I Implemented GNOME's Best Feature in KDE Plasma

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @azenyr
    @azenyr Год назад +196

    Dude you are literally the UI/UX revolution that KDE has needed for so many years. We need more devs like you. Keep up the amazing work!

    • @ellanooliver6300
      @ellanooliver6300 5 месяцев назад +1

      today KDE is actually better than what he draw, is that because of him?

    • @pixl3ros3
      @pixl3ros3 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@ellanooliver6300 Yeah it is.

  • @emptyvisual
    @emptyvisual Год назад +207

    This is fantastic, Nicco. I admire that you're able to recognise great UX design and take inspiration from it. Everyone wins when the best ideas are shared.
    I cant wait to be able to drag windows between workspaces/desktops back and forth in overview! Excited to see more!

    • @no_name4796
      @no_name4796 6 месяцев назад

      So basically gnome loses, since they closed themselves to the rest of the world and won't collaborate with anyone else.
      Which makes sense, as you can feel it when using gnome.
      That and kde6 are the reasons i switched to kde

    • @PrivateLZG
      @PrivateLZG 5 месяцев назад

      Thats how open source works and it's great

  • @ffkkinos
    @ffkkinos Год назад +126

    That's awesome! I can name a few more things KDE could get from GNOME, bringing the best of both worlds is pretty nice! :)

    • @n.m4497
      @n.m4497 Год назад

      What would those be

    • @hrstwn
      @hrstwn Год назад +14

      ​@@n.m4497 better paddings and app design in general?

    • @WolfRites
      @WolfRites Год назад +20

      @@hrstwn You mean apps that can't do anything, and oversized padding that feels like a mental asylum? No thanks.

    • @sixunity1171
      @sixunity1171 Год назад +4

      @@WolfRites what

    • @hrstwn
      @hrstwn Год назад

      @@WolfRites have you seen Maui apps?

  • @syhan5730
    @syhan5730 Год назад +66

    Great job, Nicco. This is one of the two things that kept me from comfortably using kde. Its desktop management was just... not efficient, and I always went back to gnome as a result. The second annoying thing is kde's panel customisation, but apparently it's getting fixed too in the upcoming plasma 6 release. I'm really glad these issues are finally getting attention, thank you

    • @sharanpai4996
      @sharanpai4996 Год назад +4

      I have been coming back from gnome for the same reason too. KDE is just far snappier than gnome. Looking forward to this release

  • @azenyr
    @azenyr Год назад +7

    Here's a cool idea to the problem at 3:40 - have the desktop "slide down" a bit enough to show the search results when you start typing, and make it "slide up" again if you clear the search field. Don't forget to make the search results "fade in" and out at the same time when the desktop slides down or back up. Keep the fluidity levels up! :D

  • @TheA_Gamer554
    @TheA_Gamer554 Год назад +21

    this was one of your best edited videos, even if there were some mistakes where the B-roll doesn't match all of the animations were super visual and you explained everything super well

  • @jeanvbarros
    @jeanvbarros Год назад +3

    Looking forward for this new overview. Great job, sir

  • @Joss0051
    @Joss0051 Год назад +1

    Looks Beautiful, thanks for all the hard work. Warm Regards, Joseph

  • @aaron_the_penguin
    @aaron_the_penguin 4 месяца назад +1

    Wow, this is amazing, there's a few things of KDE that keep me on GNOME, and this was one of them! Keep it up!
    One thing that I would love to see is a way to keep a panel shown when in the overview, like how GNOME shows the app bar or whatever its called below the desktops

  • @bsmarques
    @bsmarques Год назад +6

    Other OS: "No, you can't copy my style"
    Linux: "I've liked what you did and I copied it"
    "Cool, have fun"

    • @no_name4796
      @no_name4796 6 месяцев назад

      You should say linux minus gnome.
      I don't really think it's possible for a gnome dev to see anything not gnome and say "i liked its design" lol

  • @BendyLemmy
    @BendyLemmy Год назад +11

    This would be huge. I use a mouse gestures, so I have one for the grid, another for overview, another for present windows on the current desktop...
    I do hope you'll not only focus on touchpad users, though, sometimes it seems that way - even when I use a laptop I have a mouse in my pocket.

