Paint doors with oil based paint with a brush and roller
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- Опубликовано: 4 дек 2014
- Paint doors with a brush and roller. This clip is how to oil base gloss doors with a brush and roller in a new home under construction.
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Good video thanks.
Perfect. I can do that.
Thank you very much you have just made painting my doors so much easier i used OWATROL OIL Paint Conditioner as Penetrol seems to be hard to get in the UK. My doors and frames look great so thanks again.
+Tony Tiger
Just like penetrol that stuff, happy I could help,
Tony Tiger
Good job!
Thanks 👍
Like it...
good job mate.
Thanks for taking the time to comment, its always welcome.
Builder with a background in carpentry... not bragging lol. I really do appreciate good painting as I have had a go at a few doors over the years and it is not easy. Also secret safe with me 😉
Thanks mate,its an art for sure
Never ever saw anyone roll a door like that!!! Brilliant! I'm trying this!!
Thanks mate,
in the future i will be doing one using the spraygun and the roller,
@@ThePa1nterhowto
Hi greg . Ive just begun painting and have recently purchased a graco ultra 395 sprayer. Ive bought with the intention to spray all skirting and architrave. Have you any advice for me i dont have any experience spraying. If for instance i needed to undercoat all skirting doors and architrave with oil based undercoat would you have to clean sprayer completely with turps before using the top coat? I know this is basic stuff for you but any help would be really appreciated
@@micksmith3352 Is your home new bare or old repaint, if old what paint is on the trim now
@@ThePa1nterhowto hi greg its old oil based gloss
@@micksmith3352 I like to brush my qd oil undercoat on first but if you spray the quick dry oil based undercoat, do not thin it down or you will get runs. Prep the areas after the undercoat, gap,sand,dust,spray a second coat next day. Wash ur gun out properly between coats or leave ends in water. Finish off with water based or oil based gloss, expect some runs,dont panic,let them dry,sand,recoat.
I would use a 210 or 211 tip for trimwork.
you sir are bad ass
What type of sleeve are you using bud ?
I'm amazed!!! I have to use water based paint as I have cats so it's a problem . Also here in U.K. we have very dull weather. Just started to paint the doors with roller and finishing with a damp brush. Light is aweful despite using a lamp which casts shadows then one of the cats decided to investigate. Have given up as the last door was aweful mainly due to light probs but water based isn't easy. will you do a video on water based paint on the same door style?
Hi thanks for commenting, painting doors with water based paint is the same method as above, brush the inserts and then roll the flats. I am laughing imagining your cats covered in paint while you are doing it.
In damp weather there is a chance that a quick dry oil based paint can be used and drys much quicker than water based, you would need to speak to someone at the paint store to see what they have.
ThePa1nter jjjj
Good job. I always used a mini roller with mohair or velvet nap. But your 9" is a lot faster. The wood texture probably hides if there is any orange peel. How does that big roller work on a smooth flat door. Do you have to tip it out or does the roller finish level out ok?
Great question. I’m just as curious.
Hi, thanks for your tips with a roller and brush, I am in the middle of spraying with a wagner paint system this is whole house and I am using oil based, under coat and then gloss but I have had to thin the paint down with white spirit it goes on well but I find the fums, rather strong any suggestions even with a respirator and windows open? But being a bit old fashion have not used water based paint yet so just wondered what you think with to days products, Thanks John.
I think today's products have become more adapt for the amateur and an amateur finish that comes with it. Nothing beats the oil-based paints, I know myself if I thin the oil-based paint down there will be lots more fumes. I personally can't smell the fumes as I've been around it much too long. Perhaps have a fan on in the houses to push the fumes out the window is all I can suggest. You would not be happy with water-based gloss enamel after you used oil-based, just for sheen, self levelling, hardness etc
Great tips! Thanks a lot for taking the time to make this video. I'll be subscribing 👍
Thank you
Hi mate, very good job you doing. Thumps Up. Just wondering did you do both side and put the door away, I mean finished both side of the door then take it away.
Thank for commenting, Yes, just flip it over, paint the other side and then move it.
Mate, what percent do you dilute the oil base? thanks
Yo sir good job can you do a door that has been badly painted paint bubbles and how you sanded it down please
Andrew Aguirre
best you can do is sand it with 180 paper , undetcoat and repaint. If it was painted with water based paint it is a lot harder to sand as the paint will feel rubbery.
it can be done just nerds time and patience, thanks for watching
I'm painting contrator from india bro 😍
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Hi m8, nice work, if you were recoating attached doors would you still use the roller pole?
