You Gotta Try TRICKSTER! - Dragon's Dogma 2 Trickster Vocation Build Guide (How To Play Trickster)
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- In this Dragon's Dogma 2 Trickster Build guide video, I'll share the best skills, augments and equipment to make your Trickster Vocation unstoppable! This unique vocation can be hard to play and get value out of. This Trickster vocation guide will cover how to play the trickster, how to taunt enemies and buff your pawns. lets go!
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0:00 - Dragons Dogma 2 Trickster Build Guide
00:33 - How To Unlock Trickster
00:53 - Vocation Playstyle
03:50 - Best Trickster Skills
07:35 - Trickster Maister Training
08:48 - Best Equipment
09:43 - Trickster Tips
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So, What do you think of the Trickster?
I like it alot
Stopped playing it after reaching level 2.
My pawns were killing the enemy too slow and my ghost thing died too fast.
It was torture..
Would have been better if my first skill was to make enemies fight one another.
I was also able to unlocked the dragon illusion skill, but it causes enemy to flee?? why? I want to kill monsters not make them flee...
Would have been better to make enemies vulnerable or on their knees.
@@_graiderz2462 Sounds like your pawns are just weak af (probably underleveled) and you are playing the class wrong.
You dont just let mobs beat up your clone. You move it with R1 to make them miss.
@@Akihito_Kanbara interesting, thanks
Kinda fun with my main Pawn only having access to Meteoron. Still just a much slower way to get through fights than by being the sorcerer myself.
Trickster feels like watching a fight at the train station but not getting involved
And becoming the instigator
The dragon skill is actually pretty awesome because it allows you to stagger larger enemies, even dragons.
While fighting the Sphinx, I discovered that bosses are staggered for the entirety of the roaring dragon animation, so 5 seconds (with a 4-5 sec startup animation).
Staggering interrupts spellcasting, which makes the Trickster extremely safe when fighting Wights. One, you stagger and interrupt their Maelstrom spell. Two, you can position your simulacrum far enough away that Maelstrom will be more distant to the battle.
I was farming Liches and Dragon’s Delusion is a clutch way to interrupt their casting, knock them out of the sky, and also force the adds to flee.
A truly skilled Trickster is one that can interrupt every single Drake’s Meteoron.
Espial Incense is actually powerful. Placing your illusion in the sky causes enemies
to stupidly gather and stare into the sky, making it perfect for a Sorcerer/Warrior to AoE them down.
And for bosses, it’s a way to safely position your illusion higher up to draw their attacks and also cause some special effects (such as a Minotaur getting stunned by charging into a wall).
Trickster is one of the most interesting vocations. While a damage ability would be convenient, I feel like it would rob the vocation of its incentive to think outside the box, because you can always default to”basic damage”.
It just needs more utility tools to mess with and debuff enemies. Itsuno should draw on his V character from DMC5 to dig further on the Trickster’s “illusion summoning” side.
Espial Incense is probably the only reason I play trickster 😂 it’s cool asf.
@@AIVI227 I wonder how OP it would be to let you use Core Skills from Visitant Aura’s position, not just let you use Invoking Essence. So using Effigial Incense and Enthralling Aroma from there.
I agree. So many people want it to just do damage but that’s just basic & unimaginative.
The class needs a little rework. It has all these cool looking amors. It would be nice to have debuffs on this class. Or like concealing smoke that hides your allies or something
It would be nice if we could still do regular damage. Our regular hits do no damage. Thats a no go for me. I atleast want to flank a little bit and get some hits in.
@@xenolegends7675debuffs would make more thematic sense. Instead of just spanking the enemy, poisoning it with toxic smoke would be cooler. So instead of just spamming a melee hit, make it you apply poison then perhaps a paralysis that you have to hit enemies several times with to build up. You're still getting in and wacking them to kill them faster, but is more fitting for the class of support by tanking enemies, buffing allies and debuffing enemies
@@xenolegends7675 do the sphinx and get the sensor that gives you 10, 100 or 1000 gold when you hit things and just farm gold while your pawn fight. made it much more engaging and rewarding for me.
@@xenolegends7675i hear you but it’s not always about damage, debuffs would definitely be a cooler way to go. Like if you could summon your simulacrum & as enemies attack it you could make it explode into a paralytic cloud to stun all enemies that were attacking it
Those would be great. I don’t think they really had many ideas when they thought of this class, it definitely would have been a debuff focused vocation
This should be a pawn vocation.
Or at least, rework the skills: fumes that pralyze the target (like he saw a ghost or something); create bosses simulacrum (takes longer time to cast, and cost more stamina, but has more health); fumes that make the target mad (he will hit itself, jump off cliffs, whatever); fumes that make targets in an area fall asleep. Just some ideas for skills that i think would improve the class
I don’t think it would be a pawn vocation at all but i agree with everything else
I've been using the grab button a lot to be a bit more proactive after I've popped off my aggro-draws and buffs. Pinning enemies for allies, throwing rocks at enemies, throwing enemies at enemies, throwing enemies at rocks, tackling enemies into things. If nothing else, I'm grateful for how much it taught me about the game's grappling system, which I kind of neglected with the other vocations.
