to be fair, the eldrazi basically live in the space between planes and they only show up on a plane when they're hungry, they're more like planesmunchers
They don't even "show up", according to lore, that's simply like.... A manifestation of their being? Because they live in the blind eternities and the physical aspect of them is just that bleeding onto the planes?
I think there's a difference between "Plainswalk" (can't be blocked if opponent has a plains) and "Planeswalk" (being able to travel between planes. Plains and Planes are not the same word, and have wildly different meanings.
@@sofiaisgar7699 Nah, plains are their own dimension in MTG Lore, and plainswalkers need to use the plains dimension, called the plainsplane, as a hub to plainswalk
@@chasington5102 what?? All dimensions are by rule made up of plains, swamps, islands, mountains and forests. There has been no direct descriptions of how planeswalking works, so we can only speculate, but I imagine it does not need a middle ground. (if this was a joke and I misunderstood, I am sorry)
@@sofiaisgar7699, but every plane has grass, even New Phyrexia or Kaladesh, therefore they have planes and the creatures with plainswalk can walk between them
I planeswalked to the plane of 'Walmart' once. It had a lot of 1/1 human tokens that frightened me so I planeswalked the plane of 'My Room'. Being a Planeswalker is scary. Especially when I engage the planeswalker Mom, The Ultimate Authority in a battle of wits
How to create Planewalker in 5 easy steps: Step 1: Find the magic player who super invested in 100+ years plan of magic lore Step 2: Give them War of the Spark: Forsaken, and watch their life-altered with rage from how crappy of the book is Step 3: Watch their spark ignited and fly off to the better plane Step 4: Wear Sun Glasses Step 5: Smile :)
@@epsteindidntkillhimself69 I think the best way to summarize would be you have a group of world iron chef team up and make an amazing cake. It almost done, only a small finish the touch on cherry and small cream part, and sudden some random dude came in piss all over the cake and slap his face into it and serve you that cake. That is the level of bad from the book. LOL Bsically Wotc hire random dude to write The final big event (equal to Avenger: End Game level), and he did no research and recon everything that people build up for, change character completely, and end the story like...wtf???
Can confirm. Everybody thinks that Kaito's spark ignited when he made contact with the kami of the spark, but it was actually just a plate of bad sushi he had for lunch. We know the truth
Incorrect, every single manifestation of any evil is simply the same colossal dreadmaw. The colossal dreadmaw has perfected sending copies of itself to all planes. This is why all colossal dreadmaws are one. All of this is clearly shown in its mighty power and toughness of 6/6. Honestly, you call yourself a magic player? 10/10
But like the blind eternities Is like space but isnt man, because it's not. And planets are semi cannon but Plains aren't planets but an entire plane can be a city or something...
There's a planeswalker card of him just being a dude, i think his backstory is that he tries to kill everybody on the planes he visits, guess he did something on zendikar that fucked him up
@@juliandacosta6841 He lived in his own plane but fucked up, and lost his spark and got sent randomly to Zendikar where he corrupted part of the forest. (That's what Yarrok exists). After sucking up enough magical energy he got his spark back, hence the card reignited
The three Eldrazi never planeswalked. The "kozilek", "ulamog" and "emrakul" you know are just an avatar used as a pawn for the real thing to control. All three of them never left the blind eternities
So wait a minute... If players are Planeswalkers and can deck-out, is removing a summoned Planeswalker from play in my opponent's next turn a legal move? Also, Are you telling us that a friend inviting us to play MTG enough of a Spark to become a Planeswalker?
@@juliandacosta6841 I'm not super sure but I think they're trying to ask that if players are planeswalkers and when a player finishes all cards in their deck loses the game the next turn, do summoned planeswalkers have to be removed from the game since they can not draw cards from their decks?
when i was in middle school my friend told me that plainswalkers were just untouchable and you couldn't attack them, and i just believed him and he was unbeatable with his totally OP plainswalker
About that intro of Players being Planeswalkers, my first game ever I thought that was true so when I played a card that said "each creature and Planeswalker" I thought that included players too. It did not. I will never forget this moment, THANKS LORE!
