This is what happens when the people who are too scared of firearms to learn anything about them are the same people making laws about firearms. I love Canada but if this bill passes I will move to the US.
Goddamn, Canada’s becoming very authoritarian. Hate to see it. Much love to you and all other Canadian airsofters from a US airsofter, I’ve always loved your videos and I hope your government comes to its senses.
Thank you for using the correct word for this BS. So many of my American friends have been telling me that this "socialism" is bad, and I've had to explain the difference between socialism and authoritarianism. And yes, this authoritarian nonsense is seriously making me consider leaving my home that I love very much. I should not be a criminal simply for wanting to understand the operating principle behind an "auto-seer." But in a couple of months that exact google search, should I forget to turn on my no-log VPN service, could actually land me a court date. WTF right?
"Becoming", lol. You people just can't see it. Never give them any control. You give up standard capacity magazine, and the next thing, they are putting "anti-vaxxers" into "deletion camps". The world was lost decades ago. The only thing that changed, was that we're at the end game, now. This is the part where 6 billion people become slaves for the rest of their natural lives. It's not a "conspiracy theory" when they're actually doing everything us "gun nuts" predicted for the last 10 years. It is happening. You will own nothing and you will be very very "happy" about it.
@@jcrackification Socialism is complicated. Let's just talk about healthcare. Problem: companies don't have people's interest at heart and jack up prices. Proposed solution: the government which wastes 50 cents per tax dollar and has every incentive to exceed annual budget so as to get more funding... Gets to take over it. So, you're all wrong. Neither the private, nor public sector are going to be able to make an efficient, effective healthcare system. Humans are a lot less smart than the propaganda tries to let on. There is no solution because we are the problem.
6:11 this right here is exactly why you are in the situation you are in, the people you "don't like" absolutely WILL NOT make concessions/compromises with you they expect you to be the ones always compromising and they will just keep taking that's how governments work until they have full control. you can never make concessions with governments and you need to fight back always because the people you are fighting don't play fair.
100%. It's always "one more law" and then everything will be fixed. Too bad they have already said that about 100 times, and nothing has changed. Criminals don't listen to laws, or else they wouldn't kill people
I am a Airsofter and a firearm owner, this bill is going to completely destroy both of my hobbies. Canadain Airsofter and firearm owner should stick together. This is the only way to defeat this bill
@@dunkingaround yes they are not the same thing but share the similarity that liberal doesn’t like. And also targeted by the government at the same time in the same bill. If lawful gun owners and Airsofter still thinking about separating each other we will never going to win
@@dunkingaround I didn’t said they are the same thing in the first place. If the liberals want to target us, there is a political problem. Because they want to blame every gang related crimes to legal firearm owners and Airsofters which are the easy target for them.
as a person who has their firearms license these laws are absurd and need to be stopped on so many levels. you are right in saying that we need to address the problem at the border and smuggling of firearms from the US to Canadians who dont not use them for legal recreational use or hunting. none of our mass shooting come from licensed firearm owners.
We had a banning scare in the UK about 8 years ago or so and luckily it didn't pass. So I totally feel your anguish. Fingers crossed for you guys across the sea that they don't pass this stupid law!
It ready doesn't matter for me, the scare of this bill c21 as well as canadas shit economy is causing my local field to close. Well it was a fun hobby while it lasted but in not going to be able to play anymore.
you lose rights when you concede ground. Just as you said, "5 round mags, not a big deal". It never stops there, they take away these things in chunks. Never concede. If your not committing crimes, there should be no limit in how you enjoy your hobbies or how you prepare for self defense scenarios. Enjoy your legal five round mags when a criminal comes at you with a 30 rounder giving no shits.
THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT THE TRUTH! Mr. "its not a big deal" thinks it's reasonable to only have a 5 round mag. I understand that, before giving his two cents, he says it's a "personal opinion". What he SHOULD understand is that we, the people, should not and can not give any room for those political scum to dictate our rights. You go down the "it's not a big deal, it's reasonable" road, the only thing you are going to get is everything taken away from you at a certain point. Stand your ground and don't budge an inch!
Limiting magazine capacity to 5 rounds does nothing. You can just in pin the mag or make your own. Hun laws do nothing to the ones who don’t follow them
If you think the 5 rounds mags limit is reasonable than you'll deserve everything that will happen to you. You don't seem to learn from what is happening at all, I would bet if they would have banned guns and not airsofts you would not even raise the pinky finger until they would come for you later on. They want to ban everything, engrave that in your brain, bans like mag limits, certain firearms by names. suppressors and barrel lengths are only the beginning before all out bans like the one right now, we need to hold our ground like they do in the US regarding their Second Amendment, any firearm bans are not reasonable in any shapes. Before the big gun ban in Canada in the 70s you could get full auto AKs and M16s, did people massacre each other in the streets? NO! So why would it be any different now? Criminals will always do their deeds no matter the laws in place, we should as law-abiding citizens have the tools to deal with them equally.
