Snyder is the blood God. His Superman and WonderWoman and Batman are all killers. They all respect and believe soely in their own Supremacy. They seem to actually have little patience or use for humanity. Much like ahem, a certain someone.
Diana kills people in her solo movies. Even when it's not necessary, like one time she kicks a german out of a window leading to him falling to his death.
@@terrydubuisson4209 That she has killed before isn’t the issue and you know it. She and Batman and Superman are all bloodthirsty in Snyder films because - that’s Snyder for you.
"For killing a couple terrorist" She killed them when she didn't have to. She blew out the wall of the building and sent shrapnel into the crowd of police - when she didn't have to. You realize that she is a fictional character and the point is actually that SNYDER loves gore violence and bloodshed. He made his bones [pun intended] in Zombie movie remakes and went right back to it after Snyder Cut. He is really more suited to gore horror than super heroes. Does that answer your question?
@@dignerds Tell me again why exactly she was killing German teenagers that didn't choose to be there? How exactly did that help her defeat Ares (aka the only guy who remembers Darkseid)?
I kinda laughed at the scene where Aquaman struggles to kill 3 parademons, in AIR. His entire thing is water, but he fights in the sky?. Still, great movie tho
@@darlagoddesshate Idk how he would make anyone wet, he's just a fucking parody here, I laughed everytime he was on screen, he shouted "my man !" ffs xDD
Indeed. The first question any writer trying to write a Batman that's willing to kill should ask is, "Why wasn't The Joker his first victim?" In The Flashpoint Paradox, this was handled pretty much perfectly: Batman's willing to kill because Batman is Thomas Wayne, not Bruce, and he doesn't kill The Joker because The Joker is Martha Wayne.
Wow! Just.... wow.... And here I was *_Questioning my frigging sanity_* wondering if I was the only one to agree with Batman: Under the Red Hood implying Joker's death is the *_ONLY SENSIBLE WAY_* to end his mayhem!!!
I think this makes it better. Even a Batman that kills can't permanently beat the Joker. The Joker preys on Batman's weaknesses. If he doesn't want to kill Joker tries to force his hand, if he does want to kill, Joker just trolls him and makes sure he has leverage or an escape plan. Knowing that he's just annoying Batman of even more which is why Joker does what he does.
Seriously, the only practical way for that to happen, is for Joker to be at least equally as good in hand to hand combat and damn near completely unreachable from a distance.
Fun fact, Episode 1 of Smallville introduces teenage superman with him drinking from a bottle of milk, to which his mother tells him to use a glass, asking where he learned his manners, to which he replies... "On a farm."
The reason J'onn J'onzz is called Martian Manhunter is because at the time the character first appeared, the word "manhunter" meant "someone who hunts criminals". Martian Manhunter is supposed to be a detective (he first appeared in Detective Comics) - that's where he gets his name from. Over time, the term "manhunter" has taken on a different implication, and the character in these movies is clearly not a detective, so yeah, the meaning is lost and the name comes off more threatening than it should.
It felt very awkward when Wonder Woman answered Stepenwolf's "This one will be mine!" with an "I belong to no one". He obviously meant he'd fight her alone, without the aid of his minions, not that he would literally posses her. Does Wonder Woman, a thousands of years old demigod, have the same level of understanding other people's sentences as Drax?!
No, it was just girl empowerment bait that makes no sense in context. I know you know this, and I know your question is rhetorical, but I can't help explicating it.
Its most likely meant to be a double entendre. Hence the response. Look beyond the surface people. Its called thinking. Also true double entendre: 2 meanings. One obvious, the other sexually suggestive or offensive.
@@mrbiggles5389 You sound like a cult member. SC isn't flawless, and I say that as someone who likes it. (I haven't got time to watch this review though, I'll get back later)
@@jdrc1233 no, you kinda answered your own question. And if they were, they don’t have to be. Just because something IS, does not mean it always must be. One just has to be willing to go above the bar that’s been set so low. Instead we get directors that are content to wallow beneath the bar because all they have to do is jangle keys and bait future content, and they make bank. Fans should demand a higher caliber of content, and I don’t mean 4:3 and greyscaled with 2 extra hours of padding, slo-mo, and nonsensical payoffs. And yodeling. Christ he just showed the world what he thinks Kino is, and instead of laughing uncontrollably, they’re cooming uncontrollably. We get the movies we deserve, it seems.
"compensating by punching him like a ping pong ball into a wall splattering his brains in front of them all" Top ten rhymes eminem couldn't have topped
"Please, I have a family!" "Why does everyone keep telling me that?" That is unironicly a golden line. It makes it clear he doesn't care and it also gives the audience one of those dark chuckle moments. He might as well have said "Mate, I'm literally trying to terraform your planet to something completely inhospitible to your kind and I'm a giant fuckin' alien, Do you think I give even an 1/8 of a shit?"
That and the removal of Wonder Woman's cringe ''I belong to no one'' are in fact the only two things the Whedon version did better. It was a good line. A shame Snyder didn't keep it, but the dialogue he wrote was fine too.
The problem is it's said with what can easily be taken as genuine curiosity, and that just makes it a joke when Edgenwolf's character motivation is just pining for daddy's approval.
@@Nickle_King The "why does everyone keep telling me that" comes from Whedon's version, where Steppenwolf just wants the Mother Boxes for the power and universe domination it will grant him. It's Snyder's version that's pining for daddy's approval, but it's still a stupid joke since SnyderWolf instead says to having families "then you have weakness".
Think on this...humanities mother box hidden in a shallow hole was the last one to be found by Steppenwolf. Let that sink in. Humanities shallow ditch was literally the most successful choice.
TheRight Price lol that makes it pretty clear that the best way to hide that thing would have been for one person to take it somewhere and bury it. Or drop it inside the mariana trench somewhere and then not tell anyone. Or better yet, use a really old Atlantean to hide it, so when he dies off, there won't be anyone who can lead them to it.
Well I think it's because humanity's mother box (the one buried) was the only one who didn't called out to Steppenwolf.......and the other two did which is why Steppenwolf was able to find them and not the humanity's mother box buried.....ig
I remember that scene from 2017 and the original trailer. I never got the image out of my mind of Aquaman littering the ocean with a whiskey bottle. Zack Snyder is an idiot. True then. True now.
@@summertyme5748 you understand Aquaman fucking hates Atlantis in JL right? Why would he give a damn about littering? So because he can breathe underwater he has an obligation to be an environmentalist? Tf lmao Also, how does Aquaman get mad at litter in the Aquaman movie? That’s ORM, his crazy atlantean brother, not him.
@@patrikmiles9342 Absolutely correct. And he thinks too highly of his slo-mo visuals. They don’t work. He has never done anything with the visceral feel of say John Wick, or Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, or Mad Max Fury Road, or the Raid, or Inception, or.... I could go on. His slo violence is cartoony. It’s not real. You feel nothing.
I've heard tell that Zack has said, out loud even, that "If you believe Batman wouldn't use guns, you're living in a fantasy world". That, plus the Wonder Woman shown by Patty, and then Zack's version, just screams that Zack is playing with action figures.
"If you believe Batman wouldn't use guns, you're living in a fantasy world" ^ Superman breaks necks and commits genocide. Wonderwoman splatters brains all over the place. Batman is a drive bye shooter. Flash is a horndog. Aquaman smashes whiskey bottles and throws them into the Ocean. Myra shits the bed...oh wait, that one was *real* life. 🤣
Well...there have been versions of Batman that killed before. It's not unheard of. Hell, he actually killed in his earliest comics--I want to say he even kills the Joker the first time they meet, though don't quote me on that. That's not unacceptable. But his fucking attitude about it is; HE is as intolerant of a different view of Batman (the majority view by far) as critics are of his view, like a goddamn hypocrite.
@@BWMagus There's another problem; a problem of continuity. There is a name for an older Batman that uses guns and kills people, and that name is *Thomas* Wayne: a big part of the Flashpoint storyline was that, in the altered timeline, Bruce died while Thomas and Martha survived, causing Thomas to become a broken version of Batman. Snyder knew that the DCEU was going to have its first Flash movie be a Flashpoint adaptation, and yet, he still made his Bruce Wayne indistinguishable from Thomas Wayne. Sure enough, rather than try to use Thomas Wayne, the Flash movie, after a million rewrites and changes in director, is now just copying Into the Spiderverse/No Way Home by bringing back the Batman from Tim Burton's Batman movies.
The main thing I utterly despise about that line is the fact that....the DC Universe IS a fantasy world. It has aliens, gods, advanced tech, magic, demons, super heroes, fictional countries, etc. It is not OUR world, it is literally a fictional world with fantastical elements to it. I am not living in a fantasy world, BATMAN is. Zack is a fucking moron.
"We tried to keep the slow motion away from the dialogue as much as possible. But anything without dialogue was considered for slow motion." Dean Learner
Favorite Mauler recurring memes (add your own): 1.Luke drinking milk 2.Annoyed Tywin Lannister 3. Obi Wan pointing at plot points in galaxy chart 4. Ned Stark double facepalming 5. Confused Dillon eyes from Predator
“Instead she gives him the god killing super move” Honestly my favorite line in the whole video and one of the details that bugged me most about justice league. Not a big detail but big enough to become a problem.
They then cut away - to figure out a way to stop her from killing them. Also note: She moves faster than bullets - and Steppen Wolf needs to jump in the air Hulk style in order to keep up with horses and nimble ordinary Amazons who dodge his attacks..... So WW can put that Sword of hers right between his *eyes* before he can even blink. [FILM OVER]. She just - doesn't. Note: MCU has the same problem in No Way Home when Dr. Strange refused to end his fight with Spiderman in milliseconds, and again...in MOM where God Mode Wanda could END film before it begins and in fact there is no reason for the film to even happen. Comic book action is apparently hard. That's why I respect the best examples - including Endgame/Infinity War, so much.
Wonder Woman using her bracelets at the start of the movie was in reality her trying to hide the bloodstains on the wall so she can’t be taken to court
I interpreted it more like Hack Snyder metaphorically spitting in the face of Potty Jenkins movies, like a pugnacious eight-year-old ripping away his action figures from his little sister when she tries to use them to play tea party: "Nuh-uh! Wonder Woman wouldn't not kill the bad guys! She'd kill the fuck out of them! Because killing people LOOKS SO *FUCKING* *_COOOOOOOOOOOL!!!1!one"_*
Wonder Woman: r*ped a guy, wasn’t afraid to paint a room with blood of her enemies. Fangirls: “So inspiring. Qween!” John Walker: killed a “sURReNdErinG” super soldier terrorist who’s complicit to his best friend (an American soldier) death. Fangirls: “Rot in hell. Fuck you. You disrespect the holy shield!”
True, when I’m bored or when I want to draw I just pull up rant videos because they’re just so entertaining but the unribled series is top tier ranting ngl
Because this movie is sooooo shitty combined with all these morons around the world praising it. It’s infuriating; Mauler is my hero for explains why this “film” is so bad.
... holy fuck, this would at least make martian manhunter slightly better. wouldn't negate my overall issue with him, but this would have been a good and helpful step
@@ctown0738 Of course we know the behind the scenes truth - is that Snyder didn't want and never planed for the Martian to be in this film. He wanted the Green Lantern. lol DC films would *not* let him use them. They're smart - as it would just give Snyder more characters to destroy. As in - why did the Lantern Corps - the mighty space police - leave the mother boxes on earth to begin with, since the 'heroes from space' were a part of the original battle? I guess they also kinda forgot?
Teen titans Cyborg episode did the self hate better. In that he is frustrated because having a mechanical body means that his life of training, effort and self improvement is over. He is 90% mechanical. He will only be as smart as his processers allow. Only as strong as the motors in his body permit. The pay off if you are curious is that he manages to beat a better machine because his human side makes a small but important contribution to his strength at a key moment, allowing him to win a contest he previously failed when only relying on his mechanical parts.
The best reason that the story could possibly have for the motherboxes awakening was the same thing that happened in the Avengers, i.e. "Your experiments with the Tesseract is what drew Loki and his allies to it. It is a signal that the Earth is ready for a higher form of war." The act of saving Victor's life using one motherbox activates it and that's how the plot starts. But, Superman death scream. Smh.
Trying to turn the mother boxes into Infinity Stones is one of the things wrong with the film in the 1st place. MotherBoxes are devices that open boom tubes - which are portals. That means they are basically teleporters. They are not “way finder” mystery McGuffins that wake or sleep or fart or $hix as the plot needs. Chris Terrio who also botched Rise/Skywalker, another plot hole fest, just can’t write.
