What a breath of fresh air this gentleman was. I love his genuine curiosity and sincere responses. He is seeking the truth and not picking fights. I pray he finds the truth and Jesus is the truth, the way and the life.
In the book of Revelation Jesus receives the exact same praise and worship as the Father who is sitting on the throne. "...blessing and honor and glory and power to Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, forever and ever!..."
I love Cliffe's videos, but I have to say, this one might have been his worst. Cliffe let that guy spew pre-programmed lie after lie after lie, and never called him out on any of his lies. If I was an unbiased viewer looking for a faith, I might have actually leaned toward the young man's religion by the way he made it sound. Sometimes I think Cliffe is so concerned with being cordial, that he lets people get away with too much. I love the videos where Cliffe calls people out on their inconsistencies and shows them for the frauds they are. Those are the ones where Cliffe is most effective and powerful.
+Buddy Fisher your absolutely right Buddy, i love to watch his videos but i was just waiting for Cliff to correct him on what the Qur'an actually talks about and what their prophet Mohammad stands for according to the earliest sources of the Hadiths
+Buddy Fisher I was surprised he didn't correct him on, 'Muhammad never went on an offensive attack.' Sometimes the Holy Spirit restrains. It has happened to myself. I would look back after a witness effort and think this. God bless brother Buddy 1 John 3:8
+Buddy Fisher I think Cliff did well to point out the inconsistencies of the Islamic faith and how unreliable it is compared to Christianity. This young man clearly had an agenda to confidently affirm and push the religion of Islam and Cliff of course picked up on that. People need to be handled differently, Cliff is not out to bash people with the Bible but rather help them understand the validity of Christ and how He (Jesus) should be considered as plausible. All the while doing this in Love. Remember the Word of God does not return void and He (God) gives the increase. Thank you Cliff for being a doer of the Word and not just a hearer only. It is easy for anyone of us to make armchair comments. I think if we have any negative comment we should first show videos of our public apologetics and go from there. I praise God for the good works of Cliffe Knechtle.
Jason Falk I do love Cliff's videos and appreciate his ministry. I am certainly no armchair quarterback. Please feel free to check out my youtube channel and see that I don't spend much time on the sidelines.
This has got to be my favorite video so far. This gentleman was so respectful and so insightful. And I love his responses and I loved his questions. More videos like this please!
Most of them are like this. The Quran is full of contradictions. David Wood points this out endlessly. Mohammed was a lust driven warlord. A 180 degree spin away from Christ.
I think you missed the point, the brother is not trying to appear as a scholar, Islam, instead, he wanted to show that he is an every day guy who has questions. If you noticed he was able to answer any other questions he was able to quote verses from the Quran. He was able to answer delicate questions. he also noticed how the conversation switched from being about Islam and to Isis and terrorism and all this, when this happens, you should always know that the conversation did not go according to plan for the Christian. It’s almost always the case. Peace.
Even though the Muslim was very courteous, he is unfortunately largely mistaken about his conception of "peaceful" Muhammad, without even knowing it. Just goes to show how young Muslims are indoctrinated by their leaders in the mosques. What I mean by that is, the imams only emphasize Muhammad's good deeds without sharing the atrocious acts he committed. And yes the Quran does allow wife-beating (Quran 4:34) at a last resort, and Muhammad did hit his wives, including Aisha (Sahih Muslim (4:2127)).
Without sugarcoating Allah is satan and Mohammed married a 6yr old. Ask yourself is this the duo I wanna bet on for eternity or does God and Jesus answer ALL questions and needs.
very nice... I just hope that he would come to realize that Jesus is what he's been truly searching for. I really like that Cliffe stopped his conversation without probing him with more questions because I also thought that he needs some more time to think by himself... great work Pastor Cliffe~
I use to be a muslim but now im a follower of Christ. I have alot of respect for Muhammad and still believe he was an incredible person, alot of beautiful teachings and lived a life that in honorable and worthy of respect, the only difference is that he was incorrect about who Jesus and God is, Jesus claimed to be God and the evidence is overwhelming and Jesus as God is worthy of all worship, glory and honor. Muhammad was an incredible man, but he was incorrect on some very important truths.
You gotta step up your Apologetics on Islam Cliff. Just a couple verses from the Quran and the Haddith would've helped this young man to see he's been lied to.
Cliffe was respectful, but yes because he was so polite, he seemed to get an easy run. He wasn't brought to task on his description of the gospels being corrupted, he left with his faith in Islam untouched.
If you are a Christian, then he would not be your brother. "To them whom believed on HIM gave HE the power to become the children of GOD". Therefore, since that guy does not believe on CHRIST, then he is not a child of GOD, and therefore would not be your brother.
In one of your videos I heard you say if someone rose from the dead you should listen to them, they’re credible. That made me think about The book of revelation, when the beast rises from the dead & his wound is healed it makes a lot of people believe that he is god & they worship him. So with that in mind it would probably be a good Ideal not to be amazed if someone rose from the dead, seeing as it’s a sign for the beast & the false god.
this young man need to read the book 'Seeking Alah, Finding Jesus' by Nabeel Qureshi. He can aslo contact him on facebook and twitter. He was once in the exact same spot as this young man in this video, questions.
I wish if Cliffe has any ideas about Islam. There is a lot of resources out there like...Christian Prince, CIRA international, Anthony Rogers, Sam Shamoun, Rob Christian, Adam Seeker, Brother Rachid, Brother Hussain, and so on. This guy he is lying to his tooth in every aspect. He has no clue of Islam. Whether he is practicing "takia" (according to Islam you are allowed to lie under three conditions) or he doesn't have any clue about Islam like most Muslims. The sad part is Cliffe let the guy escape with his fairytale version of Islam.
yes cliff doesnt knows because they dont translate quran correclty :D you and me know :D and he doesn't knows because they are all liars (who can speak arabic / and deveciving people because they dont understand arabic ) there's one correctly translated quran (Generous quran by usama dakdok ) 100% true ; those so called qurans are translated incorrectly :D christian prince and rob both are arabic speakers so they know ; hussain also knows ; also CIRA ;
@@Phantom-sg3wr My advice is, if you are apologist at least you need some basic things to know about Islam because You will encounter them. I know the language barrier but still there is too much information out there. I have the Quran translated by Brother Osama, that is great. Moreover now we have also "The critical Quran" by Brother Robert Spencer. I am waiting to get it.
@@stewwweee That is true. And if Chrisian Prince 🤴 was there he could roasted him perfectly for dinner. If any one want to learn about Islam... Christian Prince David Wood Anthony Rogers Rob Christian Al Fadi (CIRA) Brother Rachid Father Zakaria Petros Robert Spencer Sam Shamoun Bob speakers corner Adam Seeker ... .... The list goes on and on. I love pastor Cliffe but not in Islam.
