I remember back in the days of Combat Flight Simulator that I preferred the FW over the ME...though I had no idea of the true significance. Part of it was that the interior of the FW was all posh and leather, so it "felt" premium, and as I remember it seemed pretty easy to fly.
The documents he finds make his content S-tier. There isn’t another military aviation channel that is this original; and I’ve seen them all! Also, love your work in preserving our hero’s’ memories and stories. This is the type of content that needs to be archived in case of a barren, post-Apocalyptic wasteland
Historical notes - with the graphic presented around 8 minutes, I apparently was listing the armament for the E-1 I believe, but I show one of the later E models with two cannons. Also, I perhaps overstated the desperation Luftwaffe's position in the summer of 1941 - the Luftwaffe was not so much "On it's heels" - but rather, were beginning to take more losses (August of 1941 saw 40 pilots lost, more than any other month in the war). I meant instead, that the situation was not improving and that the Spitfire Mk V was now at least as good as the new F model 109 that was arriving to the front. Hope this clears things up! Thanks for understanding and watching everyone :) Doing my best.
@TJ3 we know, keeping such a quality level in video makiing is not an easy work at all! That's my point: when i watch a video channel whose contents are usually not that good, i watch it, or not, and pass by but, if the channel in question is High end, i get finicky. So, pradoxically, a very good channel attracts much more my critics than a weak one. That's all. Haters are the among the lowest life form on this planet, i'm not one of them.
I love your story telling and what you cover and have you ever done books or radio this is meant to be a compliment your voice reminds me of Casey kasem and could you please cover something on Yugoslavia and maybe some of the WW2 submarine stuff
Thanks for your work. The main reason for the Luftwaffe's defensive stance in the Channel zone was that 12 of the original 14 fighter wings of the Battle of Britain era had to be transfered to the eastern front for the subsequent Operation Barbarossa. In 1941, the Luftwaffe had to defend conquered France with only two fighterwings, the JG2 Richthofen and the JG26 Schlageter, against the entire Royal Air Force, a numerically overwhelming superior force.
Sounds more like an excuse which many are use to hearing. The reason why a predicament like this occurs is because pre-war production numbers and the poorest ever logistics. Remember the high commands choice to spread themselves out and also so much for increments. By the way hears some more facts knowing Germany never had enough manpower from the start. By 41 many wanted a cease fire and or a new regime. Talks already underway with people from Switzerland and England one of them Himmler. By the way as time progressed the plane in question going against upgraded Spitfire's and other was put back in it's place. Wow spread thin he says. Not your decision or mine so if you can't run with the big dogs, don't get off the porch. No matter how you excuse and downplaying the end Germany loses evident in 41. Would a, could of, should of right? No rain checks.
I can tell a ridiculous amount of work went into this one, kudos to you TJ (and to sparky). I think you may have out done yourself with this one. keep up the great work, and Stay Awesome!
While I'm almost entirely interested in air actions in the Pacific, this has been an absolutely engrossing video for me. An excellent production in every possible way !
I think there was a similar story where the pilot of a BF 110 landed in Britain. To the delight of the RAF it was equipped with a few technically advanced gizmos which enabled the British to introduce countermeasures. I seem to remember it had radar and upward -firing cannon.
Faber defected. He wasn't a "clerk", he was the Adjudant. There is no way an experienced pilot woud have been lost in daylight. He had a compass and even a student pilot knows the sun sets in the west.
Clerk? Faber was the Adjudant and experienced pilot. He wasn't lost. He had a compass and the weather was clear. Even a student pilot knows that the sun sets in the west to get his bearings. Faber defied orders, crossed the channel, then Devon, the Bristol Sea, skirted the heavily defended munitions plant near Swansea/ RAF Fairwood Common to defect at a non-busy airfield. Defection.
They didn't call it the Butcher Bird for nothing! It's the plane that shot my father's B-17 out of the sky in 1944. Thankfully, he survived, and when he did speak of his experience, which was rare, he gave it grudging respect.
Was your father the pilot of the Forest or a gunner. My father in law was a Hurricane and Spitfire pilot of the Battle of Britain and later on in the war till 1943-44 and my father was in the RAF and served as navigator and met officer weather man in Bomber command in Wellington's and served in Exeter, the Middle East in Egypt and the Far East in India till later 1947 and the independence of India.
Very well done, explaining the 190s transitions from fighter to bomber interceptor to its issues with high altitude escort fighters, especially the P-51.
11:00 brought back memories of a copy of the Philly Inquirer covering VJ Day which I bought from the USS Midway Museum and the Honolulu Star-Bulletin covering Dec 7 which I got at a gift shop at Pearl Harbor many many years ago. Anyways for anyone wondering the top scoring FW 190 ace was Otto Kittel who scored 267 victories (all against the Soviet Air Force) making him the fourth highest scoring ace in history. He was also the most successful ace to be KIA. Also despite its renown as a fighter it's easy to forget that it was also well regarded for its ground attack capabilities. In fact the FW-190 F8 was an exclusive ground attack variant that largely replaced the Stuka by war's end.
It's a serious shame that not even once was the Spitfire Mk.IX mentioned in this video. The video opened with the question, "Could the Allies find an answer for this new, deadly aircraft?", and the answer was not even there.
The IX had an improved climb rate which helped in hit and run attacks on non aware non turning targets, but that was about it. Unlike what most think, the IX turn radius (or the Vs) was overmatched by both German types in prolonged low speed turns below 240 mph. Radius was more important than rate of turn, as it allowed long target times, unlike hit and run which required point-blank fire for overtaking speed to work. Johnny Johnson (top Spitfire ace) Pierre Clostermann, US 8th AF pilots all opined the FW-190A made tighter low speed turns when it lowered power and deployed its flaps to a take off position. Eric Brown completely misrepresented the type...
Hi TJ3. I am TJJ7 (7th sibling of 9). I've studied WWII history my whole life. Mostly air arms of the participants. Your videos are very informative and I love the video narratives that illustrate your stories . Very well done and historically accurate information as well. Keep up the good work. Nice to see you younger guys are showing interest in military history and produce shows like this. Thank you, Tj
This was great. I learned some new facts. Indeed, the 190 had its best days on the Eastern Front, where dog fighting mainly occurred at low altitudes. Its durability and heavy armament made it excellent in the ground support role and a feared tank killer.
@@icosthop9998 @ during the initial surprise Barbarosa campaign, the soviets quickly lost most of their aircraft, but yes, aircraft quality was certainly questionable until late 1943. Keep in mind that the effort to support the Soviets with materiel, factory machinery, steel, aluminum, copper...etc... took a while to see dividends. They had competent engineers though. It was the Soviets who improved the stability issue with the P-63 in their wind tunnel. Their swirl throttle was also advanced. I wouldn't believe the Soviet victory claims , especially since they received a monetary reward for each one.
Once the P-47's arrived in England, the ME-109's and Focke Wulf 190's were at a disadvantage in speed, altitude, armament, the ability to take punishment, maneuverability and firepower. There were several dogfights where the ability to take punishment saved the lives of many green P-47 pilots who later on, realizing the P-47's ability to take a lot of damage, became "aces" - scoring more than 5 victories over the Germans. 🤠
This is a great exposition of the history of the 190. The 20:21 comment that the capture of a 190 ‘could not have happened at a better time’ was filler dialogue, as a year earlier would have been an even better time 😏
The FW-190 had the best roll rate and an automatic engine power control system, and these were both big advantages. Luckily for the allies the engine did not make enough power at high altitude where the bombers were, and this problem was not so easily fixed.
