Brandel Chamblee talks why it’s not his job to be friends with Tour players
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
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On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, Golf Channel analyst Brandel Chamblee joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and his close friend and on course rival Drew Stoltz for an exclusive, in-studio, interview. The PGA Tour winner discusses why he believes Tiger Woods has underachieved in his career, the complexities of the 'greatest ever' debate, and his own experiences competing on Tour.
My favorite golf analyst. Im sick of all the others, kissing ass and trying not to offend them.
You guys did an excellent job of asking a question and then stepping back to let Brandel speak. I'm looking forward to seeing more of your content.
With respect to Jack Nicklaus vs. Tiger Woods win percentage, what about the number of times Jack came in second versus Tiger placing second, especially among the majors.
Jack was phenomenal in the majors! Without question. But is Jack really going to mention he has more 2nd place finishes in majors than anyone else? No he isn’t.. he’s going to refer to them as missed chances.
If you're not first, you're last.
What a privilege you have to sit down and lead such an engaging and thoughtful conversation (on a fantastic subject, golf) with someone so genuine as Brandel Chamblee. I've always appreciated Brandel Chamblee's approach to his work, yet you illuminated a whole new level of respect for Brandel Chamblee, thank you for doing this, so neat!
Nice interview with Brandel. Enjoyed the way he expresses himself!
Good afternoon, and thank you for doing an awesome job of providing great interviews and content about golf. Heard your show today and wanted to invite you both to come to Columbia, SC, Fort Jackson specifically so that you can see the golf opportunities that are offered on military bases around the world. After spending 22yrs in the Army I was offered chances to play at places like Fort Meade. MD(both courses have been shut down), Fort Leanardwood, MO, Fort Lewis, WA(great 27 holes you'll play in the state of WA, even in Germany there are courses available to play. My golf mentor played against the likes of Orville Moody, and Lee Elder, who were soldiers that played on the PGA tour I understand that it was years ago but there are great places to play. The practice facilities here at Fort Jackson are great!!! Two putting greens...chipping greens...double ended practice range...170-50yard practice range..
I'll invite you to come to Fort Jackson and play and see for yourself!!!!!
I appreciate commentators like Chamblee and Johnny Miller. Too often there are too many announcers and commentators that make excuses for professional golfer.
I give Brandel a lot of credit. He doesn’t kiss everyone’s ass and I appreciate that. Intro was spot on fellas
His thinking behind the golf swing just isn’t logical for me. There is absolutely no way anyone’s body holds up to the way Tiger was swinging when he was 24-25 years old.. And yes.. he started working with Butch before that 97 Masters but the swing in 97 is only fractions of the swing he had in 99-01.. it may be the foundation but it isn’t the same. People forget he didn’t play very well in 98. Different swing toward the end of 99. As for the comment of ‘Michael Jordan changing his foul shot’... or whatever... That’s no where near as complex as a golf swing. However.. Jordan too did leave at least 2 championships on the table when he went and played baseball. That’s much more comparable but why doesn’t he use that argument?? Because Jordan came back and won 3 more. It makes no difference to me. Tiger knee from an early age that his body would not allow any length of a career into his 30s with the swing he had in 2000. Plus, I’m not certain Tiger was comfortable with how much attention he was having to share with Butch Harmon. At the end of the day... players make the swings and hit the shots.. Butch wasn’t pulling off those shots. Granted he molded the best athlete and golfer into a world beater. But even in the Haney years, Tiger was still incredible dominate. In fact.. minus majors tiger won more tournaments than anyone in the 2010s... he missed what? 4 years of that era? And still won more events??? Come on man.. Brandel is looking for attention.. I’m not country music fan, but I remember a song Hank Williams Jr wrote with Waylon Jennings about the music industry: back then they called him crazy.. now days they call him a saint. The ones that called him crazy.. still riding on his name.. This is what Chamblee is about. Period. A reaction. The dude won 1 pga tour event and his highest finish in majors is a t18. To my knowledge he has never coached any successful tour player’s swing either. So why does Tiger care about his opinion? Oh yea.. he doesn’t.. Does Butch or Hank care? Nope. The great Jack Nicklaus? Nope. So why does a golf network have him on? Bc what he says is controversial and it’s going to draw people in on a Wednesday when no one is watching golf news on television. To say Tiger made poor choices in his golf swing is delusional.. after 82 wins and 15 majors????? You tell anyone including a 16 year old tiger woods those numbers will be his final tally and he’s 110% content with it. The only person who isn’t? Brandel Chamblee. Though I’m pretty sure Brandel sells his soul for Tiger Woods’ Numbers and career In the Hank Haney era alone.