I love your response on 9/11. However, I think if you look at the broader scope of it whether you call it radical Islam or terrorism, then you have to judge the motives behind it or judge accordingly? In saying that, I believe we can not be in denial about what Islam teaches Cliffe? I have asked a few Muslims in my community, and all of them have a similar response when asked this: *"How do you interpret your own Quran?"* or *"Is this a literal or figurative interpretation"* Some refused to answer when asked them on certain passages of their quran? No answer, then simply Islam has no answer don't you think? The Holy Bible is very clear that Jesus is the answer. I can assure you many questions if not all have been answered by our living Jesus by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit and through his living vessels to go out into this world and spread the Gospel. I think David Wood is very cut throat on the teachings of Muhammad and does not waver. Him and Sam Shamoud on Jesus or Mohammad are very sharp on the teachings of Islam. Similar to how Apostle Paul can rebuke someone like Matthew. Still love your videos and God bless your ministry brother Cliffe :)
I've been learning a lot about Muhammad over the last year, thanks to referential guys like Dizzle Wood, Sam, AP. I really hope the Knechtles start to really read into Islam as well, and truly realize just how much hypocrisy and corruption there is within "Muhammad's" teaching.
Yup this is what i thought ...This guy left as he did something great for Allah . He lied everything and also said Bible corrupted also doesn't know the verse of Quran yet he still believes in it says a lot about him.
One more thing about Islam that you may want to point out is how, in 3:31-32 and 30:43-45 of the Qur'an, it says that Allah does not love unbelievers. Allah's love is contingent upon the belief or unbelief of the person, which shows that Muslims have a defective concept of God (in other words, on Islam, God is not all-loving). For another reference, William Lane Craig also makes this argument in his work.
+Kevin Watson Hi again Kevin, I'm taking that from what you are saying you believe the Christian God of the bible to be 'all loving'. You say Allah's love is contingent upon whether a person believes in Allah, .. well isn't the Christian Gods love also contingent upon whether I accept him? As you know, I reject him in the same way I reject all other deity claims. So, on that basis, according to Christianity what is my fate for not believing in a God without what I see as credible evidence? Do you believe God will be all loving to those who lack belief in him?. Obviously I'm talking about Hell, how can an 'all loving' God even create a place called Hell if he is 'all loving'? .. you used the phrase 'defective concept of God' in reference to the Islamic God, well, I'd use that same phrase to describe the Christian God. Any God that has a concept of hell, cannot be 'all loving' as I see it.
+bonnie43uk Hi Bonnie, first point you know God exists everyone does you just suppress the truth about him because you want to continue to live in your sin whatever it is. Hell is a place where Evil/Sin will ultimately dwell forever. If there is know Hell evil ultimately wins in the end. God loves everyone but not all people love God, and God wont force anyone into his presence for eternity, So you will end up with what you want in the end( A Godless life/Eternity) You know what Jesus Did for you and no other God did that NONE!. He's reliable with enough evidence to trust him with confidence that what he says is true. The bible says that your spiritually blind. Time is running out for you we are getting old and dont know if we have tomorrow. Stop spending so much time on these forums and take a moment to ask God if your real reveal yourself to me. You must be genuine and i promise he will make him known to you in some unique way i promise. Have a great night.
Alangiuroiu Hi Alan, thanks for your reply. Regarding your first point, you say "Everyone knows God exists, but they just suppress it because they want to sin". That's very presumptuous to say we all know God exists, I'd be quite interested to know how you know this for certain, and maybe more importantly how do you *know* that God exists?, how does he reveal himself to you personally? Regarding 'sin' what sins am I committing that you seem so sure about. I'm not aware of any wrongdoings that I am doing. I have done things in the past which I shouldn't have done, the last thing I can remember doing that got me into trouble was about 40 years ago, and I paid a heavy price for that in many ways, we learn from our mistakes and change our ways. Life is a learning process. I don't spend that much time in these forums, certainly not as much as it may seem. I enjoy watching Cliffe's video's and his interaction with the students, I normally post a comment and answer a few replies, it doesn't take that much time out of my day, I lead a full and active life and have lots of other interests, I love sports..I can't play anymore due to various ailments and age catching up with me, but today, being Saturday, i will follow my soccer team Swindon Town FC, we have a big game against Coventry away from home, we are taking about 2,000 fans to cheer the team on. But yes, I enjoy these chats about faith, it's an interesting subject for me. If it works for you, all well and good.
YHWH † behold The Hand Behold the Nail Don't worry. I am a Christian and have been for several years now. bonnie43uk First, think about what you are arguing against and compare it to what I am arguing against. I'm arguing against the concept of God in Islam, based on verses from the Qur'an that say, verbatim, that God does not love unbelievers. You are not arguing against the Christian concept of God. By saying, "How can an all-loving God create a place like hell?" you are not attacking the Christian concept of God. You are arguing that the Christian concept of God is inconsistent with what the Bible affirms (i.e. that hell exists). You ask if God's love is contingent upon whether you accept Him. Absolutely not. Here are some verses to consider: John 3:16: "For God so loved *the world*, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life." The term "the world" is important here because it is a universal term that means, in this verse, all people. God loves all people, even sinners. Romans 5:8: "But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." Have you ever thought of that? Now, I know that you don't believe that Jesus rose from the dead, but that is not the point here. The point is that if He did, then He has done it *to save people while they were still sinners*. God's love doesn't come into doubt when He dies for people who don't even yet believe in Him. If Jesus really rose from the dead, then He has died and risen for you, too, no matter if you reject Him or not. There are many other examples in the Bible, but the point is clear. The Christian God loves all people unconditionally, and this is not the concept of God in Islam. So the point here is consistency. Now that we've established that the Bible teaches that God is all-loving, is this consistent with the idea of hell and punishment for one's sins? Here, another property of God emerges: justice. God is just, and as such, He punishes evil. Now remember that in the Judeo-Christian worldview, God does not punish us merely for the collection of finite sins that we commit. It is ultimately rejection of God that warrants our quarantine from Him. I agree with Alangiuroiu here; ultimately those who go to hell are where they want to be, separated from God. Some argue that this sin (rejection of God) is eternally punishable; I think that this is a good point. Another good point is that sins are still committed in hell. I think that it's safe to assume that there will be a tremendous and overwhelming hatred of God in hell. These people don't want God; why would God force them to be with Him? Another point is that you have a faulty concept of hell. From my understanding, you think of hell as Dante's Inferno thinks of hell, as a place where sinners are eternally tortured. But this is not the biblical concept of hell. I'm sorry if you were raised with a fear of hell because of how it was taught to you. I understand that that fear can be deep and hard to escape from. I once feared hell, too. But it is not a cosmic torture chamber, and above all do not allow it to keep you from God Himself, who is the giver of life and source of all good in the world. That would be a tragic mistake to make. Even you said in a previous conversation that separation from God doesn't sound like a bad thing. I think that you are dead wrong. If God exists, then He is the source of life, love, and all of the beauty and good in the world. To be separated from Him for eternity would be terrible. You will say that you reject Him on the basis of a lack of evidence. Fine. But remember what a slippery slope that can be. I agree with you that if there are good reasons to reject God's existence and a lack of good reasons to accept it, then you should reject His existence. But what if He does exist? Paul says in Romans 1 that because God's existence is evident, we are without excuse. Make sure that you are searching for evidence in an unbiased way and that you are serious in this search because it could determine where you spend eternity (if there is an afterlife, of course). If God exists, then He has left us adequate evidence for His existence. This is the most important point that I can stress, and I'd love to talk about that evidence with you.
