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Full plate creates an insulating pocket of air inside, same with the brigandine. It’s usual to have a layer of air using wool clothing underneath a tight knitted layer. The worst case is to have only a tight knitted layer directly onto the skin, no insulation. With proper insulation, you can withstand harsh conditions, and they understood this during the medieval times.
I was wondering about that because metal in the cold is not my first choice of outerwear. I can see that air pocket working. But I am wondering about how that would work in extreme cold.
I'd like to call it another advantage of plate over mail but doing war in winter was kinda uncommon. If the norse had to make that choice for their climate they would probably still go for mail because you can take it off more easily if you had to swim. Also, the way metal makes you cold is by getting rid of the heat you transfer to it faster than insulating materials, so besides having an air gap or wearing more layers under it so you transfer less heat to it, you can also wear something over it, so it's harder for heat to move from metal to surrounding air.
Just wool cloth (that was felted and dense unlike what we know think of as woolen knitted sweaters) like duffel would not get that wet from a few minutes in the snow retained its insulation even when wet, so even without an overlayer it would easily compete with modern synthetic fabrics. The edge in modern fabrics is in their lightness, cheapness and appearance (being someone without a car I'm very much aware modern establishments don't have cloak rooms anymore and entering a restaurant in dripping wet underlayers is frowned upon).
@@avernion Northern China they often battle nomads in sub artic weather. Mongols conquered Moscow in winter. Inner/outter mongolia/ manchuria/outter manchuria is on the edge of siberia.
I'm sure Alfred the Great was relieved to hear that when he was getting attacked by Vikings in the winter. He built his whole army around conscripting half his people for 6 months of service at a time so that he could call up the other half when the first group went home. I'm sure it made for some awkward seiges.
Steel plate has good wind breaking properties, except at the seams where its wind breaking ability would be terrible. Even light wind is very cooling and wind imperviousness is fundamental to staying warm. While steel is impervious to wind, it, does not breath and one of the worst killers in cold climates is perspiration which cools you off really rapidly when your exertion stops. Steel has high thermal conductivity and high heat capacity (which in combination is called thermal diffusivity). This means that the metal absorbs a lot of heat for the amount of warming it undergoes and the heat is conducted away from the point of warming and dissipated to the atmosphere. By contrast, a low diffusivity material would rapidly warm at the heated surface so it would feel warm, but the heat would not be conducted away from the body. Here in Canada where - 20C is a moderately cold winter temperature, conventional wisdom says that you don't wear steel toed boots in cold weather if you don't want your feet to freeze. In really cold weather, bare flesh sticks to cold steel, which might be awkward. I suspect that in anything but the lightest breezes, armour would be a poor wind break. In cold weather, even the slightest gap in your wind protection can be fatal. I suspect that any place your steel plate was in contact with your undergarment, would freeze in moderate cold, causing damage to tissue. If you were exerting yourself in cold weather in steel plate, you would sweat profusely and the vapour would condense on the armour causing you to become wet. You would then freeze to death when you stopped the exertion. As I heard an Innuit explain once, only caribou skin clothing will keep you alive in extreme cold: -"Once a long time ago, some Europeans came to Northern Canada wearing woolen clothes, but they all died. "
Did an ex in winter, south of Canberra, it started snowing. All we were issued was a pair standard issue cams, a Howard green, and a vietnam era combat jacket without the liner. I also had a cutdown skivvy under my shirt. It was a long ex😊
Britain has open swimming [rivers or the sea] these people swim every morning except for violent storms, Christmas Day is a popular event where people mass swim in the sea around Britain this year was 32f or 0c
I imagine part of what helps is the pockets of air between the plate and the other layers of fabric. The plate will trap a lot of air, and then that air can heat up from your body temperature. I wss just watching a video from an Estonian Soldier (not Artur Rehi) who was explaining that under their winter gear they wear a fancy mesh/fishnet like neck to toe suit. It is very thin and has lots of holes, which seems counterproductive, but those holes allow poclets of air to get trapped and heat up all over your body, while the outer layers keep said air in.
Army veteran here, you do get climatized to being outside, hot, cold, wet, dry, whatever. It’s the damn desert sand though that gets everywhere and is literally a pain in the behind😜
I always get a little relieved when I hear that people in the past had some comfort that I didn’t realize. They’re lives were so tough, I’m glad to know they’re clothes were warm.
Metatron, you need to visit Canada. I keep getting told we have it bad up here in Northern Ontario. Plate and the layers would protect you well. The right choice of layers are one the best ways to stay warm. The big catch is to not sweat or get moisture as it can freeze and cause issues.
I moved from Ontario to Arkansas a couple years ago, I was recently commenting to my wife and mother in law that I didn't know if I'd ever get used to January being hoodie weather. We got some snow the other day and it's actually sticking around. This is more what I'm used to. It's weird seeing businesses and schools shut down from just a couple inches of snow though.
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 I live in Bavaria, Germany now, but I'm an American coming from Northern Illinois and South Dakota, and I must say, despite always hearing how cold Germany was while growing up, I must say, it is _mild_ by comparison. The people here think -5 C is a big deal for winter. But -12 to 0 C is the worse it gets. Meanwhile, back home, relatives in Wisconsin, Illinois and SD are waking up to -15 mornings, and -20 or higher with the wind chill. America's weather can be brutal, be it the northern states, the desert climates climates, the swamps. Europe is like a paradise comparably.
i've never worn period correct armor, but i have worn other types of protective gear and clothing. I'd much rather pack gear in cold weather, than in the middle of summer. Not only does it trap heat, but carrying the extra weight naturally increases your core body temperature due to the extra exertion. Making cold temps tolerable, and warm temps miserable....... Just make sure to wear good warm socks, and keep your feet dry in the cold.... Getting your feet wet in the cold can flip the whole situation on its head. That being said Materials like wool, and potentially furs (depending on where you maybe located) that were used in the past in some ways are better for cold weather than many modern alternatives. Wool will still keep you warm, even if it gets wet. And clothing made with natural fur is some of the warmest clothing that you can wear. wool is expensive in modern times ,compared to polyester and acrylic, but i always wear a knit wool hat, and Wool socks in the cold, because even if they get wet they will still keep your feet and head warm.
To stay warm you need to stop air circulation and control moisture. If you keep your body temperature right around the point where you start to sweat you will maintain good blood flow to arms and legs. The trick is to be able to vent some heat if sweat starts to run. Others have mentioned using a cloak, I think a cloak would be a great way to regulate body temperature.
