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Adding some to your history, if you haven't read them already. Some old school Viggen stuff: www.collectair.co.uk/pdf/interview-hr.pdf (swedish ) blogg.forsvarsmakten.se/flygvapenbloggen/2014/06/06/verklighetsnara-taktikutveckling-av-jas-39-i-england-meatball-ur-en-pilots-perspektiv/ I think I have a correction: Raven ES-05 still uses GaAs elements. GaN is only used in the EW suite. The GaN elements are SAAB proprietary as far as I understand it. ES-05 might get an GaN upgrade down the road. The jamming capabilities are extensive. But the capacities far exceed basic spectral jamming. If the Gripen does not want to be radar locked, anything trying to will have a real, real hard time trying to do so. Gripen seldom plays with the EW suite in simulated combat. Swedes prefer to keep the EW card as unused as possible. As you've mentioned, at some point I think they got fed up with cocky Eurofighter Typhoon pilots and came full on EW on them, scaring the living crap out of them.
The only plane in the Red Flag cometition thst beat it was the F22 and only by a C hair and look at the differencr in cost at all levels initial cost, cost per hour, ridiculous maintenance costs....we are way further ahead with the Gripen E
@Peet Native man : Yes. It was from when they evaluated IRIS-T and HMDs. It's a story that tells the tale that combat effectiveness also depends very much on equipment. A two on one delta-canard, with something as brutal as the Typhoon on the other side usually ends in a loss for the lone aircraft. But since Gripen was evaluating IRIS-T and HMDs vs Sidewinders, that played a crucial role in being able to target and kill on extreme maneuvering, very much off sight. In real life, IRIS-T and HMDs have negated any ultra-low speed tactics of the Russian aircrafts. Even if they drop speed so that they end up on your tail, you can still target and kill them.
The JAS-39 Gripen has always been underrated by many simply because most people believe only USA, Russia and the cooperation between UK, Germany etc can make fighter airplanes. A lot of people always seem to forget that Sweden has always been at the forefront of technology when it comes to fighter airplanes. The Saab 35 Draken was way ahead of its time and to a certain extent, so was the Saab 37 Viggen.
The Draken was the first fighter aircraft to have the Supercruise ability, and the Viggen was the first to successfully integrate the cannards into a fighter, if that's not being ahead of it's time, I dunno what is.
the problem is not the plane, but the support in a war situasjon, Sweden do not make most of the parts, they are ordered in from diffrent nations. supporting the planes with parts in war, can be difficult, while a war in Europe often do not effect the US and vise versa . this is why many use American made planes, and not because they are better or not. + the American industry is big ,and not easely broken, Example in WW2 the Sherman tank was far from the best tank, petrol driven, only 75mm gun and so, on BUT they made i think about 40000 of them, so on 1 tiger tank there was maybe 10 sherman tanks fighting it.. an 11 million people industry vs 300million people industry.+ the part transfer in wartimes. this can be the diffrence between victory or loss. the plane itself is good.
@@ottoolsen9676 This reminds me of Romel's debrief by the high command after Kasserine... "We ran out of shells before the Americans ran out of tanks."
I really admire the Swede’s attitude to design of jets, they seem to get that sweet spot between cost and functionality. I wish the UK still had a large aerospace industry, mainly so we don’t have to rely on US equipment - it’s getting ridiculous now. We in the UK need to deal with our own security again.
Europe as a whole fell behind US with fighters (Europe completely ignored 5th gen domestically) and now its too late to catch up. Its good that Europe decided to buy a good aircraft to fill the gap, since developing a 5th gen wouldnt make sense time-wise (by the time an European fighter would be introduced, it wouldnt make a significant impact). However, Europe and Japan have decided to go forward with domestical design of 6th generation fighters, so dont worry, not everything will be American.
The Gripen is an example of well-matched requirements and means. The Swedes were realistic about what they could accomplish and then they executed brilliantly. IMO the UK's problem is that it still sees itself as a major player on the global stage, and it consequently sets the requirement bar higher than it can afford to develop on its own. We can already see that happening with Tempest IMO, and I fear for that program as a consequence.
I always admire people who take a different direction and produce something completely unique, which solves the same problem everyone else is dealing with. The Swedes, with their dispersal strategy and the small, (relatively) simple Gripen have done that.
12:50 - Small correction here, while it was indeed *for the Brazilian variant,* late last year, the Swedish air force decided to adopt the same Wide Area Display (WAD) for their aircraft. (Source: ruclips.net/video/WH6PTK4cVag/видео.html) The Gripen E/F is one of my Fav aircraft, such a small guy making all the big players run.
I found your mention of phyical stealth's downsides very interesting. It makes sense that any given physical stealth system will lose some advantage as defenses against it improve, so any stealth gap must be closed electronically. If so, then fully committing to electronic stealth on a simpler aircraft looks like a very smart approach.
I hope the Finns chooses Gripen, it would bring us closer to a Nordic union which would mean a really strong airforce. The US used to be an ally but not so much anymore.
At the very least I think Finland and Sweden should make a military alliance of our own. We have the same safety concerns, and we're finally bumping up military spending in Sweden.
Thanks for this very informative video! Good to see unbiased presentation and extra interesting to hear about red flag results! ALL (in general) Swedish engineers prefer to perform and show results. Ask yourself how this little country with 10 million people can dominate many technical fields? Just look at Koenigsegg and those guys who demolish rest of the super/hyper/mega car industry with serial production made and street legal cars! Thanks to the fact that Sweden is one of the least corrupt countries, then the innovation culture puts emphasis on being honest and demonstrate results! Not making Hollywood movies and throw shit on competitors!!! Remember 2005 when the Gotland Submarine sank the carrier "Ronald Reagan" repeatedly and all its accompanying escorts. A 100 million $ "tin can" took out a whole US fleet worth more than 10 billions plus the value of all escorting ships and take also into account all the fighter jets and helicopters on board on the obsolete carrier ship. Mighty US Navy had to lease this submarine and the whole Swedish crew for more than 2 (TWO) years to understand this phenomenon and to be able to upgrade US radars systems above and below water surface. It's not always the one with the biggest mouth or most corrupt mind set who wins! :)
To be fair USA already knew they were severely lacking in their ability to discover diesel-electric subs as they were tailored towards large (Russian) nuclear subs. They had consciously neglected that, as - if my memory serves me right - it was still believed by most at the time that diesel-electric subs were more or less obsolete. Still USA wanted to know exactly what they possibly could do. Even the Swedes were a bit nervous. The excessive went beyond anyone's wildest dreams however, and changed everything, as they say. Corruption is skyrocketing in Sweden though, so don't expect anything great the coming decades.
@@snetmotnosrorb3946 : OK, thanks for your explanation! Though, I would like to know from where you got that Sweden is corrupt? You have to differ their insane requirement less refugee and immigration politics from their almost 100% governmental transparency! www.transparency.org/cpi2019 In Sweden you can track each and every cent of your tax money. How much goes to public healthcare, schools, police, military, salaries and benefits to each and every politician, free money to each and every refugee or immigrant, free money to unemployed people (including people who don't want to work even if they got some job offers, the fake sickness or have some other lame excuse for "not being able" to work) etc
@@craigkdillon : My bad, I was actually totally wrong about Sweden. You are actually 100% correct! I was naive and brainwashed! No country can be that exceptional!! :) After Ericsson got caught by collaborating with ISIS and supporting CIA, I started to dig in more about Ericsson, ABB, Saab etc. Turned out that Sweden is one of the most corrupt countries in the regarding doing business abroad. I discovered that Sweden systematically done crimes in foreign countries where the Swedish companies doing business! Since the crimes were/are done abroad and with the justice system in Sweden no one can get charged and held responsible since the crimes were NOT made in Sweden! Without saying to much, but I recommend google any country where there has been or is any active military conflict and add Ericsson to that country name. You'll be surprised! Thanks for pointing out this, especially now when Sweden is heavily involved in Ukraine since many years ago. Check out Ericsson, ABB, Swedbank, SEB etc how they are connected to Ukraine. What can a country do if it has control of the systems for telecommunication and power supply plus flow of money? Let's see what Mr Putin will dig out now from Ukraine and use as extortion :)
Great vid. As soon you read something about the gripen online there is always the talk about a low T/W ratio, not why it doesnt need more power or anything about it's systems or great instant/constant turning speed
TW ratio might makes sense if you consider conventional designs, but the Gripen is far from conventional design (although maybe its starting to become one considering both the Eurofighter and the Rafale also go deltawing + canard)
It depends from the configuration. The Gripen was deliberately designed like this to have a simple and (relatively) cheap plane. It focuses on other elements to compensate this inferiority.
Millennium 7 * HistoryTech you clearly see a difference in airshows, when other planes including the Typhoon turn, they slide, clearly creating a high amount of induced drag. Gripen cut, like a hot knife in butter. It is so impressive to see, like classical music. Below 2000m it seems that the lower T/W is neutralised by this, at high altitudes it will slide like everybody else and is easy pray, maybe that is why Swedish fighters are so good at low altitude flying.
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Gripen is like a lil stingy fly, you hear n see it when it’s upon you n bout to sting ya, then it stings ya n then it’s gone. You don’t know where it came from n you don’t know where it went, you just know it’ll come back n sting ya again n again n again...
chris henzel, the Eurofighter would have looked like a twin-engined Gripen (see the BAe p.110 project) were not for the Germans over-promoting the now design based on the research data from the MBB-Rockwell X Plane. TVC was planned initially, but due to the complexity & budget of a two-engine design it was abandoned.