In my opinion the problem in the FW190A's engine (the BMW 801) was the super charger, only with two speed, single stage, that engine was mosly designed for low to medium altitudes, maybe if that engine had the same or similar super charger than the DB 600 series had (the variable speed, single stage supercharger), the high alttudes problem might had been solved, that is what I believe
@ But only after 1944, the problem was that the RLM didn't allow BMW to develop a two stage super charger until was to late (the 801 F was meant to be a 2400 Hp engine with a two stage super charger but was halted becouse the war ended)
Great video but I don’t think you mentioned the real genius of the FW190, how the radial engine on the 190 was actually more aerodynamic than the spitfire. They used a fan in front of the engine that turned about three times as fast as the prop. Brillant design! This was one of the secrets to the amazing performance of the 190.
Thank you for this insightful document on what, for me, is the most beautiful fighter of the entire war. Poor Armin. I hope he got to understand that his mistake was actually his escape from an evil force.
You forgot to mention, when the Spitfire V was outclassed in 1942, a new spitfire with a more powerful engine and a two stage supercharger was developed, which became the Spitfire IX. The Spitfire IX would outperform the FW-190, as it was now able to catch up to it and the Focke's main advantage was gone. The Spitfire IX was considered by many to be the best of the war, although Tempest and Spitfire XIV were more powerful, Spitfire IX was the "nicest to fly" and was easily as good as late war P-51D and FW-190F/D. Just for comparison, Spitfire V had a top speed of 370MPH, and could turn 360 degrees in 17 seconds. FW-190 could reach 410MPH and turn 360 degrees in 23 seconds. Spitfire IX could reach 420MPH and turn 360 degrees in 17.5 seconds, as well as out climbing and outliving both.
@@drewschumann1 short range was anways a spitfire thing, they are interceptors not all round fighters like FW-190. FW-190 could carry bombs, but in practice it wasn’t a very good bomber, the Luftwaffe had to keep planes like the Stuka flying for this reason. Ground handling I recall wasn’t really an issue for earlier spitfires, when they got the griffon engines then you had torque related issues. Even on earlier spitfires, 15 percent of thrust came from the exhaust alone, it was a very powerful engine. Spitfires would continue to see service well into the 1950s, despite Britain being ahead of other countries with jet technology
Faber actually landed in Wales, at Pembrey, about two miles or so from where I live. There's a photo of his 190 on the wall of a local pub named The Ship Aground. My dad, {bombarier, later a pilot} born in Southmpton, England was based at Pembrey for a time and met my mother in Burry Port, where I live to this day.
Excellent video however you forgot to mention that the mark VIII and mark IX Spitfires could take on and better the FW190. Then later mark Spitfires could take on the later marks of the FW190. Keep em coming really enjoying your videos. Sam Perth Western Australia
Butcher bird.... back in the days I flew warbirds by ICI in the 90's, one thing we all learn is to never go head on against FW190, unless one has a death wish.
A decent piece, as always from TJ, however I should point out that the British airfield where Armin Faber landed his FW-190 was not located in southern England, it was in fact located in south Wales (Britain != England, when will people learn..). The airfield was RAF Pembrey, located between Carmarthen and Llanelli, incidentally the same airfield that 92 squadron (Brian Kingcome, Bob Stanford Tuck, Geoffrey Wellum, etc) had previously operated from during a period of the Battle of Britain. I feel particularly connected to this small but important piece of history as I hail from the area.
I had a water colour print of that 190 by Terry Nutkins and signed by Armin Faber. Left it in a London flat around 1995 when I had to move in 5 mins, I'm not explaining why, but shit happens.
@@jonathansteadman7935 That's a hell of a thing to lose--would be worth a MINT today! But here you are commenting on a YT channel, so apparently you managed to make the best of your difficult years--yay!
During 1942 the the low German attacks on English towns in daylight by Me 109's and FW 190's was creating a huge embassment for the country as well as the RAF. With the capture of the 190 and thorough testing of its performance envelope Farnborough arranged a low level race between the 190 and a Typhoon. Supermarines test pilot Jeffrey Quill who had test flown the 190 asked if he could participate in the race with a Spitfire . After great guwaff's of laughter , he got the OK . Come the day , the Typhoon took the lead with the 190 falling back , Then the Spitfire surged ahead to win the race . It was the prototype Mk XII with a Griffon engine .
The bulk of RAF losses over France came from using an interceptor aircraft for ground attack (the ridiculous rhubarb sorties) right down where the the 190 could pounce.
Thanks for a great video. The evolution of the "Butcher Bird" is fascinating to me (I've got 1/32 scale model kits of an A-4 and TA152H-1...just need a 190D-9). The FW 190D-9 is one of the most pleasing airframes of WW2.
Just to clarify/nitpick.The engine wasn't designed for low to mid altitude combat. It's force induction system was optimized for that particular scenario.
In early 1944 the U.S. Army Air Force’s daylight bombing plan over Europe was changed. The new commander of the 8h Air Force, General Jimmy Doolittle, was a significant influence on and innovator of a new, bold, "bombers as bait" strategy. The plan was that U.S.A.A.F. escort fighters, primarily P-47s, and P-51s carrying long-range enabling droppable fuel tanks, rather than stick close to the bombers to protect them as they had before, would now fly ahead of the bomber formations in what was called a “fighter sweep”, aggressively seeking and engaging the Nazi interceptors before the bombers reached their targets. Understanding that the Luftwaffe would not fail to put up a maximum effort to destroy the incoming bombers, Doolittle used vast bomber formations as bait to lure the Luftwaffe interceptors to come up after them, whereupon the now freed U.S.A.A.F. “escort” fighters would engage and destroy as many of the Nazi aircraft as possible, diminishing the Luftwaffe to the point of ineffectiveness before the planned invasion of northern France at Normandy beach. This was a key element in achieving air superiority over Europe by June 1944, enabling the successful invasion that led to the Allies’ victory in Western Europe.
you refer to Op Pointblank, ie to neutralize the LW prior to DDay. Arnold gave manufacturers an ultimatum to have long range escorts deployed by Jan 1944. Replublic repeatedly failed to redesign the P-47 with more internal fuel in previous years, while NAA and Lockheed complied and were ready in early 1944. The P-47 at that time could not escort deep into germany, but took the second leg of the escort relay from Amsterdam/Antwerp areas to just inside the german border. the P-47D-25 with more internal fuel didn't arrive until mid-late 1944. Even then, it never escorted as far as Berlin. DDay was successful due to the P-51B escorting bombers and attacking airfields deep into germany.
