We Ran a LinnDrum Through Pedals and a Neve Console | Funky Vintage Found on Reverb
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- Created by Roger Linn and employed by artists from Prince to New Order and beyond, the LinnDrum has become one of the most expensive vintage drum machines on the used market. Luckily, our friends at Synth City at Rock n Roll Vintage in Chicago had a mint condition LinnDrum they were willing to let us borrow. So, we took it over to Narwhal Studios, threw some pedals on it and recorded it into a Neve console. How do you think it sounds?
Download the FREE Sample Pack at bit.ly/3Vj6BbK.
Special thanks to Synth City/Rock n Roll Vintage.
rocknrollvintage.com/
Filmed and Recorded at Narwhal Studios.
narwhalchicago.com/
#linndrum #neve #drummachine #vintage #classic #lm2 #rogerlinn
0:00 - Intro/EXAMPLE 1
1:36 - LinnDrum History
2:17 - The Panel Layout
3:06 - EXAMPLE 2
3:37 - Recording Through the Neve Console
8:28 - EXAMPLE 3
9:10 - EXAMPLE 4
9:28 - Using Pedals
10:50 - EXAMPLE 5
12:20 - EXAMPLE 6
12:57 - Using Pedals Cont.
15:27 - EXAMPLE 7
16:05 - Outro 
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At 3:06 you said ‘the clap is another favorite sound of mine’ then at 13:43 you said ‘I was never really a fan of the Lynn drum clap’. My analysis is that I’m just a customer and you’re a salesman. Keep up the good work.
Yeah that was a little weird. Sometimes we just say shit. Either way I just downloaded the free sample kit and it sounds great. No complaints here.
The "engineer " dude saying basically nothing throughout the entire video, then adding "we had so much fun" at the very end made me laugh. Two Gs!:))
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The awesome Italo-disco must have drum machine. 👍
This was great! I'm all for the indulgence in the name of experimentation. That final beat had so much vibe.
"Way before the era of MIDI" Yeah right, MIDI came out the next year after this arrived.
It’s actually not the LM-2. It’s the LinnDrum. The “M” in LM-1 stood for Moffett, who had nothing to do with the LinnDrum. Just sharing the knowledge! ☮️
That's exactly what Roger Linn told me many years ago, so I stopped saying LM-2.
@@micmarkno ha ha me too!
That’s what happens when you get so called “experts” to come in and talk about it.
@@brandon1351 exactly. and with the neve, they slammed the preamps making them clip in the 80s to get that sound. they are treating the neve like its a new apple computer
Over a decade later I was able to get an Adrenalinn 3. I still got it around here somewhere.
So rad. More content like this please!!
Man that snare and clap sounds so sweetly glued into the mix. Fantastic
Seriously great demo! And super excited to check out the sample pack! Thanks, Reverb!
Not that it has anything to do with Prince using a Linndrum (he literally hated it)...but on the LM-1, typically they would take the direct out of the kick, Snare and sometimes the clap, sometimes the rim and everything else would come out of one of the summed outputs (mono) into his pedal board where he would in real time trigger effects on/off/parameters, etc while they were tracking. (he would also play fills in real time often) Even though they took the direct outs of kick/snr/clap or Rim, he could still mix those sounds into the summed mix out though the pedals as well so sometimes you hear the kick and snr/clap/rim through the pedals and sometimes not. I've had countless conversations with Susan Rogers about this process. I reckon no one remembers the process better than her. She also says they NEVER used a Linndrum on anything she ever worked on with Prince when it was his stuff. She said they did use it on some of Shelia's records. Just offering the clarification. I do love Chicago Synth City. Absolute best folks I've bought from.
Great insight here. Learned a couple more things about Prince and his use of the LM-1/LinnDrum (that he apparently hated) that I hadn't ever come across before myself. I'd say Susan Rogers is about as reliable of a source as you could ever find when it comes to Prince and the incredible things he could come up with in the studio and sometimes right on the fly. Man, there's so many of us that would kill to see a Prince documentary similar to The Beatles' "Get Back". Thanks!
