Q&A Slices: Should you upgrade your LAMY with a gold nib?
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Now that Lamy has gold replacement nibs… for my first gold nib pen, would you recommend getting that nib for my Safari or buying an entry level gold nib pen. Which pen would you recommend?
- Great question! you’ll pay close to the same price for both
- It’s purely going to be a matter of personal preference
- If you go with an entry-level gold nib pen like the Pilot VP, Lamy 2000, Pilot E95s, or something similar, the pens themselves may have a little nicer fit and finish than a Safari with a 14k nib
- One of the really nice things about the Lamy 14k nib is that you can swap it, so you can put that nib on any of your non-2000 pens!
- The 14k nib with the Lamy is a little more of an incremental step into gold nibs, and I really love the way those nibs write
- I still think you’ll need to evaluate it on a per-pen basis, as many of the entry-level gold nib pens are pretty different from each other
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If you love Lamy Safari and never try it on a gold nib, you owe yourself an exquisite treat. It's a smooth feeling more than words can describe. 😀
Cool. Thanks!
My personal experience. Once I started using the Lamy Gold M nib on my Safari, not only I purchased a one more Gold M & Gold B nib but have never touched the steel nib since 1 year. I have a slightly heavy hand when it comes to writing. And Gold being slightly springy, makes me feel nice and smooth on paper. The Lamy Safari with Gold M nib is always inked up for me. Now it’s more than 6 months. Though I keep on changing the inks , the pen +nib remains the same
So basic is if you can afford one, don’t hesitate to buy it.
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Hi - It seems to me that the gold nib would have the standard Lamy 'precious metal' on it's tip. Whether that be palladium, iridium or other hard metal. Thus the only practical difference is whether the gold nib confers a little flex to the nib.
To illustrate the precious metal tip issue. I have Lamy steel nibs where I have done a very small amount of polishing and they now write with a smoothness almost as good as a Pilot 386. Lamy nibs are stupendously good value IMO - Thanks for the great review.
You are completely correct. The only benefit of a gold nib is *possibly* that it dampens any feedback better than steel would. Steel is even superior for flexing, since steel can flex much farther without taking a permanent set. Modern steel nibs can be made to write butter smooth on good paper. There's so little room for improvement that it's hard to make a case for gold nibs. It's really more of a status symbol than anything else.
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The Z57 14K gold nib on a Lamy Studio Lx All Black looks great actually.
A black-gold nib on an All-black pen is just gorgeous.
What? That pen comes with a black steel nib, not black gold.
@@gunsmokeandghouls Yes, but I bought the gold nib separately and swapped it with this one. It turned out quite gorgeous. Personally, I like it more than the original black steel.
@@williamntt I did the same, it's a great combo
I have the exact same Lamy Safari pen set up as you mentioned, gold nib and ink converter. My Safari is an everyday pen that operates in a ‘robust’ environment so I like a number of the features of the Safari: The clip, its general toughness, and the ink window. I like the way it writes and glides over the paper. I found it definitely worth the upgrade. I do have a gold nib Parker which I purchased over 20 years ago, but I prefer the smoothness of the gold-nib Lamy.
What nib size do you prefer on the Lamy?
Muhahahaha welcome to my 14k gold nib lamy abc! Ahh I wish :)
I really like the look of a Lamy studio with a lamy gold nib.
I am going to get a gold nib from Lamy. I really like them. theyd look really good on Safari all black and petrol i own.
I carry 2 Lamy Studio pens every day. One pen with a standard fine nib and the other with a 1.5 stub nib. I find that I am more likely to reach for the 1.5 stub nib, especially when I must sign something. I love both nibs, but I find that there is just a bit more flair to the stub nib. I also keep brown ink in the stub nib pen, so it makes my signature just a bit more eye catching.
The Nib Smith does a stub version of the 14k Lamy nibs
I love my Lamy Studio Imperial blue and about 4 Safari pens. I upgraded to a gold medium nib and it's usually on my daily carry because it's so smooth and nice to write with. It also keeps up flawlessly for quick writing. The price point is also ow enough that if something were to happen to it I wouldnt go absolutely nuts. My pilot vanishing point and Custom 823.
I just bought one from you guys. I’ve added it to my Racing Green Studio. It writes great and looks smart on the studio.
LOVE the Racing Green Studio, so this is the perfect addition to it! - Colin
I have three of these gold nibs; all are F grade. They are good writers. Mine are slightly scratchy, but don't catch paper fibers or cause other annoyances. The one I think looks best is the one that has black instead of silver around the gold center stripe. Mine is mounted on a charcoal safari.
I think selected models of the Jinhao are among the best looking, best built pens out there. A surprising number of people put gold nibs on those, so why not a Safari? If you learn how to use it properly, a soft gold nib can greatly enhance long writing sessions. The best possible pen to put a soft gold nib on is the pen that you love, that feels best in your hand.