@@bobsakamanos4469 Actually, what I am referring to is the marked change of strategy that took place when General Eisenhower ordered General Doolittle to take command of the 8th Air Force in January 1944 and to shake things up there owing to the tragic failures of the previous year, specifically the two disastrous Schweinfurt ball bearing bombings. The first “bombers as bait” missions took place during the week of Feb. 20-25, 1944, in what became known as “Big Week” wherein the 8th Air Force, the RAF, and the 15th Air Force, based in southern Italy, conducted coordinated, strategic bombing raids against German aircraft factories, and other strategic industrial targets. These raids, called “Operation Argument”, had two purposes. The obvious one was to hit as many of these strategic targets as possible, and the second, understandably less publicised, but even more crucial, was to bring the Luftwaffe up in large numbers to defend targets that had been selected not to avoid, but to engage Luftwaffe interceptors which the now long-ranging escort fighters would destroy. With “Big Week”, the mass strategic bombing of Germany that had been halted in October 1943 resumed, marking the beginning of the end of the Luftwaffe. By the end of “Big Week”, the combined Allied air forces had flown over 6,000 sorties, had lost 357 bombers, and 28 escort fighters. More than 2,000 airmen were killed or captured. The Luftwaffe lost 262 fighters and 250 airmen killed or wounded, including over 100 pilots. While these bombings set the Nazi aircraft production industry back by two months, “Big Week” took a heavy toll directly on the Luftwaffe from which it never recovered.
Over the following months, while the number of the LW’s aircraft assets and fighter pilots steadily decreased, the Allied air forces aircraft and well-trained pilots steadily increased. Owing to the LW’s longtime and now crucially fatal failure to institute an advanced pilot training programme, it could not adequately replace its rising losses of experienced and talented pilots, while the Allies, having an extensive and rigourous advanced pilot training programme, maintained and increased its roll of high-time pilots.
@@bobsakamanos4469 Not exactly. I refer specifically to Operation Argument, also known as "Big Week", 20-25 February 1944, as well as the bombing raids that followed during which long-ranging, drop tank carrying Allied "escort" fighters were, for the first time, set free to fly ahead of the bombers in "fighter sweeps", seeking, attacking and destroying any Luftwaffe aircraft sent up to attack the bombers. While the bombers' mission was to hit and destroy strategic Nazi aviation industry targets, which they did to a good degree, they were also, perhaps primarily, there to serve as bait to lure the Luftwaffe up to shoot them down. Accordingly, missions were planned not to avoid, but to attract Luftwaffe interceptors. All of this was, by all accounts, very effective,. As planned, the Luftwaffe's assets were, destroyed to the extent that by June 6, 1944, it had become ineffective as a deterrent strike force.
@ I'm not contesting that, but rather the fact that the Jug was not able to penetrate on escort missions deep into germany until much after DDay. Even then it couldn't reach Berlin, while the P-51 was going into Poland and Czech. The Bombers as Bait strategy was the 1940 RAF invention when they were using Circus and Ramrod sorties to lure up the LW fighters.
@@bobsakamanos4469 The RAF may have adopted the "bait" idea in a limited way in1940, but the Allies did not adopt it as an overall strategy until early1944. Before that, the largely unescorted daylight bombing programme was, predictably, a debacle, and a tragic waste of lives and material. The P-47 was what it was. Not all aircraft can be of equal value in all things. There were some things that it could not do as well as the P-51 and some that it could do better, and there were some things that the P-51 could not do as well as the P-47, and some that it could do better. Every aircraft has its strengths and weaknesses. In any event, both of these aircraft greatly contributed to the victory over the Nazis.
A New TJ3 Video is Always a great way to kick off the weekend and as usual you knocked it out of the park. A awesome video on the Butcher Bird one of my favorite aircraft. Kurt Tank made so amazing German aircraft he even made the German version of the "Wooden Wonder" aka British DE Havilland DH.98 Mosquito. The TA154 Night Fighter was a beautiful aircraft that appeared to late to see any combat action. It also never solved the glue issue before wars end. Kurt Tanks planes are some coolest looking planes in the Luftwaffe. The FW 200 Condor is my favorite out of all his aircraft designs. As always TJ you somehow managed to top yourself AGAIN. Your videos keep getting better and better. I'm already Looking forward to seeing your next video. Thanks for all your hard work and research. Have a great Weekend and stay warm it's been pretty cold here so I know it must be really cold on the mainland. Please Keep 'em Flyin.
Perfectly true that the MK V Spitfire was not as capable as the 190 - an older model playing against the newest hot shot on the block hardly ever is, but you make the assumption that it was only the arrival of the American aircraft that could better the 190, when in actual fact the Spitfire MK IX (MK9) which had been specifically engineered to take on the 190 head to head after Fabers foolish delivery of the type to Pembury. and had been downing them one on one for twelve months before the US 8th Army Airforce even deployed to Britain, which in part urged Tank to come up with the Dora 9 then the 152 which in turn brought about the MK XII and MK XIV series Griffon engined Spitfires.
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The P47 really had the ability to choose when and how to engage...And any enemy pilot who dived to get away found out the hard way that the P47 was unbeatable in a dive. A pity they didn't fit auxiliary tanks on her earlier...
I seem to remember Supermarine upscaled the Spitfire in its next variant, improved engine and clipped wings to improve low level capabilities to deal with the FW190.
The Bf-109F (Friedrick) series was equally qood as any Spitfire Mk.V, some parameters even better. Imagine if the the Series 5 Italian fighters (the DB605 engined ones) would made in large scale (Fiat G.55, Macchi C.205, Reggiane Re.2005). The Allied would have much headache than.
That adjutant who handed over his 190 to the British probably had the most shameful existence in Luftwaffe history. And I’m thrilled to see the Dora, my favorite plane of the ETO.
I know, that its not conected to the topic, but is video in the background from IL-2: Great Battles? also, great video! Ill definitly subscribe to you!
Hello, TJ3 I hope you are doing well. On December 31st last year I was at the National Air And Space Museum in Virginia and there is a Martin B-26B-25-MA Marauder called Flak-Bait that happens to survive over 200 combat mission in Europe. If you like to, I would like to see you do a video about the full history of this plane. If not that's okay. No hard feelings. I just wanna share to you that I discovered something that really caught my interest. with all honestly I do think will be cool if you do a video about this B-26B-25-MA Marauder.
My own opinion is that the Fw-190 was indeed great, but overrated. A lot of the "Focke Wulf Panic" of 1941/42 was that the RAF was going on the offensive for the first time in a big way and facing some of the same problems Germany did during the BoB. Losses were mounting and, yes a scary new type of German plane was something to think about, but a lot of those losses were from 109s. Personally I think the 109F was just as revolutionary, just as dangerous a new innovation - but it's the scary new fighter that loomed in peoples' consciousness. Once the RAF learned how to fight the Fw-190, they got the upper hand over it and kept it, particularly with the Spitfire IX being designed specifically to kill it.
@@hanswolfgangmercer let’s be honest the RAF never got the upper hand over 190s with the Spitfire Vs .. the 190 ate it alive again & again. The Spitfire IX (& Typhoons) arriving in numbers when the Luftwaffe had a smaller force as it was spread over several fronts had a much bigger impact. The Mediterranean, Eastern front & home defense sucked in resources and the Luftwaffe plan to contest air superiority with a smaller force of more technical aircraft was doomed to fail. Also without hating how was the Bf-109F innovative? It was an evolution of the Emile with improved aerodynamics. Contrast this with the fw190 was one of the first high performance radial fighters, preceding the P-47 & Corsair and extensive use of electrical systems, hi vis canopy and heavy armament.
