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Death Stranding Similarities in Metal Gear SURVIVE?! - Underwater Purgatory, Aliens & more!
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You guys are geniuses .
Yeah this was excellent, as usual!
This is somewhat unrelated to this video. But [in MGSV] what do you think about the idea that the "Shower" is actually a Culture Tank and the Culture Fluid is what refreshes our senses and oddly enough back in the 70's Gray Fox's senses as described in Portable Ops i believe? Kinda blew my mind. Also as a sidebar, Fox won V medales and loses all V senses when he goes into the tank. Also he admits that Snake fills a Void for him. :) V has come too.
Did you liked MG Survive and recomend it?
PythonSelkanHD this was giving me vibes of DMT the god molecule.
Holy crap - didn't Kojima say that the underwater purgatory part of Death Stranding was already playable? Referring to MG Survive?? A lot of interesting connections here.
I still think that those connections come from an assumed fact that Kojima shared some of his ideas for his next game with his team before the departure from Konami and they decided to use them in MG Survive (or perhaps they're still in contact with Kojima?). But yet again, you guys did an incredible work and ofcourse I won't put your idea out of range of possibilites. Keep on searching guys.
Thats what I think, also. I don't believe in the ruse, but I enjoy the analyses it brings!
I get genuinely giddy now when I see a new PythonSelkan video.
Your editing/cinematic progression skills are god-tier.
Kojima: "And I would of gotten away with it, if it wasnt for that meddling PythonSelkan"
I don't know guys Kojima has tricked us so many times in the past. I wouldn't be surprised at all. The man is a rogue and full of devilment lol.
I wanna believe this is the ultimate Kojima deception. What hurts the most though is that Del Toro flat-out tweeted Fuck Konami a couple times. If he's in the game, I'd say that's a pretty serious *bridge* burned.
Then again, there's the possibility that Konami sold the rights off to Sony (MGS, SH) and Survive was the last thing already in production before the split. That would be incredible. But as it stands, there's a company burnt to the ground over this, so we'll see what happens when the smoke finally clears.
Too bad everyone absolutely hates Survive. The story honestly isn't that bad, not to mention the implications it raises in the video.
You guys never post anything that's not worthwhile to watch, definitely turning on that bell notification... I never do that for other channels. You spoil me so good.
I normally don't believe these theories, but the "J" thing was definitely kind of a smoking gun...
J has to be Joakim, Kojima's alter-ego, he's credited in SurviVe cause yes SurviVe is Kojima's idea. He is J and J is him.
Around 37-38 minute mark.
Apex Shadow 36:57
"Well, I don't believe in coincidences. Something funny's going on"
Keep up the superlative work!!
The answer to all of this is in MGRR . . .
- NANOMACHINES, SON! - by Senator Armstrong
Anyone remember Metal Gear Solid: Ghost Babel on Gameboy Color? It was said to be not canon but when you beat the game, they refer to the player as "Jack", implying that you've been playing Ghost Babel as someone named Jack going through a VR mission. Note that Ghost Babel was released BEFORE MGS2. So the entire game was a foreshadowing to Raiden. People compare Ground Zeroes to Tanker mission but I think the true "Ground Zeroes" of MGS2 was Ghost Babel being that it was a separate game that foreshadowed a surprise character for the next game. Now, how do you think they brought this all together even closer? They made multiple references to Ghost Babel in MGS2 including a poster on a wall just like Phantom Pain did with Ground Zeroes poster. So to me, that Ground Zeroes poster was a "wink wink" to the Ghost Babel poster. Saying us "yep, previous game was a VR mission just like Ghost Babel."
"J" is written just under the name of Noboyuki Sasaki as if it is a hint reference to Johnny Sasaki, an icon character in all MGS games, who was the laughing stock in all MGS games which was revealed to be an important character in MGS4. Keep in mind the Meryl squad is the same one from Policenauts game and you know this game is about space and spacesuits. Kojima loves to link all his games. This can't be a coincidence.
Time to drop everything and watch this
i love how you get the music just right for every video
Oh look! My sunday morning & a new Python selkan video about DS arrived! Perfect morning indeed.
