I am of the same generation as Sensei Morris and I remember him and I disagree with him on one and only one point. If you faced him in the 70s sports karate you could feel his force before he moved. Not just me ask anyone how faced him. People a lot, lot better than me were beaten before he moved. Over the years I have seen and felt many martial arts masters. Sensei Morris is as good as any and more honest than most.
THEN YOU UNDERSTAND THE REAL POWER- the speed and power that people couldn't comprehend, that snapping literally BLINDING speed. from a STAND, A FRONT KICK INTO A HEAVY BAG THAT'S BEING HELD BY A BLACK-BELT GIVEN BY THAT INSTRUCTOR, AND THAT BAG, YOUR SITTING WATCHING THE MASTER FROM THE SIDE- BLASTS THAT BAG IN ALMOST A 90 ° DEGREE L SHAPE, THE CORNER OF THE "L" IS THE GUT LEVEL- IT SQUISHED CRUSHED THE MAN INTO THE BRICK WALL BEHIND HIM THAT BAG WAS FIXED IN, HE HIT THE FLOOR, WIND BLOWN OUT IN A HURTFUL SOUNDING RELEASE AS HE IMMEDIATELY DROPPED, AND LAID THERE, HURT, FOR A COUPLE SECONDS THEN SLOWLY STRUGGLING TO GET UP AS THE MASTER WALKED OVER ASKING HIM IF HE WAS OK, AND OF COURSE HE SAYS YES ( AS IN ANYTHING BROKEN ? ) - - EVERYONE WAS IN SILENT SHOCK. I'VE NEVER IN MY ENTIRE LIFE SEEN SUCH FORCE. AND AGAIN- FROM A STANDING POSITION AND HONESTLY I THINK THE MASTER COULD HAVE KICKED THAT BAG IN HALF WITH MORE FORCE, BUT HE DIDN'T AS NOT TO REALLY HURT THE MAN THROUGH THE BAG EVEN WORSE. - - WE WERE IN SILENT ABSOLUTE SHOCK. HE WALKS BACK TO WHERE HE STOOD, TALKING ABOUT THE FRONT KICK, THEN SHOWED US, AND SAYS : " WELL WHAT ARE YOU ALL WAITING FOR ! " - EVERYONE SCRAMBLED UP FROM SITTING TO START TRAINING WHAT HE SAID TO AFTER HE WOULD EXECUTE THE OKINAWAN SHORIN RYU FRONT KICK - I TELL YOU, MATTER OF FACT; IF THAT MASTER WENT INTO THAT AMATEUR SKILLS VENUE " UFC " : He would lay everyone out in 1 stroke, that would have to be filmed with a high speed camera. - HE, AT 4th DAN, IN OKINAWA, UPSET THE "HIERARCHY" WHEN SHUGURO NAGAZATO told him to fight against a 6th DAN AND HE DEFEATED THAT GUY INSTANTLY !!! - - LET THAT SINK IN... - INSTANTLY, KNOCKING HIM DOWN AND UP AND BACK DOWN ETC ETC ACROSS THE FLOOR ! ( BUT HE USED A MUCH DIFFERENT CIRCULAR STYLE THAT HIS DAD HAD CREATED TO DEFEAT THE SHORIN RYU ! OBVIOUSLY IT WORKED, AND PERFECTLY- FOR HIM AT 4th DAN to wipe the stage with a 6th DAN !!!!!!! ) - - NAGAZATO saying nothing, so FRANK HARGROVE 8th DAN Said " Well... your not using SHORIN RYU ! Some "____ style " !!! STICK TO THE KARATE!" ( because they were also going over an exhibition to promote the karate when my master tested his own style!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 SO- MY MASTER FACED HIM AGAIN, BUT ONLY USED THE KARATE SYSTEM, AND STILL HE DEFEATED A 6th DAN ( I forgot the 6th DAN's NAME ! but if you can acquire the handbook from 1989 her is in that as 6th ) THE GUY SAYS HE WOULD NEVER AGAIN IN HIS LIFE SPAR AGAINST MY MASTER. - so I guess he got hurt a "little bit" - - I WON'T SAY MY MASTERS NAME. BUT ANOTHER ARTIST THAT DOES POSSESS SOME OF THE SNAPPING POWER I'M SPEAKING ABOUT, HIS NAME IS JAMES COFFMAN- AND IF YOU FIND THE VIDEO WHERE THE MASTER IS DOING A SEMINAR WITH COFFMAN AND OTHER DAN's HE SHOWS A BIT, THEN COFFMAN HE ASKED TO DO THE MOVES THEN SHOW SOME OF WHAT THE MOVES ARE AND COFFMAN EXHIBITS THAT POWER BUT WITH THE RELATIVE CONTROL AS NOT TO SNAP PEOPLE'S LEGS IN HALF, AND ETC ETC. - - I'M NOT SAYING HE IS EQUAL TO MY MASTER BECAUSE HE IS NOT. NOT AT ALL AND I SAY THAT NOT BECAUSE OF ANYTHING OTHER THAN IT'S STRAIGHT FACTS !!!! I'VE NEVER IN MY LIFE SEEN POWER EVEN CLOSE TO MY MASTERS, BUT JAMES COFFMAN IS THE ONLY OTHER KARATE SENSEI THAT I SEE IS HALFWAY ON THAT SNAPPING SPEED WITH THAT UNBELIEVABLE POWER. - I'VE NOT SEEN A VIDEO WITH THIS MAN ILLUSTRATING HIS SKILL... SO I CAN'T COMMENT ON THAT ASPECT FOR HIM, BUT I'VE SEEN HIM DEMONSTRATE WHAT THE KATA IS, AND I CAN SEE THAT HE HAS MASTERFUL , INDEED, KNOWLEDGE AND I CAN ALSO TELL HE'S POSSESSING GREAT POWER... I'D WAGER HE'S LIKELY IN THAT CATEGORY. - - 1 LAST THING, WHEN YOU CAN STOP WALKING IN, SAY A SHOPPING MALL AND BREAK A HOLE IN THE CINDER-BLOCK WALL WITH A SIDE-CHOP ( SO THE TWO IDIOTS WALKING TOWARDS YOU OBVIOUSLY FLEXING FOR TROUBLE AS THEY'RE BULLIES AND STUPID ) AND THOSE TWO IDIOTS WENT FROM BULLY I'LL CRUSH YOU EXPRESSIONS TO BEING TO BE TAUGHT, THAT'S SNAPPING SPEED AND POWER THAT I'M SPEAKING ABOUT- AND JAMES COFFMAN DID THAT WALKING WITH MY UNCLE ( WHO WAS A STUDENT OF HIS ) - - IF YOU'VE ANY LINKS TO THIS GUY SHOWING HIS REAL SKILL, PLEASE REPLY WITH IT. THANK YOU. * >> PS- I'VE SHARED WITH YOU COMPLETE TRUTH. I HOPE YOU ENJOYED THIS ACCOUNT OF A MASTER THAT I AM TO THIS DAY STILL NOT SEEN EVEN A CLOSE IN SKILL, AND THEN THE ACCOUNT OF JAMES COFFMAN, WHO IS IN THE LOWER LEVELS OF WHERE MY MASTER CAME WAY AHEAD OF AND 35 YEARS AGO. - ( THAT KICK INTO THAT BAG ! ... I WALKED UP TO IT AFTER CLASS AS I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT DIDN'T RIP ALMOST IN HALF WHEN HE KICKED IT INTO THE SHAPE OF AN L !!! ) 🙏🔥😇🙏
Vince, you have answered the questions that I asked back in 2003, what are the kata’s for and how do they work for real. I got BS back, so I started my own real street defence classes. Vince you’re a legend, thank you for your honesty and sharing your experience.