  • @ryugahareame2994
    @ryugahareame2994 Год назад +11

    Thank you, Both the animation and workflow looks amazing. Hope the merge request goes smoothly. One feature request, will it be possible to rearrange the virtual desktops. Gnome lacks this, so it will make overview even better.

  • @sebastianperez6124
    @sebastianperez6124 Год назад +4

    One thing I miss from the overview is how Gnome Overview applies image filtering to the window images so they don't look pixelated even when the image gets small, this is specially noticeable when viewing a spreadsheet or a text editor using a standard dpi display

  • @CyborgZeta
    @CyborgZeta Год назад +7

    I donate to KDE. Plasma and KDE are a credit to the Linux community.

  • @pythoner6831
    @pythoner6831 Год назад +8

    This is cool! I've been playing with KDE a little (I'm a long time gnome user), and the big thing I felt was lacking on the KDE side was the way the gnome overview is "unified", e.g. the overview search is effectively an application launcher. I like having the one key to get at the application launcher, but also being able to see all the open applications too.

    • @slavko321
      @slavko321 Год назад

      you have krunner (alt-f2) that does that, you can even choose plugins it uses, from applications to run, calculations, open windows , ...

    • @quick-bytes
      @quick-bytes Год назад

      Same brother!!

  • @misterstif
    @misterstif 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for your work! 🔭

  • @alexisfinaris2051
    @alexisfinaris2051 Год назад +38

    If it hit feature parity with Gnome I will seriously consider switching. Amazing work!

    • @HrHaakon
      @HrHaakon Год назад +5

      Oh, but that's easy, just do nothing and GNOME will remove features until parity is achieved... :p

    • @folksurvival
      @folksurvival Год назад +2

      @@HrHaakon That would be the opposite of parity because KDE is feature-rich and continually adds more features.

    • @Cenot4ph
      @Cenot4ph 7 месяцев назад

      feature parity? you have things backwards, Gnome needs to do a lot of work to come even close to KDE

  • @Hzuuuu
    @Hzuuuu Год назад +2

    Haven't watched your videos in a long while but I still read the weekly KDE changelogs. The production value is looking crazy now. Really awesome.

  • @noam65
    @noam65 Год назад

    I am a recent subscriber. I'm happy finally to have access to a developer, who is willing to shed light upon why certain choices were made, and who can give an honest appraisal of their product, including things that need improvement. This kind of humility is rather rare (unfortunately) and refreshing. Thank you.

  • @DreamingCodes
    @DreamingCodes Год назад +3

    That is fantastic. As soon as this is merged I'm going to switch back to KDE

  • @lyoneel
    @lyoneel Год назад +3

    love to see this kind of improvements, as Plasma user I appreciate a lot what you do.

  • @sandarulj
    @sandarulj Год назад +2

    Fantastic! The overview and 1:1 touchpad gestures is why I've been using Gnome on my laptop. It's just so efficient and feels natural. Now with this implemented in KDE, I might even switch!

  • @deancode
    @deancode Год назад +1

    As a long time Gnome user I am actually really excited for this new KDE Overiew layout.

  • @pinkorcyanbutlong5651
    @pinkorcyanbutlong5651 Год назад +5

    really nice, looks amazing
    tho the main thing I think it misses from the gnome overview, is the dock, on gnome you can simply drag an app from the dock or app grid to a desktop to open a window there (without closing the view), which I guess would be quite harder to do in plasma as the overview and launchers are separate components

  • @xeiAiex
    @xeiAiex Год назад +1

    This looks amazing! I can't wait to have it. Thank you for all of your work and effort on Plasma!

  • @JanNeumann
    @JanNeumann Год назад +3

    This is amazing. I'm just thinking that you didn't mention the ability to use the mouse scrollwheel to switch between which desktop is the one shown in the overview. Sometimes you have neither a touchpad nor a touch screen, you know :)

  • @MrDominosify
    @MrDominosify Год назад +7

    Incredible work! I think this is what will make me switch to KDE! On question though - is it possible to make any work on customizing what TouchPad gestures do? I find it strange, that KDE, an extremely customizable DE, does not have any way to customize gestures.