The 109F was a near total redesign of the entire airframe, replacing or moving just about everything, and it was a massive boost in performance. It's a more radical evolution than any of the 190's upgrades until the D-9. I'm also not saying the 190 wasn't a good aircraft, it definitely was, but people make it out to be this unstoppable superweapon when it was just a fairly decent fighter. It based everything in its playbook on high speed performance but it was not that long at all before allied aircraft got just as fast. As soon as the IXs, Typhoons and later P-51s showed up those kill ratios started to reverse really dramatically.
@ I don’t disagree with most of what you have said. but I think it’s hyperbole to claim the evolved Bf-109F which is far closer structurally to the prior 109E than you seem to understand was as revolutionary as the Fw-190, a new aircraft with differences t from those that came before including engine installation, cockpit ergonomics, electrical systems, automated & intergrated engine/propellor controls and wing configuration (small, big aerilons) to be copied or influence the development of many aircraft including the tempest & bearcat. I’m not claiming the 190 was a unique super fighter, in fact in my post I pointed out it was more contemporaneous & comparable with 109Fs & Gs than the video gives the impression of. but while the 109 was revolutionary in 1935 up to 1938/9 with the E with cannon & direct fuel injection engine by 1941 is wasn’t as other contemporaneous aircraft had caught up, especially the contemporaneous spitfire in context. While the 190 shook that from its introduction.
Classic example of lateral thinking that paid off. Re imagined by Hawker in the Tempest 2 and subsequent Fury/Sea Fury series. A Royal Navy Sea Fury shot down a Mig jet in the Korean War.
Unlike the Mf Me 109 the Fw 190 had a wide based wheel undercarriage like the Hurricane and therefore the 190 could like the Hurricane land on a hard service and not buckle in a crash Landing in airfield as would a 109 and a Spitfire and the bladed propeller Hurricane was considered to be just as good or slightly better than the Spitfire like the 190.
The new Spitfire Mk. V (“Mark five”) had her late 1941 combat debut on the same day the Luftwaffe introduced the Fw 190. The superiority of the Fw 190 shook the RAF to its core as their “new” fighter was second best the day she was introduced. The Air Ministry took immediate steps to remedy the situation, introducing an experimental engine, the Rolls Royce Merlin Mk. 61. The two-stage supercharged engine had to be in front-line fighters as soon as possible. This program was so important that both Supermarine (the aircraft builder), and Rolls Royce were tasked to convert 50 of the new air-frames (Mk. Vb and Vc) to the interim Mk. IX standard. The immediate need for one hundred Mk. IX Spitfires was of the greatest importance. Painstakingly the larger, wider and different back end of the Merlin 61 engine was shoehorned into a new mount that would hold the fury of almost 1,600 horsepower. Ancillary systems were removed, modified or replaced and then refitted by hand. Radiators, coolers, lines and fittings all had to be replaced with larger parts to allow the full measure of the Merlin 61 to be unleashed. It must have been a thrilling time for those aircraftsmen working in secret on this new and improved Spitfire.
Both the 109 and Spitfire were limited by their designs. Both were limited in role, difficult to manufacture, short ranged, and had horrible ground handling characteristics. Both went through multiple improvements but outside of point defense, they needed something better
To be fair the layout of the 109 was very close to that of the 190. Usually German cockpits were quite easy for the pilots. The British ones were 50/50 while the US and God forbid the russian cockpits were terrible to look at and go through. The one massive advantage the 190 had was the automated systems. Something similar appeared in later G variants of the 109 but not on the same level as the 190.
It sounds like the Germans had some inspiration from the Republic P47 Thunderbolt. 1) Large, powerful radial engine. 2) Powerful armament. 3) Robust and sturdy build. 4) Capable of taking a lot of damage. 5) Two-speed Supercharger. 6) Late stage development of WEP. 🧐🤨
Fw 190 for British pilots was a bad surprise because they preffered to run instead of fight. Soviet pilots did not afraid 190 because they preffered to fight instead of run and they knew that 190 not so maneuverableas as 109 .
The visual appearance of the FW 190 just screams deadly predator. Such a purposeful, lean, visceral design.
Add to your description "Beautiful" and I will totally agree with you. Especially the long, thin wings of the final variant. Beautifully Deadly!
for me the ones with radial engines look funny) but the ones with long noses are beautiful!
I remember back in the days of Combat Flight Simulator that I preferred the FW over the ME...though I had no idea of the true significance. Part of it was that the interior of the FW was all posh and leather, so it "felt" premium, and as I remember it seemed pretty easy to fly.
The documents he finds make his content S-tier. There isn’t another military aviation channel that is this original; and I’ve seen them all! Also, love your work in preserving our hero’s’ memories and stories. This is the type of content that needs to be archived in case of a barren, post-Apocalyptic wasteland
Historical notes - with the graphic presented around 8 minutes, I apparently was listing the armament for the E-1 I believe, but I show one of the later E models with two cannons. Also, I perhaps overstated the desperation Luftwaffe's position in the summer of 1941 - the Luftwaffe was not so much "On it's heels" - but rather, were beginning to take more losses (August of 1941 saw 40 pilots lost, more than any other month in the war). I meant instead, that the situation was not improving and that the Spitfire Mk V was now at least as good as the new F model 109 that was arriving to the front. Hope this clears things up! Thanks for understanding and watching everyone :) Doing my best.
I am very happy to be on board your channel 👌 🫡
Terrific as always !!
That the fw 190 is the Nazis Secret weapon
@TJ3 we know, keeping such a quality level in video makiing is not an easy work at all! That's my point: when i watch a video channel whose contents are usually not that good, i watch it, or not, and pass by but, if the channel in question is High end, i get finicky. So, pradoxically, a very good channel attracts much more my critics than a weak one. That's all. Haters are the among the lowest life form on this planet, i'm not one of them.
I love your story telling and what you cover and have you ever done books or radio this is meant to be a compliment your voice reminds me of Casey kasem and could you please cover something on Yugoslavia and maybe some of the WW2 submarine stuff
Thanks for your work. The main reason for the Luftwaffe's defensive stance in the Channel zone was that 12 of the original 14 fighter wings of the Battle of Britain era had to be transfered to the eastern front for the subsequent Operation Barbarossa. In 1941, the Luftwaffe had to defend conquered France with only two fighterwings, the JG2 Richthofen and the JG26 Schlageter, against the entire Royal Air Force, a numerically overwhelming superior force.
The LW was also thinned out by sending its aircraft to Sicily (against Malta) and North Africa in 1941.
Sounds more like an excuse which many are use to hearing. The reason why a predicament like this occurs is because pre-war production numbers and the poorest ever logistics. Remember the high commands choice to spread themselves out and also so much for increments. By the way hears some more facts knowing Germany never had enough manpower from the start. By 41 many wanted a cease fire and or a new regime. Talks already underway with people from Switzerland and England one of them Himmler. By the way as time progressed the plane in question going against upgraded Spitfire's and other was put back in it's place. Wow spread thin he says. Not your decision or mine so if you can't run with the big dogs, don't get off the porch. No matter how you excuse and downplaying the end Germany loses evident in 41. Would a, could of, should of right? No rain checks.
