I like the direct drive but I like the build of the G-class version. Please Gibraltar look into making the direct drive with the sculpted pillar frames and enclosed spring tension system with the dial and all that jazz that the G-class version has!!!!
253usd on musiciansfriend right now. Just reserved one (shipping mid June) with the Simmons sd1200. I figure speed and lack of heavy force with something like this was a good set up for an electronic kit (since i'm a studio musician). Looking forward to accuracy of it. It should make poly-rhythms a breeze (tool fan :D )
the beaters are good for stuff like slide technique which gives a good punch under the feet, but when it comes to ankle motion and over 200 bpm single strokes, they become a bit too heavy, i bought the wooden beaters by danmar (used by many drummers like Gene Hoglan or Aquiles Priester etc...) and i gotta say it's night and day!
Why is the spring tension unit different on the direct drive pedal now? It's shown as having the dual cam system in this video but on every site, like musicians friend or guitar center, it's shown as having a basic spring tension unit? It seems the only way to have a direct drive single pedal, in the Avenger series, with the dual cam system is to either buy a double pedal and not use half of it or to buy the pedal and try and find the spring tension unit with the cam drive from the dual chain version.
I'm getting an education on this. Today 11-17-17, I view the video and see what seems to be a solid piece connecting the pedal to the piece on the action bar (sorry, don't know precise terms). Anyway, the vid shows solid pieces. A look on Amazon shows what looks like chain connector? Well, which is it - solid or chain?
Steve Freeman the metal linkage and chain are called drive mechanisms. Different pedals have different drive mechanisms to alter the feel of a pedal. The drive mechanism with the metal linkage is called a Direct Drive, and the chain version is called Chain Drive. The Chain Drive can also be set bought in a double or single chain.......the version you get depends on the feel you are looking for. The chain drive version typically gives you a strong, powerful stroke, while the Direct Drive gives you more of a less resistant, fluid, smooth feel. Metal players really like this style pedal because of the very quick response it has. From my experience, chain drive pedals are the most common pedal used. It all depends on the type of feel you are looking for.
+Kyle Heslin I wouldn't necessarily say that it is impossible, it is possible. There's just more than just the chain that you have to replace, you have to replace the mechanism that the chain goes around too.
justinmason100 I've seen dudes customize their iron cobras and speed cobras with direct drive mechanisms, it's definitely possible but it takes some effort
lmaoooooooooooooooo!!! Yip! You should see the Count Dracula version of the Pearl Demon Drive demo.. It's full on Nosferatu. meets Billy Corgan and like, a gremlin.
GibraltarDIY but is it as fast as this one. i recently tried out a strap pedal and i love how smooth and fast it feels. does the g-class feel the same? i really love that.
+jeebsa4m3 I have both strap and direct drive, i used the strap for around 6 years and it really has some kicking going on, it's very smooth, and it's easy to keep a nice fast beat on 1 foot (only) because it's pretty light and fluid, but it's hard to get to 200+bpm with both pedals because the double bass does'nt stay in place.. (when you start speeding up the hoop clamps just unscrew itself because of the vibrations, and it does'nt have enough kick back anyway).. then i bought the direct drive one, the pedals are longer, the whole thing is heavier, the hoop clamp is solid, everything seems well built, the fact that you can choose your beater/board angle separatly is just pure gold, it took me a few months to really find the perfect setting for my playing style and also to control it, and when you finally get it you ll make progress pretty fast, i can now play up to 220/230 if i am in good shape, i am a bit sloppy tho unfortunatly because of my left foot, (could'nt work with it because of my previous strap pedal) ! I would recommend it to anyone anyway ! it's affordable and as i tried many different pedals, it's a pretty nice one when you start with direct drive !
Has anyone with the direct drive intruder had issues with the foot board height adjuster on the cam loosening to the point where the foot board is bottoming out on the base plate? I love my intruder but I can't seem to remedy this. I'm debating on just having it tac welded into place if possible or drilling and pinning it in place somehow. I don't want to have to buy another pedal. Can anyone help?
'Seems like a nice imitation of DW'S machined direct drive though these are probably a lot cheaper?? Although can these be converted into two single pedals in your slave version.Since I can do both Pearls eliminator dominator (convert them I mean) A very nice looking pedal, but are these up to the speed task? I'm asking simply because I've never bought any pedal my feet hadn't tried, and I do like my pedals
I was hoping someone would ask this and I'm kind of dissapointed no one answered. I want to know this too. I have a single bass drum but eventually will be upgrading to 2.
Bought this pedal and nothing but problems, the direct cam won't stay in place no matter how much I tighten it which makes the pedals stick, I tried the advice with tapping the sides of the ppedal and I'm still having those issues big disappointment unfortunately I still love Gibraltar.
Out of all the DD pedals around, this is only beaten by the Falcons. I'd much rather have these pedals than Demon Drives or Machine Drives though, they're so tacky for their overpricing.
