How To Get Up On A Foil
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- WATCH BEFORE TRYING TO FOIL! This will hopefully save you some time, frustration, and hopefully put some of your fears to rest. I too thought it was scary at first but after teaching a lot of people to get up for the first time on a foil, I've learned some key steps to help riders have success on day one! Foiling is a different start compared to anything we've done behind the boat and is why so many people find it difficult at first. Remember, you are RIDING A WING NOT A BOARD! I know there are many different ways to learn how to do this but this is the way I have found the most success for most riders that are learning to get up for the first time.
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I bought a foil board earlier this summer and couldn’t get up on it for the life of me so I put it up in the rafters. After watching Shawn’s video I was excited to try it again with his super easy riding tips. Yesterday I was able to get up on it and actually foil. What an amazing feeling really is like nothing else!!! Thank you Shawn! Love everything you do and the way you explain it all! 🎉
Love to hear this KC! This is exactly why I put this content out so thanks for watching and thanks for sharing!! ✌️
Learning from The Best ,Thank you Shaun, First flight tomorrow afternoon fingers crossed.
So fun, and Shaun explained it all perfectly. Foiling is hands down our favorite thing to do behind the boat now, and this is coming from a family of skiers and surfers. Terrifying the first couple times, but stick with it and you’ll be riding in the surf wave before you know it 🤘🏻.
Party on! 👊🏼
Favorite part of this video is that your lake isn’t totally glass. Jelly. 😊
You are a brilliant explainer. Thank you for making the hard easy!
riding a foil is one thing but explaining the process like that is payday. Nice work and a great ambassador of our sport
So I thought I could foil pretty well starting on a floating board. Switched to a semi sinker and tried to start with the board sidways. Make it up then got catapulted many times! Can’t wait to try this in the water technique! Thanks for the tip!
Get a chance to ride it yet?
Shaun I have core memories from wakeboarding unleashed. It’s admiring to see your passion to this day. Hope to ride together somehow some way in the future and get some coaching too.
Your energy is infectious. Cheers!
That's awesome Cam! Hopefully we can cruise on the water one day 👊🏼
I had Detention back in the day (caught the reference BTW). Going for my first wakefoil sesh this Saturday, on my progression towards Wingfoil. Can’t join you on the lake, as I moved away from Orlando back in the early aughts, and now live in Barcelona. Thanks for the pointers, (I can see all the mistakes I was making, when I spent an afternoon trying to get up on the Air Chair, years ago) and the flashbacks.
Thanks for the tips Shaun! I struggle most with the lateral rolling of the board where it seems to have a mind of its own and usually end up getting bucked off one side or the other. I appreciate your insights.
Great question Jeff. It's a way slower turn/bank than anything I've ridden before. It's just very slow to turn essentially. BUT, it's very fast to climb so in that direction be sure to make adjustments in very small increments, but in the turns it's super super slow, so wait for it and be patient.
Really awesome 101 tutorial. Thank you. Going to try for my first time and these instructions are incredibly helpful
Another Detention Lesson 🤘🏼
Thanks for all that you have done for my progression over the past 30ish years!!! 🌅🤘🏼🫶🏻🌅
If possible, maybe issue a digital download$ of those old detention videos. Hard to find a VHS these days.
Be Well My Friend 🤘🏼
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Really good video and very didactic! Thank you for sharing your Knowledge!
Thanks! 🤜🏼💥🤛🏼 And you're welcome!
Thanks for the tips Shaun. I just got the UTE setup with the 28! (And one of your HL 150 wakeboards) from Performance Ski in Orlando. heading out this week to try it out!
Awesome John! Let me know how it goes! ✌️
Great tips! keep them coming!
For some reason for the first time in my life, I can’t stand up behind a boat. I had an electric foil way different feeling. My 11-year-old is out there doing better than me and it’s a pride thing now brother I’m gonna take your lesson right now and get after it.
Thanks for putting put all the great content. Can you make a video about tricks to getting up backwards on a wakeboard?
Now that's kinda funny bc the backwards start was my very first shot in wakeboard magazine back in 1995! I should def do a video on that so thanks for that. What's your proper name so I can mention you in the video if I do it? I can also just call you by your handle.
Good coaching Mr. Murray😍
Thanks MV 👊🏼
Thanks @shaunmurray for your great teaching vids! My wife and I are in our 50s/60s and just beginning to try out foiling…and really appreciate how clear you are with the details and hacks! Stoked to learn something new😊
Love the feedback! And to hear y'all are foiling!
Have watched a few "how to foil" vids, but this is the one I was waiting for! Especially after the history of foiling series. Love the way you explain it as you're actually doing it (shout out BBTalkin) and as always the tips and hacks are huge; hope to get to try one before the season ends. Curious on one thing - how do you know when you're about to breach? Is there a feeling from the wing or just learning how tall the mast is and not flying too high?
when the water is calm enough you can look down briefly and see the wing's clearance from water surface. Then look around and see how it feels/looks. Mid mast is a good place to cruise for starters but feels like you're a mile high.
Do you have video of how fast the boat is going at 'idle' when you are first flying? How many mph is it going? This looks so much more controlled than ALL the other learn to foilsurf videos!
