The Origins of the Gatewatch - The Unknown Side of MTG

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  • Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
  • There are few groups as important to the overarching narrative of Magic the Gathering as The Gatewatch. This group of planeswalkers is sworn to protect the multiverse from threats that only powerful mages such as them could control and has intervened in several of the multiverse’s most dire conflicts. These planeswalkers came together to stop apocalypses and save entire planes but started from relatively humble beginnings in very different corners of the multiverse. Today we’ll be going over the backstories of the founding members of The Gatewatch as established in Magic Origins and what made them who they are today.
    Script by Uncrowned Jules
    Editing by Pumkinswift
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    (Just a note, we have people who actually know the game very well making the scripts for this channel. As the owner of the channel (Theduellogs/hirumaredx) is a total newbie to the game.)
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Комментарии • 47

  • @iamfat6164
    @iamfat6164 2 месяца назад +25

    oh we get lore analyses now? sweet, i love videos break downs of the story since it’s not the easiest to start with

  • @vincentxu8217
    @vincentxu8217 2 месяца назад +16

    I couldn’t help but picture this in my head:
    Liliana: Say my name
    TheManaLogs: *Lilian*
    Liliana: You are goddamn WRONG

    • @moleculeman27
      @moleculeman27 2 месяца назад +3

      It is incredibly irritating. It's not just a one-off. They've lost a subscriber - I can't trust any information here if they cannot even read the names written on the cards.

  • @thienaunguyen6064
    @thienaunguyen6064 2 месяца назад +4

    I would like you to expand on the side stories of Lillian. Especially the ones where after causing mischief on Vern and Kernel Keep, she's finally subdued of her necrop-potence by the lenoir elves after casting fastbound.

  • @rukeyazu8669
    @rukeyazu8669 2 месяца назад

    I think lore videos like this are my favorite type of video from this channel.

  • @melvinshine9841
    @melvinshine9841 2 месяца назад +7

    2:33 Huh, I figured out Magic had alternate artworks for cards, but I didn't know there were cards with the same name but different flavor text.
    Damn, making someone forget how to breathe is cold, but the guy kinda had it coming.
    I'm starting to get the feeling this Nico Bolas just causes utter chaos for shits and giggles.

    • @Blizz6311
      @Blizz6311 2 месяца назад +1

      He became God pharaoh and started the War of the spark

    • @randomguy6680
      @randomguy6680 2 месяца назад

      He was the god emperor of Madara and the god pharaoh of Amonkhet.
      After the Elder Dragon War, he caused the death of all the other survivors. He rewarded his subject's tyrany (towards humans). He helped humans (against their will) genocide dragins just to spite his brother. He got the Eldrazi released to spite his brother.
      He causes chaos to eliminate anyone even close to his power level, get more powerfull, spit on his brother's grave (as he believe to have killed him) and be worshipped in fear. He does not have much chaos left to cause for shits and giggles (but ig he totally would. Being an omnipotent, near omniscient ruler of faithful shitingtheirpants followers has got to get boring at some point).

    • @victhefoxygamer_6180
      @victhefoxygamer_6180 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@randomguy6680Let's not forget that he's hanging out in Thunder Junction currently, for some reason. Doing crimes and shit just because I'd assume.

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 2 месяца назад

      One _does_ tend to go thru long dry spells in 25 millennia.

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 2 месяца назад

      ​​@@victhefoxygamer_6180Um, what? Of the thousandfold pre-established characters present in Thunder Junction, neither Bolas nor Ugin were among them. The closest we got to an 'elder' dragon's presence is Niv-Mizzet's own interest in the place.

  • @soxs28
    @soxs28 2 месяца назад

    Love the lore vids, looking forward to next one.

  • @BS-bv5sh
    @BS-bv5sh 2 месяца назад +4

    The old pronounce Liliana wrong for engagement gambit.

    • @moleculeman27
      @moleculeman27 2 месяца назад +2

      The engagement being unsubscribing in this case.

  • @olipod5470
    @olipod5470 2 месяца назад +1

    I certainly didn’t expect to find the keikaku meme there but nice

  • @fernandolousan1943
    @fernandolousan1943 2 месяца назад

    More lore analysis plzzz
    I love the ones you do for wow and MTG lore is pretty dope too!

  • @stretchsebe3572
    @stretchsebe3572 2 месяца назад +4

    Does anyone know the story that Kytheon's origin and his fight with Erebos 6:12 refers to?

  • @victhefoxygamer_6180
    @victhefoxygamer_6180 2 месяца назад

    I'd love to see a Video about Alara, and how it became five "shards" containing three sources of Mana each, then became whole again. It would also be cool to hear some bits of Ajani and more about Tezzeret, as both are natives of Alara.

  • @7Alberto7
    @7Alberto7 2 месяца назад

    Amazing!!!!!❤🎉

  • @DerrylHopkins
    @DerrylHopkins 2 месяца назад +5

    Oh, that's how you pronounce Liliana? I thought it was "lilly-awn-uh!"

    • @stigmaoftherose
      @stigmaoftherose 2 месяца назад +17

      It is, he said it wrong.

    • @DerrylHopkins
      @DerrylHopkins 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@stigmaoftheroseOh, okay. Thank you!

    • @calemr
      @calemr 2 месяца назад +1

      It's more lily-Ah-nuh.
      It's not whatever this video is doing.