@Drew Peacock Gripens are wonderful as a budget point-defence fighter. I for one wished that they used the BAe p.110 as basis for the Eurofighter; it has every potential aerodynamic capabilities similar to that of the Gripen, but with additional safety of two engines and longer range. The current radar CS of the Gripen can be further reduced if they reshape the fuselage & intakes, while using stealthier weapons pods.
@Drew Peacock A Typhoon + Gripen fleet mix would be wonderful, but with the politicians and international politics murking things up, I doubt that will ever happen. The Typhoon makes a great interceptor / air superiority aircraft, while the Gripen's capabilities makes it suitable in supportive roles including surface strikes. But in a protracted warfare, the Gripen will provide more benefits per unit cost. In the end, all fighting aircrafts are just "missile / bomb" trucks; the more sorties they can make, the better the warfare outcome. In regards to the British Aerospace p. 110 (one of the early candidate designs for the EFA), you can find more info about it via a Google search. The agility of the aircraft is very similar to that of the Gripen, since both are similarly configured.
Absolutely and at only $4000. per flight hour. Any country that signs up for the F35 will go bankrupt paying $44000. per flight hour to keep them in the air so the don't get cob webs all over them. I consider them a joke at that price to have them in the air. Plus the stealth coating is now starting to peel off of them. It's just been one problem after another with the F35....No Thanks.
Absolutely, the Gripen E has so many advantages over the competition for Canada's new fighter it'almost comical snd there is literally no excuse if our government picks anything else. As a matter of fact, l think it would actually be criminal if they do. No excuses, l hope to see 88-100 Gripen E's in our airforce with no excuses. Nobody can compete with the package we have asked for and Saab is willing to provide. Built in Canada, by Canadian aerospace workers, you can't beat that.
Much as I agree, Trudeau's Liberals will dither and delay fighters until they're voted out. Tories get back in and buy F35s like they wanted to in the first place. Perfect world scenario: 50-60 F-35s and 80-100 Gripen E/F.
I l don't. think that will happen, the F35 is not even s competitive choice. The Gripen has a tiny radar signature almost as small ss the F35, but it's a lot more maneuverable than the F35 and faster too. Check out hoe much that pig costs to fly an hour compared to the Gripen @ $4000. hour. I think it's. about $35000. hour. We don't need what the F35 has to offer, it was designed for an Air Force that is attacking other countries, we have no need for that and if we did the electronic warfare suite in the Gripen hides us anyways...
@Joshua N. Ajang The RCAF did indeed have more than one type of fighter until the mid to late 1990s. We used to have CF18s in the Air Superiority/Intercept/Strike role, and CF5s in the CAS role. I don't recall the overlaps, but we were flying a mix of Voodoos, Starfighters, Canucks and Sabres.
The ECM capabillity is not at all surprising if you know your history and geograpy. Sweden was siting in the middle of the cold war. Had a nationwide jaming network designed to send soviet bommbers of target. Also sheltered the whole finish signal intellegence, and spyed on the germans with brittish harware during WW2. ;)
Joshua N. Ajang Perks and perils! Being smack in the middle between the eastern and western blocs, credible armed neutrality became an essential necessity in order to survive a war between the superpowers. At one point in the Cold War era, Sweden had the fourth largest air force in the world, and could mobilize one million men in 48 hours if necessary, ready to hold the borders from any aggressors. The idea was that anyone wanting to occupy or pass through Swedish territory should think both two and three times before trying.
Joshua N. Ajang Yes, very much so. It can use 800 x 25 meter stretches of road runways with ease. Unlike the Viggen, it doesn’t have a thrust reverser for the engine, but it does have very efficient wheel brakes. Also note how upon nose wheel touchdown the canards immediately swivel fully down to an almost 90 degree angle, acting both as large air brakes and putting extra downforce on the nose wheel, increasing its brake efficiency.
I think so and I also hope that Finland will go with the Gripen E and not the Super Hornet, which would be easiest to do as the Finnish Air force are currently using the F-18 Hornets.
@Joshua N. Ajang Well, with the current situation going on with the corona virus, perhaps a small country like Finland will have to postpone this whole project into the future due to the fact that that the small- and medium size businesses are going through a financial hell right now in Finland and the government have to shoot more and more money to them... several billions of euros, in order to save people's jobs and the economical wheels of Finland rolling... It's not easy anywhere these days.
I have a friend who worked as an engineer at SAAB and everyday he would see the test pilots stress testing the planes doing crazy maneuvers and he would just shrug and say ”nej, another day at the job”. Another co-worker was tasked with over seeing the test lab for the bird protection fence don’t know what it’s called) Basically he shot frozen chickens out of a Canon at 1000 km/h towards a running engine.. it sounded like a real fun job 😄
I like how SAAB Can make a better and CheaperJetfighter with their high wages and conditions using other countries parts and then people from those countries complain saying it s not really Swedish when they should be saying how come we can`t do it
Which fighters are more expensive than the Gripen E? F-35A has a much lower unit cost. Gripen E engine comes from the US, a GE F414G. Gripen E radar comes from Italy with US components, still no details on whether it's even operational. The IRST comes from Italy with US technology, and still doesn't even exist on any delivered Gripens to Brazil or Swedish Air Forces. Why? The ejection seat comes from UK, Martin-Baker, after major problems with Gripen C/D seats, including one uncommanded ejection. The 1553B data buses are outdated legacy computers, where from? Missiles are from US, Germany-UK. FLIR pods look like SNIPER or LITENING, US, additional cost to the airframe usually $1.5 million. The Gripen is more of a study in how to rip off suckers with an out-dated airframe using other people's major subsystems and technology, then slapping a big Saab logo on it and claiming it's the best.
@@LRRPFco52 Dude, you have any resentment against SAAB? Based in what you say, all others jet fighters are 100% developed and made with in house components, that is not true.
@@strikebr That's a hyperbole argument that doesn't hold up well. For example, US Navy has used British Martin-Baker ejection seats for generations. All F-35s use Martin-Baker ejection seats. The difference is, the US can make every subsystem in F-35s including ejection seats, but wanted more international participation to solidify the joint nature of investing in the success of the program when faced with traitors within Congress. Sweden doesn't have the option to make even the engine for any of her jet fighters, so she will always be subject to sourcing propulsion and other systems from friendly nations. This is nothing against Saab, just an industrial reality. Saab's main offenses are using cutout companies to bribe Brazil, Czechia, Hungary, and South Africa into purchasing Gripens as a measure of desperation to finance their company, knowing that this is their last domestic fighter airframe design.
It is amazing how well the Gripen can hold its own, and more, even against the most expensive of the jet fighters of the world. Agreed. Dollar for dollar, the Gripen reigns supreme.
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Very informative video! The new Gripens can carry 7 metric tonnes, and the Brazilian widescreen is adopted by the Swedish airforce and will be standard on Gripens from now on, unless a customer wants it in a more traditional way.
Some corrections are necessary. Gripen C/D first deployment to Red Flag Alaska was a Red Air participation, very rare. In that exercise, they worked with F-15Cs and F-16Cs in 2006. No F-22As were in attendance as the Raptor fleet was still in early build-up, tactics development, and training squadron formation. In Red Flag 13-2, I believe Gripens were part of Blue Air to practice strike missions. The only Blue Air unit tasked with A2A was an Air National Guard F-16C Block 42 Viper unit, the 125th TFS out of Oklahoma, working on an opportunity to do more A2A since USAF F-16Cs have always been strike focused, not A2A focused. There was also a SEAD profile F-16CJ unit from Spangdahlem, the 480th Fighter Squadron, working with US Navy EA-18Gs from NAS Whidbey Island. These units are tasked with carrying the huge AGM-88 HARM anti-radar missile to take out SAM sites so other strikers can pass through corridors to their targets for more deep interdiction. The other Blue Air units were B-1B, B-52H, F-15E, and F/A-18Es flying interdiction. Had any F-22As or F-35s been present in the Blue Air force mix vs Gripens, Gripens would just die and never know why, never have any opportunity to do anything, and gain almost zero training value or confidence in their abilities. I'm looking at the published Air Tasking Order and comparing it with every available photograph of Gripens at RF 13-2, and in every photo, Gripens are equipped with FLIR pods, fuel tanks, Captive IRIS-T on one wingtip, ACMI on the other, no AIM-120 CATMs. The only open weapons hardpoints are carrying 500LB LGBs or are empty. This supports what I've read from sources stating 13-2 was an opportunity for Gripens to train in a realistic area where they could employ more A2G and work as part of a coalition force against Red Air and ground targets.
That's why people still buy Volvo's and Saab's (u just can't kill those machines, build for cold cold weather, like the russians). Crazy it could compare with the F-22 :-)
The EW-suite can paint almost any picture you like. Beside normal spectral jamming it can reflect, create/simulate almost any radar signature. It can for example readily create multiple false fighter targets, effectively confusing attackers. This is the typical role of the DRFMs in any EW system. Gripen Arexis probably carries atleast a DRFM per exciter/reciever plus a couple of central ones. Which would mean 4 to 8 DRFMs (guesstimate), shared or not. Which is probably the highest number of DRFMs in any contemporary fighter, bar none. Each DRFM being fully capable by itself. This is more or less common knowledge. What is secret is the power output, sensitivity, spectral resolution, spectral spanning/folding etc. And probably the most secret of all is the digital signature library of aircrafts and countermeasure tactics. Passive range listening range of the Arexis system (or any good EW system) _far_ exceeds the range of normal radar systems by the virtues of physics. Any good EW system will know where a radar transmitter is at, way before you can target it. I would expect next generation of software to systems like Arexis to be like a "EW radar officer". Instead of the pilot taking active decisions on jamming the system can be put in an autonomous mode taking hundreds and thousands of intelligent countermeasure decisions every second. It would make radar targeting of such a system a living hell.
