Good to see mortar maggots still at it. Was a crewman on the M-30, 4.2" (107mm) heavy mortar back in the day. The 120mm mortar you guys are using replaced that old, heavy, "four-deuce." The charges were different. They looked like thin slices of cheese. Like the cheese on hamburgers. You calculated charges in 1/8th increments. Each corner of the square charge was 1/8th. One sheet had four corners so one sheet had 4/8ths, a charge of ½. Two sheets seen together was 8/8ths, a charge of one. Ten sheets were sewn together to make s charge of five. There were 40/8ths in a charge of five. Got very good with fractions back then. No computers were used to determine directional azimuth and range. All by paper, pencil, mechanical right triangles and maps. No batteries were needed.
Whomagoose I was a 4.2 inch guy back in the day. Went from gunner to FDC to Forward Observer. Loved watching the impact area and lighting up the sky at night.
I used to be an artillery Marine. We were one of the first artillery batteries to field test the EFSS mortar (m329). IT was a decent weapon system and infinitely easier to set up and move than our usual m777 cannons. The mortar system came with their own mini jeep vehicles to tow the mortar and ammo. Affectionatley know to us as "clown cars" because of how ridiculous they looked. I believe these days the Marines are dropping these mortars though because there really isn't much of a use for them that the m777 155mm howitzers cant handle or that the infantry's 81mm and 60mm mortars cant handle
There is indeed a gap between 81 and 155, a big bang close in, for example. I wonder why the Corps doesn't just adapt the smaller, lighter Army 120. It appears to be much more man-portable--because, Army perhaps?
@James Miller I think the weapon system itself was great but the cost of the full package which probably included the clown cars and clown car ammo movers made it too expensive to maintain and frankly, the vehicles sucked. If we could have just had the mortars alone without the dumb vehicles with it, it would have made sense. We could have just as easily towed the things with our 7-tons like we do the m777. There would be the added bonus of the ability to be towed by a Humvee or mrap/matv
I've operated an army version of 120mm that was mounted inside a tracked APC. This was in Korea and my Marine unit (81mm) was cross training with them.
@@janelane9281 you fucking liberals will destroy the country you already have trumps the geeza who knows the truth so do we unless u wake up America will be gone so will the UK and the rest of Europe very very sad u can't see this guess your just a spastic
@CR BZ mortar were called mortar because back in the days, mortars looks like a mortar (as in mortar and pestle), and yes, there was also giant mortar pieces which are larger than most artillery gun.
"Load! Come on, come on! Stand back, fire! Let's go, let's go, let's go! Come on, come on! Load! Stand back, fire! Let's go, let's go! Come on! Come on! HEDP! Load! Come on, come on! Stand back, fire! Let's go, let's go, let's go! Come on, come on! Load! Come on! Stand back, fire! Let's..." I found that bit weirdly relaxing.
Wouldn't a short, folding, portable walk up ramp make for faster reload times rather than a step up stool? Great vid by the way. Makes ya all proud, warm and fuzzy inside. 'MERICA!
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I was in the first unit in European theater, 6/502 in Berlin, to use this in 1991. No remote fire and light little trailers. Spent 3 weeks in field with Aberdeen basically writing FM for it.
Because of the ballistic flight curve a hit 50m beside a target is called a hit. In training we once were able to see targets on the other side of the valley in about 4km distance. One offz wanted to see us operate on direct sight and my uffz estimated the distance with a glass, used the tables and gave the orders - it hit just on top of the target tank. Just big luck.
They seem to fire as soon as the shell is dropped in, does that mean the act of dropping and hitting the bottom triggers it? I don't see anybody pushing a trigger button ...
@tk421missing I haven't been through that because of the government but I have been through that because of the people. I think you're doing more than waxing philosophical, you're waxing factual.
Whats that little periscope thing they keep looking into before firing and what are those 3/4 cheetoh looking things at the base of the round supposed to be for?
It is the instrument that is locked on 2 different static aiming aid and on a collimator (tripod device that has a visible scale inside that has to match the one in the "periscope"). They check if all is still in balance, so they still shoot at the targetrange. After each shot the mortar can move a bit on the footplate and may "walk out of target". (Rundblickfernrohr)
@@MCallsen Thanks mate. any idea what those white horseshoes near the fins of the mortar are? do they make any difference to range or is that top secret info?