Very true but don’t try and shame the uniformed person they’ll never change if you do that but if you find common ground like supporting airsofters and airsofters supporting firearm owners
the only problem i have with firearm control laws is that the very organization writing, implementing and enforcing those laws are (of course!) exempt from the law. If they want to make that law include governmental personnel and contractors, that would be one thing. If the average person doesn't deserve the right to own a magazine over 5 rounds to defend their life, family, and property, then neither should the government.
Well see, we here in Canada already don't have a right to defend. We have a duty to retreat. No castle doctrine here. If you "assault" a home invader with unknown equipment or intent, you can be sued, and tried. You're allowed equal force if and only if you're cornered. Make sure you teach your kids that so they don't end up in the big house if some creeper gets inside the house.
@@nvirevolution2235 I did a quick google search and, I'm wrong. It was an olde english law. These days I think we're bound by law C-26 which doesn't explicitly say retreat is required. it's still up to a jury to determine if force use is justified. But afaik as long as you're not the aggressor, force less than lethal would likely be defendable now.
and here in lies the problem, a lot of airsofters aren't firearms owners and really don't care what happens to firearms outside of their toy guns. It's a nice divide that's going to kill cooperation between gun owners and airsofters. It's the same kind of divide between fudds and guys that wanna shoot modern stuff in the gun community. It's either all or none, don't give any concession to those that wanna ban guns (real or toy), because they'll just come back 5-10 years down the line demanding more. If you keep giving them what they want, eventually you're left with nothing. "I don't need more than 5 rounds" quickly goes to "Well why do you need more than a single shot rifle?". I've seen it happen in the 10 or so years I've been a firearms owner and an airsofter.
@@Milsurp-Gremlin I mean... would you care if they pass a new law about archeology in canada? Most don't care about real guns because they don't and won't own a real one.
@@Milsurp-Gremlin Its ironic since the sole reason of this hobby existing in the first place was gun control laws in japan turning collectors into innovators. Like how can they not wrap their head around that politicians do not give a shit and only want to ban everything that resembles a gun. Airsoft is based around guns and whatever comes with it, if guns are gone so is airsoft.
As an American firearm lover who played airsoft as a kid growing up, and a fellow RuneScape lover, I sincerely want to wish you the best of luck my friend from the north. I also wanted to give some insight to your predicament as someone who has a relatively new love for the 2nd Amendment. THIS, my fine feathered friend from the north, is why people hold the 2A so near and dear. THIS is why people get upset about magazine limits, bans, registries, and any other infringement on all of our rights to defend ourselves and wherever we call home. As soon as you give into ANY sort of desire to control these things, it starts a landslide the ends up with what you are looking at right now in the country you call home. As soon as the people that wield the power hear the citizens say "Oh, it's okay. It's not a big deal. I can live with that." as a response to ANY sort of law or rule that may seem otherwise harmless (like how some people see magazine limits), they take that as a go-ahead to keep chipping away, little by little, year by year, "small/not a big deal" rule by rule until you find yourselves in this exact predicament. Your government wants to ban a literal TOY because it resembles a real life firearm. It's not for safety, you said this yourself. You must then ask why they want this law in place to begin with. Unfortunately, I think the only reasonably conclusions to this inquiry all have strictly negative repercussions. Of which brings me back to the parallel I was trying to draw earlier regarding firearm restrictions that infringe on the 2A. When people that seek to do harm or commit crimes with firearms (or any other tool like a car for that matter, see: Ireland), they have no regard for any law. They acquire the firearms illegally, whether it be from mass importing via a black market, stealing them, making them themselves, or by whatever other means you can think of. Limiting magazine sizes for those that would abide by the law does nothing for their own safety. Banning AR-15s in the US when there are more of them than people does nothing for their safety. It does the opposite, it makes it harder for law abiding citizens to defend themselves against evil people that don't care about the laws in the first place. For example, if you tried to defend your home/loved ones from a home invasion and there was more than one person breaking in hell bent on doing you harm, I'm SURE you would not want to reload a 5 round magazine every time you had to. Again you have to ask, is that law for my safety? If not, why do they want it in place? Id like to digress before I stray too far of the beaten path, but on that note I want to say Im rooting for you all in the north. This is a crazy thing to have to deal with and you all need to fight like hell because you are right, the people making these laws have no idea what they are talking about. Just like our ever quotable elected president, and the idiotic people behind him that believe the "AR" in AR-15 stands for "Assault Rifle". We live in wild times, good luck up there my friend.
It was really disheartening to hear him agree with such measures as a 5 round magazine limit, I hope your comment gives everyone some good insight on our thought process!
I had to stop watching his video when he started saying he was fine with 5round limits on mags, and that it was “reasonable”. It became crystal clear to me in that moment why he is in the position he is in. Incredibly disappointing.
The fact the anti gun nuts need to keep bringing the same shooting that happened over 30 years ago speaks for itself we don't have a gun issue. Gun control has always been a scape goat here.