Kevin Watson Hi Kevin, ok, what do you consider to be the evidence for God?, I think we may have been over this before if you are going to present me with William Lane Craig's Cosmological argument we may grind to a halt because as I've mentioned to you, philosophical discussions about un-caused causes and prime movers are way beyond my level of understanding. Science doesn't currently know how the universe came into being as I understand it, but Craig asserts with certainty that it had to be the Christian God. I know it's something you are keen on, but I don't think the average person can cope with those kind of thoughts, I leave that to the likes of Craig and Sean Carroll. Why doesn't God provide me with credible easily understandable evidence of his existence.? Proof of a miracle would do nicely, not necessarily for my benefit, but for the person being healed, I've given you the example of an amputee, God doesn't seem to heal amputees. Maybe that would be a good topic for discussion rather than complex Kalam cosmological arguments concerning the origins of the universe, which physicists are currently working on. Or, if you are asserting that being separated from God would be, in your words 'terrible' and you are asserting that God is 'all loving' why would an all loving God be prepared to allow me to go to a terrible place?, If God has it within his power to prevent me from going to that terrible place, and for whatever reason, I end up there and he could have prevented it, then surely he is culpable. If I put myself in his shoes of being all loving and all knowing, then I would prevent anyone from being separated from me and going to a terrible place. I do also realize that 'putting myself in Gods shoes' may seem foolish, but I can only view God from my own perspective surely. If it seems logical to me that if God is all loving, I can't see how he can allow bad things to happen. But i know Craig's argument would be that we cannot know the mind of God, God may well see the bigger picture. In that case, God could justify any horror imaginable and we'd have to say "We cannot question God's ultimate purpose, for he can see the bigger picture", but that's not much comfort if you are being tortured in a concentration camp is it. I can easily see how many Jews lost all faith in God due to their hopeless dire situation, and if it turned out there *was* a God afterall, would their rejection of God in that hopeless situation be even more compounded by being sent to hell for losing faith in God as they were being gassed?. Now there's an interesting question. Or maybe it's a mute point because all Jews go to heaven because they are Gods chosen people. But that makes no sense to me as none of us get to say into what religion we will be born. Again, we go back to God being all loving, why would he favor one nation over another if he loves all of us equally? It takes me back to my question about Mohammad, why didn't God appear to him to leave him in no doubt that Christianity was true rather than Islam, then have Mohammad spread the word of Christ, that makes perfect sense to me. Why would God allow Mohammad to start a rival faith As you said Kevin, you believe the Christian God loves all people unconditionally, unlike the the concept of God in Islam.. so God could have came to Mohammad as he did to Paul of Tarsus and converted Mohammad to Christianity instead of Islam. Imagine the bloodshed and hatred this could have prevented had Mohammad spread the word of Christianity. What is the logic of allowing Mohammad to begin a rival faith to Christianity?, if Gods purpose of revealing himself to Paul via a revelation was to spread the word of Jesus's salvation of mankind, then he could easily have done the same to Mohammad.. win/win situation as I see it for Christianity. I seem to recall a few weeks ago you'd said you'd pray for me that I may find God. Has God given you any feedback or indication as to how it's going?, I've had nothing at this end. As I see it, this only confirms my suspicions that God probably doesn't exist. That is a serious question btw, I'm not being facetious, has God given you any kind of reply?, and if so, in what form did Gods reply come to you? I would be genuinely interested to know if, or how God has contacted you.
@@PaleMistthat Muhammad was a saint lol, dude murdered people and married a 6 year old to have sex with her 3 years later. That doesn't speak God to me.
I truly respect this gentleman. He is very respectful, intelligent and humble when he speaks with Cliff. I would disagree with the statement that he made, "That it does not say to abuse your wife in the Quran." Quran (4:34) - "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great." Contemporary translations sometimes water down the word 'beat', but it is the same one used in verse 8:12 and clearly means 'to strike'. Quran (38:44) - "And take in your hand a green branch and beat her with it, and do not break your oath..." Allah telling Job to beat his wife (Tafsir). In the Hadith and Sira, it is mentioned more often: Sahih Bukhari (72:715) - A woman came to Muhammad and begged her to stop her husband from beating her. Her skin was bruised so badly that it is described as being "greener" than the green veil she was wearing. Muhammad did not admonish her husband, but instead ordered her to return to him and submit to his sexual desires. Sahih Bukhari (72:715) - "Aisha said, 'I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women'" Muhammad's own wife complained of the abuse that the women of her religion suffered relative to other women. Sahih Muslim (4:2127) - Muhammad struck his favorite wife, Aisha, in the chest one evening when she left the house without his permission. Aisha narrates, "He struck me on the chest which caused me pain." Sahih Muslim (9:3506) - Muhammad's fathers-in-law (Abu Bakr and Umar) amused him by slapping his wives (Aisha and Hafsa) for annoying him. According to the Hadith, the prophet of Islam laughed upon hearing this. Abu Dawud (2141) - "Iyas bin ‘Abd Allah bin Abi Dhubab reported the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) as saying: Do not beat Allah’s handmaidens, but when ‘Umar came to the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) and said: Women have become emboldened towards their husbands, he (the Prophet) gave permission to beat them." At first, Muhammad forbade men from beating their wives, but he rescinded this once it was reported that women were becoming emboldened toward their husbands. Beatings in a Muslim marriage are sometimes necessary to keep women in their place. Abu Dawud (2142) - "The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife." Abu Dawud (2126) - "A man from the Ansar called Basrah said: 'I married a virgin woman in her veil. When I entered upon her, I found her pregnant. (I mentioned this to the Prophet).' The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: 'She will get the dower, for you made her vagina lawful for you. The child will be your slave. When she has begotten (a child), flog her'" A Muslim thinks he is getting a virgin, then finds out that she is pregnant. Muhammad tells him to treat the woman as a sex slave and then flog her after she delivers the child. Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 969 - Requires that a married woman be "put in a separate room and beaten lightly" if she "act in a sexual manner toward others." According to the Hadith, this can be for an offense as petty as merely being alone with a man to whom she is not related. Kash-shaf (the revealer) of al-Zamkhshari (Vol. 1, p. 525) - [Muhammad said] "Hang up your scourge where your wife can see it"
that guy went away thinking islam is much better than corrupted christianity and everyone applauded him even cliff. he must have gone home thinking he did Allah proud.
john lee What did you think should or was going to happen? Cliffe offers Christ, he does not force someone to accept it. Also, this well spoken man, was not showing any signs of sincere desire to convert. He did want to talk & was very civil. Sometimes, that is all you can expect, & other times that is more than most will give. I hope he converts, but he is fully able to choose as an adult. I think that went better than most & as long as he is peaceful, we should happily abide him. Maybe time with Christians in fellowship will change his mind. Either way, I doubt that could have went better.
God bless this muslim he is amazingly objective thats for sure. Cliffe you need to focus with muslims on the fact that the Quran teaches muslims, for example, in surah 3:3-4 the Thora and the Inzil (New Testament) are revelations of Allah and are therefore unchangeable because they are his word (---> and Allah says later on that Jesus is his word and spirit) or Allah commands muslims to go and ask "the people of the book" for explanation and wisdom. God bless you stay strong, in Jesus name I pray, amen.
