The Heat: One-on-one with Roger Waters
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2022
- By definition rock and roll is primal, passionate and rebellious.
Bob Dylan, John Lennon and Bruce Springsteen are among the many who have raised their voices on behalf of political causes.
Enter Pink Floyd - and its founding member and principal songwriter Roger Waters - with a musical history challenging, among other things, consumerism, politics and war.
Waters left the band in 1983. His current tour is aptly titled "This is Not a Drill" - what he calls "part of a global movement by people who are concerned by others to affect the change that is necessary". The Heat recently spoke with him about that and some of the stories making headlines.
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Thank you to Roger Waters 👏
The world needs more people like him🙏
He has currage to stand up for the truth! It gives me hope that there are many pople out there that are willing to stand up against evil and hyprocraccy these criminal western Governement calling morallity and democracy..
Really? Roger is either a blatant liar or a wilfully ignorant fool. Israel never invaded Palestine in 1967. Firstly there was no such nation as Palestine and secondly Jordan invaded this contested area in 1948 and illegally annexed it. Israel took the "so called "West Bank" only after Jordan foolishly attacked Israel from the "West Bank" in 1967. To refer to Jews as colonisers is legally, factually and historically disingenuous. No wonder many people accuse Roger of new anti-Semitism.
Unfortunately, the world is FULL of ignorant fools like Waters, who, for some strange reason, hate one oppressor, but have way too much sympathy for a much worse one. His love of putin is borderline imbecillic.
1984 is an excellent book. But it should be specified at the beginning of the book : beware : this book should not fall into the hands of paranoid people. That's what happened to Roger Waters. With all the drugs he has swallowed in his life, he became paranoid and, unfortunately for us, he came across the only book that should not be read in his condition. He became a supporter of dicatorships and cleptocracies. This is the dark side of Roger Waters !
@@ruthjilani4760 courage, hypocrisy, people, morality, government.
Great interview!!! Thank you, CGTN, for providing a sane platform and allowing Roger to speak freely 😘
This interview is a true GEM!
There will be no music/art without honesty. He is fighting for both.
@@julie5188 In that case he would just be sailing in his yacht rather than facing threats from Ukranian ultra nationalists.
@@julie5188 An idea sparks the movement.
"I'm not alone" is a potential example of that.
Despite the barrage of secret campaigns to dumb down society, that is merely a construct of the Globalists with whom you appear to imply some connection or affiliation to.
It is not holding together very well, to say the least.
You fascinate me by your display much angst by typing in CAPS !!!
You just played yourself; you are one of them. Ministry of truth - down into the memory hole you go...🕳
2+2=5
@@julie5188 OMG Roger also happens to be on the MiroTvorets List on their (AZOV Nationalists)website.
Do they meet your preference or approval ? They are great people, I hear ☠
Bet I know your answer to that.😃
How about all the Russian rock bands who criticize Russian annexation of Crimea and Russia’s recent agression, taking tremendous risks by doing so ?
@@warmperson2007 Surely those Russian Rock bands are completely IGNORANT about the REAL GEOPOLITICAL issues happening in the world, ….. USA=NATO is the MAJOR DANGER for the whole planet !!!
On the other hand, those Russians, they would probably like to be westerners, … which is the case of many people from many countries, so, those Russian dudes are not an exception.
Very interesting train of thoughts from Roger Waters. Wish the world has more of this man who thinks well and should be a Lecturer on Diplomacy
@@julie5188 HE SPEAKS MORE LOGIC THAN YOU BOZO
Clown
@@tkno7938 Like Biden?
@@tkno7938 to bad. U are shallow
@@ReturnOfTheJ.D...look at facts and history. Biden.. doesn't know history. He is the only President that makes the current world in tension, war and high inflation. Joe has less life in this world but he will leave people in hardship
It is sad to know in these generations the big media does not tell the truth and that is dangerous. People have to find out the truth even if they have to travel and interact with the people to find out the truth rather than being an arm chair quater back. Thank you for Mr. Roger Waters and the heat for this great interview. 🙏🙏
The truth = reguritating CCP propaganda?
The guy supporting Putin's nuclear threats is not the arbiter of truth. Roger Waters is a pro-soviet pig.
Hats off to Mr Roger Waters.