“Act of saving Victor’s life using one motherbox activates” ⬆️ Contradicting the excuse that Superman’s death scream awakens the boxes - meaning they already woke and for completely different reason. Also begging the question of why Steppenwolf is summoned to Atlantis if the box that Silas has and which *he spends the whole film trying to find* is what woke??? Suppose the boxes are on opposite ends of the galaxy instead of the planet. By your logic Steppenwolf is summoned to one side of the galaxy by a box on the other side, and then…here’s the kicker: *He still CAN’T FIND the box, that summoned him.* lol.
Having them wake up when the world is steeped in the fear of losing Superman makes sense too. Darkseid is a New God, the embodiment of EVIL itself. On top of that, he's a higher dimensional being that utilizes technology that's literally impossible. He could make grenades that produce anger instead of an explosion. He can kill you with a metaphor. He nearly destroyed reality by FALLING ON IT! His terraforming weapons (Why does he even HAVE terafforming weapons? Dude can play ping pong with planets, he's the size of a STAR) being activated by sufficient fear actually make sense. Them having a Clark Kent death yell wake function makes no fucking sense even for Darkseid who shot his son from the future while he was fighting his son in the past as his son killed him.
Anyone else think Cyborg looks like he should be on the box for a PC graphics card? He's got that Glossy CG look that they all use to sell their stuff.
@@DylLit PS4? Have you seen the games that have come out on PS4? Games like Horizon Zero Dawn and God of War look amazing on thats console despite its age.
@@gen.clint1014 Yes but like the original commenter said, he has a glossy look that’s something out of a video game (can’t say ps4 specifically since I’ve only played on it a few times).
@@sportsgamer8524 the games I’ve previously listed don’t have that glossy feel at all and most games on the ps4 that took full advantage of the hardware don’t look as they describe them,unless that was their specific goal.
One weird note, London doesn't have "blocks". Blocks makes sense in American cities that were built in a grid, but London was built over hundreds upon thousands of years with a messy road layout as a result. You ask ANYONE who drives around london, and they'll tell you it's not nice easy "blocks"
I guess they are trying to blow up the CITY of London the little area where the Queen and the banks are. Kinda like Tyler Durden in Fight Club....Cause that worked out great.
The "four city blocks" thing is extra irritating because the character saying it is BRITISH and we don't use the term "city blocks" and none of us know what the fuck it means. It's an entirely American definition. He would simply never use this terminology and it's clearly for the sake of the target (American) audience.
genuine question: what would the actual brit equivalent be? not a translation, just based on your own landscape and such -- how would the range be communicated?
@@AcidifiedMammoth I mean its still under works technically. Dunno when the next part will come lol. Until then we'll have to make do with the parts already released up until now
Doesn't matter League is light years better than the usual crap they're putting out. - let him be mad.... the main thing is Snyder and fans pushed back v increasingly biased and one party system of entertainment.
It has logical inconsistencies, especially where Darkseid is concerned, and yet it was good to its characters and way better than the derailment we got years ago. The emotional elation this film represents drowns out most of its (very present) sloppiness.
@@SuperOmnicronsj44 Same thing with Sonic. People said no, studio said okay we fix. And then the people had a _suprised pikachu_ face all the way to the theater, for multiple showings.
@@theunknowncommenter725 I’d give the Snyder cut a rewatch then (if you can make it through that 4 hour slog fest). There’s plenty stupid in the movie. Mauler even points out that all the scenes involving the amazons telling Wonder Woman what happened with Steppenwolf taking the boxes is overly pointless and drawn out. That alone was worthless and stupid.
@@richardlongd6244 How does that seem stupid, if they don't tell wonder woman what happened. How would she know. It's called nitpicking. And that's what most people do in snyder films
The sad part is without all this drama surrounding this production, I'd love to see a Whedon JL or Superman movie. The demands of a 2hr runtime and a set release date just sabotaged the movie. Also Whedon being a dbag, but still.
Because the some of the same people worked at Game of Thrones and the "kinda forgot" meme was created by the same corporate structure? They got infected by the amnesia-s8-virus perhaps?
why is the idea darksied loosing a planet that before that was nothing but grain of sand in a dessert during the middle of a war such and baffling idea to accept? like space is huge an constantly changing shape cause thing do not stay in one particular point in the map.
Alright Mauler, listen here. I enjoyed the Snyder cut when released and absent mindedly at that. You've made excellent points, objectively at that. I have no counterpoints and agree on most of your highlighting factors. Thank you for your efforts I hope these analyses make me a better writer and a better viewer of all content.
To be fair, I really don't think every film has to make 100% logical sense. Films have metaphors, allegories and themes that can't be fully expressed if it maintained exact continuity and logic. Especially in a fantasy sci-fi film like this, it's not meant to be taken literally. I'm sure there are sci-fi and fantasy films that take great lengths to maintain logic. continuity and realism in every instance, but I think it would be greatly limited by the amount of expression that could done by the artist.
@@TwistVisuals Who says metaphors, allegories and themes can't be fully expressed if it's maintained the exact continuity and logic? What is this mentality? You can and you should and every movie is made better for it.
We need to make him super OP, like all the other heroes. But - we need to make him lose control so the JL can have a fake fight with Superman. - Snyder No problem (sniffs cocaine) ok, now let me think..... - Terrio
lol. The stupidity of the film is boundless. Silas got microwaved instead of frigged because he wanted to warm the mother boxes up. 😂 Yeah - i’ma die for this! - Silas Reasoning? -> so the Jl *could find it.* - after he assumes they lose it. - which they will because he keeps it and never thinks to give it to them. Hello Mr. Scientist with a secret death wish? - Since the Unity they are creating means gathering the parademons into a gigantic *defensive energy dome* - then how hard would that be to find regardless of box heat? - Batman can detect heat from a box by satellite *inside the alien energy dome* which you can see from space - but he can’t figure out that this weird alien dome is where the boxes are at? - He sees’ the death dome from space -and analyzes it’s weakness in two seconds.... [cuz Death Star with a flaw must be done more times than Martha and her pearls] - but this couldn’t be done without Silas microwaving a box. A box that will be *inside* the dome, which you can see and analyze...from space? 😂 It’s like there is not a shred of common sense in Snyder or Terrio and they have likewise targeted the film at morons.
@That’s one smug wojak Well it doesn't make you smart. I think Snyder's Superman movies are like guilty pleasures for me like Superman 3 and Batman Forever they're not good films same with the resident evil movies they are good bad movies but if you think they are great movies in the League no pun intended as the greatest movies ever made aka masterpiece then you are a dumb person. It doesn't make you a bad person hey you might be really intelligent in other subjects like Mechanics, economics, engineering, playing bongos to Metallica songs etc etc but when it comes to movies or writing you aren't well versed. Hey I can't play musical instruments or know anything about structural engineering, Doctor Who or anime and I don't claim to or explain who the best Doctor is or best Anime series is as I'm ignorant of those things which is ok.
@@summertyme5748 You forgot something; the laser heats the mother box to a temperature of 3.5 million degrees kelvin. Do you have any idea how hot that is? According to google the surface of the Sun is 5,778 degrees Kelvin. And Steppenwolf just grabs it, but Superman's eye lasers cut off his horn.
Very similar to his reaction to TLOU2. Before he played it, he said he wasn't gonna make a video. Then he played it. As soon as he finished he said he was starting work on a video about it XD
The Snyder Cut reaffirms what I’ve believed about Zac Snyder since 300: he’s working in the wrong medium. He should be a comic book artist or writer (storyboarder, specifically). It seems pretty clear by now that he has a lot of trouble with moving mediums.
@@GigaChadh976 300 was a mid movie, but it was great at showing the tone of graphic novel. Watchmen was probably the best that could be done with adapting such a huge novel. And BvS sucked, but it was adapting 3 stories at once and written by Chris Terrio...
@@UFO_PILOT He pointed out the improvements, then procedures to dedicate all over the hundreds of new plot holes. This is in Mauler terms "it was better."
"But Martian Manhunter is a pacifist, that's why he didn't want to get involved!" Meanwhile, Martian Manhunter is a 50 year old US Army General. US Army Generals are famously known for their love of pacifism.
I'm pretty sure the reason he didn't get involved was because of fire. Every Synder fight has fire or the potential to cause fire and that sort of thing is intolerable to him.
@@dragonknightleader1 That's never stopped J'onn from physically or psychically helping out somewhere else. Think Wanda during Age Of Ultron. She helped clear out the city with her telepathic abilities.
@@mfundroid1116 Yes, in other DC media. In Synderverse, why else would he not help found the Justice League? The way he was set up in Man of Steel, he could have been the Nick Fury of the group. Instead, he just lets Supes fight Zod on his own and let WW, Bats, and Supes fight zombie Zod. And in this movie, talks to Lois instead of joining the team.
The reason j'onn doesn't show himself is exactly the reason PA Kent did''t want Clark to not show his power. And nobody know exactly what he is doing while the league is fighting. He might have been there.
Whedon essentially had to attempt to make a Frankensteins monster out of the pieces of Snyder’s scenes but there were multiples of some body parts and completely missing other ones
Its a bonafide HIT! Who cares about any bridled rage? what good does it do? Real you tubers are getting demonitezed EVERYWHERE over this type fandom ... what does it matter. JUSTICE REIGNS!!!!
I hope you’re not implying Joss’ version was better. That movie was absolutely horrific. If you’re saying neither was good, fair enough… but man the Joss version was extremely hard to watch. It was so shallow.
@@BabyDoIIx Better? Here and there. Sure as hell not as the entire product. But Joss tried to salvage something from absolute garbage. He did the best he could - now granted still that wasn't much but at least he tried. Compare that to Snyder which had the time, the input from fans and the money and still managed to release an insult of a movie.
@@BabyDoIIxJoss’s version was better by the simple virtue of being shorter. I’m absolutely baffled that anyone got through Snyder’s version without fast-forwarding or falling asleep, because the plot is basically identical - but FOUR HOURS LONG.
@@MmmmiloAs someone who watched the Snyder Cut with other people that jumped in an hour and a half in, falling asleep is simply a prerequisite for the uninitiated regarding capeshit. As for what I thought, it was certainly cooler, and I don’t absolutely hate the plot entirely (I guess I’m weird like that, but hey it’s not BvS!), however I have to agree with MauLer that the Josstice League got straight to the point while having Whedon’s own fluff to try and change the polarizing tone of the DCEU just three films in. The film can only be surgically altered for so long, however, and it’s an easy skip during a movie night, any night.
@@nont18411 The previous 2 movies (Justice League theatrical cut, Aquaman) were before we knew what she was. Back when everyone assumed the actors were just cleaning up Zack's footage from 2016-2017, her finishing that made sense. Scrap her from that and you should also scrap Ezra Miller (choked a pregnant fan in footage that hit twitter in 2020), and at thst point the Snyder Cut fails. It is frustrating that Heard and Miller seem to have mostly shot future (dream) material in the reshoots, where there was no need to keep those actors. But if the deal was that the studio was not going to interfere with Zack Snyder, then you get whatever he came up with, good and bad.
@@sStyleMo exactly. The worst movies are so bad every scene can have twice as much time used to rip on it than actually watching it. With such a discerning eye (and the help of a lengthier movie) this movie is taking less of a hit than others...even with the 2:18 time hahaha
Could you imagine if Alfred was actually plotting the whole time to allow the Justice League to die just so he could become Superman's butler and feel good about serving the best hero on the movie lol
@@mrbiggles5389 so I looked up this SDS you keep referring to. It turns out its real but it actually works in reverse, its the people spouting its existence that actually have it. Hating Snyder is a natural course of human existence but evangelising him is the true SDS. You might wanna get that checked out, it can't be healthy.
@@givmi_more_w9251 he tried but he failed cuz og cut was a 4hr slo mo sludge that makes no sense .flash running back in time ? Thats a superman 78 kinda bs 🤣
Obviously not because the final vision matters the most apparently. You can write the most inane garbage, as long it's your vision, apparently it exempts you from being criticized.
@@kylevernon There are medieval era raiders forgetting a continent, then there is a super advanced alien with a high tech army forgetting the location of a planet. I know it's not meant to be exactly comparable, but cmon.
@@rev0568 What is space but a vast endless ocean of darkness. If there’s any place to forget, its there. Also if your entire army got slaughtered too. Take one look at their ships, you see plumes of smoke. Smoke?!?!? Meaning they’re burning fossil fuels, which means that this advanced alien race isn’t necessarily that advanced, it’s just that they’re extremely brutal. Take any SuperMan story ever. Krypton colonized worlds, thousands of them. But for some reason they never explain why they gave up those colonies. Krypton was destroyed because they harvested its resources too much. I can easily point out that it’s nonsensical to continue to excavate your home plane to when you can literally terraform other planets and harvest their resources instead. Tbh, I think the dumber thing is why Zeus didn’t hide the world like he did with Diana’s island.
