Impact M3 High Power Tuning - FX Masterclass
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2021
- Famed airgunner Ernest Rowe takes you through tuning of the Slug Power Kit of the Impact M3. The slug power kit will drastically increase your speed and ft/lbs of energy.
Sections
Test speed - 0:53
Micro wheel adjustment - 1:31
Valve adjustment - 2:30
Tuning overview - 6:18
Tune Shown In Video
Macro Wheel - 16
Micro Wheel - 3.5
Valve Adjuster - Line 4.5
1st Reg - 185 Bar
2nd Reg - 150 Bar
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Thxs for the videos and the time you take to explain the gun. As a added note for others that own this gun, to shoot different pellets/slugs you WILL have to tune it to the pellet/slug you are shooting and also maybe adjust your scope. A lot of airgunners say the H&N Grizzlies are a bad pellet/slug, but I get them to shoot good in my Impact, crown, avenger, and hatsan neutron star. You have to tune the gun for each pellet/slug you shoot, and YES, it's time consuming but worth it. Just remember/keep in mind, that's why you have adjustable regs and hammer springs. That's what makes it fun also !!!
Thank you. Will help a lot on my new and first Impact.
Hi fellow air gun enthusiast. I had a major issue with my mk2. .35. And I was feeling like Fx just really didn’t care about us their customers. Well I have a update. I have been in touch with the good people here in the us offices and we have reached a very amicable resolve. This is one of a very few instances where I am happy that I was wrong. I was treated with the utmost respect and I honestly have only praise to say. Thank you very much without putting peoples names on the net without permission. You three people I spoke with thank you. For your understanding and the generosity of your time and resource.
Sincerely Joshua p.
Man that is awesome to hear, thanks, it gives me even more confidence in my FX purchase i am anxiously awaiting !
I love it I love watching your videos
Thanks, Ernest.
Muy buen video como siempre un fenómeno saludos desde ARGENTINA 👏👏👍👍🇦🇷
The Impact 3 is a complicated gun, but then I went back and looked at several reviews and figured out why my micro/macro wheel wasn't working. 1st off, it's the 2nd reg that actually controls the fps. I went back and re-set my regs, and I'm now getting the adjustability that you get in your reviews. This is my setup, 1st reg 160, 2nd reg 125, micro on 8 and micra at 3 and now I can get the different fps I desire. With this tune (25 ca 600mm barrel) power wheel on 16 I get 1015 fps, on 8 I get 970, and on 4 I get 945. My valve adjuster is on line 4. I did set the 1st reg on 170, and the 2nd on 135 and I was getting 1080 fps, so that's why I went with the setting I have now. (By the way I am shooting the H&N hunters/hunter extremes 28.20 grains). What screwed me up was the 1st reg. I was thinking the gun was shooting off the reg when it got down to 150. Didn't realize the gun goes off the 2nd reg, which also sets my fps. If I turn the 2nd reg up to 140 I'm getting 1100 fps. THE IMPACT IS A POWERHOUSE AND ALSO VERY ACCURATE EVEN WITH THE HIGHER REG SETTINGS.
Thank you 🎯👍🏽🍻
Wow this is so easy to adjust.
Good informative video ER, waiting on my M3- maybe after RMAC- like a kid at Xmas- heck of a piece they’ve built this time, and we all know they’ll top this one somehow. Thanks
Waiting on mine too Dave!
So how are you liking your m3 so far?
Hi ER, just recieved my FX impact M3 .177 shot JSB from 10.34 to 16.2, perfect shots, but the slugs got it jammed....pls let me know how to clear the jammed barrel....
Hi, Where can I get the mounting bracket for the chrono? Have not seen that included with the FX chrono.
