@maxpower789z 2006 dx lite with just shwwn and hhh were pg era babyfaces. Scott hall (rip) once said there was plans to do hbk/hhh (dx) vs hall and nash (nwo) with xpac being the middle guy and the storyline woulda been no one knows which side xpac will be on
Maybe somebody can answer this question, did Vince have the last say of that tape being made into the documentary or was Vince totally not connected to it , and was it just an invite after the documentary guy to see Bretts life in wrestling ?
Seeing as how he was one of the important guys in pro wrestling history id guess he'd know. I mean he was there and actually knew the people involved unlike you.
I have said this since day one. The merger was the final nail in the coffin. It was only a matter of time. Big companies are not interested in wrestling.
Vince Russo is the dumbest mind to ever enter the world of professional wrestling, and he has never had one iota of respect for, or understanding of, the business. Bischoff was too busy on his knees in front of Hogan to actually care about the company and run it well.
@@eptx830 you call how he handled the CM Punk situation respecting talent? Oh please 😂. Either way that doesn’t make him a good booker. He’d try putting on a better show and letting all the brilliant talent there help him do that if he respected the business.
It's like there's different Nash's... this hair acts and talks a certain way. Flat top Nash is different. Big sexy/Big daddy cool. 2 different TNA Nash's I think. And I mean like different people not just look haha its crazy. Now you got Podcast Nash.
and every time he was on, I tuned out. Glad he hurt himself in WWF, I was gonna stop watching even that. These people tearing their quad over nothing seems ridiculous, like they never worked out a day in their life
“The Death of WCW” should be a nice parallel to “The Death of AEW” on a Dark Side of the Ring Episode Tony Khan has WBDiscovery playing the part of AOL/Time Warner
Is he talking about Wrestling with Shadows? About Vince walking out staggering? If so, its not a WWE production nor did they have any editing rights to it. That's the only thing i can think of.
Nash and Hall is such an awesome team name. I don't know if I've ever heard anyone talk about Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Hall, but they literally sounded like outlaws with their names. It was so awesome
@@mattmorgan2534 he was stoned when he made the famous “adjective” statement. He was stoned on Austin’s podcast; so it’s not a exactly a stretch to assume.
But that's what Kevin was talking about. The AOL merger is what took away Ted Turners power as a controlling director. WCW was dead in less than a year after the merger
@@memecity9849 And the merger talks began way before people realize. A merger of that magnitude takes years to consolidate. I would estimate that it began in the beginning of '97.
Russo is nowhere near as bad as he’s made out to be. He’s far from perfect, but the WWF AND TNA enjoyed their highest ratings when he was writing and producing. And who knows what woulda happened in WCW if the older paranoid wrestlers like Hulk and Flair woulda bought into his plans, and wasn’t a victim of the good ol boys network within WCW’s power structure. I remember the first Nitro when he took over. WCW was struggling hard before he arrived, and he instantly made it a much more entertaining show, by giving EVERYONE a storyline, and making them bigger “characters”. Me personally, I thought Hulk Hogan’s character, pulling up in his all black Charger & cussing everyone out was some of Hogan’s best work. Feuding him with Kidman was questionable to say the least, but I couldn’t NOT watch! 😂🤷🏾♂️
Agreed. Although I still think him and Ed Ferrara writing together were the reason for the magic. Creative minds who fed off each other. He wasn't with Russo long in WCW if memory serves. But anyone who birches about their 1998-99 WWF material either wasn't even born then or didn't live thru it like we did. 1998 RAWs were must-see for a reason.
100% true. He's an easy target. If you're gonna hang every failure that's happened in wrestling since 97 on him at least give him credit when it's due.
For 83 weeks, WCW beat WWF. Late 96' into early '97, Vince almost closed the doors to the WWF. Eric Bischoff made that happen with the NWO angle, and along with Scott Hall, the "Sting" gimmick. Yes, he has a good mind for the business.
@@PGO_Gaming Millie Vanillie was number 1 on the charts for a long time and made millions of dollars. Do they have a good mind for music? Bischoff got lucky. The most serendipitous luck just like Russo in the wrestling business next to Herd and Nash, himself.
@@gullyblanchard5750 Yep. Hiring Russo was a desperate attempt to steal some magic from the WWF, in hopes that they'd not save the company, but be able to fetch a higher asking price.