Plus if all else fails, you can unequip your weapon and start punching, which can be necessary against certain enemies like golems. Just note that this causes your simulacrum to quickly lose health, so you've only got a few seconds of decoy to sucker punch a monster before you start drawing aggro.
This. It is _amazing_ against the second level harpies who will sort of land after attacking the simulacrum. Jump on them and your pawns will come over and end it. For a big group of mobs, I run around and get aggro on the sim. Jump on one, pawns kill it, then pick it up and throw it at another enemy which staggers it allowing you to go tackle. Repeat. You have to be careful that your sim doesn't die, so it takes a bit of common sense when to start doing it.
So much fun.
So after reading this comment I decided hmmm throwing enemies, this sht changed everything I actually like this vocation now
I think a lot of people didn't understand it and gave up immediately because no damage. I also think there's gonna be some insane trickster players in the future.
I appreciate that they tried something so different.
Most people are basic
It is an OP tank. I killed a drake at level 15 without taking damage using trickster. Dragon delusion is busted when you know that downed opponents receives massive increased damage and you can Perma stunlock some enemies with it. You only really need 2 weapon skills(the 1st skill and the Meister one), the other ones are just gimmicky memey skills. It's just that I think it's a bit boring to play(I like climbing monsters and poking their eyes out).
It looks interesting but i just got magik archer...i'll try it later on
unequip weapon and go to town on a downed enemy, The damage is there!
It's gimmicky and utter useless. They removed Mystic Knight and Assassin for this shitty ass vocation?
Love trickster! I always bring with me a few grimoires incase I get in a real pickle (or forced to fend by myself). A few High-Salamanders, -Frigor, -Levin, will do the trick. They finally got their use other than for some gold, lol.
That makes sense. I never thought about that as gold is usually what I use them for.😅
Bring a pawn with frigor so youll have ice blocks to throw.
So far I am liking the Trickster, I am barely started in the vocation but it is pretty interesting. Definitely can see why some people don't like it. But I am very glad it is in the game. It definitely adds to the game.
What does it add? A useless vocation? Yeah, first time for a Dragons Dogma title to have an utterly useless trash vocation. Truly groundbreaking stuff.
@resipsaloquitur412 not every vocation needs mass appeal. If Capcom followed your mindset they wouldn't have Lance or other low use weapons in Monster hunter anymore.
I appreciate that it forces me to engage with the combat mechanics differently. I don't like using all vocations, for example I don't care for spearhand but I appreciate it being in the game as an option for me and others.
@@resipsaloquitur412Actually, trickster is one of the most useful classes. Makes it easier to avoid damage, makes it easier for pawns to kill things, even confuses enemies and rounds them all up for your mage or sorcerer pawn, doing massive damage. It just sounds to me like you’re another one of those jerks who hate on this class, just because it’s not Damage! Damage! Damage! I get why you wouldn’t like it, but you have absolutely no right to say it’s useless.
Trickster is one of my favorites. Having your pawns and yourself not being the prime target in a fight makes it very easy to avoid big damage numbers.
@@resipsaloquitur412The rantings of an upjumped zealot make for tedious listening
Paying attention to your pawns' skills is the most important thing for a trickster, more so than for any other class. If they can't effectively deal with both ground and air targets, you're going to have a bad time. I learned that the hard way.
I read in a comment that Trickster should have 6 to 8 abilities, not 4 like everyone else. I agree that would be a great fix.
If they had just combined the awesome illusions with the ability to deal even reduced damage, this vocation would be awesome. And it's not just a matter of "get gud" as there are numerous situations where you are completely useless and the enemies just gang up and curb stomp you into an end game screen. Things like poison smoke, holy incense that deal holy damage, a flammable smoke that you ignite, a smoke that heals, etc.
I’m so glad I was given this class from the dragons dogma creators. Despite what everyone else is saying, this is the most useful class for me. I’ve been able to kill things much easier, I’ve been taking much less damage, and I’ve always appreciated the strategic combat style more then those people who only care about damage(Hopefully that didn’t come off as rude to those types of players) All of these abilities that give the trickster so much power as a support pawn. Not to mention the hilarious bullshit I can pull on these enemies😂 I feel like more games need classes like trickster. The Class that Seems weird at first, and is judged by everyone, but is actually more essential then ever if you give it a chance. Like cait sith, or the farmer class in legend of grim rock 2. Just wanted to say thanks dragon dogma devs, and to all those who think this class is useless, your probably only saying that because your obsessed with damage(Which again is ok) Or you may not be playing it right, because this class for me is number 1# (For me. That’s just an opinion.)