I don't yet but you can begin to fly the wing around 6-8 mph on a 75 foot rope bc your speed from cutting is faster than the boat. You can fly the Hyperlite Booster 1300 and Commander 1300 around 8-9 mph going straight. People generally go way to fast on the start and makes them think foiling is scary and super hard. It's not. It's different than anything you've done bc it's a wing and we don't ride wings elsewhere.
Tks. Very good aproach. Foil is the yoga of watersports. You can do it for hours but I do suggest that everyone wear a helmet, safety first.
Helmet's not a bad idea. I use the Bb Talkin setup when I'm coaching people. Still have yet to have someone need the helmet bc the board hit em but doesn't mean it can't happen.
Pump and glide!!
Very good video
What set up would you recommend for a dirst time person
A board with more weight can help but a long fuselage can help too. There are about 5 major components to a foil. Front wing, fuselage, stabilizer (rear wing), mast, and board. All of those have something to do with how a wing flies. The Hyperlite Shuttle is what I currently put beginners on and Hyperlite is getting ready to release a shorter mast for teaching. You can see the different setups on Hyperlite.com
Thx Shaun this is waaaay harder than it looks.
You're welcome! But if you keep it slow, really slow, like really really slow, not as hard for sure
Can you make a video of you dock starting with the booster/shuttle because I don’t think it’s possible
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Fantastic. Get some straps on, like the wing foilers……I’m really looking forward to a strapped flip or raley, just like the wing foilers. It takes plenty of practise……but the tricks that the wingfoilers are doing just show that the ‘full airchair’tricks is possible standing. It just needs someone to push the sport behind the boat!
I absolutely hear ya there Jim 👊🏼
Nice video, was the one I was waiting for to decide on buying one, however the Hyperlite Shuttle set isn't available for purchase anymore in Europe...
I have an e-foil (for when I don't have a driver for our boat), how is the comparison to being pulled by the boat?
E Foil helps w the understanding of climbing, descending, and banking, but you lean pretty far ahead of the wing. But definitely is helpful in my experience.
Great video!
What’s the liters on that board?
Thanks
Not sure the actual volume but pretty low bc that’s what we’re going for to make it easier to learn on w the submersible start
Isn’t it better to start with straps or at least with one front foot strap? My 10yo started in straps on first session after 10-12 tries on my macrochip with png 1150. Foiling at speed about 5-6 mph
IMPORTANT! For those with wakeboarding waterstart experience it is easy way to get severe damage while starting in straps. Falling back with board going up between you and the boat is very dangerous as you fall far below the board level so feet extension is abnormal if you relax and count on your usual joint elasticity
When you say pads, do you mean straps? Or are you talking about no straps?
And that's awesome you're 10 year old is foiling! Kids can go waaaaay slower
@@Shaun.Murray sorry straps not pads - my English is bad (
@@Shaun.Murray the idea is that adult could (learn) water-start on big pump and glide (pump and dock) wing like axis png 1310 or sabfoil leviathan 1550 or gong Sirus 136. These wings will be super early planning with much less towing speed than 11 mph and have insane lateral stability
Im 6’2” 270lbs, should I adjust or deviate from the video based on weight difference? Any other tips?
Still the same concepts so you shouldn’t need to change too much other than maybe slightly faster at cruising speed. But that can change depending on your wing as well. Probably around 12mph to fly decently. The general rule of thumb is if the wing and board feel like they’re locked on rails when trying to move around, too fast, but if it feels like the tail is dropping and the nose of the board is going high, you’re stalling and it’s too slow. If you have a setup already, lemme know what it is and I’ll try to help w some of those numbers
@@Shaun.Murrayright now we are using the Ronix adjustable mast that we have set to 24”. Mast is mostly back, just a tad forward. This Wednesday I’m picking up a Hyperlite Magik Carpet
I tried to fly for days last summer. 66 really bad knee. Best I even did was to briefly surf the board standing. This year I am on a new knee, but I still can’t bend it much, so all this squatting is not on for me. 100 litre board with an axis 1150 (smaller board was really hopeless🙄) I started kneeling then stood. The turning trick sounds like it will help. How about an even larger board so I can start from standing??? Desperate to fly!! We sere using 5-7 knots as a speed. Any tips for me and my crappy knee situation appreciated folks!!
If you get a board with not many liters you could push it under water and bend your knees very little. Might even be able to do it with a board that has buoyancy but may be a little harder to get it under without the knee bend.
Is a ski rope better so it does not bounce you like a wakeboard rope?
For foiling it's not super important but honestly wake ropes are static (no stretch) and ski ropes are more dynamic (stretch). For the most part.
Finally ~ a tutorial video that starts folks on a long line! Great overview. I still recommend folks as they pump to waves further back, wear bright colors so other boaters can see you. Without a tow line out that far back, I do not trust other captains to see me so I wear bright orange or neon yellow dry-fit shirt over my CGA vest!
Good input G 👊🏼
Seems the most unstable position on a foil is going straight. Much better to pull against a 3mph boat and control the line yourself.
For sure! Left foot forward riders, cut left, almost 90 degrees, and right footers, go right. Makes a big difference
Can you teach me please
In person?