Sadly, most teachers are afraid to confront the reality that their way was not the best, nor did it make sense. They also do not like to be challenged on these things and claim anyone not on their level does not have a claim to legitimacy. You did the right thing by going explore elsewhere. I kinda did the same but came back to Karate for more kata study. Once I am very comfortable with them, i will have to test them and try them in a self defence/Krav Maga class. karate group does not test self defense in drills or real scenario. Only Karate vs Karate for the sake of practice... Sensei Morris is speaking my language with everything he said in this video; I hear myself and what i got shut down by talking about in various Karate schools. It is a very taboo subject that what they practice doesn't work in actual combat. Not saying Karate doesn't, simply how they learned it and and choose to teach it is flawed. It is sad that people seeking practical Karate (the real deal) are a minority in the bunch.
Has anyone lately seen the work of Michael Nguyen? How about Patrick McCarty or Iain Abernathy? Once you do and compare it with other styles like Muay Thai and judo/ju-jutsu it all comes into focus....
Generally speaking, the older Japanese JKA instructors came from a culture that despised Westerners and western culture - mainly because of Japan’s defeat in WW2 and the destruction of Nagasaki and Hiroshima - and who could blame them? I’d be pissed off too! They simply did not WANT to teach us these things
Karate is the absolute best. From training, hardness and absolute discipline and mind development. I trained Shotokan in Bosnia since age 13. Still remember every technique and was best in kicks due to my genetics and ability to be fast and absolutely through those kicks passed people as tall as 6'4".. This man brought back Karate to where it was and should be still complete system!
Nice words . I’m 59 still a young man, I’ve been through different thoughts and changes about karate as you do if not stagnant, I'm still at it parting the clouds seeking the way , I regularly say karate is not I right to be safe .i agree I have seen people under the illusion of a black belt , it concerns me, brilliant chat interesting I’ve learnt from your spirit and honesty.
90 percent ! Now you see how come Karate is so luaght at in sport form ,Karate is still around but it's hard work and hard to find, especially a devoted instructor.
I remember this man for The Illustrated Guide to Katate from back in the 80's and his knowledge was vast then and it is vast nowadays just the same if not that much more.
I attended one of Vice's courses back in the 80's and I still remember it..great stuff glad to see your still going Sensei Vic ...I'm 70 so catching you up..
My grandfather was a professional wrestler and judo practitioner who trained and taught in Japan. He once shared with me that while studying various Asian and Japanese arts, a Japanese master informed him that the true arts are hidden from the general public and are really only for the elites, and what civilians and foreigners are taught is a deliberately reduced form of fighting art in Japan, Korea, China and India
Just look around at the distortion of martial arts by the common man to see why things were kept under cover, to protect the practitioners if no one else
Soy de Venezuela, como me hubiese gustado tener la fortuna de conocer y aprender de un maestro tan sabio y con tantos conocimientos como el sr Vince Morris.. sabiduría pura..oss
Too bad if you are the only one in the room who has had real fights, and after 60 yrs training you are a breath of fresh air. I tell a student that I will not teach you to spar. I will teach you to kill or seriously hurt someone. You have to be willing to defend your life. That means the life trying to kill you has to end, at the very least you have to break body parts. I don’t get many young students. It’s the old guys who understand. I’m 72. Almost all students are over 50. We do a lot of conditioning, dynamic breaking training, kata and bunkai. We also do a lot of yakusoku, prearranged, very violently with full speed and as much power and intensity we can muster without actually killing each other. Shit does happen. Blood and bruises. But, that’s how you learn to not let it happen again. Any school where you do not train to actually defend yourself, kata becomes just a dance. It’s interesting that we have lots of kids under 14, and they all disappear after that. They come back years later when they hit 40. I guess life teaches them. Karate is violent, with great potential for more violence against an attacker. You have to train like it’s real, until you feel it.
Information is inaccurate about referring to Chinese medicine. Highly likely the Frenchman he is referring to is George Soulie de Morant, a diplomat posted in China, learnt the language, trained in traditional acupuncture and promoted it back in Europe writing a comprehensive textbook. He was born 1879 and was in Shanghai until 1917 almost a hundred years after the Napoleonic wars ended- First inaccuracy. De Morant did use the term meridian, this is a French translation of the term jinglou, which is also more accurately translated into the English as channels, and roughly describes the pathway that the chi runs through like a canal system. Certainly not invented by De Morant, the jingluo was described in the ancient Chinese text the huangdi neijing, yellow emporer classic, a text that is over 2 thousand years old- second inaccuracy. There are similarities with hypocrites humour system, but the systems are uniquely different. Chi is very specific to Chinese medicine. Agree with concept that throws are missing from the karate system. That is apparent from the 90s UFC, very intelligent that he brought it back to his teachings. Right about some things but not right about everything as I have evidenced.
I think this development of less practical martial knowledge happened with just about any traditional martial arts. It happened with traditional kungfu, traditional pencak silat, etc. You have to be really lucky to find a martial art that have the real knowledge shared.
I trained in Scottish Mac's hall in ( Seymor Hall? ) Central London for a while as a teenager. Gentle and patient showing us beginners the basics. Muttering something under his breath a lot of the time for some reason. I believe he was the first Westerner to get to Black Belt in Japan? In Judo or Karate, not sure.
Thank you sir, yourself, Evan Pantazi, and Russell Stutely, are the 3 martial artists I listen to, and watch your videos on Kyusho, which I am incorporating into my wing chun, once again thank you for your knowledge
I did Karate and know Kata and your right about that. It’s never used in real fighting and yesterday I went on RUclips to find out if any kung fu snake tiger claw monkey style has ever been used in real fighting and the backflip and there’s NOTHING. From a Cook Islander
Not only Higaonna but many others who have been lost to history, went to Fujian province to learn the different methods of Crane boxing. In the end karate is the original MMA.
I love the quote “ The more you train at doing something wrong the better you get at doing it wrong “. I trained in the martial arts for around 40 years. Started with Chung Do Kwan taekwondo and transitioned to Chinese Kenpo. I never really felt as though TKD alone was enough to be a proficient fighter in a street fight
I personally believe that all karate-ka should learn and practice all other methods of striking. Given the current situation with most karate schools today, karate-kas should train in muay thai, but also savate, TKD, and boxing. Even as far as going to train in obscure Chinese kung-fu styles. It would fill in all those parts that currently are missing from karate. It's not so much the styles themselves, but the modality in which they are practice. For example muay thai trains the way most karate schools should train, and basically the style is a simplified method of karate. That's why I enjoy the work that Michael Nguyen has done towards understanding karate.
