By heating the metal and quenching it like this you have hardened the metal. If that's OK with you for feel, then this is a good way to protect the metal from future corrosion, however this will not retain the original feel.
the wd-40 isn't the best for stuff for that amount of skin contact, i'd wear rubber gloves so it doesn't seep into your skin and read the msds info. but the club does look nice.
Great video! Would've loved to see you strip and repaint the lettering as part of the process, but I'm definitely going to be trying this on an old titleist 64°.
fucking hell everyone going on about ruining the club. chances are if you have a club this rusty and crusty, you will have already purchased a new one (or you should have!) which means there is nothing to lose. try it, if it feels too hard for you or affects bounce (really!) then put it where it was going anyway, the bin. most people on here probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a forged and cast iron anyway
Doing this without a heat-treatment furnace which has precise temperature control could change the microstructure of the steel alloy. As a metallurgist, I recommend doing this with inexpensive clubs only. Forged club heads have a directional fibrous "grain" arrangement of lattices that relax when heat is applied to them. The amount of heat needed before microstructure transformtion varies widely with the alloying components. (Yes, steel is an alloy)... Please do this on cheap clubs only...I doubt if any high-end manufacturer would recommend this method of "Blueing".
The golf club won’t be used in a manner that the granular structure will matter. There’s no load or tension push or pulled on it. Heat treating mild steel that club makers use won’t matter. It’s a golf club, not a critical aerospace component.
If you like you can also soak in white vinegar at the beginning it will clean better than you can imagine. Takes it all the way back to almost a stainless steel look.
Red wine vinegar actually works twice as fast as white vinegar at stripping the rust off. Not trying to be a smartarse! Just thought I'd put in my $.02 worth...
Rad Adams love your work. Such a cool idea and I cannot believe the number of "expert" trolls and their negative comments. Simple people if you dont like it, then dont do it!!
I'm not sure as to what type of metal is used for club heads, but you just hardened that metal up pretty good. It may become brittle after that heat treatment.
tht lookeeed siicckk..i need to do this to my same unit-!! was thinking to paint it, but this will look more better without paint chips later on right?
When you heat the iron and shock with oil it change metal structure to be harder. It cost felling of the club change. Check metal oxide at the Gun shop it cost 10 buck with easy to used. I going to do this with my wedge and see the result.
Since the metal was not heated to red hot , it will not re harden it, only temper the material remove stress and less brittle if you did right. Since these are not knifes it hard to say the golf hitting effect. Gun bluing material will protect without adding heat but do you need to keep it oiled to prevent rust?
Hi have you try this technique with a marker pen and stove up? Mean you coloring your wedge with the marker pen then you put in the stove then that turn the same color as your oil can.
Rust does nothing performance wise for you. It's been proven on swing machines and launch monitors. Rust on the clubface just messes up your golf ball faster than normal.
i find there is more friction from it. my ball seems to back up more then my black pearl wedge. same ball, same distance, same swing, different wedges, same degree and bounce. with my black pearl it checks up, but with my rtg it comes back.
If you dont remove the shaft you can damage it and it will melt the ferrule. Removing and replacing the shaft is pretty simple...heat up to remove and reglue with epoxy.
Is this a cast or forged head? Can it be cast and do this? I've seen ferrous castings crack when heated and rapidly cooled. I've quenched knives (forget sharpening on a cheap stone after that hehe and they'll break, now devoid of flex). I know Maltby or someone had an idea that doesn't seem to have gone over wonderfully about trying to make a stainless cast head that "feels like forged" and so I was wondering if it was something like heat/quench hardening.
What if the hot AF club head drops into your plastic pitcher? Won't it melt through the plastic and you would have a slight disaster on your hands? Maybe using a metal paint can gallon size and/or some long vise grips so the club head does not slip out. Just a thought. Great looking wedge after the work, congrats.