No need to stress yourself Mauler. If it means your health we can wait an extra few weeks or months for a video to come out. Reading your comment I can see why you never want to work like this again. Take it easy.
Somehow it never occured to me before watching this review, but how exactly are we supposed to think that Darkseid is powerful/threatening? He got his ass kicked by Ares, who got his ass kicked later by Wonder woman, who is basically canonically weaker than superman. So the 'big bad' of the DCEU is weaker than some villian that the not-even-strongest of the good guy team has already beaten 1on1. And its not like Darkseid is a lex-luthor-type villian, who might be weak but a threat through intellect and planning. Nope, he is just a normal-ass villian who gets outperformed by several of our heros individually, let alone combined. Great villian, im on the edge of my seat -.-.
He didn't get his ass kicked by Ares, he literally got setup in a combo attack by three others god's and before that he manhandles a Green Lantern. That is how we know that Darkseid is a threat, he just flatout manhandles one of the most powerful forces in the known universe. Why is everyone lying about how Darkseid only gets his ass kicked by Ares? I mean, did we not see Artemis distract him with her arrows and shoot like three of them into his chest? Did we not see Zeus distracting him with his lightning, preventing him from properly countering Ares' axe? Also, are we going to ignore that Wonder Woman killed a still weakened Ares? Saying that Darkseid has already lost this because Wonder Woman killed a weakened version of the god that handed him his ass during his prime seems like major coping in an effort to stroke the ego of someone who is just objectively wrong about everything of substance he says.
@@voiceofreason467 He didn't get setup in a combo attack at all. He gets BTFO-ed the first time Ares hits him. The Darkseid I know would never have been hurt by a mere god.
@@Atheismo9760 Okay, so you're telling me Artemis hitting with her arrows, Zeus distracting him with his lightning to set him up for a lethal strike from Ares didn't happen. That this combo attack from three god's did not happen. You're just lying to yourself or lying to me to cope. That or you don't know that a combo attack can take place from multiple different people working together with singular powerful attacks. Either way, your objection is stupid. Also, the Darkseid you know clearly doesn't exist because he gets into fights and gets hurt by other god's all the time. Also what is this mere god shit? You do know that Darkseid is a god, they just call themselves new as a designation of being born from the cataclysm that destroyed the old. There isn't anything really different about Darkseid from other gods. He needs prayer and faith to keep him in power, he lives in his own sphere of existence like the other god's, he can project an image of himself into other universes... he has all the characteristics that make him no different than any other deity in the DC multiverse. Either way, the character you're talking about is Uxes, not Darkseid. He didn't take up the mantle yet and hasn't consolidated his power as of that point. So him getting KO'd like this makes total sense anyways. The fact that you didn't identify that in the first place indicates you know jack and shit and nothing about Darkseid.
@@tylerleach8796 I guarantee that was Meme Repository's doing. Mauler don't know shit about the animated universe lol. As for the animated movie being better than the DCEU, yeah...until Apokolips war...
most of. But then they dropped basically all of that hard work and well thought out plan for a horribly written movie that explains the phrase “gore for shock vallue”. (The Apokolips movie. Absolute dogshit but looks cool)
I find it odd that many are demanding that this movie be canon and that it replace the theatrical release, but don't seem to realize that this movie would break the continuity of the movies that came after Justice League, both in the movie's future and past.
What even is the canon of dc supposed to be? I've seen every one I think is supposed to be canon except birds of prey and the second s squad and I have no fucking idea what's going on
The biggest one I can think of at the moment is the parts that have to do with Aquaman. Mera, in the Synder Cut, talks with a British accent, but an American one in Aquaman. It is revealed that the Atlantians have their own language underwater that come off in high pitch squeaks and shrieks. Yet, in Aquaman, they can speak normally in water as they do on land. I think they were trying to set up that Arthur couldn't communicate with the Atlantians because he never learned their ways, but it's torn down when they speak normally in the next film. It also mentions that King Orm was dealing with rebels against Atlantis, but in Aquaman, that doesn't begin until Orm starts "uniting" the other kingdoms of the sea. Just a few things I mentioned, but there is quite more within the movie that would have contradicted the other movies following Justice League, should WB decide to make this canon.
@@thefunnyhatter7390 the American Accent and British...well...uuuuhhhh....I give you that. But the Atlantians speaking that high pitch squeak noise in ZSJL and they are speaking English in Aquaman isn't a big deal at all. In ZSJK, we are hearing them speaking like that from our perspective and in Aquaman man, we're hearing them talk in their perspective. The King Orm dealing with rebels thing...I don't even know about that/noticed it.
dude every second she’s on screen or simply speaking is god awful. her narration over the battle flashback made my dick hurt... “A gOLdeN aGe oF HeRos!!”
He has said that he works on what he’s passionate about... That should tell you the scope of Snyder’s crimes against cinema. We need to bring back Nuremberg trials for his celluloid war crimes. Him and his Hollywood pals. With a plea bargain for Whedon.
And hey, hey, those TFA juggernauts take some time, the last one alone was twice the length of this, and a lot more broad than about a single (very long) movie and how it happens to fail at damn near everything. But yeah Absolute Damn Massive indeed.
@@grproteus the most i can say on the fly is that Seems is the apt word there. I'd disagree more elaborately but its been a while since I've rewatched them. I'll just say I do recall them being very enlightening on the problems of TFA early on, but becoming a broader retrospective on the Sequels and Disney SW as a whole while still using TFA as a springboard and chronologically covering the issues of that film in depth. Personal favorite may be still be his Soma work but the TFA work is very high quality iirc.
@@tuskinradar8688 "seem" is just me being "polite". I've seen them three times back to back, and they elaborate about the same thing over and over, with too many references in future movies. If I wanted an analysis of TLJ, I'd watch an analysis of TLJ.
Imagine ranting on a movie for what rivals it's bloated run time and still having it be more entertaining than the movie itself. Hats off to you mr Mauler.
That's not fair Mauler, "the same scene but with MovieBob" can beat any sort of argument! Even the entire The Shawshank Redemption can't hold against it.
Honestly Mauler you should be thanking Snyder. He made a movie that took longer to watch than it took you to critique, so now all of your points are suddenly valid.
the point i dont like is how he said darkside was close to death, he does know thats just a projection and weaker form of darkside and he had to fight like 8 gods and a green lantern vs a god and cannon fodder like how is this a fair fight
@@generalgrievous9831 Elaborate on projection. I'm not up to Darkseid lore, but i don't remember him using projections. If he's down to fight - he usually does it manually, and he's one of the strongest combatants in DC universe. Unless this is before he got his overpowered beams? And Mauler's point seems to have been that Darkseid - the most dangerous individual in DC universe - spends his first 5 minutes on screen getting his ass kicked. Even if this is a weaker version of him from the past - that does undermine his Big Bad status, so he's not a very impressive threat.
This will get lost in the comments, but I am currently laughing my ass off after the “where did you learn to edit? ON A FARM?” edit. Funniest joke I have heard in a while, and im so glad I have seen the EFAP’s that also meme that line. Thanks for giving a down dude a good laugh mate. Keep up the incredible effort and commitment to consistency!
@@grayski3324 I like Young Justice. It's just that it's so dense with lore, much of which if referential to the comics and nothing introduced on the show. Or, if it is introduced on the show, it'll be a small thing mentioned years ago. It's just a difficult show to follow closely.
In fairness, dumping one box in a deep deep hole would make sense. Of course, you should make a lead crypt for it or something, and make it damn damn deep, but it would be a neat thing to see an invading supervillain go "Why can't we find the third one? Humans! Tell me where have you put it for safeguarding?" and the reply is merely: "we have no fucking idea m8"
Some people argue that the reason Cyborg’s auto defense system shot at Superman is because of the vision he saw of that Knightmare timeline where Superman is evil. But if that’s the case, how come it never activated at any other point when he was with Superman. Or hell, why did it not activate with Darkseid when he showed up
Exactly. So much obvious plot-hoops set up for the characters to jump thru. True story is: *We want to show Superman fighting the rest of the Justice League to reassure his fans that he is 1 million times more powerful than everyone else….so make an excuse to start a fight, and have him punk the rest of the JL.* That’s why.
Not just why did it not activate at some other point as well, but why did it activate for such a short period of time? Why wasn't Cryborg forced to fight Superman until he got destroyed?
That was young darkseid(it's clearly seen in the design difference) without the Omega effect going against the atlanteans, all factions of men and 3 old gods. That was his weakness.
@@turkishman92gesundheit21 if only the film had explained that even a little bit. For the majority of people, they see shirtless Darkseid getting his ass kicked and lose any real dread.
@@debadityabhowmik6533 No it does not. Diana simply says that Darkseid invaded a long time ago and lost. There’s no explanation of him growing in power since then or obtaining the Omega Effect, the only thing any moviegoer notices is that his eyes are brighter and he now wears a shirt.
@@fayazhossain3821 ah yes, she did pay some consequences by first house arresting her than fully arrest her in a full security prison. Wonder Woman was seen as a hero that inspires a little girl because she ironically did what the Criminals came to do, to blow the building up. At least Whedon tries to censor it to make it looks like it was just a strong wind blast that knock the criminal out of the wall
2:13:17 "I've heard people say, unironically, that we at least get 'something', in reference to additional content for characters, plot or history. 'Something' is un-fuckin'-acceptable for an additional two fucking hours! Where the hell are your standards!?" Dude. This line cuts. Because it's a powerful counter to us silver lining folks who might push that perspective too far. Because I've said that exact thing before, albeit not about this nightmare of a film. It's something for all to chew on, but particularly those who tend towards optimism...or faux optimism to drum up hype, likes and views. We really need to remind ourselves that the standard? The average? It's not ZERO. XD
Pro tip: If you want good Justice League content, just go watch the Justice League animated series (and Justice League Unlimited, the follow up series)
How tf did Darkseid simply forget where the most important planet/location of his entire saga is? You left your s*** there, it has you're holy grail, and it's the only place you've ever gotten your ass kicked... And you forget.
It's also B$ that he has no way to find his mother boxes - but when they want to - they called Steppen Wolf 3000 years later. Imagine you lose a simple phone. You can't locate it via GPS, you can't call it. It's hopeless. Fine, then how can it turn around and call you? These are the most advanced teleportation [and everything else] systems in the universe. But you leave them somewhere, somehow forget, and too bad. Nothing can be done...until oh wait, now something can??? This is just a little kid writing a story, filled with "oops never thought about that ones."
Darkseid lost his status when he came back to Apokolips. There was a rebellion in which another God rose to power and ruled Apokolips for centuries. When Darkseid ultimately retrieved the throne, all his people who were with him during the first invasion on Earth have died. I speculated this based on Zack's comments and the line where Steppenwolf said I slaughtered everyone who tried to take your throne. Plus, it may seem that the first invasion happened in Themiscyra. That may have been the main reason why Zeus hid the island. Plus, the Greek Gods may have done something to fully conceal the Earth. I mean, how else are they gonna explain Doctor Fate's existence. You can treat this situation as the same to the role of the Ancient One on why Dormamu never tried to swallow the Earth. There are a lot of other explanations I can think of that can answer your question. The best thing to do is hope for a sequel.
Here's how I'd write it: They never came to Earth in the past, but perhaps - through some cosmic accident or something - they lost the Mother Boxes while conquering some other world(s), and have since then been searching the countless worlds for them in addition to the ALE.
I mean in a better way of explaining than Zack's excuse. Let's say Darkseid's avatar died, and since Darkseid's form in the main universe is a avatar of himself, a part of his consciousness sent out in a projected form. Since this avatar died, he lost all the memories of that avatar eith it, meaning any information about it was lost, especially since Parademons themselves aren't really able to convey start charts. EDIT: I'm going by one of the DC Comics portrayal of Darkseid is that his true form is in a whole other universe, and if he moves to this universe in his true form all of reality breaks. Also including the theory that this is a avatar of his will with a fraction of his power, his full power untapped in his avatars
Mauler took two hours to explain thoroughly how different and more cohesive the Joss cut of the movie is from Snyder's cut. Snyder took four hours to have Wonder Woman walk through a cave and have Steppenwolf have Skype calls throughout the film.
Diana in solo movies: "I only kill when necessary."
