Installing underfloor heating into an existing floor | FloorIQ
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- Опубликовано: 27 окт 2024
- Installing underfloor heating into an existing floor can be done in just two days!
But how? First, you cut slots into the floor with our specially developed underfloor heating milling machine. The machine cuts effortlessly into an existing screed, cement floor, concrete floor (400V) or tiled floor (400V). After that, you lay the heating tubes into the slots and cover the floor with tile adhesive. You then lay the final surface (such as tiles, parquet, marble or granite) and start enjoying your heated floor. All achieved within two days!
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I have been told by a major UFH supply company that for a retrofit you don't need insulation. This is because the energy loss downward is minimal (
Please take advice from an expert who has no financial interest in the choices you make.
I know a couple of people who had wet underfloor heating installed and they did it differently due to numerous factors which included the thickness of the existing concrete slab, the underlying earth (sandstone vs granite), the materials used to build the walls, current insulation levels and how these would need altering, distance between ceiling and floor, and a lot of other factors. Honestly it's worth spending a little money to have a qualified architect take a look.
I'm not an architect or builder so I have no conflict of interest here, I just know this is a big financial decision and I know both my friends might have been harmed if they didn't get advice beforehand from an independent source.
Architets do not know didly squat about underfloor heating might as well as the post man, your local supplier or a qualified heating engineer you can trust is who you need to ask, not every company is out to rip you off.
insulation is always better, but it's not worth the costs for a whole new concrete floor.
That's bollocks building regs says it has to be
Nice but there’s no insulation under the concrete.
Something interesting then the crappy videos I've just watched in my recommended.
Was this in anyone else’s recommended
As above, yes but as an ad
What about the insulation if there isn't one?
Clever machine. But what about the insulation that needs to be under the screed? Doesn’t seem very thermal efficient
That's what I was thinking - modern builds with an insulated concrete pad are ok, anything 80s maybe 90s and older, you'd loose a shot tonne to the ground below.
Question is - does this make this retrofit solution more or less efficient than electric underfloor heating? 🤔
Jasem Kashani true. I’d be inclined to run electric and PV solar if the climate allowed
@@joshfletcher9185 I've tried running electric and PV and it doesn't work well. I wish I'd done this, put in a wet system and used a heat pump.
But if there’s no insulation under the concrete of a retrofit, won’t the concrete just act as a heat sink with the ground so lots of your heat is getting siphoned into the ground?
The energy loss from heat going into the ground is minimal. This way of laying UFH is a valid alternative to ripping out your concrete floor entirely. Cost effective, and mostly energy efficient.
@@flooriqengland1101 you putt 35° here?
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If something went wrong the hole floors comimg up would be expensive all round if a problem ever did arise .
If it went wrong just disconnect and throw some rads on the wall 👍
Is there such a thing as radiant insulation coating? Like some hybrid rubberized liquid coating that has metal dust mixed in, to insulate from both conductive and radiant heat loss?
I don’t think you would need a thick layer to provide a significant benefit. Imagine something like a metal tool with a thin rubber sleeve on the handle, it might be only a 16th of an inch thick but you wouldn’t feel the cold of the metal at all.
Even just existing products, like caulking would help tremendously I think, if the caulking was first applied to the bare concrete, and then the PEX was installed afterward, with heat transfer plates, to help pull the heat up toward the floor, even more
That's just satisfying
I saw different ideas of filling the chases like flexible tile adhesive s2. What did you use?
What is the machine called please
The machine shown about would be our STANDARD type Floor iQ Milling Machine.
Check out our website to see what it is we're so good at www.flooriq.co.uk/floor-heating-milling-machine/
All well and good for a concrete floor but how would you do upstairs? In my house the floor there is sheets of plywood over joists
What is used to seal the slots?
What happens if you spill a drink on flooring with heating under it?
Also, is it expensive to heat a house this way? And is it effective by itself even in winter?
Spill and drink nothing happens you wipe it up, underfloor works at low temperature so is more efficient, if turns you floor into a giant radiator
Insulation is key, there must be an alternative.
The slots that are milled in this video are rectangular, while the UFH tubes are round (as is common with tubes). The tubes lay in the slots, leaving room for still air surrounding the tube, isolating the whole system in a natural and effective way!
So a circular saw cut around corners?
Some sort of router bit perhaps
This video implies that they do but they definitely don't!
@@mattthewanderer5029 a bit late to the party, but I just found the video showing how this particular machine does the curves: ruclips.net/video/JjvtSmui1Lc/видео.html
Unless I'm missing something vital, there seems to be a glaring omission, regarding underneath insulation. Is this underfloor heating for Numb Nuts?
Perhaps a little less ignorance. Warm air does rise . 😅
can you tell me who manufacturers your milling machine and is there a north American supplier
Did you ever find a machine manufacturer / supplier in North America?
@@mattvanbenschoten1099 Shoot an email over to info@flooriq.nl and we'll see what we can do to hook you up Matt!
Hey Robert. Our machines are designed by us, assembled by us, and mostly made from scratch by us 😊
We ship our machines to many countries already, all from the Netherlands.
If you email us at info@flooriq.nl we'll be able to sort something out!
No need for top screed what? Whats going on here?
Hey,
This video just shows the milling of the slots our machines are able to do.
The end result will still have a solid top screed
Won't it cost more to hear more areas of water?
A little dirty thoose tiles.
No underfloor insulation so complete pointless
Why am I watching this though 🤔
Dat 70s porn music thooo
Thats a bad idea coz you dont have any insulation beneath the floor and you will loose the heat into the ground
It's actually the best way to install underfloor heating if you don't want to remove the entire floor. Because warm air rises, the heat won't be lost in the cold floor.
And if done right, the tubing is laid with a thin layer of air surrounding it, which naturally isolates as well. The loss of energy is significantly less than any other way of heating your home.
Was this in anyone else’s recommended