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Thanks for a great and informative channel! One thing i have observed when Gripen have been doing displays, is that it seems to loose very little energy (speed) when doing hi-G turns. This compared with other fighters. The combined wing configuration seems to contribute to this (almost like a modern slalom ski that curbs when tilted). If this is so, then this also, to some extent, would compensate for the T/W ratio. Do you have any comments to my thoughts?
Anders I linked above to Australian gov regarding the F-35 and there you can read that Gripen is best in class regarding instantaneous turn rate and loosing less drag than others
Great video! Simple explanation and to the point! Always thought single engine grippen was not good enough, but your video explains the other side of it. I'm convinced that the F16, f18, typhoon, Rafale and the likes are overrated and being sold at super inflated price with even less capability.
The Gripen is currently on a short list of fighters under consideration for Canada's F/A 18 A replacement program. Its smart, flexible, affordable, and designed to be easily up gradable. Given that the current government is known for making horrendous defense acquisition decisions I am not holding out that this magnificent aircraft will be selected but it certainly would be ideal for Canadian needs.
David Beattie don’t tease yourself, Canada’s short list only writes f35 and never had any other name of it. Plus not sure a single engine would ever be accepted by the caaf
A friend of mine who lives in Sweden told me that when they were flight testing the Gripens jamming system, (on a chase track and fight manouvre) his netflix movie disappeared from the TV screen. It certainly blocks / jams the wifi. 😃. The picture returned as soon as they were out of range.
He told me that he saw the fast howling chase with two planes and flashing lights from his living room window and all that happened at dusk. This town is known for Gripen flights both for testing and training. They would not use the Draken or Viggen would they. Then after 2 to 3 days there was a news paper report confirming just that he said, but he already knew that SAAB was testing a new jammer from other Internet sources. It took a while before the TV and WiFi started to work again after being jammed, he said.
The most tactically significant aspect of the repositioner is that it allows the Gripen to track a target while staying in that target's doppler notch (aka "beaming"). wrt resolution of the IRST video feed, it's important to recognize that the optical resolution of _all_ long-wave IRSTs are an order of magnitude worse that of an equivalent (same FoV, same aperture) visual-band camera by diffraction. That's why we don't see any "4K" IRSTs in use - to obtain that sort of resolution would require absurdly large apertures.
great video !!! as usual but you forgot to mention the electronic attack pod arexis, something very impressive. thales (rafale) is currently working on multirole antennas meaning the AESA could be used as radar, jammer and EA and spectra's antenna's could be emitting, jamming and detecting giving the rafale a 360° radar and jammer much larger then gripen. But the GaN will be late on the spectra suit first starting 2022 (at best) and the radar by 2030 (at worst). The EF is still without AESA...
Wallace Maia I was just referring to eajp. The rafale have or is getting everything by 2022. The only thing that’s coming late is the aesa radar that will also have electronic attack capability. It’s also getting drone control. This « gripen » doesn’t have it, nor will he get a stealth kit. ;)
@@jeanvaljean9293 Yes they are testing the pod...but on Gripen E it's fully integrated. saab.com/air/electronic-warfare/ew-systems-for-fighters/arexis/
@@jeanvaljean9293 The attack jammer pod is only meant for fighters that don't have this builtin capacity (F-18). Gripen E carries an equivalent of of an attack jammer pod in each wingtip. Plus all the extra equipment built in to the Arexis EW suite. Gripen E is a formidable EW fighter.
You briefly mentioned the recon over Libya, but there is much more to this story. I don't remember where I read this, but Sweden was invited to brief 5 eyes with their excellent recon intel.
Note: re read my comment and realized making comments when I’m tired.... well they don’t always express my thoughts well... I believe Boeing is working with Saab on the next 6 Gen aircraft (which it and Lockheed Martin will compete for both Navy and Air Force aircraft. I believe Saab will end up licensing technology to the Boeing and it will benefit both financially and in terms of expanded credibility in the advanced aircraft markets. I believe we could see a prototype flying in 3-5 years if for the Navy and less time of for the Air Force. It will be a 6 gen fighter by label only. Truthfully I believe it will be similar to the differences in the F-4 phantom and the F-15 C. That is, very considerable improvement but using of the shelf technologies used on the F-22, F-35 and Saab’s latest Gripen. I still believe the Gripen is the best solution for many nations today simply because it is more affordable to purchase and maintain. So many nations cannot afford to operate an f-35 much less an F-22. I truly don’t know how the Gripen would or could perform against the F-35 in a no restriction scenario at red flag. That is, can it (Gripen) truly compete with and win in unrestricted combat exercise with a true 5th gen fighter that has a great pilot and team working together (compete against f-35 or updated f-22’s. It’s going to be interesting to see what the next 5 years brings to all these manufacturers
I am not planning it, but I have some additional material that I did not use that could be packed in a short companion video. Considering the level of interest I will probably do it.
Yet another great video! Having seen Gripen-C's perform on several airshows it never failed to impress with very tight and sustained 9G turns and very rapid recovery after that. I've been a fan of this very nimble fighter ever since. I do wonder however, how Gripen E would fare against very low observables like the F-35, since it is said, that from certain angles and attitudes the frontal section of the F-35 reduces detection ranges by more than 70%. Wether that is a matter of fact or a salespitch, I don't know, but fpor argument's sake let's assume it is. We also know that the F-35 has great nose authority, similar or exceeding that of the F/A-18 Hornet and Rhino. That could mean, it has little trouble keeping its frontal section directed at an enemy at all times. Here's the question: could the Raven-radar resolve the detection range reduction sufficiently to get and maintain a lock on for weapons guidance, or would the lock-on be easily broken by deployment of countermeasures. All of that - of course - depending on the actual range between the two aircraft.. I know it's all very hypothetical and I'm not imlying anything here, as my expertise is falling short. I would love to hear your informed view on that question though.
01:42 that looks like a DRDO Netra on an Embraer ERJ-145 Here's to hoping that you do a video on ORCA and Tejas Mk 2 when HAL brings out the two new canard-delta wings (hopefully before I turn 80!)
It's worth noting that Leonardo, who build both the Gripen's radar and IRST, also build those of Typhoon, using the same technology but obviously larger, i.e. more TRMs.
Millenium 7: I have questions, mainly in terms of comparison with the F35. The Red Flag results are certainly interesting but it depends when it took place. The F35 has gotten quite a bit better in the past couple of years and the F22 is being updated with some capabilities developed for F35’s, as are some American legacy fighters. My questions come in three areas: 1.Jamming vs. Stealth. Are you saying that jamming essentially replaces Stealth functionally? I understand d that jamming is easier to update than structure of the aircraft, assuming that Stealth aircraft don't also employ jamming. Does Grippen jamming function as well against ground-based antiaircraft batteries? 2, Sensor networking. I’ve heard references to this with the Grippen. The F35 can share its radar information with other aircraft and some ground-based assets, meaning each pilot can see the whole battlefield on their radar. Does the Grippen have a function like this? I’ve also heard the Rafale has something along these lines. In terms of battlefield awareness, how does the Grippen stack up to the F35 to your knowledge? Incidentally, the F22 is being updated with some of these capabilities. 3. Seeing and firing in multiple directions in 3D. An F35 pilot has helmet technology that allows them to see in any direction spherically and fire in any direction. How close is the Grippen to that, and functionally how close does it need to be? Again, the F22 is being updated with the capability to fire in multiple directions, including behind the aircraft, though I don’t think spherically. This capability could change future Red Flag results. I understand the Grippen has certain advantages, primarily in cost of the aircraft itself and ease and cost of maintenance, though I understand they can’t currently be carrier-based, which two variants of the F35 can be. I have no trouble believing that a small country could develop state of the art military electronics - one glance at Israel proves that. As to why the US would give India a hard time about buying Grippens, that decision is less likely to be a strictly military decision than a business decision. This is especially true if foreign aid is involved - aid isn’t given in currency, it’s given in goods because goods mean profits and jobs go to American companies.
1. No it doesn't. Saab made the strategic choice of emphasizing EW because "classic" stealth is slowly losing its edge so it is not worth investing too much. 2. Gripen and Rafale both feature a level of data sharing similar to the F-35. The details are secret as usual. Watch the videos about the Rafale for further details. 3. Fire in any direction is of limited use if you are not using a long burner like the Meteor because the weapon loses an enormous amount of energy. It is possible though. I don't think that the helmet in Gripen and Rafale is as sophisticated as in the F35, but there is nothing in principle limiting its capacity.