@@hudcofudco It is a 5 zones 4 increments propellant charge. You can see as they load the ammunition, that one one remains around the tail. So they shoot short range. (ammo is the M1100 Series) / They can shoot up to 16-20 km.
I know nothing about mortars so could someone tell me why smaller mortar rounds fire automatically when dropped down the tube and these big ones are manually triggered like artillery?
A quick question here to everyone here who have used the mortars: What are those white/yellowish rings that are added on the base of the mortar rounds? My initial thoughts were that they were maybe weights to limit the range of the rounds until I read somewhere that they are to boost the range of the rounds. Which is it?
General James "Mad Dog" Mattis do you have a copy. Frame 45sec to 2:45sec only a one man index is utilized though constant fire suppression is needed. A second man to the right must be holding a bad Union Card due to his "layoff".
Question, how come they have to wear body armor and helmets but not carry their m16s? If they're safe enough to be able to drop their weapons they should be safe enough to drop the armor no? Thinking that they might be able to work faster with less weight as well.
I am not in the military and I am not an expert, but I am going to guess they got so many bulletproof vests laying around that the higher ups think "Why not?" A vest is cheaper than paying the hospital bill of an artillery man getting shot by some lucky shot. Also this is not combat footage, but training footage. I heard that often times soldiers are made to wear the vests as additional exercise. The extra weight making the physical training harder.
They are in a training area. Also their rifles are in their trucks. Theres no reason to have rifle on your person while using a mortar. I used to be an artillery Marine. We were one of the first artillery batteries to field test the m327. We always wear full gear in training. You have to learn how to maneuver in it. Also for safety reasons. Not that it would help much if a round were to detonate and you were standing right next to it , but it could potentially stop some shrapnel
British paratroopers "double stacking" - two loaders - 81mm mortars at maximum range can put an incredible number of bombs in the air before the first one hits the ground. Apparently it's not that safe a practice! Slightest lack of concentration and you're holding a bomb in front of another one coming out of the tube.
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It's just the diameter of the mortar, it's not the same round. Similar to 7.62 being the same diameter for both 7.62x51mm and 7.62x39mm, they aren't the same round but have a similar diameter :)
When I was in Germany in the mid-70s I was in CSC 3/28th Inf Div, a mechanized 4.2 mortar platoon and it seemed like it was easier than what they have now, having to climb up and down stairs, wtf
I, myself, rather have the old 8" if I could have my choice. I have seen one 8" round flip a M113 in the air and land 25 meters from the original spot. You can't do that with a 155.
What happeneds if it misfire? Then you got to get it of the truck it's not a good idea to fire a mortar from a truck I'm just saying i been there done that but never from a truck
I used to love hearing that mortar tube ring. Kind of mortar music. The enemy gets only the bass notes.
A symphony of death, beautiful in its own way.
And now you hear it ring every were you go.
Good to see mortar maggots still at it. Was a crewman on the M-30, 4.2" (107mm) heavy mortar back in the day. The 120mm mortar you guys are using replaced that old, heavy, "four-deuce."
The charges were different. They looked like thin slices of cheese. Like the cheese on hamburgers.
You calculated charges in 1/8th increments. Each corner of the square charge was 1/8th. One sheet had four corners so one sheet had 4/8ths, a charge of ½. Two sheets seen together was 8/8ths, a charge of one. Ten sheets were sewn together to make s charge of five. There were 40/8ths in a charge of five. Got very good with fractions back then. No computers were used to determine directional azimuth and range. All by paper, pencil, mechanical right triangles and maps. No batteries were needed.
Whomagoose I was a 4.2 inch guy back in the day. Went from gunner to FDC to Forward Observer. Loved watching the impact area and lighting up the sky at night.
I used to be an artillery Marine. We were one of the first artillery batteries to field test the EFSS mortar (m329). IT was a decent weapon system and infinitely easier to set up and move than our usual m777 cannons. The mortar system came with their own mini jeep vehicles to tow the mortar and ammo. Affectionatley know to us as "clown cars" because of how ridiculous they looked. I believe these days the Marines are dropping these mortars though because there really isn't much of a use for them that the m777 155mm howitzers cant handle or that the infantry's 81mm and 60mm mortars cant handle
There is indeed a gap between 81 and 155, a big bang close in, for example. I wonder why the Corps doesn't just adapt the smaller, lighter Army 120. It appears to be much more man-portable--because, Army perhaps?