Edit:I’m not fully a master in this class yet, but I’m working on it. Still feel free to ask me any questions about the struggles you have with it, so I can tell you how I overcame it, (hopefully also helping you enjoy the class the way I do.)
It’s nice that you find enjoyment with it, but it’s pretty objectively weak. Not even just cause “it doesn’t do damage”, it’s not even that good at being a support class. The aid it provides is incredibly niche, and while it’s entirely possible to perform well with this class, there is not a single scenario in the game where the trickster will be the ‘optimal’ class. I don’t know what on earth happened that made you start playing better when you got it, but if you really wanna play a support class, mage is just the better option in almost every way imaginable.
@@tropicturtle9021 Well, even if it’s not good at “Being a support class” it still has its many uses. Think of it like bard. Bards have surprising amounts of uses and while you may not always “need” these uses, it’s still an amazing class. I’m not sure how your playing it, (Or if you didn’t even play it and your automatically making assumptions about it) but for me this has been such a helpful class for me. You must be playing it a different way, because how I play it, this is my go to. I can certainly see its weak points, but I overcame them easily, so I believe anyone else can too. :)
@@Soulknight-jw8hti actually can’t stand people who can’t see past anything except damage. They’re usually basic. But as much as i want to like this class they dropped the ball on what it should be capable of. Paralytic fumes, noxious fumes, turning enemies into allies, these would have been more useful skills than something like creating a false ground, or wall. i really hate the lack of imagination in the skills. Wouldn’t it be cooler if you could have a group of enemies drawn to your clone & then once they are all grouped up you either disperse the clone to paralyze them or create an illusion to trap them all into place like a dome or something? Or maybe use your incense to turn one of the enemies out a group of enemies into temporary allies? I just feel like some of the skills they did give us for this vocation are unimaginative & somewhat useless
@@SkRo0L3w5e Again, I found uses for all of them, and they have become useful to me. Sure, some may me useless at times, but I couldn’t have asked for a class that helped me so much, and is so creative. Also, I agree with you. People who prefer doing damage, I’m ok with, but people who think that damage is the only thing that matters, and disregard other classes because of that, make me sick as well.
I just got Trickster yesterday and I'm loving it. From what I can tell it's a easy vocation to rank up, I got from rank 1 to rank 6 very quickly. I was on the main road in Battahl going in the direction of the Trickster Shrine and encountered two armoured cyclops. Not even a few moments into the fight a griffin swooped down and this was perfect for me as I projected my simulacrum onto on to one of the cyclops and the griffin just went to town on it. It really felt super awesome and satisfying. I'm still learning to master Trickster so any help would be welcomed 😁
I recommend getting a thief class pawn and throwing him at large enemies, or just grabbing smaller enemies and throwing them at each other as a way to deal damage when you have nothing else to do.
Just a little tip. Upgrade magic archer for its augments if you’re going to be playing trickster
I don't think I have ever felt so sad and pathetic in a game, as when I needed meat for a camp fire, but was unable to kill a boar and my party would not engage as it didn't sense a threat. That's the Trickster.
You can unequip your weapon and start punching to do damage though
Been maining Trickster and you and I are playing Trickster completely opposite. I only use dragons illusion on big monsters like ogres and cyclops not the little ones. My Main pawn is a fighter but I might use warrior to switch it up to draw all the agro all the way away from me. My build is to run into the big monsters though I have the strength augments on my main pawns max stamina & health augments etc, the goblins and wolves is light work. Only downside is you can't kill the animals for meat at the campsite.
You can kill animals. I just slaughtered a bunch of deer with my censer. It takes 10 hits, but you can do it.
its fun if ur new game + or if ur in no rush to clear the game.
Imo this class REALLY needs more buffing/support abilities other than trickery and that single buff. They kinda lack in support ironically
Tricker is awesome. Its my favorite class. Moving enemys to be attacked by my pawns. Buffing everyone and then using the mastery ability to CC drakes. Once u have really strong pawns its insane. I think the main way to play is just spamming suffocating shroud and constantly moving ur illusion. If u always hold aggro its amazing. I keep moving it behind enemys and they cant do anything. My party is Warrior, Sorcerer, and Mage. The only reason I have the mage is cause the buff removes health. My pawns almost never get it and if i lose aggro the Warrior picks it up until i get it back. Unfortunately it is useless against the last two bosses before the unmoored world cause the pawns cant seem to hit them
Combining the pawn buff smoke with the dragon is great I stunned a cyclops and watched the pawns tear him apart
Lol my very first combat experience was walking out of Battahl after equipping the vocation, a Griffon just divebombs out of nowhere. Ended up having to literally grab onto it's face and beat him over the head with the censer because my only available skill was the "spread fumes" move. lol. It...was a long fight.
You can get pawn buffs from the magic archer tree, as well as buff uptime from the mage. Then use red buff and watch your thief pawns murder everything. Also there is a censer you can get that gives you gold every time you melee something.