I'd like to point out that the same MPs fighting for airsoft are also fighting for firearms as well; please don't forget that when they're still arbitrarily trying to mess with legal gun owners after your sport is saved. Also, don't get complacent and think they won't or can't revisit this. Once upon a time hunters thought their bolt actions and shotguns were safe; yet here we are.
The idea of "I'm ok with only having 5 rounds" is why you're now making this video of toy guns could be banned. You give an inch, they take a mile. It will never stop as long as ppl say "I'm ok with that compromise". That's why us Americans are annoyingly steadfast on our 2A
Absolutely spot on! I would be more welcoming of Canadians fleeing the tyranny of the Trudeau regime but I fear that unless this is finally beating some sense into their brain housing group, they would bring along their “5-round magazine limits is fine” compromising beliefs with them.
THIS. We have to be steadfast, otherwise we allow antiquated bureaucrats to implement regulations that just do not even work. My sympathies go out to the Canadian gun owners and airsofters, this should be your incentive to start lobbying and being activists to restore your ability to use these items and to prevent this stupidity from happening again.
@@Azrakoth1 Love that you say "antiquated bureaucrats" are implementing new laws, as though the laws allowing actual firearm ownership (especially in the USA) aren't themselves massively antiquated laws written by antiquated bureaucrats in 1791 about antiquated much-less dangerous weapons like muskets compared to modern firearms 🤣 By all means own guns if common consensus desires it! But your argument here was massively flawed.
Remember when us pro-2A Americans were dismissed and laughed at when we said gun bans won't stop at "assault weapons" and they'll eventually come for everything? Look who's laughing now.
I mean considering that Canada deals with a fraction of the mass shootings that the US does, proportional to their population, these measures that seem redundant clearly work.
@@yourwiiddealer4388 The argument is more so "why should I only be limited to 5 rounds when criminals can get whatever they want." It doesn't make too much sense in canada where you're legally not allowed to defend yourself with a firearm to begin with. Also people always mention how the US has so much gun crime but you hardly ever hear about just how much crime is actually stopped/outright prevented by firearms. The US also uniquely has many times the amount of legally owned firearms than any other country, so even if there was a ban, all it would do is make millions of good law abiding citizens felons and defenceless over night.
@lycanfox criminals who illegally obtain their guns use them against other criminals. It's not gang bangers slaughtering children in schools. Anyway, we put guns in schools in the form of police officers. Clearly, that doesn't work.
As a Canadian, I believe you folks are being pushed into a civil war so they can take yours too. Don't ever let your guard down around the Democrats. They are as slippery as they come.
@WaywardAirsoft That doesn't mean that there isn't a happy medium, the c-21 bill is absolutely ridiculous and way too extreme it will not help to combat gun violence whatsoever.
If the ban gets thrown out now it will be back, the intent isn't really that they think airsoft is dangerous, it's because it can bring people into the hobby of owning real guns. The end goal of all firearms laws is not to withhold guns from criminals, it's about killing firearm culture. You're simply down stream of real firearms and therefore a target, and will always be a target of anti-gun politicians. As much as you don't want to admit it standing up for real firearms owners is every bit as important to keeping airsoft as is standing up for airsoft.
5 round magazines in a real gun? Jesus man here i am in Italy where people thinks our gun laws are strict, sitting with a 29 round magazines for ars :D
In verità il limite di 29 colpi (limite posto dal banco prova) è caduto un anno fa, ora trovate schede sportive anche da 33 colpi. Per il momento le nostre leggi sulle armi non fanno schifo affatto, ma potrebbero essere meglio.
As someone who actually immigrated from Canada to the US when I was younger, it's a hell of a process and took us 10 years to become naturalized citizens and a fuckload of money, which we were lucky enough to have my dad's career pay for a lot of it. If the shit you say about all of the jail time actually happens, I really feel like you don't have much of a choice but moving :(
restricting your mags to 5 rounds. means when a criminal turns up at your home with a weapon magazine of over 5 rounds you are suddenly at a disadvantage.... CRIMINALS WILL NOT FOLLOW YOUR LAWS !!!!
How often does this scenario actually happen? If you're worried about criminals armed to the teeth breaking into your home, you're probably a criminal yourself. And if you aren't, then you have nothing to worry about because home invasions rarely happen, and a fraction of them actually involve firearms. And most home invasions that occur, the residents are rarely home.
@@yourwiiddealer4388 Well these canadians better hope they don't miss any shots when a grizzly bear attacks them. Trained police officers in the united states only hit their targets on average 30% of the shots they fire, around 20% when they fear for their own life during the encounter. (suspect returning fire) Even if we factor in the larger size of a dangerous animal a civilian in canada will be lucky to land one of their 5 shots and hope that saves them. If you know anything about bear attacks you don't like those odds. When I'm hiking I get to carry a 10mm Glock with 15 rounds or a .308 battle rifle with 20 if I feel like it. It's nice to live in a free country.
@morgatron4639 how often do you need to fight a grizzly bear? Do you have any idea how rare bear attacks are in Canada? There's rarely more then one per year. A dog is more like to kill you then a bear.
