The main reason why Media chose the Mavs was because they said Luka was the best player on the court and completely ignored that Celtics had a far superior team. Now they are questioning if he's top 5 . 🤣🤣🤣
🤣 never understood that idea the Celtics had 6players in the top 50 they were collective unit not one player in the Celtics stood out like at all Luka stood out more he is the 2nd best player in the NBA he was aweful
Thank u this is the only correct answer… I made a list of the best 25 in the league this year and I got both of them below top 10 cause there are players that are just better than them
Tatum is around the 6-8 best in the league rn, jb I believe is in the 15-18ish area. Just a really well built team, and a total team effort for the chip. It’s rare u have a team that’s best player isn’t a firm top 5 player win it all, I tend to just congratulate the entire Celtics team and give Tatum the edge over players like sga Brunson ant and others who haven’t had the same successes as Tatum
What?!?! Just because Luka didn’t win that doesn’t take away from his accomplishments, if that was the case then nobody would have any accomplishments!!!! All the greats lost at least once.
@hooligan5381 jokic,luka,giannis,embiid,tatum are all better than kd at this point of his career. I would also put lebron and shai over kd... How many times is he gonna get swept until people realize he is not the same player he use to be
Jaylen brown definition of role model Youngest ever teach at Harvard his foundation is amazing stuff like that save kids lives more focus need be on that very important
He's a one way player, the Luka fans can't dispute that and if they do, they are being disingenuous. Dude needs to work on defensive effort, as well as his body.
@@OtakuMainerI can tell you for fs if it was Jayson or Jaylen on the mavs instead of luka they don’t even get to the finals. Luka still top 5 whether his defense lacking or not(which it is)
bottomline here is people should value defense more. offense is weighted so drastically but its defense that actually leads to winning. the strength of the Js is defense.
Most anyone can play defense it's more about effort not too many people have the talent to be an offensive player you have to score to win that's why offensive is valued more common sense right
It’s crazy, Kobe & Bron get criticized for having 2 all star caliber players next to them and winning but now we’re just gonna accept this stacked roster. I’m still curious to what they would’ve done against a healthy East or without Jrue or White
Windy said it best, it’s a collective roster. I think JB is a better all around player than JT. Who’s more clutch than Luka? Leading a mid team in the West to a finals with injuries. Y’all getting disrespectful
I could make the argument for JT at 5th. First team all NBA for the past couple of years, gets it done on both ends, and just won a championship. His numbers don't jump out like the other top 5 guys because of the way his team is structured but let's not forget he averaged 30 just last year. In no particular order id say it's Giannis, Jokic, Luka, Embiid, then Tatum. Guys like Bron, KD, and Steph will always be great but they aren't in a position where they're competing for championships anymore.
5:30 Did you notice when he brought up KD? When molly pointed out and he realised that all of his top 5 were international players. And then he started raving about KD, Curry, LBJ and Ant. The insecurity is unreal.
Impact wise there is an argument, but 90% of basketball fans nowadays r box score watchers, people were really thinking Luka should’ve got finals mvp in a loss when he wasn’t even a top 2-3 player in this series
One thing that is not being discussed enough is that we rarely talked about the Celtics turnovers during this playoff run. The thing that was their undoing in the past against the Warriors/Heat was essentially eliminated. Major credit to Tatum, Brown and Brad specifically and joe
Yup they had 15+ almost every game in that 22 run. Much more purpose with the ball as a whole. That alone is a difference maker when you aren't just giving the ball away. I'd say better shot selection and ball movement was the other. They always had a crazy good defense, which somehow got even better.
This literally is a new era of basketball. It use to be the era of dominance where one team dominates for a stretch. Lebron dominated, then Steph dominated, then KD had his time of dominance. But now we have Jokic, Giannis, Tatum, all eating right now. NBA is deffinently in a great spot for the player. Though fans are definently in question due to thek clearly just wanting 1 person to win again and again (You know, Normie ish).
Not true at all. Injuries have ruined the past 4 years of the playoffs. We haven’t been seeing one of the most dominant players in Kawhi consistently play in the playoffs. Giannis, ad here and there, Jimmy, Randle, Embid, Hali, dmitch.
Yes he was. In what world does leading the team in points rebounds and assists not make him the best player on the team? A delusional world, thats what.
Anthony Davis is the best 2-way player, Kawhi when healthy would also be in that discussion. AD can defend all 5 positions and in the 2023 playoffs, he guarded Curry down the stretch. Jaylen and Anthony Edwards are in the top 10, but not better than Davis and Kawhi. Bron in Miami was a true definition of a 2-way player, my god he was a beast.
@@fabioexploresyou can’t really call it either way. Giannis at his peak was the MVP and DPOY in 2020 and got completely washed and out clutched by Jimmy in the first round. And then he won a ring and then it hasn’t really been the same since
@@NK-mr3rh AD showed when healthy that year that he was the best big man in the game. He outplayed Jokic in this year's playoffs, but the role players became the deciding factor this time. I think AD will have an incredible season, next season
It’s not about the best players, it’s about being the best fit in the best situation. The best fit is style of play and health, and the best situation is roster, coach, management, and salary.