Thank you!!! I agree wholeheartedly. Chamblee or anybody else shouldn't have anything negative to say about a player who has much greater stats than he ever dreamed of.
I could listen to Brandel chamblee talk about golf for hours, marathon with Brandel, Frank nobilo. Bring it on.
wedding story for the ages. Absolute legend
Love my old friend Brandel . Got a head full of good sense and tells the truth. And some people can’t handle the truth.
quick question - thoughts on Brooks Koepka :-)
I think Brandel does a lot of good for the game. Gets a bad rap, and some people don't care for his style, but I think he always comes to the table with his opinions grounded in research.
Always like your take on things Brandel! Good interview guys.
LOVE your show. GOOD interviews with Chamblee and also Pat Perez.
2nd time watching this. Didn’t like Brandel at first but really like and respect him now. Great interview guys!
Absolutely fascinating stuff.. great job, fellas!
Just found the podcast... local podcaster in Arizona, began in New York (2001). Golf nut/radio fanatic.... well done fellas. Saw Brandel in the Atlanta airport when I went to the Masters back in 2013. Dude is a class act.
His presence (Brandel's) is remarkable. He's got the type of demeanor that would put anyone at ease, instantly.
Brandel wouldnt know me from Adam, but we played some money games together at the Hills of Lakeway in Austin Tx...................... great times, good player.
Good interview, enjoyed many portions of it. But in regards to TW changing his swing, I thought it was well-known that he did that for his left knee. I thought the story was that the torque on his knee with his previous swing would not hold up over the long run so he re-built his swing for longevity.
didn't that just start with foley?
@@iwannaseenow1 No, I'm pretty sure I read this in Hank Haney's book and that was a while ago.
@@denniss8644 ok, thanks.
Really enjoy listening to brandel! He gets a bad wrap for being critical of players but that's his job! Love the question about the tee less driver and wedge lol
Sure.. doesn’t mean anything he says makes any lick of sense to anyone of any importance. You get Jack Nicklaus away from a camera or reporter to comment and he’s going to say something along the lines of, “who? His opinion is his opinion.. doesn’t mean any of us actually care”
Calling Tiger the greatest underachiever is simply stupid. But Brandel says it so matter of fact that you scratch your head.
If Tiger hadn't touched that 1997 swing, didn't hit the gym and SEALS camp, he would've had 30 majors by now.
@@3rdgroove not too mention all the women he was shagging.
@@3rdgroove i think the late 1999 and 2000 swing was better. the early swing relied to heavily on timing of the wrists..i think tiger said that. but yes, he should have at least 25-30 majors by now. injuries screwed him out of a solid 10 yrs.
@@iwannaseenow1 Just because Tiger said it, it doesn't mean it's true. It was the justification for him to change though. He had a lot of "timing" to win the 1997 Masters by 12 shots and to win the 3 US Ams and 3 US Junior Ams the 6 years prior.
His knees got hurt playing soldier (running in combat boots, kill house etc.) and in the gym doing heavy lifting. Later Foley gave him a swing which was not only short and had a two-way-miss but it also killed his discs.
It’s not stupid it’s truth and tiger has even admitted it
I like Brandel. He says it like it is. You can’t be mad about that.
Great interview.
He gets so much attention by bashing Tiger... he just doesn't like Tiger being the best ever and he just doesn't think Tiger is the best ever so he just finds things to discredit Tiger!
Lots of great stuff here!
Great interview...I thought Dudley Moore was a ringer to play him in a movie
Yes I watched this a year ago and my opinion has been validated a of late. For a guy with one win on the tour he is letting his alligator mouth over load his canary bird 🐦 a**. NUFF SAID!!!!
27:52 despite the win percentages means that those players did not have as deep a field per tournament. The further you go back in history the thinner the fields of golden boys of the country clubs.