@@jacp5628 Police officers in the states get into shootouts more often than anywhere else, theoretically they should be more used to it or at least more prepared for those encounters. The fact that they still miss so often in life threatening scenarios is the reason why magazine size is so important especially for people without combat experience, magazine size restrictions are always more harmful to law abiding normal people than to criminals.
This is why we don't accept magazine restrictions, because it's not about being safe. It never has been, it's never been about the gun, always the control.
Honestly I think any restrictions on firearms is dumb as long as the person is mentally fit and doesn’t have crimes on record like stabbing/shooting/beating someone (not in self defense) and stuff like that.
The comparatively small bans on guns that happen in the us always make me angry and feel helpless like I'm slowly loosing something that is not only a right but something I enjoy and is one of my biggest hobbies so I can only imagine how you feel completely loosing that and possibly your way of life
Regarding the 3D printing law, would it make sense to attach the file to an email and send it to all of the official people explaining to them that they are now criminals for having received an email? I feel like that should make someone take a second look at that part of the law.
TBH he can stay in Canada we don't want him here. He is the kind of person that will vote for the same kind of people that pushed gun control up there and when they inevitably go after airsoft guns here in 10 years he will be crying again. Anyone that says 5 round magazines are "reasonable" can keep the hell out of my country.
@craig varrone I don't, if permitted by law to have no mag limit I would have one. But I do feel like going to jail for that to prove no point. But if I could get down south to a good state, I'd be in support of that bill of rights and everything. So pls help a man out. I begging you 🙏 pwea
The UK came close to losing Airsoft and there ended up being a pretty workable compromise where all Airsoft have to be by default 50% brightly colored, but by proving you are exempted (to be in theatre/movie production company, Airsoft skirmish site and more), you can then own realistic replicas. The whole thing is also not a licensing deal, but the restriction is on the retailer instead of individual, so the retailers have to agree to how to verify what a skirmisher is and if the buyer can prove it etc
@@aaron4820 no, it's take the toy gun after you can manage to get past the real one. Unfortunately canadians are too stupid to actually fight for what they love, so that'll never happen.
"Only using the boom boom five times" is all fun and games until you're dealing with an attacker who's high on bath salts and can't feel you shooting him 😳
As a gun owner of Canada there's worse things to lose than airsoft losing all our guns would be worse cause then there'd be no way we could stop a tyrannical government
Man this sucks to see this happen to you and the Canadian airsoft community, I wish we could help over here in the UK but I just don't know how man :( stay strong man
@@Simisdim Np!! We need all the help we can get, so please please *please* take the time out of your day to write out to somebody, every ounce of help counts 🤙
As an American I can tell you that the reason why allowing these “reasonable” laws is an issue because they will always come for more and it’s happening in front of your face and you can’t see it. They say “well only five rounds” and now they’re coming for your Airsoft guns. That’s why MOST gun control is inefficient. Same thing happened in CA, they started with a week wait before a obtaining your firearm, then 30 round magazines lowering them to 25 and then 15 and then 10 and then they went after detachable magazines and then after pistol grips and now they’re after normal telescoping and foldable stocks, and now after foregrips, and now there’s a list of “approved” handgun. The people who thought (like yourself) the first laws were reasonable are the same people that are getting fucked by these laws, that’s the thing with politicians, you give them an inch and they take a mile; that’s why it’s important to always fight gun control, I may sound tinfoil hat man but it’s happening in Canada. Seriously this video is proof of how far and unreasonable they’re willing to be. All because they (the citizens) allowed their country to pass “reasonable” gun control and now this is happening.
Basically, the only airsoft guns allowed would be super short sawed-offs and certain grenade launchers. Definitely would be interesting for a custom game mode.
Actually that is not accurate here in Canada. Both sawed of or short barreled shotguns are already prohibited weapons, In fact, if say a manufacturer makes a model of firearm from the factory that has an 18 1/2 inch barrel, and you want one so you saw your 30 inch barrel OF THE SAME GUN down, you have "altered the original firearm and are therefor breaking the law by making it a "sawed off" shotgun. Don't think about it too hard....this is Canada....home of the stupid politician. As for the grenade launcher....even his plastic version breaks the new law as part of bill C-21 in that ALL firearms, or facsimiles, or "weapons" having a bore of more than 20mm are Prohibited hence illegal. They already had to make an amendment to this bill when the firearms community pointed out that all 12 gauge shotguns with an interchangeable choke and the choke tube removed....as well as all 10 gauge shotguns used for bird hunting...meet the criteria as originally written. yes...we are doomed.
I don't know how they did it, but the current Lib government somehow showcased that they are even more stupid than the original C-21 drafting. The fact that they're willing to criminalize BB gat owners is downright unbelievable. This new tabled amendment is genuinely disappointing. There's at least genuinely more good news than what was shown in the video. Not only are the conservative party against this Bill, but every other political party is also against it. Both the Bloc and the NDP are now against basically all the airsoft and new amendments made to the Bill. With that, there's at least a chance the Bill won't go through with how it is current. Plus, the Libs somehow also pissed of the Assembly of First Nations, which is a HUGE public player and influence towards Liberal lawmakers.
