Regarding the box cover art, the scene being shown is from the battle of Waterloo where the French are coming as close to success as they would get on their various attacks on the chateau of Hougoumont on the Anglo-Allied left flank. Some French troops in this attack managed to get inside the enclosure but the defenders in turn managed to seal off the entrance and cut down all those who were trapped inside, which, of course, the painting does not show because it is only a painting and not a video like this. I hope that clarifies that situation for you(and others here).
Soft plastic game pieces are greatly preferable to ones made from harder plastic, especially when they will be handled a lot. The latter tends to be fragile in thin spots like ankles, both for men and horses, and I've seen a few such figures break at the ankles which essentially makes them unusable.
Another great breakdown, I appreciate the expanse outside modern A&A, this is one of next games on my list to get down the road, as you may know from my channel, I've expanded my reach into the ancients, so much more military history outside the 20th century. Happy battles!
Another note - the lighter shade of blue pieces, as I understand it, is for the French satellite forces, not only Germans, but also Poles, Italians, Dutch, etc. However, I thought I saw something in one of the scenarios where the light blue units are to be used for the Prussians. Those Prussians really are a confused mess in this game. Just makes me want to destroy their petty kingdom that much quicker!
The mini with the flag is an army marker which you use in place of a bunch of specific unit figures taking up much more map space. There should have been more of those per set of figures. Even three army markers instead of two would have worked out better.
I do not have this game but I do have the other Glenn Drover strategic Napoleonic game, Victory and Glory Napoleon. The map is similar to the one for Napoleon in Europe, but I do not have the miniatures instead the game came with large cardboard counters. I have not played neither the board game version nor the computer version of this simulation. How closely do you feel that the game design and mechanics of Victory and Glory Napoleon are to Napoleon in Europe?
Napoleon in Europe has now been for a while right at the center of my plans for my impending move to my new digs in a few days. This is one game I know I want to take with me despite the oversized box that will take up more space of which I will have a lot less than I have in my present location. Fortunately, with some careful reshuffling I've also been able to rescue NiE's sister games The American Civil War, War - Age of Imperialism and Conquest of the Empire, along with a somewhat related game called Warlords of Europe. Those and others among my favorites will make the trip with me as I get ready to start my new life after 66 years in the present environment. However, due to the great amount of required downsizing I've had to perform on my various collections in order to fit what I can into a much smaller space that will be my new home there are many great games, etc., that won't be making the trip and will be left behind to be disposed of in an appropriate manner. This is, indeed, a crazy time, but I anticipate that the sacrifices that I make now will lead to better things soon to come. Sorry if that comes off as, maybe, a little too religious but this is, surely, also an emotional time for me and I crave everyone's indulgence here for just a bit. This, too, shall pass, and there will be better days ahead. I wouldn't be moving if I didn't believe that. Thanks in advance to all who read this.
"Big enough it is hard to find people to play with." Oh, that is always the problem. :) I love the use of the battlemap, and the political action seems so interesting. Same with the three game sizes... This is a great game just from what I have seen. I do agree that some of the colors could probably be better chosen, and more minis is always good, but I like what I see. I can't wait for the rest of this series. I may have to get this game myself soon.
Agreed that some of the unit colors could be better. Specifically, after the creators of this game got it right with the British red, the French blue, the Spanish yellow and the Russian green they seemed to have gone off the deep end with purple Prussians(black or gray would have been best), tan Ottoman Turks(not bad but orange would have been a better fit for a Napoleonic game) and gray Austrians(white would have been best here). Best advice, play one of the colors you like if possible.
this is a great breakdown and can't wait for part 2. Really love the art in this game, especially the map and figures. I am interested in games similar to A&A/global (Napoleonic wars in triple-A) and this game really catcged my attention. Can you tell me where to get this game?
Honestly, It's probably going to be tough sledding to find an available copy of this game given how long it has been out of print. Still, you can check places like eBay, Amazon and BoardGameGeek Marketplace along with any online retailers that deal in preowned games, Noble Knight Games being one example. Good luck!
@board3659 - It appears you are in a bit of luck. Jinx here has several videos on your newer game of interest that you can check out if you haven't already(or if you have you could just watch any of them again for the enjoyment of it). I trust you'll have fun whatever you do.
Jinx, the blue border on the map belongs to France while Spain has to settle for a yellow border that can be hard to see with the chosen coloring used for the land areas. National colors(as interpreted in the game art), you know.