Just when I thought I was out, PythonSelkan pulls me back in!!! And reminds me I know nothing about DS!
All these coincidences cannot be for nothing. E3 gunna be lit 🔥
can´t wait!
What if MGSurvive is the Hell, Death Stranding the Purgatory and then... It's Outer HEAVEN?
"Unitl we meet again, Python & Selkan.... out!" Fucking love you guys. Keep up the mindblowing work!
I'm really starting to think that this whole Konami shafts Kojima and makes a subpar Metal Gear game thing is a massive conspiracy and in a few years time, when the themes in the two most recent Metal Gear games and Death Stranding make more sense, Kojima will reveal that he's been working with and for Konami the whole time and then a Metal Gear Solid 6 is made that ties up all the remaining issues. The game ends with a sequence where we start as Solid Snake, beating Venom and fleeing. We switch to Venom where he is on the verge of death and saved by Dr. Madnar. As they leave, The real Big Boss shows up to help the survivors. Then, we see some work being done on Venom, including his cyborg ninja body and his mental state being brought back to Frank Jaeger, but still fragmented. Then it skips to the fight against Big Boss in MG2. We see some mysterious people Ocelot and Eva included, show up to retrieve the remains of the body. Then, skip to the Solidus fight. In the aftermath, some mysterious people collect his body. Then cutscenes of Ocelot and Eva scheming to take down the Patriots and Ocelot brainwashing himself into believing he was Liquid. Then a brief shot of the bodies of Big Boss and Solidus side by side as they take parts from Solidus and repair Big Boss.
Then, we get a scene of when the AI network is shut down in MGS4. Big Boss suddenly comes to life again and it ends with us seeing from his perspective, Old Snake on his hands and knees, reeling from his failed suicide attempt. I'd like that a lot.
Dear Mr. Kojima - I know it's You making those videos. It's impossible too catch all those hints. Keep doing Your job! You're making our lives more exciting! 😁
I'm joking 😁 Guys, You're incredible! I'm always excited when Your new video appears and I'm always impressed after wathing it! Great job!!
I'm joking - I know it's You, Kojima-san! 😂
YOU DID IT!!! YES!!!
great video, the ending gave me chills :D
Kojima left traces of this all over, and is playing us like a damn fiddle. Pachinko machines might be a good suorce of income, but not till the MGS budget runs out and Konami CEO Kojima can't keep up with this ruse. Gotta love to see the ending of this live action story!
I get excited whenever i see one of your big analysis videos. Great work! You're pretty good.
You know at this point I'll take anything to justify my purchase
Edit: Okay now I actually want to pick up the game again, amazing theory man
So in a sense, could MGS V be considered a "vicarious" experience? (V for vicarious, virtual, or whatever)
Impeccable work as always brothers. The lost box sold me, I remember Kojima talking about that mechanic for Death Stranding., and you then see the underwater sky haha. Great job deciphering all of this PS!
Amazing video. I was expecting you to do something like this
Omg how come no one noticed J in the credits, insane!
I swear I always know when y'all drop a video it's almost creepy, great work as always
The purgatory sequence will be in first person? I wonder if it will be like the P.T. Demo where you have to escape that purgatory. Maybe the setting will be however you die
"Betray the fuck out of your fucking audience!" -Kojima the GOAT
fuck me!! that "J" thing, scared me ;_;
All of the "Ruse Cruisers" at this point: ruclips.net/video/JSXGagNzNLw/видео.htmlm27s
Myself included, ever since before launch. I was on board with the Gray Fox = Venom theory
And years later, the rabbit hole just keeps going deeper. Er... worm hole
Keep up the good work and keep the connections coming.. not long till E3
A lot of people who didn't even finish watching and never watched your previous series.
Sad!.
So Ito was the creature designer for MGSurvive? Hmm. So after the silent hills fiasco they put him on the team that made Survive, I guess.
But this can't be true cause it would mean that all these Metal Gear Survive haters were hating a game carrying Kojima's ideas and it would expose them as the blind hypocritical fanboys they are. 😱 Great video!