@@bumstudios8817 given workers on tranmission cables wear full suits of (copper) mail... If all the parts connected well enough would be good protection from a lightning strike (current would take the path of least resistance... ie go through the metal rather than the wearer to ground itself. Might end up welded somewhat, but would be fine inside it
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I love it so much that you are a Skyrim Head S well and many others on this channel. I love it when you put little Skyrim references into your main channel videos about Rom or the middle ages. I grew up with those games and Cecilia sounds for some people oblivion for example just help me so much to escape the rough times I was going through at the time it’s the same with Skyrim. Of course there’s many things to rip apart in the critique that is I don’t know like 12 hours long LMAO. Which I appreciate and I can see the flawed aspects or some, or some out of the box solutions, like placing the merchants chests either behind them or I think it was below them so the player couldn’t reach it, but they did. Without no clipping or modifications or cheats. I think if bugs aren’t annoying or game breaking, which needs to take two boxes one box is enough to make it boring. First and foremost, we need to integrate those loose boxes in the wood with some quests not every single box needs a full flushed out quest but maybe a radiant one or something and the box isn’t sitting in the boys unavailable for the player but instead in the safe or a second floor in the desk, there’s so many possibilities to make a treasure hunt out of it and intertwine it with quests that introduces u to the factions. We can go as far and start our own guild, theres so much potential. Whats ur feeling’s about the idea? Im glad to hear ur opinion
Metatron and Modern History mind melding to release a video about wearing Medieval clothes during bad weather on the same day in two different locations...
"My 15th Century arming doublet based on the paintings by Pierro della Francesca" Are we sure that the Pierro della Francesca foundation (should we capitalise the "d" in "della"?) doesn't sponsor Raff to always mention him every time he mentions his arming doublet? Or maybe it is just some minor OCD, where he has to say the full phrase! (Just joking, but am I the only one who notices he ALWAYS says the full phrase every time? I'm sure he's just proud of it, but I find it amusing!) Fun video btw!
Living in the tropics for 20 years, watching your video make me miss my beautiful mountain of Switzerland were I grew up :) Another great video from our great Roman Emperor Raphaelus Pedanticus, GLORY TO ROME
Lindybeige did a video some years ago about an aspect of mediaeval life I never considered before. The problem and modes of transport. The things he said made it clear to me why a crop failure in a region was so devastating. There was no way to transport food over longer or even middle distances. Navigation wasn't that of a problem, but transport of great loads was. Every incline was a serious obstacle. Your take on this would be interesting, and how the Romans did it would be very interesting too. Maybe a subject? Lindybeige also made a video where he praises the mediaeval cloak. Made of wool, it's very warm and even waterproof.
My dad could read "signs" like a ring around the moon and back in Texas mesquite trees were pretty accurate at predicting the real end of freezing weather. Medieval people, especially farmers, might be able to guess if something bad was coming. Inuit claimed the aurora borealis colors could predict bad weather and could "read" ice and snow. The problem with your Roman replica armor in Skyrim would be, as my dad would say, "the wind blows up the avenue." He grew up in Pennsylvania and preferred leather shoes or later, cowboy boots.He also said they used "neatsfoot oil" to waterproof leather footgear. The fat from the feet of cattle has special properties that are better for a part of a body that is colder than the rest and thee oil also has these and does not become hard and brittle.The oil can deteriorate leather a little faster,but then wet leather will rot even faster, probably.
Yeah, as a Canadian, I have to say that if you can't see your breath it isn't cold. 😉😁 EDIT: On the serious side, I would imagine that plate is somewhat protective in the short term, but long term exposure to the cold and it would start to seep the cold and lower core temperature.
I was not too surprised in hearing that armors are isolating. My "engineering gut guess" about the isolating behavior of the armor is that it is due to the air trapped between the armor and your body. Air is a very good at thermal insulating, especially if it is not moving and heat is carried only by conduction. Also, the fact that the armor is shiny, prevents thermal dispersion by irradiation, an important source of heat loss, despite what many may think. I was told (and I did some back-of-the-envelope computations which confirmed it) that the 80% of our heat loss in normal conditions (e.g., no strong wind) is due to irradiation. Yes, you read that correctly: 4/5 of the heat you loose is because irradiation. This should hold even in presence of wind. Of course a strong wind helps in dispersing the heath, but this does not affect the irradiation and it should not affect the air trapped between armor and body.
The plate being at a distance from the body, produces like an air cushion that is doing all the magic ... The air is a good isolator from cold, and also the warm clothing like sweaters do keep warm because their thick fibers keep air pockets between them.... More layers even better, like using clothing layers below, because that disrupts little convection circuits that may occur to lessen the isolation.... You may be right about the wind , blowing through the plates may create cold currents that may decrease the efficiency of plate armor's isolation.... Such as a building with all windows open The medieval boots surprised me though....I didn't expect them to be nearly as good, especially with the slipping part of the story
Jason at Modern History TV just did a horseback ride in rain wearing Medieval wool clothing to test how effective it is. People back in the "old days" weren't stupid, they knew what worked and soldiers especially had to figure out what armor worked best.
I had no issues with cold in medieval clothing or my 14th century armor. Tested down to just below freezing. The real issues were heat related as all my main arteries were covered in steel. During the summer when temperatures were in the 90 - 100 f range. Keeping well hydrated and out of direct sunlight helps.
From a physics perspective, although the steel conducts heat very well, it acts as an excellent wind breaker. Denser than any fabric. The armour itself will get very cold. What you'd want is minimal contact area between the armour and your clothing, so the armour won't leech off the heat. The cuirass is more or less the best case scenario, as it rests on your hip but curves outward over your torso, leaving a small gap. And even the structural layers of your arming doublet, I'd assume one or two layers of very stout linen between the lining and the outer facing, offers good insulation, with air pockets in the weave between the relatively thick, stiff threads. As long as the wind doesn't cut through it. Which it won't, because of the steel.
@scrappydoo7887 Depends. If the house is insulated well, it can go either way. But I’d have to agree if the place has awful insulation. The temperature changes just seep in unless there’s decent heat/ac. Then again? I used to like opening a window like a mad lad and get the room cold. Besides getting fresh air. And the cooler temperature plus blankets make it easier to fall asleep. Or even just have the fan on to get it cool to prepare me for the cooler weather outside.
@ByTheStorm agreed on all points 👍 I was thinking more about being out in the elements but I also way prefer sleeping in a cold room with good blankets, the fresh air sends me off fast lol
I've a fur lined houppelande and a linen lined Schecke, which you would be wearing over the doublet. This is shown a lot in art. You'd mostly wear some outer garment. Personally, my bigger problem is, I get absolutely steamed in the houppelande in summer. Only on cold winter days it's comfortable to even stand around in it. And my offer still stands. Historically correct hose.
I live in Las Vegas, Nevada, and yes, it gets cold here, but the heat gets people. In summer, we have temperatures as high as 120 degrees Fahrenheit, so wearing armor or something would almost cook you. Also, humidity is incredibly low.
Never thought of it before, but it makes sense that the plates of the armor keep you warm in the cold. Being the plates metallic, they reflect back to you your own emitted infrared radiation. It's the same principle we use today in emergency blankets and some thermal clothing for mountaineering. The brigandine would work as well. The plates reflect infrared even if wrapped in cloth.
Metatron looked so metal AF in the snow with his long hair and brigandine...then he put on that bright red velvet hat. All i could think about was Elmo. "Go ahead. Tickle me. I dare you."