@James Miller I think the weapon system itself was great but the cost of the full package which probably included the clown cars and clown car ammo movers made it too expensive to maintain and frankly, the vehicles sucked. If we could have just had the mortars alone without the dumb vehicles with it, it would have made sense. We could have just as easily towed the things with our 7-tons like we do the m777. There would be the added bonus of the ability to be towed by a Humvee or mrap/matv
@@daveyy420 Easier to mount in a vehicle, such as an LAV. The Army seems to do it quite well with M113s and Strykers.
Wouldn’t the portability of these be a benefit over the m777?
I've operated an army version of 120mm that was mounted inside a tracked APC. This was in Korea and my Marine unit (81mm) was cross training with them.
I would love to see its impacts. 😍
MUSIC LOVER The blue rounds are inert training rounds. The green ones do contain explosives
Yeah ! American soldiers with French material (M327 mortar). Good! Forever friend, forever allied ! God bless America and France.
Hell yes friends for life.
@Tom Claringtom he's a blip in time, an anomalie.
Merci camarade
@@janelane9281 MAGA, you Frogs.
@@janelane9281 you fucking liberals will destroy the country you already have trumps the geeza who knows the truth so do we unless u wake up America will be gone so will the UK and the rest of Europe very very sad u can't see this guess your just a spastic
Those troops look sharp. We love and support you. 👍🏻👌🏻
i wish we all here can see blast effect from this mortars from drone which fly above..... i wish
No you don't!
Freedom sounds beautiful !
Gotta love that suppressed mortar on 4:20. Barely can hear a sound. It's obviously great for special forces stealth operations;)
Mechanized Army Motar Teams Kicked Ass
thats no mortar its the worlds smallest artillery
@CR BZ mortar were called mortar because back in the days, mortars looks like a mortar (as in mortar and pestle), and yes, there was also giant mortar pieces which are larger than most artillery gun.
@CR BZ Karl Gerat is a mortar firing a 600mm projectile, your point? Mine being "not all mortar shells are smaller than artillery piece munitions".
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Best days of my life firing this beast HE charge 6 load
You must have a lousy life then. Sorry mate.
"Load! Come on, come on! Stand back, fire! Let's go, let's go, let's go! Come on, come on! Load! Stand back, fire! Let's go, let's go! Come on! Come on! HEDP! Load! Come on, come on! Stand back, fire! Let's go, let's go, let's go! Come on, come on! Load! Come on! Stand back, fire! Let's..."
I found that bit weirdly relaxing.
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I agree lol
from an old USN vet, well done !
Wouldn't a short, folding, portable walk up ramp make for faster reload times rather than a step up stool? Great vid by the way. Makes ya all proud, warm and fuzzy inside. 'MERICA!
13 Bravo... best job I ever had
Being on the receiving end of 120's is definitely not fun i can confirm 🤣🤣
That sounds like an interesting story!
@@justina6176 It's quite the opposite. Trust me, I know:
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Adis Šabović was this a mortar attack on these people
Nice shots😄😄😄
Linda bomba con carga de proyección y se vé que el personal se maneja en el empleo de la Pieza de Mortero ..excelente felicitaciones
You can save the unused charge rings and burn them like solid fuel pellets to heat your mre’s.
That is true, just don't try to stomp them out!
billy56081 definitely.
Chuck Norris eats those with his drive thru Taco Bell order ! and he asks for seconds !
As a mortarman this is Like music to my ears
when I was in the ARMY, we had the 81mm and the 4.2 inch.
That looks fun as hell
At least the crew has a chance to step away from the gun before it fires. Our old 120's didn't have a remote firing system like that.
With the Marines they need the remote firing system!
I was in the first unit in European theater, 6/502 in Berlin, to use this in 1991. No remote fire and light little trailers. Spent 3 weeks in field with Aberdeen basically writing FM for it.