Actually, the #’s haven’t changed much, you shoot 4 under everyday, you win and make a lot of money in any era...
Love his honesty and criticism when deserved
He’s right about teaching instructors, as I am also one. He should not have been criticized, that wasn’t a blanket statement to every instructor
Brandel Chamblee , todo un profesional y caballero . Con una locuacidad asombrosa sobre su pasión el Golf . Le sigo en GolfChanel . Saludos a uds desde Chile .
This will be good for sure
Cham should be on the Home Shopping Channel
Hes out of his mind sayin jack played tougher fields. Yea maybe tigers fields weren’t great from 97-07 or so but from 08 and on Dj Rory and all them come along. He’s still winning majors and contending. Jacks fields drastically dropped off after 10-12 players
I actually agree with Chamblee. Jack's competition in his heyday reads like a who's who of golf - Arnold Palmer, Lee Trevino, Tom Watson, Seve Ballesteros, Gary Player, etc. To your point, there was a drop off after some years, but Jack had to win most of his majors against guys who were just as capable of winning majors (and did), not just tournaments. Sure, Woods played against bigger fields and a greater number of really good players, but the number of players he competed against that were legitimate threats to win majors was much smaller than Jack's competition. You only need to look at the number of majors won by those players I mentioned - 35 - and that's just those 5 guys. Compare that to the number of majors won by Woods' main threats - Mickelson, Els, Singh, Goosen, Furyk, etc, and it's not even remotely close. Granted, my sole benchmark is majors, but I use that because really good players can win tournaments and even get hot and win a major, but it takes great players to win them consistently. You could make the argument that because the fields that Nicklaus competed against were smaller, he had more chances to win, but the bottom line is he still had to consistently beat guys who were stacking their trophy cases as well. I just don't see guys like Goosen and Els comparing favorably to the Watsons and Palmers of the world. In my opinion, it's the difference between swimming in water surrounded by 50 nurse and lemon sharks, versus swimming in water surrounded by a handful of great whites, makos, hammerheads, and bulls.
@hodell82...I didn’t have the energy to read your entire post but I’m going to assume you are correct. Anyone that has that much info is obviously informed.
I think Brandel Chamblee knows a little more about golf than you bud
hodell82 the reason that those guys won so many majors was because there was really only 15-20 guys that could actually win majors when in today’s game there are legitimately 100-200 guys that could win a major. That’s why less people win 5+ majors and a lot of today’s greats only have 1-2 like DJ, J rose, Sergio, Justin Thomas, Stenson, Webb Simpson, bubba, molinari, Zach Johnson, etc. If Rory and koepka don’t win as many majors as Trevino or seve that means they weren’t as good? Faldo admits most of these guys are better then he ever was. Another reason that the 90-00 generation didn’t win many majors was because tiger fucking woods was winning 30% of majors for an 11 year clip. the fields are a zillion times deeper today because golf, like all sports, evolves.
Golf Channel Geek Unplugged
Good call on Spieth. 1:06:00
Super super interview, so good guys!!
Tiger changing his swing made no sense??? you are the lead analyst at the monopoly Golf Channel and you have no idea why Tiger changed his swing??? How about the obvious that he loaded all his swing torque on his left knee since he was 5 thru 2002 and his body couldnt handle the reps of doing that, everyday 500 swings at full speed, his surgeries dont lie, how does this guy never mention that, he just criticizes his multiple swing changes
I would make the argument that when you look at Jack's win % vs his field and that field having better respective win % than that of Tiger's biggest competitors, well Tiger's competitors weren't able to achieve higher win % because Tiger was so dominant, winning all the events that would of boosted their wins if he wasn't there. He is the greatest of all time, if you do want to compare eras...
I disagree, players have gotten SO much better since Jack so it is so much harder to win on tour now. Golf is also accessible to way more people since Jack which also continues to improve the field. Just my opinion on it
If you tee off in first group on Thurs, you are in the last group on Friday. I don't see how this isn't fair? What am i missing here?
I've never paid attention to this but I think this is what's going on: There is a morning block and an afternoon block. But the rookies will be put at the end of each block. So even when the blocks are switched they'll get the short end.