Vince Morris claims a Frenchman, after the "Napoleonic Wars" created the meridian energy channels of the body? I would love to read this reference, so, if Vince or anyone can link me up to that reference, it would be very much appreciated.
Were martial arts from Okinawa deliberately watered down in Japan to make the art safer for practice as a physical education program in schools and prevent people from other places from acquiring the real technical methods unless they were first verified to have worthy personal character development?
That was one of many compounding reason why karate was watered down; to make sure karate was less violent for teaching school kids, but there was also pressure from various japanese governing bodies to uniformise and narrow karate. Throwing was dropped from the syllabus because the Japanese already had judo and wanted something different from karate. And of course as Vince labour here much of it was dropped for sporting reasons. Putting all that aside how relevant is verifying a persons character today? How many "bad" or "irresponsible" people are training that we should hide the effective karate from until they prove themselves to be worthy? You should not teach some stuff to kids but for adults this idea of vetting is a bit of joke after all how many adult students have you had to remove from your club for being "bad" or "irresponsible"? BUT here is the big, big problem - people say we don't teach the effective stuff until people show they are worthy, but actually they never teach the effective stuff at all to anybody even long, long after they have proven they are beyond a shadow of a doubt worthy - at very least they never teach the good stuff in context driven drills that build reflexive responses to real life situations. The problem with karate is that the children's version of "non-violent" karate is all that is left and all that is taught in most schools.
One thing I realized many years ago, is why certain techniques work easier/better for Orientals compared to ‘Westerners’. That being their ‘physique’. Being over six-feet myself, competing against most opponents that were 5 or 6 inches shorter, reduced the target area for attack. Coming ‘down’ to them was awkward using my hands, so I relied on my feet. Shorter people seem to have a ‘natural speed’ for moves and strikes. I prefer a larger opponent, for that same reason. I attribute this to gravity on the body. Mental condition, aside! Just my own experience, of course.
You shouldn't dismiss the idea of being able to learn how to control various types of energetic forces (call it chi or whatever you like) just because you currently cant see how such a thing is possible. In dismissing the possibility you are mentally giving up on discovering the ideas behind what makes such a thing possible. Everything we do in these bodies is an expression of an interaction with energetic forces. Even the triggering of a mechanism in the brain to interact with the bodies systems to make your finger twiddle is an energetic interaction. To say that it is impossible to learn of other ways to interact with our perceived reality and achieve energetic interaction that would be perceived by others as miraculous is just wrong. Remember, just because you cant currently see how something could be possible does not make said thing impossible.
Did a course with him around 2000, and it was excellent. I don't think you can criticise funakoshi and kano's influence too much though as if it wasn't for them karate and other martial arts wouldn't have spread around the world as it did. But maybe its time we all stop, and think and go back to the pre Japan ways of training. I've taken up jujitsu to supplement my karate as it's all pressure points, locks, throws and strangles.
The original ideas of Funakoshi and Kano were not so bad, it was after extreme sportification of these arts that they became useless and nothing more than just a game. Same thing happened with European martial arts due to the progress of technology and civility. The need for personal self-defence became less needed. The arts of swordsmanship and grappling became sports in the form of fencing, wrestling and modern boxing. Today there has been a revival on those subjects, going back to the original treatises and finding the real applications. Just like European historical martial arts, karate and other Asian martial arts need to do a review and go back to the original sources. What I personally see most is not the application itself, but the methodology in which it is practiced. Too much rigid formality and not enough individual training. We should all take a page from muay thai and the way they train...
I appreciate when someone seeks the truth of Martial Arts, however, competition was never about real fighting. There are rules in every Martial Arts competition, it's no more than a game. Karate practitioners from Okinawan also compete a lot nowadays. The problem never was the Japaneses, is that people look at competitions and wanna see some true fight, that's a total misunderstanding. By the way, Karate competitiors from 70's to 90's were by far much more scaring than any self defense coach. Of course, I totally agree that true Karate Do is beyond self defense and tournaments.
look gary spiers up on .youtube. he was anthour karate legend who was trained in okinawan buy master miro higgonna and became the world toughest boncer and body guard in the world working in 119 citys world wide and trained loads people to become. mma . world champions.
There is this blind myth that if you are Japanese and a senior rank your talk the utter truth . Vince is absolutely correct in that there is a lot of bollocks being taught . I’ve seen demos from senior Japanese karateka with knives . It would be nearly impossible for them to get away with that methodology. A decent knife fighter would hurt them . Realism is the key and ferocity of technique . 28 years of policing taught me one thing . Bad people want to fuck you up and my karate training helped me up to a point . I refined my skills on that pavement arena . It’s generally a case of simple and fast aggressive takedowns and strikes . One hit and down when it’s the last resort . Certainly sounds like Asano in his past days . He was a vicious beggar .
I have always asked the question: if a knife is nothing more than an extension of the arm/hand, and we learn to defend against kicks and punches. Why does it become so difficult and complicated to defend against a knife? Just like a punch or kick a knife in a hand can only attack in so many angles. Maybe the problem doesn't lays so much on how to defend against a knife, but on not knowing how to just in any other situation take someone out quickly and effectively.... How many people are taught and trained to knock out anyone in 3 seconds?
Hi I’m a mature martial artist who has had good fortune to have trained and travelled all over the world I loved your explanation and knowledge And totally agree How do I contact you I’d love to hear more
Karate is about fighting your own demons and ego not about street fighting or western barbaric expression,,,it is a way of life to self development and expanding Human awareness and balance...how you use the tools acquire is a personal choice
Those are honorary titles given by the organization in recognition of their contributions to the art. All you need is up to second degree, that's when you have become proficient enough. The rest is experience and acquired understanding of the art, which in a large organization are given in recognition of your work.
Dear Sir, Any long journey, usually, has its ups and downs. Let me agree with your observation, that fighting is closer tophysics, distance angles, and timing, than to metphisics, like Chi-Qong etc. However, let me disagree with your staements, that Cinese had no ideas of Meridians. Britain has not been on the map, when CHinese medical practiioners were already bus yto help their emperors to live as long as possible. As to your fighting experience, there must be a distinction between Kata and Kumite. Kata is writhing in Block letters while Kumite is Handwriting. As for the Japanese´s conversion the Okinawan martial art into sports served both sides: the Okinawans were given the chanse to pass on their formerly fordbidden traditions, fobidden by the Japanese!, and the World was happy to see a most economical way of fighting based on distance, angles and timing! All that without endangering people presenting the art wihtout getting killed or disabled!!! Dear Sir, let me give my deepest appreciation for your having lasted so long and positively to martial arts. And alsoexpress my best wishes to health and happiness in your life. Paul, 68, retired from MAs, due to health reasons, while remaining the fan of the MA movement.
Great Sensei, but I think the Pinan/Heian kata are a waste of time. They were introduced to teach school 🏫 children safe kata. The Naihanchi/Tekki kata were the first taught kata prior to that. And Motobu Sensei hated the Pinan kata too
But the basics are the foundation of everything, and in all reality that is all that you really need the rest is just all practice. Fear the man who has practice a technique a thousand times, than the man who has practice a thousand techniques one time.