Jinx, I don't think Napoleon ever eliminated the back plate ftom his heavy cavalry units. The Austrian cuirassiers were the ones that didn't have a back plate and this put them at a distinct disadvantage in combat against opposing heavy cavalry.
Maybe the best place to try is Morrison Games, the maker of Viktory II. It is possible to order individual game parts separately. Just go there and find the link provided by Peter Morrison, head of the company, to ask about getting ship pieces and any other individual playing pieces that you might need. Good luck!
I should probably add that a single set of Viktory 2 figures includes(as I recall, but you can ask) 8 ship pieces so you can do the math to work out how many sets you will need to get your desired compliment of ships. Again, good luck.
Maybe it's just me but Napoleon in Europe seems more like a book title than a boardgame title. I know, it has no effect whatsoever on game play but I just found it curious. So much for that notion.
I hope you got that copy at a deep discount considering what you just described. It makes you wonder how the board got that way. Maybe the game was played by a bunch of true Napoleonic fanatics? Just a thought.....
@@jamesnoone7403 lol. From what I understand, the board dried out, which creates the warping. It could have been stored in an attic or someplace hot and dry. I tried to mist spray it, but no luck. I have had it sitting under a lot of weight for a long time now...no luck. But interesting enough, it is almost identical to his other board design for the game Victory and Glory. I also have a vinyl print out of Risk Napoleon. Ive created a hybrid game out of the rules and that map.
@@jamesnoone7403 Imperial Glory. I have made several versions. Mostly I just apply the standard rules for Napoleon in Europe. Ive toyed with introducing the event cards from Victory and Glory. The first play test worked well using the V&G map. Second try was a disaster. Also, those two maps are very different in how the borders are drawn…especially Poland. I got the map for Risk Napoleon off google images, and created a large map via Vistaprint. There are two versions of maps you can use. Really, the map is the playing field and the rules can be very flexible depending on how complicated you want it to be. I think the biggest challenge is the production and the political/influence points. Movement and combat is easier.
Is it my imagination or was there some years back a computer game with the Imperial Glory title? The name just seems familiar for some odd reason. Maybe it's just me, who knows.
I prefer the basic game rules. Why complicate things when you don't have to? Not only that, but with this version of the rules there is no, repeat NO, attrition in either Spain or Russia so Napoleon and friends can go marching merrily through Europe with hardly a care in the world(in my version of the game, at least).
I would call it a miniatures game in that it uses minis as the main game pieces as opposed to the more normal flat cardboard counters. That to me is a miniatures game although, I'll admit, your mileage may vary.
Jinx, I don't really get your thing with mountains on maps. To me mountains are these big obstructions that in some way and to some degree hold up the offensive side of the game and makes it less than fun. In particular, and in addition, regarding Switzerland, while that country and several of its neighbors - Bavaria, France, Austria, Italy - all have their parts of the Alps, there are these things called mountain passes that make it viable to move through the Alps to any open country to be found beyond the mountains. The best known of these passes, among others, probably, would be the Mont Cenis, the Little St. Bernard(where Hannibal is thought to have crossed the Alps), the Great St. Bernard(where Bonaparte crossed in May of 1800 shortly before the battle of Marengo), the St. Gotthard, the Simplon, the Spluegen(where MacDonald crossed in December of 1800, including getting past the dangerous Cardinello Gorge), the Brenner and the Semmering. Today the Mont Denis, Simplon and St. Gotthard passes take the form of tunnels that go through the mountains. I just thought you would like to(and should) know these things.
That should be Mont Cenis, not Mont Denis, as I said the first time. Sorry about that, chief. Too bad YT doesn't let you edit your own posts to weed out mistakes like that one. Well, what can you do, right?
A couple other passes that might be worth mentioning are the Mont Blanc tunnel and the Col di Tenda(French - Col de Tende; Italian- Colle di Tenda). Both connect France and Italy. The latter pass additionally features both a road tunnel and a railway tunnel, both of which run underneath the mountain pass.
Regarding the box cover art, the scene being shown is from the battle of Waterloo where the French are coming as close to success as they would get on their various attacks on the chateau of Hougoumont on the Anglo-Allied left flank. Some French troops in this attack managed to get inside the enclosure but the defenders in turn managed to seal off the entrance and cut down all those who were trapped inside, which, of course, the painting does not show because it is only a painting and not a video like this. I hope that clarifies that situation for you(and others here).
Soft plastic game pieces are greatly preferable to ones made from harder plastic, especially when they will be handled a lot. The latter tends to be fragile in thin spots like ankles, both for men and horses, and I've seen a few such figures break at the ankles which essentially makes them unusable.
