Tony Iommi Talks about Ozzy Osbourne When he First Joined Black Sabbath
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- Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2015
- Tony Iommi tells Profiles host Mickey Burns about how they first discovered Ozzy Osbourne and how they first began together.
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I want a Black Sabbath movie
working on it
Who would portray the band?
No big-name guys. Wouldn't want some superstar to overshadow the narrative.
VY Canis Majoris ~~~ GREAT REQUEST.!!!!! Rock On ...!!!...>>> WAYNE'S DOMAIN
connor~~~ Me as ,"OZZY" ,,, NO BULLSHIT, SERIOUSLY... Take Care. & Rock On ...!!!...>>> WAYNE'S DOMAIN
Imagine going to school with iommi and ozzy
My headmaster did that. Pretty damn cool apparently.
He used to bully Ozzy at school...that's why he feels intimidated by Tony
@@rainbowspace994 he bullied everyone. Iommi was growing up in Birmingham, one of the roughest areas is england, even today. There was constant gang warfare, so he always had to protect himself and be tough.
@@jacques8277 I think there is a difference between "protecting themselves" and bullying someone else.
Iommi would always get in fights and was kind of involved in a few gangs, Ozzy was a clown in his school and often received the dunce cap
50 years later, they're still living? It's amazing!
Letsget stoned Duh, people don’t die that early on. Some even live to be over 100. Think. . . If you can do so.
@@ravenfeathesDVM I think he means despite their heavy drug abuse.
@@ravenfeathesDVM Uh, people who live to be 100 don't abuse themselves with drugs and alcohol like Ozzy did, he's lucky to be alive. THINK, if you can do so...
@@ravenfeathesDVM get shit on
especially Ozzy lol
If you think about it, if Ozzy didnt decide to put a flyer up in that exact guitar store we’d have never known about these legends.
Maybe we'd have world peace instead. Who knows?
Maybe he'd join the band another way, who knows?
Black Sabbath is more important@@scottashe984
I worked with an old bloke & he told me when he was young he got a brand new bike for Christmas & Ozzy saw him on it & asked to borrow it to get cigarettes, he never saw his bike again 😂😂
He probably forgot where he got the bike when he came back out of the store.
He got cigrits with the bike alright
One of my friends went for a beer on his bike during the party and came back on another bike:D somebody stole his so he "borrowed" somebody elses bike:D
😀
Yeah that's total BS.
Long live Sabbath
Mystic Dreams Music Long live Ozzy
@@ravenfeathesDVM There would be no Sabbath without Toni Iomi..
@mad ass Agreed.Iomi was always there though,from start to present.Constant presence.
@@apolloton1 There would be no Sabbath without (insert any original member's name). It took all four members to create that sound and vibe.
I was only fourteen when the album Paranoid hit the record stores back in 1970. It was the first album I ever got. I would play it loud in my mum's living room with the windows wide open. The neighbors would walk by and look in with that, WTF is that look on their faces, and hurry on horrified!!
Man I️ wish I️ wasn’t 18 in todays world I️ wish I️ was 18 in 1975
I wish I was like six back in 70
And not a “zoomer”
I was three.
Thats awesome. I cant even imagine what it must have been like hearing black sabbath for the first time in 1970
"Paranoid" was a great second LP, and its follow-ups were even better!
My favorite band growing up...It never gets old! Nothing compares to the men of Sabbath
Not heard of Led Zeppelin mate?
@@jackcooper3307 Zeppelin is in a class of it's own...Right on Jack!
Ozzy has lent a voice to some incredible songs.
Ozzy is living proof you don't have to have to have a great voice to be a great singer.
Greatest band of all time.
Fact.
Pioneer of heavy music.
Sabbath is awsome for sure, but I'm sticking with Zeppelin. Both are pioneers for sure
@@scottlewis8386 Zeppelin is just an hard rock band. Sabbath is something else.
No
@Noah Deamer couldn't agree more. Well said
The is the same story told by Ozzy in his book 'I am Ozzy'....They are by far my favorite!!!
Did you read Tony's book?
