Hey guys, I've been following your instructional videos for a long time now and they have been more than helpful through every step of the learning curve. I love the new on board sessions but there is one point you are missing, it seems like it is super easy and stable to just get up on a board, stand up and get up on foil. I promise you anyone who stats this sport is bound to fall off the board in every step of the way. It would be nice to see more fails and how to avoid them during the leaning session. One specific level I remember as super frustrating is overfoiling on the first times when getting on foil. There are not enough videos on this subject and I imagine it can help a lot of new comers
This new format totally rocks! The hip-movement back and forth is an excellent suggestion. I get up on foil and while I try to focus on going upwind but not too far into the wind, my board is going camel-back up and down - touching the water, up to almost breaching, down again and up again. Its a challenge to get enough speed and stability in that process. But I'm just adding patience, since it is so much fun. I know that I just need to hone muscle memory on this one - it's the only way. Thank you guys again for these excellent instructions. they have been valuable for me. But the most valuable help I've gotten is from other surfers on the beach who had been watching my movements and come up to me afterwards saying " I think you are not heading into the wind enough" or "maybe bend you knees a little more" or something. This is on-beach-helpfullness - superimportant for making a great sport
Hey guys, I'm here in Oz,you've inspired me to start wingen my 8ft SUP , picking up my 6ft 3" sky wing tomorrow and 1900cm Konrad foil(Aussie made if you haven't heard of them) arrives within the week,come from a lifelong shortboard background and SUPing the last 18mths,the journey begins, awesome content,love your positivity,the old frother from OZ.
Wow this on board format is awesome, thanks for taking the lessons to the next level. Super good to be able to see it in real time on board. I'm a total beginner, only had one session on a board so far (but heading out later today). One thing i noticed yesterday learning to use the wing and stay upwind was that the position of the wing, how far back or close to the nose of the board made a lot of difference to me controlling the direction i was going. If thats a thing it would be great to see some intel about that in the vids. Thanks so much for your brilliant series - love the good vibes and the awesome instruction. Peace out from New Zealand ;)
I have watched most of you videos, but this one is perfect for where I am in my learning curve. Its awsome and deserves way more than 310 likes in my opinion. Thanks for your work, loving your positive attitude !
This new on-the-board live commentary is really helpful. I've been struggling to get on foil in light wind, but this video gave me several things to try or do differently (Gwen--letting the board turn down wind, Kelly--shifting weight with hip movements, Damo--pulling in hard with the back hand on the pump). Thanks for what you're doing--I got started in this sport because of this channel. If you ever come to Central Texas, we've got some Jan-May winds on our lakes.
Thanks so much for more great instruction. One thing that could be useful in future is a video on common mistakes you see that stop people getting up ( and staying up) on foil. For example for a while I feel I was kinda locked into my weight being too far back preventing the board from picking up enough speed to take off. Thanks again for all the inspiration, from a cold damp UK.
A very very very good explanation of getting up on foil. Thank you. As of today I’m starting to develop semi yet uncontrolled speed on my long 8’8” downwinder. From not being able to stand for five plus sessions (days) to advancing to standing for a whole 3 seconds, then 10 seconds, then traveling 10 feet, 25 feet, 40 feet, all in days, not hours, now a 200’ semi controlled slog and a little bouncing on the board, ok speed, it’s been a long 15+ day voyage over 3 months (had to quit and get more foam in the game). At 73 next month, I know foiling is getting closer and closer before my 12/21 birthday!!!
Thank you we appreciate you! You are an inspiration and we hope to be you in our later years. Thank you for sharing Henry and Happy Birthday coming up!
great series of videos guys.. the main thing I took from this was use your hips... I had been struggling to lift until I just used my hips to move my weight and bingo.. up and flying !
Really good setup with the camera and description while doing. You guys have got me hooked. I’m goofy foot and my regular foot up on foil technique is not as good. The angle here captures the offset foot placement and this helped me to have a breakthrough day today.
I am getting on wing foil for the first time tomorrow in hood river. I have watched a ton of your videos, hopefully some of it sank in. I will get back to you on how I did, im hoping years of windsurfing and kiting will help. Larry
Thank you guys!! As always very helpful video it’s just where I stand right now in my learning process. I wish I can have more time and more windy days to practice more.
Thanks for doing these fellas! High level instruction. Quick question: Having trouble getting up on foil with 3 year old Slinghot 125L Wizard with a tuttle that's way aft. Where would you suggest I place my feet in light wind trying to get up on foil?