No I don't respect Muhammad because he did not respect Jews and Christians and Atheists only people of his Religion , look Quran 9:29 absolutely terrible! READ THIS NONSENSE!!!! Fight those who do not believe in God, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid what God and His Messenger have forbidden, nor abide by the religion of truth-from among those who received the Scripture-until they pay the due tax, willingly or unwillingly.
The world was made through Jesus Christ see gospel of John Chapter 1. Sin has deformed us but Jesus came to transform the body, soul, and the spirit. Wikipedia and Holy Spirit Bible are trustworthy. Jesus is the Savior of the world and accepting him in faith qualifies you for heaven and evidence is not required. see www.gotquestions.org
At about 08:00 minutes Cliffe is talking about Mohammad and how Islam came into being ( about 500 years after Christ came and went), Mohammad claimed Jesus was merely a good teacher, but not God, why couldn't Jesus appear to Mohammad in much the same way he appeared to Paul of Tarsus, so that Mohammad would be left in no doubt whatsoever that Jesus was exactly who he said he was?, Instead of an opposing faith coming into being (Islam), surely it would have made perfect sense to use Mohammad as another apostle of Christ to spread the word of Christianity, rather than have 2 opposing faiths which have caused countless millions of deaths.
SeanKimStyle Absolutely not Sean, would it not make sense to you though for Christ to reveal himself to Mohammad ( maybe via a vision), to leave Mohammad in no doubt that Jesus was who he said he was ( the son of God), so that Mohammad could then spread the word of Christ throughout the Middle East, which in turn would have prevented all the bloodshed between the Christians and the Muslims over countless centuries. We're told that God knows everything, surely God would have known that Islam and Christianity would not be a good mix. Are you saying that Christ not revealing himself to Mohammad has worked out well for mankind? Many people would say it's been a catastrophic disaster.
SeanKimStyle Good question Sean, mankind has been around in some form for millions of years, we don't know the exact date that homo sapiens came out of Africa, it was around 150,000 years ago. There was no real 'beginning' as we've evolved from other forms of primates. But if we look around today, many parts of the globe we humans have done pretty well, if you happen to live in the Western world in particular life is pretty good. If you watch Cliffe's video's you certainly see a lot of young students around campus who's lives are infinitely better than the people living thousands of years ago. We are very lucky to be living in these times compared to early man. It's worked out pretty good for many of us.
It's not been a delight Cliffe. The guy played you like a fiddle. He lied all the way through about everything. And he was prepared to lie too. Classical Christian, when things get tough, put the tail between your legs and stay quite. The guy lied about the treaty, he lied about Aisha, he lied about the family of his prophet, he lied about Jesus, he lied about his prophet's wives etc. It was hard to listen to. It makes your blood boils. At least you could have said that your historical account about his prophet was completely different than his account. You did not help the guy at all, he needed to hear the truth, you did not help the crowd to know the truth, you did not help the Christian cause. Jesus would have called the guy whitewash hypocrite! But you are probably harsh on a 16-years-old kid who plays Xbox all day, as I noticed in other videos. We love you Cliffe, but that's a no-no for me.
No were in the bible did jesus claim to be god. i am is not a claim to be god. he is the son of god he said it him self many times. John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. John 5:41-43 “I do not receive honor from men. 42 But I know you, that you do not have the love of God in you. 43 I have come in My Father’s name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive. John 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
quran 9:31 31 They take their rabbis and their monks as lords rather than Allah and the Christ, the son of Mary. And they are not commanded except to serve one god. There is no god except him. Praise to him above what they partner. good luck muslims :3
this is proof quran from god and not corrupted: surah 33 verse 53 O you who have believed, do not enter the houses of the Prophet except when you are permitted for a meal, without awaiting its readiness. But when you are invited, then enter; and when you have eaten, disperse without seeking to remain for conversation. Indeed, that [behavior] was troubling the Prophet, and he is shy of [dismissing] you. But Allah is not shy of the truth. And when you ask [his wives] for something, ask them from behind a partition. That is purer for your hearts and their hearts. And it is not [conceivable or lawful] for you to harm the Messenger of Allah or to marry his wives after him, ever. Indeed, that would be in the sight of Allah an enormity.
But how does it "prove" the quran is from "allah" and not corrupted like you said. Just quoting some words out of a book does not "prove" anything. What your doing is called "circular reasoning" You might want to google that.
Onehappydawg allah is muhammad slave,if you insult allah you ok, but if you insul muhammad you will be dead, so allah is muhammad, quran made by muhammad aka allah. so has never been corrupted
Abdul Malik I've spoken to a few muslims online and I've read most of the quran and some of the hadiths but I've never heard or read anything about muhammad being allah. Can you please tell me how you came to this conclusion? Is this something that is taught throughout all Islam or is this coming from a small sect?
What a humble Muslim. May Jesus bring him to the light.
This is the first time I’m seeing a Muslim participating and answering questions correctly and presenting points correctly so good job my brother.
What a breath of fresh air this gentleman was. I love his genuine curiosity and sincere responses. He is seeking the truth and not picking fights. I pray he finds the truth and Jesus is the truth, the way and the life.
I've never seen an open minded Muslim before..good job both of you
I still haven't..
I still haven't seen one..
If you watch the whole thing he isn't
@@darkeen42 you aren't looking hard enough. C.S. Lewis is a good place to start.
According to Islam he is not a Muslim but a heretic. Simply he rejected part of Islam.
You are such a great witness for such a lost world. May the Lord bless you.
In the book of Revelation Jesus receives the exact same praise and worship as the Father who is sitting on the throne.
"...blessing and honor and glory and power to Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, forever and ever!..."
May God bless you and your family for all the good works and may He also grant you long life to keep doing what we are all born to do.
I love Cliffe's videos, but I have to say, this one might have been his worst. Cliffe let that guy spew pre-programmed lie after lie after lie, and never called him out on any of his lies. If I was an unbiased viewer looking for a faith, I might have actually leaned toward the young man's religion by the way he made it sound. Sometimes I think Cliffe is so concerned with being cordial, that he lets people get away with too much. I love the videos where Cliffe calls people out on their inconsistencies and shows them for the frauds they are. Those are the ones where Cliffe is most effective and powerful.
Giving credit of any kind to murderous and slave-trading person such as Mohammed is offensive to those who seek truth.
+Buddy Fisher your absolutely right Buddy, i love to watch his videos but i was just waiting for Cliff to correct him on what the Qur'an actually talks about and what their prophet Mohammad stands for according to the earliest sources of the Hadiths
+Buddy Fisher
I was surprised he didn't correct him on, 'Muhammad never went on an offensive attack.' Sometimes the Holy Spirit restrains. It has happened to myself. I would look back after a witness effort and think this.
