this precon is unfortunately one of the worst they've ever done if our metric is quality of deck compared to the price the deck sells for. The only consolation I'm seeing are LGS's selling it for cheaper than they paid for it. I'm struggling to see how these deck releases aren't a severe step back for the consumer, if they were to do well it would tell wizards they can charge double and we'll pay it. It's for this reason I hope these decks sell poorly if only so wizard's doesn't try this again.
It's really nice to see more and more crew members of the command zone participating/being hosts in the podcast and other episodes but I will always have a soft spot for Jimmy and Josh, they always make my day when they show up
Reconnaissance is also probably one of the best additions to anikthea, since it allows her to untap after every combat at the end of combat step - which is basically vigilance for 1 white - and if somebody decides to block your commander you can just remove her from combat for 0 mana
Actually it's even better than that, if I'm not mistake it's literally a free attack trigger. You swing with Anikthea, get her trigger, then before blockers are declared, activate Reconnaissance.
I made a Narci deck since I already have a Go-Shintai deck. Narci can get out of hand fairly quickly, especially with proliferation. Churning through sagas and getting additional abilities lends itself to a more accelerated game speed for a mid-range deck. I highly recommend it!!!
With Greater Good be aware that if you sacrifice a copy made with anikethea it won't come back. Anikthea exiles the card she makes a copy of and it never returns to the graveyard so she can only do it once per Enchantment
I mean, the fact that this "not premium" premium commander deck doesn't even include a pain land, let alone a Battlebond land, says more about this "not premium" premium deck's construction than anything else could. I'm not even asking for three pain lands, just the one single pain land like Llanowar Wastes or something. WotC couldn't even do that...
I'm disappointed to hear about the value. However, I effectively have no enchantress staples and was considering buying one anyways, so as long as that value quotient is higher than 1, I may want it anyways, especially since it looks to contain nearly evey backbone enchantress card.
This was the precon I was the least excited about. After seeing the reviews and a couple matches where people used the precons in a 4 player pod, I'm now really excited to get it sleeved and on the table.
Personally going to be taking out both omens, some of the sagas and Narcie, using them for an separate build, agree with you on Arasta, she's going to head over to Shelob and dreadhorde invasion over to Sauron. As for added cards, playing up the theme will be adding some of the GOOD Theros gods like Sun Crowned Heliod, Karametra, Athreos, and Nylea. Calix, Guided by Fate, reconnaisance, Nylea's Colossus, and Aura Shards all seem pretty good as well
The more news I hear about MTG, the more I'm glad I switched over to using proxies instead of real cards. This game keeps getting more expensive and you seem to get less value from what you buy. I just play casually and haven't had any complaints so far using proxies.
I've built both narci and anikthea! each do their own thing but fulfill the mission of the design team: make enchantress in black and have it feel very black!
I’m stoked to upgrade this deck. The MVP of my deck is gonna be Grim Guardian (really surprised this wasn’t included in your upgrades). Adding that, calix guided by fate, agent of erebos & Thoughtrender lamia are all getting added to my deck as well. Running lots of cheap enchantments, kinda breaking the rules a little bit by including some auras like utopia sprawl, rancor & Kaya’s ghostform, but I think they are all worth it. Taking out all thing saga related as well as the secondary commander in the precon. Really just wanna slam down as many enchantments as possible. Also adding the sanguine bond/ exquisite blood combo because they’re enchantments and I don’t have the combo in any other deck 😂
i basically added all the theros gods i could because anikthea can still make full use of them if they go to the graveyard, sphere of safety and ghostly prison for defence, enchantments with banishing effects, and i also added a number of cards with populate to abuse etb and sacrifice effects. I also added pull from eternity just because.
I wonder if they'll ever print a cycle of enchantment lands (similar to the Mirrodin artifact lands). Theros Beyond Death would have been a great place for them.
Honestly, yes, this deck (and the other CM decks) is overcosted, but I agree: this is a good enchantress deck. But, honestly, yes, the manabase is in fact butts. Kill two birds with one stone, WoTC: add value to this otherwise legit decent deck by putting Fetches, shocks or, at least, Battlebond-style lands.
I agree with every choices for the upgrades, i was a bit surprised not to see Song of the Worldsoul in the deck, it seems so impressive with anikthea, even if you're not playing tokens. I tried putting some populate cards to double my copies. I also tried to be lore agressive than i usually am with Collective Blessing, i love reanimating it and making zombie tokens huge 6/6 menace 😅 I love enchantress so much and can't wait to try my upgraded precon. Great hosts by the way, as always, two of my favourites 😊
As much as I understand the hate for the masters precons, I fell in love with the design and gameplay aspect of anikthea. I almost completely removed the enchantress aspect of the deck in place of a self milling package, as well as removing a lot of the stac-esque pieces for board wide buffing and more graveyard recursion. Also decided to slot in helm of the host for as many triggers of anikthea as possible
Please stop doing upgrades $50 or at least offer budget brews again. The last several decks were over $100 of buying the deck and including your budget which no longer becomes a budget buy becomes a small investment
Got this deck for my wife and already did some upgrades for it. Swapped the Enchantresses (cause non-enchantment creatures) for Nylea, God of the Hunt and Tymaret, Chosen from Death. Swapped Omen of the Sun for Fang of Shingeki, giving a 1/1 deathtouch that becomes a 3/3 when it gets brought back vs a coupe 1/1 human tokens and a scry. Love Song of Night and Day for Fated Intervention, very meh Saga for some extra bodies. And replaced Narci with Kaya, Intangible Slayer. Her -3 gives good removal that steals enemy enchants for yourself which fits well with the idea of the deck. Definitely going to look into some of your recs too
Familiar ground I really like in this deck “opponents can only block with one creature” and all of your stuff has menace so it’s all unblockable. Also elemental bond seems great to draw every time a zombie gets summoned in. Non budget options should be cards like parallel lives and anointed procession to triple up on the tokens
My first include was Ancestral Mask, makes getting those attack tiggers a lot easier and you can start smacking others real fast with commander damage.