Michael Reed The hell are you talking about? Microtransactions are to run faster and not obligatory like EA games, where the coins are only won through money and in MG Survive they are won ingame. Also spears are the worst weapons in the game. There are no loot boxes, only SB that are won in online matches and not buyable. Also LB are random-award-generating microtransactions
My initial intuition on the connections between MGS and Death Stranding is that it can be explained with two factors. Main one being that its the same creator and these are themes he really wants to push as a story teller. He probably wasnt able to do fully explore these themes under Konami.
I have a theory as well. Im assuming Konami has ownership of any conceptual content that Kojima was working on before parting with the company. They probably used whatever they could from that initial material of his and squirted out MGS Survive. Which further explains away any connections.
Of course only time will tell.
I get a feeling that Konami just took Kojima's ideas that he might have expressed some year(s) before he left the company to quickly come up with a game that is in my eyes a pretty generic zombie survival game that Kojima never would have put his name on, and that's why we also see similarities in Metal Gear Survive and Death Stranding, like a final attempt to hurt Kojima maybe even to the extent to say Kojima "stole" Konami's ideas. Idk i get a bad feeling about it and it wouldn't be that surprising given the information about how Konami handles things.
Again explain J? What was it P.T. and J warned you about in 2014? Oh yeah... *DON'T TRUST THE NEWS!* What do you think was being implied? You're being duped! A final attempt of hurting their Digital Entertainment Division Vice President? Do you have a single piece of evidence of that being the case or are you yet again swallowing Kojima's lies with a smile? From a consumer expectation stand-point the man is *NOT* to be trusted! I played MGS2 in 2014 and even I realise this. On top of all this, Hideo Kojima has already lied about the number of staff even working at his new studio, claiming it'd be capped to 100. Listen anybody who sincerely believe's Death Stranding releasing this year being somehow finished and polished by just 100 people (Despite Mads Mikkelsen saying he's 300 the same year.) in less than 2 years stable development. An open-world game in that time requires 300 people, not 100. It's literally impossible for something like Death Stranding to be made this quickly with just 100 people. Impossible.
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doop00
Fully agree with you
Unless it was in developement for quite some time already.
totally agreed
No matter how long, these videos always end too soon.
Watching this on a 27" monitor with haptic headphones. Your guys' vids have so much value put into em, just watching normally does no justice.
But Metal Gear Survive's Dite is the future of earth and not the year 1975. Unless the game lies to the players about that to distract them from the fact that it's a hallucination. Great work as always though.
NICE ! you really made my days guys, thank you!
This man and his videos all deserve more publicity!
definatly!
Playing MGS5 again at the moment, its amazing all the stuff I missed and you guys put so much clarity on it
Another brilliant and compelling video with tremendous pacing and editing. Amazing work and I hope in time your theories are proven right and you are truly vindicated.
Nice video PythonSelkan :)
The water in MGSurvive seems to be the black oil substance in Death Stranding. It seems to be heavier than the water and floats to the bottom and pools, so you just assume it's water in Survive if you assume you're in walking around in air, but if your're already under water then it's something else, which connects to DS again with the black substance everywhere on the ground. It seems life is made of the substance itself since it leaks from Norman, the baby turns into it, and it's on the protagonists face before the baby doll floats to him. PT and the silent hill games also had a ton of black-ish substances everywhere. In PT when you die, the paper bag is all black at the bottom and tells you "Watch out. The gap in the door... It's a separate reality. The only me is me. Are you sure the only you is you?" I think it's the baby, and he takes it's place somehow? Just like in DS, the baby turns to the black oil substance and is shown inside Norman. In PT you can also find a message that says "Forgive me, Lisa. There's a monster inside of me" so maybe you're taking someone else's place when you die.
Ya know when I first found these videos, I was like...”this is all reaching/bull” then I was like...but why do I love it so much? Now I’m just like “what will they think of next”
Lots of really consistently great content. You demonstrate a lot of creativity, have you ever considered creating an original IP?
Always awesome guys , love your videos and whatever game you make videos about I’ll follow you
AMAZING!! that "J" in Survive credits cannot be dismissed. What are the chances of the same letter popping up in PT, Death Stranding, and Survive?!
You guys did it! this is the most convincing evidence for me.