Tatum ain’t top 5 and this series proved it. He’s been the third best player on this team all finals and maybe the entire postseason. Jaylen brown been the best
@@Monaco377 no it’s not a stupid comment. He’s also taken the most shots and shoots 28% from 3 and less than 40% from the field. He been inefficient. Jaylen brown won finals mvp because he was the best player in this series Tatum averaged like 17 ppg in the first 2 or 3 games. You simply lack the iq and brain to see that
The reason Boston were targeting Luka was not because he is bad defensively because he is not and Boston didn’t shoot the basket well when they going against him. The reason they did it was to wear him down and try to reduce his incredible offensive game. He still scored 30ppg with 47% FG in the series with no help.
Everyone else allow them to play a half court game to rest him up but Boston took it to him couldn't and didn't play defense that's why they did him that way he wasn't running up and down the court because he's tired he wasn't in shape
Jaylen Brown didn’t prove nothing these playoffs????? He had a great performance even took over in the finals never had an off game and he top 15???? He definitely #10
Brown is literally my favourite basketball player, but they ain't Top 5 sorry and they don't need to. Jokic, Embiid, Luka, Shai, Giannis are my Top 5. Tatum is a comfortable Top 10 player imo and Brown Top 15.
LOOOOL I've had enough KD is top 5 but Luka isn't GTFOH. KD has been swept in the 1st round twice in 3 years, Luka has made the WCF and Final in those years. Also Head to Head all time Luka 8-5 (Luka 32/8.5/8 KD 25.5/7/5). Luka is top 3 .
She crazy asf... and they keep talking about defense as if defense is what makes you a superstar, imagine being trash offensively and a all-defensive caliber player 😂😂, youre just tony allen or worse killian hayes 🤣🤣🤣... man media is something else. Yall gotta stop with this " hes a bad defender agenda"
Yea she lost all credibility with that take. Luka is still Luka. This series is an indictment on Kyrie than anybody else, he didn't show up when he was needed most!
bro people be GLAZING Tatum like crazyyyy, they literally forgot that in the 5 finals games he played this year, he put up 3 stinkers.. like how is that top 5?
I love brown, but part of that efficiency is due to having so many other offensive threats on his team that the defense also has to focus on. Jokic, Giannis, Embiid, Luka, Shai, and Tatum are all still better with players like AD, KD, Steph, and Bron still in the conversation
5:30 Did you notice when he brought up KD, Bron, Streph and Ant? When molly pointed out and he realised that all of his top 5 were international players. And then he started raving about KD, Curry, LBJ and Ant. The bias is unreal.
Crazy statement, they want to push international players sooooo hard. American players still dominate, point in case brown and Tatum just demolished Luka in the finals. Both 2 way players not 1 way
Shai, Ant, and Embiid all belong in that 4 - 6 spot. They are just a tier behind the 3 you mentioned. Then I’ve still got LBJ at 7 in a tier of his own tbh. After that, I’m willing to debate 8 - 10
Tatum definitely clears luka. Putting up 70 points during a regular season game is cool, but no team is gunna allow you to do that in the Playoffs, AND, how are you the "best player" but you're getting targeted on Defense? Make it make sense. I believe he's top 5, but I'm taking Tatum ahead of him.
I feel like an argument could be made for taking Embiid's spot because of the lack of postseason success which we have a large sample size for now but honestly I'd be satisfied with JT being top 10 and JB being top 15.
My order as of 2024: Giannis, Jokic, Embiid, Luka, Steph, Tatum, Lebron, KD, Edwards, AD. Tatum not Top 5, and tbh, there’s an argument for Bron and KD are arguably still better What do y’all think?
@@soji4477 Where would you put SGA? If you had a draft today to only play for a single season, would you pick AD to start your team with and build around or would you pick SGA?
Jrue and DW are the ultimate glue sticks. Put them on any contender and they probably get over the top. They seem to make the right plays at the right times
There’s levels to superstardom that make a top 5.. You got pure elite scorers who you have to triple team (Curry, Embiid, KD), you got two way players (Giannis, Kawhi, Shai, Butler, Ant) then you have facilitating scorers (Jokic, Lebron, Luka). I would put JT and JB in the two way player category and idk if they’re that much better than those guys. So they’re out of my top 5, maybe in top 10.
@@helpjdjfacts! JT is a volume shooter who jacks up a lot of shots. Sometimes he’s on sometimes he’s not. I’ll give him credit for picking up the slack in other areas but he was inefficient all playoffs
Jaylen Brown and Tatum looks at Ant Edwards and Luka as lil bro. It will be hard to beat the Celtics the next 5 years based on Chemistry, Skill, Age and Size.