I started playing the game before lorwin (where the first planeswalker cards released) and they got introduced, I was a lot confused as well because I understood that cards that deal damage to "players" would also affect planeswalker. So I though a card like "Maggot Carrier" (etb: each player loses 1 life) would make every player and planeswalker lose 1 life
The reason eldrazi can move between planes is the same reason the Ur Dragon can Its the rule of big Once you get big enough, boom can go between planes
Finding out your a plainswalker while having food poisoning would be the WORST, like you have food poisoning and then all of a sudden your in a place you’ve never seen before, but you STILL HAVE FOOD POISONING!
So can we get an Elk Planeswalker who used to be an extremely vain person who cared about preserving their beauty until they met Oko and were transformed, after that the existential crisis of losing their past self, status and good looks had to cope and re-think their life and morals so their spark ignited, now they are a planeswalking Elk.
Make it a Zombified Elk and I'm in, name it The Deerhaunter, and make it have giant metal hooks for hands... And it should have a flavor text on the non-planeswalker card, reading The Moose is Loose. I am not at all biased in favor of a Zombie Elk Planeswalker. Let's create it from Scratch here... Deerhaunter {2}{B}{G} Planeswalker - Deerhaunter | +1: Create a Black 2/2 Zombie Token , -1: Until End of Turn, Deerhaunter becomes a X/X Zombie Elk Creature where X is the amount of Zombie Creatures you Control. , -6: Gain an Emblem with, "Creatures you control are Green in addition to their other colors and are Elks in addition to their other creature types, and whenever a non-token Elk creature you control dies summon a Black 2/2 Zombie Creature Token with Fear. (3) Let's create the creature as well... The Deerhaunter {B}{G} Legendary Enchantment Creature - Zombie Elk | Shroud, The Deerhaunter isn't a creature for as long as you control other Zombie Creatures. When The Deerhaunter enters the battlefield, summon 8 Black 0/1 Zombie Creature Tokens with Defender and Shroud to your side of the field. Whenever a Zombie Creature you Control dies put a +1/+1 counter on The Deerhaunter.
So anyone know of a Planeswalker who is like a chef and almost died of food poisoning and now uses mana and planeswalking to concoct the best meal in the multiverse?
Ok remember how Luke Skywalker in return of the Jedi throws away his lightsaber and says „I am a Jedi just like my father before me“ that’s the spark igniting right there. It’s a plot thing.
Fun fact! Serra was one of the very few natural angels in existence. Almost every other natural angel is dead. It's just Feather left. She's all that remains. And one day, she'll be gone.
The multiverse is like a universe with many diferent worlds that only the planeswalker can cross from one to the other. Except the Phyrexians also do it... And... Eldrazi do it... And... Bolas Zombified army did it... and there are machines built in some of these worlds known as Planar Bridges that can transport literally anybody between the planes.
Eldrazi are less about planeswalking and more about planesbreaching. Planeswalkers are all like "oh, now I'm here instead of there, do I have good or bad intentions? let's find out", while our good ole Drizzies are more like "b**ch, your universe is blocking my view of the inmeasurable nothingness, prepare to be turned into cosmic compost"
I know this vid is funny hahaha jokes and I'm not trying to ruin that but I love Ob Nixilis as a character so just want to explain: He was a human, hence why he could planes walk, then the chain veil cursed him, hence why he has the form of a demon. Whether or not he is *actually* a demon, or it's more superficial and he maintains his mortal soul that allows him to planeswalk isn't clarified to the best of my knowledge, but that's why Ob Nixilis can planeswalk as a demon. Also, he did lose the ability to planeswalk (before regaining it again) but that actually has nothing to do with him being turned into a demon so doesn't explain that at all. How he lost the ability however was his spark was bound, lending credence to the idea that he is only superficially a demon, but his mortal soul, and hence spark, are still present in his demonic form. Apologies, but Ob Nixilis is one of my favourite characters lmao
That's not the correct explaination, like just the other day I planes walked, it's basically when you go on a plane and then you need to go to the toilet but they really really hate functional design so you, as wizards mentioned in the wiki btw, kinda walk very slowly and with great effort, tackling multiple babies along the way, yelling and then when you are almost there you realize that you must also planes walk back to your seat when done, sparking, again like wizards mentioned, an emotional event.