FYI In NatGeo 1980 was found an entire suit of armour similar to what you wore here in the NorthEastern USA. The excavation was very carefully done as the armour was upon finding only clump rust.
@@RupertMDoc you are right..... perhaps snowboarding would be a little more stable though, but.... no.... if they could do somersaults in armor, they could frikkin ski, I just know it. hehehe, can see em slaloming through the moguls towards the foe....... the horses though, they just look goofy...
Leather boots and sheep wool (not! cotton. Never cotton!) socks work great in wet/cold. Get a good dubbing (Lederfett) and really work it in. Take care to get it to a liquid state and let it soak into the stitches. With proper lacing the boot is now essentially watertight. Wool, even when wet, retains a lot of it's capacity to keep you warm. Combine with the above and even if some wetness (say sweat) gets in it still stays resonably comfortable. Just try to dry/change the socks on a regular base
honestly! the wool is so underrated! I am switching pieces from my wardrobe one by one into woolen ones. The difference it makes! the same black turtleneck of cotton and of wool - it blew my mind. Yes, it is expensive, but I live in northern Europe so it is worth it. And you don't sweat as much as in modern clothes thet are at least part poliester or something.
I've heard the rule of thumb for lower temperatures is you want your clothing to render you "comfortably cold." If you're guarding a keep or sitting in a siege camp for awhile, warmer would be good. If you're on a march or, God forbid, fighting in the cold, *alittle* lighter than normal would be better since the added movement will be keeping your body temperature high, raising you just outside your comfortably cold range. The more you sweat, the more heat you vent, making it harder to stay warm... which is most likely the reason pitched battles in the cold were avoided by both sides at all costs. (Unless your king or general sought a swift resolution or plunder that would extend their campaign, in which case God have mercy on your soul)
Leather boots with woollen socks are great in the cold, though I have French Army boots rather than proper hand-made ones like yours. As to the not-the-armour clothing, well -- you're clearly missing a woollen cape. I have walked thousands of kilometres in cold weather using a woollen cape. In cool weather it's perfect, and with a woollen jumper underneath it in cold weather as such, it also works really well. In light to moderate rain, the water wicks out pretty well, though in heavy rain it does get heavier and will need some drying out inside in the heat. Also of course highly useful as a blanket during travel.
On the same line, a few decades ago, National Geographic tested the clothing Vikings would have used at sea. They concluded it was quite similar in protection to modern sailing clothing
Both you and Modern History TV put out effectively the same video on the same day! You both put on medieval clothes and put them to the test in unpleasant weather. Jason rode his horse out in a bit of a storm while wearing period clothes and cloak. A cool coincidence you happened to publish the vids only hours apart!
This is a great topic,! How long were you outside? I've worn and fought in armor in cold and hot conditions. I live in New England, about an hour drive north of Boston. I've found brigandine with a padded gambeson make a nice, warm combination in cold weather. The cloth parts are thick enough that sweat evaporates far enough from your skin to still provide decent warmth down to around 0C/32F before needing a cloak. With full plate over a linen arming coat, I found I can be warm down to almost 34F (1.5C), but if I am fighting and working up a sweat, the proximity of steel to skin creates a heat sink and I get cold quickly. If I get cold from sweat after a fight, even a light cloak helps. And yes, wind will cool you down FAST. For the same reasons, I am more comfortable in full plate in hot weather and I have fought in educational demos in weather as hot as 104F and 80% humidity. Non-armor, 15th c. clothing is wonderful in cold weather, being mostly linen and wool, often in alternating layers (linen shirt, then linen lined doublet, jacket, and coat. As for foot wear, I've seen several examples of cloth added around the foot and calves for added warmth such as you can see here: www.digitale-sammlungen.de/view/bsb00108472?page=8
The physics of this: What we perceive as being warm or cold is the transfer of heat, not the temperature. That is why a wood handle feels "warmer" than a metal handle even if they have the same temperature, the wood "sucks away" less energy due to lower density compared to the metal (more particles to take away your heat energy). Heat can be transfered in three ways: by radiation, by particles that take away heat energy (gas or liquid flowing around you) or by solid materials touching you (if you grip a metal bar for example). And that is why air with more humidity feels hotter/colder, it has more density/particles and can carry away more heat energy from you. And that is why the same temperature feels way colder with wind - more particles passing you and carrying away your heat energy (so called "windchill temperature"). So to keep warm, you want to prevent these three mechanisms. Radiation can be neglected, it is less energy loss compared to the other too. The main effect is: keep air layers around you that your body heats up and prevent them to be carried away by wind. Don't let any high density touch your skin. That is why hikers wear multiple layers (recently a bare mesh as underlayer is trending): to keep many air layers around you, since air has fewer particles than cloth and therefore does not conduct heat away as much. Your armor is a good heat conductor but it prevents the wind from carrying energy away. It is an airtight layer, that keeps the warm air inside you. The effect would be better with more cloth layers underneath (wool especially has tons of air contained) but even a chain mail is not bad, if it does not directly touch your skin. So to keep warm: add tons of layers of high-air-content-materials around you, finish the outside surface with an airtight layer.
I have always wondered how the cold aspect would affect it, since none of the relevant youtubers live in a cold climate (Shad probably being the worst in this case). It is very nice to finally see a video exploring this, even though I personally would consider 0°C warm. If I ever get enough money to actually afford buying the appropriate gear (that however I highly doubt, life has become way to expensive nowadays), then I would like to test it in -20°C and -40°C and se how the armor makes proper cold feel like. But, since that unfortunately is unlikely to happen because the gear is to expensive, this is a nice soft take on mediocre temperature. Thank you Metatron.
Man, I have to somehow make a joke about peasants being revolting in the cold, but I just can't think of one. On a serious note, Peter Weller, when in the Robocop suit, fully covered, lost pounds of weight, because of the lack of ventilation. I imagine medieval armor in places to have no ventilation and so that helps in stopping heat from leaving, combined with the stuff clothing underneath
I did my basic training in northen sweden. - 5 celsius felt like spring tempratures. the thing is when the air is dry and no wind. + 5 celsius feels colder if you got humid air and a bit of wind.
Lifelong Midwesterner, 57-62 is my perfect range. 29 out now, thermostat is set at 66. “Meta, we need to go to the store” Ok, gimme 10, have to put on the armor.
Something else that people forget is how good the body is at producing heat. Years ago i took dance lessons and it was not freezing but not far off given the time (~8pm) and we always opened the door and windows because otherwise it was too hot even with very light clothing. im pretty sure after a while marching, let alone fighting, specially if you were carrying weight and with something like a gambeson
Guess I should have expected it but I found it hilarious that confronted with the issue of keeping your head warm you immediately thought of a helmet, without even considering the possibility of a hat or hood xD That said there was a recent video on modernhistorytv about pretty much the same thing but possibly more centered on peasant clothing (not sure tho i haven't watched it yet)... I half expected this to be a reaction to that tbh
My "Oh hell no!" weather is Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. I had a friend that used to live there and I found out -40 doesn't need a unit.. -40 is -40 whether Celsius or Fahrenheit. I grew up in Canada, but mostly in Nova Scotia. At worst, I think I've dealt with -20C and it was rare. I'm more a lizard though, when I had a waterbed, it stayed at 40C all year with flannel and wool layers. I never tossed and turned... I couldn't and I was warm! Live in Missouri, US now (since 2012.) These people don't know snow well and are worse with ice. The real challenge.. You can wear your armour if you want to, But I challenge you to a snowball fight! You may laugh at this, but this would tax you. The amount of moving you need to do, versus the cold being randomly added to the armour. The Frog mouth would be a blessing a a curse here. it's a hard target, but the snow that does get in is gonna hit the face or even block the vision. I know how to layer for such a thing, but even modern clothing to keep me warm makes moving a pain.