Thanks for the great video! I get a lot of wind swell where I'm at, which is a challenge for me to as a beginner since it adds another force on the foil and another layer to the balancing act. I'm looking forward to riding the swell when I get better, but in the meantime, any insight into how to manage it would be much appreciated!
Thank you very much Dam and Gwen. The one thing I have a lot of problems with is sheeting and ending up too upwind which prevents me to get the speed needed to lift. Can you spend couple of tips on it? When you sheet in, what’s the hip / foot placement you recommend in order to gain speed and get the needed speed to lift? Thanks a lot
I spent many months not getting up bc I didn’t want to loose ground, one of Damien’s videos corrected this. I also got a larger board, I was plowing through the water rather than skimming over it! Keep trying brother!
Hugely helpful as always. Question on foot placement. I noticed all three of you had your front foot off the centerline. Personal preference or proper placement?
I found that VERY FLAT WATER critical for first successes up on foil, because it allows one to slow down the transition to get up on foil, reset your balance and keep board flat as the board accelerates and the surface resistance disappears. Difficult to do in chop. You guys know exactly what to do when the board pops up, I needed it to occur in slower motion. Flat water and strong wind sometimes not easy to find, I fortunately found a local beach with straight offshore wind but perfect shallow depth along my course. I had developed good upwind skills by then, and never a long swim back to shallow water there. Hopefully these flat water reflexes will translate to bumpier waters, then can add pumping for light winds.
Thanks for this video. I am up on foil, FINALLY got up and stable on my weak side as well as my strong side but really can only just go straight and usually wind up down wind and doing the walk of shame. Question now is, once up on foil, you say head into the wind. How? In windsurfing you tilt the sail to the tail of the board, lean to your heel side and look hard over your upwind shoulder. Doing this wing foiling has caused me to round up and fall. Can you go through the steps to actually sail upwind, ie where is the wing in relation to the board, body position on the board, heel/toe pressure, etc. Thanks!!
This latest video series has been so helpful thank you! Can you do a video focused on the steps just after getting on foil. I'm 5 sessions in and I can get on foil and maintain it for a bit, but then the board seems head up into the wind, the nose rises and the board slows and stalls. The whole time I'm pulling in on my back hand trying no fall backwards.
I have a right unstable knee because of a injury (no more anterior cruciate ligament). Do you think it's possible to start foiling or would that be a no go. In other words, is there a lot of leg/knee/ankle rotation going with wingfoiling?
Its personal preference. Some use them and some don't. It can be a little taxing on your arms but a nice work out as well. They make harnesses so it is more on how you feel and what you like.
Excellent video guys - thank you! Quick question - does it make a difference how one's leading hand (top of strut) grip is oriented? I.e. fingers facing up towards you like a bicep curl position, or fingers pointing down? In the video, I see the leading hand grip you guys have is not a bicep-curl position. I assume it can have an impact on the wing orientation.
Thanks so much for your hard work! Question about going upwind… if you are overpowered, the wing is to big for conditions, is it harder to go upwind? I got blown away on a new wing but conditions were super harsh. I’ve been holding ground, but couldn’t that day. Thanks!
Brian, Yes if you are crazy overpowered it can be hard to stay up wind 100%. Also take into consideration sometimes the windier it is the ocean or water will generate some current also making it harder to go up wind.
A good video on technique. What I find missing in 99% of instructional videos is the weight of the ride, wing and foil size, and wind speed. I weigh in at 100kg what would this session look like if all rides had a handicap to weigh 100kg?
What is sadly missing is help dealing with the radical difference between the feel and balance of the friction of the board on the water vs the near frictionless feel when on wing. Everything else you discuss was easy within 90 minutes. The release balance is difficult and it got about 20 seconds of discussion
@damien leroy please, I am looking for an eFoil and there are many, but I don't want to overpay, nor end up with a piece of junk like the chinese 3.5k clones on alibaba. Can you make a video explaining a) how efoils relate to wing foiling (what skills it helps develop) and b) what to prefer and avoid when ordering one?
Wow that's a 50 min video! ahhhhhh. Well honestly keeping it simple an Efoil will teach you how to foil 100% and get you feeling comfortable on foil. The wing its a whole new learning curve all in itself. Then you put them together. The only Efoil's I would purchase are LIFT or Flite hands down. Would not look at anything else. My thoughts.... I love the LIFTS in my eye's superior!
Whenever I get unsticked from the water it feels like I am being catapulted into hyperspeed, is this normal when on foil? It is really hard telling that from videos
100% the drag from the board or stick to the water is released and yes everything gets faster. Just know its coming and depower your wing or edge into the wind to cut down on the power with letting out on your back hand to take away power. Hope that helps.