God bless brother Buddy
1 John 3:8
+Buddy Fisher I think Cliff did well to point out the inconsistencies of the Islamic faith and how unreliable it is compared to Christianity. This young man clearly had an agenda to confidently affirm and push the religion of Islam and Cliff of course picked up on that. People need to be handled differently, Cliff is not out to bash people with the Bible but rather help them understand the validity of Christ and how He (Jesus) should be considered as plausible. All the while doing this in Love. Remember the Word of God does not return void and He (God) gives the increase. Thank you Cliff for being a doer of the Word and not just a hearer only. It is easy for anyone of us to make armchair comments. I think if we have any negative comment we should first show videos of our public apologetics and go from there. I praise God for the good works of Cliffe Knechtle.
Jason Falk I do love Cliff's videos and appreciate his ministry. I am certainly no armchair quarterback. Please feel free to check out my youtube channel and see that I don't spend much time on the sidelines.
This has got to be my favorite video so far. This gentleman was so respectful and so insightful. And I love his responses and I loved his questions. More videos like this please!
He claimed there is no contradictions in Quran after admitting he didn't know the verse Cliff quoted from Quran. That tells a lot about him.
Most of them are like this.
The Quran is full of contradictions.
David Wood points this out endlessly.
Mohammed was a lust driven warlord.
A 180 degree spin away from Christ.
Tell hes a blind fool who already made up his mind to follow Islam blindly no matter what....He just came here to convince the rest
It tells us that he hasn’t dedicated his life to Islam. This kid was very respectful and open to discussion. There’s no need to make a dig at him.
Let's not act like every real Christian knows every single verse in the bible
I think you missed the point, the brother is not trying to appear as a scholar, Islam, instead, he wanted to show that he is an every day guy who has questions.
If you noticed he was able to answer any other questions he was able to quote verses from the Quran. He was able to answer delicate questions. he also noticed how the conversation switched from being about Islam and to Isis and terrorism and all this, when this happens, you should always know that the conversation did not go according to plan for the Christian.
It’s almost always the case. Peace.
Even though the Muslim was very courteous, he is unfortunately largely mistaken about his conception of "peaceful" Muhammad, without even knowing it. Just goes to show how young Muslims are indoctrinated by their leaders in the mosques. What I mean by that is, the imams only emphasize Muhammad's good deeds without sharing the atrocious acts he committed.
And yes the Quran does allow wife-beating (Quran 4:34) at a last resort, and Muhammad did hit his wives, including Aisha (Sahih Muslim (4:2127)).
Get David Wood in here now, its about to be a field day
Haha David Woods will shut his mouth.
Jeffin James oh no, quite the opposite actually
Dude David wood honestly obliterates islam daily
Hear, hear!
@@JEFFINJAMES23 You mean David would shut this guy mouth ? Obviously that guy tears Islam and exposes it like anything else lol
Bless that man heart, he seems to be open to Jesus, I pray he continues to search for truth and he finds it in Jesus.❤️
Without sugarcoating Allah is satan and Mohammed married a 6yr old. Ask yourself is this the duo I wanna bet on for eternity or does God and Jesus answer ALL questions and needs.
Forgot to mention the sinless part. That's the difference.
Totally the most important part!
Mohamads grave is full and jesus tomb is empty he is the living God and the judge of all the earth..
Awesome.
very nice... I just hope that he would come to realize that Jesus is what he's been truly searching for. I really like that Cliffe stopped his conversation without probing him with more questions because I also thought that he needs some more time to think by himself... great work Pastor Cliffe~
Matthew 11:30
For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
I use to be a muslim but now im a follower of Christ. I have alot of respect for Muhammad and still believe he was an incredible person, alot of beautiful teachings and lived a life that in honorable and worthy of respect, the only difference is that he was incorrect about who Jesus and God is, Jesus claimed to be God and the evidence is overwhelming and Jesus as God is worthy of all worship, glory and honor. Muhammad was an incredible man, but he was incorrect on some very important truths.
hmmm Cliff is pretty naive about Islam. Jay Smith or David Wood need to have a chat with him.
You gotta step up your Apologetics on Islam Cliff. Just a couple verses from the Quran and the Haddith would've helped this young man to see he's been lied to.
Yeah cliff is not right in not pointing out muhammad was a lieing pedophile monster he has no light in him (Isaiah 8:20 )
Search David Wood
@@hummervs3278 qur'an destroyed the christianity
Cliffe was respectful, but yes because he was so polite, he seemed to get an easy run. He wasn't brought to task on his description of the gospels being corrupted, he left with his faith in Islam untouched.
Can you share those verses? Thanks!
Jesus Christ is Lord 👑🙏Maranatha
18:46 that reaction "bottom left" got my thumbs up lmho
This might be the only Muslim I want to around with he is peaceful and humble Muslim, I have never seen this type of Muslim,respect you Brother❤
If you are a Christian, then he would not be your brother. "To them whom believed on HIM gave HE the power to become the children of GOD". Therefore, since that guy does not believe on CHRIST, then he is not a child of GOD, and therefore would not be your brother.
In one of your videos I heard you say if someone rose from the dead you should listen to them, they’re credible. That made me think about The book of revelation, when the beast rises from the dead & his wound is healed it makes a lot of people believe that he is god & they worship him. So with that in mind it would probably be a good Ideal not to be amazed if someone rose from the dead, seeing as it’s a sign for the beast & the false god.
That is the end time when the judgement time near
Cliffe could have destroyed his points easily and he let him off ahah. Great dialogue but that guy wasn't fooling us.
Cliff didn't want to embarrass him. He knew his lying, and everyone and the muslim himself knew. Just relax 😅
Numbers 6:24-26,
Deuteronomy 28, Joshua 1:7-8
Matthew 6:9-15 & 12:31-32,
Romans 10:9-13,
11 Peter 3:9,
this young man need to read the book 'Seeking Alah, Finding Jesus' by Nabeel Qureshi. He can aslo contact him on facebook and twitter. He was once in the exact same spot as this young man in this video, questions.
I wish if Cliffe has any ideas about Islam. There is a lot of resources out there like...Christian Prince, CIRA international, Anthony Rogers, Sam Shamoun, Rob Christian, Adam Seeker, Brother Rachid, Brother Hussain, and so on.
This guy he is lying to his tooth in every aspect. He has no clue of Islam. Whether he is practicing "takia" (according to Islam you are allowed to lie under three conditions) or he doesn't have any clue about Islam like most Muslims.
The sad part is Cliffe let the guy escape with his fairytale version of Islam.
yes cliff doesnt knows because they dont translate quran correclty :D you and me know :D
and he doesn't knows because they are all liars (who can speak arabic / and deveciving people because they dont understand arabic )
there's one correctly translated quran (Generous quran by usama dakdok ) 100% true ; those so called qurans are translated incorrectly :D
christian prince and rob both are arabic speakers so they know ; hussain also knows ; also CIRA ;
@@Phantom-sg3wr
My advice is, if you are apologist at least you need some basic things to know about Islam because You will encounter them. I know the language barrier but still there is too much information out there.
I have the Quran translated by Brother Osama, that is great. Moreover now we have also "The critical Quran" by Brother Robert Spencer. I am waiting to get it.
If David woods was there instead of Cliffe he would expose Islam and do the so called Prophet Mohammad of his atrocities too
@@stewwweee
That is true. And if Chrisian Prince 🤴 was there he could roasted him perfectly for dinner.