I've tried the Trickster and it's not for me, but I can see why some people might like it.
Sim U Lah crumb or Sim U LAY crumb .. Be GUILE ing, glad to help. I unlocked trickster, gave it a whirl, found it incredibly lackluster at least early (all I could stomach). I would prefer to play Mage with Palladium and Celerity with occasional Aenodyne for heals and Levin for dps. Yes, I play Mage with no Fighter/Tank. 3 dps.
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Pretty interesting class. Played right you're invulnerable to a degree. Dump you illusion somewhere then you can walk into a mob and smoke em. They run straight for your dupe and you become invisible to them.
Feel like your weapon should deal some actual damage on hit. Even the archer gets decent damage on kicks. Besides that I see this as a missed opportunity to have a class that can use sleep effects.
Enemies running away seems a bit counter-intuitive to the actual vocation as a whole when trying to set enemies up to take damage from your pawns.. From what I've seen is that I think a cool rework would be the Maister skill, Dragon's Delusion, could be a instant stagger move by making enemies fall onto the floor out of fear for a few seconds. This would essentially provide an opening for the pawns to do an instant stab move for smaller enemies and a damage window for larger ones. A cool lore interaction from the skill would be that the trickster shows what the enemy is most afraid of because idt that the skill would be effective if a dragon is shown another dragon.
It doesn't need rework, it needs to be deleted or replaced.
Warfearer the aromatics + plus the revive arrow = best support class lol
Was completely using this the wrong way, didnt know u can keep pressing R1 to respawn the spirit to a diff location i woukd always banish it and spawn another which clearly leaves me open for a bit smh thanks!!
I had fun playing trickster but it needs more, i think it's fine to stick with it not having any damage if it had more CC like immobilize and more knockdown power and if it had some unique debuffs making enemies take more damage or do less damage
If you use the Censer you get from the Sphinx It gives you gold per hit that ranges from 10g, 100g, 1000g and very rarely 50k. Have fun smacking!
First off warning wall of text incoming. I cannot recommend this video for players looking for a good guide on this Vocation. There's so many ways to play using the Tricksters kit from mixing with Warferar, rolling with three caster pawns, piñata time using the clone, wrestle-mania strengthster, librarian/alchemist build using tomes for dmg, the class even has debuffs! You're confusing your enemies into attacking each other easily and it's even classified as a confusion debuff in the description (one of many things this video failed to mention/show). Then there's the garunteed stagger on the low cost ultimate dragon roar w/Thief trip combo. You can wall-off foes from your squishy ranged pawns forever letting you play with a full ranged team. Oh and let's not forget the best part of the aoe damage buff is your pawns cannot be downed while effected! Role Warferar, slap-on a Mage staff, or roll Magick Bow heal/ressurect and dont just stand around doing nothing like shown here when you have endless options. You can grab the Sphinx Cencer and if use that between casting spells or controlling your clone to gather phat $$$ used to fund books/heals letting you easily always keep one of each spell tome at-the-ready. It's easy to say this class does no damage when you lack game knowledge and this was very lacking even in basic information.
Unfortunately this video vastly lacks accuracy but the Trickster really is very powerful when played right and can be combo'd into Warferar for those who still want to do damage. Simply run the damage aoe buff, but don't pop it right away like this lad does. Instead use it in tandem with a mage's ultimate buff or the haste (or both) then swap to your preferred damage weapon(s). Another cool thing with the Warf. is your tank clone sticks around after swapping weapons for about five seconds, giving you easy ambush or spell charge opportunities. Pair this with a good Tank pawn of your preference since you do want it to pick up the slack since you cannot always garuntee your clone is going to have aggro or be out long enough since one hit on your character will end the clone. Now grab a mage with at least one of the aforementioned buffs and lastly toss-in your favorite fourth thicc dps pawn preference and enjoy playing some real DD2 chess.
Those calling this Vocation bad are either too new to Dragon's Dogma to understand how to use it or they're meta-chasers who see a zero damaging class and toss it straight into the garbage bin...which is extremely smooth-brain behavior...maidenless even.
Soooo yeah don't let videos like this continue to make an amazing and very unique/fun Vocation look so bad. Give players more time to figure these things out! I saw one comment mentioned tomes so the community is bound to catch-on eventually.
Thank you for this. I love trickster it is a nice change of just running around one hitting things since there is no difficulty modifier. I went to this. It's a very nice change up. I feel like I'm playing as a necromancer in some way using your pawns to do the dirty work
The thing is i think most people compare this to other vocation in efficacy, and all other vocations have a nuke factor, archer, thief, warrior,fighter,sorcerer, magic archer and magic spearhand, they all can delete monsters so easily that trickster seems strange.
The thing is the arisen is the only one that can use the meister skills effectively in combat.
So to all other vocations trickster is gonna seem a bit lacklaster in comparison.
In my opinion all vocations are fantastic so i level up all vocations equally currently in vermund.