Going to assume "don't know how they did it" was sarcasm. When the human with the least amount of brain cells is in charge of a country, you end up with the dumbest laws.
@@billybishop4915 they didnt think anyone would notice, G4 made people notice, and then that hockey player posting about it REALLY made people notice. Lets hope we can kill c21 with this. and then if the government wants to pass actual laws that do more to stop smuggling at the border and deal with gangs ill support them on it. Remember, no concessions, no "okay thats a reasonable limit" because they will come back to take more. no pistols, no ARs, potentially soon to be no Semi autos. and then next will be no pumps no scopes no bolts no semi auto .22s.
This law has so much stupidity in it and would afflict so many citizens if it went into effect that I doubt it would be taken seriously. Like honestly, if you went to jail for having airsoft guns, and making airsoft videos, there should be public outcry. Dont think you have to worry.
thats not how the real world works though, you don't get to say no because they already took that right away. speaking out against an airsoft arrest could legally be canadian treason, they amended free speech a few years ago and said it wasn't coming back the way it was before if ever
@@typer2909 I simply meant that if it affects enough people negatively (in an extreme way), they'll come to realize how poorly executed or awful the law itself was anyways.
@@avazquez01 You mean like weed? Do you realise how many people in the world still get prosecuted over this plant?! And Im saying this whilst not being a huge advocate of weed, tho I am an advocate of freedom. In Israel, which is my homecountry, we've straight up heard from politicians that they don't care to hurt 2000-5000 Airsoft players over the supposed safety of the people(their claim is that Airsoft is widely used to commit crime and convert them to real steel firearms and they don't want to make a licensing process because that would be a lot of work for them) They don't give a shit how many of us go to jail because in their eyes, if you value your hobbie this much then it means you're a criminal... that's just logic.
@@DaveOganesyan So first, the "war on drugs" is deeply ingrained in society so its much harder to uproot these outdated methods. Back when it was implemented in the 1970's when it started to take off, everyone thought it was a good idea and fear-mongering allowed it to take a strong hold. A strong majority think that the airsoft ban is a bad idea right from the start. So kinda hard to compare the two. Second, even today where there's a lot of strong opposition, you don't really see riots or super strong outcry. If someone goes to jail over weed, people will be very upset but it's common. If a youtuber goes to jail over a brand new airsoft ban, guarantee you its gonna be a major deal. Especially when not everyone is on board with this sudden change. As for Israel, I cant really speak for yall. Yall got a bunch of shit going on over there and often times have to juggle between safety and freedom more than the rest of us (even here in America) since you guys are neighbors with another country that yall end up in armed conflict every 2 seconds. I still think its wrong yall have people going to jail over a hobby but honestly cant say Im surprised yall have some strict laws like that over there. TLDR; weed and airsoft are like apples to oranges, and Israel and Canada have different demographics in terms of beliefs. They'll likely react differently to the same issues. I'll still like your comment cause some fair points/arguments there.
Bro i'm so scared now, in Australia, malaysia, singapore, and papua new guinea airsoft is banned (basically countries that surrounds indonesia) meanwhile in my country (indonesia) so far there's no rule about airsoft it's completely legal but i worry some new law would pop up and make it illegal and i have to throw my airsoft and replicas away. Even if i secretly keep them anyway my religious step dad would get really mad like when i first got airsoft he was *EXTREAMELY* mad because in his eyes airsoft is the same thing as a real firearm and he tought you need a gun license to own airsoft, now he's chill about it and once asked me to recommend him a cheap airsoft pistol 😂
@@thatoneperson6969 yeah he was also mad about that too, but he was mainly worried about me getting one since he thought he'll get in trouble because his brother is a cop 😂 And in my defense it's a hobby, he owns 3 motorcycles and i told him it's unnecessary but he said it's a hobby
@@Tsirkon Lol the cop mostly doesn't care especially if you carrying an airsoft rifle type because the police know that wasnt real, but the real tricky is the airsoft pistol those could be real since a lot of criminal use handmade one but rifle, they already know its a toy
Nope it won't happen we have way to many communities about airsoft and hunters that it won't get passed this is a bill or something that a person in Parliament came up with and they need to get enough votes for it to pass and stupid bills like this never make it cause thankfully we have some smart representatives in Parliament
This is exactly what happens when your “fine with only 5 round mags” When you give an inch they take a mile. Your compliance just got your rights taken away, then again it’s Canada so let’s not act like you had many rights to begin with. But now you see how firearm owners feel. Hope you take a good look at your situation and realize compliance isn’t an option
See you say the 5 round magazine law makes sense. That has what has let the current proposals through. They proved that people are willing to give up on something like ammo capacity, than they can go for caliber, or look. People said oh it’s no big deal we can make concessions so now that they took an inch, they know they can take a mile.
As us Americans say, it's not about guns, it's about control. Not control of criminals, control of people. This law is very dumb. Best of luck to you on not getting it passed.