@@thathandleistakentrythisone Well I read and both books say the truth, but they focus on a different things. Ozzy autobiography focuses more on their crazy drug stories. Tommy book is more about the music aspect
Tony has created the most amazing riffs in heavy metal history. But without Ozzy's incredible vocal melodies black Sabbath wouldn't have been the best heavy metal band in history
Or Dio's
@@gavinvalentino6002 agreed. Dio was an incredible vocalist
Not heavy metal. They were heavy rock.
@@edwardescott5006 black sabbath title track, under the sun, Cornucopia aren’t metal?
@@outis439-ANope. They're hard rock. Still, they're the pioneers of modern day metal.
Tony Iommi not only created the sound of metal, but created Ozzy. 🎸
Oh yes, his mastermind created an Ozzy for this world
And Metal was born. 🎸
Facts
Deep purple!!
HELTER SKELTER @@Ali-cy8dw
They gave birth in one genre, that millions salute...That's fact
It's a miracle Ozzy is still alive!
All the fitness fanatics who are dead now must be turning in their graves lol
“I used to hate the sight of Ozzy. I would beat the piss out of him whenever I saw him.”
-Tony on his school years with Ozzy
Jake Bullet source?
@@TheSteinbittYou can read "I Am Ozzy":"As he was older than me he might have kicked me in the bollocks a few times and given me some shit, but nothing more than that."And"Now I knew for certain who he was. And he knew me, too. I froze. He groaned. 'Aw, fucking hell,' he said. 'It's you.'
I couldn't believe it. The bloke on my doorstep was Tony Iommi: the good-looking kid from the year above me at Birchfield Road, who'd brought his electric guitar to school one Christmas, driving the teachers crazy with the noise. I hadn't seen him for about five years, but I'd heard about him. He'd become a bit of an Aston legend since leaving school. All the kids knew who he was. If you wanted to be in a band with anyone, it was Tony. Unfortunately, he didn't seem to feel the same way about me.
'C'mon, Bill,' he said to the homeless-looking bloke. 'This is a waste of time. Let's go.'
'Wait a minute,' said Bill. 'Who is this guy?'
'I'll tell you one thing: his name ain't "Ozzy Zig". And he ain't no singer, either. He's Ozzy Osbourne and he's an idiot. C'mon, let's get out of here.'
'Hang on a minute,' I interrupted. 'How did you get this address? How d'you know about Ozzy Zig?'
'"Ozzy Zig Needs Gig,"' said Bill, with a shrug.
'I told 'em to take that fucking sign down months ago.'
'Well, you should go and tell them again, 'cos it was up there today.'
'At Ringway Music?'
'In the window.'
I tried not to look too pleased.
'Tony,' said Bill, 'can't we give this guy a break? He seems all right.'
'Give him a break?' Tony had already lost patience. 'He was the school clown! I'm not being in a band with that fucking moron.'I couldn't think of anything to say, so I just stood there staring at my feet.
'Beggars can't be choosers, Tony,' hissed Bill. 'That's why we're here, isn't it?'
But Tony just huffed and started to walk back towards the van.
I used to read that Ozzy was one crazy rebellious youth . Tough too before and during the Sabbath days , he could fight a few blokes at one time . He grew up in a mean and poor neighborhood. Hell, he headbutted that bass player who used to scrape his dick with a cheese grinder...that guy Don Costa . Ozzy Zig headbutted him in the tour bus in 1983 and accused Don of caressing Ozzy's nuts. Ozzy laughed his ass off after. Thats how Ozzy fired the guy .
Feeling So Good So?
windyhead 7 Who are YOU to pass judgement on someone? You have no idea what he might have and has been through.
No Matter what anyone thinks about John (OZZY) Osbourne's vocal quality or ability to sing. Look Man he was able to establish an entire career in the music industry through decades and really Their is no other singer in music who can duplicate his unique vocal characteristics and style and their never will be. Their is and will only be one individual like OZZY OSBOURNE ever period case closed.
Agreed
Imagine Tony just saying to Bill, “ah forget that” and actually did? wow
A lot of things would be very different.
I could see Tony saying that, lets be
real here, Ozzy was most likely
the lowest of sea slugs on the
rung as a teen, just look at early
footage. Tony and Bill probably
based there meeting on that.
Good thing it went further.
I like the way the interviewer says “Ozzy was insecure because he wasn’t a musician like you, he couldn’t read music”. I’m sure Tony has always written out all his compositions in full transcript 😄
Interesting! Ozzy was an amazing singer.