I have never heard of Prince “ actually hating” the Linns. Clearly he loved using them and you can hear it and he would come up with fantastic patterns and even pushed it further by the late 80s. And the clap from the LM-1 still making an appearance in the 90s.
Is Susan the source for this information about Prince hating this drum machine?
The LinnDrum (LM-2😬) can be heard on the title track for dream factory at least the clap, and you could definitely hear it in strange relationship. Erotic City is this drum machine. You can hear the clap with a very short decay on Batdance. And it’s used in the unreleased ‘If I had a harem’ from the canceled original rave onto the joy fantastic 1989. Also in Dance With The Devil outtake from Batman.
I don’t know about Susan sometimes. Even Prince didn’t really like her.
@@Modernaire yes, directly from Susan. Prince loved the Linn LM-1. He hated, couldn’t stand the Linndrum.
@@80smusicproducer I think Prince hated Susan Rogers is what I think and he alluded to his extreme annoyance at her speaking on his behalf as if she made the music or was a co producer or something.
BUT, HOWEVER... I can see Prince disliking the way the LM-2, (yes I said it!) because it's slightly changed for the worse in terms of working with it.
If you work with both the LM-2 AND the LM-1, the LM-1 was smarter. In the way you could program it, the efficiency of laying down a beat, the layout, each tuner was for each sound, etc etc. .
Your creativity came across faster, and SO therefore, Susan may be right but most likely Prince didn't outright say he 'hated it' but rather found it difficult to work.
Because I can list many songs Prince used the LM-2 ... in. Most likely, Prince may have used LM-2, excuse me LINNDRUM chips IN a custom LM-1. And later sampled into a Fairlight etc.
Thanks for your reply.
@@Modernaire ummm, please cite the documentation where Prince says anything negative about Susan Rogers? And sounds like maybe you should educate the people who made the records about how they made the records….I THINK Prince loved my mom….I think LIKELY he played a toothpick through a cereal box on Let’s go crazy…who cares what we think, suspect or what’s likely. All any of us have when it comes to how these (and particularly these) records got made is the empirical and documented evidence by the people who were actually there. All else is folly. Susan has been remarkably consistent in her responses when asked about process when she recorded with Prince. Further she has always gone out of her way to downplay and refute any suggestion that she provided anything but an engineering role in their record making. Any assertion otherwise is just plain dumbassery….however you are free to continue in imaginative endeavors about whatever you desire, you don’t need my input for that.
For brief moment, while playing the ride and crash effects, siunded like Scholly D's "Gucci Time"...😊
Thanks for the samples as always!!!
THX 4 THE SAMPLES & INSPIRATION!
Awesome video. I loved listening.
this is so rad thank you!
Very nice video! Groovy!
timecode EXAMPLE 5 was where I started dancing around my apartment headbanding. Goes hard.
Love it ! ❤❤❤
New Order used the Oberheim DMX. But tons of others used the LD, like Prince. As I recall, back in the day, they were selling for ~$4k. Which was WAY outside the budget of the average musician back then.
I'm betting four grand is STILL way outside the drum machine budget of the average musician.
It was 3995$, but you could get an Oberheim DX or Sequential Drumtraks for around 1200$, still both were incredibly expensive, but the LinnDrum now would cost about 20000$ if adjusted for inflation etc.
Yep, sounds about right as I recall.
Awesome!! Thank You
Linn Drum thru Mikustomp....all claps!
awesome video!!!!!!!!❤️❤️
Groovy.
My favorite drum sound!
my fave drum machine
3:00 > 13:36 "The Linn Drum Clap which is another favourite sound of mine > which I was never really a fan of." 👍
he changed how he's always felt about it halfway through the video
😂😂😂
Hence why I ran the outputs through a bunch of pedals and effects
@@fessgrandioseStill doesn't make sense, just ten minutes apart 😂
Nothing sounds like a LinnDrum! And there was a whole bunch EPROMs with different sounds that you could load in to LinnDrum, like finger snaps, Exotic world percussion....