C's were 23-7 against the West, that's a better winning % than anyone in the Western playoffs had against the conference. C's never lost three in a row. They lost one season series, to the Nuggets. They went gentleman's sweep, gentleman's sweep, sweep, gentleman's sweep to the trophy. They were utterly dominant.
jordan needed pippen bron needed wade kyrie and ad kareem needed magic and oscar robertson kobe needed shaq and pau gasol stope this nonsense. but with that being said i dont think either or top 5 players in the league
brians arguments are so self contradicting, he says it himself that Lukas defense is a liability and yet he would build a team around Luka solely because he believes his flaws are controllable? U can't have a debate based on what u think he CAN be, u base it on what he is now
Shai is in my top 5 easily. He didn’t get mentioned just because his team didn’t make it that far, but that dude carried his team through the playoffs.
Tatum is top 6-8 at best. Brown is maybe just outside of 10. The Celtics are just the best team in the NBA, they have been for probably he past 2-3 years that's why they've been criticised the most because they haven't live up to the expectations. The credit should mostly go to Brad Stevens for assembling this team, it's not just about Tatum and Brown. They never would've done it without Jrue, Porzingis, White and the others, anyone of them could've been FMVP
If you’re not a 3 dimensional player offense, defense and playmaking.. you aren’t in the conversation of best player! So yes Tatum and Brown are the best players in the league!
I agree about the part of being a two way player and the assists should be avg for position at least to qualify. But I could never put a Luka up there because his defensive liability is just that bad.
Tatum is way ahead of Luka just merely for the very simple fact Tatum plays great defense while Luka doesn’t AND spend most of the time whining, flopping, and complaining to the refs!
@@josueselengembuly3697Tatum is miles better than Brown. Lets see how they play with the tables turned where Brown gets doubled and Tatum doesnt. Brown turnovers for days.
Tatum doesn't play "great" defense... he plays good defense. If you even watched the finals, Luka doesn't mind getting Tatum switched onto him. And when Tatum guards Luka, Luka scores > 50% of the time. But yes, Luka's defense is concerning. But talent wise, Luka is still better than Tatum.
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The main reason why Media chose the Mavs was because they said Luka was the best player on the court and completely ignored that Celtics had a far superior team. Now they are questioning if he's top 5 . 🤣🤣🤣
Idiots
Yeah Luka was the best but number 2 - 6 or 7 were all Celtics.
He ain’t top 5 don’t worry
Only Luka can take his team to the Finals and get knocked off their top 5 😂
🤣 never understood that idea the Celtics had 6players in the top 50 they were collective unit not one player in the Celtics stood out like at all Luka stood out more he is the 2nd best player in the NBA he was aweful
This team doesn't win without Jrue and Derrick White
You Hear yourself? You said it team! Everyone’s contributing buddy.
Neither do the warriors without Poole and draymond in 2022😂😂😂
@@perckensborde6004thats not the point this dumb broad said “jayson tatum led his team “ witch is completely false jaylen won finals mvp 😂😂
yea it does when you have a great coach.
Jordan wouldn't have won without Ron Harper and Toni Kukoc. See how we can spin any win?
Yo who tf is LUKER ? 😂
Kember Walker 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Luker Kennard
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lukerr lol
As a Celtics fan I'll say both of them are top 15. It's a stacked league so there is no shame in that.
Thank u this is the only correct answer… I made a list of the best 25 in the league this year and I got both of them below top 10 cause there are players that are just better than them
@@ShyAntMan1774 now I didn't say where I'd rank them cause it probably would be higher than most. But there is so much talent in this league.
JT is top 10. Outside of 5 you’re splitting hairs
Tatum is around the 6-8 best in the league rn, jb I believe is in the 15-18ish area. Just a really well built team, and a total team effort for the chip. It’s rare u have a team that’s best player isn’t a firm top 5 player win it all, I tend to just congratulate the entire Celtics team and give Tatum the edge over players like sga Brunson ant and others who haven’t had the same successes as Tatum
@@ShyAntMan1774You're lying to yourself if you have Tatum outside of top 10. I can't even see an argument for below like 8th.
Luka at 6? After that playoff run? Lady is on crack
Racist
Luka shouldn’t even be in top 10
Only Luka can get knocked off their top 5 after taking his team to the Finals 😂
@@808bboarder ur a okc fan so im not shocked u dont know ball
What?!?! Just because Luka didn’t win that doesn’t take away from his accomplishments, if that was the case then nobody would have any accomplishments!!!! All the greats lost at least once.
It’s 2024 KD is NOT a top 5 player anymore…
Still is buddy. Watch the game
@@hhtheofficiallive watch the playoffs. Dude gets smothered by defenders. Swept 2 times in 3 years.
@@Pasta-_- Dude gets smothered by who??? Wat were his numbers in these playoffs
@@Pasta-_- You might be in for a surprise when you check his numbers despite the sweep LOL
How dare you.