Greetings to you. What would you recommend the reg. settings to be for a .22 shooting 25.39gr knockout slugs? Meany thanks
Mr Rowe, I just got an Impact M3 700mm sniper with slug power kit in .22 and heavy slug liner . I want to tune it to shoot 23-25g slugs at about 960fps for hunting crows etc at up to about 100m. I am on front reg at 150 bar and rear about 110. That seems to max out at about 1030fps but I find I can turn the valve adjuster way past line 4, like 6 turns and still get a lot more velocity. I cant get the accuracy so far from hours of fiddling with the slugs that I was getting with it when it a was in .30 caliber with pellets. I have tried about 8 weights and different slug brands so far any suggestions please to make it better.
Thank you Sir
Mr Rowe, I am in Australia will you be doing a segment on the Wildcat 3 in terms of fitting the 2.5 power plenum and transfer ports etc, I believe the 2.5" power plenum is your design so be great if you could do a short segment on fitting it, reason is that there appears to be a few variants out there, some air tubes have a washer some have 2 holes to remove the back section, are they all the same when it comes to fitting the 2.5" PP on the MK 3?
Greetings to you. What would you recommend the M3. 700mm -
1reg. & 2nd Reg. FPS ?
settings to be for a .22 shooting 25.39gr knockout slugs? Meany thanks
Hi Ernest quick question on the barrel are you using the single port (p) or dual port (s) ?
Question. I'll be shooting @ 990-988fps but I gets these numbers like 974-972. Reg 150bar not sure where to turn
Aloha Ernest. Do you think it would be worth while to upgrade my FX Impact Mkii 's power plenum to the new 720 power plenum? Thank you and Merry Christmas !!! :)
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That the pellet I'm trying to set, nice to see what settings you where on?
Can you tell me best reg settings for .25?
Plan on using hybrids
I have a M3 in 357 and I’m get inconsistent velocities do you have any suggestions
Is there any chance the same video could be done on the fx crown mk2 with the 600 mms barrel. As I am a new too pcp rifle and iam loosing the will to live with my mk2
I got FX Impact MK3 700 mm in 0.30 with slug liner from Utah Airguns, custom tune for FX Hybrids 44.5. I am getting 930 fps with Donny FL Shogun and the following Utah Airguns settings: Reg1=175, Reg2=120, Front Valve = 12 mm, Macro=16, Micro=4. I was able to increase velocity to 952 fps by following this video and ended up with these settings: Reg1=175, Reg2=125, Front Valve = 11.25 mm, Macro=16, Micro=4.75. I would like to know what else can be done to push FX Hybrids to 965 - 980 fps range.
Just turn your second reg up about 5 bar at a time till you reach your speed that's what I did as long as your first reg is higher you will be fine 🙂
I have a Chinese Artemis P 1215 inch barrel that shoots 21 green Nielsen slugs 1080 FPS at .413 of an inch at 100 yards. How long is your barrel on that gun 5 foot
Any new updates from FX about a FX M4 that's spits slugs accurate at 1200 fps in .22 with a heavier barrel.
For .22 it was factory set at 75, but keeps leaking… seems like the valve will not always close if the second stage is under 100bar. What should be done?
My factory Setup was whit 580ccm bottle out of bottle 200 Bar,1st Regulator 152Bar Powerwheel on 15 whit 130 Bar, 600mm Barell 0.22 Cal... Vetile Between Bottle and Barell is on 4th Ring...
@@raven2512 Have the same MK3 issue while being on 70 bar valve stayed open ! my 1st stage was swinging up and down to keep up the flow (leaking)! (have video).... my retailer Krale, importer, in NL has never seen this before!!
Ernest.... Please.. is their a minimum for the 2nd reg like 80 bar or so to secure valve closure?