Wow Nice !! Is it just normal engine oile or? And what about that plastic som kinde og Black thing between the Clinton head and the rod? Nice work by the Way!! Alex
Man, that is badass! I’m going to do my whole set. So after, if the club gets scratched, will it have a silver color underneath, or is it oil colored all the way through? And, does this weaken the metal? Thanks so much!
thanks for sharing your project. My tip of advice is to use the shaft you had and dimple the end so that the clubhead will be a snug fit. This way you can handle the clubhead with the shaft in hand and not use the pliers.
@@JKAdams those cleveland wedges are supposed to rust. I took the rust off one that I found and it all came back. I play with it with the rust on it and I love it! more bite on shots and no sun glare on sunny days.
DiveDeep Im not 100%, but I believe the color is dependent on the temperature you heat it to. I only had propane which doesnt get nearly hot enough for the deeper blues. There are videos on yt that go into detail about it
It helps to start with a chrome or satin finish club to get a deeper blue. The finishes on the these Cleveland wedges are much darker to begin with so they will never get as blue, unless you really sand them down a lot.
If I ever get time I'm going to do another oil quench using a slightly different method with less bad background music and more talking lol. Stay tuned.
You don't by any chance take amphetamine do you?? Nice result but if you by any chance want a game of golf this summer I suggest people start this process in October
You're likely looking at a chrome finish that is placed over nickel (of course, I can't be 100% certain, but that's the majority of irons). You need strong chemicals and possible electrode processes. It's doable, but it's not a simple DIY project, and extremely toxic.
I do ‘t get it. Was the intent just to clean up the club head, to take the tempering out, or to turn it a rustic iron-forged look? Will the finished head respond hitting a golf ball in the same way it did before?
+Scott Willi No, stripping chrome takes a special process and can be kinda dangerous from what Ive read/seen/heard. You can probably find someone selling an old rusty vokey pretty cheap on ebay and do it though. I have an RTG vokey Ill be doing soon.
hey, not sure if you're still interested, but Global Golf has a ton of Oil Can Vokeys for sale for around 20 (plus they have coupons and discounts right now). i just picked up a 52/54/58 and am going to give this a shit.
This is just awesome. Quick question. After the oil dip did you use a degreaser on it or? Reason being I would like to paint fill and am worried about paint and epoxy sticking.
The torch and oil steps seem excessive and dangerous. Some might also permanently discolor the club. I've done mine by soaking in vinegar over night, scrubbing with steel wool, then polish. Done.
Maybe..:but it was a 99 cent wedge I found at goodwill so I wasnt worried about it. And it actually came out good and was used several times. Never had an issue with it
The Backyard Idiot grooves only create part of the spin a rough surface finish is more important. sand blast the face then you will have a really great wedge
Hi, groowes is the most important to get a club playing backspin in this wedge, so if groowes ok, do this job, if time job is free of charge, doin job for your own golf. Old club mostley bad groowes, get at new club, to much job and useless club I say? Still great job, Thanks for sharing!
Literally, my coworker saw my google thumbnail, a picture of a Bridgestone 3 wood and hybrid, and could not tell what they were, despite knowing I teach golf elective in middle school. They do look like UFOs now.
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I enjoyed the Risky Business-esque music throughout.
Every once in a while someone comments on this vid, and I end up sitting thru the entire thing just to laugh. Its such a piss poor video 😂
I’m going to attempt to add gun metal to one of my wedge this weekend
The dog is so chill....wat are these human doin?
You can also reheat it lightly after sanding to "temper" it (not really), but you can make parts of it straw color to blue to deep purple.
How does this hold up with rust after you’re done?
By heating the metal and quenching it like this you have hardened the metal. If that's OK with you for feel, then this is a good way to protect the metal from future corrosion, however this will not retain the original feel.
Do you know the hardening temp of 8620? Its a lot higher than I got the wedge.
Do you think this affects spin?
Used motor oil?
Vice grips. Well done.
the wd-40 isn't the best for stuff for that amount of skin contact, i'd wear rubber gloves so it doesn't seep into your skin and read the msds info. but the club does look nice.
Are there diff oils that will give it a more colorful look ?
Not sure, this was the only time I tried it
i have a few of those rusty wedges and i thought the raw metal was supposed to be rust to give the face a bit more bite on the ball.
hi will this be a permanent solution against rusting?
Nope, slows it down a bit tho!
@@JKAdams thank you. I tried it using coconut cooking oil. Nice touch of dark brown
Is that used motor oil
Yes sir
@@JKAdams nice, and the wedge looks great 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿 And thanks for the quick responce
Why the steel wool on the last step? Reduce glare?
Man its been so long ago I dont even remember lol
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Great video! Would've loved to see you strip and repaint the lettering as part of the process, but I'm definitely going to be trying this on an old titleist 64°.
fucking hell everyone going on about ruining the club. chances are if you have a club this rusty and crusty, you will have already purchased a new one (or you should have!) which means there is nothing to lose. try it, if it feels too hard for you or affects bounce (really!) then put it where it was going anyway, the bin. most people on here probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a forged and cast iron anyway
+Simon Hobden Thank you. The club feels no different than it did before. Besides, I found this wedge in my local goodwill for $1.
Doing this without a heat-treatment furnace which has precise temperature control could change the microstructure of the steel alloy. As a metallurgist, I recommend doing this with inexpensive clubs only. Forged club heads have a directional fibrous "grain" arrangement of lattices that relax when heat is applied to them. The amount of heat needed before microstructure transformtion varies widely with the alloying components. (Yes, steel is an alloy)... Please do this on cheap clubs only...I doubt if any high-end manufacturer would recommend this method of "Blueing".
The golf club won’t be used in a manner that the granular structure will matter. There’s no load or tension push or pulled on it. Heat treating mild steel that club makers use won’t matter. It’s a golf club, not a critical aerospace component.
@@eugenehernandez5037 Chemical "blueing" pickling even penetrant-dye would be a better option.
but would it still provide any sort of corrosion resistance they I suspect this does? @@Warpedsmac
I'll just take the shot 😆
If you like you can also soak in white vinegar at the beginning it will clean better than you can imagine. Takes it all the way back to almost a stainless steel look.
Red wine vinegar actually works twice as fast as white vinegar at stripping the rust off.
Not trying to be a smartarse! Just thought I'd put in my $.02 worth...
Can you oil quench an old bronze putter? Like a PING Anser?
puttputt524 I wouldn't do this to bronze. Get some Flitz metal polish and shine that thing up!
Rad Adams love your work. Such a cool idea and I cannot believe the number of "expert" trolls and their negative comments. Simple people if you dont like it, then dont do it!!
It doesnt bother me, everyone has their opinion lol. Appreciate it man!
i just realized why my projects get messed up. i always do the last step first
As long as you do the last step just one time first you should be ok lmao.
I'm not sure as to what type of metal is used for club heads, but you just hardened that metal up pretty good. It may become brittle after that heat treatment.
Brilliant
+spocktra50 Thanks!
Did he just drop hot metal in a plastic cup…filled with oil…with an ignition source nearby. I saw the dog and kid in the background I was scared “AF”
Oil doesnt just ignite like gasoline. Sure it flamed up, I kinda expected that. This video is what, 6-7 years old? Kid and dog are still fine 👍
Oil doesnt just ignite like gasoline. Sure it flamed up, I kinda expected that. This video is what, 6-7 years old? Kid and dog are still fine 👍
Very cool....im guessing that's used motor oil since it's so black?
This Iz CLE Yep!
Nice video. What about using a bluing agent instead, like Birchwood Casey Super Blue? Would that work as well?
TheGrandmastaD One way to find out 🤷🏼♂️
Disclaimer : No animals, children or Homer Simpson got hurt in making this video.
I cant speak for Homer 😂
tht lookeeed siicckk..i need to do this to my same unit-!! was thinking to paint it, but this will look more better without paint chips later on right?
Any idea on how to clean the sky marks off of the Callaway XR16 (matte black finish)?
THEARKANSASMARINE Try rubbing it with car polish. Something like Maguires ultimate compound/ultimate polish. Chemicals should be a last resort
When you heat the iron and shock with oil it change metal structure to be harder. It cost felling of the club change. Check metal oxide at the Gun shop it cost 10 buck with easy to used. I going to do this with my wedge and see the result.
+teeyai2524 Wedges are already hardened, and a propane torch isn't getting hot enough to change anything about the clubhead.
Since the metal was not heated to red hot , it will not re harden it, only temper the material remove stress and less brittle if you did right. Since these are not knifes it hard to say the golf hitting effect. Gun bluing material will protect without adding heat but do you need to keep it oiled to prevent rust?
Hi have you try this technique with a marker pen and stove up? Mean you coloring your wedge with the marker pen then you put in the stove then that turn the same color as your oil can.
I would have to use 5-30 weight oil for my local climate...😀😀
Nice video!
Or maybe new oil ....
Awesome job great video 👊
+pickle rick Thanks!
+pickle rick Thanks!
nice, but i would have kept it as an rtg, the rust is additional legal friction on the club like sand paper
Rust does nothing performance wise for you. It's been proven on swing machines and launch monitors. Rust on the clubface just messes up your golf ball faster than normal.
i find there is more friction from it. my ball seems to back up more then my black pearl wedge. same ball, same distance, same swing, different wedges, same degree and bounce. with my black pearl it checks up, but with my rtg it comes back.
What polish did you use
Can you do this with the shaft attached? I want to do this on my putter but I don't fancy taking the shaft off I've no idea how to remove and refit 😭
If you dont remove the shaft you can damage it and it will melt the ferrule. Removing and replacing the shaft is pretty simple...heat up to remove and reglue with epoxy.
@@JKAdams thank you so much 😇
what's the dumping in oil for?
m3number86 As far as I know, its just for the finish/appearance.
nice video. how long hold up face and sole?
I've got 21 of the original trusty rusty wedges, of different lofts, that I've warn out over the years. Got any tricks to bring back the grooves?
+ticleve2 Groove sharpener
I've yet to find one worth a damn.
This is one I have used. Worked well and has tips for U and V grooves. amzn.to/2owmf1J
Thanks, it's on order.
Is this a cast or forged head? Can it be cast and do this? I've seen ferrous castings crack when heated and rapidly cooled. I've quenched knives (forget sharpening on a cheap stone after that hehe and they'll break, now devoid of flex). I know Maltby or someone had an idea that doesn't seem to have gone over wonderfully about trying to make a stainless cast head that "feels like forged" and so I was wondering if it was something like heat/quench hardening.
Pretty sure a cast club would crack, plus if you do this to any club it’s now illegal to use
What if the hot AF club head drops into your plastic pitcher? Won't it melt through the plastic and you would have a slight disaster on your hands? Maybe using a metal paint can gallon size and/or some long vise grips so the club head does not slip out. Just a thought. Great looking wedge after the work, congrats.
+Ren May I did accidentally drop it, didn't melt through but you make an excellent point, metal can would be a better idea.
the quench looks much better on Forged in Fire
Leo Lane Im not a pro 😢
Wow Nice !! Is it just normal engine oile or?
And what about that plastic som kinde og Black thing between the Clinton head and the rod?
Nice work by the Way!!
Alex
+Alexander Bejder Yes its used oil leftover from changing oil in our cars.
I got a Cleveland 60 that needs some TLC like this. Great video! Thanks!
Yes sir, make sure to let me see how it turns out!
This looks amazing I have an old rusty Cleveland 588 sand wedge I'm looking at testing some methods on to do my actual clubs.
arent you changing the temper of the club now? changing it hardness and thus its performance?
That was my thought
what are the pros and cons of doing this
+Sam Yager Honestly, its pretty much just aesthetics although it does seem to resist rust much more than before. No cons that I can think of.
This is easier done using an oven and with without the chance of changing the structure of you metal.
Man, that is badass! I’m going to do my whole set. So after, if the club gets scratched, will it have a silver color underneath, or is it oil colored all the way through? And, does this weaken the metal? Thanks so much!
It's the opposite - it typically hardens the metal.
Looks great
How do you put the head of the club back on the shaft
With an epoxy glue. Cant remember the name off the top of my head, its been a while!
It was in the video
Thanks for your great instruction.
After all finished, It is anti-rust? like a plating wedge ?
Thanks.
+Ernesto Kyoungsoo Lee It will still rust but not nearly as fast as before and its easier to clean up.
Thanks a lot for your kindly respond. I will try it. Thanks.
Good work n very nice!
thanks for sharing your project. My tip of advice is to use the shaft you had and dimple the end so that the clubhead will be a snug fit. This way you can handle the clubhead with the shaft in hand and not use the pliers.
Good idea, thanks for the tip!
nicely done! looks great!
+nate sonntag Thanks! Ive got an old
Vokey wedge Im about to do with a hopefully easier method. We'll see.
Did the the club rust after time or did the oil keep it from rusting? Nice video.
Miguel Aniceto It got a little surface rust back, but nothing like it was before.
@@JKAdams those cleveland wedges are supposed to rust. I took the rust off one that I found and it all came back. I play with it with the rust on it and I love it! more bite on shots and no sun glare on sunny days.
Is there a way to get a slightly more blue result?? I'm just getting into club modifying so any advice would be very helpful.
DiveDeep Im not 100%, but I believe the color is dependent on the temperature you heat it to. I only had propane which doesnt get nearly hot enough for the deeper blues. There are videos on yt that go into detail about it
There's a blue formula that people use on rifles when restoring them
It helps to start with a chrome or satin finish club to get a deeper blue. The finishes on the these Cleveland wedges are much darker to begin with so they will never get as blue, unless you really sand them down a lot.
Hey, that club looks very nice when you finished with it. Can't wait to give it a try sometime. I love wedges with a different look.
If I ever get time I'm going to do another oil quench using a slightly different method with less bad background music and more talking lol. Stay tuned.
Nice job!
You don't by any chance take amphetamine do you?? Nice result but if you by any chance want a game of golf this summer I suggest people start this process in October
I have more than one wedge....
Wow nice video i have my eye on some old vokey sm wedges that need refinished.This would be perfect to do.Thx for the awesome video.
I just got some old irons I want to refinish like this, do you know how I can get the original finish off?
What kind of finish is on the clubs?
Soaking them in coca cola removes some finishes, so I've read.
You're likely looking at a chrome finish that is placed over nickel (of course, I can't be 100% certain, but that's the majority of irons). You need strong chemicals and possible electrode processes. It's doable, but it's not a simple DIY project, and extremely toxic.
Very true, removing chrome should be done by a professional with a setup for it. Dangerous stuff to mess with.
I do ‘t get it. Was the intent just to clean up the club head, to take the tempering out, or to turn it a rustic iron-forged look? Will the finished head respond hitting a golf ball in the same way it did before?
Now that was very COOL! Nice work!
+dufferjuice Thanks!
Looks cool. Question...could I pull this off with an old Titleist Vokey with a chrome finish and convert it to am oil can finish?
+Scott Willi No, stripping chrome takes a special process and can be kinda dangerous from what Ive read/seen/heard. You can probably find someone selling an old rusty vokey pretty cheap on ebay and do it though. I have an RTG vokey Ill be doing soon.
The Backyard Idiot Glad I asked...
hey, not sure if you're still interested, but Global Golf has a ton of Oil Can Vokeys for sale for around 20 (plus they have coupons and discounts right now). i just picked up a 52/54/58 and am going to give this a shit.
that's awesome! judging by the clues in the video you are from the new orleans area. if so would you be willing to do clubs for someone local?
+joseph siragusa What clues told you that?
I noticed someone walk by with shrimp boots on in the background and then I seen the shot glass with Audubon Aquarium.
+joseph siragusa Good eye. Im about an hour away from Nola.
Does this finish hold?
This is just awesome. Quick question. After the oil dip did you use a degreaser on it or? Reason being I would like to paint fill and am worried about paint and epoxy sticking.
No I didnt. You could probably just use acetone on a qtip to clean out the lettering...getting degreaser everywhere might strip the oil quenching.
Dustin Meadows Wouldn't the heat ruin the paint?
Did you not watch the video?
9:50 I thought you meant to literally take a shot, with the wedge!
+Graeme That shot comes after the liquor shot 👍👍
Yeah same. Then I realized this guys an alcoholic
amazing result! i have same wedge.
The wedge will feel very very hard, you have tempered the steel. The wedge will loose it soft feel, if it were forged
Waqar Ghulam Feels the same as it did before 🤷🏼♂️
Excellent video, great work!!
Thanks!
Is that used engine oil? If so why not use fresh oil instead - does it make a difference to the finished product?
kharkhov No not really oil is mostly dirty from the start.
Bravo
Cool but that wedge is now hard as hell. Even proVs will feel like topflight xls
+kjsteeljr87able Nope, feels the same...butter.
He didn’t get it hot enough to do any real
Tempering, propane doesn’t get to the correct temp for tempering. Map or oxy acetylene would.
Great vid
Awesome. Loved the burnt part. Reminds me of race car parts
Lmao I love this video
Looks awesome. I wonder if this would work with Rit dye as well?
OMG!!! I want to try this with my Vokey but I'm afraid I might burn my house down! hahaha! Good stuff!
Definitely an outside project 😂
The torch and oil steps seem excessive and dangerous. Some might also permanently discolor the club. I've done mine by soaking in vinegar over night, scrubbing with steel wool, then polish. Done.
Maybe..:but it was a 99 cent wedge I found at goodwill so I wasnt worried about it. And it actually came out good and was used several times. Never had an issue with it
@@JKAdams nice! Good work!
Do you have to remove the head of the club from the shaft?
Yes. By the time you heat it up enough to quench it all the epoxy will melt anyways, and when you try to dunk it the clubhead will fall off.
The Backyard Idiot oh ok thankyou very much
You're welcome!
After removing real shaft I jam an old shaft in for heating part
do you think it works for ping eye2 irons too?
looks nice but won't be producing as much spin now
+Antony Osborn Groove sharpener will fix that, Im not playing a tournament anytime soon 😂
The Backyard Idiot grooves only create part of the spin a rough surface finish is more important. sand blast the face then you will have a really great wedge
Antony Osborn and a new ball each hole! $$$ ;)
Hi, groowes is the most important to get a club playing backspin in this wedge, so if groowes ok, do this job, if time job is free of charge, doin job for your own golf.
Old club mostley bad groowes, get at new club, to much job and useless club I say?
Still great job, Thanks for sharing!
I try to make my Molotov cocktails when my children and pets are not around.
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try masking off ferrule first,you dont want to sand that.
I think that club is what I have and they are RTG's, raw tour grind, which are meant to rust to play softer.
Like my Trusty Rusty wedge.
Wish we knew the Rockwell hardness both before and after! Wondering if it will make it too brittle
thanks for the video brother!
That's so cool. So did it just start out as a raw finish?
+Siouxpreme It was a raw wedge I picked up from goodwill for $1.99. I have a vokey I'm doing next.
The Backyard Idiot you could sell it for 80 now lol. You need to start a business.
Hey if you want to give me 80 ill gladly send it to you lmao!
Its beautiful work man. I collect clubs, so there is definitely a market for this type of thing.
Thank you sir!
What was the purpose of that?
+Michael Bored+goodwill find.
What is the purpose of your comment?
Feels like im watching ufo stuff with that song
Literally, my coworker saw my google thumbnail, a picture of a Bridgestone 3 wood and hybrid, and could not tell what they were, despite knowing I teach golf elective in middle school. They do look like UFOs now.
Wouldn't that Jack up the temper
Would this work on tungsten darts ?
how long did it take to do 1 wedge fully please reply i have 3 to do all my old trusty vokeys
+TheRAZ01 An hour or so. Not too long.