@@bilbobaggins4403. Glad you responded so I can elaborate. The problem lies in what and how it is taught. So often the confusion is with what the movements in katas are and how they are applied. Take blocks for example; most people believe that they are parries against attacks, they couldn't be more wrong. Another one is the directions in kata's movements; often confused with the direction in which you face an attack. Nothing could be further from the truth, those movements are the direction in which you lead or take your opponent. Basics or kihon practice is to perfect your natural instinctive ability to strike at someone or something, nothing more, nothing less. That practice will become instinctive under the stress of actual execution. Practicing in deep stances strengthen the body to more easily execute the technique in a natural posture. A video can more easily explain this, that's why I suggest watching some of the work of Michael Nguyen and others like Iain Abernathy for example. From my experience I knew of someone who was only taught one single technique and became quite proficient in its employment. As a streetfighter nonetheless.
I like a lot of what you are saying. However, you made the statement that meridians were invented by a Frenchman around the time of the Napoleonic wars. What is that Frenchman's name? What is your source of information? Is that source a singular source? Is the author of that source credible?
I believe Vince is referring to: A French diplomatic scholar, George Soulié de Morant brought acupuncture to Europe in the early 1900 s after serving in China [5]. He coined the terms meridian and energy. (Source Journal of Acupuncture and Meridian Studies Volume 3, Issue 2, June 2010, Pages 67-74). I am pretty certain that this is a generally accepted explanation by now. I've even read sources that state that 'qi' was a term originally used to describe the vapour rising from food.
@@jondsloan Thank you. Will do the research. However, what does not make sense to me is that the concept did not exist prior to him coining the term. The idea that there are energy channels, and that energy runs in a very specific direction through those channels, has to be older than Morant if he coined terms to refer to these point. The points have numbers which indicate the direction of the flow of energy. The concept, although expressed through completely different channels is in aruyveda, and called nadis.
Skyler I’ve read other sources over the years that claim that the practice is rooted in Ancient Greece and was more to do with mapping astronomical patterns into the body. It’s not that far removed with medieval ‘doctors’ thinking that blood, bile and phlegm were the key balances in the human body, in my opinion.
@@jondsloan The astronomical mappings make sense, as metaphysics in both the East and the West operate on the principle of "As above, so below." While the people of the ancient world came to a lot of erroneous conclusions about the body and the natural world, that principle has lead to the atomic theory, the atomic model, and is the basis for quantum physics. There is value in some of the old; however it is necessary to view all information with a critical mind. Like I said, this is good information, but I need to do more research before I draw any conclusions.
I seen the video and the reality of that was that all those involved really didn't know how to deal with it. Much less understood the mechanics or how it works. It begs to ask the question: if people are taught to defend against a punch or a kick, and a knife is nothing more than an extension of the arm or hand. Then why does it become so difficult to deal with it? Maybe the problem is with, people are not taught to knock out someone in 3 seconds...
@@bilbobaggins4403 . That's a possibility that exists in a fight against a knife, that's why you have to avoid and eliminate all the variables beforehand. A knife attack is most dangerous when it's an ambush, then it becomes a matter of where you get stab or cut.
A Japanese aikido instructor was once asked " How do you defend yourself against a knife?". Instructor: "Irimi" Student "Irimi and then what? Instructor "Irimi whatever you like" I would take from this that if the irimi is correct you are in business, if it is wrong then it is probably curtains.
I dont get where he got his information from. I read up to 100 books on martial arts (no joke) and the finger jab to the eyes and knee to the groin was in most of them. My karate teachers made us do those techniques all the time. Hiza geri (knee strike yo the groin) was one of the first techniques you got to learn. So no, what he says is totally wrong. Finger jabs to eyes, knees to groin and low kicks ARE a part of japanese karate. They are not even advanced techniques they are basic techniques you learn early on. Maybe his perticular school just sucked. By the way, you dont stick your fingers in your friends eyes when you sparr because you dont want to make them blind!
I did shotokan at a tough club for 8 years ( Enoeda sensei graded ) We used elbows and shin kicks all the time ( not full power elbows ,) but full power shin kicks We did spinning ushiro geri / stepping in ushiro geri .In fact I once had to spar with a taekwondo guy and he was shocked when I hard kicked him in the shins.
@@John-ob7dh You trained with Enoeda? Impressive! I trained with Shingo Ohgami who was a direct student of the founder of wado ryu. Enoeda is a legend. Really cool you trained with him.
@@THEMARTIALARTSCHANNEL-bb4fx I was graded by him and attended 2 separate 5 day courses in London under Enoeda.Kawasoe.kanazawa.and 2 0r 3 others i cannot remember ( this was in the 70s ) Also our club had sensei Pauline Fuller ( said to have been the best female karateka in the world ) I sparred many times with her .Did you know Enoeda was directly descended from Samurai in his family . He was nick named the Shotokan Tiger .Regards.
The real karate - not even in Okinawa now - sadly. Maybe Krav. Your book is popular with many of my friends. Never on lone. Trained with you back in the 80’s here in Perth, West Australia. Keep well. 🇦🇺🦘👍
I would choose this man as a teacher without any hesitation.
I am of the same generation as Sensei Morris and I remember him and I disagree with him on one and only one point. If you faced him in the 70s sports karate you could feel his force before he moved. Not just me ask anyone how faced him. People a lot, lot better than me were beaten before he moved. Over the years I have seen and felt many martial arts masters. Sensei Morris is as good as any and more honest than most.
THEN YOU UNDERSTAND THE REAL POWER- the speed and power that people couldn't comprehend, that snapping literally BLINDING speed.
from a STAND, A FRONT KICK INTO A HEAVY BAG THAT'S BEING HELD BY A BLACK-BELT GIVEN BY THAT INSTRUCTOR, AND THAT BAG, YOUR SITTING WATCHING THE MASTER FROM THE SIDE- BLASTS THAT BAG IN ALMOST A 90 ° DEGREE L SHAPE, THE CORNER OF THE "L" IS THE GUT LEVEL- IT SQUISHED CRUSHED THE MAN INTO THE BRICK WALL BEHIND HIM THAT BAG WAS FIXED IN, HE HIT THE FLOOR, WIND BLOWN OUT IN A HURTFUL SOUNDING RELEASE AS HE IMMEDIATELY DROPPED, AND LAID THERE, HURT, FOR A COUPLE SECONDS THEN SLOWLY STRUGGLING TO GET UP AS THE MASTER WALKED OVER ASKING HIM IF HE WAS OK, AND OF COURSE HE SAYS YES
( AS IN ANYTHING BROKEN ? )
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- EVERYONE WAS IN SILENT SHOCK.
I'VE NEVER IN MY ENTIRE LIFE SEEN SUCH FORCE. AND AGAIN- FROM A STANDING POSITION AND HONESTLY I THINK THE MASTER COULD HAVE KICKED THAT BAG IN HALF WITH MORE FORCE, BUT HE DIDN'T AS NOT TO REALLY HURT THE MAN THROUGH THE BAG EVEN WORSE.
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- WE WERE IN SILENT ABSOLUTE SHOCK.
