If we were so lucky to get people like this guy into our political system, the world would transform into a much better place. He's very honorable to share his skill set and knowledge.
Hmm... A lot like Thomas Jefferson. Other farmers who were successful politicians include George Washington. Though not a farmer, Ron Paul would have been a good choice..
The end of this video (last two minutes) is extremely insightful. He talks about the importance of sustainability and the fallacy of our use of petroleum in our day and age. Most pathetic is how we, "use 14 calories to consume 1 calorie."
My first mill was a Turner Mill. Very simple, solid machine. It got me hooked on saw milling. Since I do all mobile milling, I quickly upgraded to a used WoodMizer LT40, better suited for mobile work. That said, the Turner would make a great addition to any farm.
Joel, the act of siviculture IS agriculture .....of trees. Look it up. When you said you "didn't have the words"....that's the word you needed... especially in that MEETING! Rock on!
Silvoculture is generally defined as growing crops in the ;alleys' between trees. You are right, though. He could have made that argument, but timber land is probably already defined in Va. State law as something other than agriculture. Remember, politicians and laws do not have to make sense.
The added bonus here is that you can burn the slabs and edgings (and quite possibly even the sawdust, too) in an outdoor wood furnace to heat your home and shop. Practically zero waste, and the bug and vermin attracting mess kept under control at the same time.
This narrow kerf mill produces very little sawdust. What they do produce is probably used for winter bedding. They do make firewood. Even better than outdoor wood furnaces is a good wood stove. Radiant heat is superior to blowing hot air around. Better yet is a rocket mass stove heater, They use about 1/5th to 1/10th the wood. Check it out.
What brand name is that mill ? And does that mill have tires that the blade ride on ? I'm asking because a man that I used to help mill lumber had a mill that looks just like that one heavy steel track and the log stoppers everything looks the same .. and that was back in the early yr 2000
I've done the same I run a local tree trimming business my neighbors nuisance tree become lumber firewood ash chips and cash. I'm looking to expand into more stainable, regenerative, and low environmental impact systems.
It's farm country here in Winchester, Virginia...and you won't see anyone with portable sawmills. If they have 6000 dollars to burn, they would rather buy an atv or a zero radius lawnmower. Go figure
Yeah.. but you just don't know the pain until you've lived here.. I came from timberland in northern California.. Now that I'm in NC I've never mowed so much grass in my life!
A simple chainsaw mill is all you need. It will take an entire day to do a tree, but it's also only 150 dollars for an Alaskan chainsaw on amazon, as compared to starting at 2 grand for a mill.
@Pat Collins I built and used a chainsaw mill. I didn't like the waste or excess sawdust caused by the large kerf, but I especially disliked the speed. If I were to do it again and didn't have the $7k, I'd probably build my own bandsaw mill. But honestly, the older I get (I'm 54), the more I learn that it's better to spend money to save time, because I haven't found a way to make more of the latter. 😀
The deep state that intends to have the populous at their mercy on every level. Little by little, they’re already gaining control of the water supply throughout the country.
@@MJorgy5 - To play the devil's advocate, they don't think in terms of small, decentralized sawmills, (or anything). They are thinking of a large, industrial style operation. Still... liberty means that you can do whatever you want, so long as you are not interfering with someone else doing what they want. This little mill on his farm does not impede anyone else from living their own life. Except those who want to control others- but that is forbidden in the USA, IF we were honoring our Constitution and other founding documents.
He was able to get an exception written into the law just by showing up & voicing his concern. Dumb laws are not just written by politicians. Dumb laws are written when lazy citizens don't participate.
Little off on his lumber pricing. Framing grade lumber can be bought for 40-50 cents a board foot at any lumber yard. An 8' 2x4 contains 5.33bd ft, so it's worth what it saves you from buying (plus sales tax plus the taxes on your income you would have paid in order to have after tax money to BUY that 2x4....I figure about 30% between the two in my State and income level) 5.33 x 50 cents = 2.67 + 30% = ~ $3.50. STILL not a bad return.....I can saw couple hundred of them in a day, so "penny saved is a penny earned", I can earn myself $700/day (less cost of gas/maintenance/etc) IF I can use the lumber on my place instead of buying it at a lumber yard. Those are the real numbers.
My husband and I were very enlightened and entertained by you're video about Japanese Beetles. Good information. I plan to murder them all as soon as I see them again. 🙂 I do not have chickens where we live now. I want chickens again. Best pets and exterminators.
The concept for our federation off States was that The People would be free- and government and corporations would be regulated. That was the concept...
If we were so lucky to get people like this guy into our political system, the world would transform into a much better place. He's very honorable to share his skill set and knowledge.
Hmm... A lot like Thomas Jefferson. Other farmers who were successful politicians include George Washington.
Though not a farmer, Ron Paul would have been a good choice..
@I'll do it - Aside from running out of other people's money... the problem with socialism is that the 'benefits' always come with strings.
The end of this video (last two minutes) is extremely insightful. He talks about the importance of sustainability and the fallacy of our use of petroleum in our day and age. Most pathetic is how we, "use 14 calories to consume 1 calorie."
...makes the obesity epidemic in america even that much more appauling lmao
My first mill was a Turner Mill. Very simple, solid machine. It got me hooked on saw milling. Since I do all mobile milling, I quickly upgraded to a used WoodMizer LT40, better suited for mobile work. That said, the Turner would make a great addition to any farm.