Jinx, the cavalryman riding around endlessly in Turkey is probably a Mameluke(as opposed to a Papaluke). That's a safe guess, I believe.
Another great breakdown, I appreciate the expanse outside modern A&A, this is one of next games on my list to get down the road, as you may know from my channel, I've expanded my reach into the ancients, so much more military history outside the 20th century. Happy battles!
Same advice as above. You should get this game as soon as the opportunity presents itself as it been out of print for a good while now, I believe.
Another note - the lighter shade of blue pieces, as I understand it, is for the French satellite forces, not only Germans, but also Poles, Italians, Dutch, etc. However, I thought I saw something in one of the scenarios where the light blue units are to be used for the Prussians. Those Prussians really are a confused mess in this game. Just makes me want to destroy their petty kingdom that much quicker!
The mini with the flag is an army marker which you use in place of a bunch of specific unit figures taking up much more map space. There should have been more of those per set of figures. Even three army markers instead of two would have worked out better.
I do not have this game but I do have the other Glenn Drover strategic Napoleonic game, Victory and Glory Napoleon. The map is similar to the one for Napoleon in Europe, but I do not have the miniatures instead the game came with large cardboard counters. I have not played neither the board game version nor the computer version of this simulation. How closely do you feel that the game design and mechanics of Victory and Glory Napoleon are to Napoleon in Europe?
Napoleon in Europe has now been for a while right at the center of my plans for my impending move to my new digs in a few days. This is one game I know I want to take with me despite the oversized box that will take up more space of which I will have a lot less than I have in my present location. Fortunately, with some careful reshuffling I've also been able to rescue NiE's sister games The American Civil War, War - Age of Imperialism and Conquest of the Empire, along with a somewhat related game called Warlords of Europe. Those and others among my favorites will make the trip with me as I get ready to start my new life after 66 years in the present environment. However, due to the great amount of required downsizing I've had to perform on my various collections in order to fit what I can into a much smaller space that will be my new home there are many great games, etc., that won't be making the trip and will be left behind to be disposed of in an appropriate manner. This is, indeed, a crazy time, but I anticipate that the sacrifices that I make now will lead to better things soon to come. Sorry if that comes off as, maybe, a little too religious but this is, surely, also an emotional time for me and I crave everyone's indulgence here for just a bit. This, too, shall pass, and there will be better days ahead. I wouldn't be moving if I didn't believe that. Thanks in advance to all who read this.
"Big enough it is hard to find people to play with."
Oh, that is always the problem. :)
I love the use of the battlemap, and the political action seems so interesting. Same with the three game sizes... This is a great game just from what I have seen. I do agree that some of the colors could probably be better chosen, and more minis is always good, but I like what I see.
I can't wait for the rest of this series. I may have to get this game myself soon.
This game has been out of print for a while so grab it as soon as you can.
Agreed that some of the unit colors could be better. Specifically, after the creators of this game got it right with the British red, the French blue, the Spanish yellow and the Russian green they seemed to have gone off the deep end with purple Prussians(black or gray would have been best), tan Ottoman Turks(not bad but orange would have been a better fit for a Napoleonic game) and gray Austrians(white would have been best here). Best advice, play one of the colors you like if possible.
Always enjoy your videos!
this is a great breakdown and can't wait for part 2. Really love the art in this game, especially the map and figures. I am interested in games similar to A&A/global (Napoleonic wars in triple-A) and this game really catcged my attention. Can you tell me where to get this game?
At ebay you can maybe found one at good price.
@@StevanEC thanks
Honestly, It's probably going to be tough sledding to find an available copy of this game given how long it has been out of print. Still, you can check places like eBay, Amazon and BoardGameGeek Marketplace along with any online retailers that deal in preowned games, Noble Knight Games being one example. Good luck!
@@jamesnoone7403 thanks though that was a year ago me. I am more into getting Tabletop Top simulator for GW1936
@board3659 - It appears you are in a bit of luck. Jinx here has several videos on your newer game of interest that you can check out if you haven't already(or if you have you could just watch any of them again for the enjoyment of it). I trust you'll have fun whatever you do.
Jinx, the blue border on the map belongs to France while Spain has to settle for a yellow border that can be hard to see with the chosen coloring used for the land areas. National colors(as interpreted in the game art), you know.
Please Mrs. from Fortress Jinx can you please make a tutorial of Sid Meier's Civilization the 2002 version from Eagles games
Jinx, I don't think Napoleon ever eliminated the back plate ftom his heavy cavalry units. The Austrian cuirassiers were the ones that didn't have a back plate and this put them at a distinct disadvantage in combat against opposing heavy cavalry.