Yes....he also wrote the vocal melodies for the songs(with a few exceptions where he used Tonys riff). Mostly he'd sing along to Tonys riffs , improvising lyrics and melody line. Geezer wrote most of the final lyrics, but the vocal melodies are Ozzies. he knew nothing about music theory, but has a raw natural gift for harmony.
Ozzy IS an amazing singer! I just saw Sabbath a couple of weeks ago, and the whole band sounded GREAT, including Ozzy. I've seen his solo band probably 10 times over the decades and he has never sounded better than he did this last time with Sabbath, IMO. I was expecting to see some "rust" or whatever due to age, but they were all amazing! He doesn't jump around like he used to, but he's still a great frontman.
Eyellgeteven Yeah, Ozzy still is!
Dunno why fans always talk bad about his singing now, the poor guy is half-deaf.
Not as much as you. What have you accomplished in your life? I'll tell you 'fuck all'
Video where Ozzy talks about Tony : Ozzy gets hated on in the comments and Tony gets praised
Video where Tony talks about Ozzy and says he wasn't sure about him at first : Tony gets criticized in the comments and Ozzy gets praised.
Weird.
That's the Black Sabbath fan base for you. If you go on a song that Ozzy really, really, really performed well the fan base will focus on Geezer and Tony, And if you go on a song that Tony performed really, really, really well Ozzy and Geezer will get the praise. And, you know, this cycle just repeats with all the other members.
@@dorian4426 I guess they don't want anybody to be left without attention and praise
@@Losrandir I guess, but if that's the case then they're breaking their own rule, because they leave out the one who performed really well and focus on other members, leaving the one who performed good without attention and praise.
Geezer said that he had his own crazy run in with Ozzy. He had placed an ad in the paper looking for musicians to start a band with. A few days later his older brother told him that there was "This thing" at the door asking for him, so Geezer went "What do you mean 'This thing?' " at which his brother told him to have a look.
There in the doorway stood a skinhead, wearing a long brown leather jacket, wearing no shoes and having a dog leash with a sneaker attached to it, who extended his hand to Geezer and went "Ullo, I'm Ozzy."
Ozzy was dirt poor in those days. ........
skinhead?!
plasticweapon i think it means like a thug or something like that
@@plasticweapon Skinheads where something completely during the 60's-70's. I just checked wikipedia (dutch version) where there it also says that in 1988 SHARP was founded which was against racism.
Look up skinhead reggae.
@@OrlandoEeckhout I don't think he meant "what's a skinhead?". More like "wtf?"
Most people only know Ozzy with long hair (except the buzzcut stint in the 80's)
I wish I had that advert from the record store that day.
Tony is my favorite guitar player! 🤘🤘🤘
Tony & Ozzy both way cool!
I enjoyed getting to know Tony better. thanks!
YES I SAW OZZY with BLACK SABBATH live at every OZZ FEAST in San Bernardino CA area. SADLY METAL NEWS!!!! That Tony lommi passed away *))) PRAYERS for OZZY & his Black Sabbath family too
It's great to hear these stories of heroes from long ago. Happenstance.
Iommi is so under rated as was the rest of the band.
I still listen to the band to this day. BS is on my regular playlist.
I love how Toni refers to Black Sabbath's bassist and drummer, two of the most influential musicians in history, as just "Bill and Geezer"
What do you want him to call them?
@@astro2691 It wasn't a criticism. I actually love it. To him they're just mates he's known his whole life
imagine a million dollar band about to make rock history is in your neighborhood unrecorded
Ozzy said he was intimidated by Tony.
And still is.
I don't care how great a guitar player you are, Tony walks in the room and you feel intimidated.
That's because one thing that Tony doesn't mention here is that he used to bully lil Ozzy at school.
@@43captrexkrameryou think randy rhoads would be intimidated by that guy? Randy would play circles around him.
@@letthereberocknroll3870 shhh.....
@G King Go ahead and tell yourself that, Page might be the only one not intimidated.
Can you imagine what that "Ozzy Zig needs a gig" advert in the music store window would be worth today had the store keeper preserved it?
Back in the pre 80's , record stores were great for checking to see who was into the same music as I was. Not always though. I liked the record store environment, always music being played in the background.