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Joel, the act of siviculture IS agriculture .....of trees. Look it up. When you said you "didn't have the words"....that's the word you needed... especially in that MEETING! Rock on!
Silvoculture is generally defined as growing crops in the ;alleys' between trees. You are right, though. He could have made that argument, but timber land is probably already defined in Va. State law as something other than agriculture. Remember, politicians and laws do not have to make sense.
What an incredible guy!!!
The added bonus here is that you can burn the slabs and edgings (and quite possibly even the sawdust, too) in an outdoor wood furnace to heat your home and shop. Practically zero waste, and the bug and vermin attracting mess kept under control at the same time.
This narrow kerf mill produces very little sawdust. What they do produce is probably used for winter bedding. They do make firewood.
Even better than outdoor wood furnaces is a good wood stove. Radiant heat is superior to blowing hot air around. Better yet is a rocket mass stove heater, They use about 1/5th to 1/10th the wood. Check it out.
A belt and suspenders? Joel Salatin don't trust nobody!
Does Joel cover building a lumber kiln anywhere? If it's in this vid I missed it somehow.
What brand name is that mill ? And does that mill have tires that the blade ride on ? I'm asking because a man that I used to help mill lumber had a mill that looks just like that one heavy steel track and the log stoppers everything looks the same .. and that was back in the early yr 2000
It’s a Turner Mills saw mill. And, yep, the blade is secured by tires.
@@JeffGray ok thank you..
I've done the same I run a local tree trimming business my neighbors nuisance tree become lumber firewood ash chips and cash. I'm looking to expand into more stainable, regenerative, and low environmental impact systems.
Wondering if it's possible to do rough sawn lumber as well as smooth with this mill?
Rough sawn lumber is an industry term that means it came straight off a sawmill.
It's farm country here in Winchester, Virginia...and you won't see anyone with portable sawmills. If they have 6000 dollars to burn, they would rather buy an atv or a zero radius lawnmower. Go figure
Yeah.. but you just don't know the pain until you've lived here.. I came from timberland in northern California.. Now that I'm in NC I've never mowed so much grass in my life!
did he say what brand of mill that is?
turner mill, I got it
leif707 Made by Bill Turner in New York. He was a race car mechanic.
Someone is definitely laying an egg in the background hahahah
A simple chainsaw mill is all you need. It will take an entire day to do a tree, but it's also only 150 dollars for an Alaskan chainsaw on amazon, as compared to starting at 2 grand for a mill.
Nick Collinet have you ever tried to use an Alaskan mill vs. "cheap" manual bandmill....spend the 7k trust me ....I have used/own both.
@Pat Collins I built and used a chainsaw mill. I didn't like the waste or excess sawdust caused by the large kerf, but I especially disliked the speed. If I were to do it again and didn't have the $7k, I'd probably build my own bandsaw mill. But honestly, the older I get (I'm 54), the more I learn that it's better to spend money to save time, because I haven't found a way to make more of the latter. 😀
wtf????? sawmills illegal on farms... Who would do such a thing?? Who in the right mind would make a law like that????
Alex Murray
Politicians who want to reap tax benefits on natural resources.
The deep state that intends to have the populous at their mercy on every level. Little by little, they’re already gaining control of the water supply throughout the country.
@@MJorgy5 - To play the devil's advocate, they don't think in terms of small, decentralized sawmills, (or anything). They are thinking of a large, industrial style operation.
Still... liberty means that you can do whatever you want, so long as you are not interfering with someone else doing what they want. This little mill on his farm does not impede anyone else from living their own life. Except those who want to control others- but that is forbidden in the USA, IF we were honoring our Constitution and other founding documents.
He was able to get an exception written into the law just by showing up & voicing his concern. Dumb laws are not just written by politicians. Dumb laws are written when lazy citizens don't participate.
Peloci did it
Little off on his lumber pricing. Framing grade lumber can be bought for 40-50 cents a board foot at any lumber yard. An 8' 2x4 contains 5.33bd ft, so it's worth what it saves you from buying (plus sales tax plus the taxes on your income you would have paid in order to have after tax money to BUY that 2x4....I figure about 30% between the two in my State and income level) 5.33 x 50 cents = 2.67 + 30% = ~ $3.50.
STILL not a bad return.....I can saw couple hundred of them in a day, so "penny saved is a penny earned", I can earn myself $700/day (less cost of gas/maintenance/etc) IF I can use the lumber on my place instead of buying it at a lumber yard.
Those are the real numbers.
How about now?
My husband and I were very enlightened and entertained by you're video about Japanese Beetles. Good information. I plan to murder them all as soon as I see them again. 🙂 I do not have chickens where we live now. I want chickens again. Best pets and exterminators.
no quarter to redcoats
Hmmm, people built log cabins because they didn't have a sawmill but they did have axes
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hahahaha i love joel
Big business taking away the rights of every man. It's a tale as old as time. At least we don't eat each other. (for the most part)
then let's get after it and change the momentum, starting with ourselves
The concept for our federation off States was that The People would be free- and government and corporations would be regulated. That was the concept...
Unfortunately, aborted babies are used by many brands such as Kelloggs and Campbell's as flavor enhancers. 😢
@@thesaintmustwalkalone708 Puh-leeze.
@@wendyscott8425 it's fact.
I swear Joel is jesus in the farming religion...Joel 2024 sorry gotta have that trump 2020