HE WALKS BACK TO WHERE HE STOOD, TALKING ABOUT THE FRONT KICK, THEN SHOWED US, AND SAYS :
" WELL WHAT ARE YOU ALL WAITING FOR ! "
- EVERYONE SCRAMBLED UP FROM SITTING TO START TRAINING WHAT HE SAID TO AFTER HE WOULD EXECUTE THE
OKINAWAN SHORIN RYU FRONT KICK
- I TELL YOU, MATTER OF FACT; IF THAT MASTER WENT INTO THAT AMATEUR SKILLS VENUE " UFC " :
He would lay everyone out in 1 stroke, that would have to be filmed with a high speed camera.
- HE, AT 4th DAN, IN OKINAWA, UPSET THE
"HIERARCHY" WHEN SHUGURO NAGAZATO
told him to fight against a 6th DAN AND HE DEFEATED THAT GUY INSTANTLY !!!
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- LET THAT SINK IN...
- INSTANTLY, KNOCKING HIM DOWN AND UP AND BACK DOWN ETC ETC ACROSS THE FLOOR !
( BUT HE USED A MUCH DIFFERENT CIRCULAR STYLE THAT HIS DAD HAD CREATED TO DEFEAT THE SHORIN RYU ! OBVIOUSLY IT WORKED, AND PERFECTLY- FOR HIM AT 4th DAN to wipe the stage with a 6th DAN !!!!!!! )
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- NAGAZATO saying nothing, so FRANK HARGROVE 8th DAN Said " Well... your not using SHORIN RYU ! Some "____ style " !!! STICK TO THE KARATE!" ( because they were also going over an exhibition to promote the karate when my master tested his own style!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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MY MASTER FACED HIM AGAIN, BUT ONLY USED THE KARATE SYSTEM, AND STILL HE DEFEATED A 6th DAN
( I forgot the 6th DAN's NAME ! but if you can acquire the handbook from 1989 her is in that as 6th )
THE GUY SAYS HE WOULD NEVER AGAIN IN HIS LIFE SPAR AGAINST MY MASTER.
- so I guess he got hurt a "little bit"
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- I WON'T SAY MY MASTERS NAME. BUT ANOTHER ARTIST THAT DOES POSSESS SOME OF THE SNAPPING POWER I'M SPEAKING ABOUT, HIS NAME IS JAMES COFFMAN- AND IF YOU FIND THE VIDEO WHERE THE MASTER IS DOING A SEMINAR WITH COFFMAN AND OTHER DAN's HE SHOWS A BIT, THEN COFFMAN HE ASKED TO DO THE MOVES THEN SHOW SOME OF WHAT THE MOVES ARE AND COFFMAN EXHIBITS THAT POWER BUT WITH THE RELATIVE CONTROL AS NOT TO SNAP PEOPLE'S LEGS IN HALF, AND ETC ETC.
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- I'M NOT SAYING HE IS EQUAL TO MY MASTER BECAUSE HE IS NOT.
NOT AT ALL
AND I SAY THAT NOT BECAUSE OF ANYTHING OTHER THAN IT'S STRAIGHT FACTS !!!!
I'VE NEVER IN MY LIFE SEEN POWER EVEN CLOSE TO MY MASTERS, BUT JAMES COFFMAN IS THE ONLY OTHER KARATE SENSEI THAT I SEE IS HALFWAY ON THAT SNAPPING SPEED WITH THAT UNBELIEVABLE POWER.
- I'VE NOT SEEN A VIDEO WITH THIS MAN ILLUSTRATING HIS SKILL... SO I CAN'T COMMENT ON THAT ASPECT FOR HIM, BUT I'VE SEEN HIM DEMONSTRATE WHAT THE KATA IS, AND I CAN SEE THAT HE HAS MASTERFUL , INDEED, KNOWLEDGE AND I CAN ALSO TELL HE'S POSSESSING GREAT POWER... I'D WAGER HE'S LIKELY IN THAT CATEGORY.
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- 1 LAST THING, WHEN YOU CAN STOP WALKING IN, SAY A SHOPPING MALL AND BREAK A HOLE IN THE CINDER-BLOCK WALL WITH A SIDE-CHOP
( SO THE TWO IDIOTS WALKING TOWARDS YOU OBVIOUSLY FLEXING FOR TROUBLE AS THEY'RE BULLIES AND STUPID ) AND THOSE TWO IDIOTS WENT FROM BULLY I'LL CRUSH YOU EXPRESSIONS TO BEING TO BE TAUGHT, THAT'S SNAPPING SPEED AND POWER THAT I'M SPEAKING ABOUT- AND JAMES COFFMAN DID THAT WALKING WITH MY UNCLE ( WHO WAS A STUDENT OF HIS )
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- IF YOU'VE ANY LINKS TO THIS GUY SHOWING HIS REAL SKILL, PLEASE REPLY WITH IT.
THANK YOU.
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>> PS- I'VE SHARED WITH YOU COMPLETE TRUTH. I HOPE YOU ENJOYED THIS ACCOUNT OF A MASTER THAT I AM TO THIS DAY STILL NOT SEEN EVEN A CLOSE IN SKILL, AND THEN THE ACCOUNT OF JAMES COFFMAN, WHO IS IN THE LOWER LEVELS OF WHERE MY MASTER CAME WAY AHEAD OF AND 35 YEARS AGO.
- ( THAT KICK INTO THAT BAG ! ... I WALKED UP TO IT AFTER CLASS AS I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT DIDN'T RIP ALMOST IN HALF WHEN HE KICKED IT INTO THE SHAPE OF AN L !!! )
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Vince Morris, thank you for supportig the truth!!!!
Vince, you have answered the questions that I asked back in 2003, what are the kata’s for and how do they work for real.
I got BS back, so I started my own real street defence classes.
Vince you’re a legend, thank you for your honesty and sharing your experience.
Sadly, most teachers are afraid to confront the reality that their way was not the best, nor did it make sense. They also do not like to be challenged on these things and claim anyone not on their level does not have a claim to legitimacy. You did the right thing by going explore elsewhere.
I kinda did the same but came back to Karate for more kata study. Once I am very comfortable with them, i will have to test them and try them in a self defence/Krav Maga class. karate group does not test self defense in drills or real scenario. Only Karate vs Karate for the sake of practice...
Sensei Morris is speaking my language with everything he said in this video; I hear myself and what i got shut down by talking about in various Karate schools. It is a very taboo subject that what they practice doesn't work in actual combat. Not saying Karate doesn't, simply how they learned it and and choose to teach it is flawed. It is sad that people seeking practical Karate (the real deal) are a minority in the bunch.
Has anyone lately seen the work of Michael Nguyen? How about Patrick McCarty or Iain Abernathy? Once you do and compare it with other styles like Muay Thai and judo/ju-jutsu it all comes into focus....
Generally speaking, the older Japanese JKA instructors came from a culture that despised Westerners and western culture - mainly because of Japan’s defeat in WW2 and the destruction of Nagasaki and Hiroshima - and who could blame them? I’d be pissed off too!
They simply did not WANT to teach us these things
This guy really gets it. I would love to have found a teacher like this when I was a kid.
He's my teacher, and his seminars are great. Before joining his association, I learned a lot from his DVDs. 🙂
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I hope you have seen his "One strike: One kill" video. That was incredible!!😲
@@t-dawg894where can I get them DVD’s?