There is no LM-2. It’s just the “LinnDrum.”
Where did ‘LM-2’ come from? It’s been known as this for decades.
@@Modernaire People just started calling it that since it was the 2nd box to the LM-1, but it was never officially designated by the company as the LM-2.
@@alex_darsen Which people? Internet people or from way back before the internet. The 'LM-2' is so widely used and at this point accepted, that it's most likely not going away.
@@Modernaire Way before internet, of course. As for “people,” music biz people, sales, hobbyists, etc. You’re right that the moniker will keep getting used. I’m just saying it’s technically wrong, and a few others in here said the same. It’s like when everyone says “anyways,” when there’s no such word. It’s just “anyway.”
My apologies if I misinterpreted your comment in the first place, but dialing in the tempo on feel alone isn't the only option allowed by the LinnDrum. While I completely agree that going by feel can be an equally important creative decision when it comes to locking in the tempo, there's a BPM button directly below the tempo knob that the guy was adjusting. All it requires is for the user to pause the track and hold down the bpm button while simultaneously turning the tempo knob. It also allows you to follow the tempo change in real time on the two digital screens. By the way, the top screen only displays a number if you go above 99 bpm.
this beat should've been on the Breakin' soundtrack or Last Dragon soundtrack
Kid reminds me of a young Meatloaf 😎
So true !!!
🤣👍
young meatloaf mashed up with a young orson wells
Sounds like Prince!
I always just play my Linn drum samples on my MPC One. Thanks.
NOT the same stock sounds in the LM-1 and Linndrum.
that's super cool! i think there's a problem with the download link for the samples though. Thanks!
Please don't refer to the LinnDrum as an LM-2. Alex Moffett (the M in LM-1) had left the company he and Roger Linn created before the LinnDrum was created by Roger Linn himself. Even Roger Linn has stated that it shouldn't be referred to as an LM-2. Thanks for the video, though. Like all the effects. I love my LinnDrum and it never gets old playing it.
Ditto. Ignorance perpetuates ignorance.
Then where did ‘LM-2’ originate from?
The LinnDrum was the successor to the LM-1 (Linn Moffett -1), and people incorrectly refer to it as the LM-2, not realizing the name of the LM-1 came from the two founders, Roger Linn and Alex Moffett, (LinnMoffett-1). Moffett had left before the LinnDrum was created. @@Modernaire
@@toolman8269 This is getting geeky but let me ask you, does it matter? Where and when did the 'LM-2' originate from? Why is it here that I'm knowing about the distinction?
I'm most likely going to continue referring to the LinnDrum as the LM-2 also, it's kind of like perhaps a nickname because this model seems to derive from the first one, like a second version that is very similar to the first and it's so embedded in the public psyche that the 'LM-2' isn't going away.
Anyway, thanks for the background information. I'll do research if I'm inclined.
Why is he afraid of the neve?? 😂
Looking forward to the upcoming Behringer version.
Pretty sure Roger Linn would never have referred to this as the LM-2.
I wonder where Prince’s LinnDrum sits these days? Hopefully under glass at Paisley Park.
Prince didn’t own a Linndrum. However two of his 3 Linn LM-1s are still at Paisley Park.
@@80smusicproducerwhere was the LM-2 at that he used on several tracks of his? Where’s the 3rd LM-1?
@@Modernaire i 've seen a video where is was written on paper that they rented drum machines in the studio. That might be the thing. that video also shows use of the linndrum on prince recordings, it was written on paper next to the reel, if i remember right.
It's not called the LM-2! The "M" in "LM" is for "Moffitt" Moffitt had absolutely nothing to do with the LinnDrum.
So where did that originate from? I’m baffled.
@@Modernaire Moffitt was Linn's original financier
@@tschak909 I see. I'll do more research if I'm inclined one day. But I keep asking, so where did the 'LM-2' model number originate from? It's been noted like this for years.