If any one want to learn about Islam...
Christian Prince
David Wood
Anthony Rogers
Rob Christian
Al Fadi (CIRA)
Brother Rachid
Father Zakaria Petros
Robert Spencer
Sam Shamoun
Bob speakers corner
Adam Seeker
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The list goes on and on.
I love pastor Cliffe but not in Islam.
I love your response on 9/11. However, I think if you look at the broader scope of it whether you call it radical Islam or terrorism, then you have to judge the motives behind it or judge accordingly? In saying that, I believe we can not be in denial about what Islam teaches Cliffe?
I have asked a few Muslims in my community, and all of them have a similar response when asked this:
*"How do you interpret your own Quran?"* or *"Is this a literal or figurative interpretation"*
Some refused to answer when asked them on certain passages of their quran? No answer, then simply Islam has no answer don't you think? The Holy Bible is very clear that Jesus is the answer. I can assure you many questions if not all have been answered by our living Jesus by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit and through his living vessels to go out into this world and spread the Gospel.
I think David Wood is very cut throat on the teachings of Muhammad and does not waver. Him and Sam Shamoud on Jesus or Mohammad are very sharp on the teachings of Islam. Similar to how Apostle Paul can rebuke someone like Matthew.
Still love your videos and God bless your ministry brother Cliffe :)
I've been learning a lot about Muhammad over the last year, thanks to referential guys like Dizzle Wood, Sam, AP.
I really hope the Knechtles start to really read into Islam as well, and truly realize just how much hypocrisy and corruption there is within "Muhammad's" teaching.
Yup this is what i thought ...This guy left as he did something great for Allah . He lied everything and also said Bible corrupted also doesn't know the verse of Quran yet he still believes in it says a lot about him.
@@stewwweee same could be said for countless Christians.
This Muslim is not Honest! He is lying at his Teeth
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣This abdul is lieing his as off
One more thing about Islam that you may want to point out is how, in 3:31-32 and 30:43-45 of the Qur'an, it says that Allah does not love unbelievers. Allah's love is contingent upon the belief or unbelief of the person, which shows that Muslims have a defective concept of God (in other words, on Islam, God is not all-loving). For another reference, William Lane Craig also makes this argument in his work.
+Kevin Watson Hi again Kevin, I'm taking that from what you are saying you believe the Christian God of the bible to be 'all loving'. You say Allah's love is contingent upon whether a person believes in Allah, .. well isn't the Christian Gods love also contingent upon whether I accept him? As you know, I reject him in the same way I reject all other deity claims. So, on that basis, according to Christianity what is my fate for not believing in a God without what I see as credible evidence? Do you believe God will be all loving to those who lack belief in him?. Obviously I'm talking about Hell, how can an 'all loving' God even create a place called Hell if he is 'all loving'? .. you used the phrase 'defective concept of God' in reference to the Islamic God, well, I'd use that same phrase to describe the Christian God. Any God that has a concept of hell, cannot be 'all loving' as I see it.
+bonnie43uk Hi Bonnie, first point you know God exists everyone does you just suppress the truth about him because you want to continue to live in your sin whatever it is. Hell is a place where Evil/Sin will ultimately dwell forever. If there is know Hell evil ultimately wins in the end. God loves everyone but not all people love God, and God wont force anyone into his presence for eternity, So you will end up with what you want in the end( A Godless life/Eternity) You know what Jesus Did for you and no other God did that NONE!. He's reliable with enough evidence to trust him with confidence that what he says is true. The bible says that your spiritually blind. Time is running out for you we are getting old and dont know if we have tomorrow. Stop spending so much time on these forums and take a moment to ask God if your real reveal yourself to me. You must be genuine and i promise he will make him known to you in some unique way i promise. Have a great night.
Alangiuroiu Hi Alan, thanks for your reply. Regarding your first point, you say "Everyone knows God exists, but they just suppress it because they want to sin". That's very presumptuous to say we all know God exists, I'd be quite interested to know how you know this for certain, and maybe more importantly how do you *know* that God exists?, how does he reveal himself to you personally? Regarding 'sin' what sins am I committing that you seem so sure about. I'm not aware of any wrongdoings that I am doing. I have done things in the past which I shouldn't have done, the last thing I can remember doing that got me into trouble was about 40 years ago, and I paid a heavy price for that in many ways, we learn from our mistakes and change our ways. Life is a learning process.
I don't spend that much time in these forums, certainly not as much as it may seem. I enjoy watching Cliffe's video's and his interaction with the students, I normally post a comment and answer a few replies, it doesn't take that much time out of my day, I lead a full and active life and have lots of other interests, I love sports..I can't play anymore due to various ailments and age catching up with me, but today, being Saturday, i will follow my soccer team Swindon Town FC, we have a big game against Coventry away from home, we are taking about 2,000 fans to cheer the team on.
But yes, I enjoy these chats about faith, it's an interesting subject for me. If it works for you, all well and good.
YHWH † behold The Hand Behold the Nail Don't worry. I am a Christian and have been for several years now.
bonnie43uk First, think about what you are arguing against and compare it to what I am arguing against. I'm arguing against the concept of God in Islam, based on verses from the Qur'an that say, verbatim, that God does not love unbelievers. You are not arguing against the Christian concept of God. By saying, "How can an all-loving God create a place like hell?" you are not attacking the Christian concept of God. You are arguing that the Christian concept of God is inconsistent with what the Bible affirms (i.e. that hell exists).
You ask if God's love is contingent upon whether you accept Him. Absolutely not. Here are some verses to consider:
John 3:16: "For God so loved *the world*, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life." The term "the world" is important here because it is a universal term that means, in this verse, all people. God loves all people, even sinners.
Romans 5:8: "But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." Have you ever thought of that? Now, I know that you don't believe that Jesus rose from the dead, but that is not the point here. The point is that if He did, then He has done it *to save people while they were still sinners*. God's love doesn't come into doubt when He dies for people who don't even yet believe in Him. If Jesus really rose from the dead, then He has died and risen for you, too, no matter if you reject Him or not.
There are many other examples in the Bible, but the point is clear. The Christian God loves all people unconditionally, and this is not the concept of God in Islam.
So the point here is consistency. Now that we've established that the Bible teaches that God is all-loving, is this consistent with the idea of hell and punishment for one's sins? Here, another property of God emerges: justice. God is just, and as such, He punishes evil. Now remember that in the Judeo-Christian worldview, God does not punish us merely for the collection of finite sins that we commit. It is ultimately rejection of God that warrants our quarantine from Him. I agree with Alangiuroiu here; ultimately those who go to hell are where they want to be, separated from God. Some argue that this sin (rejection of God) is eternally punishable; I think that this is a good point. Another good point is that sins are still committed in hell. I think that it's safe to assume that there will be a tremendous and overwhelming hatred of God in hell. These people don't want God; why would God force them to be with Him?
Another point is that you have a faulty concept of hell. From my understanding, you think of hell as Dante's Inferno thinks of hell, as a place where sinners are eternally tortured. But this is not the biblical concept of hell. I'm sorry if you were raised with a fear of hell because of how it was taught to you. I understand that that fear can be deep and hard to escape from. I once feared hell, too. But it is not a cosmic torture chamber, and above all do not allow it to keep you from God Himself, who is the giver of life and source of all good in the world. That would be a tragic mistake to make.