The universes beyond shit completely fucks all this up. Anyone who wotc decides can be a planeswalker basically, even when they arent in their respective lores'
Well I am not on with this kind of lore. I started to play MTG when all of these planesuckers not even existed. So I am a wizard, my opponent is a wizard. And I don't give a fuck where them from.
Both Serra and Elspeth are human, a simple google search confirms this. Not to mention that Ob used to be human, and was human when his spark ignited, and was turned into a demon later. Why would you bother trying to add to the conversation if you have no idea what you are talking about?
@@choppyhen Ob Nixilis was a human planeswalker that was corrupted by the chain veil, an artifact that has clearly shown the power to corrupt planeswalkers, attempting to turn them into demons. Unless he was desparked by it, which is shown to be far outside of it's abilities(stronger planeswalkers can even be immune to it's corruption), he would retain his spark even if his body and soul were altered(Compleation). Elspeth being a human has been stated by Wizards numerous times both in universe and out. Why would a fan created theory alter her current official status, or make her evidence that angels can be planeswalkers right now? If they want to make her an angel later, then the conversation about angel planeswalkers comes up, and I am sure they will have some bullshit justification for it.
@@GrugGangGrugGang I never said ob nixilis wasn't a human before. I just said he's a Demon. And as far as elspeth, if humans can become demons, what's to say angels can't become human?
@@choppyhen Ob has one of those bullshit excuses I mentioned as to why he gets to be a planeswalking demon. That doesn't suddenly mean planeswalker sparks are on the table for any other demon. The theory is that Elspeth is either half angel or that she is only pretending to be human. Which would be an extreme retcon of established canon just so they could add some wings to her art. Again, until they officially make her an angel, why would you use her as evidence that angels can be planeswalkers? I deeply enjoy how you have shifted your stance from "Angels can be planeswalkers" to "Angels could possibly, under extremely specific circumstances become humans, and humans can be planeswalkers. I have exactly one fan theory that supports my belief". You have very clearly understood that your own original point is flawed, and yet you still feel the need to defend your position. You obviously aren't particularly knowledgeable about even the modern storyline. Why do you feel the need to contribute to a conversation you have nothing to contribute to? I genuinely want to know, I see it so often.
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to be fair, the eldrazi basically live in the space between planes and they only show up on a plane when they're hungry, they're more like planesmunchers
Planesmunchers, does sound a lot stronger than Planeswalker...
They don't even "show up", according to lore, that's simply like.... A manifestation of their being? Because they live in the blind eternities and the physical aspect of them is just that bleeding onto the planes?
So hungry you go through a rift in universes just to munch on some poor elves
@@hmroid6884 TBF, elves are kinda tasty
What about creatures with Plainswalk, aren't those also the so called "plainswalkers"?
I had this question as well
I think there's a difference between "Plainswalk" (can't be blocked if opponent has a plains) and "Planeswalk" (being able to travel between planes. Plains and Planes are not the same word, and have wildly different meanings.
@@sofiaisgar7699 Nah, plains are their own dimension in MTG Lore, and plainswalkers need to use the plains dimension, called the plainsplane, as a hub to plainswalk
@@chasington5102 what??
All dimensions are by rule made up of plains, swamps, islands, mountains and forests. There has been no direct descriptions of how planeswalking works, so we can only speculate, but I imagine it does not need a middle ground.