This said, not all gold nibs are created equal. The Lamy gold nibs I've used were pretty hard, and where writing is concerned, a hard gold nib is really just an overly expensive steel nib.
Well built jinhaos are usually pretty dang heavy tho. Definitely agree on the hard gold nib part.
Thank you for the tip regarding the tape!
Another couple advantages of getting a Lamy gold nib over a new pen is that the combination allows for a gold nib pen that is both very lightweight and durable. This would be a benefit for an artist looking for a workhorse, or just a klutz like me with a repetitive stress injury.
I know heavy pens are often appreciated in the fountain pen community, but if I want to write for hours, the Safari or Joy is about as heavy as I can go, and honestly, I prefer the Kakuno weight. This clearly limits my options if I want to upgrade. Going by Goulet's numbers (thank you!) the Pilot Falcon, and the Platinum Kanazawa Leaf pens are also lightweight with gold nibs, and I am greedily eyeing both. But the Safari plastic material will definitely take more of a beating than the beautiful Kanazawa pens (of course that's not what the Kanazawa is for), and I suspect it would also be more durable than the Falcon.
I love how Japanese pens write though, so I continue to scheme while I save money. Soon...
I wish I could get a 1.1 italic gold nib!
thisisbs808 omg! Yess!!
That would be something crazy. I need it
I didn’t need one until I saw this comment. 🙌🏼
You can, the Nib Smith does those
Yes! Lamy gold nibs are far better than steel nibs: smoother, flower, softer etc.
It's the only way to go for those who like the lamy design and want a gold nibbed pen but don't want the lamy 2000 due to its hooded nib or piston
I have a lamy safari (black colour)
I'm at school.. I purchased it in ur store after u recommended it... its soo gud..
Can u recommend any other fountain pen as well fr heavy usage (I write almost 50-55 pages) luv ur vids
Definitely go with a TWSBI. Perfect for heavy usage due to the high ink capacity. Eco/580/Vac700R are also excellent pens: www.gouletpens.com/collections/twsbi - Colin
The Goulet Pen Company thanks a lot
For me it didnt come down to "Buying a pen and putting the gold nib in it"
But more "Ive already had my studio for a while now, and would like to upgrade it"
I think this is super awesome! I love my Safari & Al Star & feel they are worth investing in to get a gold nib!👍
My daily driver is safari with gold OM nib, love it
Question: what is so special about a gold nib? Apart from being "gold" and expensive?
On the material side, it is typically more springy and has as bit more give then other materials. On the manufacturing side, companies will spend much more time tuning their gold nib pens since it costs more to produce. Because of these reasons, gold nibs are typically just more pleasant to write with and feel much higher quality.
@@123four... Thank you
One reason i would consider swapping out the Safari steel nib for a gold one, is the strange tendency of the steel nib to...shade, for want of a better word. With Noodler's Black, for instance, the Safari leaves a grey, somewhat fat line (nib size: EF); contrast that to a nice spikey thin black line written with a vintage Montblanc F nib, or a Sailor Fude nib. But I've not tested the Lamy gold EF with said ink + pen, so i cannot make a definite conclusion as yet.
I put a gold nib in an LX. It’s lovely
That actually makes sense! Good for you!
Yes! It is definitely worthy for me!
What is the feel of the larger gold nibs compared to the Lamy 2000? The same degree of spring and smoothness? Any sweet spot?
3:10 but the unsanswered question to me is: what is "the gold nib experience" exactly (apart from the looks)? I have many pens, both steel and gold (14, 18, 21 K) and if the nibs are tuned well, they all write great. Is it not merely a question of the looks and the status of gold that plays a role here?
Unless you're a very heavy-handed writer, or simply don't know how to use a soft gold nib, then, NO, it has nothing to do with looks or status.
A soft gold nib is not about flex, despite most pseudo-experts on RUclips checking to see how much line variation you can get from one. Doing so borders on stupid. More nibs are ruined this way than by dropping them on the tip.
A soft gold nib is about absorbing the little hand twtches and tremors than happen to everyone during a long writing session. These lead to hand fatigue, cramping, and poorer writing. If you have enough experience to use a soft gold nib properly, and if you write for long stretches, you will notice a big difference.
In fact, the human fingertip is more than a hundred and fifty times a ssensitive as it needs to be to telling the difference between a typical steel nib and a soft gold nib.
There is also another reason to prefer gold, one that's more mundane. Generally speaking, the more you pa for a pen, the more care the company is likely to take in making sure you get a great product right out of the box. Some pens do come with poorly polish, poorly tuned gold nibs, of course, but this is much rarer with gold. You will also probably get a much better warranty, and better customer care. This part is even true if you buy a gold nib that's hard as a nail, though I find it odd when people do so.