@@michel9381 I have even emailed but get 0 response, really shitty after spending 2150 euro
Good morning . I would need help to calibrate my fx m3 air rifles in cal. 30 I am using these sinkers (H&N GRIZZLY PIOMBINI CAL, 9 MM - WEIGHT; 8.2 GRAMS - 85 PCS). I looked for the network and since this is a new model and caliber there are still no parameters that must be used for the best performance weight, power and calibration of the air settings of the rifle. I saw that in the cal. 25 the speed was calibrated about 960! Does my ball also have to be put at that speed? Is that the speed at which you get the best performance? Since you are the best in this field if you could help me I would be very grateful! I am waiting for your reply. Thank you in advance for your courtesy and professionalism. Sincerely Roberto Alessi Thank you
How did you 185 on first reg?..mine only get to 170 max..m3 30 cal
Ernest, you are the epert along with Matt, so I need to know what may be the problem with my Impact 3, I have set it up just like you have, and my problem with my gun (25 cal 600 mm barrel) is my power wheel and micro adjuster doesn't really work. I can set the power wheel on 1 and I'm getting 900fps, PL 4, still 900 fps PL 8, 900 fps, PL 12, 900 fps. If I go on PL 16 then it drops down to 885-900 fps. On each level I shoot 5-6 rds to give the hammer spring time to settle but for some reason nothing changes. I sent the gun to FX in North Carolina, and the guy said he fixed the problem but the gun is still doing the same thing. Any suggestions that might help, or do I need to request another/new gun ? Only had it for 2 months.
Hi Anything we will talk to our customer service and technician department see how we can best find a solution for you.
You used the slug side of the barrel too do this and what max speed on pellet port
if i buy a FX M3 0.35 cal , and i also buy fx barrel 0.25 cal to install to the gun, is it going to work normaly(option 1) ? Or, I buy a FX M3 0.25 cal, and i buy 0.35 cal barrel to install on it (option2) ? which option is right for my choice ? Well, Im going to buy a FX M3 that can shoot 0.25 ,0.3 , 0.35 calibers, where do i start ? thanks! (i mean i buy one gun with few different caliber: 0.25,0.3,0.35)
Just got my .25, 700 mm, M3 a couple weeks ago. I paid for the slug tune with the 34.9 Nielsen slugs. First reg was at 160, second at about 130. After a couple shots the first reg dropped to around 130 too. It has moved around over the last two weekends (back up to 160 and down again) of shooting and accuracy hasn’t really been all that good. Just wondering if the first reg should be doing this or is there a problem?
Thanks Mr. Rowe, love your vids!!
I had same problem with one of my 2 MK3's and my first reg was even swinging up and down whit out thouging the gun. Sometimes when i cocked the gun and removed the magazine I could hear a leak!! I have video as I could not believe and only when I showed video my reseller/NL importer believed it. They never seen this. my gun is gone for 4 weeks and no annswer. I believe this is vlave issue.
@@michel9381 I have been in contact with Utah Airguns and they have been very helpful so far. They sent me another 1st stage reg. I installed it and set it to 160 and was very consistent, that weekend. The next time I took the gun out of the case, the 1st reg was sitting at 200….I had not touched it. ?????? Still waiting to hear the next step for a solution.
@@Craizg35 In my situation the the air was flowing whilst not toughing the gun...
Also the 1st reg is extremely light to adjust compared to other reg's I have on other FX's (crown).
Two light fingers on the allen key.
Hi i having the same problem with mine i send my rifle for repair 1 time already and the fx ingenier said that the rifle was fine he just polished the 1st Regulator but i having the exact same problem again.
The Maverick has the same speed. What's the difference between them?
Ernest Great video. But I see you start at 150 b on the second reg. I shoot 100m match H&N .217 or ZAN .218 (very good) .22 - 23 gr with a setting of 150 b 1st reg - 115 d 2nd reg - macro at 8 and micro at 3. 700mm heavy barrel speed is avr 984 ft. dev 2.9. Would you advise to go up to 150 b 2nd reg and from there tune or keep low as I am doing now ...... I'm Looking for best consistency - accuracy
BTW when I measure speed I do 2 shots to "wake up" the gun and the next 5 are the measure..... as in a match they will count
If you are happy with that tune then leave it alone but if you want higher power then just turn Second reg up a lil at a time for higher fps just make sure your first is higher then Second reg .... I'm shooting 34 gr 218 javelin slugs at 1020 fps first reg is at 195 bar Second reg is at 170 bar
Wanna get into this but damn pcp is pricey to get started. Beautiful rifle, just gotta keep saving.