You like nazis? Cause in my view this is what roger is all about, being a nazi
What an amazing human being - authentic, lone voice in much of USA, man of courage and conviction.
He is not alone with this stance, but no one is asking us what we think. Many USA citizens are victims of propaganda push on them trough mainstream medias.
are you in love with putin the same way roger is?
@@elektroskeptic481 are you in love with biden if you stand with west and us?
@@julie5188 You're into dysfunctional and abusive relationships then?
Absolutely!!!!!!
Great show and very enlighting. Thank you I wish a large audiance will be able to hear this Man expressing what is important to us all
Half the seats were empty when I saw him... he kinda got BTFO by the Goo Goo Dolls.
@@jaybyhop It is not about how many seats where aoccupied it is about reality. So many dont deny themself the truth because they have not the capacity to accept reality. That is a western illness
I know one thing, Roger Waters is not a sell out. He is a beautiful soul, a living legend and very well informed.
On Chinese state media, lauding China's imperial right to govern Taiwan and Hong Kong. Great guy.
@Rebel Poet that's a lie .
Excellent interview, so many truths and observations.
and he was allowed to talk without really any interruptions, which was good.
@@riboid Letting guests talk without interruption is the hallmark of CGTN and was also how RT did their interviews and panels.
Roger, the bridge over troubled Waters. Love the man, love the band.
That was Simon and Garfunkel! Yes, I’m being facetious.
He is indeed
@@mrdave777 😅
The thing is with Roger, is that he has lived a life which has made him wiser than your average person. We need more voices like him.
Ask all of his ex wives if he is wiser than the rest of us.
How so? Was all the acid?
It is truly great conversation with Roger Waters !
@@djknox2 "Strangers passing in the street, By chance two separate glances meet, And I am you and what I see is me" That`s the message, and has been for 50+ years.
@@djknox2 idiot d ! president Putin is the only Christian world leader & it's not communism ! nazi Zelinski Ukrainian azov nazis killed 14 thousand Christian Russians in Donboss
@@djknox2 Well Roger encourages people to be skeptical of everything in the western media, and urges you to deconstruct and verify it. Being against a million people dying in Iraq on a pack of WMD lies, or questioning why the media hasn`t got a thing to say about NATO pushing ever eastwards right up to the Russian border (despite Russia saying since 2006 that they regard this as an existential threat), or being against the extradition of investigative journalists to the US (to be locked up) for simply revealing the truth......I would say the "grown up" position would be to question these things. Anyway, it all comes from a position of "Us and Them" empathy.
@@djknox2 I think it`s taken as read that undemocratic regimes are anathema. I don`t think he would champion them. But one could say that the idea that you can spread democracy around the world like the US thinks it can without other countries pushing back, and that "real politik" doesn`t matter any more...and that all that matters is the distinction between democracies & authoritarian states, and that you can push nuclear powers into a corner without the possibility of dangerous fall-out, and collateral damage (especially to life and limb)...well THAT is pretty blinkered (immature or otherwise). You don`t have to agree with every viewpoint he has, but at least it opens up a thought process. Rock music is choc-a-bloc with technicians. I like my guitar riffs as much as the next....but a little thinking to go with it? No bad thing, surely.
@@djknox2 He`s not a communist (he`s not suggesting the State seizes the means of production!). He believes in caring capitalism. The US is the richest country the world has ever known, and yet half the country are poor. I`m sure he`s not the only one who thinks there`s something deeply wrong about that. The narrative presented is that this is unalterable. Given the political choices...looks like it is. Who preserves that....who is most to gain. Legitimate questions he`s been asking since Dark Side. Change that, you can fling the bathwater and still preserve that baby! 🙂
Definitely one of the best... without compromise !
Roger Water's a Living Legend! A modern day hero.
He's a barely living crotchity old man, full of pride, vengeful and an idiot to boot. I used to love Pink Floyd but Roger destroyed that joy, I almost vomit watching him seek worship. What the hell does he know about love?
Roger is a nazi, if you support him you support hitler as well
Not a hero,just an opinion with a platform,,,great guitarist,but way out with what is really going on ,,
😂😂😂 A living antisemite for sure
And a fascist... whoda thunkit?!
Roger is a living legend.
His music and his humanity will live forever. 🙏❤️🙏
Because Roger speaks truth. Ukraine now put Roger on their Kill List, if anything happens to Roger, Ukraine would be the enemy of PEOPLE of the world!
Wow... absolutely brilliant & great of Cgtn to get Roger Waters on their show. 👏👏👏
Can't give enough thumbs up 👍👍👍
💕🥰Roger Waters commitment to fairness and humanity. He is a good and genuine man who sets the standard for national artists.
British still hold reign over colonies with Queen as head of state.. more proof no British should talk about colonisation and the wrights and wrongs of it.
Funny how chinese use White colonial mindset towards west.. but it's ok when it is Yellow skinned colonial mindset of Chinese.
Showing a David Gilmour solo concert at the beginning of this Roger interview is priceless.
I heard PF for the first time in 1976, probably... I was 12 years old. I heard their album "Wish You Were Here" from a neighbor and it... literally blew my mind! I love and still listen to them! Thanks to Pink Floyd (...and some others) for my happy Soviet childhood! Well, and Roger, recently, for me it's just ... A Man with a Big Letter! Good health to you, Roger, and thank you for such a correct position!
💙
Great stuff... you are not alone MR. Rodgers ..not at all, you are and always will be part of who I am.
@@julie5188 yeah alot of so called Hippies on the side of censorship, war, and what ever the system tells them to think..
Roger Waters has been one of my heroes since college, and a hero for millions, if not billions, in the world. He has been both icon and iconoclast for so many decades, reaching the pinnacle of Rock n’ Roll with artistic mastery, eternal challenge on the envelope, fathomless philosophical depth, and an unwavering concern for humanity. He is the carrier of the Banner, and an icon in the truest sense of the word!
More importantly, unlike some other accomplished artists, he has proudly and stubbornly defied the most despised label in Rock n’ Roll, of being a Sellout!
“Perhaps, I am not alone!”
Profound!
Thanks for this interview of Mrs R. Waters. Thanks to him for those so realistic and sense answers.
Roger Water is a true legend, a critical thinker & man of principle. Rock on mate.
Free Julian Assange!
Some say politics has no place in art/music. Roger Waters’ using his art to speak truth to power is precisely why he’s my favorite musician alive ❤️ John Lennon is looking down from Heaven approvingly.
John would piss on his politics
@@acevintura5102 I doubt that. ALL art is political. EVERYTHING is political.
There is no heaven according to Lennon, "above us only sky."
@@patrickquinlan67 LOL, good point, although I don't think he gets to choose:)
@@acevintura5102 Aside from name and age, they're literally the same person.
roger said 'we dont need thoughts control' in the Wall and he truly meant it. respect to roger. 🥰
Thank you Roger you are 10000% right
A wonderful interview
It’s really comforting to listen to Roger Waters. Many of US as in WE THE PEOPLE THAT CARE AND PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT’S REALLY GOING ON know with certainty that we are not alone. 🙏✨✌️✊
I was at FTX Miami 2 nights ago. Hadn't been to a rock concert since Woodstock in '69. Am only a Roger Waters devotee from his courageous anti-war activism and especially on behalf of Julian Assange. I came away from FTX feeling hopeles after I realized how his fans seem to love his lyrical anti- establishment messages but continue to participate in "the drill" he has been rightly denouncing. If he is ever saddened by the lack of civil disobedience after singing his heart out for half a century, I wouldn't blame him. The stadiums are packed with fans but the streets are empty.
Good comment. Thank you.
Indeed, the corporate media creates quite an ensorcelling spectacle while the ruling class locks down the actual _material_ mechanisms that can change things...the old is dying and the new cannot be born, as Gramsci put it...
But as he also succinctly noted in outlining the limits to action against hegemonic domination...the best we can do individually is consider a vigilant pessimism of the intellect and maintain it with an optimism of the will...or something.
_“There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen.”_ - Lenin
_"The ultimate hidden truth of the world is that it is something we make and could just as easily make differently."_ - the late great David Graeber
Socialism or [continued] barbarism
Actually, if anyone cares, just because I have this in the 'ol clipboard and it's in my opinion one of the great political speeches that may spur some inspirational direction/hope or something, here's Eugene Debs's statement to the court when tried/convicted under the very same espionage act that now persecutes Julian Assange in 1918, merely for speaking out against WWI (just a year after it was passed, revealing how intentional this use was from the beginning), reminding us why the courage embodied by folks like Assange, Snowden, Ellsberg, Daniel Hale, et al. (not to mention folks like yourself and Waters who speak and act in their imperative defense) is so important and I think also importantly clearly articulating the simple and necessary transformation of society that we must *_demand_* at this point:
_Your Honor, years ago I recognized my kinship with all living beings, and I made up my mind that I was not one bit better than the meanest on earth. I said then, and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free._
_I listened to all that was said in this court in support and justification of this prosecution, but my mind remains unchanged. I look upon the Espionage Law as a despotic enactment in flagrant conflict with democratic principles and with the spirit of free institutions_
_Your Honor, I have stated in this court that I am opposed to the social system in which we live; that I believe in a fundamental change-but if possible by peaceable and orderly means_
_Standing here this morning, I recall my boyhood. At fourteen I went to work in a railroad shop; at sixteen I was firing a freight engine on a railroad. I remember all the hardships and privations of that earlier day, and from that time until now my heart has been with the working class. I could have been in Congress long ago. I have preferred to go to prison_
_I am thinking this morning of the men in the mills and the factories; of the men in the mines and on the railroads. I am thinking of the women who for a paltry wage are compelled to work out their barren lives; of the little children who in this system are robbed of their childhood and in their tender years are seized in the remorseless grasp of Mammon and forced into the industrial dungeons, there to feed the monster machines while they themselves are being starved and stunted, body and soul. I see them dwarfed and diseased and their little lives broken and blasted because in this high noon of Christian civilization money is still so much more important than the flesh and blood of childhood. In very truth gold is god today and rules with pitiless sway in the affairs of men._
_In this country-the most favored beneath the bending skies-we have vast areas of the richest and most fertile soil, material resources in inexhaustible abundance, the most marvelous productive machinery on earth, and millions of eager workers ready to apply their labor to that machinery to produce in abundance for every man, woman, and child-and if there are still vast numbers of our people who are the victims of poverty and whose lives are an unceasing struggle all the way from youth to old age, until at last death comes to their rescue and lulls these hapless victims to dreamless sleep, it is not the fault of the Almighty: it cannot be charged to nature, but it is due entirely to the outgrown social system in which we live that ought to be abolished not only in the interest of the toiling masses but in the higher interest of all humanity_
*_I believe, Your Honor, in common with all Socialists, that this nation ought to own and control its own industries. I believe, as all Socialists do, that all things that are jointly needed and used ought to be jointly owned-that industry, the basis of our social life, instead of being the private property of a few and operated for their enrichment, ought to be the common property of all, democratically administered in the interest of all_*
_I am opposing a social order in which it is possible for one man who does absolutely nothing that is useful to amass a fortune of hundreds of millions of dollars, while millions of men and women who work all the days of their lives secure barely enough for a wretched existence._
_This order of things cannot always endure. I have registered my protest against it. I recognize the feebleness of my effort, but, fortunately, I am not alone. There are multiplied thousands of others who, like myself, have come to realize that before we may truly enjoy the blessings of civilized life, we must reorganize society upon a mutual and cooperative basis; and to this end we have organized a great economic and political movement that spreads over the face of all the earth._
_There are today upwards of sixty millions of Socialists, loyal, devoted adherents to this cause, regardless of nationality, race, creed, color, or sex. They are all making common cause. They are spreading with tireless energy the propaganda of the new social order. They are waiting, watching, and working hopefully through all the hours of the day and the night. They are still in a minority. But they have learned how to be patient and to bide their time. The feel-they know, indeed-that the time is coming, in spite of all opposition, all persecution, when this emancipating gospel will spread among all the peoples, and when this minority will become the triumphant majority and, sweeping into power, inaugurate the greatest social and economic change in history._
_In that day we shall have the universal commonwealth-the harmonious cooperation of every nation with every other nation on earth_
_Your Honor, I ask no mercy and I plead for no immunity. I realize that finally the right must prevail. I never so clearly comprehended as now the great struggle between the powers of greed and exploitation on the one hand and upon the other the rising hosts of industrial freedom and social justice._
_I can see the dawn of the better day for humanity. The people are awakening. In due time they will and must come to their own._
_When the mariner, sailing over tropic seas, looks for relief from his weary watch, he turns his eyes toward the southern cross, burning luridly above the tempest-vexed ocean. As the midnight approaches, the southern cross begins to bend, the whirling worlds change their places, and with starry finger-points the Almighty marks the passage of time upon the dial of the universe, and though no bell may beat the glad tidings, the lookout knows that the midnight is passing and that relief and rest are close at hand. Let the people everywhere take heart of hope, for the cross is bending, the midnight is passing, and joy cometh with the morning._
@@Bisquick Thank you for posting this.
A commentary seems very good to compare with the American diplomats on this day. Thanks
it is a movement that is growing all the time and it is us ordinary people who are starting to see through the fog that they have fed us with.
Amen!
Amazing interview!!
He is the man of the this globe
Wish the new generations of the west listen to Roger.
@J L nothing wrong about commie. Just as democracy is not perfect, commie isn’t either. Respect difference cultures and ways of governing. Don’t make judgements. White is white and black is black and they are good as they are. If you love your democracy, have it. Not everyone loves democracy and it doesn’t work for everyone. Right to owning a gun might be good for you but it is not a good idea for another
Roger Waters is the Clarion Voice of truth and common sense! I was never a Pink Floyd fan, but Roger Waters is a Great Man!
I didn't hear much common sense.
Congratulations ' the heat ' on real news. Thanks Rodger for being you.
Julian Assange may be silenced but Roger Waters is his voice, more power to him !
Roger! You will always be remembered!! This is not the question of being right or wrong, but it is all about humanity without any regard to any form of ideology!!!
Real life hero.
Thanks Roger makes me feel like we're not alone that's wonderful let's keep going forward you're a wonderful man with the wonderful vision for Humanity
Thank you Roger Waters, we need more wise people like you speaking out. Great interview!
Thank you, Roger! You never sold out. So rare.
Roger is so right on what is going on at this time. I'm very impressed with his knowledge of history. He is now on the Kelenski kill list, so they must be so frightened of the truth. 👍♥️
This is true icon, thanks.
👍Balanced interview with hot button issues in Ukraine, Palestine and around China. You do live up to the name global network
hope CGTN develop well，we need different voices to know the real world，thank you for the hard work。
ROGER WATERS = LEGEND 100%
RIP Mort Sahl.... Roger Waters is the only one left.
Excelente entrevista, gracias por compartirla!
everyone should listen to whar Roger Waters is saying brilliant
David Gilmore did for thirty years and will never work with him again wonder why?
Pink Floyd changed my perspective 25 years ago, and Time was the song. Thank you Roger. Hero to the people.
50 years ago for the rest of us 😄
Huge Pink Floyd fan now. Kind of skipped over them in my music education, but have enjoyed diving into the deep cuts lately
Love Rodger Waters!
War has been in my family throughout generations. Grandfather 1st World War, Father WWII, Brother barely escaped Vietnam, cousin went. Son just escaped Iraq. Ex husband Vietnam.
I want peace. But peace doesn't make money for weapons industry.
We, the People are tired of war.
any allied WW2 veteran would agree with RW
A great interview, on Roger waters , the best lyrical writer on our time ..a seer of ideas ,time, and peace, shine on you crazy diamond 💎 shine
The ruling class need to listen to Another brick in the wall.
this man is one year younger than Biden just wow at the difference
Didn't know this guy before but I sure do now. ❤️👍
Keep researching. Dig deep into those beautiful songs ( us and them) and hear the meanings. It's pleasure and educational simultaneously
You are not alone Roger!!! Many of us feel the same thing.
Great interview. Roger needs to be interviewed by Russel Brand to reach a big audience.
Russel Brand kissing Klaus Schwab's top advisor, Yuval Noah Harari...are you sure that Russel Brand is what he is trying to make us see???
@@neckozeusa Brand is a woke
id like to see him interviewed by a right leaning person who knows their stuff, id think waters would likely hissy fit out and start ranting,
Why do you think that RB has a bigger audience than RW???
@@neckozeusa Interesting. Do have a link or a source for that?
you are not alone! i see more and more countries choose not to aline with the US imperialism!