I totally went the other way with anikthea. I only run about 28 enchantments, but instead of blinking, I use anikthea's trigger just a couple of times to start a population train and get a lot of copies of a single enchantment (I.E. court of ambition) and win the game that way.
Actually Touch of the Sprit Realm could do crazy things like : attack with commander hold prio on trigger use channel to blink and have a second trigger on the stack exile an anthem effect with the first trigger using the second to copy Touch and remove a bloker
Doesn’t the damage not go through since they already declared blockers? I know if you declare a blocker and the attacker removes it, the damage still doesn’t go through
@@jonathantavitian7283 the point is they've not declared blockers yet, the trigger happen on declare attack phase since it's say "when enters the battlefield or attack" so u attack but before the attack trigger resolves of the stack u do the blink trick with Touch to put it in the graveyard and copy it with the etb effect
If you have the money (or get the Hewlett-Packard Secret Lair) add Song of the World Soul, Anointed Procession/Doubling Season/Parallel Lives and Familiar Ground.
If you think about it the basic shell of enchantress decks is quite cheap (compared to other Commander Master precon themes for example), but what makes it NOT cheap are RL cards that power up the archetype significantly: Serra’s Sanctum, Replenish, Opalescence and so on.
We would have gone with adding more enchantments that sac themselves like "Seal of Cleaning" and/or "Seal of Doom" so then we can use them again with Anikthea. But solid recommendations 😎
I definitely like my Mazzy, Truesword Paladin deck better as an offensive Enchantress deck, but this one does have potential. Plus, I can put my favorite Treefolk, Doran, into it for fun
My top three for sweet and cheap tech cards is probably… 1. Pull from Eternity: Re-Reanimate one of your best enchantments in exile. 2. Familiar Ground: Basically unblockable for all your menace creatures. 3. Zombie Infestation: Not only advances your board as an enchantment but also enables to you to discard your reanimate targets for Anikthea at instant speed before your turn, to get the element of surprise.
This is my rendition of the deck, I included nearly all of the 10 cards mentioned in this video except for maybe 2 or so. Erebos, God of the Dead > Erebos, Bleak Hearted. Nyxbloom Ancient > Greater Tanuki Sterling Grove > Narci, Fable Singer Weaver of Harmony > Farseek Teleportation Circle > Rampant Growth Vessel of Nascency > Path to Exile Greater Good > Battle at the Helvault Shigeki, Jukai Visionary > Binding the Old Gods Eerie Ultimatum > Cast Out Bloodchief Ascension > Love Song of Night and Day Hallowed Haunting > Omen of the Sun Calix, Guided by Fate > The Binding of the Titans Virtue of Persistence > The Eldest Reborn Oppression > Nyx Weaver Land Tax > Font of Fertility Arvinox, the Mind Flail > Arasya of the Endless Web Resurgent Belief > Archon of the Sun's Grace Court of Ambition > Spirited Companion Nylea, God of the Hunt > Nyxborn Behemoth Commune with the Gods > Dreadhorde Invasion, Virtue of Loyalty > Ghoulish Impetus Priviledged Position > Felidar Retreat
brodettes WTF DO YOU MEAN TAKE THE WORM OUT?! I had 11 HP all of my opponents creatures were flying and I had just gotten enough mana to cast it. it chained into constellations to draw and cast creatures from my hand as I drew them. my board filled in one turn and he had no answer and had to concede 😂 my worm stopped his vehicle army of death.
Yooo I must be a psychic cause I had a feeling Ashlen will be in the Eldrazi precon upgrade episode and Ladee Danger will be in this enchantress precon upgrade episode! And lo and behold I'm right! Always good to see my fave Command Zone gals talking about magic! More, please!
I bought this deck, so I'm eager to see what swaps are made for a $50 budget. I've been impressed with some of the more recent precon decks they come out of the gates with a fair amount of synergy and power. For example I bought the Revenant Recon dimir, surveil deck and packs a punch. I just upgraded it, however after sales and taxes from TCG player it was a $470 upgrade😮💨
Not sure what saga cards are in the deck but by the sounds of it, it seems like a small niche was carved out for Narci. I'd probably just cut Narci, and all 7 saga cards...