    • @MrWorshipMe
      @MrWorshipMe Год назад +2

      I agree

    • @Mfn77
      @Mfn77 Год назад +1

      Definetely. If there could be at least just a finger number setting that would be enough for me.

  • @BrokenKanuck
    @BrokenKanuck Год назад +1

    Incredibly grateful for all the work you put in, it makes such a difference!

  • @MisakaMikotoDesu
    @MisakaMikotoDesu Год назад +1

    Glad at least one person understands details like this. Please don't get poached by Apple

  • @rafael_tg
    @rafael_tg Год назад +1

    Very nice. Loved the new Overview. Which version of kde is it expected to launch?

  • @ChrispyNut
    @ChrispyNut Год назад +1

    Awww, was hoping it was dragging [top] panel grabs and drags applications.
    Yes, I'm still seriously missing that feature from Lattedock.

  • @williamevans6830
    @williamevans6830 Год назад +1

    I too would be shouting this change from the rooftops you are a legend this is a wonderful change to KDE. Gnome and KDE are amazing.

  • @dashmeshsingh564
    @dashmeshsingh564 Год назад +5

    Awesome work!!
    I have one question though, could it be possible that the close button on the windows in the overview appears on the same side as on the titlebar?

  • @samuelitooooo
    @samuelitooooo Год назад

    This is one of two of my favorite things about GNOME, the other being the combined notification and calendar widget you get when you click the date in the center; that feels intuitive and looks great IMO. I also like the look of Libadwaita.

  • @rishabhsharma2188
    @rishabhsharma2188 Год назад +4

    Now the only feature left in the desktop overview is the ability to increase the size of desktop bar. The default size is a bit smaller.
    Btw congratulations for your achievements.❤

  • @redhatdarrow66
    @redhatdarrow66 Год назад

    Thank you! Your work is making KDE Plasma remarkable!

  • @HPerrin
    @HPerrin Год назад +1

    I tried to switch to KDE recently, and the lackluster overview is a big reason I couldn’t stay. The overview is so integral to my workflow. Once your work is in, I’ll have to try again. :)

  • @gizzmoguy.
    @gizzmoguy. Год назад +2

    This is awesome work dude. Thank you for all what you do.

  • @rouddy7448
    @rouddy7448 Год назад +6

    I really like this feature. The current solution is just horribly implemented and there is absolutely no way to turn off the touchpad gesture or remap it to something else.
    Will it have an option to disable hiding the taskbar? There is no need to hide the taskbar, and in GNOME it is possible to open pinned applications or applications in the appmenu by simply dragging them to the desired desktop

  • @Jopekos
    @Jopekos Год назад +1

    Great news 👏👏👏👏 with Nicco's ideas kde Plasma will evolve much more.

  • @dreamcat4
    @dreamcat4 Год назад +1

    worth it yes! thank you for those efforts. indeed very much appreciated

  • @yusufduzgun1891
    @yusufduzgun1891 8 месяцев назад

    Thanks from Türkiye 🇹🇷 touchpad swipe workspace switch feels amazing.

  • @v0xl
    @v0xl Год назад +4

    amazing work!
    that kind of gesture was always my favorite part of gnome!
    (really made me want to switch to gnome despite my craptop I currently have my linux install on being barely good enough to handle xfce)

  • @mitya
    @mitya Год назад +1

    Thanks, this looks really great and exciting!

  • @MariuszWoloszyn
    @MariuszWoloszyn Год назад

    When using grid display both! At top and on left! It makes sense and let's you orient perfectly.

  • @s9209122222
    @s9209122222 4 месяца назад +1

    Could you also implement dynamic workspaces?

  • @Maverick5x
    @Maverick5x 2 дня назад

    Thank you for this. The only thing i am missing form Gnome is workspace on primary or in other WMs, monitor-specific workspaces (virtual desktops)

  • @Gregorius421
    @Gregorius421 Год назад

    Took and idea and made it even better 👍. And I love the enthusiasm with which you explain the technical solutions and the journey to get there❤

  • @Knifey_ZA
    @Knifey_ZA Год назад

    Nicco, thank you so much for all the work you do. This looks amazing and I'm really looking forward to switching over to KDE as my daily DE.

  • @MansakeLabsOfficial
    @MansakeLabsOfficial Год назад

    I've wanted this exact feature for a long time, thank you!

