the car were affected by their decisions, sure.
Hot take, people should know proper grammar, and spelling, well in advance of a hot take.
But why? @@wolfkin5503
I love the bulletin board running gag!
"I think there's cupholders..." you are funny as hell
You can't even trust auto makers to install thermostats properly in a way they can function safely. Trusting them with putting in something that fully captures control of the vehicle itself isn't something I'm confident in.
My impact alert sensor goes off for shadows, light rain, and gentle snow so I'm just thankful it's not smart enough to commandeer my breaks yet.
I just saw a video of those automatic brakes activating when someone was getting shot at because he tried to drive away on the sidewalk.
Its all fun and games until a dragonfly comes flying at your sensor with a semi 5 meters behind you
I think the bulletin board is my favorite character at this point
First look of back to the Future 4
They better save that board, cause in 2029 im gonna be checking if its still expensed.
Cant wait for a bulletin board revenge arc into a redemption arc
Cars made after 2029 will no longer be able to run over potential attackers or chasing serial killers😂😂😂
My old Mercedes already has these features unless there can be no caveats since those features only work when I’m going forward, if I’m in reverse then anyone or anything I can’t see in my back up camera is as good as squished.
The bulletin board cinematic universe is everything I've ever needed
And we wonder why cars now average 45K.
Because nothing makes driving easier than having less control over the brakes
OMG I've been driving for35 years!
Do it yourself!
Thank God the government is looking out for us by placing more regulations on private industries. Surely, nothing bad will come of this, there surely won't be any backdoors that can be used to harm people.
guys, I'm ok - the car that ran me over was only going _44_ miles per hour
My only problem is is my vehicle randomly hit the brakes while going about 60 at night
Bro imagine he just predicted the future about the board 😂
ngl, this sounds like an awful idea. love being brake checked because a shadow tripped a sensor or because someone rolled coal and the smoke cloud reads as a car or something.
They should mandate hood and headlight height to be lower
I fully expect him to break that bulletin board in 2029.
if you don't trust me to drive my own car why give me a licence?
Thats a mistake. Whats gonna happen if theres a malfunction with the tech? Do you all not remember when they put all their faith in the unsinkable Titanic?
That doesn't sound like it's going to end poorly at all.
my 2017 Subaru has this and it has almost killed me trying to make a left and it thinks I’m going to crash to a telephone Pole and it stops me in the middle of traffic. I’ve almost been tboned at least four times.
A year from now, the bulletin board will be the internet's favorite character.
Its good that it can detect pedestrians, cause at this rate the poors will wont be able to afford a car for much longer. Glad I clawed out of poverty before it became unaffordable.
I actually don't think the DeLorean had cupholders either.
wake up babe new board lore dropped