  • @Tysler
    @Tysler 2 месяца назад

    Just found hirumaredx MTG channel RIP my social life i guess!

  • @blaze556922
    @blaze556922 2 месяца назад +3

    I've played mtg since the beginning but never have been into the lore. I love that it exists and know people who delve into it very deeply but I just don't get it. The characters and story lines seem very middle school to me. Even when I was in middle school.

    • @calemr
      @calemr 2 месяца назад +2

      The rise of Yawgmoth, The Brothers War, and the old Weatherlight stuff was good.
      Series lost a lot of it's edge when WOTC and Hasbro realised that if a story has consequences, then it means they might not be able to print a fifteenth version of Jace, so they knocked off Marvel and stuck him in the Avengers- I mean Gatewatch, so he can just keep showing up.

    • @ArixOdragc
      @ArixOdragc 2 месяца назад +1

      Don't insult middle schoolers like that.

  • @T4N7
    @T4N7 2 месяца назад

    U neglected that a dragon also needed to be present to break the seal on the Eye if Ugin, hence y Nicol Bolas made sure that Sarkhan ended up there since he is a planeswalker who can transform into a dragon.

  • @OgreSayrone
    @OgreSayrone 2 месяца назад +3

    MORE MAGIC LORE

  • @magiccardmaster9921
    @magiccardmaster9921 2 месяца назад +2

    Technically the og gatewatch was sorin nissa ugin and nahiri on zendakar who originally sealed the titans away

    • @alexandergraham1281
      @alexandergraham1281 2 месяца назад +1

      Nissan wasn't part of that original group, she didn't meet Sorin until the events of the Zendikar block, had she known about it beforehand she would never have allowed the Eldrazi to be sealed on her plane. It was her idea to try and release them when Sorin came to check the seal because she thought they'd just go away

  • @romanmccoy5074
    @romanmccoy5074 2 месяца назад +1

    Hello there

  • @arcuscotangens
    @arcuscotangens 2 месяца назад

    I always found the more I learn about the story of a set, the less I enjoy it. By far my favourite set was Zandikar before I knew the story, for example.

    • @calemr
      @calemr 2 месяца назад

      The core ideas are often intriguing, but WOTC and Hasbro A: Don't give any set enough time any more, and B: Are terrified of allowing any real long term consequences, because then they can't print cards of a dead character any more.
      (This reason is also why the Gatewatch exists: So a character who's finished their story can be crowbarred into other stories as an excuse to print more copies of Chandra or Jace.)
      The War of the Spark, one of the biggest, most climactic moments in the Multiverse, the result of Thousands of years of plotting by Nicol Bolas, to cast the Ever spell and kill ALL other planeswalkers... is over in a day and kills 3 named planeswalkers.
      And absolutely Nobody cares about Domri Rade anyway, so it may as well have been 2.
      And the afterlife of Theros is reachable, so Gideon could easily come back.
      So all we really lost is Dack Fayden.

  • @revdrianinvian1841
    @revdrianinvian1841 2 месяца назад +1

    I was never really bothered by stuff like this but everytime you say Lilian it's like nails to chalkboard for my ears.

  • @ArixOdragc
    @ArixOdragc 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm not typically one for exaggeration - and I hate the internet's tendency to label everything as either "the most perfectly amazing thing ever made", or "completely irredeemable trash that no one could possibly find any enjoyment in".
    But I can say, without a hint of exaggeration, that the Gatewatch arc is not only one of the worst stories Magic has ever done, but one of the worst professionally published pieces of fiction that I have ever had the displeasure of exposing my eyeballs to.

    • @OlympusPublicAffairs
      @OlympusPublicAffairs 2 месяца назад

      " I can say without a hint of exxaggeration..."
      *proceeds to be the most exaggerated as possible like they've done this numerous times.*

    • @ArixOdragc
      @ArixOdragc 2 месяца назад +1

      @@OlympusPublicAffairs But that's the thing - it's not an exaggeration if I honestly do think the story really is that bad. You may disagree, but that doesn't mean I'm exaggerating my own dislike of it.

  • @calemr
    @calemr 2 месяца назад +5

    Ah, The Jacevengers.
    A bunch of heroes who have largely finished their own stories, and so grouped up to intrude in other characters stories.
    They have a lot of narrative potential, but like most M:tG stories, they are really interesting in concept, and pretty terrible in execution. Which is a shame.

    • @ArixOdragc
      @ArixOdragc 2 месяца назад +1

      The origins of the Gatewatch are simple. One day, some suits at Hasbro saw that comic book superhero teams were popular these days, so they just pointed at them and said "Hey, do that. No it doesn't have to be good, no you don't need to put any real thought into it, no you don't need to try to integrate them well, just do Popular Thing."

    • @calemr
      @calemr 2 месяца назад

      @@ArixOdragc Also, "Wait, this guy's story is over? But we wanna keep printing cards for him. Throw him in some group that keeps showing up."

    • @engiopdf8745
      @engiopdf8745 2 месяца назад +1

      Unfortunately it's not the only WotC product that does this either. Lots of DnD lore is really good in abstract until you read about how WotC actually uses it in modules.

  • @LizaPlz
    @LizaPlz 2 месяца назад

    your pronunciations make me giggle