  • @oscs4556
    @oscs4556 Год назад +2

    Plasma already got a grid view - ctrl+f8. To me, the overview in plasma works very similar to macOS Mission Control.

  • @TKRayder
    @TKRayder Год назад +1

    This is awesome! Great job!
    I rarely use virtual desktops on my desktop-computer though, but I use activities. The activity bar/switcher could use a similar amount of love! ;)

  • @nekomantia
    @nekomantia Год назад +1

    Just today I saw a video about how gnome has combined overview ability with their beautiful app launcher (where one can once open launcher and drag all needed applications to different desktops to start work).
    Thank you for what you do for KDE!

    • @orbatos
      @orbatos Год назад +1

      I primarily use Gnome and the application launcher implementation is the worst part of the overview. It is buggy and slow on many systems and KDE actually has a similar launcher with superior behaviour, I just need it added to what we are seeing here.

    • @nekomantia
      @nekomantia Год назад

      @@orbatos Thanks for your reply! I have installed KDE so everything I know about gnome is only from youtube videos xD I never tried it at real life. So thank you again for the info. But! What KDE launcher do you mean?

  • @sammywammy6116
    @sammywammy6116 Год назад +1

    I hope this will be ready for Plasma 6!

  • @banzooiebooie
    @banzooiebooie 8 месяцев назад

    I love you 🥰 , I was missing this in KDE then saw "nice, they copied Gnome"...you did!🤟 Thanks a lot!

  • @trachinusdraco
    @trachinusdraco Год назад

    Thank you for your efforts. Switched back to kde few months ago.

  • @StephanSchutter
    @StephanSchutter Год назад

    Another really good thing to work on would be to make the online accounts control panel actually do something? Like make contacts appear in the contacts app, email being set up, to do showing up on the to do app etc.

  • @samganji6987
    @samganji6987 Год назад

    Great changes. Yes, please instead of clearing the desktop on search, add a transparent layer/box

  • @saintswolfgang_
    @saintswolfgang_ Год назад +1

    Gnome has also a feature where the main monitor only has the virtual desktop so, the second or so monitors don't change to a different virtual desktop. just the one you want to.

  • @Comrade2056
    @Comrade2056 Год назад

    Great job, I've been waiting for these features for a long time.

  • @HikingFeral
    @HikingFeral Год назад

    I dual boot Kubuntu with Gnome on Debian so I add a few extensions to vanilla gnome. I love the multitouch gestures to go to the overview and paired with a window panel similar to KDE and an auto hiding left panel like Ubuntu it's buttery smooth workflow. Managed to fully theme Gnome too just like KDE. Got to have my Sweet theme and Candy Icons.

  • @mr.nobody4672
    @mr.nobody4672 Год назад +2

    Dear Nicco, i want to say that as fellow Linux users we need more developers like you. Heck you're so good you made me switch to kde from my riced Gnome de. And i'm LOVIN' IT! Please keep up the good work😊
    Edit: I use Arch btw.

  • @dibyanshmohanta752
    @dibyanshmohanta752 Год назад +1

    Great work😍😍😍. Overview was the only thing forcing me to stay in GNOME .

  • @vivianmason8867
    @vivianmason8867 Год назад +1

    This is looking fantastic! I think with this that when kde 6 kits ill swap back from gnome

  • @df3yt
    @df3yt Год назад +3

    Great stuff - you are right about it being the best Gnome feature. Please test on multi mon setups too as this is where KDE often has bugs

    • @niccoloveslinux
      @niccoloveslinux  Год назад +7

      I only have one monitor, I'm afraid. Would you be up to donating me a second monitor?

    • @psamaras
      @psamaras Год назад

      @@niccoloveslinux That's a petty answer, IMHO. A TV, or a cheap monitor, is your choice to make.
      Well, if GUI development is not including MULTIPLE MONITORS and ACTIVITIES, how well would this development suite to a DE project? Rhetorical question, I guess...
      Nevertheless, IMHO, you should first make some design decisions, like replacing workspaces with ACTIVITIES, or the opposite, or deprecate Activities. Since you like Gnome design decisions, they use Activities as the name for both a workspace and a monitor.