Hi I have m3 700mm barrel and I replaced heavy hammer I want to 1000 fps and accuracy how do I tune would you provide me I a menu? And I use pallet? .25 caliber 25.39 grain jsb
Nice
How i tune my fx ms .30caliber barrel 800 mm for 975 fps
Mr. Rowe, is there a maximum -- bar -- setting for the first regulator? In this video you state that the first reg is at ~185 bar. My owners manual recommends a max setting of 170 bar for the first reg.
Thanks for another informative video.
In the manual its only a recommendation as a safe zone, as you know more reg pressure will have more stress on orings and the reg piston, i was showing how to tune at that reg pressure you can use he same processes at any given reg pressure.
We suggest keeping it at factory settings unless you need to raise your second regulator. Then be sure to keep the 1st reg atleast 30 bar higher than the 2nd reg.
@@hightidelowtide6380 I emailed FX and they said not to fill the gun above 250 bar. My bottle says 310 bar, gun says 250 bar and manual says 300 bar. Mine is .25 cal M3.
@@hightidelowtide6380 what does it say on the gun above the 1st reg? I think they all say 250 bar. This is the max fill pressure FX is recommending for the gun.
Jesus guys.It means that the bottle can handle 300bar but the gun can't.If the gun explode after 250bar or some part fly and hit you that is on you!
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Which caliber an grains sir?
At 185 and 150 I thought the valve adjuster no longer mattered?? I remember hearing Matt Dubber say with that amount of pressure the valve will close itself regardless of where it is set. But here I see Ernest still playing with the valve adjuster (and it seems as though Matt was right, it mattered very little.
Thoughts?!?
There's always been a conflict on which is best. Best way is to experiment.
I found that the rubber ball from the slug kit will not allow the valve to be turned in so much. Was the rubber ball removed in this build?
The M3 has no rubber ball at the end of the spring the two rubber ball has been relocated behind the short pin guide.
@@ernestrowe5061 Hi Ernest. I see in the schematics that the rubber balls are in front of the valve piston so no need to add another rubber ball from the slug kit?
Also, the 72cc plenum is now available on the market for the MKI/MKII. Will installation be the same as with power plenum?
Thank you Brother.
@@ronb386 hi, only changing two parts. You Can use my plenum install video
@@ernestrowe5061 Thank you 🤙🏼
What is that bipod name? I like it. Maybe waiting for 6-12 months for the M3 30 call pre-order.
Accu Tac FC 4 G2
@@michel9381 thanks.
@@marierosellev Not just great looks ... superb bipod. Next to Atlas I have and others.... this one is rock solid and my favourite for 100 meter match shooting.
Im getting only 860 Fps, with 44.5 Grain Slugs. in .30 cal and that makes it 101 Jouls of Energy. And that is kinds low in comparison to the website Numbers. Am I doing something wrong ?
Slugs at 950fps to 1000 thats where they are at best performance
Sir,how much impact fx m3??looking for avail?phillippines area
What is best Fps at which 18.13 jsb shooting very accurately in 700mm impact mk2
880 to 900 fps
@@chrisfigueroa3361 Yes, and Ansari if you need more help with your tune please feel free to e-mail our technicians or call in. You can find support through our website at FXairguns-usa.com
Nah I'm good I have both mk2 25 700mm shooting 34 gr varmint knockers at 1000fps one hole accurate at 50 one inch at 100 yards and my m3 22 700mm shooting 31.2 gr nsa at 1000fps 50 yards one hole and 1 inch at 100 yards im good 👍 both rear regs are at 160 bar I go for high power slug shooting fx usa thanks tho no pellets here I don't even buy them lol once you see the light you don't go back in my opinion 😉
@@chrisfigueroa3361 with those settings, how many rounds can you shoot before you fill up?
Can you please show me the tuning by writing it here so i can get 1040+ to go.