(if this was a joke and I misunderstood, I am sorry)
@@sofiaisgar7699, but every plane has grass, even New Phyrexia or Kaladesh, therefore they have planes and the creatures with plainswalk can walk between them
I planeswalked to the plane of 'Walmart' once. It had a lot of 1/1 human tokens that frightened me so I planeswalked the plane of 'My Room'.
Being a Planeswalker is scary. Especially when I engage the planeswalker Mom, The Ultimate Authority in a battle of wits
Walmart has a bunch of 0/8s bruh
They also have lots of food tokens
*Planeswalkes to Walmart*
*[[blasphemous act]]*
*Planeswalkes away*
Mom is Win condition
How to create Planewalker in 5 easy steps:
Step 1: Find the magic player who super invested in 100+ years plan of magic lore
Step 2: Give them War of the Spark: Forsaken, and watch their life-altered with rage from how crappy of the book is
Step 3: Watch their spark ignited and fly off to the better plane
Step 4: Wear Sun Glasses
Step 5: Smile :)
😎
As someone who knows next to nothing about the lore and hasn't read a single book, what makes the book so bad?
@@epsteindidntkillhimself69 I think the best way to summarize would be you have a group of world iron chef team up and make an amazing cake. It almost done, only a small finish the touch on cherry and small cream part, and sudden some random dude came in piss all over the cake and slap his face into it and serve you that cake. That is the level of bad from the book. LOL
Bsically Wotc hire random dude to write The final big event (equal to Avenger: End Game level), and he did no research and recon everything that people build up for, change character completely, and end the story like...wtf???
I'm reading the lore right now (reading Kaladesh arc), and I'm genuinely dislike what you talking about xd
Can confirm. Everybody thinks that Kaito's spark ignited when he made contact with the kami of the spark, but it was actually just a plate of bad sushi he had for lunch. We know the truth
This explaination is exactly as Richard Garfield intended.
Walkers
If you just need some importance to be a planeswalker so why dreadmaw is not a planeswalker? Huh?! Hate the video, 10/10.
Incorrect, every single manifestation of any evil is simply the same colossal dreadmaw. The colossal dreadmaw has perfected sending copies of itself to all planes. This is why all colossal dreadmaws are one. All of this is clearly shown in its mighty power and toughness of 6/6. Honestly, you call yourself a magic player? 10/10
... on a Plane
But like the blind eternities Is like space but isnt man, because it's not. And planets are semi cannon but Plains aren't planets but an entire plane can be a city or something...
Every rule about Planeswalkers and the Multiverse apply every time, except for when they don't.
>make sure you are one in a million
>do food poisoning
>walk on planes
checks out
Out of a million people, I am definitely one of them.
My car is a plainswalker. It has spark and can go anywhere
How many loyalty counters does it have and what is the ult
@@Oscar-qs4nt car
@@Dogsarecoolnice car
@@clone_lol2829 car
Can your car go underwater?
Ob Nixus turned himself Into a demon later on. He used to be a mortal.
But he lost his spark when he became a demon, he re-gained it though in Zendikar after drawing enough magical power
There's a planeswalker card of him just being a dude, i think his backstory is that he tries to kill everybody on the planes he visits, guess he did something on zendikar that fucked him up
@@juliandacosta6841 He lived in his own plane but fucked up, and lost his spark and got sent randomly to Zendikar where he corrupted part of the forest. (That's what Yarrok exists). After sucking up enough magical energy he got his spark back, hence the card reignited
@@RedWolf4242 was being stuck on zendikar his first time planeswalking?
@@juliandacosta6841 I'm not sure, but he didn't plan on going there. It happened and he got stuck there without a spark, and became a demon
This feels like he is explaining to Phyrexians why they need to compleat planeswalkers
The three Eldrazi never planeswalked. The "kozilek", "ulamog" and "emrakul" you know are just an avatar used as a pawn for the real thing to control. All three of them never left the blind eternities
They're like a single finger of a much, much bigger entity, poking into the planes.