Tony... Legend... 🔥
Best years in music were back in the late sixties and most of the 70s. Black Sabbath definitely is one of the greatest bands in this world.
I was so lucky to see Toni play live with Ronnie James Dio. Awesome concert at the House of Blues!😁❤️
I want to specially appreciate you for being a big fan. Thanks for your love and nice comments on my post, it means a lot to me and I would like to know more about you and how long you have been a good fan of mine Okay then I will direct you to my gmail address platform where we talk more on my leisure hour.
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@@ozzyosbourne7695 I don’t know if this is really ozzy but I saw you in Nashville like 2 weeks before Randy’s tragedy. To this day I tell people about that concert and people don’t believe me. Rip randy & god bless Ozzy
Yeah that’s true I was live there but nevertheless I would prefer you text me on my fans platform gmail address sent here Ozzyosbournemusic0099@gmail.com for you to get some evidence for them to know that you truly saw me Lol.
@@ozzyosbourne7695 Really Ozzie? And I'm the Easter Bunny...🤪
Alright bunny I will be looking forward to hear from you again on my platform gmail address I sent you here
Sabbath fans are the Best !!!!!
Finally got around to reading I am Ozzy. Freaking hilarious 😝😝😝😂😂😂🤘🤘🤘
Awesome he mentions Bill Ward off the top.
What is Truly Funny to me is that I did not know Ozzy Osbourne, I only knew of Black Sabbath! And had their Albums! But Get this, My Highschool Shop Teacher's Name, was Mr. Osbourne!!! YES MR. OZZY OSBOURNE!!! My Best Friend was laughing and I didn't know why!?!?!?! But Now I know, In 1980 My Shop Teacher, the nicest man I have ever met! Was named Oswald Osbourne at birth!!! Some times we called him Ozzy, but most of the time out of respect we called him Mr, Osbourne!!! :D Highlands High Sac CA.
im not a massive black sabbath fan, but im teaching myself to sing, in part by mimicing ozzy (my voice resonates with his well, makes it fun)
tony is the reason i decided i could be stubborn enough to stick with an instrument, so i got a guitar. now i have a bass..50% becuase of Duff, 50% becuase of Geezer!
Look at Tony.. he is the Devil of Guitar..... Bad ass Gentleman.... luv im....
I love Ozzy
Phenomenal writing lyrics...
Classic example of pure fate and that applies to everything- right place right time!
Sometimes all you need is an opportunity and someone that believes in you.
Ozzy doesn’t know how talented he actually is.
Sure he does. Ozzy hasn’t been particularly talented for a number of years. Should be retired.
My love ❤
I was shocked how good Ozzie's voice sounded.
SO SHWEEEETTT...much love Tee with LIONS NAMED LEO.[the music worldwide}
AAAHHHH SOOO COOL..!!
I would pay a billion dollars for that original Ozzy Zig requires gig ad
Exactly. people talk down. and dont realize what you have done for them.
Any member of Black Sabbath being interviewed by someone in a suit just seems wrong to me
tommi is wearing a suit jacket you weird man
@@mitchu9677 Tony is a legend
its like watching a Televangilist interview the devil and praising his hellish jams.
This interview looks like it was done in a funeral parlor.
It was, didn't you notice the
strange smell....
Hahahaha
I utterly agree!
me toooo!
Talk to the crowd.....50 yes of Let's go f..king crazy🤣🤣
i always notice tony takes credit for ozzy a lot. to what extent it’s true i’ll imagine 40% but tony will never give ozzy the 60% he deserves meanwhile ozzy talks up tony till the day is done. give me a break.
Tony is 100% > Ozzie. So Ozzie got a better deal than he deserved.
Yeah coz the guy that wrote all the songs n music is generally worth more than the singer.
The way Ozzy tells it, Tony was the cool guy at school, and he was the class clown, and neither had anything to do with each other. The only way they hooked up as a band was they all knew Geezer. Ozzy knew Geezer, and Tony and Bill were like you know Geezer, ok he's cool, let's do it. If Ozzy hadn't known Geezer it probably wouldn't have happened since Tony obviously disliked Ozzy from the get go
@@ozzyosbourne7695 LOL
First time I listen to Tony speak😙😊 it's beautifull ❤🎸
Hes a creep who thinks his shit doesn't stink.. zI didn't like him then and don't like him now..
You never know till you take chance...
Very Cool.
he was a great fit
OZZY!!!
OZZY👓💙
I want to specially appreciate you for being a big fan. Thanks for your love and nice comments on my post, it means a lot to me and I would like to know more about you and how long you have been a good fan of mine Okay then I will direct you to my gmail address platform where we talk more on my leisure hour.
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Tony is putting it very mildly here. In an interview decades ago, he said he not just didn't associate with Ozzie but knew him from school and (quote) "Couldn't stand the sight of him." LOL
I've seen also that Tony used to bully Ozzie.
imagine this interviewer hearing Symptom of the Universe just to get in the vibe to interview
Despite all the the problems Sabbath would never have been Sabbath without these four people. Like them or not.
lol, "organize a raffle". great advise.
Why is it funny that someone would post an ad in a music store?
They laugh because now it's weird but at that time it was normal.
I like the point made about Ozzy Osbourne merit for one of the greatest frontman in music. Haters might doubt his musical habilities but he knew how to move crowds.
By being a drugged out crook. And throwing water on people.
@@ckcisapplings throwing water on people crucify the man you clown
Ozzy sung symptoms of the universe, best song sabbath ever did in my humble opinion, last minutes of the song was zeppelin esk
Cool interview,
but missed a lot
due to really low volume.
They gotten their name from a Boris Karloff movie they were known first as Earth.
No 1👊🏾☠️🤘🏾
He politely tells this same historical account 1000 times. True gentleman, but really he is up there with Beethoven and Fux
The Ozman Cometh!
Title fail! All four Black Sabbath members “joined” Black Sabbath at the same time.
I recently re- listened to "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" for the first time in a while. It was late at night, I had a good buzz, and my stereo is rather kick-ass. That song gave me the ebgb's so bad! It was awesome in that it scared the sh*t out of me. What a total classic Sabbath song! I defy anyone to tell me that this ranks as one of the best metal vocals of all time?!
Tommy: "So how much money is this interview paying me?" "Well, damn, now I suppose I'll be bound by law to give Ozzy his 98% as my contract states, which Sharon handed me earlier"...
Tommy ?
So, do I understand correctly that Bill is the only guy whom Ozzy should always salute about his whole career? And we all know what was the pay back from Ozzy to Bill. That's how much a friendship costs in a show business.
Andrej Istomin so true man
Sharon's fault.
That bitch fucks everything.
I think it was also Bill who had to tell Ozzy that he was out of the band. I think he always felt a little betrayed by Bill over that.
It was definitely Bill who told Ozzy he was fired, he's mentioned it in a few interviews.
So far as Bill not rejoining Sabbath on their last album & tours it does seem like it's probably unrelated to Ozzy, as Bill gave the same reason (an unsignable contract) when he dropped out of the reunion with Dio, which Ozzy (& his management) obviously had nothing to do with
Agustin, Ozzy Osbourne would be dead without Sharon. There would've never been a black sabbath reunion without her. And bill Ward shouldn't have been such a fucking pussy, He should've went out there with them and played for the fans, NOT THE MONEY. Fuck William Ward on this one. But....hey, maybe they needed a little controversy to get the album going....it did top the charts in 50 countries. Black sabbaths my favorite band, but you cant forget, THEYVE ALWAYS HAD SOME FAKE BULLSHIT GOING ON IN THE BACKGROUND TO ENDORSE THEM IN THE PUBLIC NEWS. dumbasses
Tony please comment on my black sabbath cover's that I played I just love playing black sabbath music, and you are a great guitarists. God bless sabbath and God bless you bro.
I want to specially appreciate you for being a big fan. Thanks for your love and nice comments on my post, it means a lot to me and I would like to know more about you and how long you have been a good fan of mine Okay then I will direct you to my gmail address platform where we talk more on my leisure hour.
Best Regards. Text via:Ozzyosbournemusic0099@gmail.com
The ulmighty Sabbath 🤘🤘
In the beginning.. There was Ozzy 😁😂
Black Sabbath are Black Sabbath, there is no-one else, no other musician, artist, vocalist or band to replace these 4 original men who formed the greatest heavy rock band in the world with a blues twist of harmony, echoes of enchantment and real ROCK!