Even you said in a previous conversation that separation from God doesn't sound like a bad thing. I think that you are dead wrong. If God exists, then He is the source of life, love, and all of the beauty and good in the world. To be separated from Him for eternity would be terrible. You will say that you reject Him on the basis of a lack of evidence. Fine. But remember what a slippery slope that can be. I agree with you that if there are good reasons to reject God's existence and a lack of good reasons to accept it, then you should reject His existence. But what if He does exist? Paul says in Romans 1 that because God's existence is evident, we are without excuse. Make sure that you are searching for evidence in an unbiased way and that you are serious in this search because it could determine where you spend eternity (if there is an afterlife, of course).
If God exists, then He has left us adequate evidence for His existence. This is the most important point that I can stress, and I'd love to talk about that evidence with you.
Kevin Watson Hi Kevin, ok, what do you consider to be the evidence for God?, I think we may have been over this before if you are going to present me with William Lane Craig's Cosmological argument we may grind to a halt because as I've mentioned to you, philosophical discussions about un-caused causes and prime movers are way beyond my level of understanding. Science doesn't currently know how the universe came into being as I understand it, but Craig asserts with certainty that it had to be the Christian God. I know it's something you are keen on, but I don't think the average person can cope with those kind of thoughts, I leave that to the likes of Craig and Sean Carroll.
Why doesn't God provide me with credible easily understandable evidence of his existence.? Proof of a miracle would do nicely, not necessarily for my benefit, but for the person being healed, I've given you the example of an amputee, God doesn't seem to heal amputees. Maybe that would be a good topic for discussion rather than complex Kalam cosmological arguments concerning the origins of the universe, which physicists are currently working on.
Or, if you are asserting that being separated from God would be, in your words 'terrible' and you are asserting that God is 'all loving' why would an all loving God be prepared to allow me to go to a terrible place?, If God has it within his power to prevent me from going to that terrible place, and for whatever reason, I end up there and he could have prevented it, then surely he is culpable. If I put myself in his shoes of being all loving and all knowing, then I would prevent anyone from being separated from me and going to a terrible place. I do also realize that 'putting myself in Gods shoes' may seem foolish, but I can only view God from my own perspective surely. If it seems logical to me that if God is all loving, I can't see how he can allow bad things to happen. But i know Craig's argument would be that we cannot know the mind of God, God may well see the bigger picture. In that case, God could justify any horror imaginable and we'd have to say "We cannot question God's ultimate purpose, for he can see the bigger picture", but that's not much comfort if you are being tortured in a concentration camp is it. I can easily see how many Jews lost all faith in God due to their hopeless dire situation, and if it turned out there *was* a God afterall, would their rejection of God in that hopeless situation be even more compounded by being sent to hell for losing faith in God as they were being gassed?. Now there's an interesting question. Or maybe it's a mute point because all Jews go to heaven because they are Gods chosen people. But that makes no sense to me as none of us get to say into what religion we will be born. Again, we go back to God being all loving, why would he favor one nation over another if he loves all of us equally? It takes me back to my question about Mohammad, why didn't God appear to him to leave him in no doubt that Christianity was true rather than Islam, then have Mohammad spread the word of Christ, that makes perfect sense to me. Why would God allow Mohammad to start a rival faith
As you said Kevin, you believe the Christian God loves all people unconditionally, unlike the the concept of God in Islam.. so God could have came to Mohammad as he did to Paul of Tarsus and converted Mohammad to Christianity instead of Islam. Imagine the bloodshed and hatred this could have prevented had Mohammad spread the word of Christianity. What is the logic of allowing Mohammad to begin a rival faith to Christianity?, if Gods purpose of revealing himself to Paul via a revelation was to spread the word of Jesus's salvation of mankind, then he could easily have done the same to Mohammad.. win/win situation as I see it for Christianity.
I seem to recall a few weeks ago you'd said you'd pray for me that I may find God. Has God given you any feedback or indication as to how it's going?, I've had nothing at this end. As I see it, this only confirms my suspicions that God probably doesn't exist. That is a serious question btw, I'm not being facetious, has God given you any kind of reply?, and if so, in what form did Gods reply come to you? I would be genuinely interested to know if, or how God has contacted you.
That guy in black is a complete liar.
+Josh Jeggs I think, like all or most Muslims, they actually believe what they are saying without looking at the evidence.
+Josh Jeggs What's he lying about?
@@PaleMistthat Muhammad was a saint lol, dude murdered people and married a 6 year old to have sex with her 3 years later.
That doesn't speak God to me.
I truly respect this gentleman. He is very respectful, intelligent and humble when he speaks with Cliff. I would disagree with the statement that he made, "That it does not say to abuse your wife in the Quran."
Quran (4:34) - "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great." Contemporary translations sometimes water down the word 'beat', but it is the same one used in verse 8:12 and clearly means 'to strike'.
Quran (38:44) - "And take in your hand a green branch and beat her with it, and do not break your oath..." Allah telling Job to beat his wife (Tafsir).
In the Hadith and Sira, it is mentioned more often:
Sahih Bukhari (72:715) - A woman came to Muhammad and begged her to stop her husband from beating her. Her skin was bruised so badly that it is described as being "greener" than the green veil she was wearing. Muhammad did not admonish her husband, but instead ordered her to return to him and submit to his sexual desires.
Sahih Bukhari (72:715) - "Aisha said, 'I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women'" Muhammad's own wife complained of the abuse that the women of her religion suffered relative to other women.
Sahih Muslim (4:2127) - Muhammad struck his favorite wife, Aisha, in the chest one evening when she left the house without his permission. Aisha narrates, "He struck me on the chest which caused me pain."
Sahih Muslim (9:3506) - Muhammad's fathers-in-law (Abu Bakr and Umar) amused him by slapping his wives (Aisha and Hafsa) for annoying him. According to the Hadith, the prophet of Islam laughed upon hearing this.
Abu Dawud (2141) - "Iyas bin ‘Abd Allah bin Abi Dhubab reported the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) as saying: Do not beat Allah’s handmaidens, but when ‘Umar came to the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) and said: Women have become emboldened towards their husbands, he (the Prophet) gave permission to beat them." At first, Muhammad forbade men from beating their wives, but he rescinded this once it was reported that women were becoming emboldened toward their husbands. Beatings in a Muslim marriage are sometimes necessary to keep women in their place.
Abu Dawud (2142) - "The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife."
Abu Dawud (2126) - "A man from the Ansar called Basrah said: 'I married a virgin woman in her veil. When I entered upon her, I found her pregnant. (I mentioned this to the Prophet).' The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: 'She will get the dower, for you made her vagina lawful for you. The child will be your slave. When she has begotten (a child), flog her'" A Muslim thinks he is getting a virgin, then finds out that she is pregnant. Muhammad tells him to treat the woman as a sex slave and then flog her after she delivers the child.
Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 969 - Requires that a married woman be "put in a separate room and beaten lightly" if she "act in a sexual manner toward others." According to the Hadith, this can be for an offense as petty as merely being alone with a man to whom she is not related.