The plain fact is, you shouldn't believe anyone automatically, including me. Unless you own a soft gold nib, and learn how to use it properly, it will always be guesswork. Maybe you're writing style doesn't lend itself to such nibs, and you're perfectly content with your style as it is.
Or maybe you just don't use a fountain enough for it to matter. Or maybe when you do use a fountain pen, it's only for scribbly notes, and neatness, hand fatigue, etc., aren't a problem. Then just buy what you like.
But if you're someone who uses a fountain pen a LOT, particularly in long sessions, , and if you learn how to use your pen, become friends with it, then a soft gold nib has serious advantages over any steel nib I've ever used.
I spend most of my working life using a fountain pen, and even in retirement I use a fountain pen at least five hours per day. It takes about half an hour of continuous writing for the soft gold nib to make me happy I own it.
But there is nothing at all wrong with steel nibs. I own a fair number, and I love them all. Each is smooth as butter on glass, though I had to buy many, sort, sell, trade, change nibs, use Mylar and micromesh to make a number of them as perfect as I wanted them to be.
But they are all excellent writers now
Even with gold nibs, I had to buy, sell, trade, and work on them before I found the perfect ni, and at least as important, the perfect pen that jsut feels wonderful when I pick it up.
You don't need a Namiki, or even a Visconti Homo Sapiens Bronze Age. You just need a pen that feels perfect in your hand, and a soft gold nib that you make friends with. One pen to rule them all. Whether it's a Jinhao Dragon pen or a Lamy Safari that you like enough to match with a soft gold nib, or a Platinum 3776, a Pilot Custom 74, or a diamond and emerald encrusted nightmare doesn't matter.
It's fine to own a million pens, but it's excellent to own one pen that you reach for each and every time you have a long session of writing ahead. A pen that fits your hand, that you love, whether anyone else does or not, a pen you can use for hours without hand fatigue or cramps. If you make friends with it, a soft gold nib on the right pen can make this happen.
James Ritchie “I use a fountain pen at least five hours a day.”
*Reads James Ritchie’s entire interesting blog post on fountain pen enthusiasts afflicted with gold nib flex perception mania vs the under appreciated subtleties of soft-gold-nib shock absorption for highly caffeinated tweekers.... ...And thus ultimately faced with realizations of having comparatively underutilized fountain pens, facing unworthiness of such contemplation, throws pens in trash can and walks away weepingly as the Noodler Ahab, Konrad, TWSBI 580, and a couple Rotring Art Pens and Pilot Parallel pens await regret or a saviour... :(...
@@jamesaritchie1 Thanks for pointing to this, very useful information I really missed so far in any video, not only this one. The golden nib as shock absorber, who would have thought. But it seems to make sense. I don't know if I need it, I always write as losely as possible and let the pen do the work, so I never experienced fatigue even after long sessions. I am a trained pianist so may be my hands and fingers are supple. I love line variation but I find flexing a too elaborate way of achieving this, I prefer using a stub or italic for that. I don't have flex nibs. I think the nib of the Pelikan m1000 would be the most supple I own, so that would be the best shock absorber should I ever need one, next to the m800 one. And a vintage m400 also seems to bounce more than the modern ones. My steel nibs are mostly rather stiff, although the m200 nibs have a little bounce compared to for instance the Lamy ones. And my Sailor golden nibs seem rather stiff also.
@@jamesaritchie1 hi! It has already been a lot of time since you posted this comment but could help me with a query?
I have a Lamy safari with black fine nib. I have to approximately 40-45 pages in 3 hours so I need a pen that writes really fast. Which nib would you suggest me- fine or medium and gold or black/steel?
Aww...😍 Lovely comment; i can feel all your hours of writing with that lovely soft fine gold nib already (F, or EF, is my guess). Me, i'm still looking for that perfect writer - the Lamy gold EF is smooth but a tad too wet; maybe my Sailor will be it. 😈 @@jamesaritchie1
What I wanted to know is if the writing experience with a gold nib is so much better than with the standard nib, that the huge increase in cost is actually worth it?
Also, is there any difference between the standard and black nibs?
I'm not rich enough to change to a gold nib just because it looks nice.
Honestly, most would be better off just getting an entirely new pen with a gold nib. Keep the Safari, Vista, or All-Star as is. That's assuming one is new to the hobby and has only a couple of pens. If you've used any of those models for months or years on a daily basis and it's hands-down the perfect pen for you, then swapping the nib for a gold one would be worth it.
I've been using my LAMY Studio for awhile, and honestly not a fan. A heavy metal pen with a slick metal grip translates into hand fatigue after writing half a page with it, posted. (Unposted, it's too short for me.) The proprietary converter looks and feels cheap, and is clunky to use. Also, the plastic threads are not what you should be getting on a pen of that price range. And it becomes even worse when you get one of the gold nib Studios, as you're knocking on the $200.oo window right there. The fit and finish on mine is a bit disappointing.
However, there's just something about the design I like. My plan is to get the S.S. Studio (the only one with a rubberized grip section) and a gold nib for it. As for my current Studio, I'll just clean it and wait for an opportunity to give it away to someone, someday who is new to fountain pens. I mean, starting out with a Pilot Varsity, or Platinum Preppy; a Steel nib Studio would make for a great gift.
The all black edition of the Studio also has the better section.
Any idea selling the Black Ionised Golden Nibs of Lamy ? Love From India ❤️
I don’t think they sell that
It’s available on European online sites very easily. I have ordered one from Fontoplumo. Black with M tipping
I've seen them on the LAMY Imporium, but they're not available as replacement nibs through our US distributor. Hopefully that changes in the future! - Colin
Bro if you have LINC pens show room in your city you can find them there especially if it’s a larger showroom they sell gold nib pens starting at around around 11k to 12k
nibsmith sells them. That's where I got mine for my Lamy Safary Black :)
I got a lamy gold nib a few months ago and it’s smooth af I’d say smother than a ball point
Ball points aren't smooth, though. My $3 Chinese fountain pen writes smoother than a ballpoint.
I bought a gold nib for my Lamy Studio. It fits so loose it falls off. It is too bad I don't write with it anymore.
What is the writing experience with the replacement gold nib? A demo or description of that would make the choice a lot easier.
Generally speaking, it'll have a smoother experience with a bit more give to the nib. Not necessarily flexibility but a springiness. Brian goes into a lot more detail in our Nib Materials FP 101 video: ruclips.net/video/LaNYYkOIcTE/видео.html - Colin
Cool. I've got experience of a Platinum 3776 gold nib (quite hard) and a Pilot 823 Gold (fairly bouncy) nib ad Bock Titanium nib (very bouncy!). For firmness/bounciness which side is it leaning too? thanks
I'd say these LAMY gold nibs are more on the stiff side. Not as much as Platinum 3776 nibs, but more in that direction than Pilot. - Colin
Lamy offers two types of gold nibs: with a hole in it and without a hole. Does it make a difference when writing?
I read that Germans like the one with the breather hole more.
Honestly I wouldn't. Barely different for 100$. The tipping is the same anywaya
Tho I barely tested a gold nib at the airport
lamy 2000 or imporium which is better ergonomically and look wise, i m in love with lamy pens they write buttery smooth but have not tried both these or any gold nib pen yet,wanna choose one now,i own safari and studio as of now
Lamy 2000 (F) or (M) without a doubt
this is exactly what I was just wondering!
What’s the pros of having a gold nib?
I wanted to use a lamy al broad point for drawing sketching , is that a good choice?
They are better tuned for one thing. They're also slightly softer and springier than steel
Brian, what is the difference between the z55 and the z56 nibs?
Ah man! I wish i could afford a Lamy Gold Nib, i guess it’s good that i can’t because i keep dropping mine on its tip
Why don't you review sheaffer?
I already did it ;D
U are fabulastic
You are not making sense... tastic
Get a montblanc, they are pretty good and have gold nib.
Is there a benefit to the writing, or is this strictly ego bling?
Awesome, thanks for the reply to the newbie question.
The Goulet Pen Company Hi! Out of curiosity, has Brian made a video comparing the writing characteristics of steel vs gold or other materials?
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Perhaps I've been lucky with my LAMY Vista, and Studio. Both have steel nibs. The Vista, just barely a whisper as far as feedback. My Studio, despite its issues, easily has one of the smoothest (possibly *the* smoothest nib) in my entire extensive collection. It's odd, but my gold nib pens are the ones exhibiting more feedback than my steel nib ones. Come to think of it, very few of my steel nib pens exhibit much feedback at all. Many are actually very smooth.
I like a very rigid nib that is very smooth. To me, the biggest practical advantage is that my 14K gold nib pens definitely have more spring to them than my steel nib ones. So for many, that's going to make their writing experience a bit more enjoyable than using a rigid steel nib pen.
When I used a gold nib pen for the first time, I was disappointed at how little of a difference I felt from writing with a steel nibbed pen. But I had already dropped 200 dollars on the pen so I just used it. After I got used to writing with the gold nib pen, I realized how stiff the steel nibbed pens felt. All I'm saying is you really might not immediately be able to tell the difference.
I can't answer for Lamy nibs, but after I changed my Parker 45 Flighter nib to a solid gold one, I can never go back. It writes absolutely lovely and has a nice "springiness" to it, which you don't get as much with steel. It also flexes a bit which is just an absolute treat.
Should you upgrade your Lamy with a gold nib? YES! You're welcome.
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