You are right about the wind. Northern Europe by the Baltic sea, 35 fahrenheit with strong wind feels absolutely freezing, 15 fahrenheit with no wind is nice and crispy. Layering keeps you warm, suppose it works the same with armour.
You should wear ancient African clothes in extreme cold, and then wear viking clothes in hot summer weather. What point would this prove? None, I just enjoy watching people suffer.
Yeah. That would be fun. Maybe even throw in a survival component with a few others like a combination of those primitive channels and Survivorman or Dual Survival. Or how Akira Kurosawa forced his actors to live method. For science. What would it be like when a few are forced to live like their ancestors with an expert?
Africa has huge variety in traditional clothes, because it spans several climate zones. Some desert peoples had clothes that would withstand both hot and cold conditions, because in their environment the days were hot but the nights were cold.
Metal won't insulate as such, but that is part of players means heat is trapped between. In many ways, it doesn't matter what the layers are, it's the gaps between them that actually insulate. And it's more that there is a separation than how big it is (unless you fill the gap with an insulating material like felt or wool or glass fibre)
Sneaks of to convert 50 Fahrenheit to Celsius and gets reminded of that one time I was in Rome and me and my friends wore t-shirts while the italiens dressed in thick winter jackets…
Grew up in +20 to -40, worked around July Lake B.C. for a winter and it hit -53. Thermal pants, jeans, balaclava, long sleeved shirt under a sweater + coveralls and mechanics gloves... Now I live in a +42 to -17 area and everyone always asks if I'm cold come winter. Pants only come out below 10, long sleeves basically never, jacket stays in the trunk year round out of habit from my parents. The tourists to Niagara always go bug-eyed wearing their parka's and slush pants while I'm in a t-shirt and shorts lol.
I remember Sir Jason Kingsley of Modern History TV in this video. If I remember it correctly, there is one episode when he also tried donning his armor set in winter.
last winter I could not wear jeans or trousers for 2 weeks (because of a big new tattoo). I don't own any sweatpants so I did something like a historical skirt thing with my woolen skirt under another skirt and a floor lenth summer skirt on top. This combo was much more protective than wearing jeans and I didn't fell cold at all (-5 to -7 degrees Celsius and windy). Also I think leather shoes and wool socks combo works for me to up to -10C.
Trust me when i tell you, even modern cold weather gear doesn’t keep you warm, when temps are below freezing. I was stationed in Ft. Drum NY. My sleeping bag for instance was rated for -50 F, and even at -30 you don’t sleep, you chatter all night! 😂🥶
I also wanted to add to the "things named after where the English display them" category as I've been doing some reading on the "Burney relief" recently. From, mesopotamia which is a good long distance from Burney
In winter stay dry. Wet clothes freeze and so will you. You dress in layers so that you can remove some as you sweat. Once those insulating layers a wet they can freeze, so no insulation.
while steel would conduct heat better, in this case making you cold faster, its also, where it covers, totally wind and water proof. and there might be something to how it might pack the layers underneath that also helps you keep warm.
Walk into an unheated metal workshop first thing in the morning in winter. Even if it's cold outside, you'll feel like you've been dipped in liquid nitrogen as soon as you enter. This is because metal, including steel, is a very good conductor of heat. So...if you felt well protected from the cold in your plate, it must have been because of the non-metal layers in your get-up. Even the wind protection effect of the plate would have been well-balanced by its ability to conduct heat from you to the environment.
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Full plate creates an insulating pocket of air inside, same with the brigandine. It’s usual to have a layer of air using wool clothing underneath a tight knitted layer. The worst case is to have only a tight knitted layer directly onto the skin, no insulation. With proper insulation, you can withstand harsh conditions, and they understood this during the medieval times.
I was wondering about that because metal in the cold is not my first choice of outerwear. I can see that air pocket working. But I am wondering about how that would work in extreme cold.
I thought plate would be incredible cold but i forgot the padding beneath. The plate seals it against wind so there are bubbles of war air beneath.
I'd like to call it another advantage of plate over mail but doing war in winter was kinda uncommon. If the norse had to make that choice for their climate they would probably still go for mail because you can take it off more easily if you had to swim.
Also, the way metal makes you cold is by getting rid of the heat you transfer to it faster than insulating materials, so besides having an air gap or wearing more layers under it so you transfer less heat to it, you can also wear something over it, so it's harder for heat to move from metal to surrounding air.
Just wool cloth (that was felted and dense unlike what we know think of as woolen knitted sweaters) like duffel would not get that wet from a few minutes in the snow retained its insulation even when wet, so even without an overlayer it would easily compete with modern synthetic fabrics. The edge in modern fabrics is in their lightness, cheapness and appearance (being someone without a car I'm very much aware modern establishments don't have cloak rooms anymore and entering a restaurant in dripping wet underlayers is frowned upon).
Dear Metatron, in Northern Europe we only campaigned from April through september. (Normally)
The cold weather was the exact reason.
In ancient China the war campaign usually between autumn harvesting & winter.
Where in Chine though, mate? Pretty different temperatures in the north and south. And how many of them died from the cold 😅
@@avernion Northern China they often battle nomads in sub artic weather. Mongols conquered Moscow in winter. Inner/outter mongolia/ manchuria/outter manchuria is on the edge of siberia.
I'm sure Alfred the Great was relieved to hear that when he was getting attacked by Vikings in the winter. He built his whole army around conscripting half his people for 6 months of service at a time so that he could call up the other half when the first group went home. I'm sure it made for some awkward seiges.
you forget teutonic knights that fought pagan prussians in winter because the swampy terrain and rivers froze over
I have been waiting for you to release a video on this for a while now; I'm so excited to watch this!! I love your content - LONG HAIR GANG
Thank you very much, I’m glad to hear.
And he does it the same day as Modern HistoryTV :)
I keep asking my sister that too whenever we're freezing from going outside, I always go like "How did the vikings survive this cold?" 😂
ez: get some furs.
1, furs
2, they were crazy
3, they grew up getting used to that
4, did I mention they were crazy???
Canadians are the same, winter might aswell be a breezy fall to them
Wool underwear with tight knitted overlayer.