This is so frustrating. I've been out 10 times and only managed to rise the foil a couple of times a few seconds. Very hard to get that foil out of the water.
Hey guys,
I've been following your instructional videos for a long time now and they have been more than helpful through every step of the learning curve.
I love the new on board sessions but there is one point you are missing, it seems like it is super easy and stable to just get up on a board, stand up and get up on foil. I promise you anyone who stats this sport is bound to fall off the board in every step of the way.
It would be nice to see more fails and how to avoid them during the leaning session.
One specific level I remember as super frustrating is overfoiling on the first times when getting on foil.
There are not enough videos on this subject and I imagine it can help a lot of new comers
A great idea friend we will add it to the list.....Thank you!
En effet on apprend plus de ses erreurs 😅
This new format totally rocks! The hip-movement back and forth is an excellent suggestion. I get up on foil and while I try to focus on going upwind but not too far into the wind, my board is going camel-back up and down - touching the water, up to almost breaching, down again and up again. Its a challenge to get enough speed and stability in that process. But I'm just adding patience, since it is so much fun. I know that I just need to hone muscle memory on this one - it's the only way. Thank you guys again for these excellent instructions. they have been valuable for me. But the most valuable help I've gotten is from other surfers on the beach who had been watching my movements and come up to me afterwards saying " I think you are not heading into the wind enough" or "maybe bend you knees a little more" or something. This is on-beach-helpfullness - superimportant for making a great sport
Thank you Martin for your info! We appreciate you!
Hey guys, I'm here in Oz,you've inspired me to start wingen my 8ft SUP , picking up my 6ft 3" sky wing tomorrow and 1900cm Konrad foil(Aussie made if you haven't heard of them) arrives within the week,come from a lifelong shortboard background and SUPing the last 18mths,the journey begins, awesome content,love your positivity,the old frother from OZ.
Enjoy the journey friend! The fun starts now, thanks for the kind words!
Wow this on board format is awesome, thanks for taking the lessons to the next level. Super good to be able to see it in real time on board. I'm a total beginner, only had one session on a board so far (but heading out later today). One thing i noticed yesterday learning to use the wing and stay upwind was that the position of the wing, how far back or close to the nose of the board made a lot of difference to me controlling the direction i was going. If thats a thing it would be great to see some intel about that in the vids. Thanks so much for your brilliant series - love the good vibes and the awesome instruction. Peace out from New Zealand ;)
Thank you for sharing!
I have watched most of you videos, but this one is perfect for where I am in my learning curve. Its awsome and deserves way more than 310 likes in my opinion. Thanks for your work, loving your positive attitude !
Thank you Rob! You are very kind... We appreciate you!
This new on-the-board live commentary is really helpful. I've been struggling to get on foil in light wind, but this video gave me several things to try or do differently (Gwen--letting the board turn down wind, Kelly--shifting weight with hip movements, Damo--pulling in hard with the back hand on the pump). Thanks for what you're doing--I got started in this sport because of this channel. If you ever come to Central Texas, we've got some Jan-May winds on our lakes.
Pumped for you friend! Thanks for you kind message! Hope to share the water with you one day.
These 'live' videos are the way forward! Really valuable🤙Thanks Gwen, Damo and Kelly!! Every coaching point is so valuable and helpful 😊
Thank you Mark.
Thanks so much for more great instruction. One thing that could be useful in future is a video on common mistakes you see that stop people getting up ( and staying up) on foil. For example for a while I feel I was kinda locked into my weight being too far back preventing the board from picking up enough speed to take off. Thanks again for all the inspiration, from a cold damp UK.
Steve, you could have had the foil mounted too far back. Which can make this happen.... Making all the wight go back to get it to fly.
A very very very good explanation of getting up on foil. Thank you.
As of today I’m starting to develop semi yet uncontrolled speed on my long 8’8” downwinder. From not being able to stand for five plus sessions (days) to advancing to standing for a whole 3 seconds, then 10 seconds, then traveling 10 feet, 25 feet, 40 feet, all in days, not hours, now a 200’ semi controlled slog and a little bouncing on the board, ok speed, it’s been a long 15+ day voyage over 3 months (had to quit and get more foam in the game).
At 73 next month, I know foiling is getting closer and closer before my 12/21 birthday!!!
Thank you we appreciate you! You are an inspiration and we hope to be you in our later years. Thank you for sharing Henry and Happy Birthday coming up!
great series of videos guys.. the main thing I took from this was use your hips... I had been struggling to lift until I just used my hips to move my weight and bingo.. up and flying !
Thank you Trev!
Awesome vid! Love that you have both male and female instructor.