Long time years ago .I have been fired 60mm mortar,during in Kimmen Taiwan
多年前（二岸對峙不和平年代）我服役於金門金東師碧山營時曾射過60迫砲加火藥包加強射程幾乎打到寒舍花
Because of the ballistic flight curve a hit 50m beside a target is called a hit. In training we once were able to see targets on the other side of the valley in about 4km distance. One offz wanted to see us operate on direct sight and my uffz estimated the distance with a glass, used the tables and gave the orders - it hit just on top of the target tank. Just big luck.
Good job
Good 👏👏👏
The guy getting the ammo does all the work....
hey man, I'll have you know that turning those windage and elevation knobs is very exhausting as well :D
Yes.You could get windaged. Ha?!
In the Armored Cav we had four M1064 Mortor Carriers in each Troop. Great platform for maneuver and indirect fire in support of our troops.
How much do they weigh and how much does each round cost and what is the damage radius, anyone know?
I looked up the soltam k6 on wikipedia and it weighs 319 pounds, and has an effective firing range of 7500 yards.
I don't know anything about the ammo
Great shot of the chem trail above
This is why I went to the infantry,be tired as hell trying to keep up that fire lol
Just curious, how much does one of those shells cost?
Просто замечательно работают!!! The perfect work!!!
How do they calculate were to drop the mortar, do they use vectors?
You can play golf with these 120mm shells
ever do a helmet shoot like we did with the 4 duce?
Semper Fi brothers. Of to bed, thanks for the hard on
They seem to fire as soon as the shell is dropped in, does that mean the act of dropping and hitting the bottom triggers it? I don't see anybody pushing a trigger button ...
its confusing sometimes both methods are used. You will notice in most cases someone does pull a ripcord
so cool those freedom bombs !
120mm of democracy...
more like communism
commuinists states of murika
@fluff fuck aristocrats, fuck america and fuck the humans in general
@tk421missing I haven't been through that because of the government but I have been through that because of the people. I think you're doing more than waxing philosophical, you're waxing factual.
@fluff give up, he's either downs or insane.
@@jag0937eb your a spastic
What are the, what appear to be foam, donuts for near the trailing/ tail end?
They are propellant filled. That's what makes them go. Ask a mortarman.
Whats that little periscope thing they keep looking into before firing and what are those 3/4 cheetoh looking things at the base of the round supposed to be for?
It is the instrument that is locked on 2 different static aiming aid and on a collimator (tripod device that has a visible scale inside that has to match the one in the "periscope"). They check if all is still in balance, so they still shoot at the targetrange. After each shot the mortar can move a bit on the footplate and may "walk out of target". (Rundblickfernrohr)
@@MCallsen Thanks mate. any idea what those white horseshoes near the fins of the mortar are? do they make any difference to range or is that top secret info?
@@hudcofudco It is a 5 zones 4 increments propellant charge. You can see as they load the ammunition, that one one remains around the tail. So they shoot short range. (ammo is the M1100 Series) / They can shoot up to 16-20 km.
@@MCallsen thanks
What happens when you slam dunk a 120 to the tube?
Aos 0:30 é um avião comercial? Não interditaram o espaço aereo?
Самая блатная работа у того,кто за верёвку дёргает
Hi. May I ask what are those things wrapped above the fins?
propellant...(explosive sausage)
I know nothing about mortars so could someone tell me why smaller mortar rounds fire automatically when dropped down the tube and these big ones are manually triggered like artillery?
Can we see the impact of those rounds?
What are those round pieces by the base of the motor round?
Propellants.
A good old mortar of 120 RTF1 ! A precise and devastating mortar if we know how to serve !
what do you need this for nowadays？
A quick question here to everyone here who have used the mortars: What are those white/yellowish rings that are added on the base of the mortar rounds?
My initial thoughts were that they were maybe weights to limit the range of the rounds until I read somewhere that they are to boost the range of the rounds.
Which is it?
I think it's to stabilize the bottom part of the round while it's in the tube
It's the charge that ignites and propels the mortar
Secondary charges as the range goes from 200 to 7000 m
That cool,US army
Красавчики, это не минометы молот пашинского, с такими минометами можно воевать👍
US soldiers are the best
Why isn’t there a single demonstration of impact?
impressive
Wow that's a lot of freedom going down range.
I love morters
General James "Mad Dog" Mattis do you have a copy. Frame 45sec to 2:45sec only a one man index is utilized though constant fire suppression is needed. A second man to the right must be holding a bad Union Card due to his "layoff".