@@HPLovesCraftsCat Admittedly true for the most part
Steel plate has good wind breaking properties, except at the seams where its wind breaking ability would be terrible. Even light wind is very cooling and wind imperviousness is fundamental to staying warm. While steel is impervious to wind, it, does not breath and one of the worst killers in cold climates is perspiration which cools you off really rapidly when your exertion stops. Steel has high thermal conductivity and high heat capacity (which in combination is called thermal diffusivity). This means that the metal absorbs a lot of heat for the amount of warming it undergoes and the heat is conducted away from the point of warming and dissipated to the atmosphere. By contrast, a low diffusivity material would rapidly warm at the heated surface so it would feel warm, but the heat would not be conducted away from the body. Here in Canada where - 20C is a moderately cold winter temperature, conventional wisdom says that you don't wear steel toed boots in cold weather if you don't want your feet to freeze. In really cold weather, bare flesh sticks to cold steel, which might be awkward. I suspect that in anything but the lightest breezes, armour would be a poor wind break. In cold weather, even the slightest gap in your wind protection can be fatal. I suspect that any place your steel plate was in contact with your undergarment, would freeze in moderate cold, causing damage to tissue. If you were exerting yourself in cold weather in steel plate, you would sweat profusely and the vapour would condense on the armour causing you to become wet. You would then freeze to death when you stopped the exertion. As I heard an Innuit explain once, only caribou skin clothing will keep you alive in extreme cold: -"Once a long time ago, some Europeans came to Northern Canada wearing woolen clothes, but they all died. "
In the army we used to say that your loadbearing equipment was your warmest winter clothing.
I also liked the windproofing that flak jacket offered.
Did an ex in winter, south of Canberra, it started snowing. All we were issued was a pair standard issue cams, a Howard green, and a vietnam era combat jacket without the liner. I also had a cutdown skivvy under my shirt. It was a long ex😊
I can imagine :) Vitnam gear and snow does sound like "fun" times.
I just have to say this, that seeing you standing there in that armor, you look so, well...noble. 🙂
0:55 Yeah, I grew up in the mountains of Arizona, and 50-55F and we'd still go swimming in the outdoor pool if it was still open.
Britain has open swimming [rivers or the sea] these people swim every morning except for violent storms,
Christmas Day is a popular event where people mass swim in the sea around Britain this year was 32f or 0c
I imagine part of what helps is the pockets of air between the plate and the other layers of fabric. The plate will trap a lot of air, and then that air can heat up from your body temperature.
I wss just watching a video from an Estonian Soldier (not Artur Rehi) who was explaining that under their winter gear they wear a fancy mesh/fishnet like neck to toe suit. It is very thin and has lots of holes, which seems counterproductive, but those holes allow poclets of air to get trapped and heat up all over your body, while the outer layers keep said air in.
Army veteran here, you do get climatized to being outside, hot, cold, wet, dry, whatever. It’s the damn desert sand though that gets everywhere and is literally a pain in the behind😜
I always get a little relieved when I hear that people in the past had some comfort that I didn’t realize. They’re lives were so tough, I’m glad to know they’re clothes were warm.
Wool is what probably helps and the layers.
Skyrim music after dissing a mean comment for disliking Skyrim? Metatron, were you left with an itch you had to scratch after that video?
Metatron, you need to visit Canada. I keep getting told we have it bad up here in Northern Ontario. Plate and the layers would protect you well. The right choice of layers are one the best ways to stay warm.
The big catch is to not sweat or get moisture as it can freeze and cause issues.
This is why armor is a bad idea in serious cold. It's a great way to stop moisture as well as draw heat from you.
I moved from Ontario to Arkansas a couple years ago, I was recently commenting to my wife and mother in law that I didn't know if I'd ever get used to January being hoodie weather. We got some snow the other day and it's actually sticking around. This is more what I'm used to. It's weird seeing businesses and schools shut down from just a couple inches of snow though.
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 I live in Bavaria, Germany now, but I'm an American coming from Northern Illinois and South Dakota, and I must say, despite always hearing how cold Germany was while growing up, I must say, it is _mild_ by comparison.
The people here think -5 C is a big deal for winter. But -12 to 0 C is the worse it gets. Meanwhile, back home, relatives in Wisconsin, Illinois and SD are waking up to -15 mornings, and -20 or higher with the wind chill.
America's weather can be brutal, be it the northern states, the desert climates climates, the swamps. Europe is like a paradise comparably.
Ah yes, getting frostbitten in medieval armor. Truly the peak of male fantasy.
getting stiff one way or another 😂
indeed
Listens to the opening:
"Hey you, you're finally awake."
Diet was different.
Physiology was different
They wore skins and cloaks.
Balaclavas under the helmets
Layers.
Are you writing poetry here?
One's body heat is infrared light energy. And just like a flashlight, it reflects off the surface of the metal, back to the body.
The skyrim music made this 10/10.
Based name and pfp
i've never worn period correct armor, but i have worn other types of protective gear and clothing. I'd much rather pack gear in cold weather, than in the middle of summer. Not only does it trap heat, but carrying the extra weight naturally increases your core body temperature due to the extra exertion. Making cold temps tolerable, and warm temps miserable....... Just make sure to wear good warm socks, and keep your feet dry in the cold.... Getting your feet wet in the cold can flip the whole situation on its head. That being said Materials like wool, and potentially furs (depending on where you maybe located) that were used in the past in some ways are better for cold weather than many modern alternatives. Wool will still keep you warm, even if it gets wet. And clothing made with natural fur is some of the warmest clothing that you can wear. wool is expensive in modern times ,compared to polyester and acrylic, but i always wear a knit wool hat, and Wool socks in the cold, because even if they get wet they will still keep your feet and head warm.
To stay warm you need to stop air circulation and control moisture. If you keep your body temperature right around the point where you start to sweat you will maintain good blood flow to arms and legs. The trick is to be able to vent some heat if sweat starts to run. Others have mentioned using a cloak, I think a cloak would be a great way to regulate body temperature.
I wonder how effective this would be in a hail storm.
Lightning storm? 😂
@@bumstudios8817 No, that would be foolish. Hail though would be interesting.
Insurance won't cover it lol
@@bumstudios8817 given workers on tranmission cables wear full suits of (copper) mail...
If all the parts connected well enough would be good protection from a lightning strike (current would take the path of least resistance... ie go through the metal rather than the wearer to ground itself. Might end up welded somewhat, but would be fine inside it
@@jeagerblackpaw2922good to know 😊.
My writer's brain will sqirrel that away for later. 😊 My characters are going to hate me 🤦🏼♀️
with that intro music I was half expecting to see you dressed as a guard and telling me you used to be an adventurer
I love your channel Metatron. Always objective when necessary but never lacking the chance to chase some fun now and again. This content is why we love you Metatron!
I love it so much that you are a Skyrim Head S well and many others on this channel. I love it when you put little Skyrim references into your main channel videos about Rom or the middle ages. I grew up with those games and Cecilia sounds for some people oblivion for example just help me so much to escape the rough times I was going through at the time it’s the same with Skyrim.