@@j0obn255 First thing is correct, people want to see big numbers with their own direct play. But the second is only 1/2 correct since you DO have a nuke, its just up to how you command your team and knowing when to use the big damage buff but you will 110% still be watching a bosses hp go from 100 to 0 in seconds like any other class when played well. The most reliable/consistent way to do this is by utilizing the Dragon Roar combo'd with one pawn who can follow-up on your garuntee stagger for the garuntee knockdown, now pop enrage, use a tome if you want or hold the boss down but either way you want to be actively assisting your team to setup that big damage moment and you can easily fit the longer hold duration into your augments making you hold foes down for a very long time. Thats why I made emphasis on using a Mages buff in tandem though, it really does make a huge difference especially since the enrage will disable your Pawn's defensive spells while active (something I forgot to mention).
I dont like telling people how to play, so I normally won't share my personal way of playing or my "build" but this could be a good chance to give a good example for others...when I'm rolling pure Trickster grab your enrage buff, dragon roar, the make Verworth great again double walI, and either ethereal flight spell, clone toss,, or aoe taunt depending on your preference. Next I set my pawn to Thief but as an off-tank dps with either invisibility or ultra instinct, fire blades or exploding pyre blades, the trip/pull rope, and last is a flexible damage or damage with movement like the dash or skullspliter while giving my pawn defensive & aggro gaining augments & rings. Next is the Mage that you'll hire with one of the two big buffs (or both), the cleanse, flexible third utility, and a flexible offensive spell (I usually pick the holy damage spell). BUT this spell is required or you'll be losing out on damage from your mage during your enrage buff. Thats also why you do not open with the enrage because it will shut your mage off from 3/4 of their kit, so save your enrage buff strictly for the most opportune moments that you help create. Moving on last but certainly not least is a Sorcerer using the Meteoran or Flamethrower spell (this is depending on if you plan on being inside caves/dungeons), Hagol is required as your bread-and-butter combo with your clone letting your team easily crowd control any fight as soon as you see this spell just place your clone in the middle, you can flex the tornado or go with an electric spell for the third and finally the attached explosive spell is required (apologies im not at my comp to read these names and have the worst memory for such things). Now make sure you're using the augment that reduces your aggro when not in battle stance in order to let your off-tank Thief get in the fight first while you figure two things: is there a high priority enemy to stick my clone onto? Do I need to peel for my casters? With the later taking priority. Now I will end my wall of text here since I still don't want to spoil exactly how I play/use this setup but I played the build against every common encounter, the common large fights, and against drakes. With the drakes actually being one of the easier fights to manipulate (and get a lil bored) fighting lol.
@@baltheosz.8142 its true in the sense of deleting hp trough your skills, but an important factor is where is the damage coming from, for one i dont like my pawns being the ones killing the boss as much as i like personally killing him, and thats a common sentiment, for example i like necromancer in poe or arpgs but in rpgs i like being the one killing, its the most spread out fantasy for most people, altough all tastes are valid, i just want to point out where the sentiment is coming from.
@@j0obn255 Which is why Warferar exists ;) you can still Flare combo and be the main cause of big damage yourself by hitting it with the dagger spam setup. Personally I'm rolling Cencer, Magick Bow, Duospear, Daggers, Archistaff, and Staff in that order on my Warferar with the first three having abilities of Aromatic Resurgence, Lifetaking Arrow (or Ressurect Arrow depending on pref.), and Mirour Shelde. I can still be the main tank or off-tank while having my pawn set up as a knockdown tank/dps while I use the Cencer.
Like I said in my first comment using the Sphinx Cencer is great while using this weapon, which is especially so for Warferar since you'll be hitting foes to gain clone aggro a lot more often and let me tell ya I've gone out on an adventure with 50k gold and came back to have seen its doubled from just 1-2 hours of exploration/farming materials. Just wait for the right moment to whip-out the best weapon to pick-off the Flare mark, weak point(s), or elemental weakness after you use Resurgence. Now you really are that Necromancer style you're describing as you buff/heal/sap-foes/(OP)shield your allies, which stacks w/Mage shield btw. You do not need the big signature spells to do phatty damage at all when your pawns help the synergy so well and can even play similar to those other styles. They will use the spells and are not as dumb as you seem to believe, however a Pawn is naught but a reflection of their Arisens truest nature, no? My Pawn plays her role(s) amazingly almost always with my biggest weakness being gravity.
This class is fun but lacking something, i would love it if they added different effects to the censors like the one from the sphinx gives you money, you should have some that do poison, silence, slow, burn enemies.
But what this class REALY needs is for it to work with warfarer, currently if you change weapons your essence guy starts dying and that is such a shame. It also appears you cant target it with support spells like the shield arrow from magic archer which is a real bummer. I think it could have great potential with warfarer but they didnt know what to do with this class really it seems.
