You have a team where everyone shows up to the new head coach conference. The team is united. Young. Together. Monty comes in, and more than half that team has been canned… young core is on the trading block. Players are reported not taking to the coach. Everything about this last 12 months is crazy.
Id trade duren for capela for the bench abd sign Claxton. Teams avg 126 pts against pistons, and 116 pts against nets. That tells me Claxton is the better rim protector
No it doesn't: I don't want them to sign Tobi on the decline, but that move would be the exact opposite of "kicking the cap space down the road once again" because Tobi is still an actual NBA player unlike Wiseman and Harris and others.
@@scottwickett1273 lol, exact opposite is overdramatic, bro. lol. tobias is an actual nba player but still doesnt move the needle. well, maybe a little. still doesnt count as a major improvement, which this team needs. tobias, = definition of an overpaid mid player. signing him to a big deal means pistons are giving up. lol.
@@ramen-3ats It's not overdramatic, it really is the exact opposite of spending the cap space on non-NBA players. And again, I don't want them to sign Tobi, it's just inaccurate to compare him to a washed corpse like Harris.
@@scottwickett1273 unfortunately, kicking down the road is not restricted to the likes of joe harris' corpse, but also applies to overpaid players who don't necessarily impact the team.
@@scottwickett1273 it obviously is. pay 30-40M for a mid player short term. maybe not to the degree of joe harris, but it is still hedging and not trying to improve. the exact opposite is signing players who will drastically contribute to winning. tobias aint it.
Is it just me or isn't SImone a younger better version of Tobias? Get Miles at under 30m/yr and resign SImone at 15-22m/yr - at least you have 2 wings that can play together and are different styles (Simone the floor spacer, Miles the downhill shot creator)
I kinda thing we should just go after Bridges and Tobias. The team is too bad to be picky. Also crazy hot take the dog pound should play off the bench. Duren, Stew and Ausar can bring energy off the bench. I think Cade would be better with a center like Segun. So let's get crazy trade the pick and Ivey for Young and trade Young to the Rockets for Green and Segun.....again crazy take.
I'm a diehard Michigan fan who definitely clowned on Miles when he did his dirt but shit happens...hes human like all of us...& im so sick of losing and i mean im sick and tired of losing... SO GO GET MILES! Throw the mf $$$ at him.
Haris is too old for a rebuilding team. And both are not what we need. We need a PF/Center to play aside Duren and give you outside shooting, 9+ Rebounds, Post Scoring, and solid D. You get this and let your core 4 decelope together and you will be a play-off team in 2 years or less.
@@pheralanpathfinder4897 The 4s and 5s who made the all-star game this season are all unavailable....except Towns, and nobody should want his contract.
@@scottwickett1273 I said play aside him, not replace. He can also make up for his lapses in Defense and get him playing better together protecting the paint.
@@LavaDesert And what my reply was intended to mean is that you can't start him unless you want to lose 60+ games again. (I also think your prediction that this group will make the playoffs in two years is wildly and delusionally wrong, more generally.)
Miles will be great and a top talent. However we need to figure out this team Defense. Because if we sign him, we will have 3 players that are the worst defender based on NBA ranking for 2024 for player defense. CADE Cunningham, Jaden IVEY, Miles. Bojan was also on this list. We will need help side defenders/rim protectors/shot blockers or this team will have no defense
If only they could play against WNBA teams, Miles could just beat the shit out of all of the players on the other team and put them all in the fucking hospital.
Hiring casey as president, big mistake. He wont fore nobody. We somebody with no emotional attachments to anybody and fresh ideas. Hard pass on head case draymond and cant stay healthy streaky shooting klay.
Outside of off the court issues that could or could not have an impact on everything , Miles would be worth the money and possible controversy but I like Harris but he's inconsistent and getting older and wants top dollars 😂
I have been telling everyone for the Pistons to make the phone call to Magic Johnson and see if he has any interest in this position. Office him full control and let him be in charge of hiring and firing. He is well respected in the NBA and had relationships with players in the NBA. If you want to show me you are serious about turning this Around go out and call Magic Johnson or Elton Brand or James Jones and make them force to turn the offer down.