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I can tell a ridiculous amount of work went into this one, kudos to you TJ (and to sparky). I think you may have out done yourself with this one. keep up the great work, and Stay Awesome!
Thanks Jester!!
@@TJ3 Why're you depicting the #RAF flying in the three-plane #VicFormation, instead of the #Schwärme/#FingerFour...?
While I'm almost entirely interested in air actions in the Pacific, this has been an absolutely engrossing video for me. An excellent production in every possible way !
That clerk must have been beyond embarrassed when he landed at that field and was greeted with "Cheerio, mate!"
I think there was a similar story where the pilot of a BF 110 landed in Britain. To the delight of the RAF it was equipped with a few technically advanced gizmos which enabled the British to introduce countermeasures. I seem to remember it had radar and upward -firing cannon.
Faber defected. He wasn't a "clerk", he was the Adjudant. There is no way an experienced pilot woud have been lost in daylight. He had a compass and even a student pilot knows the sun sets in the west.
Clerk? Faber was the Adjudant and experienced pilot. He wasn't lost. He had a compass and the weather was clear. Even a student pilot knows that the sun sets in the west to get his bearings. Faber defied orders, crossed the channel, then Devon, the Bristol Sea, skirted the heavily defended munitions plant near Swansea/ RAF Fairwood Common to defect at a non-busy airfield. Defection.
They didn't call it the Butcher Bird for nothing! It's the plane that shot my father's B-17 out of the sky in 1944. Thankfully, he survived, and when he did speak of his experience, which was rare, he gave it grudging respect.
Was your father the pilot of the Forest or a gunner. My father in law was a Hurricane and Spitfire pilot of the Battle of Britain and later on in the war till 1943-44 and my father was in the RAF and served as navigator and met officer weather man in Bomber command in Wellington's and served in Exeter, the Middle East in Egypt and the Far East in India till later 1947 and the independence of India.
Very well done, explaining the 190s transitions from fighter to bomber interceptor to its issues with high altitude escort fighters, especially the P-51.
11:00 brought back memories of a copy of the Philly Inquirer covering VJ Day which I bought from the USS Midway Museum and the Honolulu Star-Bulletin covering Dec 7 which I got at a gift shop at Pearl Harbor many many years ago.
Anyways for anyone wondering the top scoring FW 190 ace was Otto Kittel who scored 267 victories (all against the Soviet Air Force) making him the fourth highest scoring ace in history. He was also the most successful ace to be KIA. Also despite its renown as a fighter it's easy to forget that it was also well regarded for its ground attack capabilities. In fact the FW-190 F8 was an exclusive ground attack variant that largely replaced the Stuka by war's end.
Remember the old show “Hogans Heroes” that guy that handed the 190 over to England had to be about like Schultz from the show!
Give that man some wiener schnitzel!! 🙂
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It's a serious shame that not even once was the Spitfire Mk.IX mentioned in this video.
The video opened with the question, "Could the Allies find an answer for this new, deadly aircraft?", and the answer was not even there.
The IX had an improved climb rate which helped in hit and run attacks on non aware non turning targets, but that was about it. Unlike what most think, the IX turn radius (or the Vs) was overmatched by both German types in prolonged low speed turns below 240 mph. Radius was more important than rate of turn, as it allowed long target times, unlike hit and run which required point-blank fire for overtaking speed to work. Johnny Johnson (top Spitfire ace) Pierre Clostermann, US 8th AF pilots all opined the FW-190A made tighter low speed turns when it lowered power and deployed its flaps to a take off position. Eric Brown completely misrepresented the type...
It was Douglas Bader saying the Mk lX 'reigned supreme for the rest of the war' that gave it such a reputation.
@@jonathansteadman7935 Good substantive reply, which is rare. Thank you.
Hi TJ3. I am TJJ7 (7th sibling of 9). I've studied WWII history my whole life. Mostly air arms of the participants.
Your videos are very informative and I love the video narratives that illustrate your stories . Very well done and historically accurate information as well. Keep up the good work. Nice to see you younger guys are showing interest in military history and produce shows like this.
Thank you,
Tj
You said it better than I.
This was great. I learned some new facts. Indeed, the 190 had its best days on the Eastern Front, where dog fighting mainly occurred at low altitudes. Its durability and heavy armament made it excellent in the ground support role and a feared tank killer.
The Soviet tanks were vulnerable from the rear. Even Me109s flew low level strikes against them from behind.
I also think the Soviet planes and their pilot's were inferior to German pilots and German aircraft.
@@icosthop9998 @ during the initial surprise Barbarosa campaign, the soviets quickly lost most of their aircraft, but yes, aircraft quality was certainly questionable until late 1943. Keep in mind that the effort to support the Soviets with materiel, factory machinery, steel, aluminum, copper...etc... took a while to see dividends.
They had competent engineers though. It was the Soviets who improved the stability issue with the P-63 in their wind tunnel. Their swirl throttle was also advanced.
I wouldn't believe the Soviet victory claims , especially since they received a monetary reward for each one.
@@icosthop9998The Russians loved our P39’s Airacobras which were quite effective.
@BobSakamanos4469 TY 👍
Also the BF 109 F Model replaced the E 1941.
That also was a factor not just the FW 190.
Once the P-47's arrived in England, the ME-109's and Focke Wulf 190's were at a disadvantage in speed, altitude, armament, the ability to take punishment, maneuverability and firepower. There were several dogfights where the ability to take punishment saved the lives of many green P-47 pilots who later on, realizing the P-47's ability to take a lot of damage, became "aces" - scoring more than 5 victories over the Germans. 🤠
This is a great exposition of the history of the 190.
The 20:21 comment that the capture of a 190 ‘could not have happened at a better time’ was filler dialogue, as a year earlier would have been an even better time 😏
Fair enough haha
I’m sure the Luftwaffa would have disagreed. Well done @TJ3
You should have mentioned that by july 1942 the Spitfire Mk IX was introduced which was at least as good as the contemorary Fw 190s.
That was a simply superb history of that air war. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
The FW-190 had the best roll rate and an automatic engine power control system, and these were both big advantages. Luckily for the allies the engine did not make enough power at high altitude where the bombers were, and this problem was not so easily fixed.
In my opinion the problem in the FW190A's engine (the BMW 801) was the super charger, only with two speed, single stage, that engine was mosly designed for low to medium altitudes, maybe if that engine had the same or similar super charger than the DB 600 series had (the variable speed, single stage supercharger), the high alttudes problem might had been solved, that is what I believe
Sorted with the FW190 D
@ But only after 1944, the problem was that the RLM didn't allow BMW to develop a two stage super charger until was to late (the 801 F was meant to be a 2400 Hp engine with a two stage super charger but was halted becouse the war ended)
I had never heard the story about the "Wrong Way Corrigan"of the Luftwaffe. Epic.
That newspaper article about the introduction of the FW 190 was a very interesting thing to see.
Great video but I don’t think you mentioned the real genius of the FW190, how the radial engine on the 190 was actually more aerodynamic than the spitfire. They used a fan in front of the engine that turned about three times as fast as the prop. Brillant design! This was one of the secrets to the amazing performance of the 190.
Excellent video! Please keep episodes like this coming!