Cheers.
It depends on the finish your required but personally I do because oil based undercoat sands very easily
Killin it
Great video Gregory, in general do you match the undercoat coulor with the top coat paint coulor or you use the undercoat as it is white coulor ?
Ideally you match the undercoat with the top coat color to get the best coverage and result.
Hi Gregory, what sandpaper grade do you use be for painting this door? And if i want to paint a door with water base and the previous paint is oil base waht sandpaper grade do you recommend to sand the oil base? Thanks mate.
hey mate. was just wondering how much penetrol u actually put in your pot? do you use it every time? or do you use turps?
i only use a very small amount of turps and maybe 10% penetrol in the pot so the brush doesnt drag ,roller tray is pure paint. i have been using a better quality gloss lately and cut back on the penetrol a bit.
if your painting in the sun with gloss , use penetrol as it realy makes a difference in coverage and ease of use,wouldnt be without it,example front doors.
Good tips mate! What is your setup, do you spray all your doors with first coat (undercoat). Then brush and roll as shown here?
Do you bother undercoating doors if they are pre - primed?
+Logan Griffen
Yes undercoat them them all first, edges get two, factory prime is incomplete sometimes so best to unsercoat
I bought some oil base paint in a 5 gallon bucket. Opened it up and it was all liquid on top and sludge on the bottom. I got it almost all mixed bud there is still lumps in it. Would a paint mixer on a drill work?
Yes use a paint mixer, after its well mixed you can strain it with woman's pantyhose for perfect paint again.
@@ThePa1nterhowto cool thanks.
Do you throw your rollers away after using gloss paint or if not, how do you clean them properly without using gallons of white spirit? Thanks .
Lynda Taylor
I throw away roller sleeves after use but sometimes i wash out in dirty turps , clean turps and final rinse in diesel fuel ,
Only if doors have a grain or ORANGE PEEL
had pleasure to use uni pro microfiber sleeves for a while and no better sleeve is to be found.. unfortunately after the Brexit importing them from UK to Ireland is to expensive.
Sometimes we have to.pay more for quality, if you can find them cheaper somewhere, try buying in bulk
Nice description.40 year journeyman.
Welcome 40 years also this year 😁
Retired now. Enough of this happy shit!
Mate what line of Uni-pro brushes do you use, are they smooth coat or something? Do you know at all if penetrol will increase
the yellowing of enamels substantially.
Yes they are the smooth coat brushes.
Penetrol as far as I know does not increase the yellowing of enamels, when I was using Berger Gold Label enamels, yellowing was happening quickly but it seems since I am now using Dulux Professional Gloss and no penetrol, yellowing is not as noticeable ,so I just put it down to a better quality gloss not the penetrol.
Good vid any more coming...
what gloss are you using water based or oil
oil based
Good job how thick is the roller nap?
The roller sleeves are rokset 12mm microfibre on the colonial doors like this and 4mm microfibre on flat doors(flush)
Thanks for that
hi. what kind of roller are you using sir?
The roller sleeve I am using is a mohair UNI PRO brand sleeve that doesn't give off any lint.
im going to do this but with the doors attached. because im lazy.
Gmonkey Its much harder with the door attached
What nap roller are you using?
Michael Dobbs 12mm on colonial doors and 8mm on flush doors
Why is it when I'm painting wood doors and frames currently with oil based gloss that 30 seconds after painting it on, if I go back over a spot I just did it's peeling off?? The doors have previous paint on from a long time ago. I've cleaned all with sugar soap then wiped it off. I'm lightly sanding (keying) prior to painting
Dominic, The problem sounds like its the sugar soap, I do not use that rubbish,its caused many people major issues over the years. I only use fresh water and a couple drops of dishwasher liquid or for bad oily surfaces i use straight turps then fresh water. Quick dry oil based undercoat is what I use for 100% adhesion on old oil based paints. Thanks for taking the time to ask the question
@@ThePa1nterhowto when I brush the paint on it's fine, adheres well and a good finish but as I say trying to go over a previously painted spot for whatever reason it peels right off. I've got other doors to do in same property so think it's best I wipe them down more to rid the sugar soap
@@ThePa1nterhowto after you have cleaned with water and washing liquid do you then wipe this solution off?