Where did you get the ship models? Can you message me? Thanks
Hello Sam!
A Game called "Viktory 2" try to find it on Board Game Geek. I found the miniatures on Amazon if I remember correctly.
Maybe the best place to try is Morrison Games, the maker of Viktory II. It is possible to order individual game parts separately. Just go there and find the link provided by Peter Morrison, head of the company, to ask about getting ship pieces and any other individual playing pieces that you might need. Good luck!
I should probably add that a single set of Viktory 2 figures includes(as I recall, but you can ask) 8 ship pieces so you can do the math to work out how many sets you will need to get your desired compliment of ships. Again, good luck.
Maybe it's just me but Napoleon in Europe seems more like a book title than a boardgame title. I know, it has no effect whatsoever on game play but I just found it curious. So much for that notion.
What size are the figures?
About 1/72 scale or 25mms. They are a good size to use for regular miniatures gaming as well as for NiE if you are so inclined.
I just found a used copy of this game. However, the board is very warped. Any idea how a person could fix it?
I hope you got that copy at a deep discount considering what you just described. It makes you wonder how the board got that way. Maybe the game was played by a bunch of true Napoleonic fanatics? Just a thought.....
@@jamesnoone7403 lol. From what I understand, the board dried out, which creates the warping. It could have been stored in an attic or someplace hot and dry. I tried to mist spray it, but no luck. I have had it sitting under a lot of weight for a long time now...no luck. But interesting enough, it is almost identical to his other board design for the game Victory and Glory. I also have a vinyl print out of Risk Napoleon. Ive created a hybrid game out of the rules and that map.
@gowensbach - That's interesting that you came up with a hybrid game. What do you intend to call it? How about "Europe At Risk From Napoleon"?
@@jamesnoone7403 Imperial Glory. I have made several versions. Mostly I just apply the standard rules for Napoleon in Europe. Ive toyed with introducing the event cards from Victory and Glory. The first play test worked well using the V&G map. Second try was a disaster. Also, those two maps are very different in how the borders are drawn…especially Poland. I got the map for Risk Napoleon off google images, and created a large map via Vistaprint. There are two versions of maps you can use. Really, the map is the playing field and the rules can be very flexible depending on how complicated you want it to be. I think the biggest challenge is the production and the political/influence points. Movement and combat is easier.
Is it my imagination or was there some years back a computer game with the Imperial Glory title? The name just seems familiar for some odd reason. Maybe it's just me, who knows.
I prefer the basic game rules. Why complicate things when you don't have to? Not only that, but with this version of the rules there is no, repeat NO, attrition in either Spain or Russia so Napoleon and friends can go marching merrily through Europe with hardly a care in the world(in my version of the game, at least).
You can paint the units. It is a minitures game?
I wouldn't describe it as a miniatures game. It's more like a strategy game with pieces you can paint if you like.
I would call it a miniatures game in that it uses minis as the main game pieces as opposed to the more normal flat cardboard counters. That to me is a miniatures game although, I'll admit, your mileage may vary.
Jinx, I don't really get your thing with mountains on maps. To me mountains are these big obstructions that in some way and to some degree hold up the offensive side of the game and makes it less than fun. In particular, and in addition, regarding Switzerland, while that country and several of its neighbors - Bavaria, France, Austria, Italy - all have their parts of the Alps, there are these things called mountain passes that make it viable to move through the Alps to any open country to be found beyond the mountains. The best known of these passes, among others, probably, would be the Mont Cenis, the Little St. Bernard(where Hannibal is thought to have crossed the Alps), the Great St. Bernard(where Bonaparte crossed in May of 1800 shortly before the battle of Marengo), the St. Gotthard, the Simplon, the Spluegen(where MacDonald crossed in December of 1800, including getting past the dangerous Cardinello Gorge), the Brenner and the Semmering. Today the Mont Denis, Simplon and St. Gotthard passes take the form of tunnels that go through the mountains. I just thought you would like to(and should) know these things.
That should be Mont Cenis, not Mont Denis, as I said the first time. Sorry about that, chief. Too bad YT doesn't let you edit your own posts to weed out mistakes like that one. Well, what can you do, right?
A couple other passes that might be worth mentioning are the Mont Blanc tunnel and the Col di Tenda(French - Col de Tende; Italian- Colle di Tenda). Both connect France and Italy. The latter pass additionally features both a road tunnel and a railway tunnel, both of which run underneath the mountain pass.