@@calemr "Planespokers". No, it's not a sexual thing (as far as we know at least)
"but planes fly "
-magik the noel
Today I learned all magic players have food poisoning
I love this.
Obviously Planeswalkers are creatures with the basic-landwalk ability for Plains.
So becoming a planeswalker is the same process as becoming a reverend mother in dune, got it
So wait a minute... If players are Planeswalkers and can deck-out, is removing a summoned Planeswalker from play in my opponent's next turn a legal move?
Also, Are you telling us that a friend inviting us to play MTG enough of a Spark to become a Planeswalker?
Playing MTG is cringe, so cringe that it counts as a near-death experience
I'm not sure what you're trying to ask
Also can you destroy your opponent with cards that destroy planeswalkers?
@@juliandacosta6841 I'm not super sure but I think they're trying to ask that if players are planeswalkers and when a player finishes all cards in their deck loses the game the next turn, do summoned planeswalkers have to be removed from the game since they can not draw cards from their decks?
@@mcarlinod You only lose the game when you have to draw a card and you can't. Planeswalkers don't have to draw cards so they can't "lose" this way
Thought this was a rhystic studies video for a good half second when I saw this
So, this may actually be the best explanation.
That thumbnail Made me think this was a rhystic studies video, and I was very confused for a second.
when i was in middle school my friend told me that plainswalkers were just untouchable and you couldn't attack them, and i just believed him and he was unbeatable with his totally OP plainswalker
About that intro of Players being Planeswalkers, my first game ever I thought that was true so when I played a card that said "each creature and Planeswalker" I thought that included players too. It did not. I will never forget this moment, THANKS LORE!
I started playing the game before lorwin (where the first planeswalker cards released) and they got introduced, I was a lot confused as well because I understood that cards that deal damage to "players" would also affect planeswalker.
So I though a card like "Maggot Carrier" (etb: each player loses 1 life) would make every player and planeswalker lose 1 life
The reason eldrazi can move between planes is the same reason the Ur Dragon can
Its the rule of big
Once you get big enough, boom can go between planes
Also serra is a planeswalking angel now
They turned a plane into a plansewalker??
Such good content. Makes me happy all the time
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Unironicly this is a good intro video for people who don't know what magic is.
Thanks for the tutorial Noah! I had a bad plate of chicken and now these funny little metal guys are telling me that they can help me get back home!
Finding out your a plainswalker while having food poisoning would be the WORST, like you have food poisoning and then all of a sudden your in a place you’ve never seen before, but you STILL HAVE FOOD POISONING!
Thank you for making a video that didn't take 20 minutes just to answer my question
I’d love to see you take on a lore video or something
what is subscribe, it's like scribble?
I am pretty sure Ob Nixilis got turned into a demon
Can confirm, I had food poisoning and that's what made me play magic the gathering
I never played mtg but I still watch your videos coz funny
So can we get an Elk Planeswalker who used to be an extremely vain person who cared about preserving their beauty until they met Oko and were transformed, after that the existential crisis of losing their past self, status and good looks had to cope and re-think their life and morals so their spark ignited, now they are a planeswalking Elk.
Make it a Zombified Elk and I'm in, name it The Deerhaunter, and make it have giant metal hooks for hands... And it should have a flavor text on the non-planeswalker card, reading The Moose is Loose.
I am not at all biased in favor of a Zombie Elk Planeswalker.
Let's create it from Scratch here...
Deerhaunter {2}{B}{G} Planeswalker - Deerhaunter | +1: Create a Black 2/2 Zombie Token , -1: Until End of Turn, Deerhaunter becomes a X/X Zombie Elk Creature where X is the amount of Zombie Creatures you Control. , -6: Gain an Emblem with, "Creatures you control are Green in addition to their other colors and are Elks in addition to their other creature types, and whenever a non-token Elk creature you control dies summon a Black 2/2 Zombie Creature Token with Fear. (3)
Let's create the creature as well...