Stephen a still putting kd in the top 5 is hilarious
kd still better than jt/jb
@@sneakyf7668exactly
its's not 5 guys better than KD tho even at 35
I would too
@hooligan5381 jokic,luka,giannis,embiid,tatum are all better than kd at this point of his career. I would also put lebron and shai over kd... How many times is he gonna get swept until people realize he is not the same player he use to be
Dammit Molly stop interrupting
I wish she would get fired or quit all she used to be was eye candy now she not even that
Stop being sexist
not sexist she keeps doing it its been happening for weeks
@@alexanderspriggs5273 it’s been going on for years
@@hulk6452 stop being a simp it's inappropriate to interrupt someone talking
Jaylen brown definition of role model Youngest ever teach at Harvard his foundation is amazing stuff like that save kids lives more focus need be on that very important
I need what you’re smoking , teach at Harvard 😂
@@CyphCatbruh you must be slow, Jaylen Brown is literally the youngest person to ever give a speech at Harvard
Ya lacking information bro Jaylen Brown did teach a class at Harvard University look it up@@CyphCat
@@CyphCat He's lectured at Harvard, he's a fellow at MIT.
Not better than LeBron
There are arguably 10 dudes better than kd at this point 😂
easily
You know nothing about ball dude! Chill out. KD is a walking legend period.
Kd at 37 is better than 95% of the league
@@helpjdj
98%😉
99%
So glad we can finally forget about that 08 ring those Celtics been draggin since then 😭
U can't forget the Truth, or ANYTHING IS POSSIBLEEEEEEE
This ring is gotta be more annoying esp since it was a easy path
@@youngcity4241 man theres an asterix for literally every chip
@@youngcity4241the Celtics legit are just better than everyone, they have like 7 scorers most teams have 1-2 good scorers
MAN.. I’ve been saying this for years lmao. I just hope this team doesn’t underachieve like the 08 team.. that team should of had at LEAST 2 rings
Having Luka top 6 is diabolical
Boy just got worked, it’s deserved
He's a one way player, the Luka fans can't dispute that and if they do, they are being disingenuous. Dude needs to work on defensive effort, as well as his body.
@@OtakuMainerI can tell you for fs if it was Jayson or Jaylen on the mavs instead of luka they don’t even get to the finals. Luka still top 5 whether his defense lacking or not(which it is)
Luka top 2
@@bryceaugust3329speak on it they don’t get it
They’re definitely the best duo now. There’s not 10 players better than Brown. The fact that Haliburton got all nba over Brown is crazy.
There’s finna be a whole lot of nasty takes this summer😂
Yup😂
bottomline here is people should value defense more. offense is weighted so drastically but its defense that actually leads to winning. the strength of the Js is defense.
5 Lukas vs 5 Jrues
Who wins?
@@daviiwonder 5 Jrues - there arent enough basketballs for 5 Lukas, they'd tear each other apart screaming for the ball.
5 Lukas would give you 160 PPG defensively
@@daviiwonder I’m betting my house on team Luka
Most anyone can play defense it's more about effort not too many people have the talent to be an offensive player you have to score to win that's why offensive is valued more common sense right
It’s crazy, Kobe & Bron get criticized for having 2 all star caliber players next to them and winning but now we’re just gonna accept this stacked roster. I’m still curious to what they would’ve done against a healthy East or without Jrue or White
Windy said it best, it’s a collective roster. I think JB is a better all around player than JT. Who’s more clutch than Luka? Leading a mid team in the West to a finals with injuries. Y’all getting disrespectful
What ifs don't matter lmao
I wonder as well but as they say availability is the best ability.
"accept this stacked roster" lmao. stfub. ppl were calling KP and Jrue bums when we made those trades. It's not our fault we didn't draft bums.
@@LIBrydawho????
I could make the argument for JT at 5th. First team all NBA for the past couple of years, gets it done on both ends, and just won a championship. His numbers don't jump out like the other top 5 guys because of the way his team is structured but let's not forget he averaged 30 just last year. In no particular order id say it's Giannis, Jokic, Luka, Embiid, then Tatum. Guys like Bron, KD, and Steph will always be great but they aren't in a position where they're competing for championships anymore.
Stephen A is ridiculous.
Always mentioning Kevin “bleeping” Durant.
lol Kd always getting criticized by media when talked my media. He barely talk about him so ion know what ya talking about
Got KD’s Mom on the show and he’s been switching up since. 😂
KD is a walking bucket that’s why
@@fabes2024 It doesn’t matter, we have seen nothing from him since he left Golden State.
@@terrordoszucas7219 if you take KD and put him with Celtics instead of JT. They still win. Period
“He’s a champion so I gotta put him top5” pretty much sums up Stephen a reporting career
Even after winning a title Tatum and Brown are disrespected
It was an easy title
@@DominiqueWilliams-ue3rx 70% of people said the Mavericks were gonna win tho
@@bc_qbeval IDC what others say. 95 percent of ppl said I wasn't going to be 235 pounds but I am. It was an easy title like I said
@@DominiqueWilliams-ue3rx easy like 90% of the other titles in the last 10 years
What tf is Stephen A’s fascination with KD still
His momma
5:30
Did you notice when he brought up KD? When molly pointed out and he realised that all of his top 5 were international players.