Of course there’s many things to rip apart in the critique that is I don’t know like 12 hours long LMAO. Which I appreciate and I can see the flawed aspects or some, or some out of the box solutions, like placing the merchants chests either behind them or I think it was below them so the player couldn’t reach it, but they did. Without no clipping or modifications or cheats. I think if bugs aren’t annoying or game breaking, which needs to take two boxes one box is enough to make it boring. First and foremost, we need to integrate those loose boxes in the wood with some quests not every single box needs a full flushed out quest but maybe a radiant one or something and the box isn’t sitting in the boys unavailable for the player but instead in the safe or a second floor in the desk, there’s so many possibilities to make a treasure hunt out of it and intertwine it with quests that introduces u to the factions. We can go as far and start our own guild, theres so much potential.
Whats ur feeling’s about the idea? Im glad to hear ur opinion
Other people when its snows: Oh, its snowing...
Metatron: *Proceeds to empty his armory*
Metatron and Modern History mind melding to release a video about wearing Medieval clothes during bad weather on the same day in two different locations...
"Muuuuuum. Where's your credit card? Metatron said I need a brigandine!". 🦁🏴
guys lets just apreciate That we are getting Good metatron content daily
Hell yeah!
"My 15th Century arming doublet based on the paintings by Pierro della Francesca"
Are we sure that the Pierro della Francesca foundation (should we capitalise the "d" in "della"?) doesn't sponsor Raff to always mention him every time he mentions his arming doublet? Or maybe it is just some minor OCD, where he has to say the full phrase! (Just joking, but am I the only one who notices he ALWAYS says the full phrase every time? I'm sure he's just proud of it, but I find it amusing!) Fun video btw!
Should have put the theory from Gladiator to the test: does the cold in fact sometimes make the blade stick?
Thank You very much for this interesting video ! 😊
Living in the tropics for 20 years, watching your video make me miss my beautiful mountain of Switzerland were I grew up :)
Another great video from our great Roman Emperor Raphaelus Pedanticus, GLORY TO ROME
Lindybeige did a video some years ago about an aspect of mediaeval life I never considered before. The problem and modes of transport. The things he said made it clear to me why a crop failure in a region was so devastating. There was no way to transport food over longer or even middle distances. Navigation wasn't that of a problem, but transport of great loads was. Every incline was a serious obstacle.
Your take on this would be interesting, and how the Romans did it would be very interesting too. Maybe a subject?
Lindybeige also made a video where he praises the mediaeval cloak. Made of wool, it's very warm and even waterproof.
0:40 Many an army would have that issue, dighting locals used to said temperatures.
My dad could read "signs" like a ring around the moon and back in Texas mesquite trees were pretty accurate at predicting the real end of freezing weather. Medieval people, especially farmers, might be able to guess if something bad was coming. Inuit claimed the aurora borealis colors could predict bad weather and could "read" ice and snow. The problem with your Roman replica armor in Skyrim would be, as my dad would say, "the wind blows up the avenue." He grew up in Pennsylvania and preferred leather shoes or later, cowboy boots.He also said they used "neatsfoot oil" to waterproof leather footgear. The fat from the feet of cattle has special properties that are better for a part of a body that is colder than the rest and thee oil also has these and does not become hard and brittle.The oil can deteriorate leather a little faster,but then wet leather will rot even faster, probably.
Yeah, as a Canadian, I have to say that if you can't see your breath it isn't cold. 😉😁
EDIT: On the serious side, I would imagine that plate is somewhat protective in the short term, but long term exposure to the cold and it would start to seep the cold and lower core temperature.
I was not too surprised in hearing that armors are isolating.
My "engineering gut guess" about the isolating behavior of the armor is that it is due to the air trapped between the armor and your body. Air is a very good at thermal insulating, especially if it is not moving and heat is carried only by conduction. Also, the fact that the armor is shiny, prevents thermal dispersion by irradiation, an important source of heat loss, despite what many may think. I was told (and I did some back-of-the-envelope computations which confirmed it) that the 80% of our heat loss in normal conditions (e.g., no strong wind) is due to irradiation. Yes, you read that correctly: 4/5 of the heat you loose is because irradiation.
This should hold even in presence of wind. Of course a strong wind helps in dispersing the heath, but this does not affect the irradiation and it should not affect the air trapped between armor and body.
People were a lot tougher than they are today
Indeed
The plate being at a distance from the body, produces like an air cushion that is doing all the magic
... The air is a good isolator from cold, and also the warm clothing like sweaters do keep warm because their thick fibers keep air pockets between them....
More layers even better, like using clothing layers below, because that disrupts little convection circuits that may occur to lessen the isolation....
You may be right about the wind , blowing through the plates may create cold currents that may decrease the efficiency of plate armor's isolation.... Such as a building with all windows open
The medieval boots surprised me though....I didn't expect them to be nearly as good, especially with the slipping part of the story
Beautiful armor,beautiful clothes,beautiful weather.Awesome!
Is he in the Midwest us lol I just started watching his “film set looks a lot like me backyard…,. Well quite a bit nicer neighborhood though lmao 😂
Jason at Modern History TV just did a horseback ride in rain wearing Medieval wool clothing to test how effective it is. People back in the "old days" weren't stupid, they knew what worked and soldiers especially had to figure out what armor worked best.
I had no issues with cold in medieval clothing or my 14th century armor. Tested down to just below freezing. The real issues were heat related as all my main arteries were covered in steel. During the summer when temperatures were in the 90 - 100 f range. Keeping well hydrated and out of direct sunlight helps.
I love that you tried it out in cold winter weather firsthand, very neat. I live in Northern Upstate New York and it's been snowing here too.
From a physics perspective, although the steel conducts heat very well, it acts as an excellent wind breaker. Denser than any fabric. The armour itself will get very cold. What you'd want is minimal contact area between the armour and your clothing, so the armour won't leech off the heat. The cuirass is more or less the best case scenario, as it rests on your hip but curves outward over your torso, leaving a small gap. And even the structural layers of your arming doublet, I'd assume one or two layers of very stout linen between the lining and the outer facing, offers good insulation, with air pockets in the weave between the relatively thick, stiff threads. As long as the wind doesn't cut through it. Which it won't, because of the steel.
As a South Texan 50 is COLD! I HATE cold weather! Much prefer HOT!
Me too!
Not me. It's easier to get warm than to keep yourself cool
@scrappydoo7887
Depends. If the house is insulated well, it can go either way.
But I’d have to agree if the place has awful insulation. The temperature changes just seep in unless there’s decent heat/ac.
Then again? I used to like opening a window like a mad lad and get the room cold. Besides getting fresh air. And the cooler temperature plus blankets make it easier to fall asleep.
Or even just have the fan on to get it cool to prepare me for the cooler weather outside.
@ByTheStorm agreed on all points 👍 I was thinking more about being out in the elements but I also way prefer sleeping in a cold room with good blankets, the fresh air sends me off fast lol
I've a fur lined houppelande and a linen lined Schecke, which you would be wearing over the doublet. This is shown a lot in art. You'd mostly wear some outer garment. Personally, my bigger problem is, I get absolutely steamed in the houppelande in summer. Only on cold winter days it's comfortable to even stand around in it. And my offer still stands. Historically correct hose.