Glad to see Vince still around and wiser than ever. Had the honour to be taught by him at Nottingham University in 1980. Ois
I am fortunate enough to have a teacher who is approximately Vince's age,who trains this way. They are few and far between.
Where??
Thank you sensei Morris for all you have done for my karate, and for my students' karate.
Karate is the absolute best.
From training, hardness and absolute discipline and mind development.
I trained Shotokan in Bosnia since age 13.
Still remember every technique and was best in kicks due to my genetics and ability to be fast and absolutely through those kicks passed people as tall as 6'4"..
This man brought back Karate to where it was and should be still complete system!
I have been involved in karate since the mid-60s, I am aware of Vince but never met him, must say he speaks very well, I am impressed
Nice words . I’m 59 still a young man, I’ve been through different thoughts and changes about karate as you do if not stagnant, I'm still at it parting the clouds seeking the way , I regularly say karate is not I right to be safe .i agree I have seen people under the illusion of a black belt , it concerns me, brilliant chat interesting I’ve learnt from your spirit and honesty.
Great bloke. Only found him recently. But love the no-nonsense approach.
Vince never disappoints.
90 percent ! Now you see how come Karate is so luaght at in sport form ,Karate is still around but it's hard work and hard to find, especially a devoted instructor.
Profound, I started karate when I was 12, then cross trained with boxing and taekwondo. Respect Oss
Loved this. What he's talking about is exactly why i started training with Tadashi Yamashita.
Tadashi Yamashita is as real as they come .
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Damn,Tadashi Yamashita. Now you're talking
Pure golden truth!I appreciated mostly his point on b.s,chi and "magic kyusho"(i know the french invention of meridians).
I remember this man for
The Illustrated Guide to Katate
from back in the 80's and his knowledge was vast then and it is vast nowadays just the same if not that much more.
I attended one of Vice's courses back in the 80's and I still remember it..great stuff glad to see your still going Sensei Vic ...I'm 70 so catching you up..
My grandfather was a professional wrestler and judo practitioner who trained and taught in Japan. He once shared with me that while studying various Asian and Japanese arts, a Japanese master informed him that the true arts are hidden from the general public and are really only for the elites, and what civilians and foreigners are taught is a deliberately reduced form of fighting art in Japan, Korea, China and India
Just look around at the distortion of martial arts by the common man to see why things were kept under cover, to protect the practitioners if no one else
Excellent video sir
Soy de Venezuela, como me hubiese gustado tener la fortuna de conocer y aprender de un maestro tan sabio y con tantos conocimientos como el sr Vince Morris.. sabiduría pura..oss
Too bad if you are the only one in the room who has had real fights, and after 60 yrs training you are a breath of fresh air. I tell a student that I will not teach you to spar. I will teach you to kill or seriously hurt someone. You have to be willing to defend your life. That means the life trying to kill you has to end, at the very least you have to break body parts. I don’t get many young students. It’s the old guys who understand. I’m 72. Almost all students are over 50. We do a lot of conditioning, dynamic breaking training, kata and bunkai. We also do a lot of yakusoku, prearranged, very violently with full speed and as much power and intensity we can muster without actually killing each other. Shit does happen. Blood and bruises. But, that’s how you learn to not let it happen again. Any school where you do not train to actually defend yourself, kata becomes just a dance. It’s interesting that we have lots of kids under 14, and they all disappear after that. They come back years later when they hit 40. I guess life teaches them. Karate is violent, with great potential for more violence against an attacker. You have to train like it’s real, until you feel it.
Information is inaccurate about referring to Chinese medicine. Highly likely the Frenchman he is referring to is George Soulie de Morant, a diplomat posted in China, learnt the language, trained in traditional acupuncture and promoted it back in Europe writing a comprehensive textbook. He was born 1879 and was in Shanghai until 1917 almost a hundred years after the Napoleonic wars ended- First inaccuracy. De Morant did use the term meridian, this is a French translation of the term jinglou, which is also more accurately translated into the English as channels, and roughly describes the pathway that the chi runs through like a canal system. Certainly not invented by De Morant, the jingluo was described in the ancient Chinese text the huangdi neijing, yellow emporer classic, a text that is over 2 thousand years old- second inaccuracy.
There are similarities with hypocrites humour system, but the systems are uniquely different. Chi is very specific to Chinese medicine. Agree with concept that throws are missing from the karate system. That is apparent from the 90s UFC, very intelligent that he brought it back to his teachings. Right about some things but not right about everything as I have evidenced.
I purchased one of his karate books in the early 80's. It was called "The Illustrated Guide to Karate". Glad to see he is doing well.
He speaks the truth
👍 excellent
riveting interview
I think this development of less practical martial knowledge happened with just about any traditional martial arts. It happened with traditional kungfu, traditional pencak silat, etc. You have to be really lucky to find a martial art that have the real knowledge shared.
He’s a real one.
I trained in Scottish Mac's hall in ( Seymor Hall? ) Central London for a while as a teenager. Gentle and patient showing us beginners the basics. Muttering something under his breath a lot of the time for some reason.
I believe he was the first Westerner to get to Black Belt in Japan?
In Judo or Karate, not sure.
Thank you sir, yourself, Evan Pantazi, and Russell Stutely, are the 3 martial artists I listen to, and watch your videos on Kyusho, which I am incorporating into my wing chun, once again thank you for your knowledge
Tadashi Yamashita is also the truth
More names, I love it. I knew of only Noah Legel and his group. A few here in Canada with Karate Unity but far from where I reside.
Russel Stutely 😂
Amazing Proper Sensei ❤️🙏🥋
Here here !
I did Karate and know Kata and your right about that. It’s never used in real fighting and yesterday I went on RUclips to find out if any kung fu snake tiger claw monkey style has ever been used in real fighting and the backflip and there’s NOTHING. From a Cook Islander
he has what we need
Karate was developed in the ryu kyu islands Okinawa Shuri and Nahai...Kanryo Higaonna learned White Crane in Fuzhou China and brought it back.
Not only Higaonna but many others who have been lost to history, went to Fujian province to learn the different methods of Crane boxing. In the end karate is the original MMA.
I love the quote “ The more you train at doing something wrong the better you get at doing it wrong “. I trained in the martial arts for around 40 years. Started with Chung Do Kwan taekwondo and transitioned to Chinese Kenpo. I never really felt as though TKD alone was enough to be a proficient fighter in a street fight
I personally believe that all karate-ka should learn and practice all other methods of striking. Given the current situation with most karate schools today, karate-kas should train in muay thai, but also savate, TKD, and boxing. Even as far as going to train in obscure Chinese kung-fu styles. It would fill in all those parts that currently are missing from karate.
It's not so much the styles themselves, but the modality in which they are practice. For example muay thai trains the way most karate schools should train, and basically the style is a simplified method of karate. That's why I enjoy the work that Michael Nguyen has done towards understanding karate.
Love this osss
Vince Morris claims a Frenchman, after the "Napoleonic Wars" created the meridian energy channels of the body? I would love to read this reference, so, if Vince or anyone can link me up to that reference, it would be very much appreciated.
Respect.
Spot on!!