And then he started raving about KD, Curry, LBJ and Ant.
The insecurity is unreal.
Top 5 are
1. Jokic
2 but really 1B. Giannis
3. Luka
4. Embiid
5. SGA
I know Ja Morant printing a receipt out for this too
Bro i swear.... 12 is coming😂😂
12 coming with a 9😂😂😂
Nah this is too creative 💀
@@teedee1167🤣🤣🤣
Impact wise there is an argument, but 90% of basketball fans nowadays r box score watchers, people were really thinking Luka should’ve got finals mvp in a loss when he wasn’t even a top 2-3 player in this series
lol don’t pay these clowns any attention they just care about stats because of fan duel and betting
Nobody said Luka should’ve got finals mvp lol
He was the best player in this series
@@KingoftheJungle214u must’ve not been on the internet the entire finals
@KingoftheJungle214 I think he's just tried to sneak that in lol nobody said that
One thing that is not being discussed enough is that we rarely talked about the Celtics turnovers during this playoff run. The thing that was their undoing in the past against the Warriors/Heat was essentially eliminated. Major credit to Tatum, Brown and Brad specifically and joe
Yup they had 15+ almost every game in that 22 run. Much more purpose with the ball as a whole. That alone is a difference maker when you aren't just giving the ball away.
I'd say better shot selection and ball movement was the other. They always had a crazy good defense, which somehow got even better.
“1500 Karl Towns plan” 🤣🤣
This group really should get at least 1 more ring 💍 especially if Porzingis can be healthy for the playoffs.
1. Jokic
2. Luka
3. Embiid
4. Giannis
5. Toss up
(No injuries)
They’re young & talented. Tatum has been in the ECF 5 of his 7 yrs in the league. Glad they kept these two together 🍀
Im not putting either of them over Jokic, Giannis, Steph, Lebron, Embiid, Luka
Lebron? lmaoo
This literally is a new era of basketball. It use to be the era of dominance where one team dominates for a stretch. Lebron dominated, then Steph dominated, then KD had his time of dominance.
But now we have Jokic, Giannis, Tatum, all eating right now. NBA is deffinently in a great spot for the player. Though fans are definently in question due to thek clearly just wanting 1 person to win again and again (You know, Normie ish).
Huh zip it
@@dbutta2496stop being mad
@@SShaBazzz mad at what? Boston won I'm good goofy
Not true at all. Injuries have ruined the past 4 years of the playoffs. We haven’t been seeing one of the most dominant players in Kawhi consistently play in the playoffs. Giannis, ad here and there, Jimmy, Randle, Embid, Hali, dmitch.
@@Nca021 all part of the game buddy
There’s no way Tatum is top 5 when he wasn’t the best player on his team all playoffs
Yes he was. In what world does leading the team in points rebounds and assists not make him the best player on the team? A delusional world, thats what.
@Boston2Boca that's because the don't watch the games. They just listen to these talking heads on TV
The other top 5 players were in Cancun…
@@Monaco377brown and white are better than tatum. Tatum ain't it.
@@D5O5M5I5 Brown is trash. Brown as the 1st option vs Miami shot 8-24 with 8 turnovers.
Anthony Davis is the best 2-way player, Kawhi when healthy would also be in that discussion. AD can defend all 5 positions and in the 2023 playoffs, he guarded Curry down the stretch. Jaylen and Anthony Edwards are in the top 10, but not better than Davis and Kawhi. Bron in Miami was a true definition of a 2-way player, my god he was a beast.
No way Davis is better than Giannis
@@fabioexploresyou can’t really call it either way. Giannis at his peak was the MVP and DPOY in 2020 and got completely washed and out clutched by Jimmy in the first round. And then he won a ring and then it hasn’t really been the same since
Kawhi doesn't even deserve to be in the top 10. He's always hurt. How can you be a top 10 player when you always get hurt?
@@fabioexplores As a 2-way player? Yes.
@@NK-mr3rh AD showed when healthy that year that he was the best big man in the game. He outplayed Jokic in this year's playoffs, but the role players became the deciding factor this time. I think AD will have an incredible season, next season
It’s not about the best players, it’s about being the best fit in the best situation. The best fit is style of play and health, and the best situation is roster, coach, management, and salary.
Tatum ain’t top 5 and this series proved it. He’s been the third best player on this team all finals and maybe the entire postseason. Jaylen brown been the best
What a stupid comment. Tatum leads the team in points rebounds and assists in these playoffs. He has been the best player, period.