The Deerhaunter {B}{G} Legendary Enchantment Creature - Zombie Elk | Shroud, The Deerhaunter isn't a creature for as long as you control other Zombie Creatures. When The Deerhaunter enters the battlefield, summon 8 Black 0/1 Zombie Creature Tokens with Defender and Shroud to your side of the field. Whenever a Zombie Creature you Control dies put a +1/+1 counter on The Deerhaunter.
@@livedandletdie, you forgot to include the power and toughness of The Deerhaunter
So anyone know of a Planeswalker who is like a chef and almost died of food poisoning and now uses mana and planeswalking to concoct the best meal in the multiverse?
Well that explains why I was able to visit the plane of Florida after contracting food poisoning in Mississippi.
Ok remember how Luke Skywalker in return of the Jedi throws away his lightsaber and says „I am a Jedi just like my father before me“ that’s the spark igniting right there. It’s a plot thing.
Fun fact! Serra was one of the very few natural angels in existence.
Almost every other natural angel is dead.
It's just Feather left.
She's all that remains.
And one day, she'll be gone.
It's highlander rules but instead of becoming immortal you gain access to theoretical physics. Also you become immortal sometimes
planeswalker disease
symptoms: tummy hurts a bit too much for a bit too long
To be fair, Ob Nixilis didn't start off as a Demon. He later became one and lost his spark.
Thumb made me think this was a rhystic studies video good job
Ob nixilis was originally a human turned into Demon. He even has a card that shows him being human and planeswalker.
This is legitimately helpful and perfectly you hahahaha
so what you are saying is I have to cosplay the clover anime and eat tacobell and then I will become a planeswalker?
The multiverse is like a universe with many diferent worlds that only the planeswalker can cross from one to the other. Except the Phyrexians also do it... And... Eldrazi do it... And... Bolas Zombified army did it... and there are machines built in some of these worlds known as Planar Bridges that can transport literally anybody between the planes.
I would like a Gitrog Monster become a planeswalker through food poisoning.
i remember back when we were the only planeswalkers. and batches. jesus, the batches...
but how the planes walk
Anyone else thought this was a rhystic study upload 😅😅😅
To be fair, ob nixilis wasn't originally a demon. That said, Tibalt exists.
Planeswalkers are just dnd anime protags
I didn't care to look it up.
Sums it up nicely. 👌
I still havent clipped into the MTG backrooms yet, maybe one day…
Ob Nixilis was a human who turned into a demon later
Eldrazi are less about planeswalking and more about planesbreaching. Planeswalkers are all like "oh, now I'm here instead of there, do I have good or bad intentions? let's find out", while our good ole Drizzies are more like "b**ch, your universe is blocking my view of the inmeasurable nothingness, prepare to be turned into cosmic compost"
Not sure if you're still taking deck requests, but how about a deck where nobody can attack anybody, and maybe everyone gains life too?
The Planescrawlers vs The Planeswalkers
Chungus video when
I know this vid is funny hahaha jokes and I'm not trying to ruin that but I love Ob Nixilis as a character so just want to explain:
He was a human, hence why he could planes walk, then the chain veil cursed him, hence why he has the form of a demon. Whether or not he is *actually* a demon, or it's more superficial and he maintains his mortal soul that allows him to planeswalk isn't clarified to the best of my knowledge, but that's why Ob Nixilis can planeswalk as a demon.
Also, he did lose the ability to planeswalk (before regaining it again) but that actually has nothing to do with him being turned into a demon so doesn't explain that at all. How he lost the ability however was his spark was bound, lending credence to the idea that he is only superficially a demon, but his mortal soul, and hence spark, are still present in his demonic form. Apologies, but Ob Nixilis is one of my favourite characters lmao
Guess I'm a terrible planeswalker because it's taking me a literal lifetime just to planeswalk once ☠
Why is there still no Goblin planeswalker
Why do all these people who dislike the lore make videos, if you dont like leave it and let someone who cares do it
Are AT-ATs planeswalkers, Noah?