Thank you for this insightful document on what, for me, is the most beautiful fighter of the entire war. Poor Armin. I hope he got to understand that his mistake was actually his escape from an evil force.
BMW 139 was only used in protype BMW 801 was used in Production models up to D9.
You forgot to mention, when the Spitfire V was outclassed in 1942, a new spitfire with a more powerful engine and a two stage supercharger was developed, which became the Spitfire IX. The Spitfire IX would outperform the FW-190, as it was now able to catch up to it and the Focke's main advantage was gone. The Spitfire IX was considered by many to be the best of the war, although Tempest and Spitfire XIV were more powerful, Spitfire IX was the "nicest to fly" and was easily as good as late war P-51D and FW-190F/D.
Just for comparison, Spitfire V had a top speed of 370MPH, and could turn 360 degrees in 17 seconds. FW-190 could reach 410MPH and turn 360 degrees in 23 seconds. Spitfire IX could reach 420MPH and turn 360 degrees in 17.5 seconds, as well as out climbing and outliving both.
Yet it still had all the drawbacks of earlier Spitfires. Short range, limited roles, difficulty to manufacture and nasty ground handling.
@@drewschumann1 short range was anways a spitfire thing, they are interceptors not all round fighters like FW-190. FW-190 could carry bombs, but in practice it wasn’t a very good bomber, the Luftwaffe had to keep planes like the Stuka flying for this reason. Ground handling I recall wasn’t really an issue for earlier spitfires, when they got the griffon engines then you had torque related issues. Even on earlier spitfires, 15 percent of thrust came from the exhaust alone, it was a very powerful engine. Spitfires would continue to see service well into the 1950s, despite Britain being ahead of other countries with jet technology
Beautiful aircraft.
great video the fw 190 is my favourite plane and you did a great job telling its story keep up the good work 😁👍
Faber actually landed in Wales, at Pembrey, about two miles or so from where I live. There's a photo of his 190 on the wall of a local pub named The Ship Aground. My dad, {bombarier, later a pilot} born in Southmpton, England was based at Pembrey for a time and met my mother in Burry Port, where I live to this day.
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Finally lol
Yeah 🤗
The FW190 seems to have been like a "Super powered Zero" in a sense. It was an absolutely genius level design for it's selected role.
Excellent video however you forgot to mention that the mark VIII and mark IX Spitfires could take on and better the FW190. Then later mark Spitfires could take on the later marks of the FW190. Keep em coming really enjoying your videos.
Sam
Perth
Western Australia
Hi TJ, I think this was without a doubt one of your best videos you’ve ever done. I love what you do! ❤
Thank you so much!:D
Most funny about this aircraft, is a dude called Kurt Tank having worked on it. Wrong branch with such name.
Butcher bird.... back in the days I flew warbirds by ICI in the 90's, one thing we all learn is to never go head on against FW190, unless one has a death wish.
A decent piece, as always from TJ, however I should point out that the British airfield where Armin Faber landed his FW-190 was not located in southern England, it was in fact located in south Wales (Britain != England, when will people learn..). The airfield was RAF Pembrey, located between Carmarthen and Llanelli, incidentally the same airfield that 92 squadron (Brian Kingcome, Bob Stanford Tuck, Geoffrey Wellum, etc) had previously operated from during a period of the Battle of Britain. I feel particularly connected to this small but important piece of history as I hail from the area.
@@geraintbevan3954 fair enough! Those distinctions are something I am still learning. Thanks!
I had a water colour print of that 190 by Terry Nutkins and signed by Armin Faber. Left it in a London flat around 1995 when I had to move in 5 mins, I'm not explaining why, but shit happens.
@@jonathansteadman7935 That's a hell of a thing to lose--would be worth a MINT today! But here you are commenting on a YT channel, so apparently you managed to make the best of your difficult years--yay!
The P-47D was America's version of this and was puttin some stank on it. This plane and design turned into into a hail Mary attempt!
The F8F was the American Fw-190
@@Dysfunctional_ReprintAnd the hawker tempest mk ii as well as the sea fury is the British version of this.
@@Dysfunctional_ReprintJust like the Hawker Tempest Mk 2 was the british FW-190
God bless the Brits! They held the line when no one else could. Much love from across the pond!!
they even crossed the line when no one else would!
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Excellent presentation. Thank you very much for creating and posting! Look forward to seeing many more of your creations!
Thank you!
It was nicknamed the “Würger”, meaning “shrike” in English, which the allied pilots called the “Butcher Bird”.
The greatest fighter plane of WWII
During 1942 the the low German attacks on English towns in daylight by Me 109's and FW 190's was creating a huge embassment for the country as well as the RAF.
With the capture of the 190 and thorough testing of its performance envelope Farnborough arranged a low level race between the 190 and a Typhoon.
Supermarines test pilot Jeffrey Quill who had test flown the 190 asked if he could participate in the race with a Spitfire . After great guwaff's of laughter , he got the OK .
Come the day , the Typhoon took the lead with the 190 falling back , Then the Spitfire surged ahead to win the race . It was the prototype Mk XII with a Griffon engine .
The bulk of RAF losses over France came from using an interceptor aircraft for ground attack (the ridiculous rhubarb sorties) right down where the the 190 could pounce.
Great video! Can you please make a video like this about the Yak-3? Its my favourite plane id really appreciate it
Thanks for a great video. The evolution of the "Butcher Bird" is fascinating to me (I've got 1/32 scale model kits of an A-4 and TA152H-1...just need a 190D-9). The FW 190D-9 is one of the most pleasing airframes of WW2.
Good to have such a level of both depth and detail. Thanks, TJ3.
Thank tou!
I enjoyed your video, thanks. I love the letters from ww2 idea. I plan on gifting it to a couple people.
@patrickwelsing3308 thanks so much! Glad to hear it :D
Just to clarify/nitpick.The engine wasn't designed for low to mid altitude combat. It's force induction system was optimized for that particular scenario.
In early 1944 the U.S. Army Air Force’s daylight bombing plan over Europe was changed. The new commander of the 8h Air Force, General Jimmy Doolittle, was a significant influence on and innovator of a new, bold, "bombers as bait" strategy.
The plan was that U.S.A.A.F. escort fighters, primarily P-47s, and P-51s carrying long-range enabling droppable fuel tanks, rather than stick close to the bombers to protect them as they had before, would now fly ahead of the bomber formations in what was called a “fighter sweep”, aggressively seeking and engaging the Nazi interceptors before the bombers reached their targets.
Understanding that the Luftwaffe would not fail to put up a maximum effort to destroy the incoming bombers, Doolittle used vast bomber formations as bait to lure the Luftwaffe interceptors to come up after them, whereupon the now freed U.S.A.A.F. “escort” fighters would engage and destroy as many of the Nazi aircraft as possible, diminishing the Luftwaffe to the point of ineffectiveness before the planned invasion of northern France at Normandy beach.
This was a key element in achieving air superiority over Europe by June 1944, enabling the successful invasion that led to the Allies’ victory in Western Europe.
you refer to Op Pointblank, ie to neutralize the LW prior to DDay. Arnold gave manufacturers an ultimatum to have long range escorts deployed by Jan 1944. Replublic repeatedly failed to redesign the P-47 with more internal fuel in previous years, while NAA and Lockheed complied and were ready in early 1944. The P-47 at that time could not escort deep into germany, but took the second leg of the escort relay from Amsterdam/Antwerp areas to just inside the german border. the P-47D-25 with more internal fuel didn't arrive until mid-late 1944. Even then, it never escorted as far as Berlin.