Kash-shaf (the revealer) of al-Zamkhshari (Vol. 1, p. 525) - [Muhammad said] "Hang up your scourge where your wife can see it"
most respectful muslim ever
that guy went away thinking islam is much better than corrupted christianity and everyone applauded him even cliff. he must have gone home thinking he did Allah proud.
+john lee ha ha ha ha
john lee
What did you think should or was going to happen? Cliffe offers Christ, he does not force someone to accept it. Also, this well spoken man, was not showing any signs of sincere desire to convert. He did want to talk & was very civil. Sometimes, that is all you can expect, & other times that is more than most will give. I hope he converts, but he is fully able to choose as an adult.
I think that went better than most & as long as he is peaceful, we should happily abide him. Maybe time with Christians in fellowship will change his mind. Either way, I doubt that could have went better.
God bless this muslim he is amazingly objective thats for sure. Cliffe you need to focus with muslims on the fact that the Quran teaches muslims, for example, in surah 3:3-4 the Thora and the Inzil (New Testament) are revelations of Allah and are therefore unchangeable because they are his word (---> and Allah says later on that Jesus is his word and spirit) or Allah commands muslims to go and ask "the people of the book" for explanation and wisdom. God bless you stay strong, in Jesus name I pray, amen.
Wake up you are sleeping
@@nasibudarbi2600 yeah I converted brother. Come on.! Let's met up and kill the unbelievers hahahaha
Bra support ppl going to jail over religious believe
Perfect example of a Muslim and islam in general.
Kid clearly doesn’t know much about Muhammad. Almost everything he said was wrong.
No I don't respect Muhammad because he did not respect Jews and Christians and Atheists only people of his Religion , look Quran 9:29 absolutely terrible! READ THIS NONSENSE!!!!
Fight those who do not believe in God, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid what God and His Messenger have forbidden, nor abide by the religion of truth-from among those who received the Scripture-until they pay the due tax, willingly or unwillingly.
The world was made through Jesus Christ see gospel of John Chapter 1. Sin has deformed us but Jesus came to transform the body, soul, and the spirit. Wikipedia and Holy Spirit Bible are trustworthy. Jesus is the Savior of the world and accepting him in faith qualifies you for heaven and evidence is not required. see www.gotquestions.org
At about 08:00 minutes Cliffe is talking about Mohammad and how Islam came into being ( about 500 years after Christ came and went), Mohammad claimed Jesus was merely a good teacher, but not God, why couldn't Jesus appear to Mohammad in much the same way he appeared to Paul of Tarsus, so that Mohammad would be left in no doubt whatsoever that Jesus was exactly who he said he was?, Instead of an opposing faith coming into being (Islam), surely it would have made perfect sense to use Mohammad as another apostle of Christ to spread the word of Christianity, rather than have 2 opposing faiths which have caused countless millions of deaths.
***** Ok, i will do that :-)
is God obligated to show himself to anyone?
SeanKimStyle Absolutely not Sean, would it not make sense to you though for Christ to reveal himself to Mohammad ( maybe via a vision), to leave Mohammad in no doubt that Jesus was who he said he was ( the son of God), so that Mohammad could then spread the word of Christ throughout the Middle East, which in turn would have prevented all the bloodshed between the Christians and the Muslims over countless centuries. We're told that God knows everything, surely God would have known that Islam and Christianity would not be a good mix.
Are you saying that Christ not revealing himself to Mohammad has worked out well for mankind? Many people would say it's been a catastrophic disaster.
+bonnie43uk has man kind ever worked out from the beginning?
SeanKimStyle Good question Sean, mankind has been around in some form for millions of years, we don't know the exact date that homo sapiens came out of Africa, it was around 150,000 years ago. There was no real 'beginning' as we've evolved from other forms of primates.
But if we look around today, many parts of the globe we humans have done pretty well, if you happen to live in the Western world in particular life is pretty good. If you watch Cliffe's video's you certainly see a lot of young students around campus who's lives are infinitely better than the people living thousands of years ago. We are very lucky to be living in these times compared to early man. It's worked out pretty good for many of us.
It's not been a delight Cliffe. The guy played you like a fiddle. He lied all the way through about everything. And he was prepared to lie too. Classical Christian, when things get tough, put the tail between your legs and stay quite. The guy lied about the treaty, he lied about Aisha, he lied about the family of his prophet, he lied about Jesus, he lied about his prophet's wives etc. It was hard to listen to. It makes your blood boils. At least you could have said that your historical account about his prophet was completely different than his account. You did not help the guy at all, he needed to hear the truth, you did not help the crowd to know the truth, you did not help the Christian cause. Jesus would have called the guy whitewash hypocrite! But you are probably harsh on a 16-years-old kid who plays Xbox all day, as I noticed in other videos. We love you Cliffe, but that's a no-no for me.
You sound pathetic wow lol.
Hopefully by now Cliff has educated himself on the Quran more
Islam and the quran do not speak God to me, Jesus and Bible do.
No were in the bible did jesus claim to be god. i am is not a claim to be god. he is the son of god he said it him self many times. John 5:30
I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. John 5:41-43
“I do not receive honor from men. 42 But I know you, that you do not have the love of God in you. 43 I have come in My Father’s name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive. John 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
"In him was no sin"
You can't simply be human and not commit sin, he was part man and part God.
The accusations that bible corrupted need to be answered immediately, otherwise he still believing that bible corrupted and his accusation is valid.
quran 9:31
31 They take their rabbis and
their monks as lords rather than Allah and the Christ, the son of Mary. And they
are not commanded except to serve one god. There is no god except him. Praise
to him above what they partner.
good luck muslims :3
Let's pray this guy sees the lies in islam through other youtube channels
this is proof quran from god and not corrupted: surah 33 verse 53 O you who have believed, do not enter the houses of the Prophet except when you are permitted for a meal, without awaiting its readiness. But when you are invited, then enter; and when you have eaten, disperse without seeking to remain for conversation. Indeed, that [behavior] was troubling the Prophet, and he is shy of [dismissing] you. But Allah is not shy of the truth. And when you ask [his wives] for something, ask them from behind a partition. That is purer for your hearts and their hearts. And it is not [conceivable or lawful] for you to harm the Messenger of Allah or to marry his wives after him, ever. Indeed, that would be in the sight of Allah an enormity.
+Abdul Malik I'm sorry but I don't understand how you are linking this surah to the quran being uncorrupted. I just don't get the connection.
Onehappydawg this surah for muhammad only, allah is slave of muhammad.
But how does it "prove" the quran is from "allah" and not corrupted like you said.
Just quoting some words out of a book does not "prove" anything.
What your doing is called "circular reasoning"
You might want to google that.
Onehappydawg allah is muhammad slave,if you insult allah you ok, but if you insul muhammad you will be dead, so allah is muhammad, quran made by muhammad aka allah. so has never been corrupted
Abdul Malik I've spoken to a few muslims online and I've read most of the quran and some of the hadiths but I've never heard or read anything about muhammad being allah.
Can you please tell me how you came to this conclusion? Is this something that is taught throughout all Islam or is this coming from a small sect?