Millennium 7 * HistoryTech If firing in any direction is of limited use, why do you discuss firing over the shoulder as a feature of the Gripen? (This is not an argument, it’s a question)
@@koshersalaami The pilot can help his launched missile find its way to the target more exactly by providing data collected by the fighters frontal radar. If the radar can "see" sideways that means the fighter does not have to fly in the direction of the missile and the target to give directional updates to the missile. Which is a really neat capability to have.
kossization This doesn’t address my last question. I know intuitively why it’s a neat capability. However, Millennium 7 said “Fire in any direction is of limited use if you are not using a long burner like the Meteor because the weapon loses an enormous amount of energy.” But he also talked during the videos about how firing behind the Gripen was valuable. It can’t be valuable in the Gripen but not in the F35, so I’m asking for clarification.
Red Flag in 2006 was in Alaska, 2013 was at Nellis. The F-35 was not present in either of those. Don’t think US allow non US presence when the F-35 participates. They don’t want to risk any intel leak regarding the performance and the Eurocanards has shown to be difficult to match. Different cultures different tactics. This is why Red Flag is so great.
I love the Grippen but in South Africa the outgoing Cheetah could detect a Grippen before the Grippen detected the Cheetah. The Cheetah had a more powerful pulse-doppler multi-mode radar (ELTA). The Cheetah was also fitted with a data link and updated versions of the helmet-mounted sight, HUD and good HOTAS controls. The EW suite incorporated a missile approach warning system and radar warning receivers, while the aircraft's self-protection system, which consisted of electronic jammers and chaff/flare dispensers that were automatically activated. The Cheetah was a good interceptor/fighter though but was very expensive to operate.
@Niclas Eriksson I knew an engineer who worked on both when the SAAF just received the Gripen. He informed me of how the Cheetah could detect the Gripen before the Gripen could detect the Chetaah. Its been a few years so maybe they have upgraded the Gripen since
I'm no aircraft expert, but it sounds plausible. The older versions of the PS-05/A radar on the Gripen only has a range of 90-100 kilometers against a larger fighter. The Cheetah doesn't loook larger than a Gripen, so if it has even the slightest advantage in radar power it's possible that it could detect a Gripen first, assuming the Gripen didn't use its EW-suite. The newest upgrade of the PS-05/A has 2.5 times the range of the older versions, but as I recall it South Africa hasn't upgraded their Gripens in a while. No substantial upgrades anyway.
I think this is a good example of why Red Flag is so valuable. We train with or allies and mix and match good guys and bad guys to provide realistic, and fluid, training. We all bring our best and try to surprise our allies. Every one learn and we all get better. China and Russia are watching.
i hoped that the Netherlands would buy 140 gripens. The new fighterjet must have the same rola as the F-16. It became the f-35 but they compaline about the price, it become cheaper and cheaper, but still a lot. 100 f-35 and 140 grioens would be perfect.
I would like to make some questions, maybe you could know the answer: Do you if the Gripen electronic warfare kit has some method to detect infra red guided missiles? F-35 uses DAS which seems very cool. The Mirrage 2000 also had an infra red detector for missiles. Another question: I've heard that beyond the speed of sound the plane's control surfaces act inverted sometimes. Could you speak something about that?
Yes, the Gripen has missile warning sensors. In the video, look at the pictures at the end and you will notice them. Control surfaces inversion is a real thing, even if today is no longer a problem. Too long for a comment, though. Thanks for watching!
@@Karl-Benny IR sensors sense heat - both on an aircraft to sense missiles and on missiles to sense an aircraft - there's no broadcast IR signal from a missile to find an aircraft like for radar missiles (either onboard or relying on the radar emitter on a friendly aircraft painting the target) that the target aircraft can detect.
@@michaeltempsch5282 I agree as far as I can tell there is no way to detect IR-Tracking since it is a passive sensor that does not emit anything. Though I guess it is possible to detect incoming missiles. And some systems also use a tracking radar to give the missile the general direction to fly to until it is close enough to track with IR.
@@mcgeufer You are correct. IR Tracking is seeing the exhaust/heat of an approaching missile or plane and warning the pilot. There are a few types of warning receivers out there. The basic IR warning is just a light to warn you to "look around." The second version gives a direction to the IR Signature so you know which way to look. The most advanced system also gives range and in the most sophisticated systems (F35?) it will try to identify the threat based on its "IR Profile" [unique heat signature]. The newer Infrared/digital imaging systems have both standard imaging (up to X100 magnification) and both thermal and IR imaging in them (the combination of thermal & Passive IR is known as Infrared FUSION and you can see the new googles used in the movie SICARIO). This system is completely PASSIVE and cannot be detected. It is now being used to pass targeting information to IR seeking missiles like the Stinger, Sidewinder, and all the Infrared-guided EU missiles.
The Gripen has crossed the sword with other modern fighters. How did it do?
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Adding some to your history, if you haven't read them already.
Some old school Viggen stuff: www.collectair.co.uk/pdf/interview-hr.pdf
(swedish ) blogg.forsvarsmakten.se/flygvapenbloggen/2014/06/06/verklighetsnara-taktikutveckling-av-jas-39-i-england-meatball-ur-en-pilots-perspektiv/
I think I have a correction:
Raven ES-05 still uses GaAs elements. GaN is only used in the EW suite. The GaN elements are SAAB proprietary as far as I understand it. ES-05 might get an GaN upgrade down the road.
The jamming capabilities are extensive. But the capacities far exceed basic spectral jamming.
If the Gripen does not want to be radar locked, anything trying to will have a real, real hard time trying to do so.
Gripen seldom plays with the EW suite in simulated combat. Swedes prefer to keep the EW card as unused as possible.
As you've mentioned, at some point I think they got fed up with cocky Eurofighter Typhoon pilots and came full on EW on them, scaring the living crap out of them.
The only plane in the Red Flag cometition thst beat it was the F22 and only by a C hair and look at the differencr in cost at all levels initial cost, cost per hour, ridiculous maintenance costs....we are way further ahead with the Gripen E
@Peet Native man : Yes. It was from when they evaluated IRIS-T and HMDs. It's a story that tells the tale that combat effectiveness also depends very much on equipment. A two on one delta-canard, with something as brutal as the Typhoon on the other side usually ends in a loss for the lone aircraft. But since Gripen was evaluating IRIS-T and HMDs vs Sidewinders, that played a crucial role in being able to target and kill on extreme maneuvering, very much off sight. In real life, IRIS-T and HMDs have negated any ultra-low speed tactics of the Russian aircrafts. Even if they drop speed so that they end up on your tail, you can still target and kill them.
how many kills did the Gripen get in this red flag total?
He does a very good job of explaining everything he can about the Gripen. It's a wonder the Saab PR department hasn't hired him yet.
The JAS-39 Gripen has always been underrated by many simply because most people believe only USA, Russia and the cooperation between UK, Germany etc can make fighter airplanes.
A lot of people always seem to forget that Sweden has always been at the forefront of technology when it comes to fighter airplanes.
The Saab 35 Draken was way ahead of its time and to a certain extent, so was the Saab 37 Viggen.
You obesely forget France but "most people believe only USA, Russia and the cooperation between UK, Germany etc can make fighter airplanes" ;)
The Draken was the first fighter aircraft to have the Supercruise ability, and the Viggen was the first to successfully integrate the cannards into a fighter, if that's not being ahead of it's time, I dunno what is.
verdebusterAP not the new version apparently the test in finland showed problems
the problem is not the plane, but the support in a war situasjon, Sweden do not make most of the parts, they are ordered in from diffrent nations. supporting the planes with parts in war, can be difficult, while a war in Europe often do not effect the US and vise versa . this is why many use American made planes, and not because they are better or not. + the American industry is big ,and not easely broken, Example in WW2 the Sherman tank was far from the best tank, petrol driven, only 75mm gun and so, on BUT they made i think about 40000 of them, so on 1 tiger tank there was maybe 10 sherman tanks fighting it.. an 11 million people industry vs 300million people industry.+ the part transfer in wartimes. this can be the diffrence between victory or loss. the plane itself is good.
@@ottoolsen9676 This reminds me of Romel's debrief by the high command after Kasserine...
"We ran out of shells before the Americans ran out of tanks."
This is a true gem of a channel and i'm glad I found it.
Much obliged!
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I really admire the Swede’s attitude to design of jets, they seem to get that sweet spot between cost and functionality. I wish the UK still had a large aerospace industry, mainly so we don’t have to rely on US equipment - it’s getting ridiculous now. We in the UK need to deal with our own security again.
You do realise most of the technology in the Gripen is from the UK and US right?
Europe as a whole fell behind US with fighters (Europe completely ignored 5th gen domestically) and now its too late to catch up. Its good that Europe decided to buy a good aircraft to fill the gap, since developing a 5th gen wouldnt make sense time-wise (by the time an European fighter would be introduced, it wouldnt make a significant impact). However, Europe and Japan have decided to go forward with domestical design of 6th generation fighters, so dont worry, not everything will be American.
The Gripen is an example of well-matched requirements and means. The Swedes were realistic about what they could accomplish and then they executed brilliantly.
IMO the UK's problem is that it still sees itself as a major player on the global stage, and it consequently sets the requirement bar higher than it can afford to develop on its own. We can already see that happening with Tempest IMO, and I fear for that program as a consequence.
I always admire people who take a different direction and produce something completely unique, which solves the same problem everyone else is dealing with. The Swedes, with their dispersal strategy and the small, (relatively) simple Gripen have done that.
Great presentation! Thank's for the quality content. I am so proud of the Gripen - such an underrated little bird of prey.
Oh! The thumbnail’s Gripen has the Hungarian Army’s flag! :D
Anyway, hello from Hungary! 🇭🇺
12:50 - Small correction here, while it was indeed *for the Brazilian variant,* late last year, the Swedish air force decided to adopt the same Wide Area Display (WAD) for their aircraft. (Source: ruclips.net/video/WH6PTK4cVag/видео.html)
The Gripen E/F is one of my Fav aircraft, such a small guy making all the big players run.
True was a mistake of mine, thanks.
@@Millennium7HistoryTech and this WAD is produced in Brasil to!
@@RicardoSchewe The WAD, the HUD and the HMD Helmet Mounted Display. All three systems are Made in Brazil.
@@strikebr Obrigado! from Sweden :)
I found your mention of phyical stealth's downsides very interesting. It makes sense that any given physical stealth system will lose some advantage as defenses against it improve, so any stealth gap must be closed electronically. If so, then fully committing to electronic stealth on a simpler aircraft looks like a very smart approach.
I hope the Finns chooses Gripen, it would bring us closer to a Nordic union which would mean a really strong airforce. The US used to be an ally but not so much anymore.
At the very least I think Finland and Sweden should make a military alliance of our own. We have the same safety concerns, and we're finally bumping up military spending in Sweden.
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@@Red0100 The worst thing can happen and I hope Denmark and Norway realize it too. Russia is a mafia state, we need to prepare.
Nordic union??? Yea kee dreaming
@@efirizaki5656 Dreaming yes, but it would be a great idea. Things are moving so rapidly so let's see what happens.
Terrific video !!
Thank you.
The Gripen would be such a good choice for Canada.
Thank goodness Canada has chosen the JAS-29 Gripen as the fighter to replace the F/A-18.
Thanks for this very informative video! Good to see unbiased presentation and extra interesting to hear about red flag results!
ALL (in general) Swedish engineers prefer to perform and show results. Ask yourself how this little country with 10 million people can dominate many technical fields?
Just look at Koenigsegg and those guys who demolish rest of the super/hyper/mega car industry with serial production made and street legal cars!
Thanks to the fact that Sweden is one of the least corrupt countries, then the innovation culture puts emphasis on being honest and demonstrate results! Not making Hollywood movies and throw shit on competitors!!!
Remember 2005 when the Gotland Submarine sank the carrier "Ronald Reagan" repeatedly and all its accompanying escorts. A 100 million $ "tin can" took out a whole US fleet worth more than 10 billions plus the value of all escorting ships and take also into account all the fighter jets and helicopters on board on the obsolete carrier ship. Mighty US Navy had to lease this submarine and the whole Swedish crew for more than 2 (TWO) years to understand this phenomenon and to be able to upgrade US radars systems above and below water surface.
It's not always the one with the biggest mouth or most corrupt mind set who wins! :)
To be fair USA already knew they were severely lacking in their ability to discover diesel-electric subs as they were tailored towards large (Russian) nuclear subs. They had consciously neglected that, as - if my memory serves me right - it was still believed by most at the time that diesel-electric subs were more or less obsolete. Still USA wanted to know exactly what they possibly could do. Even the Swedes were a bit nervous. The excessive went beyond anyone's wildest dreams however, and changed everything, as they say.
Corruption is skyrocketing in Sweden though, so don't expect anything great the coming decades.
@@snetmotnosrorb3946 : OK, thanks for your explanation!
Though, I would like to know from where you got that Sweden is corrupt?
You have to differ their insane requirement less refugee and immigration politics from their almost 100% governmental transparency!
www.transparency.org/cpi2019
In Sweden you can track each and every cent of your tax money. How much goes to public healthcare, schools, police, military, salaries and benefits to each and every politician, free money to each and every refugee or immigrant, free money to unemployed people (including people who don't want to work even if they got some job offers, the fake sickness or have some other lame excuse for "not being able" to work) etc
@@snetmotnosrorb3946 what darkweb sites are you reading to believe that sweden is skyrocketing in corruption?
@@KimJakab We can know that Sweden is corrupt because
Russia tells us so.
Very reliable.
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@@craigkdillon : My bad, I was actually totally wrong about Sweden. You are actually 100% correct! I was naive and brainwashed! No country can be that exceptional!! :)
After Ericsson got caught by collaborating with ISIS and supporting CIA, I started to dig in more about Ericsson, ABB, Saab etc. Turned out that Sweden is one of the most corrupt countries in the regarding doing business abroad. I discovered that Sweden systematically done crimes in foreign countries where the Swedish companies doing business! Since the crimes were/are done abroad and with the justice system in Sweden no one can get charged and held responsible since the crimes were NOT made in Sweden!
Without saying to much, but I recommend google any country where there has been or is any active military conflict and add Ericsson to that country name. You'll be surprised!
Thanks for pointing out this, especially now when Sweden is heavily involved in Ukraine since many years ago. Check out Ericsson, ABB, Swedbank, SEB etc how they are connected to Ukraine. What can a country do if it has control of the systems for telecommunication and power supply plus flow of money?
Let's see what Mr Putin will dig out now from Ukraine and use as extortion :)
Great vid. As soon you read something about the gripen online there is always the talk about a low T/W ratio, not why it doesnt need more power or anything about it's systems or great instant/constant turning speed
TW ratio might makes sense if you consider conventional designs, but the Gripen is far from conventional design (although maybe its starting to become one considering both the Eurofighter and the Rafale also go deltawing + canard)
The E variant will have a t/w of about 1.12-15 i believe
It depends from the configuration. The Gripen was deliberately designed like this to have a simple and (relatively) cheap plane. It focuses on other elements to compensate this inferiority.
Millennium 7 * HistoryTech you clearly see a difference in airshows, when other planes including the Typhoon turn, they slide, clearly creating a high amount of induced drag. Gripen cut, like a hot knife in butter. It is so impressive to see, like classical music. Below 2000m it seems that the lower T/W is neutralised by this, at high altitudes it will slide like everybody else and is easy pray, maybe that is why Swedish fighters are so good at low altitude flying.
Fantastic work breaking down the key aspects of Gripen, you earned yourself a new subscriber
Just like their subs.....world class!
And very nice presentation and channel :D
The most detailed aerospace channel on RUclips. Thank You.
This guy is a legend. Awesome video I watched 10 times and still good.
As a Swede, living in a town where they test the new Gripen E model, I to say the least am proud of my nations airforce!
Yeah! Gripen!
and Im also proud of Sweden's achievments and all of it while keeping itself neutral... you guys are amazing! Love and respect from Brazil!!!
Wow!
This is the first video i've seen from your channel, andi must say it's a Gem!!
Channels like your's is what makes youtube so interesting and fun, thank's.
Oh, by the way, i used to live in Trollhättan in the 80's (when volvo flygmotor did design the improved re heater for the RM12).
I still remember hearing the test runs at night!!
Wow! What a great video. I watched part 1 as well, super! You've got a new subscriber!
Thank you!
Gripen is like a lil stingy fly, you hear n see it when it’s upon you n bout to sting ya, then it stings ya n then it’s gone. You don’t know where it came from n you don’t know where it went, you just know it’ll come back n sting ya again n again n again...
And that it stings as if it was a yellow jacket wasp with the stealth of a gnat.
Just use the fly repellent spray on it and you are good
@@SonsOfLorgar Ever heard of AREXIS EW suite?...and Gripen has very low RCS...
@@johnraina4828 Well you need to know were it is first :-))))
As a Brit I always thought the RAF should of gone for the Gripen instead of the F-35
Drew Peacock the F35’s are technically RAF fighters with some Royal Navy pilots in them until they get enough numbers to reform Royal Navy squadrons
chris henzel, the Eurofighter would have looked like a twin-engined Gripen (see the BAe p.110 project) were not for the Germans over-promoting the now design based on the research data from the MBB-Rockwell X Plane. TVC was planned initially, but due to the complexity & budget of a two-engine design it was abandoned.
Typhoon has a higher capability level than Gripen for air to air combat but needs good long air fields and costs more.
@Drew Peacock Gripens are wonderful as a budget point-defence fighter. I for one wished that they used the BAe p.110 as basis for the Eurofighter; it has every potential aerodynamic capabilities similar to that of the Gripen, but with additional safety of two engines and longer range. The current radar CS of the Gripen can be further reduced if they reshape the fuselage & intakes, while using stealthier weapons pods.
@Drew Peacock A Typhoon + Gripen fleet mix would be wonderful, but with the politicians and international politics murking things up, I doubt that will ever happen. The Typhoon makes a great interceptor / air superiority aircraft, while the Gripen's capabilities makes it suitable in supportive roles including surface strikes. But in a protracted warfare, the Gripen will provide more benefits per unit cost. In the end, all fighting aircrafts are just "missile / bomb" trucks; the more sorties they can make, the better the warfare outcome.
In regards to the British Aerospace p. 110 (one of the early candidate designs for the EFA), you can find more info about it via a Google search. The agility of the aircraft is very similar to that of the Gripen, since both are similarly configured.
Sounds like "The little fighter that could".
Absolutely and at only $4000. per flight hour. Any country that signs up for the F35 will go bankrupt paying $44000. per flight hour to keep them in the air so the don't get cob webs all over them. I consider them a joke at that price to have them in the air. Plus the stealth coating is now starting to peel off of them. It's just been one problem after another with the F35....No Thanks.