Another Amazing video!!! Thank You!!
theres nothing better than an good old metal gear theory/conspiracy video
i think they will never die out
This E3 explodes heads, Great job. The video is great I know we are right direction and discorevy the truth.
Thank you for all my friend, this pain almost going and the hope is borning in ours hands.
June is coming.
I like the J connection very much
Hmm the waters above, I wonder if Tartarus gets a mention. The giant creature in death stranding, is that possibly a Titan. "They are here, on our Earth. And they oversee all" Kojima hinting at the 'Watchers'
Man this is better than LSD!
Metal Gear Survive is The Phantom Pain we feel for not getting the best out of MGSV. They even made the title initial MG:SV
If metal gear solid 6 happens it will be the biggest game in history
@PythonSelkanHD Guys you are constantly amazing me with the level of detail in your analysis videos and if all of your theories are confirmed upon the release of Death Stranding as they were with MGSV then I will be extremely impressed.
This is getting crazy now. I’m so hyped to see what death stranding actually is.
Kudos on the video my friend, I've been really hoping it's gonna find a way to relate with mgs and continue the beloved series. But these vids and archillect give me food for thought while we wait for E3.... Maybe gameplay♡♡
What if Kojima had planned to get fired so he can come to America for a bigger budget. Then do collaboration with Konami.
Man. Amazing job like always. After watching this. I have to say. Mg survive could be a secret project from kojima Before he left company. FCKING unreal .
10/10 video m8
J.F KATIME you haven't watch it all
Man, someone needs to get in touch with YongYea about this shit.The coincidences and the timing of all this shit, even the release of the latest Death Stranding trailer followed by the release of Metal Gear survive only three months later... I might just have to subscribe to his Patreon and force him to respond to this video.
It's really strange that a high profile designer like Masahiro Ito worked on a "crappy" game like MGS Survive which was destined to get bad reviews...somethings fishy there....also something you didn't mention: remember when Kojima was talking about the stick and rope thing? Now MGS Survive is all about the stick (practically the only weapon in the game), defending yourself against zombies...the counterpart death stranding would have to be the other component, the rope, meaning it's all about connections. Possibly connecting MGS, PT, silent hills and so on.....very interesting
I don't care if Kojima denied it or not, Death Stranding and Metal Gear Solid is connected. I know it, Kojima knows it, Konami knows it, we all know it.
"I believe beacause I have too....even if it is a lie" - Naked Snake, 1964
This is so sick! I already knew this! I'm glad someone's making the videos and getting everyone else on board. When I dropped a similar theory 4 years ago it was shrugged off as "asinine" by the reddit community.
it was quiet in my head until I watch this video, and now they're only fiddles
Realistically, Konami had early designs for what Kojima had in store for Silent Hills, which was about multiple dimensions too and made it their own. Survive and Death Stranding does look very similar to each other in a number of ways but the downside to the similarities is with Dite itself.
See, Dite is the future version of Earth basically collapsing in on itself, the Lord of Dust (the main boss of Survive)'s goal is to go back in time and destroy Earth turning it into Dite, which it can then rinse and repeat destroying Earth over and over and over again. So it's not Death Stranding's Purgatory at all, sure Dite still exists once you stop the time loop but that's merely for you to play in the environment after completing the game rather than story value.
Choosing the ending where you turn on your friends and "go home" has you become a mother base wanderer that Venom recruits in MGS5, and those soldiers have gone insane due to being stranded for so long I guess? which accounts for them hallucinating the whole Dite storyline in the first place.
So in the end, Dite isnt real, it's all in their heads, and about time travel and not the after life.
Amazing as usual I’m speechless wow
This is arguably one of your more convincing theories, Selkan.
Wait what? Masahiro Ito worked on Survive?!
I didn't know that. Pretty wild. The animation of the zombie vs the nurse was really uncanny.
Yeah I was amazed, clearly not his best work....
What if DS was the next title they were working on at KJP for Konami? I'm sure Hideo had talked a bit about the project with his team and this is, most likely, a nod to his work from his old coworkers. A way to rub it on Konami's face for getting rid of Kojima.