Liberty and whoop ass shall prevail.
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Why not automatic?
har d
An automatic muzzle loader.
Are you trying to make a joke?
Nice Chemtrail right off the BAT @ 0:31! Semper Fi!
Do people actually believe this chem trail shit? I’d hope they’re just joking
US Army babyyyyy
I guess the loaders have the biggest biceps of em all!
Y eso explota en algún lado?
I don't see any school or hospital, what are they firing at ?
François MengWan your momma
Aaaahhhh yes the nerf footballs of doom
Question, how come they have to wear body armor and helmets but not carry their m16s? If they're safe enough to be able to drop their weapons they should be safe enough to drop the armor no? Thinking that they might be able to work faster with less weight as well.
I am not in the military and I am not an expert, but I am going to guess they got so many bulletproof vests laying around that the higher ups think "Why not?" A vest is cheaper than paying the hospital bill of an artillery man getting shot by some lucky shot. Also this is not combat footage, but training footage. I heard that often times soldiers are made to wear the vests as additional exercise. The extra weight making the physical training harder.
They are in a training area. Also their rifles are in their trucks. Theres no reason to have rifle on your person while using a mortar. I used to be an artillery Marine. We were one of the first artillery batteries to field test the m327. We always wear full gear in training. You have to learn how to maneuver in it. Also for safety reasons. Not that it would help much if a round were to detonate and you were standing right next to it , but it could potentially stop some shrapnel
Also in case of theoretical counter battery fire. You would want some armor on....
0:46 "Sempai fire!!!" Jajajaja 🤣🤣🤣
I think it's 'stand by'
They are really slow?
British paratroopers "double stacking" - two loaders - 81mm mortars at maximum range can put an incredible number of bombs in the air before the first one hits the ground. Apparently it's not that safe a practice! Slightest lack of concentration and you're holding a bomb in front of another one coming out of the tube.
I guess this is what replaced the “four deuce” mortar. I suppose that’s showing my age, ha ha.
That ringing in the tubes, almost as satisfying as the ringing of steel at 500 yards lol
What are those donuts looking things on the tail of the mortar round?
Charges which can be removed to reduce the range.
대세 박격포 120mm
RUclips forelced me to watch this and you ?
Wonder how the receiving side looks likely
Bad Ass!
Well I guess it is safe to assume that these 0341's don't have to walk everywhere.
Anyone paying any attention to where they are landing?
Why don't they change to 90 degree angle and see what happen ?
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120 mm, isn't that the same round that the M1A2 uses?
It's just the diameter of the mortar, it's not the same round. Similar to 7.62 being the same diameter for both 7.62x51mm and 7.62x39mm, they aren't the same round but have a similar diameter :)
mm stands for milimeter(s)
When I was in Germany in the mid-70s I was in CSC 3/28th Inf Div, a mechanized 4.2 mortar platoon and it seemed like it was easier than what they have now, having to climb up and down stairs, wtf
@Kevin Olschesky yea I liked the 155, I'd like to use one as a tank lol
I, myself, rather have the old 8" if I could have my choice. I have seen one 8" round flip a M113 in the air and land 25 meters from the original spot. You can't do that with a 155.
شوف انا شاريتها هيا 🎯🎯🔥🔥👍👍👍👍🔫🔫
Good to see it operated as a two man crew. The first segment seemed like a waste of manpower with the string holder and micro manager.
👏👏👏good
Why isn t shown where sheels have landed
Holy shit! That’s a mortar?? More like a front loaded howitzer! That would cause a holy mess on the landing spot.
How much moneys burst
Don't they need to swab the tube every so often?
Michael Nobibux No.
What happeneds if it misfire? Then you got to get it of the truck it's not a good idea to fire a mortar from a truck I'm just saying i been there done that but never from a truck
It looks like the canon of 120 French with his stool made in GIAT.
HK Adler the EFSS is a french tube. It’s good field piece.
COOL....
Cocok buat bantuan tembakan prajurit Infanteri mekanis. Semoga saja TNI mengakuisisi mortar kaliber 120 mm ini.
What if they made the mistake of loading two rounds of Ammo in the tube?
Boomm!!
nothing happens. The shells are only armed after a certain number of revolutions after firing.
A rainbow in the sky