Tbf, you have much less metal spikes now and you can tap down spike marks now. Not sure if it's really a problem. Plus you don't need to get up super early :-)
Obv Kevin Costner would play him in a movie...
Gary McCord is a great translator; when Mac Ogrady was top player and teaching guru, Gary could demonstrate and describe to an understandable way.
he sure got it right when he said tiger would never win again!
Good stuff. Thanks.
I need to know what Brandle was drinking?
It is his job to pimp the PGA Tour which has a huge contract with the Golf Channel...
AutoBiography title: Brandel Chambree - In the Rough.
Anyone who says they are not surprised by what Bryson has done is lying to themselves.
What I am surprised about is there is no conversation concerning his slow play. Has he drastically reduced his slow play time or is it that sports media just wants to talk about his major increase in distance off the tee?
oh, i'm def looking forward to this podcast...
did not disappoint!
I like Brandel and I appreciate his brutal honesty, especially when you consider how incredibly soft most Golf analysts are. The only thing I really disliked from him was his statement a few years ago when he called Tiger the biggest cheater. That was just trying to stir the pot. A totally unfair statement considering how many cameras are on Tiger at ALL times. Regarding Bryson, he may have increased his yardage by bulking up but if you watch him now, he is swinging so hard and almost coming out of his shoes. This will cause an injury.
Love your show!
But on the other hand he expresses what he really feels at times like saying RI kie Fowler is a person anyone would want their son to be like-- kind friendly generous and with golf talent at times.
Not sure I agree with the change in tee off times. The guys that play last on Sunday have a similar issue to deal with beat up greens, etc. Hmm.
That ad is well f####g funny... the rescue in Carnoustie😂😂😂 nearly pissed myself lagging.. John TROON Scotland U.K.
I love Tiger...don't get me wrong...But I totally agree about the argument that it was JACK who actually had the tougher competition.
Chamblee says " it’s not his job to be friends with Tour players". It's his job to every now and then, make controversial observation or statements. When he is called out every now and then, he says he has valid arguments to back. Those valid arguments may have the ring of truth, but only from his prospective. And when he makes such a ludicrous statement that goes even beyond himself, he'll complain that he is being ganged up on and claim he is only doing his job. Such a cop out if yu ask me.
Brandel makes some of the strangest analogies I've ever heard before. I think he tries to be deep sometimes, but he just doesn't pull it off.
He gets lost halfway through his own holier-than-thou philosophy to present a coherent argument.
3:36
Thoughts on Brooks Koepka?
Yes there is: Jordan.
Whatever DJ is doing is right but what Tiger did was wrong. 24 PGA wins to 82 PGA wins? He can pick who he wants as a friend or talk friendly about just like Chuck Barkley and hide behind his job. "Just doing my job"
Have Gary Player, Jack Nicklaus and Tiger Woods on the show.
How big is that Mac book?
Seems like I just found this.. Late to the game is the story of my life but the overwhelming question, What was Brandel drinking.
Isn't a better question about win percentages that the guys in Tiger's era have lower win percentages, not because they weren't as great as the previous generation, but because Tiger won more than they did? In other words, if Tiger played with Arnie, Gary, Billy, etc. maybe their win percentages would have been much lower because Tiger would have won tournaments that they otherwise would have won.
No. Tiger didn't win 78% of the time which left a lot of room for Ernie, Phil and Vijay to win more. They didn't because the overall depth of talent on tour was superior to Jack's era.
Love Brandel! He speaks truth without the “official” filter from the USGA!
Tiger is the greatest because he is still currently playing. He will be surpassed by the next generations super star when he retires.
It might be 100 years before there's another Tiger.
harrison ford?
To be honest, if you're a PGA winner and inside the top 100 then you're unreal. I saw guys shoot 64 from 7200 in Council Bluffs in a Korn Ferry Qualifier and not qualify. Pins all tucked, wind howling, hitting Driver 7i into 520 yd par 5s. They all got smoked by 2 kids who shot 62. Then on Thursday those 2 kids shot 73s and missed the cut.
How does Crow taste?
Apparently it’s his job to be wrong continually, good work if you can get it
Brandel is misinterpreting the data with his Jack/Tiger comparison.Tiger's 22% win rate came at a time when the overall talent on Tour was much deeper which also explains why Phil, Ernie and Vijay didn't have more impressive win percentages. During Jack's era, after Watson, Casper, Palmer, Player, Trevino, the falloff was pretty drastic. Tiger was simply far ahead of the rest of the field.