@@Modernaire The LinnDrum is NOT known as the LM-2. It has been mis-reported as this, out of apocryphal laziness.
@@tschak909 I understand, but I think it’s been referred to us such for so long that it’ll probably stick around. In someway since the finance came from that person that’s facilitated the second version with sort of applicable. In that the second drum machine wouldn’t have happened if the first one wasn’t funded. And the design of them specially the same ones very similar to the first starting to think. Perhaps it was a way too replace the first version for some reason or another. Anyway, bottom lines that we all love these machines, no matter what name we use for them, I could put a nickname on mine, it’s all about the music and the drum machine is great ideas and work!
Like many musicians (well, drummers anyway), I really want to have a good ear. And I care enough about music and frequencies that I really deserve to have a very good ear for sound. However, it would appear that I don't. On some of those changes, e.g. compressing the bass drum or the eq on the hi-hats, when he said, 'this is in... and this is out...' I was just like, 'hrm, yeah. I, uh, totally hear the difference.'
Can the buyer get it signed by Fess? ❤
I could have made those sounds in ableton live
Yeah it has a piano too free! Much better than cruddy real pianos.
Linndrum V2
Example #4 is basically just rugrats
Phaser's not like a flanger. Prince used flange pedal on shakers, chiefly, rather than high hats.
Fair enough. However, he did use it on high hats often as well - "She's Always In My Hair" being one example. The A-side of "She's Always..." was "Raspberry Beret" - which features the Linn with flanger on the detuned rimshot channel.
Mmmm, I think that was gated reverb, not flanging.
@@ThaRealChuckDhe used both actually.
It actually can sound somewhat close.
@@n.oneimportant5 I'm sure. Everybody was using gated reverb back then though.
Bought mine early 2000s for $500. Sent it to FORAT to give it the Prince/Peter Gabriel makeover.......and like a dummy, sold it for $500 years later.
It's not a "NEVE Console". It's a "RUPERT NEVE DESIGNS Console". 2 different companies...the latter NOT like the NEVE console that Prince used in the day.
Also Prince didn’t use Neve consoles….he preferred and had in his studio modified API consoles….
@@80smusicproducer Up until he had his own studio, he also used the modified API at Sunset Sound (Purple Rain; Sign of the Times)
@@ParadNorthProd he had the Wallie Hieder modified API installed at his house before he built Paisley also (Susan installed it and they cut quite a bit of SOTT there as well.
But, but they’re both … Neves.🤢
Re re Verb!
They made magic with this corny sounding thing in the 80’s
Ohh I miss the old times, 70s, 80s and 90s... When the motivation was moving forward, be innovative, not recycling old fads and trends.
Not a Neve console. That is a Rupert Neve Design console. Let’s stop confusing people.
Sometimes correcting or specifying can be confusing also.
@@Modernaire so correct information is confusing? Ignorance is your shelter…. Sad.
@@artwerkmedia8616 Well, I can do my own research to verify if it is correct information but for now, I see TWO 'Neve' names in the names of BOTH consoles. That's confusing.
@@Modernaire Problem is is that you should do your research before you post an opinion. The world already has too many opinions and not enough facts.
@@artwerkmedia8616 well the clear fact is that in both consoles ‘Neve’ in the name. I know I’m not gonna do research. I’m just giving you an observation not an opinion. No need to get all offended or gear snob about it.
This is what Prince used to do
Simmons SDS-9 + MTX-9, and that linndrum is in underwear.... for what, a fith or a sixth of the cost? and the prom blower and you should be close pricewise to a dx. okay no sequencer incorporated, but in 2024 who cares?
Prince was cheating with this machine......
This is the dumbest linndrum video out there:) With all the resources in the studio they made it sound worse than a clean signal into a basic cheap 4track mixer. No reverb on the snare? "Not a fan of Linndrum's clap", okay nuff said:) brothers need some milk, damn
So much misinformation in this video.
Very disappointing Reverb.