I don't use it myself but I've been doing research through RUclips and other reviews for a few months on these pedals and a few others. I just needed up getting a DW 9000 single pedal for super super cheap but before that I was really interested in these pedals and I've heard some pretty good things about them. Seems like they're good direct drives for the price. I've seen some really good deals on reverb.com for these pedals and other pedals like the PDP Concept Direct Drives and Mapex Raptor Direct Drives as well.
Brian Homan Thanks man. Ill check out that website soon. I have a Mapex 500 Double bass pedal and id like to upgrade it soon. I just dont want it to be super expensive.
Decent pedal but a disgusting design, I mean what is with that heel plate? You guys have a problem with footboards or something? Get rid of that chunk of metal at the back!
Y u no long board.
I like the direct drive but I like the build of the G-class version.
Please Gibraltar look into making the direct drive with the sculpted pillar frames and enclosed spring tension system with the dial and all that jazz that the G-class version has!!!!
I own this pedal and love the action on it, plus it's not expensive and a great value!
Didn't think I could like Gibraltar anymore!
anyone else see the slave beater move at 5:07 ?
ITS A GHOST
The video was cut
253usd on musiciansfriend right now. Just reserved one (shipping mid June) with the Simmons sd1200. I figure speed and lack of heavy force with something like this was a good set up for an electronic kit (since i'm a studio musician). Looking forward to accuracy of it. It should make poly-rhythms a breeze (tool fan :D )
please make a lefty version of gibraltar pedals!
gibraltar engineers must get paid more than at other drum companies! I agree with BIG D; lets have direct drive in g-class...I like magnets too...
Hey Brent! Really enjoy watching your videos!! You’re funny when you go off script and the shit you say it’s funny 😆
Is there a demo video with a metal drummer for this pedal??!?
Looks cool. I wouldn't replace my pdp boa with it though...
Any plans to make a long board version?
Does it come with a bag?
the beaters are good for stuff like slide technique which gives a good punch under the feet, but when it comes to ankle motion and over 200 bpm single strokes, they become a bit too heavy, i bought the wooden beaters by danmar (used by many drummers like Gene Hoglan or Aquiles Priester etc...) and i gotta say it's night and day!
thx for this info!
Why is the spring tension unit different on the direct drive pedal now? It's shown as having the dual cam system in this video but on every site, like musicians friend or guitar center, it's shown as having a basic spring tension unit? It seems the only way to have a direct drive single pedal, in the Avenger series, with the dual cam system is to either buy a double pedal and not use half of it or to buy the pedal and try and find the spring tension unit with the cam drive from the dual chain version.
"what am I,from Boston?"...😆🤖⚡
gibraltar please make some left foot version!
Make a long board of these please....
Hey guys a quick question. Can the beater weight be adjusted or do you have to just get a different beater?
No. you would need a different beater.
Stephen Fink no the new direct drive pedal can actually defy the law of conservation of mass and get rid of or create mass at any time
Beautyful!!!
It´s a pity for those who haven´t got the intruder, i love them :)
Now the direct drives are more affordable, but i´d miss some great features
Make a long board pedal with direct drive system
Next pedal should be a g-class double pedal with longboard and direct drive
Also with a more skinny beater
But does the slave pedal have a second drum key holder? Hmm? Fuckin' check mate Brent!
I'm getting an education on this. Today 11-17-17, I view the video and see what seems to be a solid piece connecting the pedal to the piece on the action bar (sorry, don't know precise terms). Anyway, the vid shows solid pieces. A look on Amazon shows what looks like chain connector? Well, which is it - solid or chain?
Steve Freeman the metal linkage and chain are called drive mechanisms. Different pedals have different drive mechanisms to alter the feel of a pedal. The drive mechanism with the metal linkage is called a Direct Drive, and the chain version is called Chain Drive. The Chain Drive can also be set bought in a double or single chain.......the version you get depends on the feel you are looking for. The chain drive version typically gives you a strong, powerful stroke, while the Direct Drive gives you more of a less resistant, fluid, smooth feel. Metal players really like this style pedal because of the very quick response it has. From my experience, chain drive pedals are the most common pedal used. It all depends on the type of feel you are looking for.
How about a lefty version? Please please please!
Hey Jeremy, sorry, no lefty version on the Direct Drive pedal. We only offer this option in the G Class pedal.
Surely it would be too hard to convert a chain drive to a direct drive would it? Just need to replace the chain with a piece of metal?
+Kyle Heslin I wouldn't necessarily say that it is impossible, it is possible. There's just more than just the chain that you have to replace, you have to replace the mechanism that the chain goes around too.
justinmason100 I've seen dudes customize their iron cobras and speed cobras with direct drive mechanisms, it's definitely possible but it takes some effort
i love having a highly produced cringe series catered to drums
that comment is so niche, I don't know who will get it....but I did for sure!
lmaoooooooooooooooo!!! Yip! You should see the Count Dracula version of the Pearl Demon Drive demo.. It's full on Nosferatu. meets Billy Corgan and like, a gremlin.
