Getting Wind Stocks Guaranteed, Safely, and Generally - Street Fighter 6 Lily Tech
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So funny I said drive stocks at the beginning instead of wind stocks but you know what I meant LOL
Hey question, what's your opinion of the Zangief match-up?
I feel it's her worst, since she lacks a true DP and zangief lives on meaties, as well as having great ways to bypass her buttons meant to stuff him out. Also, his grab is technically faster than hers when I tested in training.
I think she wins 6-4 early impressions. Hard for him to get in on her
@@AllstateManlove Once he's in you're going to have a bad time, but you've got longer buttons than his and can keep him out. I feel like the higher rank you get the easier this matchup gets for Lily, but if you struggle to take advantage of her neutral then it's a lot harder for you.
LMAO it's all good fam, keep up the good work!
@ElChakotay thank you, I struggle with neutral evidently with lily as I am used to characters who either skip it or enforce their own (answer in xrd and c viper in SF4)
Do you have a neutral guide on lily?
Two weeks after the game dropped I finally got off my ass and did my Lily placement matches. Landed in Gold 4. That, and wherever I end up, will be due in large part to what I learn from you. Thank you, Tay 😊. I can't think of a better person to lead the Lily army!
I've just picked up SF6 and started out with Marisa and Lily and love the content man. Really helped me with finding useful fundamentals for Lily.
Great stuff, thanks for this. While labbing I noticed that you can get multiple windstocks safely in these situations.
Counter DI: 2 windstocks
HP counter: 3 windstocks due to the slow crumple and subsequent neutral reset.
It takes minimum 90 frames to charge 2 windstocks and 109 frames to charge 3. It was nice to find out that the third windstock charges disproportionately fast.
Thank you, i was struggling in platinum to get windstock without eating a DI this helps so much
thats whats up. Just came across your channel but i been watching your CFN replays since the game dropped to learn this character. Shout outs to every one else playing Lily!
1:15 "You just gappy"...this needs to become official FGC vernacular. Such a simple way to describe the dangers of block strings vs true block strings. And they way they make DI so dramatic in 6 makes the example so much more demonstrable to new players. I know this is a Lily specific video, but I would 100% lead any noob playing any character to this exact video to the gappy paradox for a perfect example of this be a true block string and this be why you should know.
Loving these videos, started watching you on Twitch now. Leading the Lily army! Keep it up dude
this video legit changed everything for me, it made my games much easier
Just began my Lily journey and youre a great teacher. Good stuff!
Nicely done Tay. This is useful stuff. Combo guides are a dime a dozen but I love videos like this.
Great video and advice bro!!!! I definitely want to heard the commentary!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥
great great video learn so much.
Btw for your first tip for the block string. It doesn't work on stand heavy because for some reason you can't cancel stand heavy on the first active frame like you can with back heavy. Stand heavy actually has 1 more frame of blockstun than back heavy however the extra two frames it takes to cancel negates this and gives the opponent a gap to DI thru the block string as it means they come out of blockstun on the exact frame the medium windstock hits.
Also worth noting you can ex/light grab after drive rush 4hp/6hp. Works really well as a mixup after going for safe stocks.
Great guide, the drive rush heavies are very useful.
Learning new stuff with every upload. Up to Silver now 💪🏿
You should do a merch line or something, I'd love an El Chakotay + Lily shirt or something. I got your Mika hoodie before, still wear it.
I climbed to platinum with lily then switched to blanka.
I now know what it’s like to win without having to think about a million things at once. I didn’t realize how hard I’ve been working for Ws with lily.
I feel super powerful now
I’ll keep her in the pocket for now if she gets buffed I’ll main again.
I like how you switch from "oh fuck I don't know this matchup!"-character-1 to "oh fuck I don't know this matchup!"-character-2
@@ThefamousMrcroissant pretty spot on with that assessment 😅 I was also fang main for the entirety SFV
Same. I really wish she was better but I'm picking up Chun till Lilly gets buffs or they drop Makoto lol.
@@xeno5384 yeaa sadly her main game plan loses bad to drive impact.
How I feel being a Jamie main.
Super helpful, your tech has been helping me a ton!
If you can do a guide versus a JP would be awesome dude. Thank you so much for this one
Try to get used to noticing which zone he’s using. When you see the overhead/low/mid/command grab ones… you can DR through them and punish. Basically, parry everything he’s zoning, and when you see the right one hold parry and dash through it.