Diana in Justice League: *"BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD"*
Snyder is the blood God. His Superman and WonderWoman and Batman are all killers. They all respect and believe soely in their own Supremacy. They seem to actually have little patience or use for humanity. Much like ahem, a certain someone.
Diana kills people in her solo movies. Even when it's not necessary, like one time she kicks a german out of a window leading to him falling to his death.
@@terrydubuisson4209 That she has killed before isn’t the issue and you know it. She and Batman and Superman are all bloodthirsty in Snyder films because - that’s Snyder for you.
@@summertyme5748 how is Diana blood thirsty. For killing a couple terrorist, parademons and stepponwolf.
"For killing a couple terrorist"
She killed them when she didn't have to. She blew out the wall of the building and sent shrapnel into the crowd of police - when she didn't have to.
You realize that she is a fictional character and the point is actually that SNYDER loves gore violence and bloodshed.
He made his bones [pun intended] in Zombie movie remakes and went right back to it after Snyder Cut.
He is really more suited to gore horror than super heroes.
Does that answer your question?
"Remember Wonder Woman's theme, the thing they play when she's about to commit a war crime?" That's gold.
Unlike the theme itself. My god, I feel like I need a new pair of ears after listening to that
So liberating a German village is a war crime? It's not gold it's pretentious garbage....
@@dignerds Wonder Woman profile pic. You're totally impartial.
@@StratumPress you didn’t answer the question. How were her actions a war crime?
@@dignerds Tell me again why exactly she was killing German teenagers that didn't choose to be there? How exactly did that help her defeat Ares (aka the only guy who remembers Darkseid)?
Aquaman was there for two things: look badass, and talk to fish...and he's all out of fish.
I kinda laughed at the scene where Aquaman struggles to kill 3 parademons, in AIR. His entire thing is water, but he fights in the sky?.
Still, great movie tho
He's there to make all the ladies moist...and that's true equality. Moist. Wet. Dripping shirtless equality
i know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully- Bushfishm
@@darlagoddesshate Idk how he would make anyone wet, he's just a fucking parody here, I laughed everytime he was on screen, he shouted "my man !" ffs xDD
Aquaman, aghhaghhaaa!!!! fighter of the parademan, aghahaa!!!!!Champion of the Man bun.
Your a master of Guppies and friendship for everyone.
Steppenwolf: Why didn’t you go back to conquer Earth again, sire?
Darkseid: I forgor 💀
Why did the mother boxes go to sleep…again?
We are waiting for the plot to wake us up! - 📦 > What’s in the box!?
Hahahahahaha
For some reason, your typo in “forgot” makes your comment even funnier.
@@Mmmmiloit's a meme. Forgor is the cooler way to say forgot now. Boomer moment
@@Dhampire1976he must have forgor about that
"Remember Wonder Woman's theme? The thing they play when she's about to commit a war crime." That's is my favorite line in this whole thing.
@@christopherwitecki6649 That's a whole lot of weird tangents in one sentence just to defend a movie.
Exactly what war crime Mauler was he referring?
@@S3rp3nte did you miss WW 1?
@@jumpoff3967
Yeah, i didn't remember about her killing the sniper in the church.
Yeah I just got to the line and I've stopped for about 10 minutes now just listening to it and laughing
Wonder Woman: *gets screentime*
The soundtrack: YOOOHOOOOHOOOOOOOHOHOHOHOOOOOOOO
Don’t Yoo call me Hoo. 👩
1:18:11 for maximum viewing pleasure.
Can you imagine it playing while she sits on the crapper?
@@АняШакал I dont want to
My ears were bleeding
Darkseid accidentally cleared his browser history that's how he forgot about earth.
He has PTSD.
He was in Incognito mode when he came to earth and accidentally closed the tab.
Poor Darkseid he kinda forgot...
I turned 100 thousand worlds...to dust!
Muhahahahaha.
Don't ask me about the "world that fought back" , because.... I FOR-GOT!
Dammit!
Best excuse I heard so far.
Bruh joker being alive when batman is a killer is the biggest flaw in logic in the entirety kf the dceu
Exactly. This Batman tried to kill Superman but let’s the joker threaten to bumfkx him. 😌 Only Snyder….
Indeed. The first question any writer trying to write a Batman that's willing to kill should ask is, "Why wasn't The Joker his first victim?" In The Flashpoint Paradox, this was handled pretty much perfectly: Batman's willing to kill because Batman is Thomas Wayne, not Bruce, and he doesn't kill The Joker because The Joker is Martha Wayne.
Wow! Just.... wow.... And here I was *_Questioning my frigging sanity_* wondering if I was the only one to agree with Batman: Under the Red Hood implying Joker's death is the *_ONLY SENSIBLE WAY_* to end his mayhem!!!
I think this makes it better. Even a Batman that kills can't permanently beat the Joker. The Joker preys on Batman's weaknesses. If he doesn't want to kill Joker tries to force his hand, if he does want to kill, Joker just trolls him and makes sure he has leverage or an escape plan. Knowing that he's just annoying Batman of even more which is why Joker does what he does.
Seriously, the only practical way for that to happen, is for Joker to be at least equally as good in hand to hand combat and damn near completely unreachable from a distance.
I love that you addressed Amber Heard as "asshole"
Thats just *chefs kiss*
I laughed! :D
And psychopath 😂😂😂
Is she the one who SHAT ON JOHNNY DEPPS BEEEEED?
@@Poppenheimer69 Ambers Turd
@@Poppenheimer69 wait what? I heard about the abuse but that?!
Fun fact, Episode 1 of Smallville introduces teenage superman with him drinking from a bottle of milk, to which his mother tells him to use a glass, asking where he learned his manners, to which he replies... "On a farm."
I REMEMBER THAT!!! I can’t believe I didn’t make that connection until now
Cool.
Where did you watch Smallville?? On a FARM?!
@@onnixcarmichele3911 i need to rewatch this !
A much better Superman.
But at least Gal didn't start signing 'Imagine' so that's a plus!
There should be a lot more upvotes on this comment so many more upvotes
Oof. That was a big yikes.
KAL EL NO
Is called "Justice League", not the "Virtue Signal League".
There’s no heaven when everybody’s grandma dying
The reason J'onn J'onzz is called Martian Manhunter is because at the time the character first appeared, the word "manhunter" meant "someone who hunts criminals". Martian Manhunter is supposed to be a detective (he first appeared in Detective Comics) - that's where he gets his name from. Over time, the term "manhunter" has taken on a different implication, and the character in these movies is clearly not a detective, so yeah, the meaning is lost and the name comes off more threatening than it should.
Dog: The Manhunter
Or, *Martian: Bounty Hunter*
I didn't know that! I literally thought he killed humans... like he was a villain turned good, kinda like Picolo. Cool!
This is funny since in Latam he is indeed know as "Detective Marciano" which is just "Martian Detective"
Is that why why he is just called J'onn in the Justice League cartoon?
@@schwarzerritter5724J’onn is his actual name
It felt very awkward when Wonder Woman answered Stepenwolf's "This one will be mine!" with an "I belong to no one". He obviously meant he'd fight her alone, without the aid of his minions, not that he would literally posses her. Does Wonder Woman, a thousands of years old demigod, have the same level of understanding other people's sentences as Drax?!
LOVE THIS
XD
I mean, she had sex with a guy who got possessed by her dead hubby so she’s kinda into the possession thing.
@@nont18411 I hate how you made more sense. God I wish they hit that reset button with a headbutt.
No, it was just girl empowerment bait that makes no sense in context. I know you know this, and I know your question is rhetorical, but I can't help explicating it.
Its most likely meant to be a double entendre. Hence the response. Look beyond the surface people. Its called thinking.
Also true double entendre: 2 meanings. One obvious, the other sexually suggestive or offensive.
"Lost a planet Senpai Darkseid has. How embarrassing."
- Master Yoda
@@mrbiggles5389 You sound like a cult member. SC isn't flawless, and I say that as someone who likes it. (I haven't got time to watch this review though, I'll get back later)
@@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom have fun! ZSJL is a mess.
@@mrbiggles5389 yes go sub to cinema wins. He’s about your speed.
@@Party_Almsivi aren’t all superhero movies a mess? I mean with some few exceptions of course
@@jdrc1233 no, you kinda answered your own question. And if they were, they don’t have to be. Just because something IS, does not mean it always must be. One just has to be willing to go above the bar that’s been set so low.
Instead we get directors that are content to wallow beneath the bar because all they have to do is jangle keys and bait future content, and they make bank.
Fans should demand a higher caliber of content, and I don’t mean 4:3 and greyscaled with 2 extra hours of padding, slo-mo, and nonsensical payoffs. And yodeling.
Christ he just showed the world what he thinks Kino is, and instead of laughing uncontrollably, they’re cooming uncontrollably.
We get the movies we deserve, it seems.
"compensating by punching him like a ping pong ball into a wall splattering his brains in front of them all"
Top ten rhymes eminem couldn't have topped
I read this and heard real slim shady beat in my head
I tried playing him singing those lyrics to the instrumental track of *_Without Me_* in my head. Damn nigh succeeded too.
So did two directors make different versions of the same movie?
"Please, I have a family!"
"Why does everyone keep telling me that?"
That is unironicly a golden line. It makes it clear he doesn't care and it also gives the audience one of those dark chuckle moments. He might as well have said "Mate, I'm literally trying to terraform your planet to something completely inhospitible to your kind and I'm a giant fuckin' alien, Do you think I give even an 1/8 of a shit?"
That and the removal of Wonder Woman's cringe ''I belong to no one'' are in fact the only two things the Whedon version did better. It was a good line. A shame Snyder didn't keep it, but the dialogue he wrote was fine too.
Starter, can I fund you to write a subtitle file for this?
XD
The problem is it's said with what can easily be taken as genuine curiosity, and that just makes it a joke when Edgenwolf's character motivation is just pining for daddy's approval.
@@Nickle_King The "why does everyone keep telling me that" comes from Whedon's version, where Steppenwolf just wants the Mother Boxes for the power and universe domination it will grant him. It's Snyder's version that's pining for daddy's approval, but it's still a stupid joke since SnyderWolf instead says to having families "then you have weakness".
@@insulttothehumanrace3807 Either way, it's a weak line.
Think on this...humanities mother box hidden in a shallow hole was the last one to be found by Steppenwolf. Let that sink in. Humanities shallow ditch was literally the most successful choice.
TheRight Price lol that makes it pretty clear that the best way to hide that thing would have been for one person to take it somewhere and bury it. Or drop it inside the mariana trench somewhere and then not tell anyone. Or better yet, use a really old Atlantean to hide it, so when he dies off, there won't be anyone who can lead them to it.
I really wish they would have tied that motherbox in to Oak Island. Would have been kind of dope
Yup I hated the fact they had the first two boxes sitting on top in clear site
Well I think it's because humanity's mother box (the one buried) was the only one who didn't called out to Steppenwolf.......and the other two did which is why Steppenwolf was able to find them and not the humanity's mother box buried.....ig
@@beehive3756 soooo...why did only 2 out of 3 call out? Did the human box just not feel like calling to Steppenwolf?
I like how Aquaman was mad at litter in the ocean in his own movie, then In his solo scene, immediately litters in the ocean!
I remember that scene from 2017 and the original trailer. I never got the image out of my mind of Aquaman littering the ocean with a whiskey bottle. Zack Snyder is an idiot. True then. True now.
@@summertyme5748 you understand Aquaman fucking hates Atlantis in JL right? Why would he give a damn about littering? So because he can breathe underwater he has an obligation to be an environmentalist? Tf lmao
Also, how does Aquaman get mad at litter in the Aquaman movie? That’s ORM, his crazy atlantean brother, not him.
Yeah but Zack Snider wasn't thinking about logic or continuity the only thing that matters in his head are the visuals
@@patrikmiles9342 Absolutely correct.
And he thinks too highly of his slo-mo visuals. They don’t work. He has never done anything with the visceral feel of say John Wick, or Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, or Mad Max Fury Road, or the Raid, or Inception, or.... I could go on. His slo violence is cartoony. It’s not real. You feel nothing.
How many shirts and bottles does he go through every time he submerges
A MauLer video that's actually shorter than the movie? Oh boy
Maybe Mauler should have added more slow mo
"You shall know the end times, from when the LongMan becomes short"
that's how it starts. the feeling of rage, or powerlessness, that turns long men short.
It's shorter than the movie, therefore it's finally legitimate!
It’s shorter than the movie and yet I can’t get past 5 minutes of nonstop blabbing trying to convince people his point “makes sense”
I've heard tell that Zack has said, out loud even, that "If you believe Batman wouldn't use guns, you're living in a fantasy world". That, plus the Wonder Woman shown by Patty, and then Zack's version, just screams that Zack is playing with action figures.