You're putting in greater good, but you're removing abundance. Literally you're removing the combo that let you draw a lot of cards. Granted it is enchantress so I guess I understand. Maybe I'll pick something different, but thank you for the video
Nice Additions but i wont build it on such hard Budget... Replenish is a must have for me as a Competitive Player,a little Bit Fuck Up Your Opponent with Spells Like Opression etc:)
I got it for $74 on an impulse buy and definitely felt a little miffed after looking over the cards. Like the deck is technically fine, but just fine. I can rework it and buff it up, but I'd hoped I'd have a fully buffed out deck ready to compete instead of needing to fix it 😞
Can you guys put time skips into these videos? I just want the upgrade portion and over half the video isn't that. The evaluation part up front is great content, so don't cut it. I just already bought the deck so I don't care for this specific deck.
I just got into Magic The Gathering 2 weeks ago, and this was my first deck. LOVED playing it, it feels so fun, and it feels like I can do so many little things depending on the situation that's put in front of me. Sometimes I do find myself a bit unsure on how certain things resolve, such as when 'Sagas resolve but they're 3/3 black zombie tokens but then you create copies of the tokens you control by the 3rd Sage' sort of scenarios.
Really? I lost with the deck in all my five games. The mana bank is just terrible and you often don't even get your Commander out. Truly thinking about switching altogether...
It's a recurring gag on the show, pronouncing the "c" as "ch" and the "e" as its own syllable, as if it was a Latin word. Basically just being silly ;)
I’ve been using that pronunciation since I first played Strong Bad’s Cool Game for Attractive People Episode 2: Strong Badia the Free, when the narrator used it once (he thought it was an Italian word). This would have been 2009 or so.
I’m surprised no Riftsweeper or Pull from Eternity. They’re not specifically enchantments but they can reclaim the enchantments you exiled to use again later. And if you’ve got a spare blink with Teleportation Circle, blinking Riftsweeper is a nice backup to Anikthea if there is no great reanimator choice.
A little late to the party, but here at work we have a precon league, and Anikthea is the one I run. It has NO mana issues. There are so many "if you play an enchantment draw a card" and "do anything to search for 1 or 2 basic lands" that by turn 5 or 6 the deck empties itself and you are in danger of milling yourself. this happens every single game. The card to drop is Cacophony Unleashed. Yes its a good card, however this deck creates so many NON enchantment tokens that you need as your main army (Wurms, Angels, Birds) that it rarely gets used unless defensively when your army has just me board wiped... again. Which leads to the biggest problem the deck has, no haste and no ways to make critters indestructible. I f either of those two fixes were in then this deck woul dbe come pretty unstoppable. My turn 6 board state last night went from 'I has a creature!' to 26 +24/+24 flying angles -With support in one turn. -Board wiped before I could attack. Turn 7 70% replication... and board wiped again. Turn 8 50% replication and board wiped. It has power coming out its ears, and no way to get that last push to get it over the line with the OOBE experience. Using the alt commander at least gives global damage every time a saga concludes, and you can cycle those back into the deck once. Add an Akromas Memorial and this deck is terrifying. Don't and everyone whose played against it just saves a board wipes for it and ignores your scary ramp turning it into a 3 player game you get to watch.
Oh and the commander sucks. By the time you start turning out Zombies, they cant get through any defenses and your sacrificing your enchantments that you might be able to recycle back into the deck via Saga. The only benefit you get from Anikthea is that it gives your enchantment creatures Menace. She would be the first thing I replace to give the deck a buff.
if Anikthea triggered ability targets an enchantment creature, will it add the 3/3 to its stats or will the p/t change into a 3/3. For example, nyxborn behemoth has 10/10 is the target for anikthea's abiility, will it become a 3/3 or a 13/13?
Ah, Doomwake Giant, my favorite card from Journey into Nyx. I won several standard tournaments with a 5-color enchantment deck, being able to play Doomwake Giant, Eidolon of Blossoms and clones, it wasn't uncommon to have 3 or 4 (or sometimes more) Doomwakes on board, good luck to any opponent keeping a board presence with that.
Song of the World Soul, Growing Ranks, and Calix, Guided by Fate are all great ways to get copies of your already bonkers enchantment zombies. Deadbridge Chant for fantastic mill and recursion. My all time fav tech is Argentum Masticore, get a big boi that is hard to block plus discard to blow up stuff?! Nutty.
Well I definitely pulled a Ladee Danger in the “cards to add” section. Here am I thinking “what? No destiny spinner?? No nyx weaver? O, it’s already in the deck 😅. I play an enchantment deck on arena, and I’ve found it’s a little lacking in the flying department, so I like to keep sandwurm convergence. Do have to say tho, I think arcane signet is a bit of a hot take; I understand it’s not an enchantment as far as ramp is concerned, but it is repeatable, which is not something that enchantment “ramp” can do effectively, and it’s one of the best rocks in commander.
I know you guys have been saying how these precon decks aren't very good value but here in Australia everyone trades setting the value of cards at cardkingdom prices but treat it as though one US dollar is equal to one Australian dollar (think it's 1 USD to 1.66 AUD) so our decks are worth one third lower (roughly) than in the USA. So it's probably cheaper to buy these as singles rather than the precons here. I don't know who started the trend CK 1:1 but it has really made the cards in the sealed product almost not worth getting.