Info on Slug kit for m3 please.
Please contact a dealer for M3 Slug power kits :) a list of dealers in the US can be found at FXAIRGUNS-USA.com
Why don't FX make an heavy slug barrel for .177 ?... I want to try 24gr n up in .177 !
Hi just got a fx Impact m3 standard fac it's firing at 42ft lbs reg 1 is on 145 reg 2 is on 95 what would yiu recommend to get power up to around 50,60 ftlbs thanks
No extras needed , you can just tune it up to get there . The Impact M3 can do that easily
@FXAirguns would I have to play about with the second reg turn up slightly as wheel for hammer spring is on 16 thanks
@@DavidWalker223 It’s a game of balance between the regulator/Hammerspring tension and valve . But you can start by raising the 2nd regulator with 1/4 turn
@FXAirguns great thanks will let yous know how I get on thanks
What caliber was this ?
Ernest great video but you didn't cover 1 regulator. pressure and valve adjuster
2nd/rear reg was stated at 150b i have covered the reg adjustment on pass video. All depends on your tune, for me I don’t like going over 150b and don’t like messing with the reg pressure in the way up and down as you know the reg adjustment screw has two 2x1mm oring thats a lot of stress on them if you adjust a lot. I can cover high and low fps with 150b so I don’t need to adjust the reg as much on the m3.
The valve adjustment little over line 4 is when the C1 start to hit the pin with rubber ball backing that when you see speed drop at the high end now if your at the low end the C1 has less travel so you have to turn in the valve adjustment more for the CI start hitting the pin to drop the speed. In other words every time you change speed the valve adjuster has to be fined tune to get best performance
Now if you could do the Crown mk2, that would be mine..
how mach ?
Can any one let me know good settings to put my m3 compact in 25. On ? And save me a lot of time 😂 I’m gonna be shooting 26g fx hybrids.
How much 1pcs sand to Indonesia sir
Do you recommend installing the slug kit hammer weight spacers for the M3 Impact or just the pin probe?
Hi, the stock M3 has the two spacer already. I would install the pin probe if you want higher speed if you don’t need that extra speed leave as is.
@@ernestrowe5061 the m3 has no Preinstalled spacers… I first used two spacers but I’m back to one spacer. It works better for me and is more consistent. By the way some intern experts told me one spacer is the way to go
@@alexanderj.2662 In wich way it more consistent? What was the difference? I installed two washers. Did fx told you to ad one washer?
Thanks!
@@klane7 hi I know from airlocks that you are supposed to just use 1 washer/spacer. It works better
Hi Ernest! I have a fx impact m3 .. I want to ask you a question that you understand about this ..
When I adjust the weapon yesterday with a h & n 25g slug, I leave it at 930 fps and the next day it is not the same ... as if the weapon was deconfigured without touching it ... I tested it today and it no longer maintains the same speed and even 30 fps less and very changeable speeds ..
I would appreciate a lot if you could help or know what it can be? the regulator and the air passage of the valve were fine but nothing was the same anymore.
Thanks
You also have to account for ambient temperatures this can happen pretty easily in the cold or hot. If you tuned at 70 degrees then went out the next day at 45 degrees your going to see slower speeds. Not saying that’s what’s going on just something to keep in mind.
@@TheNickademas1 Thank you, yes, I knew about the weather but towards the same degrees or one up one down... In the end what failed me was the chronic one, I almost went crazy... a friend left me his and it's perfect... thank you all shapes.
