Disagree it’s underrated. The advanced builders are defaulting there. I would prefer Supabase for my apps as a veteran builder. For first timers I would recommend Firebase!
You can read minds, always releasing videos that answer my pressing issues 🎉🎉🎉 Thank you so much!!! I wonder what's your take if it's Firebase+Rowy vs Supabase
I think buildship unlocks a lot more options with detached backends. I need to work with time series data, and timescale db (based in Postgres) is now a serious option. But I come from a backend perspective that just needs an easy UI
@@IsaacBG84 use case is to use Postgres as the only db as it can handle relational, time series, graph and vectors. Also open source, so the long game is a front end agnostic backend, use case of buildship would be a development accelerator.
The method of connecting SB looks not only extremely easy, but extremely intuitive.. hell it looks like everything is done for you! I think the only thing you would have to be well versed at is knowing the correct field type to choose for your that data your going to store... string doesn't work for everything lol With that being said and from only what was shown here and with SB's pricing I'm going with SB! Now the question is.... how and where is User Management authentication AND authorization "managed" better? With FB or SB? And lastly.. SB is REALLY good with "real time".. I use for live chat, how does FB stack up?
Your videos are very helpful. Could you do a video about front end/back end setup? I'm building an app for the first time without CS background. Having intellectual property code segregated from the user interface makes sense, but I'm curious about how that setup would work. Questions I have are where would the IP code be stored? What is the performance if many devices are calling the code at the same time? Can data from the device be sent to the IP code for processing (say an ML algorithm) which would return a modified dataset? Thanks.
Your IP protected code would best be handled with cloud functions (Google) or edge functions (Supabase). If you think there’s a reasonable chance that these functions could substantially change in between app versions, or you’re going to consume them from other apps, then you can benefit from accessing them through a backend that manages the API endpoints, such as BuildShip (or many, many others). This then allows you to modify them as you please and update your API calls within the backend and not update your app, then worry that it will break for people who haven’t updated (which will be a lot of them…)
I'm not "pitching" anyone any technologies. Supabase is the right choice for someone more advanced, and Firebase is the right choice for a beginner. Supabase is better for apps that will require computational logic and Firebase is better for storing large unstructured data like social media posts, comments, etc. If my problem solving and instincts aren't obvious of that an expert, I apologize, but with over 10+ years of experience and 2 startups with millions of users -- i've been around the block with tech stacks.
@@ambitiouslabs what framework/tools or what combination of framework/tools is best to use if I want both mobile app and SEO enabled website? related: how to publish data outside of Firebase/Superbase?
Hey man- we are in the process of deciding what platforms to use to go from our bubble mvp to something more scalable and custom. Trying to decide if flutterflow flutter super base or fire base will do the trick long term. It’s a payments point of sale and come platform between manufacturers and retailers so lots of data and back end calculations, thoughts on what would be a better date base for this type of product??
SupaBase is very underrated in my opinion. I’ve used SB for my last 3 projects. Also FlutterFlow made my life 10x easier.
Disagree it’s underrated. The advanced builders are defaulting there. I would prefer Supabase for my apps as a veteran builder. For first timers I would recommend Firebase!
@@ambitiouslabs firebase lacks alot of essential queries which is a huge pain for me no thank you
What do u think about Supabase vs Rowy +Firebase? Isn't it good for beginers and even better then Supabase?
You can read minds, always releasing videos that answer my pressing issues 🎉🎉🎉
Thank you so much!!!
I wonder what's your take if it's Firebase+Rowy vs Supabase
BTW can I use SQL statements in FF, if not how can I use LIKE operator to filter data when using FF + Supabase.
Yes, you can
I think buildship unlocks a lot more options with detached backends. I need to work with time series data, and timescale db (based in Postgres) is now a serious option. But I come from a backend perspective that just needs an easy UI
How do you integrate builship with a timeseries db, whats the benefit? why not just use influx db alone for example?
@@IsaacBG84 use case is to use Postgres as the only db as it can handle relational, time series, graph and vectors. Also open source, so the long game is a front end agnostic backend, use case of buildship would be a development accelerator.
I’m sorry I can’t continue the video after the “Flutter language”
Haha yeah flutter is a framework not a language! I’m silly :)
Hey, can you make a video on Microsoft Autogen, how to use it with Assistants API and flutterflow, what are its main uses etc???
The method of connecting SB looks not only extremely easy, but extremely intuitive.. hell it looks like everything is done for you! I think the only thing you would have to be well versed at is knowing the correct field type to choose for your that data your going to store... string doesn't work for everything lol
With that being said and from only what was shown here and with SB's pricing I'm going with SB!
Now the question is.... how and where is User Management authentication AND authorization "managed" better? With FB or SB?
And lastly.. SB is REALLY good with "real time".. I use for live chat, how does FB stack up?
Your videos are very helpful. Could you do a video about front end/back end setup? I'm building an app for the first time without CS background. Having intellectual property code segregated from the user interface makes sense, but I'm curious about how that setup would work. Questions I have are where would the IP code be stored? What is the performance if many devices are calling the code at the same time? Can data from the device be sent to the IP code for processing (say an ML algorithm) which would return a modified dataset? Thanks.
Your IP protected code would best be handled with cloud functions (Google) or edge functions (Supabase). If you think there’s a reasonable chance that these functions could substantially change in between app versions, or you’re going to consume them from other apps, then you can benefit from accessing them through a backend that manages the API endpoints, such as BuildShip (or many, many others). This then allows you to modify them as you please and update your API calls within the backend and not update your app, then worry that it will break for people who haven’t updated (which will be a lot of them…)
@@awlhuntThanks for the feedback.
At scale, Supabase's pricing model is far more economical and predictable than Firebase's.
Great point! I totally agree. I’ll do a pricing video next.
Question; is realtime chat/ database in supabase doable? Its out of the box in firebase as far as i understand
Looks like you have not done your home work, opened Superbase first time, but pitching heavily Firebase like "an expert "?
I'm not "pitching" anyone any technologies. Supabase is the right choice for someone more advanced, and Firebase is the right choice for a beginner. Supabase is better for apps that will require computational logic and Firebase is better for storing large unstructured data like social media posts, comments, etc.
If my problem solving and instincts aren't obvious of that an expert, I apologize, but with over 10+ years of experience and 2 startups with millions of users -- i've been around the block with tech stacks.
@@ambitiouslabs looking for more "reaction" videos from an expert.
@@leadum2 drop me some questions and I’ll be happy to produce some videos
@@ambitiouslabs what framework/tools or what combination of framework/tools is best to use if I want both mobile app and SEO enabled website? related: how to publish data outside of Firebase/Superbase?
Hey man- we are in the process of deciding what platforms to use to go from our bubble mvp to something more scalable and custom. Trying to decide if flutterflow flutter super base or fire base will do the trick long term. It’s a payments point of sale and come platform between manufacturers and retailers so lots of data and back end calculations, thoughts on what would be a better date base for this type of product??