Explain J? Stop going to answers that quite literally have no evidence just, because it is convenient and simple to you... You can't explain this J business as a simple nod, cause it's clearly more than that given the implication of Joakim and *P.T.'s* Swedish radio-warning telling you the year before Konami supposedly went to hell to not trust the news in 2014 in a blatant fourth wall break.
J is the Connection, now who is this J?....Holly Crap, Jordan Vogt-Roberts, it's Jordan, he is the connection!
Kojima, Joakim, J-oakim Mogren.
There are a few things standing in the way of making this theory true: Sony and Konami would have to be collaborating with one another in order to allow Kojima to create all this cross-over content. This would mean that Sony hired Konami/Kojima productions to make a Sony exclusive title, same as when they had From Software do an exclusive which was Bloodborne, for that would be the only rectifiable answer for Kojima leaving Konami and yet still somehow working for them. In other words, there must be an agreed upon business deal going down between Sony and Konami for this to work out properly, otherwise all these connections (theme of Death Stranding, hah) are simply ideas that Kojima told to his Konami co-workers before he left, and are now simply being dropped into Metal Gear Survive. I would not put it past Kojima to have initially wanted to connect all three of these games, and in the event that he got fired was unable to, resulting in all these similarities. Regardless of whether or not this is true, and how unlikely it may seem (though even the unlikeliness of things is doubtful in my mind), I can't help but pray that the theory presented by PythonSelkan here is true. It would alleviate so much of the agitation I feel every time I think about how Silent Hills got buried, MGSV got disgraced, and how it's name is now being dragged through the mud by Konami, and frankly, if all of this is one big collaboration between Kojima, Konami, and Sony, then this means that Kojima has firmly cemented himself as the King of Trolls.
Has anyone else noticed the keys on the table in P.T may represent Mads?? It's 4 old fashioned keys with 1 modern key on the same ring
You guys really do go above and beyond. I mean, you actually PLAYED survive! That is true dedication
Man I would be completely blown away if MGSV, slient hills, metal gear survive and death stranding we're all connected
2012 - 2013 J-oakim/KoJima
2014 J in P.T. crash-screen
2016 J shown on arch of bridge in DS trailer 2
2017 Konami appointing J in charge of the MG twitter.
2018 J seen in credits of SurviVe
Come the fuck on...
What still gets me though is when Ocelot is talking with the real Big Boss at the end of MGSV. Big Boss, smoking his real cigar, still has Keifer's voice. Shouldn't it be David Hayter's? I remember seeing that scene and STILL hoping to FINALLY hear David's voice after all that. Please explain.
the city in survive called "dite" could be a possible hint. in greek "dite" (δειτε) means to look. Like they are saying take a look at this.
I feel like Kojima is making it very obvious he's adding to the MGS story & if you can't see it you're kinda slow.
OMG, Young Yea fanboys are going to be pissed.
so in the metal gear solid servive was a prequel and our character was actually in the void and he returned from there clost his mamores and also if you notice their some shadow crppey figure flooting or something I don't know if it's a helicopter but it's not i saw it
I still find it hard to believe that they'd make up a fake beef between Kojima and Konami lasting for years, and that mainly affects Konami's finances and reputation, all so at the end of the run Kojima just can have a couple of lulz saying "haha, fooled you guys, me and Konami were never in conflict, DS is actually Silent Hills in a parallel universe". More than likely, Konami used a lot of ideas Kojima had for Silent Hills and they used them for Survive, and that's it. Still, awesome series of videos, your editing and use of sound bites is amazing.
If MGS Ground Zeroes is a simulation, then at the expense of the fact that in Ground Zeroes it was possible to capture live 2 unique people under the callsign of Finger and Eye. And after that they appeared in MGSV: TPP?
And I thought I seen everything •_• now I can rip
Great analysis video :)
DEAM . IF I WOULD WORK FOR THE FBI I LL HIRE YOU GUYS
HELL OF A JOB
My mind is blown I have no words
NANOMACHINES.... SON!!!
36:36 And the name is right below a "wireframe" Pyramid head.
"So show me... that you too can return to this world, for revenge."
INCREDIBLE!
Hey pythonselkan thanks for the vid its awsome, kept us waiting huh?
My brain's reaction to that intro: D: