Hi Everyone, We hope you enjoyed our video! Which small Class C motorhome UNDER 25' did you like best? Do you prefer a travel trailer, motorhome or 5th wheel? Please say hello by leaving a comment below and sharing your opinion about these RV floor plans.
You make some very valid points about the placement of the micro/ oven as well as Tv. I totally agree .It's very refreshing to have someone pay such attention to details that others might miss . Thank you, great tours. .
I am 4ft 10. I like the microwave down so I can actually reach it. As for the slide out beds, I would cut that mattress in half and never open the slide out. I can easily sleep sideways in most queen beds.
Slide outs can be a huge problem! Do you have a rig with slides? If so what are you driving and do your slides leak and have problems? Thanks for watching and commenting! Mike
Hi Mike and Susan! I liked the the Thor. But I also liked East West Entrada. I like the Golf Stream too but like Thor more. Love the floor plan. Thank you Mike and Susan! Hope you have a great Veterans Day!🇺🇸🇺🇸 Hope you have a great great week and see you soon! I did put in a comment on Sunday but I guess it never sent. Sorry! I’m glad I went back and checked. See you soon! Safe travels!
Great video I really wish the RV industry would make shower's 🚿 step ups 4inches or less they can lower the P Trap lower even with a shield on it for disable people
Hi Mike and Susan! I like Thor and also the Entrada. I like the Gulf Stream with the two sofas. In the Thor i didn’t like combo of the brass or nickel together. I’m with you on that Mike. Didn’t like the shower curtain either. Thank you Mike and Susan! Have Ave great week and see you next week. Safe travels.
We only show MSRP which you should never ever pay. Right now it's a buyers market and you can expect to save 35 to 40% off of MSRP. Thanks for watching! Mike
@@RVBlogger we have owned the following over the last 18 years. Coachman Leprechaun 220QB, Holiday Rambler Vacationer, Riverside Retro, Aliner, and now an Escape 21C which is made in Canada. The quality of the Escape is far superior than any of the others. We also have a CampInn 560 which is another well made camper in Necedah, WI. Some of the issues encountered with Indiana made campers are slide roller brackets never have been secured to the floor which promptly ate the flooring, loose wiring from the factory, an Atwood tankless water heater which is best suited as a boat anchor. Thank goodness we found a Truma tankless water heater which was wonderful. On another, the slide was pushing out the side wall from the camper. Aliner had a Kool Kat AC which had no drain pan, guess where the water went! The Coachman had screws coming out the TPO roof. We could go on and on!
We just don't want to deal with the slide; we just want to be in the simple and easy care. Please do the same video with those class C without the slide. Thank you 👍
We have made some other videos of Class C RVs without slides. Here's a link to one of our videos if you would like to check it out: ruclips.net/video/AsdlBsrQerE/видео.html Thanks for watching! Mike
I like the Gulf Stream layout. Particularly, well suited for a couple with no kids or other passengers. I like the use of the over the cab area as storage with finished cabinets because you can never have too much storage in an RV and the dual sofa/bed layout. However, the under the bed storage area access door appears difficult to access. You would have lay on the floor to access items under the sofa. It seems very awkward. A better solution would have been to make the sofa portion with hinges so that you can lift that side of the sofa to access the under the sofa storage area from the top. As it is, I cannot see that storage area being used and certainly not by older people who have back and knee problems. Not very well thought out.
I agree that the under-bed storage access is awkward! You bring up some excellent points! Sure hope they are listening (reading). Public opinion is what makes change. Thanks Olsen...Can I call you Olsen? I feel like we are on first name basis today! 🤣
I think, if they’re going to have two different metal colors, use the brass for the kitchen hardware & faucet & the appliances can be brushed nickel. The brass would be a nice accent in the kitchen area but would look tacky on the appliances. That's why the appliances should be brushed nickel.
Hey Mike! I absolutely love the layout of the Gulf Stream, but a Class C is probably not in our future. Do you know of any regular towable trailers that have a similar Floorplan?
I can't say I do right off the top of my head...but I have seen some toy haulers with opposing jack knife sofas...maybe someone else will see your comment and recommend a good trailer with a similar floor plan... Thanks for watching! Mike
They are all similar to our 2024 Winnebago Vita. 24.5 feet. Our queen bed is in the mega slide, so not usable if we cannot put the slide out. I can never recommend any adult sleeping in the bunk over the cab. Horribly uncomfortable and way too tight for 2 adults. Ask me how I know? Had we not had my mom with us, sleeping on the dinette bed, we could have slept there. We both fit and it’s comfy!
Howdy, love your videos! I wonder if, since you carry the tape measure with you, if you could measure the width and length of the shower as well as height. I am talking about, but also a bit bigger. Just be nice to know.
I have been trying to remember to give those measurements...some of our reviews include them and others do not. Thanks for the suggestion! We rely on our viewers to tell us what they want to see in our reviews - so thank you! Mike
For the price of these RVs, the manufacturer should have given greater attention to detail. It would not have been cost prohibitive for the manufacturer to have the hardware and appliances match in color. As it is, it seems as if the construction had been haphazard; using whatever was available at the warehouse/plant without thought or effort for quality control.
These were very cool! I may sound like a broken record ; but I sure wish you could tour the Snoozy plant, it is in a new location but still in South Carolina.
Next time we are in the South Carolina area we will have to reach out to Snoozy Camper! We love fiberglass! Thank you for the suggestion and thank you for your support!
I agree about location of the cubbies over the cabin - However the TV is well located to watch when sitting at the Dinette - Are you having any reviews on the Entrada 210NS (No slides) - We are looking at that one as a potential purchase ... Thanks for doing great reviews!
I like the microwave up high because I can’t bend down that easily and the design with the low microwave seemed awkward to read the buttons/ program the microwave.
That's fair. I'm vertically challenged (Susan) and sometimes a microwave too high poses a problem. But I understand back and knee issues bending down. Countertop height is ideal. Thanks OlsenTheWonderDog!
@ Both my wife and I are vertically challenged as well. While I would agree with you that the ideal location for a microwave would be countertop level, countertop space is a premium commodity in an RV kitchen so I would not sacrifice the countertop to accommodate a microwave. Other than the placing the microwave up high in an upper cabinet space, another option would be to mount a microwave below a high cabinet so that it is at eye-level and leaving the countertop free of space. Yes, such a placement would intrude the space immediately above the countertop, but it would still provide enough room (depending on the dimensions of the microwave) to use the countertop for food prep. Just a thought.
One time, just one time I want you to get four adult or even two adults and two kids and have them sit in the dinette and see how comfortable they are. Put some food with drinks plates silverware and ready show how "comfortable" they ate
hmmmm! Great point. I think we could do that at an RV show. Thanks for the tip! And thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Sorry, not quite sure what you mean. Could you rephrase? Which motorhome? Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Hi Renee, one big reason we review so many Class C RVs under 25 feet is because they fit in most campsites. But can you clarify your question a bit so I can give a better answer? Thanks! Mike
It all depends what type of chassis they sit on and how popular they are in the market place. If they sit on a Mercedes chassis they will be close to $200K. On a Ford, Dodge or Chevy chassis they would come in much lower. Plus - remember we only show the MSRP and its a buyers market now so you can expect to negotiate 35 to 40% off the price.
Maybe I'm just a bit picky but for the kinds of prices they're asking for these days I expect better more logical use of space in floor plans, matching accessories through out the coach. Each of these coaches had at least 4-5 immediate changes that I'd have to make right away before talking them on a trip. It's kinda like they go high end on one item and then cheap out on something else.
You're not wrong! Floor plans and features in smaller motorhomes isn't always smart. Practically is more important to me than high end design. Thank you!
Please be aware we only show the MSRP and since its a buyers market you can expect to negotiate 35 to 40 % off of MSRP. So you can pay less for a model that will require 4 to 5 changes you would like to make. lol. I'm kidding and we agree - these rigs should be better for the money we pay for them. Thanks for watching and for your comment! Mike
Good question: Over mount sinks exist because not all countertops allow for an under mount sink because the sides of the countertop would be exposed to water with an under mount sink. It's just that simple. Thanks for watching! Mike
I would rather have the microwave convection oven too low as to have it too high.i have to use a step stool to use the microwave oven in my trailer and worry about spilling things getting them out.
$110K+ for that East West and the door on the cabinet above the dinette doesn't even close flush, it's hanging open. How'd something like that get out of the factory? And you're right, that TV and cab over bed is laid out all wrong. That tells me no attention to detail. And East West is supposed to be a "good" brand.
I would have to say that the manufacture missed the point on this Class C. The bunk area is defiantly backwards, the head should have been located at the other end. Also the microwave should be located at the top not the bottom of the cabinets. We have ours on the bottom and I am literally on my hands and knees just to operate it. Hope they do better in the next motorhomes they build.
That is very common in RVs. Not ideal, but common. Slides provide so much more living space but the downside is cramped or unusable space when they are inoperable. Unfortunately we know this all too well LOL! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Hi Pesto...Actually you can expect to negotiate 35 to 40% off of the MSRP. They may still be a no for you but I want to make sure anyone who reads this comment gets the correct info. Thanks for watching! Mike
Why do you like crank out windows over the sliding type? I like them better too because they don't let water in if it rains... Thanks for watching! Mike
I understand your disappointment. You're right, these are not cheap! But remember - we only show the MSRP which you should NEVER PAY. And it's a buyers market so you can expect to negotiate 35 to 40% off of MSRP
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Hi Everyone,
We hope you enjoyed our video! Which small Class C motorhome UNDER 25' did you like best? Do you prefer a travel trailer, motorhome or 5th wheel? Please say hello by leaving a comment below and sharing your opinion about these RV floor plans.
You make some very valid points about the placement of the micro/ oven as well as Tv. I totally agree .It's very refreshing to have someone pay such attention to details that others might miss . Thank you, great tours.
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Glad you like our tours and attention to the details!
Thanks for watching and commenting! We appreciate it!
I agree, the hardware should match.
Absolutely!!!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Mike
Thor 4 winds my fav. This is the camper I have been looking for Great vid. ty
You're welcome and thank you! So glad we could help you find it!
Yes! Mismatched hardware is jarring, and for the price point they need to elevate that!
Agree! Thanks for watching!
Mike
I am 4ft 10. I like the microwave down so I can actually reach it. As for the slide out beds, I would cut that mattress in half and never open the slide out. I can easily sleep sideways in most queen beds.
Susan said Amen Sista! She is 5'1"
Thanks for your comment!
Mike and Susan
I’m taller than that and I still want the microwave down low so I don’t dump anything on myself 🙌🏼🙏🏼
I was thinking that right off on the backwards cup holder in cab bed area too.
No slide outs. They all will always leak and are cold. Microwave needs to be up not down low.
Doors need a doggy door.
Why do doors need a doggy door? Sound like they would leak and be cold?
Slide outs can be a huge problem! Do you have a rig with slides? If so what are you driving and do your slides leak and have problems?
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Mike
Good eye Linda!
Thanks for watching!
Mike
Totally agree with your comments re TV & microwave. N Ice review.
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching!
Mike
Hi Mike and Susan! I liked the the Thor. But I also liked East West Entrada. I like the Golf Stream too but like Thor more. Love the floor plan. Thank you Mike and Susan! Hope you have a great Veterans Day!🇺🇸🇺🇸 Hope you have a great great week and see you soon! I did put in a comment on Sunday but I guess it never sent. Sorry! I’m glad I went back and checked. See you soon! Safe travels!
Thank you for the kind words and Happy Veterans Day to you too! Hope you have a great week!
Mike and Susan
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No problem with the kind words. You’re welcome!
Great video I really wish the RV industry would make shower's 🚿 step ups 4inches or less they can lower the P Trap lower even with a shield on it for disable people
We agree. There are much better choices for the shower traps to allow for a lower step up into the shower.
Thanks for watching!
Mike
Hi Mike and Susan! I like Thor and also the Entrada. I like the Gulf Stream with the two sofas. In the Thor i didn’t like combo of the brass or nickel together. I’m with you on that Mike. Didn’t like the shower curtain either. Thank you Mike and Susan! Have Ave great week and see you next week. Safe travels.
Hi Sherri!!! Thanks for sharing your opinions on these Class C RVs!!!
Hope you have a great week too!!!
Mike and Susan
Those prices are outrageous 😳
Not to mention the junk coming out of Indiana.
We only show MSRP which you should never ever pay. Right now it's a buyers market and you can expect to save 35 to 40% off of MSRP.
Thanks for watching!
Mike
What type of rig do you own and is it junk? If so tell us about it. We want to hear.
Thanks for watching!
Mike
@@RVBlogger we have owned the following over the last 18 years. Coachman Leprechaun 220QB, Holiday Rambler Vacationer, Riverside Retro, Aliner, and now an Escape 21C which is made in Canada. The quality of the Escape is far superior than any of the others. We also have a CampInn 560 which is another well made camper in Necedah, WI. Some of the issues encountered with Indiana made campers are slide roller brackets never have been secured to the floor which promptly ate the flooring, loose wiring from the factory, an Atwood tankless water heater which is best suited as a boat anchor. Thank goodness we found a Truma tankless water heater which was wonderful. On another, the slide was pushing out the side wall from the camper. Aliner had a Kool Kat AC which had no drain pan, guess where the water went! The Coachman had screws coming out the TPO roof. We could go on and on!
@@vanbrendle Thanks for your response! I appreciate you sharing your feedback to others can be warned of the quality problems in Indiana!
We just don't want to deal with the slide; we just want to be in the simple and easy care. Please do the same video with those class C without the slide. Thank you 👍
We have made some other videos of Class C RVs without slides.
Here's a link to one of our videos if you would like to check it out:
ruclips.net/video/AsdlBsrQerE/видео.html
Thanks for watching!
Mike
I am really liking the Jayco Redhawk SE22FT. It has a European feel
I suppose it does - good call...
Thanks for watching!
Mike
Awesome!
Thanks!
Mike
I like the Gulf Stream layout. Particularly, well suited for a couple with no kids or other passengers. I like the use of the over the cab area as storage with finished cabinets because you can never have too much storage in an RV and the dual sofa/bed layout. However, the under the bed storage area access door appears difficult to access. You would have lay on the floor to access items under the sofa. It seems very awkward. A better solution would have been to make the sofa portion with hinges so that you can lift that side of the sofa to access the under the sofa storage area from the top. As it is, I cannot see that storage area being used and certainly not by older people who have back and knee problems. Not very well thought out.
I agree that the under-bed storage access is awkward! You bring up some excellent points! Sure hope they are listening (reading). Public opinion is what makes change. Thanks Olsen...Can I call you Olsen? I feel like we are on first name basis today! 🤣
I think, if they’re going to have two different metal colors, use the brass for the kitchen hardware & faucet & the appliances can be brushed nickel. The brass would be a nice accent in the kitchen area but would look tacky on the appliances. That's why the appliances should be brushed nickel.
That might just be a good solution! Thanks for sharing!
Mike
funny that the most expensive one gives ya a cheap shower curtain!!!
That drives me insane!!!!!
I wish they would change and most manufacturers install a retractable shower door now...
Thanks for watching!
Mike
@@RVBlogger me too, also glad to see more tankless water heaters!!!
@@michaelwoodward2876 We are too!
I agree about the microwave
Thanks!
Mike
Thanks!
Would much rather have a small couch instead of dinette. Like the layout in the BT.
Agree! Dinettes in a smaller RV can take up too much space. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
The Thor Four Winds dinette has a sleeping area of 76inches in the length!
Cool!
Hey Mike! I absolutely love the layout of the Gulf Stream, but a Class C is probably not in our future. Do you know of any regular towable trailers that have a similar Floorplan?
I can't say I do right off the top of my head...but I have seen some toy haulers with opposing jack knife sofas...maybe someone else will see your comment and recommend a good trailer with a similar floor plan...
Thanks for watching!
Mike
I thought your concern with the first sunlight in the bathroom would be all the birds and squirrels to watch you shower? 😅
Haha - good point! That was not what I was thinking. 😳
Microwave up high for me !
I agree!
Thanks for watching!
Mike
They are all similar to our 2024 Winnebago Vita. 24.5 feet. Our queen bed is in the mega slide, so not usable if we cannot put the slide out. I can never recommend any adult sleeping in the bunk over the cab. Horribly uncomfortable and way too tight for 2 adults. Ask me how I know? Had we not had my mom with us, sleeping on the dinette bed, we could have slept there. We both fit and it’s comfy!
Thanks for watching!
Mike
Howdy, love your videos! I wonder if, since you carry the tape measure with you, if you could measure the width and length of the shower as well as height. I am talking about, but also a bit bigger. Just be nice to know.
I have been trying to remember to give those measurements...some of our reviews include them and others do not. Thanks for the suggestion! We rely on our viewers to tell us what they want to see in our reviews - so thank you!
Mike
@ I think you guys do an amazing job and are helping me narrow our search!
@@kellykenworthy4063 Thank you so much!!!! We try our best!
Hardware should match
Absolutely!
For the price of these RVs, the manufacturer should have given greater attention to detail. It would not have been cost prohibitive for the manufacturer to have the hardware and appliances match in color. As it is, it seems as if the construction had been haphazard; using whatever was available at the warehouse/plant without thought or effort for quality control.
@@OlsenTheWonderDog Totally agree! We, The RVers, deserve better!
Thanks for watching and for your comment!
Mike
These were very cool! I may sound like a broken record ; but I sure wish you could tour the Snoozy plant, it is in a new location but still in South Carolina.
Next time we are in the South Carolina area we will have to reach out to Snoozy Camper! We love fiberglass! Thank you for the suggestion and thank you for your support!
Hi the east to west has no drawers for silverware, Hate slide-outs.
Good points!
Thanks for watching!
Mike
I agree about location of the cubbies over the cabin - However the TV is well located to watch when sitting at the Dinette - Are you having any reviews on the Entrada 210NS (No slides) - We are looking at that one as a potential purchase ... Thanks for doing great reviews!
Thank you and you're welcome! We have not come across that floor plan yet, but would love too! Best of luck to you. We appreciate your support!
It would be better to me if it all matches. I’m not a fan of that gold or what ever you call it. But the set up is nice.😊
Agree! Glad you liked the floor plan. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
How does the bed fold up so that the wall retracts?
Which RV are you asking about?
I like the microwave up high because I can’t bend down that easily and the design with the low microwave seemed awkward to read the buttons/ program the microwave.
That's fair. I'm vertically challenged (Susan) and sometimes a microwave too high poses a problem. But I understand back and knee issues bending down. Countertop height is ideal. Thanks OlsenTheWonderDog!
@ Both my wife and I are vertically challenged as well. While I would agree with you that the ideal location for a microwave would be countertop level, countertop space is a premium commodity in an RV kitchen so I would not sacrifice the countertop to accommodate a microwave. Other than the placing the microwave up high in an upper cabinet space, another option would be to mount a microwave below a high cabinet so that it is at eye-level and leaving the countertop free of space. Yes, such a placement would intrude the space immediately above the countertop, but it would still provide enough room (depending on the dimensions of the microwave) to use the countertop for food prep. Just a thought.
@@OlsenTheWonderDog I like it! Great idea!
Thanks again
Please mention how much the maximum weight the over head beds can hold.
Great suggestion but the manufacturers don't list that information anywhere that we have seen or we would!
The bunk is definitely backwards.
Looks that way!
Thanks for watching!
Mike
One time, just one time I want you to get four adult or even two adults and two kids and have them sit in the dinette and see how comfortable they are. Put some food with drinks plates silverware and ready show how "comfortable" they ate
hmmmm! Great point. I think we could do that at an RV show. Thanks for the tip! And thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
I occasionally parallel park my class C. Why can't the slide come out on the passenger side?
Sorry, not quite sure what you mean. Could you rephrase? Which motorhome? Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Can you recommend an RV that you can park in a regular spot and not need a toad? Thanks
Hi Renee, one big reason we review so many Class C RVs under 25 feet is because they fit in most campsites. But can you clarify your question a bit so I can give a better answer?
Thanks!
Mike
Odd how expensive these things have become. Like 25% more than a truck plus travel trailer.
It all depends what type of chassis they sit on and how popular they are in the market place. If they sit on a Mercedes chassis they will be close to $200K. On a Ford, Dodge or Chevy chassis they would come in much lower. Plus - remember we only show the MSRP and its a buyers market now so you can expect to negotiate 35 to 40% off the price.
We only show the MSRP and it's a buyers market so you can expect to negotiate 35 to 40% off the price.
Maybe I'm just a bit picky but for the kinds of prices they're asking for these days I expect better more logical use of space in floor plans, matching accessories through out the coach. Each of these coaches had at least 4-5 immediate changes that I'd have to make right away before talking them on a trip. It's kinda like they go high end on one item and then cheap out on something else.
You're not wrong! Floor plans and features in smaller motorhomes isn't always smart. Practically is more important to me than high end design. Thank you!
Please be aware we only show the MSRP and since its a buyers market you can expect to negotiate 35 to 40 % off of MSRP. So you can pay less for a model that will require 4 to 5 changes you would like to make. lol. I'm kidding and we agree - these rigs should be better for the money we pay for them.
Thanks for watching and for your comment!
Mike
why do over mount sinks still exist?
Good question: Over mount sinks exist because not all countertops allow for an under mount sink because the sides of the countertop would be exposed to water with an under mount sink. It's just that simple. Thanks for watching!
Mike
I would rather have the microwave convection oven too low as to have it too high.i have to use a step stool to use the microwave oven in my trailer and worry about spilling things getting them out.
AGREE! I'm 5'1" too high is more dangerous than too low. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
$110K+ for that East West and the door on the cabinet above the dinette doesn't even close flush, it's hanging open. How'd something like that get out of the factory? And you're right, that TV and cab over bed is laid out all wrong. That tells me no attention to detail. And East West is supposed to be a "good" brand.
There are very few "good brands" because most RVs are built in the same place with the same materials and appliances by the same people.
Attention to details… it says we built it, not that we threw it together with what we had leftover
Tv is at the wrong end or relocate headboard
Not all features are thought out successfully 🤣 Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
I would have to say that the manufacture missed the point on this Class C. The bunk area is defiantly backwards, the head should have been located at the other end. Also the microwave should be located at the top not the bottom of the cabinets. We have ours on the bottom and I am literally on my hands and knees just to operate it. Hope they do better in the next motorhomes they build.
I think the layout of that Class C could definitely be improved upon.
Thanks for watching!
Mike
Microwave needs to be up high or make it a drawer Microwave.
oooo... a drawer microwave...no that's an interesting idea!
Thanks for your comment!
Mike
Why would you ever have a bed where you absolutely have to open the slide to sleep in it?
That is very common in RVs. Not ideal, but common. Slides provide so much more living space but the downside is cramped or unusable space when they are inoperable. Unfortunately we know this all too well LOL! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Big no on all of them.. even for 25% off MSRP.. I'll pass on em.. uninspiring vehicles....
Hi Pesto...Actually you can expect to negotiate 35 to 40% off of the MSRP. They may still be a no for you but I want to make sure anyone who reads this comment gets the correct info.
Thanks for watching!
Mike
@@RVBlogger 40% off MSRP would be a nice surprise... a $30K item for $18 makes all these super interesting!
@@pesto12601 40% off is what we saw at the Hershey RV Show and MD RV Show in the past couple months. It's a buyers market right now!
I like crank out windows, so none of them impressed me.
Why do you like crank out windows over the sliding type? I like them better too because they don't let water in if it rains...
Thanks for watching!
Mike
No way I would pay what they are asking for any of these cheap looking rigs.
We only show the MSRP and it's a buyers market now so you can expect to negotiate 35 to 40% off the price.
Thanks for watching!
Mike
For this poor quality and at those prices … absolutely “no thanks”!
I understand your disappointment. You're right, these are not cheap! But remember - we only show the MSRP which you should NEVER PAY. And it's a buyers market so you can expect to negotiate 35 to 40% off of MSRP
clever gimmicky lights...yeah right!!!
too many compromises and very inefficient/layout of space for a ridiculously high price. cheap cabinets and drawers. very poor choice!!!
all 3 of these are wayyyyyyy overpriced and feature shitty construction and cheap materials
are you kidding? pretty crappy cabinets & especially the flimsy shallow drawers.
gulfstr ok for 2 but again mediocre quality of construction.