They become planeswalkers by becoming pre buu saga Super Saiyan.
I'd like to know the lore of Comet the Space Dog
What’s the difference between sparking and goin super saiyan
0:37 no lie has been told.
Best mtg content next to remy
Thumbnail looks like a vid from rhystic studies
Oh nixilis best planeswalker
pls youtube stop recommending me these
Sweet, I had food poisoning awhile ago
So good videos
Woah march of the machines was supposed to explain how planes were made way to spoil it dude
😂 this is great
That's not the correct explaination, like just the other day I planes walked, it's basically when you go on a plane and then you need to go to the toilet but they really really hate functional design so you, as wizards mentioned in the wiki btw, kinda walk very slowly and with great effort, tackling multiple babies along the way, yelling and then when you are almost there you realize that you must also planes walk back to your seat when done, sparking, again like wizards mentioned, an emotional event.
The universes beyond shit completely fucks all this up. Anyone who wotc decides can be a planeswalker basically, even when they arent in their respective lores'
Ob Nixilis was a human before he was a demon that’s why. Can I get a revenue cut for the research now
wait, what's a magic?
This did not explain anything about the mechanics of how they work.
Now do compleation process
Well I am not on with this kind of lore.
I started to play MTG when all of these planesuckers not even existed.
So I am a wizard, my opponent is a wizard.
And I don't give a fuck where them from.
Nice
"Obnixis"
very ty lol
as we have seen recently u are not a plainswalker but u are a forestwalker
This video is both janky and deece 🙃🙃🙃
Ob nixilis is a Demon planeswalker, and there's at least 2 angel planeswalkers. Serra, and elspeth
Both Serra and Elspeth are human, a simple google search confirms this. Not to mention that Ob used to be human, and was human when his spark ignited, and was turned into a demon later. Why would you bother trying to add to the conversation if you have no idea what you are talking about?
@@GrugGangGrugGang okay, I was wrong about serra, but ob nixilis is a Demon, and elspeth isn't confirmed whether or not she's an angel
@@choppyhen Ob Nixilis was a human planeswalker that was corrupted by the chain veil, an artifact that has clearly shown the power to corrupt planeswalkers, attempting to turn them into demons. Unless he was desparked by it, which is shown to be far outside of it's abilities(stronger planeswalkers can even be immune to it's corruption), he would retain his spark even if his body and soul were altered(Compleation).
Elspeth being a human has been stated by Wizards numerous times both in universe and out. Why would a fan created theory alter her current official status, or make her evidence that angels can be planeswalkers right now? If they want to make her an angel later, then the conversation about angel planeswalkers comes up, and I am sure they will have some bullshit justification for it.
@@GrugGangGrugGang I never said ob nixilis wasn't a human before. I just said he's a Demon. And as far as elspeth, if humans can become demons, what's to say angels can't become human?
@@choppyhen Ob has one of those bullshit excuses I mentioned as to why he gets to be a planeswalking demon. That doesn't suddenly mean planeswalker sparks are on the table for any other demon.
The theory is that Elspeth is either half angel or that she is only pretending to be human. Which would be an extreme retcon of established canon just so they could add some wings to her art. Again, until they officially make her an angel, why would you use her as evidence that angels can be planeswalkers?
I deeply enjoy how you have shifted your stance from "Angels can be planeswalkers" to "Angels could possibly, under extremely specific circumstances become humans, and humans can be planeswalkers. I have exactly one fan theory that supports my belief". You have very clearly understood that your own original point is flawed, and yet you still feel the need to defend your position. You obviously aren't particularly knowledgeable about even the modern storyline. Why do you feel the need to contribute to a conversation you have nothing to contribute to? I genuinely want to know, I see it so often.
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