It plays very well…unless you’re fighting a golem then expect to play for a long time. This vocation will do immensely well with wayfarer(which I’ve yet to get). Imagine a trickster thief build, crowd control and consistent damage. Can’t wait to test how it plays
Censor should do similar damage to the standard attack on a fighters sword. It's a cool weapon, Blasphemous 2 has a war censor weapon that's op.
made a fun build with warfarer. Warrior + trickster. The phantom stays active for a brief amount of time when you switch weapons, enough so you can group them and then dunk with an indomitable slash.
Should have made it with debuff abilities or when you attach your ghostboi to things you can trigger some DoT or instakill of some kind. Or maybe it freezes enemies over time them crushes them in a bear hug that goes off like a ice bomb.
Will you make more videos on Rise of the Ronin ?
I really think they should've focused this vocation on debuffing enemies rather than buffing pawns. A confusion skill would fit right in, as would one which makes enemies choke or gag on a cloud of smoke. Being able to use your censers like a meteor hammer to deal some damage and apply debuffs would be awesome as well. Like a big hit which doesn't do a ton of damage, but has a ton of knockdown power.
Overall, I just think it needs to be reworked. A class which deals almost no damage doesn't really fit into a combat heavy ARPG like this. I got the detection augment and stopped leveling it after that, though I'll probably max it out eventually for the sake of completion.
They could have done so much more with this vocation but to be honest it feels a bit lackluster. They could have done something where the smoke vapors could charm enemies, confuse them or make them fall asleep so your pawns could get extra damage or cause some sort of debilitation. Hell it would have been nice if you could control your simulcrum and aim it around. Took me an hour to beat a dragon because the AI was acting crazy and just wouldn't deal consistent damage. Ranger, Mage and Sorcerer are def the recommended party to roll with trickster.
I would NOT take latching effigy because your R1 + triangle is basically that. places your illusion on enemy. the enemy its latched to gets attacked. instead i'd use espial incense myself. i love placing my illusion up in the air for bosses/dragons. makes them spew flames upwards. works so well on bigger targets.
If the game had an active multiplayer element, this would have been the perfect vocation to coordinate with your team. Sadly, this will remain a dream.
I like this vocation
I wish my pawn could use this skill
I'm just spamming the Whimsical Daydream for gold farming. If I could change one thing about Trickster it'd be that the illusion doesn't disappear when YOU take damage. That will kill me faster than anything.
Would be dope if you could turn invisible or into a form that literally can’t take damage …I think every vocation should have the ability to escape just like the thief.
Don’t you get gold for auto attacks as the trickster?
So am i the only one who uses all the magic skill books after setting up illustions?
I really love the trickster cause it’s so different. Once you get latching effigy, dragon illusion and the resurgence the class really opens up and becomes a lot more active
Aren't there more weapons for this class?
If you have an imaginative mind then trickster has endless possibilities to fuck around, while they find out haha
I think the augments are worth upgrading it
Trickster is a vocation for gaming journalists.
thats wrong on the dont upgrade the weapon, you might not do damage but if upgrade strenght the enemy dosent switch targets thats why it works so well with melee pawns.
if there is ring or dwarf's upgrade that lets do knock back damage then this most busted class, because you know back and just hold them down use daydream weapon you just make money.
This is one of the best tanks in the game...how do people not see this?
Because everyone is either obsessed with Damage, or basic. They’re so focused on damage dealing skills, they don’t realize that these could be major tank skills. I don’t know why everyone is so ignorant on this factor.
What do you need to tank hard in this game lol it's easy to tank with basic armor
@@Ccubed92 it’s more efficient to tank without armor though. You don’t have to waste your money, and, you can tank just as good. So I don’t know what you’re talking about.
I thought the trickster was going to be all about debilitations, like tarred, drenched and sleep, but they gave those super valuable abilities to the mystic archer and archer which were already pretty strong on their own.
I don’t really get it, maybe it’s better as a wayfarer.
They actually made this class for all the Lazy people in the world!
If I can get it on a pawn that would’ve been amazing
I love the class, this is such a new take on combat. Combat without damage, just working with the aggro, croad control & environment. This is a total brainfuck. Never seen Trickster/Illusionist done that way before.
BUT here we go:
When unlocking Smoke Wall (Illusive Screen/Divider) at rank 4 Trickster, I quickly found out that keeping the simulacrum (Illusion) inside of a smoke wall makes every enemy bug out and just stand there waiting for the simulacrum of yourself (Effigial Incense) to become reachable instead of fighting with the pawns.... ehhhh man... I say this is a game breaking mechanic. For the fighting part that is. Few time they just eventually hit it through the wall with what looks like an AOE-ish attack.
Enemy mobility toward the Illusion seems to be sub-par compared to when there are running after my own ass. I this is not enjoyable.