Heading to La Ventana Friday…these instructional videos are awesome! Thanks guys!
You are going to love that spot! Great place!
Really good setup with the camera and description while doing. You guys have got me hooked. I’m goofy foot and my regular foot up on foil technique is not as good. The angle here captures the offset foot placement and this helped me to have a breakthrough day today.
Glad we could help Danny!
sweet sweater Damo....guys, love the on-water vids, soooo helpful, keep it up! Pray for wind!
Thank you Matt!
I am getting on wing foil for the first time tomorrow in hood river. I have watched a ton of your videos, hopefully some of it sank in. I will get back to you on how I did, im hoping years of windsurfing and kiting will help. Larry
Thank you guys!! As always very helpful video it’s just where I stand right now in my learning process. I wish I can have more time and more windy days to practice more.
Thank you Alex!
You guys are great!
....can't get any better help!
I guess, you've no idea how inspiring you are!?
Greetz from the Alps
Thank you for the kind words! You made our Sunday!
Awesome! Thank to answer all my questions (to the previous video)! Best coaching ever
Thank you! Happy to help.
Best video I found. Thx for the tips 🙏
We appreciate you!
Thx for the tips and good vibes ❤️🤗
Loving the onboard stuff! Quality!
Thank you!
Really helpful guys - thank you!
Thanks for doing these fellas! High level instruction. Quick question: Having trouble getting up on foil with 3 year old Slinghot 125L Wizard with a tuttle that's way aft. Where would you suggest I place my feet in light wind trying to get up on foil?
Superb content. Very helpful. Thank you, guys (and gal)!!
Thank you Ben we appreciate you!
Thanks for the great video! I get a lot of wind swell where I'm at, which is a challenge for me to as a beginner since it adds another force on the foil and another layer to the balancing act. I'm looking forward to riding the swell when I get better, but in the meantime, any insight into how to manage it would be much appreciated!
You will like a video that's coming! :)
@@DamienLeroyRUclips Awesome, I really appreciate the work you all put into this, keep ‘em coming!
Thank you very much Dam and Gwen. The one thing I have a lot of problems with is sheeting and ending up too upwind which prevents me to get the speed needed to lift. Can you spend couple of tips on it? When you sheet in, what’s the hip / foot placement you recommend in order to gain speed and get the needed speed to lift? Thanks a lot
Lets see what we can do friend! Have a great week....
I spent many months not getting up bc I didn’t want to loose ground, one of Damien’s videos corrected this. I also got a larger board, I was plowing through the water rather than skimming over it! Keep trying brother!
@@briansmith207 which video?>
Hugely helpful as always. Question on foot placement. I noticed all three of you had your front foot off the centerline. Personal preference or proper placement?
This helps to have leverage forward and backwards. As you get better you may go more center but this is a nice way to have more control.
Another great video. Thanks Damien
Thank you friend!
Learning lots. Thank you guys!
Thank you!
I found that VERY FLAT WATER critical for first successes up on foil, because it allows one to slow down the transition to get up on foil, reset your balance and keep board flat as the board accelerates and the surface resistance disappears. Difficult to do in chop. You guys know exactly what to do when the board pops up, I needed it to occur in slower motion. Flat water and strong wind sometimes not easy to find, I fortunately found a local beach with straight offshore wind but perfect shallow depth along my course. I had developed good upwind skills by then, and never a long swim back to shallow water there. Hopefully these flat water reflexes will translate to bumpier waters, then can add pumping for light winds.
It will David! Thank you for sharing and agree 100%!
Thanks for this video. I am up on foil, FINALLY got up and stable on my weak side as well as my strong side but really can only just go straight and usually wind up down wind and doing the walk of shame. Question now is, once up on foil, you say head into the wind. How? In windsurfing you tilt the sail to the tail of the board, lean to your heel side and look hard over your upwind shoulder. Doing this wing foiling has caused me to round up and fall. Can you go through the steps to actually sail upwind, ie where is the wing in relation to the board, body position on the board, heel/toe pressure, etc. Thanks!!
This should help, but drive off your back foot more and twist the board into the wind. ruclips.net/video/t_-9aWM-KUE/видео.html
THIS IS EXCELLENT ! Super helpful to see and hear exactly what the three of you is doing, as it happens. Curious, what was the wind speed?
Glad we could help! 8-14 maybe....
This latest video series has been so helpful thank you! Can you do a video focused on the steps just after getting on foil. I'm 5 sessions in and I can get on foil and maintain it for a bit, but then the board seems head up into the wind, the nose rises and the board slows and stalls. The whole time I'm pulling in on my back hand trying no fall backwards.