Great content!
bro THANK U for this video.
i suppose this is why i kinda hate street fighter. . .like who would think that standing heavy would fuck it up but crouching heavy wouldn't fuck up block string? makes no sense in my mind lol, and from a noob standpoint it def makes no sense.
thanks again for pointing this out :), this is going ot make me go up a few ranks. . .can't tell u how many times i get DI'ed trying to get wind stocks.
That corner one is definitely gonna cause rage. I'm all about it lol
Thank you for these videos!
Great vid my guy. Struggling with lily. Any advice on the manon mu? I’ve have yet to beat manon in a match. Very annoying and awkward character to face.
These vids have been extremely helpful to me. Thank you.
Good stuff as always
thank you for the lily tutorials man really appreciate it. can I ask what your training mode settings are?
Thanks for doing these guides!
ah man I gotta save this video and do some homework in the lab
Thanks for this, Lily is a very fun character
Thanks for the continuos guides. Why would you want to opt for forward heavy or standing heavy over crouch heavy after DR as shown in the beginning? I really use crouch heavy for everything at the moment.
Horn breaker has slightly more range (back heavy), but it's slower and harder as a hit confirm. Also do you ever use the overhead? I've given it a fair chance but it's so unbelievably slow even silvers just jab me out of it.
You shouldn't opt for st hp after DR but for f hp, I do it after command grab sometimes since it's a real meaty and it throws off wake up parry timings. Just as a way to switch it up a bit. I use cr hp the most since it's the best heavy imo. I use overhead after drive rush sometimes in set ups but that's about it. It needs to be a lil faster
Looking to forward to the content
Adding to book and thanks!!
Thanks, cause I needed this.
This is good stuff, thanks for the guide.
Thank u bruddah 4 the tech.
Thanks for the info!!
Was watching the top japanese player on CFN replays and noticed he did that same loop over and over on people
Also a lot of crosscut dps
spitting lily tech
Thank you 🙏
I just hit silver thanks to your guides, thank you 😄
Thanks man! Help me level up my game
Love you chakotay im fans😊😅
I figured out the corner store plus frames a few days ago and I feel like I've steamrolled in the corner ever since, but I'm sure part of it is people just not knowing that she's plus there. I've also been messing around with sweep a lot and you're 0 after store with punish counter sweep, but idk why you would sweep when you could just crouch fierce.
What do you mean at 1:44 , where you say you get plus after Dash to get oki?
So after hitting that level 1 super, you are + so you get oki after it but only in the corner. You're plus 6 after dash from a grounded level 1 super and you can be more plus if you combo them from ex spire into level 1
Was wondering if anyone has tried just doing the first two hits of her forward hard Punch Target combo and then going for the command grab instead of the third hit? I was messing around and ranked and used it quite a bit to catch people off guard. I was landing it on hit and on block. Somebody let me know if this is real tech or not please lol. Oh and I'm definitely taking that combo.
Lily is so interesting but incomplete. What buffs does she need? I think she should start with one stock and make her DP a actual DP.
She has no options in neutral without windstocks besides heavy into winds - which is extremely vulnerable to DI. Her sweep is -15 on block and the rest of her buttons are super stubby (except standing medium punch, but it doesn't go anywhere nor allows you to generate stocks).
I just wish she had access to a few more options. If they'd buff the overhead or one of her lows she'd be in a much better spot I think.
She needs a better anti-air, the angle of her DP is super exploitable
@@Commission_ Her best anti-air options are air-to-airs. That being said her air buttons are *very* good. If you manage to jump back into her medium air target combo you're full screen and +40, so you can wind stock for free. Jumping light kick is quick and hits both sides, so it stuffs a lot of jump in options, and for cross-ups you can always cross-cut DP.
I struggle with her anti air. I always get hit
It takes practice honestly
I'm trying that corner wind stock loop but it's putting me at -4, not +2
Edit: nvm I was just too slow lol
All of this is nice, but to truly assess ppls weakness they need one on one via something like metafy or even paypal.
I don't charge for that stuff I do it for free for those who ask
WHAT GOOD DOES EX WIND STOCK DO? IT SEEMS THE SAME AS ANY NORMAL VERSION..
Faster than medium wind stock and knocks down like heavy wind stock.
It lets you pick if you want a follow-up to your wind charge or not, which can be useful if you don't know what your opponent is going to do.
It's good for punish counter combos and making cr hp into wind stock a true block string and safe
In the corner you can follow it with a Tomahawk buster because it makes opponent stay in the air more
This helped so much. Keep giving us the SAUCE!!!
her crouching heavy for anti is so inconsistent.
It takes practice to get used to
I find it extremely consistent
I'm surprised that you play Lily.
She's so bad but fun to win with 😂
thanks！it's helpful！