"If you believe Batman wouldn't use guns, you're living in a fantasy world"
^ Superman breaks necks and commits genocide. Wonderwoman splatters brains all over the place. Batman is a drive bye shooter. Flash is a horndog. Aquaman smashes whiskey bottles and throws them into the Ocean. Myra shits the bed...oh wait, that one was *real* life. 🤣
He also said that Batman would get raped in the prison. How DC think this is the man to lead the DCEU i dont know? Zacky obviously hates superhero.
Well...there have been versions of Batman that killed before. It's not unheard of. Hell, he actually killed in his earliest comics--I want to say he even kills the Joker the first time they meet, though don't quote me on that. That's not unacceptable. But his fucking attitude about it is; HE is as intolerant of a different view of Batman (the majority view by far) as critics are of his view, like a goddamn hypocrite.
@@BWMagus There's another problem; a problem of continuity. There is a name for an older Batman that uses guns and kills people, and that name is *Thomas* Wayne: a big part of the Flashpoint storyline was that, in the altered timeline, Bruce died while Thomas and Martha survived, causing Thomas to become a broken version of Batman. Snyder knew that the DCEU was going to have its first Flash movie be a Flashpoint adaptation, and yet, he still made his Bruce Wayne indistinguishable from Thomas Wayne.
Sure enough, rather than try to use Thomas Wayne, the Flash movie, after a million rewrites and changes in director, is now just copying Into the Spiderverse/No Way Home by bringing back the Batman from Tim Burton's Batman movies.
The main thing I utterly despise about that line is the fact that....the DC Universe IS a fantasy world. It has aliens, gods, advanced tech, magic, demons, super heroes, fictional countries, etc. It is not OUR world, it is literally a fictional world with fantastical elements to it. I am not living in a fantasy world, BATMAN is. Zack is a fucking moron.
Wonder Woman: "You are who you choose to be."
"Superman." -The Iron Giant
Iron giant is more superman then Snyder's superman. That says a lot
@@mattyt3625 To be fair, Brad Bird, unlike Zack Snyder, is actually a good filmmaker
@@MrGeorgeFlorcus your not wrong. May you be protected from the wrath of the cult for your heresy
@@mattyt3625 I just want to know where the sudden wave of "Snyder good" came from. I remember people ragging on Man of Steel just a few years ago
@@patchmoulton5438 probably coz the standards of movies has gone down significantly over the past few years?
"We tried to keep the slow motion away from the dialogue as much as possible. But anything without dialogue was considered for slow motion." Dean Learner
My man.
"The Flash ran the only way he knew how: by placing one leg in front of the other in quick succession."
"Can't believe Superman's dead..."
"It's alright, Dag; we'll get a new one."
Favorite Mauler recurring memes (add your own):
1.Luke drinking milk
2.Annoyed Tywin Lannister
3. Obi Wan pointing at plot points in galaxy chart
4. Ned Stark double facepalming
5. Confused Dillon eyes from Predator
I like Dani's Renée Zellweger impression too.
Its not a recurring one, but I really hope the zod line "in a farm!?" becomes one, shit had me dying
You forgot Tony stark rolling his eyes
Jameson laughing at peter parker cracks me up everytime
I hoped F'ing based Alfred is a recurring one
Classic Mauler with 45 minutes remaining on the video: "lets summarise"
I swear that a new Mauler video is rarer than a total eclipse. They are both equally as beautiful.
But is it as beautiful as a Total Eclipse of the Heart?
Mauler couldnt hold a flame to an eclipse, dumbsht
@@OnlyGoodSHHH cope Snyder fan cope he makes terrible movies I'm sorry
As one who has seen both, yes, I can agree.
Equally beautiful, dark, and soul crushing...
Ready to have my subjectives objectived, my feelings destroyed, my Christmas ruined, and my art killed.
You forgot getting your floomples dangused
"my Christmas ruined" jajajajajaja
Good thing rags isn't here, or you could add grandma to your list.
@@jonsimpson6240 he's in the comments now I'm scared
But was your grandma ruined?
The day has come where the movie itself is longer than the mauler review.
This isn't the review, this is a rampage.
I mean I’m sure he could do a special mauler cut that is 5 hours long 😂
This isn't a review yet, just first reaction after watching :D
Just wait until he releases 9 hour long Mauler Cut
@@toatakanuva4846 Will this cut has an hour of slow-mo speaking and repeating same words twice and more?
“Instead she gives him the god killing super move”
Honestly my favorite line in the whole video and one of the details that bugged me most about justice league. Not a big detail but big enough to become a problem.
They then cut away - to figure out a way to stop her from killing them.
Also note: She moves faster than bullets - and Steppen Wolf needs to jump in the air Hulk style in order to keep up with horses and nimble ordinary Amazons who dodge his attacks..... So WW can put that Sword of hers right between his *eyes* before he can even blink. [FILM OVER].
She just - doesn't.
Note: MCU has the same problem in No Way Home when Dr. Strange refused to end his fight with Spiderman in milliseconds, and again...in MOM where God Mode Wanda could END film before it begins and in fact there is no reason for the film to even happen.
Comic book action is apparently hard.
That's why I respect the best examples - including Endgame/Infinity War, so much.
13:17
Even crazier is when you consider that Superman handily beat Wonder Woman and the entire JL, but somehow didn't just paste Edgenwolf instantly.
Wonder Woman using her bracelets at the start of the movie was in reality her trying to hide the bloodstains on the wall so she can’t be taken to court
Although that would probably happen anyways for property damage
@@ItsLynch1 My God, that is the best explanation for anything done by any of the characters in this stupid movie. 😂
I laughed way too hard at this.
I interpreted it more like Hack Snyder metaphorically spitting in the face of Potty Jenkins movies, like a pugnacious eight-year-old ripping away his action figures from his little sister when she tries to use them to play tea party: "Nuh-uh! Wonder Woman wouldn't not kill the bad guys! She'd kill the fuck out of them! Because killing people LOOKS SO *FUCKING* *_COOOOOOOOOOOL!!!1!one"_*
Wonder Woman: r*ped a guy, wasn’t afraid to paint a room with blood of her enemies.
Fangirls: “So inspiring. Qween!”
John Walker: killed a “sURReNdErinG” super soldier terrorist who’s complicit to his best friend (an American soldier) death.
Fangirls: “Rot in hell. Fuck you. You disrespect the holy shield!”
"I thought you were good at causing pain"
Damn, that is some pure, unadulterated savagery right there, especially when you focused in on Heard.
I really love how calm Mauler's voice was when he started, but the further you get in the video, the more irritated he becomes.
Its a hallmark of the unbridled series, and its really entertaining to watch, lol.
True, when I’m bored or when I want to draw I just pull up rant videos because they’re just so entertaining but the unribled series is top tier ranting ngl
Indeed. Must have been a pain to make the script progressively more and more angry. Ii is real easy to slip up when doing something like this.
His shtichk about hating everything is getting tiresome.
Because this movie is sooooo shitty combined with all these morons around the world praising it. It’s infuriating; Mauler is my hero for explains why this “film” is so bad.
*Yoda to Darkseid:* _Lost a planet have we? How…embarrassing!_
😂
Yoda: Hmmm. Ready you are not, for world domination.
*_Yoda to Zack Snyder:_* To write about these DC Heroes, mature enough.... You are not
Why didn't Martian manhunter turn into Lois Lane to calm down Superman.
lol. Fan service strikes again.
... holy fuck, this would at least make martian manhunter slightly better. wouldn't negate my overall issue with him, but this would have been a good and helpful step
Fr
Better question, why didn't he do anything during BvS and MoS.
@@ctown0738 Of course we know the behind the scenes truth - is that Snyder didn't want and never planed for the Martian to be in this film.
He wanted the Green Lantern. lol
DC films would *not* let him use them.
They're smart - as it would just give Snyder more characters to destroy.
As in - why did the Lantern Corps - the mighty space police - leave the mother boxes on earth to begin with, since the 'heroes from space' were a part of the original battle?
I guess they also kinda forgot?
I absolutely adore that you're still using the Luke drinking green milk "What the fuck??" as a running video meme :)
I miss the Dark Souls 2 fart noise. :S
@@harry426 One like, equals one prayer... for Dragonrider.
*fart noise as Dragonrider falls to death once again*
Is one of the few memes that makes sense of this film.
It’s a classic meme, one of the few good things Roundhead actually gave us with TLJ.
@@sauro8299
Dragonrider: being the most relatable Dark Souls boss via his tendency to get rekt by gravity since 2014.
Teen titans Cyborg episode did the self hate better. In that he is frustrated because having a mechanical body means that his life of training, effort and self improvement is over. He is 90% mechanical. He will only be as smart as his processers allow. Only as strong as the motors in his body permit.
The pay off if you are curious is that he manages to beat a better machine because his human side makes a small but important contribution to his strength at a key moment, allowing him to win a contest he previously failed when only relying on his mechanical parts.
That sounds fuckin great man
Never paid attention to that when I was a kid. That's great!
@@sebastianhaney1425 Yeah, its pretty straight forward, but everything works and the dialogue supports that they are trying to do.
No no no fake dc fan. Snyder's character is better. It's more deep and complex
Wow
The best reason that the story could possibly have for the motherboxes awakening was the same thing that happened in the Avengers, i.e. "Your experiments with the Tesseract is what drew Loki and his allies to it. It is a signal that the Earth is ready for a higher form of war." The act of saving Victor's life using one motherbox activates it and that's how the plot starts. But, Superman death scream. Smh.
Trying to turn the mother boxes into Infinity Stones is one of the things wrong with the film in the 1st place.
MotherBoxes are devices that open boom tubes - which are portals. That means they are basically teleporters.
They are not “way finder” mystery McGuffins that wake or sleep or fart or $hix as the plot needs.
Chris Terrio who also botched Rise/Skywalker, another plot hole fest, just can’t write.
“Act of saving Victor’s life using one motherbox activates”
⬆️ Contradicting the excuse that Superman’s death scream awakens the boxes - meaning they already woke and for completely different reason.
Also begging the question of why Steppenwolf is summoned to Atlantis if the box that Silas has and which *he spends the whole film trying to find* is what woke???
Suppose the boxes are on opposite ends of the galaxy instead of the planet. By your logic Steppenwolf is summoned to one side of the galaxy by a box on the other side, and then…here’s the kicker: *He still CAN’T FIND the box, that summoned him.* lol.
A scream that wasn’t even in the previous Superman movie to begin with smh.
Having them wake up when the world is steeped in the fear of losing Superman makes sense too.
Darkseid is a New God, the embodiment of EVIL itself. On top of that, he's a higher dimensional being that utilizes technology that's literally impossible. He could make grenades that produce anger instead of an explosion. He can kill you with a metaphor. He nearly destroyed reality by FALLING ON IT!
His terraforming weapons (Why does he even HAVE terafforming weapons? Dude can play ping pong with planets, he's the size of a STAR) being activated by sufficient fear actually make sense. Them having a Clark Kent death yell wake function makes no fucking sense even for Darkseid who shot his son from the future while he was fighting his son in the past as his son killed him.
@@kingexplosionmurder3764that would be BvS, and yes, it was.
1:56:03
*_"PLEASE...stop...b e i n g."_*
I love how that's the most restrained way of saying "d i e".
Anyone else think Cyborg looks like he should be on the box for a PC graphics card? He's got that Glossy CG look that they all use to sell their stuff.
No
@@DylLit PS4? Have you seen the games that have come out on PS4? Games like Horizon Zero Dawn and God of War look amazing on thats console despite its age.
Really wish they had redone him for this version.
@@gen.clint1014 Yes but like the original commenter said, he has a glossy look that’s something out of a video game (can’t say ps4 specifically since I’ve only played on it a few times).
@@sportsgamer8524 the games I’ve previously listed don’t have that glossy feel at all and most games on the ps4 that took full advantage of the hardware don’t look as they describe them,unless that was their specific goal.
One weird note, London doesn't have "blocks". Blocks makes sense in American cities that were built in a grid, but London was built over hundreds upon thousands of years with a messy road layout as a result. You ask ANYONE who drives around london, and they'll tell you it's not nice easy "blocks"
Lies, everywhere in the west is exactly like America :^)
Eh, east coast of the USA is pretty messy, not very gridlike. Blocks is a general term which can be used anywhere
I guess they are trying to blow up the CITY of London the little area where the Queen and the banks are. Kinda like Tyler Durden in Fight Club....Cause that worked out great.