@@Monaco377 no it’s not a stupid comment. He’s also taken the most shots and shoots 28% from 3 and less than 40% from the field. He been inefficient. Jaylen brown won finals mvp because he was the best player in this series Tatum averaged like 17 ppg in the first 2 or 3 games. You simply lack the iq and brain to see that
Bro stop it Tatum is not top 5
The reason Boston were targeting Luka was not because he is bad defensively because he is not and Boston didn’t shoot the basket well when they going against him. The reason they did it was to wear him down and try to reduce his incredible offensive game. He still scored 30ppg with 47% FG in the series with no help.
Everyone else allow them to play a half court game to rest him up but Boston took it to him couldn't and didn't play defense that's why they did him that way he wasn't running up and down the court because he's tired he wasn't in shape
Jaylen Brown didn’t prove nothing these playoffs????? He had a great performance even took over in the finals never had an off game and he top 15???? He definitely #10
There is 10 players better than brown come on guys 🤣
Brown is literally my favourite basketball player, but they ain't Top 5 sorry and they don't need to. Jokic, Embiid, Luka, Shai, Giannis are my Top 5. Tatum is a comfortable Top 10 player imo and Brown Top 15.
LOOOOL I've had enough KD is top 5 but Luka isn't GTFOH. KD has been swept in the 1st round twice in 3 years, Luka has made the WCF and Final in those years. Also Head to Head all time Luka 8-5 (Luka 32/8.5/8 KD 25.5/7/5). Luka is top 3 .
KD does more on key word BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL.. Then Luka
Yep Yep, The media needs to stop Protecting KD like their Boss. Luka Runs this Season is way more better on what KD did, Plus KD Swept in 1st Round
She literally said can Jayson Tatum lead his team in the finals. Jaylen Brown got the finals MVP he led his team in the finals. 😊
“I’d have Luka at 6”
Alright get her off TV
Fluka isn’t top 5 after he choked.
Flukas updated resume:
0 mvps
0dpoys
0 finals wins
0fmvp
A single finals game win.
He definitely overhyped
She crazy asf... and they keep talking about defense as if defense is what makes you a superstar, imagine being trash offensively and a all-defensive caliber player 😂😂, youre just tony allen or worse killian hayes 🤣🤣🤣... man media is something else. Yall gotta stop with this " hes a bad defender agenda"
@Heatpad.Murray1 yall wasn't saying that about curry he have no defense
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Yea she lost all credibility with that take. Luka is still Luka. This series is an indictment on Kyrie than anybody else, he didn't show up when he was needed most!
bro people be GLAZING Tatum like crazyyyy, they literally forgot that in the 5 finals games he played this year, he put up 3 stinkers.. like how is that top 5?
Jaylen brown top 5 player he 2 way player he 3 level scorer
he great defender he efficient scorer he pass he rebound
Not no 3 level scorer😂
I love brown, but part of that efficiency is due to having so many other offensive threats on his team that the defense also has to focus on. Jokic, Giannis, Embiid, Luka, Shai, and Tatum are all still better with players like AD, KD, Steph, and Bron still in the conversation
Not great at anything
He's top 15
Doing it as the second option is much different than doing it when you are teams main focus JB was not that til maybe next season now
I’m sick of ppl acting like this isn’t a team sport, Tatum and Brown are both great, neither are top 5 tho. The best TEAM won the championship .
if the luka vs tatum question is posed and u pause or think about it and dont answer luka instantly i dont wanna hear your basketball takes.
Luka will never play defense. 1v1 Luka won't do anything at all. AND he has no endurance. He'll probably complain the whole game about being hurt.😂
@@danboricua4Swap Luka for Tatum and those Mavs don't sniff the finals
@@mitchrapp5214 you're back at the starting problem. Kyrie and Jayson will never work.
Why does nobody care about defense anymore
The hate to Luka and love to Ant is wild 😂😂😂
5:30
Did you notice when he brought up KD, Bron, Streph and Ant? When molly pointed out and he realised that all of his top 5 were international players.
And then he started raving about KD, Curry, LBJ and Ant.
The bias is unreal.
"wow! we're soft in america" 😂😂
Crazy statement, they want to push international players sooooo hard. American players still dominate, point in case brown and Tatum just demolished Luka in the finals. Both 2 way players not 1 way
5:46 😂
I think Molly got her brains fcked out by Jalen rose. She’s just goofy now.
@@tfos17 the fact Tatum can shot 20% and still win in the finals, shows how great his team is.
y lets forget porzingis,white,holiday and company next to jb and jt.Luka was injured and alone sonce nobody show up
Steph is actually not a bad defender anymore.
he's not a minus anymore, that's true. I dont think he's a plus.
@@Mitch_Feral for sure but he is not a liability
@@sammymorales6838 Yah, that's what I meant by 'not a minus'.
Jokic
Luka
Giannis
4-10 is open to discuss
Shai, Ant, and Embiid all belong in that 4 - 6 spot. They are just a tier behind the 3 you mentioned. Then I’ve still got LBJ at 7 in a tier of his own tbh. After that, I’m willing to debate 8 - 10
No Tatum is number one this year
Can’t say Tatum silenced any critics. We all know he’s pretty good, but I can’t say he led his team to a title. The whole team led to a title.
Tatum definitely clears luka. Putting up 70 points during a regular season game is cool, but no team is gunna allow you to do that in the Playoffs, AND, how are you the "best player" but you're getting targeted on Defense? Make it make sense. I believe he's top 5, but I'm taking Tatum ahead of him.
Top 5 includes Giannis, Jokic, Luka, Embiid. 5 is hard for me
Wemby is gonna be emerging this next season barring injury 🤞
LeBron?
Luka is not top 5.. Bro defense is God Awful
Drop Embiid, He missed so many games this season.
I feel like an argument could be made for taking Embiid's spot because of the lack of postseason success which we have a large sample size for now but honestly I'd be satisfied with JT being top 10 and JB being top 15.
Stephen A considering leaving Curry off his top 5 players TODAY but also considered having him on his Mount Rushmore earlier this year LOL
My order as of 2024: Giannis, Jokic, Embiid, Luka, Steph, Tatum, Lebron, KD, Edwards, AD.
Tatum not Top 5, and tbh, there’s an argument for Bron and KD are arguably still better
What do y’all think?
I would put luka over embiid becuz embiid never made it to a conference finals and luka has been to 2 and a finals
SGA disrespect is nasty
@@TiiMilky true that. I agree tbh
@@soji4477 Where would you put SGA? If you had a draft today to only play for a single season, would you pick AD to start your team with and build around or would you pick SGA?
Agreed
Absolutely NOT. 🚫
How Luka turn into Luke Kennard?
He turned into Luza Nochip.
Jrue and DW are the ultimate glue sticks. Put them on any contender and they probably get over the top. They seem to make the right plays at the right times
Sounds like there should be separate list! Top 5 players!! And Top 5 players you want!
The top 5 players right now are - Jokic, Giannis, Tatum, Luka, Embiid
Windy just disrespected Larry Bird talking about Luka and LeBron as wing passers
That's a legit conversation.
But yeah Windy's always jacking off LeBron
There’s levels to superstardom that make a top 5.. You got pure elite scorers who you have to triple team (Curry, Embiid, KD), you got two way players (Giannis, Kawhi, Shai, Butler, Ant) then you have facilitating scorers (Jokic, Lebron, Luka). I would put JT and JB in the two way player category and idk if they’re that much better than those guys. So they’re out of my top 5, maybe in top 10.
I’d say top 10. Top 5 is bit of a stretch imo.
This guy said he put Jalen Brunson before JT not to take anything away from Jalen Brunson but I stopped watching after he said that bs 😂😂
Tatum would avg 35 if he got the iso Luka gets. Tatum is top 5 and Jbrown is top 10.
swap Luka to the celtics they still get a ring. Put JT at mavs they are a play in team. JT ain’t that guy
@@helpjdjfacts! JT is a volume shooter who jacks up a lot of shots. Sometimes he’s on sometimes he’s not. I’ll give him credit for picking up the slack in other areas but he was inefficient all playoffs
@@helpjdj,
No way Luka wins a chip on the Celtics. Luka is too much of a ball hog to win a chip.
Jaylen Brown and Tatum looks at Ant Edwards and Luka as lil bro. It will be hard to beat the Celtics the next 5 years based on Chemistry, Skill, Age and Size.
this isnt a real ring the whole east was injured this year and luka was injured bro this is a real disney ring
C's were 23-7 against the West, that's a better winning % than anyone in the Western playoffs had against the conference. C's never lost three in a row. They lost one season series, to the Nuggets. They went gentleman's sweep, gentleman's sweep, sweep, gentleman's sweep to the trophy. They were utterly dominant.
Luka, AD, Embid, and Butler are top players... If they stay healthy 😂 How reliable can you be if you love the bench so much.
1. Shai
2.Jokic
3.Tatum
4.Luka
5.Edwards
they cant both be top 5 if they needed pingus and jrue to make it
Lol
Bron needed Wade, Bosh, and Ray Allen
jordan needed pippen
bron needed wade kyrie and ad
kareem needed magic and oscar robertson
kobe needed shaq and pau gasol
stope this nonsense. but with that being said i dont think either or top 5 players in the league
It's funny that LeBron & Steph with 4 rings each aren't on the list. They can't even remember the guys that won 2 yrs ago.
Yall remember when they were saying Edward's was the new face?
That’s why Stephen A had to bring him up smh
brians arguments are so self contradicting, he says it himself that Lukas defense is a liability and yet he would build a team around Luka solely because he believes his flaws are controllable? U can't have a debate based on what u think he CAN be, u base it on what he is now
Top 5 in no particular order: Luka, Jokic, Embiid, Giannis, Tatum. It’s not that hard people
Embiid? You better switch SGA on him. He played only 39 Games this Season It's so unfair to still picked him. Lol
They are most versatile duo on the perimeter. There tall, athletic , skilled and play both ends of the court.