@@dominicoconnell8491 yes, fresh clean water rag, light scruff up with 180 grit sandpaper if your not undercoating.
What color is that? Base white paint without added any color or added light color to base white paint?
The undercoat is the same as the gloss top coat, its a color called "Quarter Grey Pebble"
Thanks!
Holy moly that is cool...but you turn the fresh painted door surface against the other doors? not even touch dry,,,how does that work
They are sitting approx an inch apart, that way I can fit lots of doors in the same room
My doors are currently oil paint and I want to re-oil paint, what method do you suggest?
A light sand with fine sandpaper, dust down and gloss, I would add some penetrol to the paint to help adhesion. One coat is adequate
@@ThePa1nterhowto thank you Should I paint with a roller or spray?
No mate put the product on with the mini roller then lay off and pull the paint flat with your brush. Or you will leave orange peel.
You mean tipping off, these doors are colonials and have a texture on them from the factory.
For painting brush is better or roller
A combination of both is best, brush by itself is hard and roller by itself is hard.
@@ThePa1nterhowto itself hard means? Which roller is good for. Enamel paint. Foam or synthetic.
@@fmm5322 Look for 12mm microfibre sleeve,is good for oil based paints and water based
I was hoping to see how you avoid "overlaps" on the edges
Paint the door edges first and work fast , the fat edges disappear when you roll them and oil base paint self levels so any overlaps get merged in
@@ThePa1nterhowto Thanks for the advice Best wishes
what circumstances would you use a sprayer instead?
Xzander We use sprayers as well,if you look on my videos you will find 15 doors in 20 minutes video. If you have lots of doors ,probably best to use spraygun,same principle,easier on your shoulder and wrist.
great thanks for your reply
Ever try a foam roller?
foam rollers rip too easy, don't last long, don't hold enough paint, need tipping off, fine if your only a learner with one or two doors to paint
ThePa1nter I'm a pro painter that happened to come across your channel by chance and was giving my 2 cents. I agree wouldn't want to use foam roller with that many to do. However I do like the finish foam gives better if only doing a couple.
I use a 4" foam roller and it lasts easily for one house, say 12 doors but I must try your method which may save even more time and effort.
cwrowe
cwrowe
Roller Lite makes a high density foam roller for doors and trim that is pretty durable.
i spray my doors with Sikkens Easy spray semi gloss.
10 times faster then youre roller system...
renato volpe
now that wasnt so hard to be nice was it, welcome renato ,sikkens easyspray is a water based product so you cant compare what i am using and what you used ,you should look at my video on spray undercoating doors because thats more in line with what you do and how quick it is. Finish product with water based products is far inferior in gloss sheen and quality than oil based products,you should not confuse the two,bit like comparing two pack to oil enamel.
renato volpe ...and...?...
@@ThePa1nterhowto beautiful response, Renato volpe : your a wana be ! ciao amigo old school boys know their shit and have been around to see it all Respect your elders little boy
Why hire a painter? Because most people don't want to deal with prep, mess and clean up.
That's not how to gloss a door ,will never be as good a finish as hand painted with a lay off to get the best sheen from ur gloss impossible to get with roller no matter how fine the nap is,I pick quality over quantity any day
Philip Lee You obviously dont know anything about gloss enamel and how it levels out and you also dont know anything about colonial doors that have a factory texture on their door. Flush doors on the other hand are flat and tipping them off after rolling will get the mirror finish you are talking about.
Hey bud I'm long enough in the trade,to know about gloss enamel,I'd be fired from my job in 2 seconds if I even suggested doing it ur way ,textured door or not you will never in a million years get the same finish as laying off. U will still get the orange peel effect,U can convince urself ur way is right cause u might be making some money ,fair play to ya,but as I said quality over quantity any day
Do a textured door ur way and then mine and see the difference for urself, I work almost year round in a 5 star hotel,also private and industrial ,I've almost 20 years experience, and if I turned work out like that I'd be fired
@@philiplee6448 double edge sword mate brush marks with a brush or slight orange peel with a roller .its roller all day if u wanna make money iv
@@philiplee6448 lets see your video of you tipping off an oil base gloss finish door bud.. come on ..
you sir are bad ass