@@banksta3Instead it sold for peanuts, so Bischoff and Russo deserve some blame for that If WCW was doing good business in 2001, WWF likely isnt able to afford it. Someone else wouldve ended up buying it and maybe WCW still exists today, Bro
@@CannedHam2479 I didn't say it worked, but that was the plan. Russo wasn't bringing Austin, Rock, Taker, HHH & Mankind with him. He gets too much credit for the WWF success, and WCW failings than he deserves.
Big shout out to Kevin Nash
Stream the Full Shoot Interview (2007)
➡titlematchnetwork.com/wrestling-shoot-interviews-results/
Love Kevin Nash shoot interviews he is a master at working people lol
What is a "shoot" interview
Feels like Nash is cool with everybody in the business, even if they screw up or aren't popular with others. Big Sexy is just that chill.
The smartest thing WWE could have done with The nWo would have had them work against Degeneration X.
Like at WrestleMania? Lol
Meh, nWo more or less was the WCW extension of DX and vice versa. Maybe if DX was a face team at the time maybe
@maxpower789z 2006 dx lite with just shwwn and hhh were pg era babyfaces. Scott hall (rip) once said there was plans to do hbk/hhh (dx) vs hall and nash (nwo) with xpac being the middle guy and the storyline woulda been no one knows which side xpac will be on
@@JohnAdams-bb3qzx pac is a douche so nobody cares
NWO would have had to put DX over
It was NOT a WWE tape. It was the people filming WRESTLING WITH SHADOWS.
Maybe somebody can answer this question, did Vince have the last say of that tape being made into the documentary or was Vince totally not connected to it , and was it just an invite after the documentary guy to see Bretts life in wrestling ?
@@steveo976I don’t think Vince knew anything about the documentary. Bret had already moved on.
I think WWE would need to give permission for them to use the footage
"I think everything is a work" - Kevin Nash.
Seeing as how he was one of the important guys in pro wrestling history id guess he'd know. I mean he was there and actually knew the people involved unlike you.
If it ain’t a work, it doesn’t mean you can’t work it like one.
What?😂
I have said this since day one. The merger was the final nail in the coffin. It was only a matter of time. Big companies are not interested in wrestling.
Vince Russo is the dumbest mind to ever enter the world of professional wrestling, and he has never had one iota of respect for, or understanding of, the business. Bischoff was too busy on his knees in front of Hogan to actually care about the company and run it well.
So you think Tony Khan is better?
@@gullyblanchard5750 Tony loves this business and respects the talent.
@@eptx830Tiny Tony is running a profitless passion project
Never has and never will make a red cent of profit
@@eptx830 you call how he handled the CM Punk situation respecting talent? Oh please 😂. Either way that doesn’t make him a good booker. He’d try putting on a better show and letting all the brilliant talent there help him do that if he respected the business.
Bischoff was the only guy that turned a profit for WCW.
Not Herd, not Watts, not Ole, not Russo.
Kevin is way smarter than he is given credit for!
It's like there's different Nash's... this hair acts and talks a certain way. Flat top Nash is different. Big sexy/Big daddy cool. 2 different TNA Nash's I think. And I mean like different people not just look haha its crazy. Now you got Podcast Nash.
and every time he was on, I tuned out. Glad he hurt himself in WWF, I was gonna stop watching even that. These people tearing their quad over nothing seems ridiculous, like they never worked out a day in their life
@@ravinraven6913you don’t sound miserable at all
“The Death of WCW” should be a nice parallel to “The Death of AEW” on a Dark Side of the Ring Episode
Tony Khan has WBDiscovery playing the part of AOL/Time Warner
AEW will survive they have the greatest booker in wrestling history in Tony khan 😅
Nash's trauma flashbacks over Thunder
Thanks!
Thank you!! We really appreciate it man
Is he talking about Wrestling with Shadows? About Vince walking out staggering? If so, its not a WWE production nor did they have any editing rights to it. That's the only thing i can think of.
I thought Shawn vs Brett the screw job was a work the best better then Lawler VS Kauffman
Nash looks high AF!!
lmfao 😂 im sure Russo tries to somehow some crazy way to take credit for the nWo 😅😂
Nash and Hall is such an awesome team name. I don't know if I've ever heard anyone talk about Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Hall, but they literally sounded like outlaws with their names. It was so awesome
I may have fumbled the order of the names, but it was still cool to me
Love the shoot guys but the vince "stagger" was caught on tape by paul jay, independent film maker of wrestling with shadows not WWF
What are shoot guys. What the hell does this shoot word mean in regards to wrestling
"Shoot" or "a shoot" is when a wrestler or event goes off script and real things happen and real emotions take over.