It’s 0 degrees Celsius right now in my shed and I’m sitting here in nothing but a robe and socks
Socks make the world of difference 😅
I live in Las Vegas, Nevada, and yes, it gets cold here, but the heat gets people. In summer, we have temperatures as high as 120 degrees Fahrenheit, so wearing armor or something would almost cook you. Also, humidity is incredibly low.
Never thought of it before, but it makes sense that the plates of the armor keep you warm in the cold.
Being the plates metallic, they reflect back to you your own emitted infrared radiation. It's the same principle we use today in emergency blankets and some thermal clothing for mountaineering.
The brigandine would work as well. The plates reflect infrared even if wrapped in cloth.
Metatron looked so metal AF in the snow with his long hair and brigandine...then he put on that bright red velvet hat. All i could think about was Elmo. "Go ahead. Tickle me. I dare you."
FYI In NatGeo 1980 was found an entire suit of armour similar to what you wore here in the NorthEastern USA. The excavation was very carefully done as the armour was upon finding only clump rust.
the ultimate windbreak, now ya gotta try skiing in it to test...
Skiing in full plate? It would start out great, but would then quickly be all downhill.
@@RupertMDoc you are right..... perhaps snowboarding would be a little more stable though, but.... no.... if they could do somersaults in armor, they could frikkin ski, I just know it. hehehe, can see em slaloming through the moguls towards the foe....... the horses though, they just look goofy...
Leather boots and sheep wool (not! cotton. Never cotton!) socks work great in wet/cold. Get a good dubbing (Lederfett) and really work it in. Take care to get it to a liquid state and let it soak into the stitches. With proper lacing the boot is now essentially watertight.
Wool, even when wet, retains a lot of it's capacity to keep you warm. Combine with the above and even if some wetness (say sweat) gets in it still stays resonably comfortable.
Just try to dry/change the socks on a regular base
honestly! the wool is so underrated! I am switching pieces from my wardrobe one by one into woolen ones. The difference it makes! the same black turtleneck of cotton and of wool - it blew my mind. Yes, it is expensive, but I live in northern Europe so it is worth it. And you don't sweat as much as in modern clothes thet are at least part poliester or something.
Hey, Metatron! I recently Filmed a VERY SIMILAR video earlier this week! It will be coming out on Friday if you are interested!
I’ll check it out
@metatronyt Coolio
I've heard the rule of thumb for lower temperatures is you want your clothing to render you "comfortably cold." If you're guarding a keep or sitting in a siege camp for awhile, warmer would be good. If you're on a march or, God forbid, fighting in the cold, *alittle* lighter than normal would be better since the added movement will be keeping your body temperature high, raising you just outside your comfortably cold range.
The more you sweat, the more heat you vent, making it harder to stay warm... which is most likely the reason pitched battles in the cold were avoided by both sides at all costs. (Unless your king or general sought a swift resolution or plunder that would extend their campaign, in which case God have mercy on your soul)
Leather boots with woollen socks are great in the cold, though I have French Army boots rather than proper hand-made ones like yours.
As to the not-the-armour clothing, well -- you're clearly missing a woollen cape. I have walked thousands of kilometres in cold weather using a woollen cape. In cool weather it's perfect, and with a woollen jumper underneath it in cold weather as such, it also works really well. In light to moderate rain, the water wicks out pretty well, though in heavy rain it does get heavier and will need some drying out inside in the heat. Also of course highly useful as a blanket during travel.
On the same line, a few decades ago, National Geographic tested the clothing Vikings would have used at sea. They concluded it was quite similar in protection to modern sailing clothing
Both you and Modern History TV put out effectively the same video on the same day! You both put on medieval clothes and put them to the test in unpleasant weather. Jason rode his horse out in a bit of a storm while wearing period clothes and cloak. A cool coincidence you happened to publish the vids only hours apart!
I love when you show period art! great video!
This is a great topic,! How long were you outside? I've worn and fought in armor in cold and hot conditions. I live in New England, about an hour drive north of Boston. I've found brigandine with a padded gambeson make a nice, warm combination in cold weather. The cloth parts are thick enough that sweat evaporates far enough from your skin to still provide decent warmth down to around 0C/32F before needing a cloak. With full plate over a linen arming coat, I found I can be warm down to almost 34F (1.5C), but if I am fighting and working up a sweat, the proximity of steel to skin creates a heat sink and I get cold quickly.
If I get cold from sweat after a fight, even a light cloak helps. And yes, wind will cool you down FAST.
For the same reasons, I am more comfortable in full plate in hot weather and I have fought in educational demos in weather as hot as 104F and 80% humidity.
Non-armor, 15th c. clothing is wonderful in cold weather, being mostly linen and wool, often in alternating layers (linen shirt, then linen lined doublet, jacket, and coat. As for foot wear, I've seen several examples of cloth added around the foot and calves for added warmth such as you can see here: www.digitale-sammlungen.de/view/bsb00108472?page=8
I live in Canada, extreme cold is -50°C/-58°F. Once you've lived through a week of those temps, nothing less feels extreme anymore
The physics of this:
What we perceive as being warm or cold is the transfer of heat, not the temperature. That is why a wood handle feels "warmer" than a metal handle even if they have the same temperature, the wood "sucks away" less energy due to lower density compared to the metal (more particles to take away your heat energy).
Heat can be transfered in three ways: by radiation, by particles that take away heat energy (gas or liquid flowing around you) or by solid materials touching you (if you grip a metal bar for example). And that is why air with more humidity feels hotter/colder, it has more density/particles and can carry away more heat energy from you. And that is why the same temperature feels way colder with wind - more particles passing you and carrying away your heat energy (so called "windchill temperature").
So to keep warm, you want to prevent these three mechanisms. Radiation can be neglected, it is less energy loss compared to the other too.
The main effect is: keep air layers around you that your body heats up and prevent them to be carried away by wind. Don't let any high density touch your skin. That is why hikers wear multiple layers (recently a bare mesh as underlayer is trending): to keep many air layers around you, since air has fewer particles than cloth and therefore does not conduct heat away as much. Your armor is a good heat conductor but it prevents the wind from carrying energy away. It is an airtight layer, that keeps the warm air inside you. The effect would be better with more cloth layers underneath (wool especially has tons of air contained) but even a chain mail is not bad, if it does not directly touch your skin.
So to keep warm: add tons of layers of high-air-content-materials around you, finish the outside surface with an airtight layer.
My man became obsessed with the Dequitiem video. I don’t blame him. I love that channel too. 😊
I have always wondered how the cold aspect would affect it, since none of the relevant youtubers live in a cold climate (Shad probably being the worst in this case). It is very nice to finally see a video exploring this, even though I personally would consider 0°C warm. If I ever get enough money to actually afford buying the appropriate gear (that however I highly doubt, life has become way to expensive nowadays), then I would like to test it in -20°C and -40°C and se how the armor makes proper cold feel like.