Dragon's Delusion the ultimate skill is amazing, but way too strong too IMO. It is a massive CC that even make a Griffons fall off to the ground most of the time. It's stamina cost is too low. It should consume all your stamina with a reasonable chance to feint after like most other Ultimate skills. Otherwise you can spam it again by the time enemies are just about done getting up. At least there should be a down side to casting it, and spamming it shouldn't be possible lest the expense of stamina consumables, MAYBE.
I would love to see:
- (maybe) counter move(s) for tricker, as an only way to deal reasonable damage. This would incentivize getting into the fray a bit. Otherwise you don't even feel in combat, aggro managment is too reliable. If damage shan't be introduced to the class, very well: then make a counter required to cast any utility/support Triscter skills. For the amazing Aromatic Rally/Resurgence but, in particular. This should be a mage Ultimate skill, darn it xD
- Overall, have a reasonable element of randomness in the successrate or the efficacy of every skills.
- Maybe support skill should consume the simulacrum and put it in cooldown, to introduce an additional layer of resource managment for this brain-oriented class.
Same comment for casting spells in general. I think that long slow incantation & spell animations is a great constraint, but I think an active minigame to achieve a successful incantation (each spell their own) would add a layer of brain to pass time during the the spellcasting experience. It would add a great balance of challenge/reward, especially in the heat of battle, other than expectantly waiting to see if your emergency magic shield (High Palladium) was started early enough to pop before that darn Goblin axe still flying mid-wair toward your knee-cap. RIP caster's knee-caps :D
How amazing would it feel to finally get your 5/5 meteors falling from the sky for your Sorcerer ultimate ?
How amazing would it feel to get a unique team-buffing shooting star falling dawn from the sky instead on a proc after a perfect incantation ?
And the same goes for Healing.
What gives a trickster a high magic score?
I really feel like there is so many other vocations that could have been added instead of trickster
I like the idea of it, but not the execution
@@Madchemist002me too. The skills should have been debuff focused. Like draw aggro with your simulacrum then disperse it into a paralytic cloud, instead of making a wall that only hides you from the front make a cloud that hides you from all sides, etc. the move where you can make enemies fall off the cliff with the fake ground is situational & a terrible idea, that would have been switched out for something like making enemies non hostile for a little while to just walk through them
@SkRo0L3w5e Yeah. I was hoping for stuff like a fake cage that prevents enemy movement passed it, paralyzing smoke, blinding smoke, maybe the dragon could cause damage due to how startled the creatures are. I wanted to be more tricky, but I just got a kiter
Put it on. Got into a bar fight and lost because I couldn’t do damage so ya needless to say took that shit off asap
You’re gonna have fun with it once you finish all your classes and mix it up with wayfarer, you’ll be able to do the trickster moves and also have a bad ass weapon, and can wear whatever armor you’d like.
I think they should just get over the no damage thing at least give the incense a DoT or something. I don’t see why hypothetically the magical incense couldn’t be used to choke people out or push people away… or create a dense fog. Anything different 😂
Trickster is my favorite class. By far.
Quick pro-tip before my wall of text: You can use spell books to do damage. Thank me later.
I'm a sucker for unique playstyles that break the mold. And they did not pull any punches with this one. It is so original and clever I cant NOT play it.
That being said, there are a lot of things that make it not very practical a lot of the time. And things I would like to see changed to make it more interactive.
Namely that doing clever tricks like making enemies fall off cliffs just isnt feasible 99% of the time. Primarily because, in order to do so, you HAVE to use Visitant Aura to move your clone over the floor. Its a LOT of set up just to have your loot fall to an unretrievable place. That being said, I think it is as intended. We arent meant to one shot every ogre or dragon we fight by making it jump to its death. Its just a fun mechanic there for clever people.
However, skill selection is very odd. For a class that relies on pawns to do the dirty work, theres only ONE skill that affects them? This is extra strange because thematically, its such a cool thing. Instilling your pawns with fumes to control them. They definitely need to add more skills like that to affect pawns AND enemies.
I would like to see more skills that involve creating clones. A maister skill that makes smoke copies of your enemies, or even little goblin/wolf creatures that can attack enemies would be so much fun. And since they are made of smoke, they will quickly dissipate, just like your simulacrum does out of range, and they would die in 1 hit to enemies.
Really looking forward to seeing what they do with vocations and skills as a whole, but there are definitely going to be Trickster changes coming, and I cant wait to see what they do.
Lol it's about illusions and the dragon head skill,make them confused then burn them down
i'd love a trickster pawn, but i'm never playing this weedmancer crap xd
How do you unlock that area I been doing quest & still the gate won't open 😅 anybody know how to
I snuck in😂
@@Robasaki wait HOW lol hell I been trying a few hours I took the route under the bridge through the city all that & NOTHING
Hop in one of those carriage cars that drive up to the gate(they’ll say get out but ignore them) and ride to the other side before getting out
It's interesting but my God can it get boring to play
Man I want this vocation to be good so bad, but it isnt 😢
I miss mystic knight
I think if trickster did at least some dot damage I’d love it more. Aesthetically it’s amazing and I was really looking forward to it..