You guys who are slagging off any of these Greats need your heads tested, they are the best, they were the Best and they always will be.
When I first heard the original album, I was completely blown away and for anyone to highlight any faults in these guys, can we understand to make anything GREAT, we need GREAT characters, these gents were all of their own making and together they gelled like no other.
Black Sabbath no1.
I want to specially appreciate you for being a big fan. Thanks for your love and nice comments on my post, it means a lot to me and I would like to know more about you and how long you have been a good fan of mine Okay then I will direct you to my gmail address platform where we talk more on my leisure hour.
Best Regards. Text via:Ozzyosbournemusic0099@gmail.com
"didn't really associate with him at school" (Scratches head, nervous look hidden by glasses) yeah, That's codeword for He kicked the shit out of ozzy at school. They both don't like talking about eachother during their school days. I wonder how bad of a bully iommi was to him.
Yeah, but I defiantly understand it. They both seem to, since they know they were both just kids. Iommi is a bully, He had to be where he grew up, otherwise he wouldn't have made it this far.
In another interview Tony Iommi admits they went to a tough school and the older kids picked on the younger ones.
I've been seeing/reading interviews from Tony for 30 years, and he has *never* owned up to how viciously he bullied Oz. And boy, did he ever beat the tar out of him.
It says a lot about Ozzy that he still perused being in a band controlled by his old school bully. The guy has balls.
Calebe Priester its possible that he did
JBadAss98Gameing That doesn't mean that he's bullying him.
Tony Iomie looks like Richie Blackmore .
Read Tony Iommi's book "Iron Man" - interesting stories.
Started heavy metal
A Movie 🎥 about Black SABBATH aught to be Great Fun, especially If ohne has read some Biografieschreiber🤩🎸👍🙏
🇬🇧🇬🇧
I wanna make an ozzy bio pic if I could get the help I’d make it I know exactly what and how I wanna do it I’m a filmer
And the rest is history…
Tony, Geezer and Ozzy ARE Sabbath (Though Dio was important, rip)
How can you forget Mr Ward.
Without Dio Sabbath wouldve died long ago. Also Dio was the best singer Sabbath ever had by far.
@@ckcisapplings Dio sucks compared to Ozzy.
all them going together was faith cause they couldnt have sounded better if one was replaced, the Dio era was ok since Dio was an amazing singer already, and if im not wrong ozzy still is a bit unsure if people will like his shows
😎👍😁🤟🎼☠️🖤🍻 Smile. \m/ ' [-_-] ' \m/....Bye... Bottoms up and cheers...Stay loud, stay proud, stay heavy. Take care, be strong, and stay safe .......
Godfather...
THE GOD OF RIFF.
Ritchie Blackmore would like to have a talk with you.
@@ckcisapplings Well, he can keep talking.
Iommi has created every great riff that every good riff was based on. Blackmore is a virtuoso...different kind of player. Great guitarist, but not a riff lord.
@@sydIRISH no,he just has the greatest riff in rock history lol. He is THE riff lord. Iommi would admit so himself.
@@ckcisapplings IRON MAN 1000X > Smoke on the Water. Sorry dude, it's matter of taste. Deep Purple isn't even metal. They're prog rock.
@@sydIRISH evwry metal and rock magazine would disagree with you on Iron man over Smoke. Thats a joke and you know it. And go listen to In Rock and get back to me about them being metal.
Ozzy Zig Requires Gig
Brown Sabbath, Mac Sabbath
Ozzy sort of was like Dennis Wilson and Keith Moon. Manic energy, very friendly but impossible to contain. No discipline. So you have to keep this talent captive. Back in that era, it meant throwing punches, flushing pills, forcing a team of teenage chicks out of the room so this little dude could do his job. But Tony also knew that Ozzy had an irreplaceable voice, incredible soul, beautiful composition. So you are basically fighting your right arm to do it’s job. Tough situation. With Elvis, he had no one to keep in check. With Keith, Roger could sort of keep him in check. With Dennis, we’re going to have to fight this bastard every time he goes on a bender. With Ozzy… he was too good and had no understanding of his talent. How do you reign people in? I think Tony probably overdid it, but it was crazy.