DDay was successful due to the P-51B escorting bombers and attacking airfields deep into germany.
@@bobsakamanos4469 Actually, what I am referring to is the marked change of strategy that took place when General Eisenhower ordered General Doolittle to take command of the 8th Air Force in January 1944 and to shake things up there owing to the tragic failures of the previous year, specifically the two disastrous Schweinfurt ball bearing bombings.
The first “bombers as bait” missions took place during the week of Feb. 20-25, 1944, in what became known as “Big Week” wherein the 8th Air Force, the RAF, and the 15th Air Force, based in southern Italy, conducted coordinated, strategic bombing raids against German aircraft factories, and other strategic industrial targets.
These raids, called “Operation Argument”, had two purposes. The obvious one was to hit as many of these strategic targets as possible, and the second, understandably less publicised, but even more crucial, was to bring the Luftwaffe up in large numbers to defend targets that had been selected not to avoid, but to engage Luftwaffe interceptors which the now long-ranging escort fighters would destroy.
With “Big Week”, the mass strategic bombing of Germany that had been halted in October 1943 resumed, marking the beginning of the end of the Luftwaffe. By the end of “Big Week”, the combined Allied air forces had flown over 6,000 sorties, had lost 357 bombers, and 28 escort fighters. More than 2,000 airmen were killed or captured. The Luftwaffe lost 262 fighters and 250 airmen killed or wounded, including over 100 pilots.
While these bombings set the Nazi aircraft production industry back by two months, “Big Week” took a heavy toll directly on the Luftwaffe from which it never recovered.
Over the following months, while the number of the LW’s aircraft assets and fighter pilots steadily decreased, the Allied air forces aircraft and well-trained pilots steadily increased. Owing to the LW’s longtime and now crucially fatal failure to institute an advanced pilot training programme, it could not adequately replace its rising losses of experienced and talented pilots, while the Allies, having an extensive and rigourous advanced pilot training programme, maintained and increased its roll of high-time pilots.
@@bobsakamanos4469 Not exactly. I refer specifically to Operation Argument, also known as "Big Week", 20-25 February 1944, as well as the bombing raids that followed during which long-ranging, drop tank carrying Allied "escort" fighters were, for the first time, set free to fly ahead of the bombers in "fighter sweeps", seeking, attacking and destroying any Luftwaffe aircraft sent up to attack the bombers.
While the bombers' mission was to hit and destroy strategic Nazi aviation industry targets, which they did to a good degree, they were also, perhaps primarily, there to serve as bait to lure the Luftwaffe up to shoot them down. Accordingly, missions were planned not to avoid, but to attract Luftwaffe interceptors.
All of this was, by all accounts, very effective,. As planned, the Luftwaffe's assets were, destroyed to the extent that by June 6, 1944, it had become ineffective as a deterrent strike force.
@ I'm not contesting that, but rather the fact that the Jug was not able to penetrate on escort missions deep into germany until much after DDay. Even then it couldn't reach Berlin, while the P-51 was going into Poland and Czech.
The Bombers as Bait strategy was the 1940 RAF invention when they were using Circus and Ramrod sorties to lure up the LW fighters.
@@bobsakamanos4469 The RAF may have adopted the "bait" idea in a limited way in1940, but the Allies did not adopt it as an overall strategy until early1944. Before that, the largely unescorted daylight bombing programme was, predictably, a debacle, and a tragic waste of lives and material.
The P-47 was what it was. Not all aircraft can be of equal value in all things. There were some things that it could not do as well as the P-51 and some that it could do better, and there were some things that the P-51 could not do as well as the P-47, and some that it could do better. Every aircraft has its strengths and weaknesses. In any event, both of these aircraft greatly contributed to the victory over the Nazis.
Well done, really enjoyed this video!
FW 190 A-5, My favourite plane in WT back in the day, boom and zoom, bait people into overcommitting, love that bird.
A New TJ3 Video is Always a great way to kick off the weekend and as usual you knocked it out of the park. A awesome video on the Butcher Bird one of my favorite aircraft. Kurt Tank made so amazing German aircraft he even made the German version of the "Wooden Wonder" aka British DE Havilland DH.98 Mosquito. The TA154 Night Fighter was a beautiful aircraft that appeared to late to see any combat action. It also never solved the glue issue before wars end. Kurt Tanks planes are some coolest looking planes in the Luftwaffe. The FW 200 Condor is my favorite out of all his aircraft designs. As always TJ you somehow managed to top yourself AGAIN. Your videos keep getting better and better. I'm already Looking forward to seeing your next video. Thanks for all your hard work and research. Have a great Weekend and stay warm it's been pretty cold here so I know it must be really cold on the mainland. Please Keep 'em Flyin.
Thanks so much!! Always good to hear from you.
Great video mate! I like the use of the video game for imagery.
Well done TJ! Keep up the great work!
Perfectly true that the MK V Spitfire was not as capable as the 190 - an older model playing against the newest hot shot on the block hardly ever is, but you make the assumption that it was only the arrival of the American aircraft that could better the 190, when in actual fact the Spitfire MK IX (MK9) which had been specifically engineered to take on the 190 head to head after Fabers foolish delivery of the type to Pembury. and had been downing them one on one for twelve months before the US 8th Army Airforce even deployed to Britain, which in part urged Tank to come up with the Dora 9 then the 152 which in turn brought about the MK XII and MK XIV series Griffon engined Spitfires.
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The P47 really had the ability to choose when and how to engage...And any enemy pilot who dived to get away found out the hard way that the P47 was unbeatable in a dive. A pity they didn't fit auxiliary tanks on her earlier...
Awesome as always.
Thanks again!
Great documentary 👍
I seem to remember Supermarine upscaled the Spitfire in its next variant, improved engine and clipped wings to improve low level capabilities to deal with the FW190.
Good luck with Letters From War seems really dope.
Excellent video! Thanks! I have always preferred the 190 to the 109, even though it's probably not a popular position. 🙂
You made my morning… 👍🏽
I'm glad!
This looks amazing, which sim was used to record the footage?
The Bf-109F (Friedrick) series was equally qood as any Spitfire Mk.V, some parameters even better. Imagine if the the Series 5 Italian fighters (the DB605 engined ones) would made in large scale (Fiat G.55, Macchi C.205, Reggiane Re.2005). The Allied would have much headache than.
@@Cuccos19 correct.
By far an amazing video nicely done
That adjutant who handed over his 190 to the British probably had the most shameful existence in Luftwaffe history. And I’m thrilled to see the Dora, my favorite plane of the ETO.
I love this plane. The FW190 A8 is so beautiful.
Best looking plane from WW2. I would have wanted a P-47 though! Great video.
TJ3, thanks for this! Maybe your best work yet. Although all your stuff is the best. You're truly one of the best on all of RUclips.