New drinking game take a shot whenever hosts say 100%
Changed my opinion of Chamblee, nice to see him outside of the booth. Love the sports betting picks, keep them rolling!
Just stop watching golf on CBS until Brandel is removed. I did. The most constructive way is to inform CBS & its sponsors he’s too negative & combative to speak to against International Golf fans & pro golfers who love golf & support the game everywhere. Why isn’t CBS covering international tours also?
I love Brandel but the argument for the winning percentage of Tigers opponents vs Jacks is flawed. Ernie, Phil, and Vijay had such low percentages relatively speaking because Tiger won so often. Not to mention the deepness of the fields now
no. Tiger DIDN"T win 78% of the time which left a lot of opportunities for Phil, Ernie and Tiger to win more. They didn't because the overall depth of talent on tour was stronger than in Jack's era.
This interview was great for me because it showed a side of Brandel that I've never seen. It changed my point of view of him and it should for others also.
Just a comment that prob will never get read! But Brandel's excuse for being the most negative critic I have ever seen in any sport is that he only study's the data??? The only thing that guy does is selectively pick the data that fits whatever negative narrative theory he pulls out of his ass that particular day. His comparisons or perceived slights that he experienced as a young player makes him seem petty and disgruntled. I don't mind critical commentary and the best players in the world...and yes Brandel...you can be very critical without coming across as a negative asshat!
45:46 not factual - BC has blocked half of golf twitter, many of whom just respectfully disagreeing with some of his views. Dissenting opinion will not be tolerated.
The Odyssey wedge sold more than ...... Tight Lie.......... The Perfect Club...................... Rescue
Well done dudes; good stuff. I've never thought much about (not for) Brandel, but I gotta say, I'm a fan now.
There is a right answer when comparing MJ to lebron. MJ - no contest. MJ, Bird, several more, lebron
Very good golf analyst.. says it like is.. not worried about saying the right thing.. keep doing what you do...
He's a smart, entertaining commentator who's angry side clouds his judgement. Then you team him up with Rich Lerner who's mediocre on his best days it creates a B grade broadcast.
Golfers and golf fans needed to hear this.
B.C. Not on the “air”
Chamblee has no friends on tour. The guys all hate him.
Let the man tell his stories, its a podcast not 3 dudez just talking wow
Johnny Miller and Brandel are the best. Please replace Paul Azinger with Brandel.
DiCaprio's acting is good, but definitely overrated. His acting is too visible, even if it's good.
Anyone who doesn't understand that Tiger is the greatest, bar none, is a few clubs short of a 14 club bag.
So Tiger has the highest winning percentage but for Chamblee since that negates his belief that Tiger isn't the best he discredits it, Tiger has the cut record but he discredits THAT buy saying Hogan had a better one...Tiger wins 4 majors in a row and he discredits that by saying well Bobby Jones won 4 in a calendar year and Tiger did NOT! he just cannot stand Tiger and he just will not admit he is the best!
i have high regard for Brandel, but he also "borrows" a lot of his "ideas" as passes it along as his work- check out Wayne D
I don’t think he considers it his work he’s just one of the few surrounding golf who choose to use outside ideologies to measure or educate people about their game and the game itself so they can better understand it. Brandel is very well spoken I use to not like him very much but I have a little newfound respect I guess
Everyone gets their ideas from someone before them, anything you could possibly think of or come up with has most likely at one time or another has already been thought of
He's not a scientist, he's a journalist.
Don Johnson is his twin
‘Big Daddy’ Brandel
It's hard for me to believe anyone could have beaten 2000 Tiger Woods.
Take away the Bridgestone ball & metal woods, HOGAN…..
mediocre PGA tour player at best (and that's being generous); slightly better as a talking head
The point he made was that even a mediocre PGA tour player (he wasn't BTW) is a very special golfer.
Who cares.. let him get a record like tiger then have this show
Isn't Paul Thomas' father Dave Thomas...GB and Ireland Ryder Cup player and co-designer of the Belfry with Peter Alliss?