Bridges, Flintstone certified, the Pistons need to embrace bringing the players from their own backyard home, I wasn't a fan of getting rid of Josh Jackson to be honest
I think the pistons should draft Alex sarr, him and duren, will be a nightmare at the paint, and you can trade Stewart for a wing like Rui or pokusevski. or maybe a trade for bolbol he is a big who plays like a wing
Sarr is a Duren replacement at center, and there is only a 14% chance they get him anyway. Also Stew is better than Duren; definitely trade for Poku, but I shouldn't have to give up the esteemed infectious-disease specialist Dr. Beef Stew.
@@scottwickett1273 I guess you've got it all figured out. Us peasants just don't know as much as you, right? You've got all the right answers, eh? Your opinion is ALWAYS correct, right? Gtfo with you pretentious know it all attitude man. Nobody thinks your ideas are good except you. All you do is sit on your phone and comment trash takes on Pistons videos like YOU'RE the official media guy or something. They're not hiring g you as the GM bro, get over it and get a life.
@@kwyatt261 This ain't about me, it's about the very worst GM in the history of the sport. (There are in fact a lot of people who appear to know less than me, yes.)
Statistically speaking, we should expect the 5th pick again, because the worst record has the best odds at the 5th pick
Correct!
I want Miles on this team! Brings talent, athleticism and attitude to this team.
And he from Michigan
@@Sportsologist-bc5eo And he beats women and is a disgusting piece of shit monster and so is anybody who wants him on their team. Fuck that.
Signing Harris as our big signing would be such a waste. We can’t be signing a 4th option on a good team and paying him 2nd option money
You have a team where everyone shows up to the new head coach conference. The team is united. Young. Together. Monty comes in, and more than half that team has been canned… young core is on the trading block. Players are reported not taking to the coach. Everything about this last 12 months is crazy.
I would love Nic Claxton
If we do trade the first pick, we should look to get a lower 1st round pick in return to take a shot on DaRon Holmes II.
Not just because they led us to a ship but Tayshaun Prince and Rip needs to be hired into this organization. Clean house and build an identity.
My optimism is shot right now… We ain’t landing none of the cats you mentioned 🤣🤣🤣
Miles Bridges what the team needs !!
We need to draft the best shooter in the draft no matter where we land
Hire Tayshaun Prince as GM , Chauncey Billups as Headcoach , Rip , both Wallaces and Hunter as assistants.
Id trade duren for capela for the bench abd sign Claxton. Teams avg 126 pts against pistons, and 116 pts against nets. That tells me Claxton is the better rim protector
This would be a good start, I like the way you think!
offering tobias harris, especially a short term deal at 30+M, means kicking the cap space down the road once again.
No it doesn't: I don't want them to sign Tobi on the decline, but that move would be the exact opposite of "kicking the cap space down the road once again" because Tobi is still an actual NBA player unlike Wiseman and Harris and others.
@@scottwickett1273 lol, exact opposite is overdramatic, bro. lol. tobias is an actual nba player but still doesnt move the needle. well, maybe a little. still doesnt count as a major improvement, which this team needs. tobias, = definition of an overpaid mid player. signing him to a big deal means pistons are giving up. lol.
@@ramen-3ats It's not overdramatic, it really is the exact opposite of spending the cap space on non-NBA players.
And again, I don't want them to sign Tobi, it's just inaccurate to compare him to a washed corpse like Harris.
@@scottwickett1273 unfortunately, kicking down the road is not restricted to the likes of joe harris' corpse, but also applies to overpaid players who don't necessarily impact the team.