@@MattSmith-mm3lp thanks so much. I truly appreciate that. Thanks for watching!
your station is awsome
I know, that its not conected to the topic, but is video in the background from IL-2: Great Battles?
also, great video! Ill definitly subscribe to you!
@hackeruman1471 War Thunder :)
TA - 152 & 153 was an absolute masterpiece.
Great video! Of all planes I’d take the P-47 jug.
Hello, TJ3 I hope you are doing well. On December 31st last year I was at the National Air And Space Museum in Virginia and there is a Martin B-26B-25-MA Marauder called Flak-Bait that happens to survive over 200 combat mission in Europe. If you like to, I would like to see you do a video about the full history of this plane. If not that's okay. No hard feelings. I just wanna share to you that I discovered something that really caught my interest. with all honestly I do think will be cool if you do a video about this B-26B-25-MA Marauder.
Already working on it :)
Kurt's original design was infact supposed to have an inline engine but wasn't going to happen due to lack of engines
My own opinion is that the Fw-190 was indeed great, but overrated. A lot of the "Focke Wulf Panic" of 1941/42 was that the RAF was going on the offensive for the first time in a big way and facing some of the same problems Germany did during the BoB. Losses were mounting and, yes a scary new type of German plane was something to think about, but a lot of those losses were from 109s. Personally I think the 109F was just as revolutionary, just as dangerous a new innovation - but it's the scary new fighter that loomed in peoples' consciousness. Once the RAF learned how to fight the Fw-190, they got the upper hand over it and kept it, particularly with the Spitfire IX being designed specifically to kill it.
Fw 190 had a 4:1 KD ratio against RAF Spitfires V and a 2.5:1 against Spit IX that is not overrated lol
Numbers are the best Argument 👍
@@hanswolfgangmercer let’s be honest the RAF never got the upper hand over 190s with the Spitfire Vs .. the 190 ate it alive again & again. The Spitfire IX (& Typhoons) arriving in numbers when the Luftwaffe had a smaller force as it was spread over several fronts had a much bigger impact. The Mediterranean, Eastern front & home defense sucked in resources and the Luftwaffe plan to contest air superiority with a smaller force of more technical aircraft was doomed to fail.
Also without hating how was the Bf-109F innovative? It was an evolution of the Emile with improved aerodynamics. Contrast this with the fw190 was one of the first high performance radial fighters, preceding the P-47 & Corsair and extensive use of electrical systems, hi vis canopy and heavy armament.
The 109F was a near total redesign of the entire airframe, replacing or moving just about everything, and it was a massive boost in performance. It's a more radical evolution than any of the 190's upgrades until the D-9.
I'm also not saying the 190 wasn't a good aircraft, it definitely was, but people make it out to be this unstoppable superweapon when it was just a fairly decent fighter. It based everything in its playbook on high speed performance but it was not that long at all before allied aircraft got just as fast. As soon as the IXs, Typhoons and later P-51s showed up those kill ratios started to reverse really dramatically.
@ I don’t disagree with most of what you have said. but I think it’s hyperbole to claim the evolved Bf-109F which is far closer structurally to the prior 109E than you seem to understand was as revolutionary as the Fw-190, a new aircraft with differences t from those that came before including engine installation, cockpit ergonomics, electrical systems, automated & intergrated engine/propellor controls and wing configuration (small, big aerilons) to be copied or influence the development of many aircraft including the tempest & bearcat. I’m not claiming the 190 was a unique super fighter, in fact in my post I pointed out it was more contemporaneous & comparable with 109Fs & Gs than the video gives the impression of. but while the 109 was revolutionary in 1935 up to 1938/9 with the E with cannon & direct fuel injection engine by 1941 is wasn’t as other contemporaneous aircraft had caught up, especially the contemporaneous spitfire in context.
While the 190 shook that from its introduction.
Classic example of lateral thinking that paid off. Re imagined by Hawker in the Tempest 2 and subsequent Fury/Sea Fury series. A Royal Navy Sea Fury shot down a Mig jet in the Korean War.
fantastic presentation. thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Unlike the Mf Me 109 the Fw 190 had a wide based wheel undercarriage like the Hurricane and therefore the 190 could like the Hurricane land on a hard service and not buckle in a crash Landing in airfield as would a 109 and a Spitfire and the bladed propeller Hurricane was considered to be just as good or slightly better than the Spitfire like the 190.
24:05, Strange how the B17s are making con trails, but the FW190s are not, in the same atmospheric conditions!!!
Awesome video 📹 as always 👌
What a gorgeous and deadly fighter
Agreed!
Really good this.
The new Spitfire Mk. V (“Mark five”) had her late 1941 combat debut on the same day the Luftwaffe introduced the Fw 190. The superiority of the Fw 190 shook the RAF to its core as their “new” fighter was second best the day she was introduced. The Air Ministry took immediate steps to remedy the situation, introducing an experimental engine, the Rolls Royce Merlin Mk. 61. The two-stage supercharged engine had to be in front-line fighters as soon as possible. This program was so important that both Supermarine (the aircraft builder), and Rolls Royce were tasked to convert 50 of the new air-frames (Mk. Vb and Vc) to the interim Mk. IX standard. The immediate need for one hundred Mk. IX Spitfires was of the greatest importance. Painstakingly the larger, wider and different back end of the Merlin 61 engine was shoehorned into a new mount that would hold the fury of almost 1,600 horsepower. Ancillary systems were removed, modified or replaced and then refitted by hand. Radiators, coolers, lines and fittings all had to be replaced with larger parts to allow the full measure of the Merlin 61 to be unleashed. It must have been a thrilling time for those aircraftsmen working in secret on this new and improved Spitfire.
Indeed. It was life or death. They lived in interesting times for sure.
Yes, I marvel at the pace of the design engineering with slide rules.
Ahh my favorite, The plane designed by Tank.
Would liked to see US Corsair fighter with four 20mm cannons vs FW190s.
Good work, thanks!
The Spitfire Mk IX was the British answer to FW-190, it could fight at high and low altitudes.
FW 190 Dora - the most beautiful plane of all time.
Both the 109 and Spitfire were limited by their designs. Both were limited in role, difficult to manufacture, short ranged, and had horrible ground handling characteristics. Both went through multiple improvements but outside of point defense, they needed something better
To be fair the layout of the 109 was very close to that of the 190. Usually German cockpits were quite easy for the pilots. The British ones were 50/50 while the US and God forbid the russian cockpits were terrible to look at and go through. The one massive advantage the 190 had was the automated systems. Something similar appeared in later G variants of the 109 but not on the same level as the 190.
Very interesting fakts!!! Thx
It sounds like the Germans had some inspiration from the Republic P47 Thunderbolt.
1) Large, powerful radial engine.
2) Powerful armament.
3) Robust and sturdy build.
4) Capable of taking a lot of damage.
5) Two-speed Supercharger.
6) Late stage development of WEP.
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When was the nick name "butcher bird" given to the FW-190, and who is given credit for that? Thanks, and great video!
General Johannes Peter Lantz love flying the FW190 with a total of 82 kills.
Fw 190 for British pilots was a bad surprise because they preffered to run instead of fight. Soviet pilots did not afraid 190 because they preffered to fight instead of run and they knew that 190 not so maneuverableas as 109 .
There were more than just Spitfires involved.
Ah the Butcher Bird.