These is exactly why I wish Canada would drop any US offering and just buy the dam Gripen!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Absolutely, the Gripen E has so many advantages over the competition for Canada's new fighter it'almost comical snd there is literally no excuse if our government picks anything else. As a matter of fact, l think it would actually be criminal if they do. No excuses, l hope to see 88-100 Gripen E's in our airforce with no excuses. Nobody can compete with the package we have asked for and Saab is willing to provide. Built in Canada, by Canadian aerospace workers, you can't beat that.
Much as I agree, Trudeau's Liberals will dither and delay fighters until they're voted out. Tories get back in and buy F35s like they wanted to in the first place.
Perfect world scenario: 50-60 F-35s and 80-100 Gripen E/F.
I l don't. think that will happen, the F35 is not even s competitive choice. The Gripen has a tiny radar signature almost as small ss the F35, but it's a lot more maneuverable than the F35 and faster too. Check out hoe much that pig costs to fly an hour compared to the Gripen @ $4000. hour. I think it's. about $35000. hour. We don't need what the F35 has to offer, it was designed for an Air Force that is attacking other countries, we have no need for that and if we did the electronic warfare suite in the Gripen hides us anyways...
@Joshua N. Ajang The RCAF did indeed have more than one type of fighter until the mid to late 1990s. We used to have CF18s in the Air Superiority/Intercept/Strike role, and CF5s in the CAS role.
I don't recall the overlaps, but we were flying a mix of Voodoos, Starfighters, Canucks and Sabres.
@Joshua N. Ajang Not entirely.
This channel is fantastic - in depth analysis, easy & clear to listen to, quality production - my new favourite aviation channel.
The ECM capabillity is not at all surprising if you know your history and geograpy. Sweden was siting in the middle of the cold war. Had a nationwide jaming network designed to send soviet bommbers of target. Also sheltered the whole finish signal intellegence, and spyed on the germans with brittish harware during WW2. ;)
Joshua N. Ajang Perks and perils! Being smack in the middle between the eastern and western blocs, credible armed neutrality became an essential necessity in order to survive a war between the superpowers. At one point in the Cold War era, Sweden had the fourth largest air force in the world, and could mobilize one million men in 48 hours if necessary, ready to hold the borders from any aggressors. The idea was that anyone wanting to occupy or pass through Swedish territory should think both two and three times before trying.
@Joshua N. Ajang Yes. It does regular exercises landing on regular roads.
Joshua N. Ajang Yes, very much so. It can use 800 x 25 meter stretches of road runways with ease. Unlike the Viggen, it doesn’t have a thrust reverser for the engine, but it does have very efficient wheel brakes. Also note how upon nose wheel touchdown the canards immediately swivel fully down to an almost 90 degree angle, acting both as large air brakes and putting extra downforce on the nose wheel, increasing its brake efficiency.
@Joshua N. Ajang 800x16 m is enough for Gripen...
ruclips.net/video/2-2Xde54xz4/видео.html
@Joshua N. Ajang Gripen E wingspan is ~8.7m Gripen A-D is 8.4m
It's as small as a WW2 Fighter.
Great presentation boss. I think Canada's new fighter should be the Gripen.
Thanks!
Agreed
I think so and I also hope that Finland will go with the Gripen E and not the Super Hornet, which would be easiest to do as the Finnish Air force are currently using the F-18 Hornets.
@Joshua N. Ajang
Well, with the current situation going on with the corona virus, perhaps a small country like Finland will have to postpone this whole project into the future due to the fact that that the small- and medium size businesses are going through a financial hell right now in Finland and the government have to shoot more and more money to them... several billions of euros, in order to save people's jobs and the economical wheels of Finland rolling... It's not easy anywhere these days.
@@CaptainDangeax at least if you don't have the resources to spend on air refuelling capacity.
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I have a friend who worked as an engineer at SAAB and everyday he would see the test pilots stress testing the planes doing crazy maneuvers and he would just shrug and say ”nej, another day at the job”.
Another co-worker was tasked with over seeing the test lab for the bird protection fence don’t know what it’s called)
Basically he shot frozen chickens out of a Canon at 1000 km/h towards a running engine.. it sounded like a real fun job 😄
The famous "broiler cannon".
Great content and your research and knowledge is amazing! Learnt a lot!
Verrrrryyyyyy Niiiiiiicccceeee: Amazing work! you keep it up I watch to the the end :)
I like how SAAB Can make a better and CheaperJetfighter with their high wages and conditions using other countries parts and then
people from those countries complain saying it s not really Swedish when they should be saying how come we can`t do it
swedish culture has been very utilitarian for quite some time. KISS principle, value-for-money and all that...
Which fighters are more expensive than the Gripen E?
F-35A has a much lower unit cost.
Gripen E engine comes from the US, a GE F414G.
Gripen E radar comes from Italy with US components, still no details on whether it's even operational.
The IRST comes from Italy with US technology, and still doesn't even exist on any delivered Gripens to Brazil or Swedish Air Forces. Why?
The ejection seat comes from UK, Martin-Baker, after major problems with Gripen C/D seats, including one uncommanded ejection.
The 1553B data buses are outdated legacy computers, where from?
Missiles are from US, Germany-UK.
FLIR pods look like SNIPER or LITENING, US, additional cost to the airframe usually $1.5 million.
The Gripen is more of a study in how to rip off suckers with an out-dated airframe using other people's major subsystems and technology, then slapping a big Saab logo on it and claiming it's the best.
@French Street Don´t he is an idiot who don´t know shit. The F-35 most certainly isn´t cheaper, it´s a bloated fiasco.
@@LRRPFco52 Dude, you have any resentment against SAAB?
Based in what you say, all others jet fighters are 100% developed and made with in house components, that is not true.
@@strikebr That's a hyperbole argument that doesn't hold up well. For example, US Navy has used British Martin-Baker ejection seats for generations. All F-35s use Martin-Baker ejection seats. The difference is, the US can make every subsystem in F-35s including ejection seats, but wanted more international participation to solidify the joint nature of investing in the success of the program when faced with traitors within Congress.
Sweden doesn't have the option to make even the engine for any of her jet fighters, so she will always be subject to sourcing propulsion and other systems from friendly nations. This is nothing against Saab, just an industrial reality.
Saab's main offenses are using cutout companies to bribe Brazil, Czechia, Hungary, and South Africa into purchasing Gripens as a measure of desperation to finance their company, knowing that this is their last domestic fighter airframe design.
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Top quality as usual!
Brasil chosen a really really good and affordable fighter. And it will be produced here in the future.
I never subscribed faster to any channel ever!
That was informative and fun to watch, I am surprised!
Greetings from sweden. This was a wery nice and informative video.
I didn't realise Gripen was such a powerhouse, fascinating!
Best budget jet fighter in the world. The later F-16 blocks come close.
It is amazing how well the Gripen can hold its own, and more, even against the most expensive of the jet fighters of the world. Agreed. Dollar for dollar, the Gripen reigns supreme.
Sir, you are excellent at what you do and it took me three seconds to subscribe to your channel!
Your channel will grow believe me, your subscriber number should be 12 million instead of 12 thousand! :)
Now we know what happens when the Swedes play Wars in the air with the Yankees, can you please allso make a video what happened when they played wars with them under water with their little U-boat Gotland too? :)
Amazing videos with zero or very few errors. Great job
The Gripen E seems like an amazing yet underappreciated plane. Very informative video. ❤🇸🇪
Friking A, so much awesome info, thx : )
I agree with the comment below Canada should purchase the Gripne, unfortunately i think Lockheeds lawyers would have something to say. about that.
F-15X is the best choice for Canada
Very informative video! The new Gripens can carry 7 metric tonnes, and the Brazilian widescreen is adopted by the Swedish airforce and will be standard on Gripens from now on, unless a customer wants it in a more traditional way.
Thanks for pointing out. I missed that. I stand corrected.
@@Millennium7HistoryTech no worries it was a tiny mistake, can happen to the best of us. I like your Gripen videos! 😊👍
Yes, I hope Canada gets them. These planes are super. I was there...
Man, you just can't screw with Swedish planes, or their ability to use them anywhere and everywhere.
Hoping Canada chooses the Gripen as their next fighter. It's starting to look like the jet to buy!
I have come to love the Gripen. Thank you!
Very informative, keep them coming.
Some corrections are necessary. Gripen C/D first deployment to Red Flag Alaska was a Red Air participation, very rare. In that exercise, they worked with F-15Cs and F-16Cs in 2006. No F-22As were in attendance as the Raptor fleet was still in early build-up, tactics development, and training squadron formation.
In Red Flag 13-2, I believe Gripens were part of Blue Air to practice strike missions. The only Blue Air unit tasked with A2A was an Air National Guard F-16C Block 42 Viper unit, the 125th TFS out of Oklahoma, working on an opportunity to do more A2A since USAF F-16Cs have always been strike focused, not A2A focused.
There was also a SEAD profile F-16CJ unit from Spangdahlem, the 480th Fighter Squadron, working with US Navy EA-18Gs from NAS Whidbey Island. These units are tasked with carrying the huge AGM-88 HARM anti-radar missile to take out SAM sites so other strikers can pass through corridors to their targets for more deep interdiction.
The other Blue Air units were B-1B, B-52H, F-15E, and F/A-18Es flying interdiction.
Had any F-22As or F-35s been present in the Blue Air force mix vs Gripens, Gripens would just die and never know why, never have any opportunity to do anything, and gain almost zero training value or confidence in their abilities.
I'm looking at the published Air Tasking Order and comparing it with every available photograph of Gripens at RF 13-2, and in every photo, Gripens are equipped with FLIR pods, fuel tanks, Captive IRIS-T on one wingtip, ACMI on the other, no AIM-120 CATMs.