We should all have been united back in may 2021 but we where out numbered but now we can all rise awareness and get this laws thrown like a communist he is
Damn boys, we havent had any mass shootings over here in germany, yet we can: -Own pistols, rifles, shotguns ect -Own 10 round mags, AND own a magazine of ANY size by using one of your "slots" on your gun licence, of which you have 10 (aka any mag is easily obtainable) -No caliber restrictions -Own muskets, older revolvers and flintlocks without any licence, and carry them openly -Conceal carry (though its a bit harder to do, its possible) Again, no mass shootings here.... Banning mags doesnt solve sh*t, as theyre easily 3d printable, or just go buy them illegaly, people do that RN anyways (Ban drugs= no drug use am i right?!) Mass shootings arent committed by legal owners most of the time... I feel very fu*king sorry for all of you folks over there man, really...
Yeah the part where you enthusiastically said "you have to make concessions right!". That is exactly what will lose you your rights. No, you make no concessions at all. What are you getting in return for your "concession"? Nothing. Do not allow people who know NOTHING about this hobby or firearm equipment in general, to dictate your life.
I read the comments suggesting Canadians move to America and I’m not against accepting refugees like this. But, if you’re in favor of banning real guns and are alright with 5-round magazine compromises, we’d really just as soon you stayed there and sleep in the bed you’ve made for yourselves.
@@HouseGamers Frankly I think it was the way you described it. The actual law is all center-fire cartridges have a max magazine capacity of 5 rounds. Rim fire is pretty much unlimited until c-21 passes
Too many people throw around the word fascism until it doesn't even mean anything. The problem is, it does mean something, and Canada is very quickly becoming a fascist country. Read the definition, look up fascism within history and show me exactly what the differences are between modern day Canada and Germany pre-WWII. If you read something and think, "oh, well that hasn't happened", that is just your marker on the timeline of repeating events.
Thinking that the limiting of your rifles to 5rds is ok it exactly how you guys got in this mess. "Common Sense gun laws" are never about common sense it's about control eventually they'll reduce it further if not take them all together like they are with pistols. As an American it's not my place to say how your government should be run or what your rights are I'm just trying to precaution people's way of thinking that it's okay to just give up rights under the guise of the "greater good" or "saving lives"
Bro I never have understood the point of limiting magazine capacity, like bruh you know I can hold more than one mag on my person right? hell with single stack AR mags it’s even easier to reload fast because of the taper on some of them
I stopped airsofting quite some time ago here in Europe...but seeing this happening in the world makes me just sad. It will reach Europe too for sure. I wish you luck over there tho ♥
The airsoft community are very much the next threshold of REAL gun owners. Please push back on ALL tyrannical laws not just ones that apply to airsoft.
This situation really sucks, but really??!!! You already lost when you agreed on a 5 round mag limit. When you agree with restrictions, it is only a matter of time until they push for more, and they always do. It is never enough for them until there is nothing left.
Welcome to the fight AGAIN, even if you're not a licensed firearms owner here in Canada and your thing is only airsoft, I have owned and played airsoft and also think the ban is stupid, but as I was saying, feel free to also mention hunters and sport shooters, we were all at one point owners of pellet/BB guns or airsoft, we need all the help we can get, because one day you as well may want to become part of the law abiding licensed firearms owner community, it's also a property rights thing. Thank you, we need to keep pushing on all sides to get these Libs to stop attacking folks who just want to practice their hobby and sport in peace!
as a canadian citizen who loves my country. I vehemently hate the idiocy in our government over the last few years for so many different issues. I hate what our amazing country is becoming and I especially hate the potential banning of a sport I love to watch and one day hope to get into because I never had the chance while I was younger. these laws are absurd to the Nth degree and I hate, strongly, the people who can't think rationally enough to just look at the law and see that it is sheer stupidity. I'll be writing to my MP as soon as I can figure out how to form a rational letter that is clear and concise and professional. I very much hope that canadadian citizens stand with us in this even if they don't play or support airsoft. we need to stand up for what rights we do have and keep them free. my lord what is the world coming to
they wont unfortunately. this is from a real gun angle but we are the only thing defending you guys rn so accept it. Basically we lost the battle when we conceded on self defense not being a legal means for firearms. now liberals and government can just brush aside sports/target shooting as "a hobby for killers" and tell hunters they are barbaric for hunting (even stepping on native rights to do so!!!!). and they are. we need to push back on c21, destroy it and then push on guns being useful for self defense. otherwise this will happen again, assuming c21 falters, which depending on if the spring 2023 election rumors are true then it may die as all laws in writing do during one. if that happens then we have a bit of time but if trudeau wins again he will just rewrite C21 to be even more stupid. Basically vote conservative this upcoming election, pls. they WILL go after airsoft as it can be viewed as a way for people to train for combat without being in the military.
Sounds to me like it's time to get out of Canada before that bill passes. The one good thing about moving to America is that you would have the 2nd amendment protecting your airsoft toys. I really wish you and your fellow Canadians the best. We live in very weird times.