Excellent interview. Thanks to both the gentlemen for such an informative session. Great show👍👍👍
Would be nice if the host not interrupting the guest too often and breaking up his train of thoughts.
How i wish there are more Roger Waters in this world. Anyway, I'm playing my part to debunk all the lies, misinformation & propaganda of the biased mainstream media
We can be....
You, we - are not alone. 🙏
This must and should be shared with everyone you know....
We stopped watching US media 8 yrs ago, CGTN-RT-Telasur only
He didn’t care he might put himself in Ukraine hit list by telling the truth , this is what I call courage 👍
A true humanitarian ❤️
lol
It was great seeing Nathan so happy to interview someone.
When I was just a little dude my mom took my best friend and I to see a Lazer Light show of 'The Wall'.
he is talking honest sense that any normal person can see and agree with. because of that he is the enemy of every western government and there are millions of morons who would willingly insult him or try and argue that he is wrong. its sad but its the reality that we live in. I used to be a teacher and sadly 80 per cent of the men and women i worked with entirely supported either the British government or the U.S government in their international policies (to the limited extent that they understood them at least). facts like this are why our society has so many morons who dont know what honesty, morality, fairness, justice, peace, respect, intelligence and freedom are.
Absolutely 💯
Love roger
Go Roger don't stop, many are behind you, just keep going!
Wonderful Chomsky reference at the end. Manufactured consent, indeed.
Thanks Roger for continuing the real message and consciousness of what MSM call Hippie blessings Peace and Love
real artist , real activist, real brave man ❤🇩🇿
What a good inteRview should be with someone who is a joy to listen to his reasoning, Thank you CGTN.
Well said Roger Water's !
Love you Roger. Thanks for your courage and concerns. You're the only one who stood for /try to understand Russia
Excellent, as usual.
I think he is so right, we are one world with divisions with each has it own identity in its culture. I just don’t understand why others are not seeing it. Great interview,
Roger Waters gives me hope because as he said I feel like "maybe I am not alone". He's clever, fair and outspoken! I respect and love him so much! 🥰
🌹❤we all love Roger Waters😙👍
Roger, I take my hat off for you. You are, not only brave (English man) but very intelligent man, not only in music but also regarding the current political situation, dictated by American deep state. People learn from you, as did I. Keep on and be aware.
Thanks Roger, you’re giving the voiceless a voice ❤️✌🏻🇸🇩🍀
Top Shelf Roger !!! KUDOS for staying on point, calm, direct... I felt an amazing "connection" with your "essence" when you said "Peace on Earth...Goodwill to men ...for all our Brothers and Sisters".... my daughter who is now 20 has asked me yearly " Dad, what do you want for Christmas ? ".... in the last number of years she adds "besides Peace on Earth and Love for all "... we truly are One... it would seem the Human condition is to fight for control....in relationships of all sorts right up to Countries.... I think the only "control" that is important or relevant is our "control over manifesting"....what is it we are creating with our thoughts ? Why does a concept of "Thought Police" even exist ? A giant leap forward for the Mother Earth is for each of us to "disconnect" from this digital representation of ourselves that we have come to live daily ( can you say Cyborg ? ) and connect with something or Someone that is "real" ( Presence pervades their life ) Bottom line.... war is not the answer.... Thank you for all you do.... Cheers
Большое уважение великому музыканту и человеку!!!
Thank you Roger for telling the truth 🙏🌎💙 one of few famous people who have the ethics and courage to stand up for the truth !!!! 🙏🙏🙏 💙
You've got to feel sorry that mainstream media avoids this guy because of his honesty.
@@julie5188 so you don't like his views, right?
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He makes some valid points here, I have the highest respect for him as an artist.
Thank you， Roger！👍
Thank you for this great interview!!👍
I don't feel alone no more Mr. Waters. Thank you! 🙏
How cool are you both! Thanks a lot.
Can’t wait to see him in a few weeks here in LA! He’s my favorite Ink Floyd member next to Richard Wright.
Anyone that thinks war and art aren't to be mixed, do not understand art. Art (literature, painting, sculpture, music...) is expression of, speaks on all aspects of human life including war.
Waters speaks so much sense, he is a real icon with a very good heart.
He made me cry, repect and love each other regardless of ethnicity, religion, language, party, etc... reminds to John Lennon looking for peace for all...