Does this actually matter in the grand scheme of the story? Because if not it doesn't affect the quality
Real question, what would be the british analog of a city block?
The "four city blocks" thing is extra irritating because the character saying it is BRITISH and we don't use the term "city blocks" and none of us know what the fuck it means. It's an entirely American definition. He would simply never use this terminology and it's clearly for the sake of the target (American) audience.
Four city round-abouts then.
@@Atheismo9760 unironically still better
@Retro Chad and edgier. It's equally as cringe, just a different kind of cringe.
genuine question: what would the actual brit equivalent be? not a translation, just based on your own landscape and such -- how would the range be communicated?
@@mophead_xu Our streets aren't organised in neat blocks so he would've used miles or something location specific.
My favorite part of the Snyder cut is that it finally prompted MauLer to do a new movie review.
You might not of know, but Mauler is also working on a review for The Boys (Season 2) ;)
@@oli50382 And TLoU2. And Game of thrones final episode. And The Force Awakens lol
@@sammydray5919 is he planning to release force awakens video? I have been wondering and waiting for ages!
@@AcidifiedMammoth I mean its still under works technically. Dunno when the next part will come lol. Until then we'll have to make do with the parts already released up until now
@@sammydray5919 oh sure, i must've watched last jedi critics for about a dozen time.
The extended Wonder Woman yodel montage had me in tears from laughter. 😂
And the fact it goes on for 2 fucking minutes, god it's full fucking song of UggggAaaUuuggggAaaa
Ethnic Wailing Bitch (The Acapella Remix)
@@SkaterBlades its epic
that was absolutely brilliant
1:18:11
I prefer starting with the War Crime Anthem, myself
XD
Most people: I was pleasantly surprised
Mauler: rip and tear
People on the internet, "Snyder Cut is incredible".
Mauler, "And I took that personally".
Doesn't matter League is light years better than the usual crap they're putting out. - let him be mad.... the main thing is Snyder and fans pushed back v increasingly biased and one party system of entertainment.
It has logical inconsistencies, especially where Darkseid is concerned, and yet it was good to its characters and way better than the derailment we got years ago. The emotional elation this film represents drowns out most of its (very present) sloppiness.
@@SuperOmnicronsj44 Same thing with Sonic. People said no, studio said okay we fix. And then the people had a _suprised pikachu_ face all the way to the theater, for multiple showings.
Its mediocre at best.... Not good or bad
I love it when Mauler shows something stupid from the movie and says “Mmmm Snyder’s vision”.
There was nothing stupid in this movie.
@@theunknowncommenter725 I’d give the Snyder cut a rewatch then (if you can make it through that 4 hour slog fest). There’s plenty stupid in the movie. Mauler even points out that all the scenes involving the amazons telling Wonder Woman what happened with Steppenwolf taking the boxes is overly pointless and drawn out. That alone was worthless and stupid.
I like the pretzel version too
@@richardlongd6244 How does that seem stupid, if they don't tell wonder woman what happened. How would she know. It's called nitpicking. And that's what most people do in snyder films
@@josephman1488 yeah they do it a tons of nitpicking with his films.
Joss has a self-insert in this movie.
It's the hobo with "I TRIED" sign.
Seeing the trainwreck this movie is starting to look like, I wouldn't be surprised if it was true
The sad part is without all this drama surrounding this production, I'd love to see a Whedon JL or Superman movie.
The demands of a 2hr runtime and a set release date just sabotaged the movie. Also Whedon being a dbag, but still.
@@travisspazz1624 why is wheadon a Dbag? Did I miss something?
Fuck Whedon
@@TheFlame234 Apparently he's a creeper. Therefore, canceled.
I lost it "why is amnesia an epidemic in this universe"
Also, no one can drive apparently.
Yeah, what is this? A cheap soap opera? Then again, the death rate is about the same.
Because the some of the same people worked at Game of Thrones and the "kinda forgot" meme was created by the same corporate structure? They got infected by the amnesia-s8-virus perhaps?
why is the idea darksied loosing a planet that before that was nothing but grain of sand in a dessert during the middle of a war such and baffling idea to accept? like space is huge an constantly changing shape cause thing do not stay in one particular point in the map.
@@PK-MegaLolCaT
Because he never loses. This the first place he loses a fight.
Annnnnd he forgets it?
Sure, Derkseid forgets his first defeat.
This video is shorter than the media you're talking about? MauLer is slippin 😉
Nah its just part 1 of 4
In a sick twist of fate, this means he's wrong about the movie, BUT If you watch this in 0.25, not only he's right but the video is 4x better.
@@walop Are you implying we need to Slonald MauLer?
Lmfao well played
@@TheSlammurai it's not my place to say this, I think we need to let the fans decide
Alright Mauler, listen here. I enjoyed the Snyder cut when released and absent mindedly at that. You've made excellent points, objectively at that. I have no counterpoints and agree on most of your highlighting factors. Thank you for your efforts I hope these analyses make me a better writer and a better viewer of all content.
To be fair, I really don't think every film has to make 100% logical sense. Films have metaphors, allegories and themes that can't be fully expressed if it maintained exact continuity and logic. Especially in a fantasy sci-fi film like this, it's not meant to be taken literally. I'm sure there are sci-fi and fantasy films that take great lengths to maintain logic. continuity and realism in every instance, but I think it would be greatly limited by the amount of expression that could done by the artist.
@@TwistVisuals Who says metaphors, allegories and themes can't be fully expressed if it's maintained the exact continuity and logic? What is this mentality? You can and you should and every movie is made better for it.
Whenever Wonder Woman's theme was playing, I was expecting the Witcher to drop by.
lol
Well a few times he did
Her music is one of the only places I think the other movie did better.
They REALLY overused that theme, it got really annoying.
@@SLAD3 Geralt even helped save the world for now.
I like how Cyborg can control all machinery...except for his own body lol
We need to make him super OP, like all the other heroes.
But - we need to make him lose control so the JL can have a fake fight with Superman.
- Snyder
No problem (sniffs cocaine) ok, now let me think.....
- Terrio
Or the laser that killed his dad.
lol. The stupidity of the film is boundless.
Silas got microwaved instead of frigged because he wanted to warm the mother boxes up. 😂
Yeah - i’ma die for this! - Silas
Reasoning? -> so the Jl *could find it.*
- after he assumes they lose it.
- which they will because he keeps it and never thinks to give it to them. Hello Mr. Scientist with a secret death wish?
- Since the Unity they are creating means gathering the parademons into a gigantic *defensive energy dome* - then how hard would that be to find regardless of box heat?
- Batman can detect heat from a box by satellite *inside the alien energy dome* which you can see from space - but he can’t figure out that this weird alien dome is where the boxes are at?
- He sees’ the death dome from space -and analyzes it’s weakness in two seconds.... [cuz Death Star with a flaw must be done more times than Martha and her pearls]
- but this couldn’t be done without Silas microwaving a box. A box that will be *inside* the dome, which you can see and analyze...from space? 😂
It’s like there is not a shred of common sense in Snyder or Terrio and they have likewise targeted the film at morons.
@That’s one smug wojak Well it doesn't make you smart. I think Snyder's Superman movies are like guilty pleasures for me like Superman 3 and Batman Forever they're not good films same with the resident evil movies they are good bad movies but if you think they are great movies in the League no pun intended as the greatest movies ever made aka masterpiece then you are a dumb person. It doesn't make you a bad person hey you might be really intelligent in other subjects like Mechanics, economics, engineering, playing bongos to Metallica songs etc etc but when it comes to movies or writing you aren't well versed. Hey I can't play musical instruments or know anything about structural engineering, Doctor Who or anime and I don't claim to or explain who the best Doctor is or best Anime series is as I'm ignorant of those things which is ok.
@@summertyme5748 You forgot something; the laser heats the mother box to a temperature of 3.5 million degrees kelvin. Do you have any idea how hot that is? According to google the surface of the Sun is 5,778 degrees Kelvin. And Steppenwolf just grabs it, but Superman's eye lasers cut off his horn.
Pre-Synder Cut Mauler: "[Snyder]'s more of a clown to me, I don’t hate him."
Post-Snyder Cut Mauler: R A M P A G E
RIP AND TEAR UNTIL IT IS FINISHED
Very similar to his reaction to TLOU2. Before he played it, he said he wasn't gonna make a video.
Then he played it. As soon as he finished he said he was starting work on a video about it XD
@@jadeatrophis TLOU2 had more to talk about due to sucking more, he did this video cause it was easy to do and fun for him
Mauler calling anyone a clown ...
Palpatine: Ironic.
@@examiningkubrickphilosofia1530 it's treason, then...
The Snyder Cut reaffirms what I’ve believed about Zac Snyder since 300: he’s working in the wrong medium. He should be a comic book artist or writer (storyboarder, specifically). It seems pretty clear by now that he has a lot of trouble with moving mediums.
Not at all - they just need to move....sloooowly.
He's a terrible storyteller. He should never work in comics. Maybe sewage maintenance.
He is great at adapting already written stories on screen.
@@Сайтамен
No he’s not great at that. 300 was mid, watchmen was mid, and BVS sucked
@@GigaChadh976 300 was a mid movie, but it was great at showing the tone of graphic novel. Watchmen was probably the best that could be done with adapting such a huge novel. And BvS sucked, but it was adapting 3 stories at once and written by Chris Terrio...
"I thought you were good at causing pain"
That Amber Heard dig was legendary.
MauLer - Structures his arguments around Josstice League being better than the Snyder Cut
Snyder fans - Peace was never an option.
Me - I've been preparing for this battle for seven years...
Better by technicality of being slightly less shit on balance.
He explicitly said he still thinks the Whedon cut is trash even though he made a few bits make more sense.
@@TheMemeRepository Rip and Tear, until it is done.
@@UFO_PILOT He pointed out the improvements, then procedures to dedicate all over the hundreds of new plot holes.
This is in Mauler terms "it was better."
"But Martian Manhunter is a pacifist, that's why he didn't want to get involved!"
Meanwhile, Martian Manhunter is a 50 year old US Army General. US Army Generals are famously known for their love of pacifism.
I'm pretty sure the reason he didn't get involved was because of fire. Every Synder fight has fire or the potential to cause fire and that sort of thing is intolerable to him.
@@dragonknightleader1 That's never stopped J'onn from physically or psychically helping out somewhere else. Think Wanda during Age Of Ultron. She helped clear out the city with her telepathic abilities.
@@mfundroid1116 Yes, in other DC media. In Synderverse, why else would he not help found the Justice League? The way he was set up in Man of Steel, he could have been the Nick Fury of the group. Instead, he just lets Supes fight Zod on his own and let WW, Bats, and Supes fight zombie Zod. And in this movie, talks to Lois instead of joining the team.
@@nont18411 Yes, I was being sarcastic...
The reason j'onn doesn't show himself is exactly the reason PA Kent did''t want Clark to not show his power. And nobody know exactly what he is doing while the league is fighting. He might have been there.
Whedon essentially had to attempt to make a Frankensteins monster out of the pieces of Snyder’s scenes but there were multiples of some body parts and completely missing other ones
No one in London would say "four city blocks". We don't have "blocks"
What if it was "bollocks"? XD
Yea I'm pretty sure no where in Europe uses blocks, yet another example of Americanisation....
@@panq8904 shut it you
maybe the guy is american... or german for what we know.
@@user-DrKritz115 Its a joke not a dick lol
The Long Man has Cometh for thee, Snyder.
*And the Long does not know mercy.*
Its a bonafide HIT! Who cares about any bridled rage? what good does it do? Real you tubers are getting demonitezed EVERYWHERE over this type fandom ... what does it matter. JUSTICE REIGNS!!!!
@@SuperOmnicronsj44 sorry what
@@SuperOmnicronsj44 you need help
@@SuperOmnicronsj44 you should definitely go outside and touch grass
@@SuperOmnicronsj44 You're very bored, aren't you?
My personal head canon is that there’s a perpetual gas leak in this universe
No one asked.
@@FirstnameLastname-my7bz Are you proud with that comment? Do you feel important yet?
@@FirstnameLastname-my7bz i did
@@FirstnameLastname-my7bz I did, I needed that explanation
@@FirstnameLastname-my7bz How edgy
"Guys, you have to understand. Snyder was the cringe all along!"
This about sums up the whole Snyder cut.
I hope you’re not implying Joss’ version was better. That movie was absolutely horrific. If you’re saying neither was good, fair enough… but man the Joss version was extremely hard to watch. It was so shallow.
@@BabyDoIIx They are almost equally bad.
@@BabyDoIIx Better? Here and there. Sure as hell not as the entire product. But Joss tried to salvage something from absolute garbage. He did the best he could - now granted still that wasn't much but at least he tried. Compare that to Snyder which had the time, the input from fans and the money and still managed to release an insult of a movie.
@@BabyDoIIxJoss’s version was better by the simple virtue of being shorter. I’m absolutely baffled that anyone got through Snyder’s version without fast-forwarding or falling asleep, because the plot is basically identical - but FOUR HOURS LONG.
@@MmmmiloAs someone who watched the Snyder Cut with other people that jumped in an hour and a half in, falling asleep is simply a prerequisite for the uninitiated regarding capeshit.
As for what I thought, it was certainly cooler, and I don’t absolutely hate the plot entirely (I guess I’m weird like that, but hey it’s not BvS!), however I have to agree with MauLer that the Josstice League got straight to the point while having Whedon’s own fluff to try and change the polarizing tone of the DCEU just three films in. The film can only be surgically altered for so long, however, and it’s an easy skip during a movie night, any night.
"I thought you were good at causing pain." Cold. True, but cold. We all Heard that line.
"Batman Knightmare mode because you wanted to see him team up with psychopath(zooms on Amber). Not that psychopath(zooms on Joker)."
@@johnsnow04 zooms on Batwomen
@@cameronroy2129 both of them, fucking
Still don’t understand why didn’t WB replace her with Emilia Clarke.
@@nont18411 The previous 2 movies (Justice League theatrical cut, Aquaman) were before we knew what she was. Back when everyone assumed the actors were just cleaning up Zack's footage from 2016-2017, her finishing that made sense. Scrap her from that and you should also scrap Ezra Miller (choked a pregnant fan in footage that hit twitter in 2020), and at thst point the Snyder Cut fails. It is frustrating that Heard and Miller seem to have mostly shot future (dream) material in the reshoots, where there was no need to keep those actors. But if the deal was that the studio was not going to interfere with Zack Snyder, then you get whatever he came up with, good and bad.
For once one of your rants is shorter than the movie you’re talking about lmaoooo
Black Panther, Jurassic world and predator unbridled rages are all under 60 mins. Way shorter than the movies he was covering.
@@edgarallanpwned6666 i know it was a joke, but still thanks for the trivia.
says more about the movie than the rant tbh
HA gotem *does the dab*
@@sStyleMo exactly. The worst movies are so bad every scene can have twice as much time used to rip on it than actually watching it. With such a discerning eye (and the help of a lengthier movie) this movie is taking less of a hit than others...even with the 2:18 time hahaha
Could you imagine if Alfred was actually plotting the whole time to allow the Justice League to die just so he could become Superman's butler and feel good about serving the best hero on the movie lol
Is Jeremy Irons Alfred?
@@yetanotherspuart3993 No, Jeremy Irons is an actor (sarcasm)
@@Doctor-Infinite
I could have sworn he was Ozymandias playing Alfred playing Lucius Fox.
Must have got that wrong though.
Dude, I would pay all the money just to see that
@@mrbiggles5389 so I looked up this SDS you keep referring to. It turns out its real but it actually works in reverse, its the people spouting its existence that actually have it.
Hating Snyder is a natural course of human existence but evangelising him is the true SDS.
You might wanna get that checked out, it can't be healthy.
Beginning: "The Joss cut is the inferior one"
Ending: "Joss did the better job here"
Now THAT is a character arc
lol.
Joss had toilet movie he cut stuff and tried make a better version but failed .but snyder hes the one who made the toilet
@@Chadcat180 Yep, Josstice League is still a horrible movie with a non-sensical plot. But he tried to make the best of what he had to work with.
@@givmi_more_w9251 he tried but he failed cuz og cut was a 4hr slo mo sludge that makes no sense .flash running back in time ? Thats a superman 78 kinda bs 🤣
Obviously not because the final vision matters the most apparently. You can write the most inane garbage, as long it's your vision, apparently it exempts you from being criticized.
Darkseid: A man I knew used to say that the mother boxes are like your car keys: easy to lose, but if you dig around, it's usually close by.
Coming straight at you from the Isaac Asimov school of losing a goddamn planet.
Vikings went to the New World and completely forgot about it. It’s not entirely comparable, but I’d just like to share.
@@kylevernon There are medieval era raiders forgetting a continent, then there is a super advanced alien with a high tech army forgetting the location of a planet. I know it's not meant to be exactly comparable, but cmon.
@@rev0568 What is space but a vast endless ocean of darkness. If there’s any place to forget, its there. Also if your entire army got slaughtered too. Take one look at their ships, you see plumes of smoke. Smoke?!?!? Meaning they’re burning fossil fuels, which means that this advanced alien race isn’t necessarily that advanced, it’s just that they’re extremely brutal.
Take any SuperMan story ever. Krypton colonized worlds, thousands of them. But for some reason they never explain why they gave up those colonies. Krypton was destroyed because they harvested its resources too much. I can easily point out that it’s nonsensical to continue to excavate your home plane to when you can literally terraform other planets and harvest their resources instead.
Tbh, I think the dumber thing is why Zeus didn’t hide the world like he did with Diana’s island.
Try remembering a planet from a million over multiverse
No need to stress yourself Mauler. If it means your health we can wait an extra few weeks or months for a video to come out. Reading your comment I can see why you never want to work like this again. Take it easy.
Hell no. I’d chain up Mauler to a guided pipe system like Jesse Pinkman. “Get back to cooking that delicious meth Mauler!!!”
Stop kissing his ass. We want content. Work like this MORE, Mauler! We demand it!
@@mrbiggles5389 Are you really so pathetic your bringing religion into hating a guy who criticized your movie? Get over yourself.
@@mrbiggles5389 Sure buddy, if you want to live in a world where the Snyder Cut is a great movie then you do that but too bad that’s not this world.
The review can't be shorter than the movie. This better be part 1
The rage is half of the movie, imagine how long the review will be!
Unbridled rages are usually more stream of consciousness rants that prelude to full reviews later so yeah it basically is part 1.
Probably pt 1 of 6.
Expect part 2 out some time in 2045.
Maybe Mauler doesnt count the slow motion as real length :D
Somehow it never occured to me before watching this review, but how exactly are we supposed to think that Darkseid is powerful/threatening? He got his ass kicked by Ares, who got his ass kicked later by Wonder woman, who is basically canonically weaker than superman. So the 'big bad' of the DCEU is weaker than some villian that the not-even-strongest of the good guy team has already beaten 1on1. And its not like Darkseid is a lex-luthor-type villian, who might be weak but a threat through intellect and planning. Nope, he is just a normal-ass villian who gets outperformed by several of our heros individually, let alone combined. Great villian, im on the edge of my seat -.-.
Snyder needed to get *his* DarkSeid into the film at any cost. He thought he was staking his claim to DC’s IP but in fact he just got himself fired.
@@summertyme5748 Still coping and seething I see. A year after you still haven't gotten senpai MauLer to notice you.
He didn't get his ass kicked by Ares, he literally got setup in a combo attack by three others god's and before that he manhandles a Green Lantern. That is how we know that Darkseid is a threat, he just flatout manhandles one of the most powerful forces in the known universe. Why is everyone lying about how Darkseid only gets his ass kicked by Ares? I mean, did we not see Artemis distract him with her arrows and shoot like three of them into his chest? Did we not see Zeus distracting him with his lightning, preventing him from properly countering Ares' axe? Also, are we going to ignore that Wonder Woman killed a still weakened Ares? Saying that Darkseid has already lost this because Wonder Woman killed a weakened version of the god that handed him his ass during his prime seems like major coping in an effort to stroke the ego of someone who is just objectively wrong about everything of substance he says.
@@voiceofreason467 He didn't get setup in a combo attack at all. He gets BTFO-ed the first time Ares hits him. The Darkseid I know would never have been hurt by a mere god.
@@Atheismo9760 Okay, so you're telling me Artemis hitting with her arrows, Zeus distracting him with his lightning to set him up for a lethal strike from Ares didn't happen. That this combo attack from three god's did not happen. You're just lying to yourself or lying to me to cope. That or you don't know that a combo attack can take place from multiple different people working together with singular powerful attacks. Either way, your objection is stupid.
Also, the Darkseid you know clearly doesn't exist because he gets into fights and gets hurt by other god's all the time. Also what is this mere god shit? You do know that Darkseid is a god, they just call themselves new as a designation of being born from the cataclysm that destroyed the old. There isn't anything really different about Darkseid from other gods. He needs prayer and faith to keep him in power, he lives in his own sphere of existence like the other god's, he can project an image of himself into other universes... he has all the characteristics that make him no different than any other deity in the DC multiverse.
Either way, the character you're talking about is Uxes, not Darkseid. He didn't take up the mantle yet and hasn't consolidated his power as of that point. So him getting KO'd like this makes total sense anyways. The fact that you didn't identify that in the first place indicates you know jack and shit and nothing about Darkseid.
Welcome to the comments, traveller.
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Hey Jay. Don't let them kick you!
Hello there
I too, wish good creatives got the time, freedom and money Zach got, what a waste.
Comment traveller: Kick Jay
I'm still going to say it: Most of DC's animated content is more thought out, more mature, and better written than any entry in the DCEU.
Well yeah, why do you think MauLer used a Superman vs The Elite clip to show how backwards Snyder’s Superman is?
@@tylerleach8796 I guarantee that was Meme Repository's doing. Mauler don't know shit about the animated universe lol.
As for the animated movie being better than the DCEU, yeah...until Apokolips war...
@@Zer0Hour17 I mean I found most of the New 52 animated films to be garbage.
most of. But then they dropped basically all of that hard work and well thought out plan for a horribly written movie that explains the phrase “gore for shock vallue”.
(The Apokolips movie. Absolute dogshit but looks cool)
@@EvanSol919 Absolutely. Michael Ironside's take on Darkseid in particular is far better than Snyder can even conceive of.
Seeing Leto joker and responding with "Please stop being!" is totally appropriate.
I find it odd that many are demanding that this movie be canon and that it replace the theatrical release, but don't seem to realize that this movie would break the continuity of the movies that came after Justice League, both in the movie's future and past.
Hey, no fair. You are thinking out loud, instead of *not thinking* out loud as Snyder cult followers are prone to do.
What even is the canon of dc supposed to be? I've seen every one I think is supposed to be canon except birds of prey and the second s squad and I have no fucking idea what's going on
How does this movie break Continuity?
The biggest one I can think of at the moment is the parts that have to do with Aquaman. Mera, in the Synder Cut, talks with a British accent, but an American one in Aquaman. It is revealed that the Atlantians have their own language underwater that come off in high pitch squeaks and shrieks. Yet, in Aquaman, they can speak normally in water as they do on land. I think they were trying to set up that Arthur couldn't communicate with the Atlantians because he never learned their ways, but it's torn down when they speak normally in the next film. It also mentions that King Orm was dealing with rebels against Atlantis, but in Aquaman, that doesn't begin until Orm starts "uniting" the other kingdoms of the sea. Just a few things I mentioned, but there is quite more within the movie that would have contradicted the other movies following Justice League, should WB decide to make this canon.
@@thefunnyhatter7390 the American Accent and British...well...uuuuhhhh....I give you that.
But the Atlantians speaking that high pitch squeak noise in ZSJL and they are speaking English in Aquaman isn't a big deal at all. In ZSJK, we are hearing them speaking like that from our perspective and in Aquaman man, we're hearing them talk in their perspective.
The King Orm dealing with rebels thing...I don't even know about that/noticed it.
This movie was so long that i forgot Zeus separated the Mother-boxes with lightning by the time Diana said you cant do that.
Lol. She could do that, and she can kill SteppenWolf just like she killed Ares.
So did Zack.
When did she say that?
@@aishaarshadalam3412 did you even watch the video? Its clipped and MauLer provides the minute mark in this video..
@@nickthemage2052 I'm not all the way through yet
I hated when Wonder Woman came in screen because she brought the yodelers of Themyscira with her and I wanted to join Steppenwolf to make it end
dude every second she’s on screen or simply speaking is god awful. her narration over the battle flashback made my dick hurt...
“A gOLdeN aGe oF HeRos!!”
1 week.
Eight months of no videos, your TFA series left hanging, and then you chug this out in ONE WEEK?
You absolute massive.
He has said that he works on what he’s passionate about...
That should tell you the scope of Snyder’s crimes against cinema.
We need to bring back Nuremberg trials for his celluloid war crimes. Him and his Hollywood pals.
With a plea bargain for Whedon.
And hey, hey, those TFA juggernauts take some time, the last one alone was twice the length of this, and a lot more broad than about a single (very long) movie and how it happens to fail at damn near everything. But yeah Absolute Damn Massive indeed.
@@tuskinradar8688 those TFA videos seem utterly repetitive. You can't distinguish one from another. Not his most brilliant work imho.
@@grproteus the most i can say on the fly is that Seems is the apt word there. I'd disagree more elaborately but its been a while since I've rewatched them. I'll just say I do recall them being very enlightening on the problems of TFA early on, but becoming a broader retrospective on the Sequels and Disney SW as a whole while still using TFA as a springboard and chronologically covering the issues of that film in depth. Personal favorite may be still be his Soma work but the TFA work is very high quality iirc.
@@tuskinradar8688 "seem" is just me being "polite". I've seen them three times back to back, and they elaborate about the same thing over and over, with too many references in future movies. If I wanted an analysis of TLJ, I'd watch an analysis of TLJ.
Imagine ranting on a movie for what rivals it's bloated run time and still having it be more entertaining than the movie itself.
Hats off to you mr Mauler.
That's not fair Mauler, "the same scene but with MovieBob" can beat any sort of argument!
Even the entire The Shawshank Redemption can't hold against it.
I don’t know bob playing Andy getting *coughs* handled by a group of guys might just work
He wouldn't fit through the sewage pipe.
Don't MovieBob and Mauler agree on the quality of this film.
Not gonna lie, I think Full Metal Jacket where movie bob is Gomer Pyle would be awesome
@@jcdf2 Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. Moviebob is a terrible person
HOW CAN YOU MAKE A CRITIQUE THATS LONGER THAN THE MOV...hey, wait a minute....
Coom
Coom yoom
I do wonder what that crowd is going to do about this video. Will they finally watch more than 2 minutes of it before calling it trash?
Checkmate
Expectations subverted
"I thought you were good at causing pain?"
*Zooms into Amber heard*
Me: dead
25:30
I just finished watching this and now I realize there's so much Amber Heard jokes and it's astronomical
_Perfection._
Honestly Mauler you should be thanking Snyder. He made a movie that took longer to watch than it took you to critique, so now all of your points are suddenly valid.
Long man
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Snyder bloated the film. He cheated.
the point i dont like is how he said darkside was close to death, he does know thats just a projection and weaker form of darkside and he had to fight like 8 gods and a green lantern vs a god and cannon fodder like how is this a fair fight
We need more slow motion in movies so Mauler can make more critiques which are valid 😃
@@generalgrievous9831 Elaborate on projection. I'm not up to Darkseid lore, but i don't remember him using projections. If he's down to fight - he usually does it manually, and he's one of the strongest combatants in DC universe. Unless this is before he got his overpowered beams?
And Mauler's point seems to have been that Darkseid - the most dangerous individual in DC universe - spends his first 5 minutes on screen getting his ass kicked. Even if this is a weaker version of him from the past - that does undermine his Big Bad status, so he's not a very impressive threat.
This will get lost in the comments, but I am currently laughing my ass off after the “where did you learn to edit? ON A FARM?” edit. Funniest joke I have heard in a while, and im so glad I have seen the EFAP’s that also meme that line. Thanks for giving a down dude a good laugh mate. Keep up the incredible effort and commitment to consistency!
I need to find that comment
1:51:00
The "ON A FARM???!!!" got me too..... 😅
Tbh I chuckle everytime I think of it.
Maulers confusion at the random old lady next to darkseid would only get worse when he learns her name is “Granny Goodness”
Imagine him trying to watch a single episode of Young Justice.
@@slow17motion What's wrong with Young Justice? I may need a rewatch but I found it to be above average.
@@grayski3324 I’m also confused season 1 is probably better than any snider movie
@@grayski3324 I like Young Justice. It's just that it's so dense with lore, much of which if referential to the comics and nothing introduced on the show. Or, if it is introduced on the show, it'll be a small thing mentioned years ago. It's just a difficult show to follow closely.
@@slow17motion I can see that
I love the Deathstroke post credits scene because it ties into a Batman movie that never happened.
"I fear no man, but this thing..."
_mauler being angry_
"...it entertains me"
"One shudders to imagine what inhuman thoughts lie behind that gas mask...
what dreams of longness and sustained tisms...."
@@benjamingrant5970 Nah nah I ain’t talking about that FREAK, alright? He’s not here is he? How do I get this video off??-
@@Gideon_the_Seraph beware the longman cometh
Everyone hates on Jesse eisenberg's perform. I disagree
He absolutely nailed the riddler
No, no....he’s still playing Mark Zuckerberg....on cocaine!
@@summertyme5748 Maybe he's playing an lobotomized love child of our interpretations. Who knows at this point honestly
At least he knows what movie he’s in. The other actors seem to be mistaken
But Riddler is intelligent though
He's nothing like the Riddler.
In fairness, dumping one box in a deep deep hole would make sense. Of course, you should make a lead crypt for it or something, and make it damn damn deep, but it would be a neat thing to see an invading supervillain go "Why can't we find the third one? Humans! Tell me where have you put it for safeguarding?" and the reply is merely: "we have no fucking idea m8"
what would be even funnier is the humans would literally have no idea cause of how lost it is
Drop it in a volcano, it may not break but I doubt it Will float in lava
well, they wouldn't say m8, because they are adults not living on the internet like you
@@aboveall9521 THAT was your take away you utter troglodyte?
@@palladiamorsdeus LOL triggered troll
Some people argue that the reason Cyborg’s auto defense system shot at Superman is because of the vision he saw of that Knightmare timeline where Superman is evil. But if that’s the case, how come it never activated at any other point when he was with Superman. Or hell, why did it not activate with Darkseid when he showed up
Exactly. So much obvious plot-hoops set up for the characters to jump thru. True story is: *We want to show Superman fighting the rest of the Justice League to reassure his fans that he is 1 million times more powerful than everyone else….so make an excuse to start a fight, and have him punk the rest of the JL.* That’s why.
Not just why did it not activate at some other point as well, but why did it activate for such a short period of time? Why wasn't Cryborg forced to fight Superman until he got destroyed?
@@Atheismo9760 yeah, I never thought about that.
Wasn't it only batty that had that dream I don't recall anyone else having that nightmare dream. I mean he told people about it.
@@brentmichael4770 they were referring to the part when they try and bring supes back. Cyborg is plugged into the ship and sees a vision of the future
MauLer: *Drops this video*
Snyder boys: *Ancient Lamentation Music Plays*
😂😂😂
"Why was Zack trying to rip off Linkin Park" oh my god how did I not notice that, I'm dying lol.
Realized watching this review... this movie uses the "Waiting for Goku" trope but unironically
Can you imagine Zack filming a Super Saiyan power up??? In slo mo? It would never end.
@@summertyme5748 Their hair would turn grey before it turned gold!
Would that make Wonder Woman Vegeta because she insists on calling him Kal-El when everyone else calls him Clark?
@@fenris5932 lol yea huh
You pushed the Goku Button.
You shouldn't of did that.
Plot Twist: He ain't comin'
Three years, man feels like yesterday people would still defend snyder.
"That theme that plays when she's about to commit a war crime"
*Then I died*
I just heard it, Fucking cracked!
So did all those people...
That got me GOOD
Yeah she even let a war criminal that made gas weapons go free. Wonder Woman should be in the movie Judgement at Nuremberg.
@@whitehorsedown6499 *"Saaaaave Doctooor Pooooooison!!"*
"Oh no, my only weakness, an axe" - Darkseid
It’s the real reason he exiled Steppenwolf, couldn’t trust any man who wields an axe.
That was young darkseid(it's clearly seen in the design difference) without the Omega effect going against the atlanteans, all factions of men and 3 old gods. That was his weakness.
@@turkishman92gesundheit21 if only the film had explained that even a little bit. For the majority of people, they see shirtless Darkseid getting his ass kicked and lose any real dread.
@@MorallyDubiousFrog it did lol...
@@debadityabhowmik6533 No it does not. Diana simply says that Darkseid invaded a long time ago and lost. There’s no explanation of him growing in power since then or obtaining the Omega Effect, the only thing any moviegoer notices is that his eyes are brighter and he now wears a shirt.
SuperCuts delight put it best: Wonder Woman stops the bad guys from blowing up the bank. Then does it herself, for fun. 😂
And Wanda had to pay some consequences for that but wonder woman did not
@@fayazhossain3821 not really, only the neighbors sees her as evil. But Monica thinks she’s the hero and pretty sure so is everyone else.
@@Shizilol I am talking about the Lagos incident in civil war
@@fayazhossain3821 ah yes, she did pay some consequences by first house arresting her than fully arrest her in a full security prison. Wonder Woman was seen as a hero that inspires a little girl because she ironically did what the Criminals came to do, to blow the building up. At least Whedon tries to censor it to make it looks like it was just a strong wind blast that knock the criminal out of the wall
@@Shizilol you're right
2:13:17 "I've heard people say, unironically, that we at least get 'something', in reference to additional content for characters, plot or history. 'Something' is un-fuckin'-acceptable for an additional two fucking hours! Where the hell are your standards!?"
Dude. This line cuts. Because it's a powerful counter to us silver lining folks who might push that perspective too far. Because I've said that exact thing before, albeit not about this nightmare of a film. It's something for all to chew on, but particularly those who tend towards optimism...or faux optimism to drum up hype, likes and views. We really need to remind ourselves that the standard? The average? It's not ZERO. XD
"Fans of Martian Manhunter"
There are dozens of us. DOZENS!!
Damn straight! The Justice League Christmas episode is amazing because of his plot with Clark.
at least several dozen of us! if not a couple more!
There are fans of him?
@@dianabarnett6886 There are DOZENS OF US!!!
@@machine1685 is this a walking dead telltale reference?
Pro tip: If you want good Justice League content, just go watch the Justice League animated series (and Justice League Unlimited, the follow up series)
Agree but I would start with Animated Superman Apokolips Now 1 and 2.
In less than 1 hour it is a complete and satisfying telling of this story.
Another pro tip: Avoid Zach Snyder at all cost.
100% agree. JL and JLU are far superior.
The JL animated series was so ahead of its time.
😌😌 Im so glad you guys know and cherish that show like me and watch Snyder's shit and say "WTF" as well
How tf did Darkseid simply forget where the most important planet/location of his entire saga is? You left your s*** there, it has you're holy grail, and it's the only place you've ever gotten your ass kicked... And you forget.
It's also B$ that he has no way to find his mother boxes - but when they want to - they called Steppen Wolf 3000 years later.
Imagine you lose a simple phone. You can't locate it via GPS, you can't call it. It's hopeless. Fine, then how can it turn around and call you?
These are the most advanced teleportation [and everything else] systems in the universe. But you leave them somewhere, somehow forget, and too bad. Nothing can be done...until oh wait, now something can??? This is just a little kid writing a story, filled with "oops never thought about that ones."
Maybe he got brain damage from getting his arse kicked?
Darkseid lost his status when he came back to Apokolips. There was a rebellion in which another God rose to power and ruled Apokolips for centuries. When Darkseid ultimately retrieved the throne, all his people who were with him during the first invasion on Earth have died. I speculated this based on Zack's comments and the line where Steppenwolf said I slaughtered everyone who tried to take your throne. Plus, it may seem that the first invasion happened in Themiscyra. That may have been the main reason why Zeus hid the island. Plus, the Greek Gods may have done something to fully conceal the Earth. I mean, how else are they gonna explain Doctor Fate's existence. You can treat this situation as the same to the role of the Ancient One on why Dormamu never tried to swallow the Earth. There are a lot of other explanations I can think of that can answer your question. The best thing to do is hope for a sequel.
Here's how I'd write it:
They never came to Earth in the past, but perhaps - through some cosmic accident or something - they lost the Mother Boxes while conquering some other world(s), and have since then been searching the countless worlds for them in addition to the ALE.
I mean in a better way of explaining than Zack's excuse. Let's say Darkseid's avatar died, and since Darkseid's form in the main universe is a avatar of himself, a part of his consciousness sent out in a projected form. Since this avatar died, he lost all the memories of that avatar eith it, meaning any information about it was lost, especially since Parademons themselves aren't really able to convey start charts.
EDIT: I'm going by one of the DC Comics portrayal of Darkseid is that his true form is in a whole other universe, and if he moves to this universe in his true form all of reality breaks. Also including the theory that this is a avatar of his will with a fraction of his power, his full power untapped in his avatars
Mauler took two hours to explain thoroughly how different and more cohesive the Joss cut of the movie is from Snyder's cut. Snyder took four hours to have Wonder Woman walk through a cave and have Steppenwolf have Skype calls throughout the film.