@@scottwickett1273 it obviously is. pay 30-40M for a mid player short term. maybe not to the degree of joe harris, but it is still hedging and not trying to improve. the exact opposite is signing players who will drastically contribute to winning. tobias aint it.
Is it just me or isn't SImone a younger better version of Tobias? Get Miles at under 30m/yr and resign SImone at 15-22m/yr - at least you have 2 wings that can play together and are different styles (Simone the floor spacer, Miles the downhill shot creator)
Neither is going to make a difference for the Pistons
This the same way I'm thinking.
I get firing Monty but who would we target to take his place?
Great question I am not really sure depends on the new POBO
@@PistonsTalk Right we'll see I just hope we can get a quality guy in here.
Personally I think we need to stop going after lower tier talent and need to be more open to spending the cap space we have.
There isn't anyone to spend it on who wouldn't be described as "lower tier talent".
Rather trade for Wiggins or Mikal Bridges.
They would have to bribe me to take that Wiggins contract, his value is profoundly negative.
I kinda thing we should just go after Bridges and Tobias. The team is too bad to be picky. Also crazy hot take the dog pound should play off the bench. Duren, Stew and Ausar can bring energy off the bench.
I think Cade would be better with a center like Segun. So let's get crazy trade the pick and Ivey for Young and trade Young to the Rockets for Green and Segun.....again crazy take.
Stop advocating for a side of woman beating with your basketball viewing.
These reports are not credible because the decision maker who may or may not want those players hasn't even been hired yet.
You wanna know what else isn't credible? Opinions from keyboard warriors like yourself
@@kwyatt261 Why are you obsessed with me?
I'm a diehard Michigan fan who definitely clowned on Miles when he did his dirt but shit happens...hes human like all of us...& im so sick of losing and i mean im sick and tired of losing...
SO GO GET MILES!
Throw the mf $$$ at him.
Could we go after bobby portis to be in the isiah stewart place?
Why?
Zach I really like him
Like the charts.
Could have kept J Grant for 30M. So many bad decisions by Pistons. smh
Kirk Heinrich was no super star but he was a good player and if he is a better Kirk Heinrich I’d take him.
Haris is too old for a rebuilding team. And both are not what we need. We need a PF/Center to play aside Duren and give you outside shooting, 9+ Rebounds, Post Scoring, and solid D. You get this and let your core 4 decelope together and you will be a play-off team in 2 years or less.
What they need is to replace Duren in the starting lineup with someone who isn't a horrible defender.
An all star C/PF would be great for this team and for Cade. I'm not sure we can get one but it would cost us most of the Weaver picks
@@pheralanpathfinder4897 The 4s and 5s who made the all-star game this season are all unavailable....except Towns, and nobody should want his contract.
@@scottwickett1273 I said play aside him, not replace. He can also make up for his lapses in Defense and get him playing better together protecting the paint.
@@LavaDesert And what my reply was intended to mean is that you can't start him unless you want to lose 60+ games again.
(I also think your prediction that this group will make the playoffs in two years is wildly and delusionally wrong, more generally.)
Man. You guys are Certified Crazy! Talking about trading J.Duren. Duren development is hendered? LOL! He our 2ND best player. Duren is a monster!
Bro, everytime I read something like this it drives me crazy! He has untapped potential, as long as he works on getting there.
better change the coach first before getting rid of the young guys. they cannot be properly evaluated if monty is coaching them.
Most people don't like players that don't play defense
@@bingo8789 Not worried about his Defense at all! Give him some time. He will be one of the best defenders in the NBA.
what was our record with jalen duren as a starter again?
Sheppard looks also Kevin Heurter type player but smaller
Miles will be great and a top talent. However we need to figure out this team Defense. Because if we sign him, we will have 3 players that are the worst defender based on NBA ranking for 2024 for player defense. CADE Cunningham, Jaden IVEY, Miles. Bojan was also on this list. We will need help side defenders/rim protectors/shot blockers or this team will have no defense
If only they could play against WNBA teams, Miles could just beat the shit out of all of the players on the other team and put them all in the fucking hospital.