Which one is better, this one or the G-Class?
jeebsa4m3 The G class is a different style of pedal. Take a look here: www.gibraltarhardware.com/?fa=series&sid=689&cid=26
GibraltarDIY but is it as fast as this one. i recently tried out a strap pedal and i love how smooth and fast it feels. does the g-class feel the same? i really love that.
+jeebsa4m3 I have both strap and direct drive, i used the strap for around 6 years and it really has some kicking going on, it's very smooth, and it's easy to keep a nice fast beat on 1 foot (only) because it's pretty light and fluid, but it's hard to get to 200+bpm with both pedals because the double bass does'nt stay in place.. (when you start speeding up the hoop clamps just unscrew itself because of the vibrations, and it does'nt have enough kick back anyway).. then i bought the direct drive one, the pedals are longer, the whole thing is heavier, the hoop clamp is solid, everything seems well built, the fact that you can choose your beater/board angle separatly is just pure gold, it took me a few months to really find the perfect setting for my playing style and also to control it, and when you finally get it you ll make progress pretty fast, i can now play up to 220/230 if i am in good shape, i am a bit sloppy tho unfortunatly because of my left foot, (could'nt work with it because of my previous strap pedal) ! I would recommend it to anyone anyway ! it's affordable and as i tried many different pedals, it's a pretty nice one when you start with direct drive !
Intruders will always be the best double bass pedal for the money. R.I.P.
...can't wait for DW's new MDD, though, that's gonna replace my intruder.
Hope you have $700 to spare, because knowing DW's reputation for obscene over pricing, that's what it will cost you..
blica 1 I'm gonna get a single, the double is $1,000, and I'm past needing a double bass.
Has anyone with the direct drive intruder had issues with the foot board height adjuster on the cam loosening to the point where the foot board is bottoming out on the base plate? I love my intruder but I can't seem to remedy this. I'm debating on just having it tac welded into place if possible or drilling and pinning it in place somehow. I don't want to have to buy another pedal. Can anyone help?
how does this one compare to dw's direct drive or tama?
Feel will be different, pricing etc. You will want to check them out and go with what you feel is best.
'Seems like a nice imitation of DW'S machined direct drive though these are probably a lot cheaper?? Although can these be converted into two single pedals in your slave version.Since I can do both
Pearls eliminator dominator (convert them I mean) A very nice looking pedal, but are these up to the speed task? I'm asking simply because I've never bought any pedal my feet hadn't tried, and I do like my pedals
I was hoping someone would ask this and I'm kind of dissapointed no one answered. I want to know this too. I have a single bass drum but eventually will be upgrading to 2.
Bought this pedal and nothing but problems, the direct cam won't stay in place no matter how much I tighten it which makes the pedals stick, I tried the advice with tapping the sides of the ppedal and I'm still having those issues big disappointment unfortunately I still love Gibraltar.
But does it djent?
Marios Ziavros no its not a guitar
Erratic Boss It doesn't have to
Marios Ziavros I guess
Erratic Boss BTW it's a reference
Marios Ziavros Jared dines?
ONLY TIMES TWO!
I love my Direct drive intruder. I think this make a direct drive more affordable but we're loosing some great features,
Out of all the DD pedals around, this is only beaten by the Falcons.
I'd much rather have these pedals than Demon Drives or Machine Drives though, they're so tacky for their overpricing.
iDrumGod ::: You need hex key just to change the pedal height on Demon; not very convenient! Thx for your insight; will check on Falcons too.
This is the Gibraltar 492372720484793A7D dohicky 🙂
Brent's Wang
if anyone has this pedal i'm intrested to buy it suggest me somthing
Id look this up to see how much it is but i already now its to expensive.
SlipknotHU the single pedal is barely over $100 and the double pedal version is about $250
Brian Homan
Do you use this pedal? Or an Gibraltar pedal? Cause I'd like to upgrade my current pedal soon.
I don't use it myself but I've been doing research through RUclips and other reviews for a few months on these pedals and a few others. I just needed up getting a DW 9000 single pedal for super super cheap but before that I was really interested in these pedals and I've heard some pretty good things about them. Seems like they're good direct drives for the price. I've seen some really good deals on reverb.com for these pedals and other pedals like the PDP Concept Direct Drives and Mapex Raptor Direct Drives as well.
Brian Homan
Thanks man. Ill check out that website soon. I have a Mapex 500 Double bass pedal and id like to upgrade it soon. I just dont want it to be super expensive.
If you can't afford Axis, Trick Pro or Demon Drive, the get this pedal...
some people really like the sound of their own voice...
👣🙄 "some cost a lot.. "🥁😪
You can't see us you fucking Cringe Lord. Godamn, some companies are so out of touch, it's sad.
Decent pedal but a disgusting design, I mean what is with that heel plate? You guys have a problem with footboards or something? Get rid of that chunk of metal at the back!
Habla mucho y no dice nada...!
Not impressive compared to other pedal's....at all
How about a lefty version? Please please please!