Trickster is so bad I actually had to look up videos and whatnot to see if I'm just doing it wrong... and good gods, watching a few vids and reading a few different forums and posts... It's just *bad* like... It doesn't do anything properly. Yes, it can be a bit of a support for some very specific things, but like... You can play literally any other class and be useful?
Haven't tried it yet but I already know I won't like it. You have way less damage control.
Very gimmicky and interesting but needs a buff
trickster is a class severly limited by the ai of the pawns. Its a fantastic idea and it is fun to play at times but often becomes repetative due to the pawns ai not taking advantage or sometimes not even attacking distracted enemies which I found to be the case every time with the golem bosses. bottom of the foot, a step too far for the ai excuse the pun. i feel like it would easily go from one of the most disliked [general opinion not my own] to one of the most liked if it was given at least some form of feasable damage output on its primary attack. Its a class that needs tweeking for sure, but i enjoyed playing its flawed version and would like to see the devs evolve the idea into something great like V from Devil May Cry
I was hoping for something like a V gameplay too, if only the possession actually made the enemy fight alongside you like a party member it would be awesome.
This would be way better if your pawn could use it. Kinda boring if your going from any other vocation
Trickster to me is just too situational. Its boring most the time. You can ABSOLUTLY do cool things with it but it requires you to have good pawns, be in a area that allows for you to take advantage of the terrain, and hope the AI is gonna be helpful.
I tried trickster and I honestly don't see myself ever doing so again. Like, what the fuck even is this class? You basically just watch your pawns do all the work, make them chase frightened enemies or draw attention with your clone.
Now, I don't care about efficiency, but even then this vocatiin is insultingly inefficient at doing fucking anything at all.
Sounds like you don’t know how to play trickster. This class is REALLY op the way I’m playing it. You’re clearly not sure that this is one of the best tank classes in the game. FYI, not liking your clones to do the work, is a play style preference conflict. Not an issue on the class. Sure the class has its weaknesses, but you’re making it seem useless. And to me, that’s just ridiculous.
@@Soulknight-jw8htget over it man it is useless to some people because of their play-styles it’s not always a skill issue
@@TrayGolden Exactly. It’s not preferred because of people’s playstyles. Which I understand. Except he king of made it sound like HIS playstyle not matching this vocation’s playstyle made it useless to everyone.
@@Soulknight-jw8ht I guess I can see how you got to that conclusion but you can tell he’s just stating his opinion he didn’t say “this class is trash for everyone” just in his experience with the class. Btw how do you play as trickster?
@@TrayGoldenHow are you supposed to play as as trickster in general? Or just how I play it.
I genuinely hate it. why sit there and distract an enemy (doesn't work all the time) when you can just kill it in a quarter of the time or atleast stagger / knock it down? if you want to tank be a fighter, if you want to buff be a mage. Trickster has the gimmicks of both but benefits of none. if the base attack had ANYTHING like maybe a stagger or status effect it would instantly go from terrible to pretty good.
This class is an excellent idea that is executed very poorly. I adore support classes that are pure utility and even I think this class is boring. It just needs other ways to augment combat aside from dragging around a clone and giving a minor damage buff.
yeah it would be cool if you could like change the battlefield in some way like with some kind of illusionary wall, or trick enemies to fight each other somehow, maybe if you could make make fake ledges to get enemies to jump of cliffs it would be better…
Simulcrom? LOLOLOL
It's boring so boring it needs some damage skills
Looks too boring for me.
I am more the Tank sort of player. 👍🏻
The tricksters ass
Far from it. I’ve been told Trickster can’t do a bunch of things: Sphinx fight, Battahl duels, Riddle of Contest duel, etc..
I’ve proven that wrong each time AND I’ve done it faster than most other vocations.
It’s just a really difficult vocation for many people to use as you have to think outside the box and how the game overall works.
This vocation Sucks! & I thought the Mage was the worst in DDDA & now this piece of crap, can't believe they took away the Magic Knight to put in this piece of crap vocation, Im so disappointed Capcom & why did you take away alot of great augmantations & attacks for what made a great game in DD1 to change everything in DD2 is like when they change pizza hut ingridients from the 70s & 80s to the crappy pizza hut it is now just tastless & no good, you get the point??? The game is awesome but why change everything??? less enemies, less magic casting, & fewer dragons & weapons, so disappointing!
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Trickster is trash, F tier
It looks so worthless. This should have either been a pawn only class or not exist. We could have had a dragoon or a fencer or something instead of this crap.
You people will never be pleased, this game could have a 100 unique vocation but it won’t stop you from complaining. You have 9 other vocations, play them instead
Cry cry cry cry cry. That's all you people do.
"YOU GOTTA TRY TRICKSTER!"
"SPOILER ALERT I HATED IT!"😂
Probably don't make a tutorial video if you're not playing the Vocation correctly...
Make your own video then. If not shush.
Useless class.