Honestly, no, we don't need more people that are pro gun bans moving here and voting for the same type of people until the same laws are passed here too for them to then move somewhere else and do it again.
Hello from Poland, where if a small kid takes his savings and goes on his own to buy an airsoft AKM or M4 to play with nobody thinks twice about it. That's normal. This includes full-auto ones obviously, but then his parents might have a word with him when BBs will be just everywhere.
We in the UK had to fight against the 2008 VCRA 'violent crime reduction act' which was posed to ban airsoft here. We did fight back, the compromise we all came to was what the UKARA players exemption resolution provided. Essentially we need to be a member of a club to buy realistic (black/tan/brown/OD) guns off the shelf. If we are not we can still purchase them but finished in "unrealistic colours" - usually bright luminescent greens, oranges and blues. It was an annoying compromise at the time.. but hey, we're still here and we still get to play our sport. I wonder if you guys in Canada are heading in the same direction.
Come down to Colorado! We have airsoft fields, great weather all 4 seasons, everyone spoils you with hospitality, and we're the most active people in the U.S. We also have the best mountains, but hopefully you can fight this battle from home. Good luck!
We're praying for you guys up there from the states. And hey, if you need covering fire while you escape to the US then call the boys up. We'll be there
I hope our northern brothers and sisters keep fighting for their rights and the sport I love so much. Bills like that don't just stop there. The government will keep seeing how much they can get away with under the guise of "the will of the people".
I don't get how most polititions are soooooo dumb, like god damn, they should at least do some sort of research on a topic they are baning. The fact that they don't see that criminals have the acces to guns even tho guns are getting baned is insane. They are criminals for a reason and doesn't care a single bit about laws, INCLUDING GUN LAWS ://
The primary goal of the airsoft community is to seperate themself from the firearm owners. Wich is fair since it's toyguns and the majority of player don't and won't own a real firearm in their life. The airsoft federation is working their asses to have their own legislation. Firearm owner have all the right to be angry and fight against c-21, but don't include people who don't and won't own a real weapon in it.
@@Silly_Snake45 this is the problem though if airsofters or gun owners give them an inch in a few years they’ll take a mile the it doesn’t affect me directly YET so I don’t care is so lazy and stupid please don’t be like this.
@@TraviNomotion that’s the thing, airsoft are not firearms. They are toyguns and should be concidered as such. Making them part of the firearm ban is utterly stupid. That said, the airsoft fédération is working their asses to have their own legislation and law over airsoft by separating them from firearms.
@@Silly_Snake45 yes that is true they are not firearms and shouldn’t be considered as such but they’re attacking both of us so going ehh doesn’t affect me yet makes the whole situation worse
@@TraviNomotion As it is, no one in the community is going “meh”. That government will pass their bill like they always do and the only chance airsoft has is to separate themselves from it. As powerful as the CCFR can be with all the money that have, they have a hell of a hard time dealing with new bills. One of those bill they pass was illegal and even if the ccfr is winning on that pass bill, the damage as already been done and public opinion is still going from bad to worst. The majority of Canadian don’t care about firearms and they see it as useless and dangerous thing that the population shouldn’t have. Which is partially right. Hunting rifle should not be part of that ban.
If this law goes into effect than there's only one way to keep all your airsoft stuff and that is to get a storage unit here in the USA near an airsoft field
no way, this bill not only affects real firearms but fake ones to???? thats insane. i play airsoft but ive never seen a bill targeting real guns where it affects fake ones too holy crap.
What are you talking about? In my state in the US I can remove/paint over the orange tip of an airsoft gun and walk down the street holding it while it's indistinguishable from a real rifle. The only thing I can't do is aim it at random people or brandish it in a threatening manner while it can be misidentified as a real gun. Are you conflating California laws with American laws?
Good news! The part of the bill that affects airsoft has been removed! We talk about it here
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This fight must go on!
This is just the tip of it
9:10 NOT THE PUMPKINS!
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Yall ain't fighting anything. You're just gonna accept it, and if you don't the next generations will accept it. It's just futile to resist tbh lol.
Indeed
“Give them an inch they will take a mile”
and they sure did take their fuckin mile
6:10 they stay cucked
This is what happens when the people who are too scared of firearms to learn anything about them are the same people making laws about firearms. I love Canada but if this bill passes I will move to the US.
honestly you better go to Texas, Wyoming, Idaho or Alaska. The rest of the country might be fucked over VERY soon.
Well when it happens come on over pretty sure Canada just going to get even more restricted after further down the years.
I’ll welcome you future American... word of warning tho, best to stay away from the northern states they’re anti gun crazy too.
I’ll welcome you future American... word of warning tho, best to stay away from the northern states they’re anti gun crazy too.
I’ll welcome you future American... word of warning tho, best to stay away from the northern states they’re anti gun crazy too.
Goddamn, Canada’s becoming very authoritarian. Hate to see it. Much love to you and all other Canadian airsofters from a US airsofter, I’ve always loved your videos and I hope your government comes to its senses.