Tatum over Luka, LMFAOOOOOO
Lol
I mean he was a better playmaker in the finals and is MILES better defensively, so you could make the argument
Now to say theyre top 5? You just gotta consider giving those other players the celtics team and see howd theyd do.
A better two-way guard duo is Kawhi and PG when healthy.
When are they healthy
which they never are.
7 years ago maybe. They 33 and 34. They not the same defensively anymore even when “healthy”
IFFFFFFFFFFFFF they are healthy....... So JT and JB are better duo
Jaylen Brown is my favorite NBA player
I’m surprised they didn’t mention SGA
Shai is in my top 5 easily. He didn’t get mentioned just because his team didn’t make it that far, but that dude carried his team through the playoffs.
Windy did
Jaylen Brown & Jayson Tatum BEST DUO right now no doubt 💯
JB is a top5 2way player on todays NBA
"2 way player" is a creative term in this weak, watered down Era, to excuse defenseless players like Luke Caged. A player plays both ends.
There’s an argument for that.
Tatum is top 6-8 at best. Brown is maybe just outside of 10. The Celtics are just the best team in the NBA, they have been for probably he past 2-3 years that's why they've been criticised the most because they haven't live up to the expectations. The credit should mostly go to Brad Stevens for assembling this team, it's not just about Tatum and Brown. They never would've done it without Jrue, Porzingis, White and the others, anyone of them could've been FMVP
lol here go ESPN about to be reaching for topics until football season
Career defining moment… yep, he’s officially a sidekick
If you’re not a 3 dimensional player offense, defense and playmaking.. you aren’t in the conversation of best player! So yes Tatum and Brown are the best players in the league!
Neither of them are great playmakers try again buddy
On the Celtics they not even best player in the eastern conference….
I agree about the part of being a two way player and the assists should be avg for position at least to qualify. But I could never put a Luka up there because his defensive liability is just that bad.
@@gastoncoleman4257 Tatum had 11 assists last night … try being a hater again little buddy
@@josueselengembuly3697 yes they are! Celtics are the champs! Led by Tatum and Brown! Dont bring up no one who doesn’t have a chip
I’m sorry but the chip puts Jaylen brown above Anthony Edwards’s
Tatum is way ahead of Luka just merely for the very simple fact Tatum plays great defense while Luka doesn’t AND spend most of the time whining, flopping, and complaining to the refs!
And he is still a greater player than tatum.
Tatum not even ahead of brown 😂 seriously Tatum a top 8 for sure
@@gastoncoleman4257 you must not read proper English 😂😂😂
@@josueselengembuly3697Tatum is miles better than Brown. Lets see how they play with the tables turned where Brown gets doubled and Tatum doesnt. Brown turnovers for days.
Tatum doesn't play "great" defense... he plays good defense. If you even watched the finals, Luka doesn't mind getting Tatum switched onto him. And when Tatum guards Luka, Luka scores > 50% of the time. But yes, Luka's defense is concerning. But talent wise, Luka is still better than Tatum.
1. Joker
2. Luka
3. Giannis
4. Steph
5. AD
6. Embiid
7. Bron
8. Tatum
9. KD
10. Ant
11. Shai
12. Brown
NUMBERS DONT LIE PEOPLE DO
Facts the book disrespect is crazy
1) Jokic
2) Giannis
3) Luka
4) Tatum
5) Embiid
6) SGA
7) ANT
8) Bron
9) Steph
10) KD
Stephen A! Who is “Luker”? 😂
1. Jokic
2. Giannis
3. Curry
4. Davis
5. Luca
KD isnt even top 12 man.
Ik ya don’t watch the game like that
All time ok but in the league he is top 8
name 12 player better an ik you can’t so you finna put some troll shii
1. Jokic
2. Giannis
3. Luka
4. SGA
5. Embiid
To quote Dora the Explorer: We Did It!
SAS always trying to push narratives. Ant isn’t close to top 5, but SAS only see’s dollar signs and knows Ant new stardom would push that narrative.
He’s close to top 5 he’s maybe top 10-15 which isn’t far from 5
@@richardmatthews2807I 100% agree with that
2008 KG: ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!!
2024 TATUM: WE DIDDY!!
1) Giannis
2) embiid (when healthy)
3) jokic
4) Luka
5) Tatum/AD
Anthony Davis is better than Jayson Tatum
Of course. But he's only won a chip inside the bubble. He won't ever get another chip the way the west is stacked.
Jokic, Giannis, Luka, Embiid, Shai, LeBron, Curry, Durant, Brown, Tatum. Thats my top 10
jb is not even top 10 bruh maybe top 5 sf
Maybe? Who are 4 better?
@@Whatwedoinhere curry, jokic, luka, shai
@@Fish2live2469not a single one of them is a SF.
@@Whatwedoinhere kd kawhi lebron paul george
@KlausMikaelson-mk3jo op said sf, that’s what I was asking