    • @glidersuzuki5572
      @glidersuzuki5572 Год назад

      ​@@psamaras how is that a petty answer? The devs need support too. It's easy to just keep demanding features without putting in any effort.

    • @psamaras
      @psamaras Год назад

      @@glidersuzuki5572 Nobody can demand anything from an Open Source dev. OTOH, Nicco suggests donations. Then, in some way, he has a (minor) profit. How he will choose to spend that income is absolutely a personal choice. He can choose to buy food. He can choose to buy a microphone for the videos. He can choose to buy a cheap monitor for the most show-stopper bug in Plasma. If he was not accepting donation, there would be no reason to call the answer as "petty". If this is not understandable, I am sorry. I am with Open Source and defending it, using it, promoting it, also creating software.

  • @MartinAhlman
    @MartinAhlman Год назад +1

    Great work, even if I don't use KDE. I like it's fast development, and your work is amazing. I'm just more at home with the way Gnome is working, or more "obscure" ways of interacting with my computers. Gnome for work, experimenting for home.
    Keep up the great work!

  • @rubaiyat04
    @rubaiyat04 Год назад +2

    This is huge!! Thank you!

  • @N30Dr4g0n
    @N30Dr4g0n Год назад +1

    As much as I admire what you've done, The desktop cube that was ported over from Compiz was an awesome way of doing the same thing. I hate, HATE, that KDE decided to get rid of it. I used that for my default desktop switcher for years because I liked the way it worked. And now I can't because some KDE developer decided wrongly that no one uses that feature.

  • @BehradJi
    @BehradJi Год назад

    That is what I wanted for a long time, the overview in gnome is what makes me switch to gnome every once in a while, but after 30 minutes miss all the kde plasma features and switch to that again!

  • @keyboard_g
    @keyboard_g Год назад

    Its interesting that such big feature sets get merged together. I would expect all the different things that you covered to be their own bespoke merges.

  • @PedroLucasbp
    @PedroLucasbp Год назад +1

    Great Job Nicco! 🎉😊

  • @JabberGabber
    @JabberGabber Год назад

    Bravo!
    Please, make Plasma panel auto-resize width on content change. From there we can get rid of that old clunky editing bar by simply adding an on/off switch. Neat!

  • @sjoervanderploeg4340
    @sjoervanderploeg4340 Год назад

    I have the same thing, if I light a fire I can't stop it... then when you finally made your way to bed you run downstairs to write "one more line"!

  • @iusearch
    @iusearch Год назад

    Father Niko... You are amazing!!!

  • @playerone2772
    @playerone2772 Год назад

    Would love to see the zoomed out desktop be more rounded like in Gnome. And to round out the search bar and desktops at the top. And maybe create a blurred background that matches your wallpaper, that would look really nice. And of course, keeping your taskbars on the overviews so you can drag applications to the desktops. Then Gnome's best features wouldn't be exclusive anymore.

  • @zombiewafle502
    @zombiewafle502 Год назад

    I've been using Gnome for a while now, so I'm used to the gestures and it's workflow. So just one thing, I would love if the gestures are more like: 3-fingers to scroll between open programs and 4-fingers for scrolling between virtual desktops. But so far I love the animations and the improvements, during the time I was trying other things!

  • @orbatos
    @orbatos Год назад

    Add the ability to place a panel in the overview and I'm sold. I don't need it in the regular view.

  • @ekm507
    @ekm507 Год назад

    awesome!
    will be also great if you add an option to change size of virtual desktops thumbnails on overview.

  • @whiskeylinux
    @whiskeylinux Год назад +2

    Very cool stuff! Keep up the great work. :)

  • @matbru9193
    @matbru9193 Год назад +1

    This is soooo cool. Great work

  • @dermond
    @dermond Год назад

    thats really a nice work, i would now considarate switching to plasma if this is implemented on plasma 6

  • @maksympletiuk5311
    @maksympletiuk5311 11 месяцев назад

    I like overview, that's cool feature and very useful. But KDE is over-complicated things with so much stuff concerning managing virtual desktops and so on... It contains: one grid view of active windows, grid view of desktops, another view of desktops, activities, and now overview grid... When actually I think there should be probably only one that combine all of it. The Gnome overview is just incredible and I definitely want similar (or even better) feature on KDE Plasma!
    I really hope you will make what you planned and its be awesome, practical and more intuitive (or better to say user-friendly).