Were martial arts from Okinawa deliberately watered down in Japan to make the art safer for practice as a physical education program in schools and prevent people from other places from acquiring the real technical methods unless they were first verified to have worthy personal character development?
That was one of many compounding reason why karate was watered down; to make sure karate was less violent for teaching school kids, but there was also pressure from various japanese governing bodies to uniformise and narrow karate. Throwing was dropped from the syllabus because the Japanese already had judo and wanted something different from karate. And of course as Vince labour here much of it was dropped for sporting reasons. Putting all that aside how relevant is verifying a persons character today? How many "bad" or "irresponsible" people are training that we should hide the effective karate from until they prove themselves to be worthy? You should not teach some stuff to kids but for adults this idea of vetting is a bit of joke after all how many adult students have you had to remove from your club for being "bad" or "irresponsible"? BUT here is the big, big problem - people say we don't teach the effective stuff until people show they are worthy, but actually they never teach the effective stuff at all to anybody even long, long after they have proven they are beyond a shadow of a doubt worthy - at very least they never teach the good stuff in context driven drills that build reflexive responses to real life situations. The problem with karate is that the children's version of "non-violent" karate is all that is left and all that is taught in most schools.
One thing I realized many years ago, is why certain techniques work easier/better for Orientals compared to ‘Westerners’. That being their ‘physique’. Being over six-feet myself, competing against most opponents that were 5 or 6 inches shorter, reduced the target area for attack. Coming ‘down’ to them was awkward using my hands, so I relied on my feet. Shorter people seem to have a ‘natural speed’ for moves and strikes. I prefer a larger opponent, for that same reason. I attribute this to gravity on the body. Mental condition, aside! Just my own experience, of course.
This is real karate. He has Excellent insight into bunkai
Teruo Sano?
You shouldn't dismiss the idea of being able to learn how to control various types of energetic forces (call it chi or whatever you like) just because you currently cant see how such a thing is possible. In dismissing the possibility you are mentally giving up on discovering the ideas behind what makes such a thing possible. Everything we do in these bodies is an expression of an interaction with energetic forces. Even the triggering of a mechanism in the brain to interact with the bodies systems to make your finger twiddle is an energetic interaction. To say that it is impossible to learn of other ways to interact with our perceived reality and achieve energetic interaction that would be perceived by others as miraculous is just wrong. Remember, just because you cant currently see how something could be possible does not make said thing impossible.
Did a course with him around 2000, and it was excellent. I don't think you can criticise funakoshi and kano's influence too much though as if it wasn't for them karate and other martial arts wouldn't have spread around the world as it did. But maybe its time we all stop, and think and go back to the pre Japan ways of training. I've taken up jujitsu to supplement my karate as it's all pressure points, locks, throws and strangles.
The original ideas of Funakoshi and Kano were not so bad, it was after extreme sportification of these arts that they became useless and nothing more than just a game.
Same thing happened with European martial arts due to the progress of technology and civility. The need for personal self-defence became less needed. The arts of swordsmanship and grappling became sports in the form of fencing, wrestling and modern boxing.
Today there has been a revival on those subjects, going back to the original treatises and finding the real applications. Just like European historical martial arts, karate and other Asian martial arts need to do a review and go back to the original sources.
What I personally see most is not the application itself, but the methodology in which it is practiced. Too much rigid formality and not enough individual training. We should all take a page from muay thai and the way they train...
@teikarate
Good on you for being interested enough and open minded enough to do this
I appreciate when someone seeks the truth of Martial Arts, however, competition was never about real fighting. There are rules in every Martial Arts competition, it's no more than a game. Karate practitioners from Okinawan also compete a lot nowadays.
The problem never was the Japaneses, is that people look at competitions and wanna see some true fight, that's a total misunderstanding. By the way, Karate competitiors from 70's to 90's were by far much more scaring than any self defense coach.
Of course, I totally agree that true Karate Do is beyond self defense and tournaments.
look gary spiers up on .youtube. he was anthour karate legend who was trained in okinawan buy master miro higgonna and became the world toughest boncer and body guard in the world working in 119 citys world wide and trained loads people to become. mma . world champions.
I asked a senior japanese instructor about knife defenses. He said very little knife attacks in japan so not taught, go learn aikido he said.
I hope you have seen his "One strike: One kill" video. That was incredible!!😲
Great
There is this blind myth that if you are Japanese and a senior rank your talk the utter truth . Vince is absolutely correct in that there is a lot of bollocks being taught . I’ve seen demos from senior Japanese karateka with knives . It would be nearly impossible for them to get away with that methodology. A decent knife fighter would hurt them . Realism is the key and ferocity of technique . 28 years of policing taught me one thing . Bad people want to fuck you up and my karate training helped me up to a point . I refined my skills on that pavement arena . It’s generally a case of simple and fast aggressive takedowns and strikes . One hit and down when it’s the last resort . Certainly sounds like Asano in his past days . He was a vicious beggar .
I have always asked the question: if a knife is nothing more than an extension of the arm/hand, and we learn to defend against kicks and punches. Why does it become so difficult and complicated to defend against a knife? Just like a punch or kick a knife in a hand can only attack in so many angles.
Maybe the problem doesn't lays so much on how to defend against a knife, but on not knowing how to just in any other situation take someone out quickly and effectively.... How many people are taught and trained to knock out anyone in 3 seconds?
This is what i want
This dude rules! Hahaha badass dgaf attitude lol
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Had he trained in Okinawa rather than Japan he'd have saved himself years of frustration and confusions.
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The master talked about my secret thoughts about karate. I learned Tae Kwo Do in 1968-70 and was disappointed.
Katas are great provided they teach the application aka bunkai.
Yes ,Okinawan Karate is totally different then Japanese Karate ..
Even though Okinawan karate is closer to reality, they're still missing parts or understanding of the original applications.
Exactly. 🇺🇸🇮🇱🗽I have incorporated a knife in my karate practice. The knife is my claw and I carry it on me. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Hi I’m a mature martial artist who has had good fortune to have trained and travelled all over the world
I loved your explanation and knowledge
And totally agree
How do I contact you I’d love to hear more
His website is here; kissakikarate.com
Karate is about fighting your own demons and ego not about street fighting or western barbaric expression,,,it is a way of life to self development and expanding Human awareness and balance...how you use the tools acquire is a personal choice
Nice
Your name has been added to the list of actual Karateka. Not many of those still around.
What is it with dark alleys?
How long would it take for 6rh degree black belt
Those are honorary titles given by the organization in recognition of their contributions to the art. All you need is up to second degree, that's when you have become proficient enough. The rest is experience and acquired understanding of the art, which in a large organization are given in recognition of your work.
hi vince did you ever meet gary spiers mario karate legend some videos of gary on outube thanks
Dear Sir,
Any long journey, usually, has its ups and downs. Let me agree with your observation, that fighting is closer tophysics, distance angles, and timing, than to metphisics, like Chi-Qong etc.
However, let me disagree with your staements, that Cinese had no ideas of Meridians. Britain has not been on the map, when CHinese medical practiioners were already bus yto help their emperors to live as long as possible.
As to your fighting experience, there must be a distinction between Kata and Kumite. Kata is writhing in Block letters while Kumite is Handwriting.