@@memecity9849 oh...well thank u for explaining
@@blackngoldfacenope93 you're welcome
He looks high on this
Nope. Not even close.
He is high.
2007, the end of the oxy days(the original ones)
He’s not.
@@mattmorgan2534 he was stoned when he made the famous “adjective” statement. He was stoned on Austin’s podcast; so it’s not a exactly a stretch to assume.
Kevin is wrong as long as Ted Turner was in control wrestling was safe when Time Warner got control that was the death blow
But that's what Kevin was talking about. The AOL merger is what took away Ted Turners power as a controlling director. WCW was dead in less than a year after the merger
@@memecity9849 And the merger talks began way before people realize. A merger of that magnitude takes years to consolidate. I would estimate that it began in the beginning of '97.
I miss this Kevin Nash. The one who wasn’t afraid to critique WWE, and didn’t go on mindless woke diatribes every 5 minutes.
Ugh he’s woke now?! I agree this classic Kevin is best.
Aw did he hurt your feelings?
@@kurtbrowning9765 how? I moved on with my life while wokesters want everything cancelled if it doesn’t agree with them.
👍
@@calamaty9963 😭 😭 😭
Russo is nowhere near as bad as he’s made out to be. He’s far from perfect, but the WWF AND TNA enjoyed their highest ratings when he was writing and producing. And who knows what woulda happened in WCW if the older paranoid wrestlers like Hulk and Flair woulda bought into his plans, and wasn’t a victim of the good ol boys network within WCW’s power structure. I remember the first Nitro when he took over. WCW was struggling hard before he arrived, and he instantly made it a much more entertaining show, by giving EVERYONE a storyline, and making them bigger “characters”. Me personally, I thought Hulk Hogan’s character, pulling up in his all black Charger & cussing everyone out was some of Hogan’s best work. Feuding him with Kidman was questionable to say the least, but I couldn’t NOT watch! 😂🤷🏾♂️
Agreed. Although I still think him and Ed Ferrara writing together were the reason for the magic. Creative minds who fed off each other. He wasn't with Russo long in WCW if memory serves. But anyone who birches about their 1998-99 WWF material either wasn't even born then or didn't live thru it like we did. 1998 RAWs were must-see for a reason.
100% true. He's an easy target. If you're gonna hang every failure that's happened in wrestling since 97 on him at least give him credit when it's due.
"Big Lazy"
Imagine being that massive, and having to take bumps from Goldturd.
Sting????
What about Luger?
Eric
Hello
Uhhh did this fxcking guy just say Eric and Russo have "get it" and "has a good mind for the business." That opinion really sucks.
For 83 weeks, WCW beat WWF. Late 96' into early '97, Vince almost closed the doors to the WWF. Eric Bischoff made that happen with the NWO angle, and along with Scott Hall, the "Sting" gimmick. Yes, he has a good mind for the business.
@@PGO_Gaming Millie Vanillie was number 1 on the charts for a long time and made millions of dollars. Do they have a good mind for music? Bischoff got lucky. The most serendipitous luck just like Russo in the wrestling business next to Herd and Nash, himself.
Kevin Nash is lazy
How so?
@@blablablabla4236 He let Hall do all the work on Nitros.
Russo killed WCW
It was dead before he got there. Company was already in talks of being sold in '99, the turner execs wanted wrestling off their network.
Bankrupt Bischoff killed WCW
Theres no way WCW sells for peanuts if WCW was still making a profit in 2000/2001 the way it was in 1998
@@gullyblanchard5750 Yep. Hiring Russo was a desperate attempt to steal some magic from the WWF, in hopes that they'd not save the company, but be able to fetch a higher asking price.
@@banksta3Instead it sold for peanuts, so Bischoff and Russo deserve some blame for that
If WCW was doing good business in 2001, WWF likely isnt able to afford it. Someone else wouldve ended up buying it and maybe WCW still exists today, Bro
@@CannedHam2479 I didn't say it worked, but that was the plan. Russo wasn't bringing Austin, Rock, Taker, HHH & Mankind with him. He gets too much credit for the WWF success, and WCW failings than he deserves.