  • @xzorandar
    @xzorandar Год назад

    This is awesome and my one issue with KDE. That the workflow around workspaces / desktops are not intuitive. Can't wait for v6!

  • @russjr08
    @russjr08 Год назад

    This looks absolutely stunning!

  • @pedro.arce.m
    @pedro.arce.m Год назад

    13:00 it should close the overview if youre already on the desktop that you click (like in gnome)

  • @frankysour
    @frankysour Год назад

    Nicely done! Really beautiful works 👍

  • @hariharan4059
    @hariharan4059 Год назад

    3:43 you can change that like rofi like a rectangular box without any background blur IMO

  • @iodreamify
    @iodreamify Год назад +1

    Thank you for your hard work!

  • @lgninjalo
    @lgninjalo Год назад

    This is going to be a game-changer for my surface :)

  • @playerone2772
    @playerone2772 Год назад

    Now if you could keep the dock(s) in the overview and drag apps into the different desktops that would be everything

  • @MichaelToddFutureTodd
    @MichaelToddFutureTodd Год назад

    Brilliant, I was hoping the overview would be improved for Plasma 6.

  • @DennisSchmitz
    @DennisSchmitz Год назад +2

    Gnome's overview is better than MacOS' even since it also acts as a search.

  • @NicoDsSBCs
    @NicoDsSBCs Год назад +2

    Hi Nicco, great job with what you're doing. I'd love to see how you do all that. I'm an Armbian member/dev and I also make YT videos about Armbian.
    Armbian is Ubuntu and Debian based Linux for ARM single board computers.
    Our problem is that our devs knowledge often is limited to CLI/U-BOOT,/Kernel config... since most hardcore devs never use a desktop.
    I try to fix small things, but my knowledge doesn't go that far in desktop configuration. Biggest problem we've got is KDE. It is very buggy. This because of an issue between panfrost GPU driver and KDE. I've got no clue how to start fixing it all. We do have Gnome, XFCE4 and cinnamon working well. But I'd love to have KDE in shape too.
    If you know someone who would be willing to spend some time on this. I can arrange hardware when needed. There is also Armbian for x86, but that doesn't have the panfrost issue.
    Have a nice day, cheers. NicoD

  • @beshralghalil
    @beshralghalil Год назад +1

    Man!!, You're really making KDE Plasma the best desktop.

  • @mohsenmansuri8170
    @mohsenmansuri8170 10 месяцев назад

    The colored part of the Dolphin window should include the left column and the file manager and icons

  • @MyurrDurr
    @MyurrDurr Год назад

    I love this new editing style :D

  • @diegodario1400
    @diegodario1400 Год назад

    Congratulations, great work man!

  • @johanberg5156
    @johanberg5156 Год назад

    This is fantastic news for Plasma! While you are at it could you please center the actual desktops in of the desktop row at the top. I think the + sign should not be part of the desktop row. I hope you understand what I'm saying.
    Thanks for a great show!

  • @Perfinstals
    @Perfinstals Год назад +1

    In the Desktop Overview why don't you dedicate a 1 cm line to the activities by putting the name and an icon ?to combine Activities, virtual desktops and gliglia in the Overviews ?

  • @mooseloose-r6e
    @mooseloose-r6e Год назад +4

    This is amazing! I was willing to learn qml to try and recreate this myself, but I never got started.
    Also suggestion/help: I found myself using the gnome overview to access the gnome panel with the quick settings whenever I was on a fullscreen video/app to quickly change volume or brightness.
    Is there any way I can help to add the plasma panel to the plasma overview (atleast as a toggle in the settings). I assume this would have it's own problems since the plasma panel is infinitely customizable and having to account more than one panel might be a problem. I did see the plasma panel in the plasma overview in earlier versions (5.24 I think) but was sad to see it go in the later versions :(

    • @turbovlad
      @turbovlad Год назад

      This

    • @vari4bled
      @vari4bled Год назад

      @@turbovlad Yes, the panels!!! that's a big part of Gnome overview and is always left out when people are talking about Plasma overview.