But, since that unfortunately is unlikely to happen because the gear is to expensive, this is a nice soft take on mediocre temperature.
Thank you Metatron.
Man, I have to somehow make a joke about peasants being revolting in the cold, but I just can't think of one. On a serious note, Peter Weller, when in the Robocop suit, fully covered, lost pounds of weight, because of the lack of ventilation. I imagine medieval armor in places to have no ventilation and so that helps in stopping heat from leaving, combined with the stuff clothing underneath
I did my basic training in northen sweden. - 5 celsius felt like spring tempratures. the thing is when the air is dry and no wind. + 5 celsius feels colder if you got humid air and a bit of wind.
I also love that you even explained animals weather struggle.
Lifelong Midwesterner, 57-62 is my perfect range. 29 out now, thermostat is set at 66.
“Meta, we need to go to the store”
Ok, gimme 10, have to put on the armor.
We hit negatives EVERY winter in my state. I have to say that the gambeson I wear...works amazingly. I'm fully warm.
Something else that people forget is how good the body is at producing heat. Years ago i took dance lessons and it was not freezing but not far off given the time (~8pm) and we always opened the door and windows because otherwise it was too hot even with very light clothing. im pretty sure after a while marching, let alone fighting, specially if you were carrying weight and with something like a gambeson
Guess I should have expected it but I found it hilarious that confronted with the issue of keeping your head warm you immediately thought of a helmet, without even considering the possibility of a hat or hood xD
That said there was a recent video on modernhistorytv about pretty much the same thing but possibly more centered on peasant clothing (not sure tho i haven't watched it yet)... I half expected this to be a reaction to that tbh
My "Oh hell no!" weather is Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. I had a friend that used to live there and I found out -40 doesn't need a unit.. -40 is -40 whether Celsius or Fahrenheit. I grew up in Canada, but mostly in Nova Scotia. At worst, I think I've dealt with -20C and it was rare. I'm more a lizard though, when I had a waterbed, it stayed at 40C all year with flannel and wool layers. I never tossed and turned... I couldn't and I was warm! Live in Missouri, US now (since 2012.) These people don't know snow well and are worse with ice.
The real challenge.. You can wear your armour if you want to, But I challenge you to a snowball fight!
You may laugh at this, but this would tax you. The amount of moving you need to do, versus the cold being randomly added to the armour. The Frog mouth would be a blessing a a curse here. it's a hard target, but the snow that does get in is gonna hit the face or even block the vision. I know how to layer for such a thing, but even modern clothing to keep me warm makes moving a pain.
You are right about the wind. Northern Europe by the Baltic sea, 35 fahrenheit with strong wind feels absolutely freezing, 15 fahrenheit with no wind is nice and crispy. Layering keeps you warm, suppose it works the same with armour.
You should wear ancient African clothes in extreme cold, and then wear viking clothes in hot summer weather. What point would this prove? None, I just enjoy watching people suffer.
Yeah. That would be fun.
Maybe even throw in a survival component with a few others like a combination of those primitive channels and Survivorman or Dual Survival.
Or how Akira Kurosawa forced his actors to live method. For science.
What would it be like when a few are forced to live like their ancestors with an expert?
Africa has huge variety in traditional clothes, because it spans several climate zones. Some desert peoples had clothes that would withstand both hot and cold conditions, because in their environment the days were hot but the nights were cold.
@@kathilisi3019 fair point, if unnecessarily pedantic. Bonus points for keeping with the channel theme.
@@lasagnasux4934 😂🥸
Metal won't insulate as such, but that is part of players means heat is trapped between. In many ways, it doesn't matter what the layers are, it's the gaps between them that actually insulate. And it's more that there is a separation than how big it is (unless you fill the gap with an insulating material like felt or wool or glass fibre)
0°C
Normal people: full cloathing, winter jacket
Metatron: Full plate armour
Me: T-shit, shorts and flip flops 😅
Very educational video. And perfect soundtrack!
If there is no wind I sometimes don’t even bother with a jacket at 32 F 😂
Sneaks of to convert 50 Fahrenheit to Celsius and gets reminded of that one time I was in Rome and me and my friends wore t-shirts while the italiens dressed in thick winter jackets…
Grew up in +20 to -40, worked around July Lake B.C. for a winter and it hit -53. Thermal pants, jeans, balaclava, long sleeved shirt under a sweater + coveralls and mechanics gloves... Now I live in a +42 to -17 area and everyone always asks if I'm cold come winter. Pants only come out below 10, long sleeves basically never, jacket stays in the trunk year round out of habit from my parents. The tourists to Niagara always go bug-eyed wearing their parka's and slush pants while I'm in a t-shirt and shorts lol.
I remember Sir Jason Kingsley of Modern History TV in this video. If I remember it correctly, there is one episode when he also tried donning his armor set in winter.
last winter I could not wear jeans or trousers for 2 weeks (because of a big new tattoo). I don't own any sweatpants so I did something like a historical skirt thing with my woolen skirt under another skirt and a floor lenth summer skirt on top. This combo was much more protective than wearing jeans and I didn't fell cold at all (-5 to -7 degrees Celsius and windy). Also I think leather shoes and wool socks combo works for me to up to -10C.
Trust me when i tell you, even modern cold weather gear doesn’t keep you warm, when temps are below freezing. I was stationed in Ft. Drum NY. My sleeping bag for instance was rated for -50 F, and even at -30 you don’t sleep, you chatter all night! 😂🥶
I also wanted to add to the "things named after where the English display them" category as I've been doing some reading on the "Burney relief" recently. From, mesopotamia which is a good long distance from Burney
In winter stay dry. Wet clothes freeze and so will you. You dress in layers so that you can remove some as you sweat. Once those insulating layers a wet they can freeze, so no insulation.
When you wear armer, you probably are ready for action, in that case the kinetic energy will surely keep you warm.
while steel would conduct heat better, in this case making you cold faster, its also, where it covers, totally wind and water proof. and there might be something to how it might pack the layers underneath that also helps you keep warm.
I'm from Western Siberia, for me extreme cold starts from around -40C and extreme heat from around 35C :-))
Cloaks sir add a good cloak to the kit you have and that will help with being warm and even wearing the mail
Love how much research you pput in this
Interesting and helpful. Normally I overheat in my plate. Going to give it a shot tomorrow to try it out. In Ireland minus temps here atm.
Walk into an unheated metal workshop first thing in the morning in winter. Even if it's cold outside, you'll feel like you've been dipped in liquid nitrogen as soon as you enter.
This is because metal, including steel, is a very good conductor of heat.
So...if you felt well protected from the cold in your plate, it must have been because of the non-metal layers in your get-up. Even the wind protection effect of the plate would have been well-balanced by its ability to conduct heat from you to the environment.
This is it. Good old Metatron = gold 👏👏
Hi Metatron. I'm new to your channel and have been watching lots of your recent content. I'm glad that this video is not a response to anything but you and your team's own creation.