As for the Japanese´s conversion the Okinawan martial art into sports served both sides:
the Okinawans were given the chanse to pass on their formerly fordbidden traditions, fobidden by the Japanese!, and the World was happy to see a most economical way of fighting based on distance, angles and timing!
All that without endangering people presenting the art wihtout getting killed or disabled!!!
Dear Sir, let me give my deepest appreciation for your having lasted so long and positively to martial arts. And alsoexpress my best wishes to health and happiness in your life.
Paul, 68, retired from MAs, due to health reasons, while remaining the fan of the MA movement.
Great Sensei, but I think the Pinan/Heian kata are a waste of time. They were introduced to teach school 🏫 children safe kata. The Naihanchi/Tekki kata were the first taught kata prior to that. And Motobu Sensei hated the Pinan kata too
But still, the heian katas have pretty lethal stuff when U learn the bunkai
The real art of real martial arts, not the sport, that has rules against most good ways to win the battle fast ! only a dance !...
That's why some people are calling sport karate today as ballet with violence!
That's tricky I just dont look back to react just throw a kick behind me smoke the gut.
Most intelligent people know that basics are just to teach proper body mechanics.
But the basics are the foundation of everything, and in all reality that is all that you really need the rest is just all practice.
Fear the man who has practice a technique a thousand times, than the man who has practice a thousand techniques one time.
@tatumergo3931 yes but you don't "fight" using expanded basic movements as in kata or line drills. Everything contracts to a fighting stance.
@@bilbobaggins4403. Glad you responded so I can elaborate.
The problem lies in what and how it is taught. So often the confusion is with what the movements in katas are and how they are applied. Take blocks for example; most people believe that they are parries against attacks, they couldn't be more wrong. Another one is the directions in kata's movements; often confused with the direction in which you face an attack. Nothing could be further from the truth, those movements are the direction in which you lead or take your opponent.
Basics or kihon practice is to perfect your natural instinctive ability to strike at someone or something, nothing more, nothing less. That practice will become instinctive under the stress of actual execution. Practicing in deep stances strengthen the body to more easily execute the technique in a natural posture.
A video can more easily explain this, that's why I suggest watching some of the work of Michael Nguyen and others like Iain Abernathy for example.
From my experience I knew of someone who was only taught one single technique and became quite proficient in its employment. As a streetfighter nonetheless.
@@tatumergo3931 obviously.
@@bilbobaggins4403 . Glad you agree...
I like a lot of what you are saying. However, you made the statement that meridians were invented by a Frenchman around the time of the Napoleonic wars.
What is that Frenchman's name?
What is your source of information?
Is that source a singular source?
Is the author of that source credible?
I believe Vince is referring to: A French diplomatic scholar, George Soulié de Morant brought acupuncture to Europe in the early 1900 s after serving in China [5]. He coined the terms meridian and energy. (Source Journal of Acupuncture and Meridian Studies Volume 3, Issue 2, June 2010, Pages 67-74). I am pretty certain that this is a generally accepted explanation by now. I've even read sources that state that 'qi' was a term originally used to describe the vapour rising from food.
@@jondsloan Thank you. Will do the research. However, what does not make sense to me is that the concept did not exist prior to him coining the term. The idea that there are energy channels, and that energy runs in a very specific direction through those channels, has to be older than Morant if he coined terms to refer to these point. The points have numbers which indicate the direction of the flow of energy. The concept, although expressed through completely different channels is in aruyveda, and called nadis.
Skyler I’ve read other sources over the years that claim that the practice is rooted in Ancient Greece and was more to do with mapping astronomical patterns into the body. It’s not that far removed with medieval ‘doctors’ thinking that blood, bile and phlegm were the key balances in the human body, in my opinion.
@@jondsloan The astronomical mappings make sense, as metaphysics in both the East and the West operate on the principle of "As above, so below." While the people of the ancient world came to a lot of erroneous conclusions about the body and the natural world, that principle has lead to the atomic theory, the atomic model, and is the basis for quantum physics. There is value in some of the old; however it is necessary to view all information with a critical mind. Like I said, this is good information, but I need to do more research before I draw any conclusions.
I'm with you on this point👌
Fact...you can't defend against a real knife atteck. There is a show where guys use a marker and attack each other with intent. No one survived.
I seen the video and the reality of that was that all those involved really didn't know how to deal with it. Much less understood the mechanics or how it works.
It begs to ask the question: if people are taught to defend against a punch or a kick, and a knife is nothing more than an extension of the arm or hand. Then why does it become so difficult to deal with it? Maybe the problem is with, people are not taught to knock out someone in 3 seconds...
@tatumergo3931 wrong. You're getting stabbed in a person knows what they're doing.
@@bilbobaggins4403 . That's a possibility that exists in a fight against a knife, that's why you have to avoid and eliminate all the variables beforehand. A knife attack is most dangerous when it's an ambush, then it becomes a matter of where you get stab or cut.
A Japanese aikido instructor was once asked " How do you defend yourself against a knife?".
Instructor: "Irimi"
Student "Irimi and then what?
Instructor "Irimi whatever you like"
I would take from this that if the irimi is correct you are in business, if it is wrong then it is probably curtains.
@williamweb9782 in other words...run..cause it doesn't work.
Sports Karate has destroyed the style.
1 cerfied,2stree fighter=2-4-1 pizza pizza
Ever heard of a knife ? The old Sikh way !!!!
I dont get where he got his information from. I read up to 100 books on martial arts (no joke) and the finger jab to the eyes and knee to the groin was in most of them. My karate teachers made us do those techniques all the time. Hiza geri (knee strike yo the groin) was one of the first techniques you got to learn. So no, what he says is totally wrong. Finger jabs to eyes, knees to groin and low kicks ARE a part of japanese karate. They are not even advanced techniques they are basic techniques you learn early on. Maybe his perticular school just sucked. By the way, you dont stick your fingers in your friends eyes when you sparr because you dont want to make them blind!
I did shotokan at a tough club for 8 years ( Enoeda sensei graded )
We used elbows and shin kicks all the time ( not full power elbows ,) but full power shin kicks
We did spinning ushiro geri / stepping in ushiro geri .In fact I once had to spar with a taekwondo guy and he was shocked when I hard kicked him in the shins.
@@John-ob7dh You trained with Enoeda? Impressive! I trained with Shingo Ohgami who was a direct student of the founder of wado ryu. Enoeda is a legend. Really cool you trained with him.
@@THEMARTIALARTSCHANNEL-bb4fx I was graded by him and attended 2 separate 5 day courses in London under Enoeda.Kawasoe.kanazawa.and 2 0r 3 others i cannot remember ( this was in the 70s ) Also our club had sensei Pauline Fuller ( said to have been the best female karateka in the world )
I sparred many times with her .Did you know Enoeda was directly descended from Samurai in his family .
He was nick named the Shotokan Tiger .Regards.
Have you read the medical implications of karate blows .
ruclips.net/video/ZJ2MS_GMFcI/видео.htmlsi=9H7lK0lprN-cG6on
The real karate - not even in Okinawa now - sadly.
Maybe Krav.
Your book is popular with many of my friends. Never on lone.
Trained with you back in the 80’s here in Perth, West Australia. Keep well.
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