Edge less into the wind and let your back hand out and you will have less power in the wing, controlling you better. Should help.....
@@DamienLeroyRUclips I will give it a try thanks man!
@@RWalling12 sure thing!
Thanks for sharing, very helpful 👍
Thank you!
Ça paraît tellement facile quand je vous regarde Merci pour les conseils
I have a right unstable knee because of a injury (no more anterior cruciate ligament). Do you think it's possible to start foiling or would that be a no go. In other words, is there a lot of leg/knee/ankle rotation going with wingfoiling?
Hi! I come from windsurfing, and I would like to know if a harness is not necessary so as not to tire my arms. Thanks
Its personal preference. Some use them and some don't. It can be a little taxing on your arms but a nice work out as well. They make harnesses so it is more on how you feel and what you like.
@@DamienLeroyRUclips thanks!!
@@pilexaew Thank you!
Great video Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep Posting Video's!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you Hugo!
Excellent video guys - thank you! Quick question - does it make a difference how one's leading hand (top of strut) grip is oriented? I.e. fingers facing up towards you like a bicep curl position, or fingers pointing down? In the video, I see the leading hand grip you guys have is not a bicep-curl position. I assume it can have an impact on the wing orientation.
Its more personal preference but I would try both ways and see what you like!
Thanks guys, I hobe it helps on the Swiss Lakes
You got this we believe in you!
Thanks so much for your hard work! Question about going upwind… if you are overpowered, the wing is to big for conditions, is it harder to go upwind? I got blown away on a new wing but conditions were super harsh. I’ve been holding ground, but couldn’t that day. Thanks!
Brian, Yes if you are crazy overpowered it can be hard to stay up wind 100%. Also take into consideration sometimes the windier it is the ocean or water will generate some current also making it harder to go up wind.
Thanks guys
Thank you!
Nice video👍
A good video on technique. What I find missing in 99% of instructional videos is the weight of the ride, wing and foil size, and wind speed. I weigh in at 100kg what would this session look like if all rides had a handicap to weigh 100kg?
What is sadly missing is help dealing with the radical difference between the feel and balance of the friction of the board on the water vs the near frictionless feel when on wing. Everything else you discuss was easy within 90 minutes. The release balance is difficult and it got about 20 seconds of discussion
@damien leroy please, I am looking for an eFoil and there are many, but I don't want to overpay, nor end up with a piece of junk like the chinese 3.5k clones on alibaba. Can you make a video explaining a) how efoils relate to wing foiling (what skills it helps develop) and b) what to prefer and avoid when ordering one?
Wow that's a 50 min video! ahhhhhh. Well honestly keeping it simple an Efoil will teach you how to foil 100% and get you feeling comfortable on foil. The wing its a whole new learning curve all in itself. Then you put them together. The only Efoil's I would purchase are LIFT or Flite hands down. Would not look at anything else. My thoughts.... I love the LIFTS in my eye's superior!
What size board are you using here in litres
We used the 5'2 Code 88L in this video: wingfoilprocenter.com/products/code-wing-board?variant=45088422002992
To easy at 5:40 ;), great vid !
Glad we could help friend!
Whenever I get unsticked from the water it feels like I am being catapulted into hyperspeed, is this normal when on foil? It is really hard telling that from videos
100% the drag from the board or stick to the water is released and yes everything gets faster. Just know its coming and depower your wing or edge into the wind to cut down on the power with letting out on your back hand to take away power. Hope that helps.
I have a dumb newb question. Is “downwind” with or against the wind?
Direction the wind is going!
Any plans to come to La Ventana?
Love it there what a spot. Not in the near future but will keep you posted.....
lets goo
This is so frustrating. I've been out 10 times and only managed to rise the foil a couple of times a few seconds. Very hard to get that foil out of the water.
Its a hard sport you will get there! More wind in the beginning helps....
@@DamienLeroyRUclips any tip you consider to be the most important factor to do in order to foil? Thanks!!!
@@alejandrorossi7189 I would just say make sure you have enough wind. 17mph or more is great when you start. Lighter gets harder for sure...
@@DamienLeroyRUclips Thank you so much, all the best from Argentina!
@@alejandrorossi7189 Thank you!
And they still didn’t show how to get on the board I want to see from the surface to the board.
Check out this video:
How to get on your feet and direct the board | WING FOIL
ruclips.net/video/FJfdRteVhro/видео.html
Now that is schlogging
Au moins , vous reconnaissez que c'est pas évident du tout pour sortir le foil ....
One thing. I started off learning in wawy conditions. Don't do it. Flat water is the place to be.