Hey Ernest, any tips on getting a more powerful tune on my M3, I have M3 in .22 with the slug power kit installed but can't seem to get a 34gr slug to go any faster than 950fps ?? I've 1st reg 195bar, 2nd reg 160bar, micro and macro at 16 and 4 with valve adjuster out past the 4th line. I've seen other RUclipsrs shooting 34gr slugs in .22 calibre at 1050fps but I can't reach those speeds? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Sam
Maybe your barrel is too short? For these velocities you try to achieve you need a 700 mm barrel
I Keep hearing the M3 was meant to be more powerful than the MK2, but i haven't heard of a 25cal M3 getting over 90ftlb
@@precisionairgunninghunting6265 funny you say that… just today I tried out 160 bar reg pressure and 41 grain slugs with .25 superior heavy 700 mm barrel and I got more than 90 ftlb (125 Joule)
@@creitec6578 nice, though mines closer to 100 on lower reg😁 its just crazy what they can do
@@precisionairgunninghunting6265 yes it is. I have it running on 125 bars with 75 ftlb 36 grain h&n slugs at 965 fps if I remember correctly. What are your settings?
waiting for .357 800mm tuning
What do you set your 3 air gages at please
Easy?😡Two weeks trying to find the good setting to my Impact and it has no accuracy😢 I don't find the key to accurate M3 set macroµ is really difficult. I'm thinking something is wrong in my airgun😓
Sorry to hear that, can you tell me you setup / caliber and all the settings
I want it, can you sell it to me?
You do realize that AEA airguns shoot slugs over 1200 ft./s right and I do it extremely accurately
I was expecting the maximum speed to be quite a bit more than that, closer to 1100 for max. Especially with high reg of 150bar.
He's shooting a 34 grain pellet, probably using a 25-28 grain will get you to 1100 fps. shooter 1721 gets 1050 fps using a 26 grain fx slug with a 600mm barrel. Check out his video on the fx impact 3. I think he set his 1st reg @ 190 and the 2nd reg @ 155-160.
@@anthonygillespie4523 my MK2 would easily get 1100 with 33, 1070 with 36, as for 26 that would be closer to 1200
@@precisionairgunninghunting6265 Yeah, 68 whiskey gets those numbers with his FX impact 3, so I guess it depends on how you tune your gun. My crown shoots 14.3 grains @ 1025 fps with a 380 mm barrel and I could adjust it to get more power. If I put the 700 mm barrel on it I get 1175-1180 fps. My reg is set @ 165. So I guess it depends on the gun. some shoot faster than others. I see where some people fps on their 22 avengers is 925 -930 max. My max so far is 990 with a 14.3 grain. It just depends on the gun. I'm getting an impact 3 today (FINALLY) with the 600mm barrel and I will update you on what it is doing in about a week after I play around with it and tune it. happy shooting in the future
@@anthonygillespie4523 its pretty darn awesome what they can do, especially with a little tweek here&another there.
@@precisionairgunninghunting6265 That's why I like PCP rifles, makes them fun to shoot
Wow plenty of power ...this is what I need n 25cal....hog hunting
You want my 25cal MK2 then, currently can tune upto 97ftlb 😄
@@precisionairgunninghunting6265 if you're serious hell yea I want it 😁
@@bigearl8687 shame so far away, it's just obscene how good it is 😁
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Ok
no one will tell you how to tune this m3 unless you want to pay for it like uta airgun lol or you spend like $1000 of amo find out your self
this is what happend to me
Not for anyone who doest have a clue about these guns
Yes the FX Impact isn’t your beginners airgun and is a very advanced system . We do sell some very easy to tune a simpler models aswel 😉
I feel that was poor instruction. He didn’t explain clearly what he was doing and why and he didn’t clarify the setting as he went along. I don’t think I learnt anything meaningful.
Low 2nd stage: Ernest If have a MK3 leaking big time via valve. shooting JSB 18 gr .22 1st stage 130 2nd at 70b (69) Althoug the manual is showing .22 should run at 70 75 bar, the feedback I am getting from Krale is that the MK3 can not run 2nd stage at 70 bar!!! something is wrong here. Please answer and explain. The answer from Krale is just push it up to 100 bar is strange and basically avoiding a reg failure. BTW see more posts of people having this leak problem. Quality matters
I love it I love watching your videos
Greetings to you. What would you recommend the M3. 700mm -
1reg. & 2nd Reg. FPS ?
settings to be for a .22 shooting 25.39gr knockout slugs? Meany thanks