Something to note, Narci is totally a cut from Anikthea. Can’t wait to do abzan sagas or put it in tam Bambadil, but definitely doesn’t belong. Anikthea on the other hand still definitely goes in Narci’s 99
I love Narci as a commander herself as more of a control deck. Since we're in black we can play cards like Doom Foretold and Spirit-Sister's Call to sacrifice our own things to get good effects. We can also play some "fun" black enchantments like words of waste, Bottomless Pit, Oppression, and Necrogen Mists which gives us a purpose with all of our insane draw we get in enchantress.There's also plenty of enchantments that sacrifice themselves for benefits like Defense of the heart, the seals, aura of silence, and soul snare. Also since Narci has lifelink, you can have sanguine bond/exquisite blood combo in here and just swing with your commander to win. Also, It can give Vraska, Golgari Queen a home.
I am so disappointed with the precons from this set. It's so frustrating that wizards put jank duals in the precon and reprint the Crowd Lands in the mainset. For someone like myself who has been playing commander for a few years, I have a number of decks and picked up all the good lands, but it's not cool for a newer player who may like the look of these decks and struggle to play with them out the box.
I grabbed my box of enchantress staples and my lands. Replacing the tanted lands with the commander lands, Serra's Sanctuary, Hall of Heliod's generosity. Some other reserved list cards i have. As for Ladee Danger being weird its okay. *looks at his true crime collection*
$50 budget on an already crazy expensive product feels bad. I really enjoyed the budget upgrades from a while ago, would love to see that + include some pricey "honorable mentions" on the back end. Love this video regardless, thanks all!
I'd try to add Call of the Ring as a cheap enchantment that can potentially be a draw effect. But the biggest impact from my PoV would be to give your commander a lot easier time attacking with Menace and Stage 1 Ring-Bearer. Even "Shortcut to Mushrooms" might be funny though that one might be too slow. But alot of cards exit your side of the table due to Sac Outlets.
I know many of us do buy these decks whole, as-is, for out-of-the-box Commander fun, but even then, it's still insulting for Wizards to sell a premium product and gaslight us about it being premium.
How did Composer of Spring not get a mention? That's one of the best cards in that deck. Also, Privileged Position goes great with Sterling Grove. At that point its board wipe or nothing. Your stuff can't be touched.
Legion Loyalty is a great include. Gives all your creatures Myriad. Even your commander! Tokens die due to legends rule but you will get extra ETB and it can be cheated in cutting the 8 CMC.
Sooooo spicy tech from me for this deck that feels super on theme is manabond. One green for a burst of ramp/ filling your graveyard. It's a bit high risk but the ceiling on this one doesn't seem to exist
I went a completely different route with anikthea, focusing more on self mill. Out of the tombs does WORK. Fills the graveyard pretty darn quick and provides tons of targets. Slam legion loyalty for tons of constellation triggers to win the game and familiar group to turn menace into unblockable.
I'm surprised I'm not seeing more people suggesting familiar ground in their upgrade list. 1. It's an enchantment you can resurrect 2. It makes all enchantment creatures unblockable with anikthea out
Great pics for the deck. I would have added: Spirit-Sister's Call, Calix guided by fate, grim guardian, and any token doubbler to get more value out of the commander. 😊
What do you think of the “Enduring Enchantments” precon? Any cards we missed? Any cards we suggested to take out or add that you disagree with?
The absence of Song of the World Soul surprised me.
I'm surprised y'all didn't include Grim Guardian
this precon is unfortunately one of the worst they've ever done if our metric is quality of deck compared to the price the deck sells for. The only consolation I'm seeing are LGS's selling it for cheaper than they paid for it. I'm struggling to see how these deck releases aren't a severe step back for the consumer, if they were to do well it would tell wizards they can charge double and we'll pay it. It's for this reason I hope these decks sell poorly if only so wizard's doesn't try this again.
Privileged position fits the remaining budget and offers additional protection. I love nothing more than pairing that alongside sterling Grove lol
Dense Foliage.
Everytime I see the hosts of any episode i´m like "What a nice pairing". Anyways, Rachel and Ladee lets gooooo!
I somehow read hostages instead of hosts anyways let's gooooo!
It's really nice to see more and more crew members of the command zone participating/being hosts in the podcast and other episodes but I will always have a soft spot for Jimmy and Josh, they always make my day when they show up
Auratog is sad.
Auratog seems sweet in a Narci deck!
I love these precon talks, one of the few channels where people take their time to really go through the cards and alternatives. Great work!:)
Reconnaissance is also probably one of the best additions to anikthea, since it allows her to untap after every combat at the end of combat step - which is basically vigilance for 1 white - and if somebody decides to block your commander you can just remove her from combat for 0 mana
Wow that's a really sweet card, nice suggestion
Actually it's even better than that, if I'm not mistake it's literally a free attack trigger. You swing with Anikthea, get her trigger, then before blockers are declared, activate Reconnaissance.
I made a Narci deck since I already have a Go-Shintai deck. Narci can get out of hand fairly quickly, especially with proliferation. Churning through sagas and getting additional abilities lends itself to a more accelerated game speed for a mid-range deck. I highly recommend it!!!
With Greater Good be aware that if you sacrifice a copy made with anikethea it won't come back. Anikthea exiles the card she makes a copy of and it never returns to the graveyard so she can only do it once per Enchantment
Oh my I love Bang For your Buck so much
This deck is about $65 USD right now on TCG
Luckily in Australia it's about AU$90, which is about US$60. So actually not too bad for this deck
i really don't know why here in my city the price is so inflated!
I got it for 55 on cardmarket in Europe. But the official prize is ridiculous
I bought it for 45euros on crdmarkt ! s w e e t
I mean, the fact that this "not premium" premium commander deck doesn't even include a pain land, let alone a Battlebond land, says more about this "not premium" premium deck's construction than anything else could. I'm not even asking for three pain lands, just the one single pain land like Llanowar Wastes or something. WotC couldn't even do that...
I'm disappointed to hear about the value. However, I effectively have no enchantress staples and was considering buying one anyways, so as long as that value quotient is higher than 1, I may want it anyways, especially since it looks to contain nearly evey backbone enchantress card.
Same reason i bought mine im not regretting it the deck- mine is heavy upgraded tho- makes alot of fun to play
In a parallel universe, these two make commander decks for WotC and includes these upgrades for the same price as this universe.
This was the precon I was the least excited about. After seeing the reviews and a couple matches where people used the precons in a 4 player pod, I'm now really excited to get it sleeved and on the table.
Personally going to be taking out both omens, some of the sagas and Narcie, using them for an separate build, agree with you on Arasta, she's going to head over to Shelob and dreadhorde invasion over to Sauron. As for added cards, playing up the theme will be adding some of the GOOD Theros gods like Sun Crowned Heliod, Karametra, Athreos, and Nylea. Calix, Guided by Fate, reconnaisance, Nylea's Colossus, and Aura Shards all seem pretty good as well
The more news I hear about MTG, the more I'm glad I switched over to using proxies instead of real cards. This game keeps getting more expensive and you seem to get less value from what you buy. I just play casually and haven't had any complaints so far using proxies.
I miss Josh and Jimmy 😢 not a knock on anyone but I miss the OG Command Zone
We always crave thetime we were further from death.
I've built both narci and anikthea! each do their own thing but fulfill the mission of the design team: make enchantress in black and have it feel very black!
I’m stoked to upgrade this deck. The MVP of my deck is gonna be Grim Guardian (really surprised this wasn’t included in your upgrades). Adding that, calix guided by fate, agent of erebos & Thoughtrender lamia are all getting added to my deck as well. Running lots of cheap enchantments, kinda breaking the rules a little bit by including some auras like utopia sprawl, rancor & Kaya’s ghostform, but I think they are all worth it. Taking out all thing saga related as well as the secondary commander in the precon. Really just wanna slam down as many enchantments as possible. Also adding the sanguine bond/ exquisite blood combo because they’re enchantments and I don’t have the combo in any other deck 😂
Super excited to have another Enchantment Commander that looks interesting to me!!!
i basically added all the theros gods i could because anikthea can still make full use of them if they go to the graveyard, sphere of safety and ghostly prison for defence, enchantments with banishing effects, and i also added a number of cards with populate to abuse etb and sacrifice effects. I also added pull from eternity just because.
I wonder if they'll ever print a cycle of enchantment lands (similar to the Mirrodin artifact lands). Theros Beyond Death would have been a great place for them.
Honestly, yes, this deck (and the other CM decks) is overcosted, but I agree: this is a good enchantress deck. But, honestly, yes, the manabase is in fact butts.
Kill two birds with one stone, WoTC: add value to this otherwise legit decent deck by putting Fetches, shocks or, at least, Battlebond-style lands.
I agree with every choices for the upgrades, i was a bit surprised not to see Song of the Worldsoul in the deck, it seems so impressive with anikthea, even if you're not playing tokens. I tried putting some populate cards to double my copies. I also tried to be lore agressive than i usually am with Collective Blessing, i love reanimating it and making zombie tokens huge 6/6 menace 😅
I love enchantress so much and can't wait to try my upgraded precon.
Great hosts by the way, as always, two of my favourites 😊
As much as I understand the hate for the masters precons, I fell in love with the design and gameplay aspect of anikthea. I almost completely removed the enchantress aspect of the deck in place of a self milling package, as well as removing a lot of the stac-esque pieces for board wide buffing and more graveyard recursion. Also decided to slot in helm of the host for as many triggers of anikthea as possible
Do people really play o-ring effects? Even in enchantments I don't play these cards.
Please stop doing upgrades $50 or at least offer budget brews again.
The last several decks were over $100 of buying the deck and including your budget which no longer becomes a budget buy becomes a small investment
I love both of you, and i'm crazy bout this deck.
Nylea collossus is a great add in the deck
My gf used cunning rhetoric against my eldrazi and kept snatching my annihilators
I made mine more into the token area. Also zombie synergies too like zombie infestation, liliana's mastery, endless ranks of the undead.
I love this commander. Sythis, destiny spinner, star field mystic, and Alseid all seem pretty good here
Got this deck for my wife and already did some upgrades for it. Swapped the Enchantresses (cause non-enchantment creatures) for Nylea, God of the Hunt and Tymaret, Chosen from Death. Swapped Omen of the Sun for Fang of Shingeki, giving a 1/1 deathtouch that becomes a 3/3 when it gets brought back vs a coupe 1/1 human tokens and a scry. Love Song of Night and Day for Fated Intervention, very meh Saga for some extra bodies. And replaced Narci with Kaya, Intangible Slayer. Her -3 gives good removal that steals enemy enchants for yourself which fits well with the idea of the deck. Definitely going to look into some of your recs too
Luckily the price of this precon is dropping quite nicely. Already at 50 bucks in Europe.
Familiar ground I really like in this deck “opponents can only block with one creature” and all of your stuff has menace so it’s all unblockable. Also elemental bond seems great to draw every time a zombie gets summoned in. Non budget options should be cards like parallel lives and anointed procession to triple up on the tokens
My first include was Ancestral Mask, makes getting those attack tiggers a lot easier and you can start smacking others real fast with commander damage.
Played with this last night and it was so freaking fun! Can't wait to grab some upgrades
I totally went the other way with anikthea. I only run about 28 enchantments, but instead of blinking, I use anikthea's trigger just a couple of times to start a population train and get a lot of copies of a single enchantment (I.E. court of ambition) and win the game that way.
Yeah, i also run a discard subtheme in the deck with painful quandary and thoughtrender lamia
Actually Touch of the Sprit Realm could do crazy things like : attack with commander hold prio on trigger use channel to blink and have a second trigger on the stack exile an anthem effect with the first trigger using the second to copy Touch and remove a bloker
Doesn’t the damage not go through since they already declared blockers? I know if you declare a blocker and the attacker removes it, the damage still doesn’t go through
@@jonathantavitian7283 the point is they've not declared blockers yet, the trigger happen on declare attack phase since it's say "when enters the battlefield or attack" so u attack but before the attack trigger resolves of the stack u do the blink trick with Touch to put it in the graveyard and copy it with the etb effect
loving rachels waynes world cosplay 😂❤
I´m in love with Narci and have ordered a deck that cares more about the sacrificing part while having a subtheme of sagas. Can´t wait to try it out.
Good upgrades Rachel and Ladee!
Ladee and Rachel?? Two of my fav peoples!! Enchantress is my fav Archetype. This episode feels like a gift lol. Thanks command zone
I was so excited to upgrade it! chefs kiss
If you have the money (or get the Hewlett-Packard Secret Lair) add Song of the World Soul, Anointed Procession/Doubling Season/Parallel Lives and Familiar Ground.
If you think about it the basic shell of enchantress decks is quite cheap (compared to other Commander Master precon themes for example), but what makes it NOT cheap are RL cards that power up the archetype significantly: Serra’s Sanctum, Replenish, Opalescence and so on.
We would have gone with adding more enchantments that sac themselves like "Seal of Cleaning" and/or "Seal of Doom" so then we can use them again with Anikthea. But solid recommendations 😎
I definitely like my Mazzy, Truesword Paladin deck better as an offensive Enchantress deck, but this one does have potential. Plus, I can put my favorite Treefolk, Doran, into it for fun
My top three for sweet and cheap tech cards is probably…
1. Pull from Eternity: Re-Reanimate one of your best enchantments in exile.
2. Familiar Ground: Basically unblockable for all your menace creatures.
3. Zombie Infestation: Not only advances your board as an enchantment but also enables to you to discard your reanimate targets for Anikthea at instant speed before your turn, to get the element of surprise.
Familiar Ground is great tech. I like that a lot. - Rachel
This is my rendition of the deck, I included nearly all of the 10 cards mentioned in this video except for maybe 2 or so.
Erebos, God of the Dead > Erebos, Bleak Hearted. Nyxbloom Ancient > Greater Tanuki
Sterling Grove > Narci, Fable Singer
Weaver of Harmony > Farseek
Teleportation Circle > Rampant Growth
Vessel of Nascency > Path to Exile
Greater Good > Battle at the Helvault
Shigeki, Jukai Visionary > Binding the Old Gods
Eerie Ultimatum > Cast Out
Bloodchief Ascension > Love Song of Night and Day
Hallowed Haunting > Omen of the Sun
Calix, Guided by Fate > The Binding of the Titans
Virtue of Persistence > The Eldest Reborn
Oppression > Nyx Weaver
Land Tax > Font of Fertility
Arvinox, the Mind Flail > Arasya of the Endless Web
Resurgent Belief > Archon of the Sun's Grace
Court of Ambition > Spirited Companion
Nylea, God of the Hunt > Nyxborn Behemoth
Commune with the Gods > Dreadhorde Invasion, Virtue of Loyalty > Ghoulish Impetus
Priviledged Position > Felidar Retreat
brodettes WTF DO YOU MEAN TAKE THE WORM OUT?! I had 11 HP all of my opponents creatures were flying and I had just gotten enough mana to cast it. it chained into constellations to draw and cast creatures from my hand as I drew them. my board filled in one turn and he had no answer and had to concede 😂 my worm stopped his vehicle army of death.
Yooo I must be a psychic cause I had a feeling Ashlen will be in the Eldrazi precon upgrade episode and Ladee Danger will be in this enchantress precon upgrade episode! And lo and behold I'm right! Always good to see my fave Command Zone gals talking about magic! More, please!
Need more of these pairing of hosts. Very energetic!
I like the idea of an aristocratic theme on a Narci build. Focused on enchantment creatures.
I bought this deck, so I'm eager to see what swaps are made for a $50 budget. I've been impressed with some of the more recent precon decks they come out of the gates with a fair amount of synergy and power. For example I bought the Revenant Recon dimir, surveil deck and packs a punch. I just upgraded it, however after sales and taxes from TCG player it was a $470 upgrade😮💨
They could have just thrown in an argothian enchantress and made this deck worth it to me
The first one to comment! Ta-daaa!!
This deck is absurdly powerful and fun
Not sure what saga cards are in the deck but by the sounds of it, it seems like a small niche was carved out for Narci. I'd probably just cut Narci, and all 7 saga cards...
You're putting in greater good, but you're removing abundance. Literally you're removing the combo that let you draw a lot of cards. Granted it is enchantress so I guess I understand. Maybe I'll pick something different, but thank you for the video
Nice Additions but i wont build it on such hard Budget... Replenish is a must have for me as a Competitive Player,a little Bit Fuck Up Your Opponent with Spells Like Opression etc:)
I got it for $74 on an impulse buy and definitely felt a little miffed after looking over the cards. Like the deck is technically fine, but just fine. I can rework it and buff it up, but I'd hoped I'd have a fully buffed out deck ready to compete instead of needing to fix it 😞
Can you guys put time skips into these videos? I just want the upgrade portion and over half the video isn't that. The evaluation part up front is great content, so don't cut it. I just already bought the deck so I don't care for this specific deck.
17:52 Gold. Made me laugh. Straight up!
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Wizards of the coast are destroying Magic with their pricing politics...Wizard you are making it really hard for the fans to stay with you...
I just got into Magic The Gathering 2 weeks ago, and this was my first deck. LOVED playing it, it feels so fun, and it feels like I can do so many little things depending on the situation that's put in front of me. Sometimes I do find myself a bit unsure on how certain things resolve, such as when 'Sagas resolve but they're 3/3 black zombie tokens but then you create copies of the tokens you control by the 3rd Sage' sort of scenarios.
Really? I lost with the deck in all my five games. The mana bank is just terrible and you often don't even get your Commander out. Truly thinking about switching altogether...
I feel like sterling grove should have just been in the deck from the get go... WHY WOTC, WHY???
I whach A guy combo of with mariy wake with 4 copes and a giant bord out of the box unslived and lost in 20 minets
I love this deck overall but I will buy singles or wait for sale
Precons selling for $51 right now, and the reprint value is sitting at $122. awesome.
Rachel Weeks be looking like Wayne from Wayne's World in this series of videos. It's awesome.
"Menatje"??? WTF? This is the second time I've heard this kind of pronounciation. Isn't it pronounced: "Mænass" (Like in Dennis the Menace)???
It's a recurring gag on the show, pronouncing the "c" as "ch" and the "e" as its own syllable, as if it was a Latin word.
Basically just being silly ;)
I’ve been using that pronunciation since I first played Strong Bad’s Cool Game for Attractive People Episode 2: Strong Badia the Free, when the narrator used it once (he thought it was an Italian word). This would have been 2009 or so.
Do i really need a podcast to tell me that Nyxbloom Ancient would be an upgrade for a precon?
I've waited years for an Abzan enchantments commander but, neither of these are it.
Why not just have it say "Enchantment Creatures you control have Menace"
I’m surprised no Riftsweeper or Pull from Eternity. They’re not specifically enchantments but they can reclaim the enchantments you exiled to use again later. And if you’ve got a spare blink with Teleportation Circle, blinking Riftsweeper is a nice backup to Anikthea if there is no great reanimator choice.
I see your Riftsweeper and raise you an Isochron Scepter
pull from eternity is a real GOAT in this deck. people will not consider the exiled doubling season but you certainly will.
sandwurm convergence stays lol. it saved me from the moth man.
Honestly Sandwurm Convergence is meh even when going the token route.
A little late to the party, but here at work we have a precon league, and Anikthea is the one I run. It has NO mana issues. There are so many "if you play an enchantment draw a card" and "do anything to search for 1 or 2 basic lands" that by turn 5 or 6 the deck empties itself and you are in danger of milling yourself. this happens every single game. The card to drop is Cacophony Unleashed. Yes its a good card, however this deck creates so many NON enchantment tokens that you need as your main army (Wurms, Angels, Birds) that it rarely gets used unless defensively when your army has just me board wiped... again. Which leads to the biggest problem the deck has, no haste and no ways to make critters indestructible. I f either of those two fixes were in then this deck woul dbe come pretty unstoppable. My turn 6 board state last night went from 'I has a creature!' to 26 +24/+24 flying angles -With support in one turn. -Board wiped before I could attack. Turn 7 70% replication... and board wiped again. Turn 8 50% replication and board wiped. It has power coming out its ears, and no way to get that last push to get it over the line with the OOBE experience. Using the alt commander at least gives global damage every time a saga concludes, and you can cycle those back into the deck once. Add an Akromas Memorial and this deck is terrifying. Don't and everyone whose played against it just saves a board wipes for it and ignores your scary ramp turning it into a 3 player game you get to watch.
Oh and the commander sucks. By the time you start turning out Zombies, they cant get through any defenses and your sacrificing your enchantments that you might be able to recycle back into the deck via Saga. The only benefit you get from Anikthea is that it gives your enchantment creatures Menace. She would be the first thing I replace to give the deck a buff.
You can go with solitary confinement 😂 or Santum weaver to get more mana
I got this deck for 60 so technically I did get double the value
What's that "set of an empty set" cap Rachel is wearing from?
If you reanimate doomwake giant is it still a 3/3?
if Anikthea triggered ability targets an enchantment creature, will it add the 3/3 to its stats or will the p/t change into a 3/3. For example, nyxborn behemoth has 10/10 is the target for anikthea's abiility, will it become a 3/3 or a 13/13?
Change to 3/3. Kinda like the new Pirates Commander, Admiral Unsinkable.
Enduring Upgrades!
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Ah, Doomwake Giant, my favorite card from Journey into Nyx. I won several standard tournaments with a 5-color enchantment deck, being able to play Doomwake Giant, Eidolon of Blossoms and clones, it wasn't uncommon to have 3 or 4 (or sometimes more) Doomwakes on board, good luck to any opponent keeping a board presence with that.
Song of the World Soul, Growing Ranks, and Calix, Guided by Fate are all great ways to get copies of your already bonkers enchantment zombies. Deadbridge Chant for fantastic mill and recursion. My all time fav tech is Argentum Masticore, get a big boi that is hard to block plus discard to blow up stuff?! Nutty.
Well I definitely pulled a Ladee Danger in the “cards to add” section. Here am I thinking “what? No destiny spinner?? No nyx weaver? O, it’s already in the deck 😅.
I play an enchantment deck on arena, and I’ve found it’s a little lacking in the flying department, so I like to keep sandwurm convergence. Do have to say tho, I think arcane signet is a bit of a hot take; I understand it’s not an enchantment as far as ramp is concerned, but it is repeatable, which is not something that enchantment “ramp” can do effectively, and it’s one of the best rocks in commander.
I know you guys have been saying how these precon decks aren't very good value but here in Australia everyone trades setting the value of cards at cardkingdom prices but treat it as though one US dollar is equal to one Australian dollar (think it's 1 USD to 1.66 AUD) so our decks are worth one third lower (roughly) than in the USA.
So it's probably cheaper to buy these as singles rather than the precons here.
I don't know who started the trend CK 1:1 but it has really made the cards in the sealed product almost not worth getting.
Something to note, Narci is totally a cut from Anikthea. Can’t wait to do abzan sagas or put it in tam Bambadil, but definitely doesn’t belong. Anikthea on the other hand still definitely goes in Narci’s 99
I love Narci as a commander herself as more of a control deck. Since we're in black we can play cards like Doom Foretold and Spirit-Sister's Call to sacrifice our own things to get good effects. We can also play some "fun" black enchantments like words of waste, Bottomless Pit, Oppression, and Necrogen Mists which gives us a purpose with all of our insane draw we get in enchantress.There's also plenty of enchantments that sacrifice themselves for benefits like Defense of the heart, the seals, aura of silence, and soul snare. Also since Narci has lifelink, you can have sanguine bond/exquisite blood combo in here and just swing with your commander to win. Also, It can give Vraska, Golgari Queen a home.
I am so disappointed with the precons from this set. It's so frustrating that wizards put jank duals in the precon and reprint the Crowd Lands in the mainset.
For someone like myself who has been playing commander for a few years, I have a number of decks and picked up all the good lands, but it's not cool for a newer player who may like the look of these decks and struggle to play with them out the box.
I grabbed my box of enchantress staples and my lands.
Replacing the tanted lands with the commander lands, Serra's Sanctuary, Hall of Heliod's generosity. Some other reserved list cards i have.
As for Ladee Danger being weird its okay.
*looks at his true crime collection*
$50 budget on an already crazy expensive product feels bad. I really enjoyed the budget upgrades from a while ago, would love to see that + include some pricey "honorable mentions" on the back end. Love this video regardless, thanks all!
I'd try to add Call of the Ring as a cheap enchantment that can potentially be a draw effect. But the biggest impact from my PoV would be to give your commander a lot easier time attacking with Menace and Stage 1 Ring-Bearer.
Even "Shortcut to Mushrooms" might be funny though that one might be too slow. But alot of cards exit your side of the table due to Sac Outlets.
I know many of us do buy these decks whole, as-is, for out-of-the-box Commander fun, but even then, it's still insulting for Wizards to sell a premium product and gaslight us about it being premium.
How did Composer of Spring not get a mention? That's one of the best cards in that deck. Also, Privileged Position goes great with Sterling Grove. At that point its board wipe or nothing. Your stuff can't be touched.
Rachel, where did you get your shirt?
Legion Loyalty is a great include. Gives all your creatures Myriad. Even your commander! Tokens die due to legends rule but you will get extra ETB and it can be cheated in cutting the 8 CMC.
Sooooo spicy tech from me for this deck that feels super on theme is manabond. One green for a burst of ramp/ filling your graveyard. It's a bit high risk but the ceiling on this one doesn't seem to exist
I went a completely different route with anikthea, focusing more on self mill. Out of the tombs does WORK. Fills the graveyard pretty darn quick and provides tons of targets. Slam legion loyalty for tons of constellation triggers to win the game and familiar group to turn menace into unblockable.
I'm surprised I'm not seeing more people suggesting familiar ground in their upgrade list. 1. It's an enchantment you can resurrect 2. It makes all enchantment creatures unblockable with anikthea out
Great pics for the deck.
I would have added:
Spirit-Sister's Call, Calix guided by fate, grim guardian, and any token doubbler to get more value out of the commander. 😊