The only open weapons hardpoints are carrying 500LB LGBs or are empty.
This supports what I've read from sources stating 13-2 was an opportunity for Gripens to train in a realistic area where they could employ more A2G and work as part of a coalition force against Red Air and ground targets.
Can you point me to some sources? Is there a Red Flag catalog somewhere? The sources I saw have always been controversial.
That's why people still buy Volvo's and Saab's (u just can't kill those machines, build for cold cold weather, like the russians). Crazy it could compare with the F-22 :-)
The EW-suite can paint almost any picture you like. Beside normal spectral jamming it can reflect, create/simulate almost any radar signature.
It can for example readily create multiple false fighter targets, effectively confusing attackers. This is the typical role of the DRFMs in any EW system.
Gripen Arexis probably carries atleast a DRFM per exciter/reciever plus a couple of central ones.
Which would mean 4 to 8 DRFMs (guesstimate), shared or not. Which is probably the highest number of DRFMs in any contemporary fighter, bar none. Each DRFM being fully capable by itself.
This is more or less common knowledge. What is secret is the power output, sensitivity, spectral resolution, spectral spanning/folding etc.
And probably the most secret of all is the digital signature library of aircrafts and countermeasure tactics.
Passive range listening range of the Arexis system (or any good EW system) _far_ exceeds the range of normal radar systems by the virtues of physics.
Any good EW system will know where a radar transmitter is at, way before you can target it.
I would expect next generation of software to systems like Arexis to be like a "EW radar officer".
Instead of the pilot taking active decisions on jamming the system can be put in an autonomous mode taking hundreds and thousands of intelligent countermeasure decisions every second.
It would make radar targeting of such a system a living hell.
Interesting info. Thanks
Before having a deep look in this vidéo, I stopped at 3.21 mn, you're right, I looked a lot of your work, I only can thank you, congrats you, for your really nice job. Once that's said, i'll pursue greedily this video.
(hoping i'm understood, english's not my first langage).
Prolly the best chanel about aviation ever made (or knowned by me).
Thank you so much for your work.
(I'm french, so a big supporter of the rafale, but i'm still interested by others aircrafts and the way of thinking, structure, geopolitical environment, around they're built).
Thanks for a great and informative channel! One thing i have observed when Gripen have been doing displays, is that it seems to loose very little energy (speed) when doing hi-G turns. This compared with other fighters. The combined wing configuration seems to contribute to this (almost like a modern slalom ski that curbs when tilted). If this is so, then this also, to some extent, would compensate for the T/W ratio. Do you have any comments to my thoughts?
Anders Sporrong is that with payload or only when clean ?
It is a plane with relatively less drag compared with others in the same class, this helps a bit.
Anders I linked above to Australian gov regarding the F-35 and there you can read that Gripen is best in class regarding instantaneous turn rate and loosing less drag than others
Great video! Simple explanation and to the point! Always thought single engine grippen was not good enough, but your video explains the other side of it. I'm convinced that the F16, f18, typhoon, Rafale and the likes are overrated and being sold at super inflated price with even less capability.
Thank you for this very informative video!
Ha...you have to like this guy! Thanks for posting. I enjoyed your video
The Gripen is currently on a short list of fighters under consideration for Canada's F/A 18 A replacement program. Its smart, flexible, affordable, and designed to be easily up gradable. Given that the current government is known for making horrendous defense acquisition decisions I am not holding out that this magnificent aircraft will be selected but it certainly would be ideal for Canadian needs.
David Beattie don’t tease yourself, Canada’s short list only writes f35 and never had any other name of it.
Plus not sure a single engine would ever be accepted by the caaf
@@jeanvaljean9293 If the F-35 is the only aircraft on the CAAF shortlist, then the two-engine requirement is by definition, waived.
Malthias I agree but the f35 is American therefore doesn’t need to follow the rules or logic.
Gripen has far too short legs for Canada, which actually least it should do, is Rafale with CFTs....
Piotr Dudała the rafale is enought, canada has tankers and bases to covert that, if the f18 h can do it then the rafale can do even more
Great info and even better presentation skills 👍🏻
A friend of mine who lives in Sweden told me that when they were flight testing the Gripens jamming system, (on a chase track and fight manouvre) his netflix movie disappeared from the TV screen. It certainly blocks / jams the wifi. 😃. The picture returned as soon as they were out of range.
This sounds terrific! How did he know it was a Gripen's test?
He told me that he saw the fast howling chase with two planes and flashing lights from his living room window and all that happened at dusk. This town is known for Gripen flights both for testing and training. They would not use the Draken or Viggen would they. Then after 2 to 3 days there was a news paper report confirming just that he said, but he already knew that SAAB was testing a new jammer from other Internet sources. It took a while before the TV and WiFi started to work again after being jammed, he said.
This is a very interesting story, thanks for posting.
@@Raj-nh3fc skaraborgs Flygbas F7?
Tell your buddy that _en svensk håller truten_
Good video 👍🏻👍🏻. And you also sold it in. I buy one... when I decide to buy a fighter.
If you go to a famous furniture and houseware Swedish shop and ask for a Gripen, please film the event! We want to see it! 😂😂
Gripen E can protecc
Gripen E can attacc
But most importantly,
its radar can point at the bacc!
Very good program. Congratulations from India
The most tactically significant aspect of the repositioner is that it allows the Gripen to track a target while staying in that target's doppler notch (aka "beaming").
wrt resolution of the IRST video feed, it's important to recognize that the optical resolution of _all_ long-wave IRSTs are an order of magnitude worse that of an equivalent (same FoV, same aperture) visual-band camera by diffraction. That's why we don't see any "4K" IRSTs in use - to obtain that sort of resolution would require absurdly large apertures.
Great video. Very informative!
great video !!! as usual but you forgot to mention the electronic attack pod arexis, something very impressive.
thales (rafale) is currently working on multirole antennas meaning the AESA could be used as radar, jammer and EA and spectra's antenna's could be emitting, jamming and detecting giving the rafale a 360° radar and jammer much larger then gripen. But the GaN will be late on the spectra suit first starting 2022 (at best) and the radar by 2030 (at worst).
The EF is still without AESA...
Wallace Maia I was just referring to eajp.
The rafale have or is getting everything by 2022. The only thing that’s coming late is the aesa radar that will also have electronic attack capability.
It’s also getting drone control.
This « gripen » doesn’t have it, nor will he get a stealth kit. ;)
Gripen E doesn't use EW suite PODS. The AREXIS EW suite is fully integrated on Gripen E.
Jörgen Persson
Im just putting this there saab.com/gripen/news/blog/gripen-blog/2019/saabs-new-electronic-attack-jammer-pod-in-the-air/
@@jeanvaljean9293 Yes they are testing the pod...but on Gripen E it's fully integrated.
saab.com/air/electronic-warfare/ew-systems-for-fighters/arexis/
@@jeanvaljean9293 The attack jammer pod is only meant for fighters that don't have this builtin capacity (F-18). Gripen E carries an equivalent of of an attack jammer pod in each wingtip. Plus all the extra equipment built in to the Arexis EW suite. Gripen E is a formidable EW fighter.
You briefly mentioned the recon over Libya, but there is much more to this story. I don't remember where I read this, but Sweden was invited to brief 5 eyes with their excellent recon intel.
This is interesting, do you have more details? Any source? Cheers!
best channel on youtube!!!!
Way too kind!
Note: re read my comment and realized making comments when I’m tired.... well they don’t always express my thoughts well...
I believe Boeing is working with Saab on the next 6 Gen aircraft (which it and Lockheed Martin will compete for both Navy and Air Force aircraft.
I believe Saab will end up licensing technology to the Boeing and it will benefit both financially and in terms of expanded credibility in the advanced aircraft markets. I believe we could see a prototype flying in 3-5 years if for the Navy and less time of for the Air Force. It will be a 6 gen fighter by label only. Truthfully I believe it will be similar to the differences in the F-4 phantom and the F-15 C. That is, very considerable improvement but using of the shelf technologies used on the F-22, F-35 and Saab’s latest Gripen. I still believe the Gripen is the best solution for many nations today simply because it is more affordable to purchase and maintain. So many nations cannot afford to operate an f-35 much less an F-22.
I truly don’t know how the Gripen would or could perform against the F-35 in a no restriction scenario at red flag. That is, can it (Gripen) truly compete with and win in unrestricted combat exercise with a true 5th gen fighter that has a great pilot and team working together (compete against f-35 or updated f-22’s.
It’s going to be interesting to see what the next 5 years brings to all these manufacturers
Well done sir.
Great video! Will there be a part 3?
I am not planning it, but I have some additional material that I did not use that could be packed in a short companion video. Considering the level of interest I will probably do it.
Yet another great video!
Having seen Gripen-C's perform on several airshows it never failed to impress with very tight and sustained 9G turns and very rapid recovery after that. I've been a fan of this very nimble fighter ever since.
I do wonder however, how Gripen E would fare against very low observables like the F-35, since it is said, that from certain angles and attitudes the frontal section of the F-35 reduces detection ranges by more than 70%. Wether that is a matter of fact or a salespitch, I don't know, but fpor argument's sake let's assume it is. We also know that the F-35 has great nose authority, similar or exceeding that of the F/A-18 Hornet and Rhino. That could mean, it has little trouble keeping its frontal section directed at an enemy at all times. Here's the question: could the Raven-radar resolve the detection range reduction sufficiently to get and maintain a lock on for weapons guidance, or would the lock-on be easily broken by deployment of countermeasures. All of that - of course - depending on the actual range between the two aircraft..