Hiring casey as president, big mistake. He wont fore nobody. We somebody with no emotional attachments to anybody and fresh ideas.
Hard pass on head case draymond and cant stay healthy streaky shooting klay.
Miles bridges over Tobias for sure**
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Sign Miles and trade Ivey for Trae Young. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Tobias bro i'm done with gores
better get rid of monty now instead of later. team is going to lose much more money with monty as coach instead of just paying him to leave.
Not a fan of Tobias.
Outside of off the court issues that could or could not have an impact on everything , Miles would be worth the money and possible controversy but I like Harris but he's inconsistent and getting older and wants top dollars 😂
Miles Bridges is a disgusting piece of shit, and so is anybody who wants him on their team.
I have been telling everyone for the Pistons to make the phone call to Magic Johnson and see if he has any interest in this position. Office him full control and let him be in charge of hiring and firing. He is well respected in the NBA and had relationships with players in the NBA. If you want to show me you are serious about turning this Around go out and call Magic Johnson or Elton Brand or James Jones and make them force to turn the offer down.
Trade the pick for Devin booker
Trading Cade and our first for Booker would be painful but probably the right move.
@@pheralanpathfinder4897 trade Ivey and r pick for booker not cade
@@pheralanpathfinder4897 But then it would just be Booker and no teammates instead of Cade and no teammates.
@@koryking6675 They laugh at you and hang up the phone. More than a dozen teams can outbid you.
Bridges, please do not get Harris. No Harris, No Harris, No Harris. Please no Harris.
Why do you love woman beating so much?
Trade first round pick to the Pacers for this Year's first, next year's second and Isaiah Jackson.
Give BI the bag. All these other guys are just guys
He is too, and he can bolt in a year.
I prefer players who can crack 65 games per season
Miles Bridges or bust in free agency
Tobias? Too short, too old, too slow, too...not enough of anything. Claxton? Same story but younger.
Claxton would be a massive upgrade.
Trading siren for claxton just for rim protection is a very bad idea.
If you mean Duren, it's actually a very good idea. He sucks because he can't guard you, we all hope that changes.
Bridges, Flintstone certified, the Pistons need to embrace bringing the players from their own backyard home, I wasn't a fan of getting rid of Josh Jackson to be honest
What about a trade for booker?
You can't get anywhere close to winning that bidding war. More than a dozen teams can outbid you.
Tobias Harris stinks. Cade needs shooters. kevin Heurter or Malik Monk is available. Trade this years pick
Who would they even trade the pick FOR?
Harris is a shooter. Not my favorite option but it all comes down to contracts and options
I think the pistons should draft Alex sarr, him and duren, will be a nightmare at the paint, and you can trade Stewart for a wing like Rui or pokusevski. or maybe a trade for bolbol he is a big who plays like a wing
Sarr is a Duren replacement at center, and there is only a 14% chance they get him anyway.
Also Stew is better than Duren; definitely trade for Poku, but I shouldn't have to give up the esteemed infectious-disease specialist Dr. Beef Stew.
@@scottwickett1273 Start Ausar Ivey Cade Sarr and Duren. Once the NBA gets rid of the three point line we will be cooking.
@@scottwickett1273 I guess you've got it all figured out. Us peasants just don't know as much as you, right? You've got all the right answers, eh? Your opinion is ALWAYS correct, right? Gtfo with you pretentious know it all attitude man. Nobody thinks your ideas are good except you. All you do is sit on your phone and comment trash takes on Pistons videos like YOU'RE the official media guy or something. They're not hiring g you as the GM bro, get over it and get a life.
@@pheralanpathfinder4897 Lol, well played.
@@kwyatt261 This ain't about me, it's about the very worst GM in the history of the sport.
(There are in fact a lot of people who appear to know less than me, yes.)
Bring Trae Young over here!