I know it's all very hypothetical and I'm not imlying anything here, as my expertise is falling short. I would love to hear your informed view on that question though.
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01:42 that looks like a DRDO Netra on an Embraer ERJ-145
Here's to hoping that you do a video on ORCA and Tejas Mk 2 when HAL brings out the two new canard-delta wings (hopefully before I turn 80!)
Are you an engineer" You are obviously intelligent and have much deep knowledge.
Is this a new channel? I really enjoy it so far
I started in August 2018
@@Millennium7HistoryTech Well I would say keep up the good work and this channel will continue to grow! You've earned my subscription for sure.
Great series! I like the Gripen more!! Please can you tell us what's the name of the background music? Maybe it is on spotify? Merci!!!
It is an unnamed track downloaded from here filmstro.com/music
@@Millennium7HistoryTech sai che non la trovo mi piacerebbe usarla come suoneria del cel
It's worth noting that Leonardo, who build both the Gripen's radar and IRST, also build those of Typhoon, using the same technology but obviously larger, i.e. more TRMs.
Ok, I'm sold. Where do I buy one
How much for a dozen
Whoa, that aircraft shown as an example of EW looks awesome! Never seen one before. What is it?
Millenium 7: I have questions, mainly in terms of comparison with the F35. The Red Flag results are certainly interesting but it depends when it took place. The F35 has gotten quite a bit better in the past couple of years and the F22 is being updated with some capabilities developed for F35’s, as are some American legacy fighters. My questions come in three areas:
1.Jamming vs. Stealth. Are you saying that jamming essentially replaces Stealth functionally? I understand d that jamming is easier to update than structure of the aircraft, assuming that Stealth aircraft don't also employ jamming. Does Grippen jamming function as well against ground-based antiaircraft batteries?
2, Sensor networking. I’ve heard references to this with the Grippen. The F35 can share its radar information with other aircraft and some ground-based assets, meaning each pilot can see the whole battlefield on their radar. Does the Grippen have a function like this? I’ve also heard the Rafale has something along these lines. In terms of battlefield awareness, how does the Grippen stack up to the F35 to your knowledge? Incidentally, the F22 is being updated with some of these capabilities.
3. Seeing and firing in multiple directions in 3D. An F35 pilot has helmet technology that allows them to see in any direction spherically and fire in any direction. How close is the Grippen to that, and functionally how close does it need to be? Again, the F22 is being updated with the capability to fire in multiple directions, including behind the aircraft, though I don’t think spherically. This capability could change future Red Flag results.
I understand the Grippen has certain advantages, primarily in cost of the aircraft itself and ease and cost of maintenance, though I understand they can’t currently be carrier-based, which two variants of the F35 can be. I have no trouble believing that a small country could develop state of the art military electronics - one glance at Israel proves that. As to why the US would give India a hard time about buying Grippens, that decision is less likely to be a strictly military decision than a business decision. This is especially true if foreign aid is involved - aid isn’t given in currency, it’s given in goods because goods mean profits and jobs go to American companies.
1. No it doesn't. Saab made the strategic choice of emphasizing EW because "classic" stealth is slowly losing its edge so it is not worth investing too much.
2. Gripen and Rafale both feature a level of data sharing similar to the F-35. The details are secret as usual. Watch the videos about the Rafale for further details.
3. Fire in any direction is of limited use if you are not using a long burner like the Meteor because the weapon loses an enormous amount of energy. It is possible though. I don't think that the helmet in Gripen and Rafale is as sophisticated as in the F35, but there is nothing in principle limiting its capacity.
Millennium 7 * HistoryTech If firing in any direction is of limited use, why do you discuss firing over the shoulder as a feature of the Gripen? (This is not an argument, it’s a question)
@@koshersalaami The pilot can help his launched missile find its way to the target more exactly by providing data collected by the fighters frontal radar.
If the radar can "see" sideways that means the fighter does not have to fly in the direction of the missile and the target to give directional updates to the missile.
Which is a really neat capability to have.
kossization This doesn’t address my last question. I know intuitively why it’s a neat capability. However, Millennium 7 said “Fire in any direction is of limited use if you are not using a long burner like the Meteor because the weapon loses an enormous amount of energy.” But he also talked during the videos about how firing behind the Gripen was valuable. It can’t be valuable in the Gripen but not in the F35, so I’m asking for clarification.
Red Flag in 2006 was in Alaska, 2013 was at Nellis. The F-35 was not present in either of those. Don’t think US allow non US presence when the F-35 participates. They don’t want to risk any intel leak regarding the performance and the Eurocanards has shown to be difficult to match. Different cultures different tactics. This is why Red Flag is so great.
awsome work
Very good video!
Would love a video on what could have been with the Super Tomcat. Seems like you know how to get information that is tough to find.
Ah the skill of the pilots, may have helped eh. At red star
No bad pilots are participating at Red Flag from any nation.
They are all Top Gun material👍🏻
You are awesome! 😄
Fantastic video
Gripens for the Scottish Air Force
According to this video, Americans should feel grateful for the Gripen to be Swedish, and not Russian.
And they were never invited again
Gripen was at Red Flag 2006, 2013 and 2020...
I love the Grippen but in South Africa the outgoing Cheetah could detect a Grippen before the Grippen detected the Cheetah. The Cheetah had a more powerful pulse-doppler multi-mode radar (ELTA). The Cheetah was also fitted with a data link and updated versions of the helmet-mounted sight, HUD and good HOTAS controls. The EW suite incorporated a missile approach warning system and radar warning receivers, while the aircraft's self-protection system, which consisted of electronic jammers and chaff/flare dispensers that were automatically activated. The Cheetah was a good interceptor/fighter though but was very expensive to operate.
@Niclas Eriksson I knew an engineer who worked on both when the SAAF just received the Gripen. He informed me of how the Cheetah could detect the Gripen before the Gripen could detect the Chetaah. Its been a few years so maybe they have upgraded the Gripen since
I'm no aircraft expert, but it sounds plausible. The older versions of the PS-05/A radar on the Gripen only has a range of 90-100 kilometers against a larger fighter. The Cheetah doesn't loook larger than a Gripen, so if it has even the slightest advantage in radar power it's possible that it could detect a Gripen first, assuming the Gripen didn't use its EW-suite. The newest upgrade of the PS-05/A has 2.5 times the range of the older versions, but as I recall it South Africa hasn't upgraded their Gripens in a while. No substantial upgrades anyway.
I think this is a good example of why Red Flag is so valuable. We train with or allies and mix and match good guys and bad guys to provide realistic, and fluid, training. We all bring our best and try to surprise our allies. Every one learn and we all get better. China and Russia are watching.
Saab choose you as an employee very well 😄
I really hope that Philippine government will choose Gripen over f16 now under negotiations on both sides...
i hoped that the Netherlands would buy 140 gripens. The new fighterjet must have the same rola as the F-16. It became the f-35 but they compaline about the price, it become cheaper and cheaper, but still a lot. 100 f-35 and 140 grioens would be perfect.
I would like to make some questions, maybe you could know the answer: Do you if the Gripen electronic warfare kit has some method to detect infra red guided missiles? F-35 uses DAS which seems very cool. The Mirrage 2000 also had an infra red detector for missiles.
Another question: I've heard that beyond the speed of sound the plane's control surfaces act inverted sometimes. Could you speak something about that?
Yes, the Gripen has missile warning sensors. In the video, look at the pictures at the end and you will notice them.
Control surfaces inversion is a real thing, even if today is no longer a problem. Too long for a comment, though.
Thanks for watching!
Missile warning yes but i dont think there is anything that detects IRS signal`s
@@Karl-Benny IR sensors sense heat - both on an aircraft to sense missiles and on missiles to sense an aircraft - there's no broadcast IR signal from a missile to find an aircraft like for radar missiles (either onboard or relying on the radar emitter on a friendly aircraft painting the target) that the target aircraft can detect.
@@michaeltempsch5282 I agree as far as I can tell there is no way to detect IR-Tracking since it is a passive sensor that does not emit anything. Though I guess it is possible to detect incoming missiles. And some systems also use a tracking radar to give the missile the general direction to fly to until it is close enough to track with IR.
@@mcgeufer You are correct. IR Tracking is seeing the exhaust/heat of an approaching missile or plane and warning the pilot. There are a few types of warning receivers out there. The basic IR warning is just a light to warn you to "look around." The second version gives a direction to the IR Signature so you know which way to look. The most advanced system also gives range and in the most sophisticated systems (F35?) it will try to identify the threat based on its "IR Profile" [unique heat signature].
The newer Infrared/digital imaging systems have both standard imaging (up to X100 magnification) and both thermal and IR imaging in them (the combination of thermal & Passive IR is known as Infrared FUSION and you can see the new googles used in the movie SICARIO). This system is completely PASSIVE and cannot be detected. It is now being used to pass targeting information to IR seeking missiles like the Stinger, Sidewinder, and all the Infrared-guided EU missiles.
Rhe grippen is just great value. Dolla bills
It’s definitely one of if not the best fighter aircraft in the sky’s today, pound for pound and dollar for dollar !
Su35 also has a moving planar array and rear mounted radar in the tail.