Thank you for using the correct word for this BS. So many of my American friends have been telling me that this "socialism" is bad, and I've had to explain the difference between socialism and authoritarianism.
And yes, this authoritarian nonsense is seriously making me consider leaving my home that I love very much. I should not be a criminal simply for wanting to understand the operating principle behind an "auto-seer." But in a couple of months that exact google search, should I forget to turn on my no-log VPN service, could actually land me a court date. WTF right?
@@jcrackification time to run out to the woods my friend.
Becoming? It's always been authoritarian, Canadians are just now finally realizing it.
"Becoming", lol. You people just can't see it. Never give them any control. You give up standard capacity magazine, and the next thing, they are putting "anti-vaxxers" into "deletion camps".
The world was lost decades ago. The only thing that changed, was that we're at the end game, now. This is the part where 6 billion people become slaves for the rest of their natural lives. It's not a "conspiracy theory" when they're actually doing everything us "gun nuts" predicted for the last 10 years. It is happening. You will own nothing and you will be very very "happy" about it.
@@jcrackification
Socialism is complicated. Let's just talk about healthcare.
Problem: companies don't have people's interest at heart and jack up prices.
Proposed solution: the government which wastes 50 cents per tax dollar and has every incentive to exceed annual budget so as to get more funding... Gets to take over it.
So, you're all wrong. Neither the private, nor public sector are going to be able to make an efficient, effective healthcare system. Humans are a lot less smart than the propaganda tries to let on. There is no solution because we are the problem.
6:11 this right here is exactly why you are in the situation you are in, the people you "don't like" absolutely WILL NOT make concessions/compromises with you they expect you to be the ones always compromising and they will just keep taking that's how governments work until they have full control. you can never make concessions with governments and you need to fight back always because the people you are fighting don't play fair.
i mean tbh, this is the country with a leader whos done black face... poor canadians
100%. It's always "one more law" and then everything will be fixed. Too bad they have already said that about 100 times, and nothing has changed. Criminals don't listen to laws, or else they wouldn't kill people
Exactly! I was just calling that part of the video out.
Complete cucks...
@@cmnidit4444 let’s be honest, most world leaders have done their fair share a shitty things, just like everyone else
I am a Airsofter and a firearm owner, this bill is going to completely destroy both of my hobbies. Canadain Airsofter and firearm owner should stick together. This is the only way to defeat this bill
Ehm.....that's not the same thing. But thanks for help if you rlly did go to you're local town hall and complained for Airsoft.
@@dunkingaround yes they are not the same thing but share the similarity that liberal doesn’t like. And also targeted by the government at the same time in the same bill. If lawful gun owners and Airsofter still thinking about separating each other we will never going to win
@@fuyukim5250 that's exactly what I was talking about. It's not the same. There is nothing political in what we do.
@@dunkingaround I didn’t said they are the same thing in the first place. If the liberals want to target us, there is a political problem. Because they want to blame every gang related crimes to legal firearm owners and Airsofters which are the easy target for them.
@@dunkingaround muh rights are being attacked! i dont care about yours!
as a person who has their firearms license these laws are absurd and need to be stopped on so many levels. you are right in saying that we need to address the problem at the border and smuggling of firearms from the US to Canadians who dont not use them for legal recreational use or hunting. none of our mass shooting come from licensed firearm owners.
Firearms are a human right
@@SHADOW-nj3kv no it aint
@@denondebonde who told u that?
This is what everybody needs to hear, they just don't want to listen because banning stuff makes them feel good and look good to the media.
@@SHADOW-nj3kv .....no
We had a banning scare in the UK about 8 years ago or so and luckily it didn't pass. So I totally feel your anguish. Fingers crossed for you guys across the sea that they don't pass this stupid law!
They wanted to drop the fps limit so low that they were practicly lower than nerf guns and therefore unusable
It ready doesn't matter for me, the scare of this bill c21 as well as canadas shit economy is causing my local field to close. Well it was a fun hobby while it lasted but in not going to be able to play anymore.
Hey bud, isn't it already virtually impossible to get a firearm in the UK?
@@franky2shoes660 in regards to airsoft far from it
in regards to real firearms it depends on a lot of things and your selection is very limited
@franky2shoes660 u can get airsoft guns but they cant be all black , you can only illegally get guns unless you have a licences wich is hard to get
you lose rights when you concede ground. Just as you said, "5 round mags, not a big deal". It never stops there, they take away these things in chunks. Never concede. If your not committing crimes, there should be no limit in how you enjoy your hobbies or how you prepare for self defense scenarios.
Enjoy your legal five round mags when a criminal comes at you with a 30 rounder giving no shits.
Precisely that
THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT THE TRUTH!
Mr. "its not a big deal" thinks it's reasonable to only have a 5 round mag. I understand that, before giving his two cents, he says it's a "personal opinion". What he SHOULD understand is that we, the people, should not and can not give any room for those political scum to dictate our rights. You go down the "it's not a big deal, it's reasonable" road, the only thing you are going to get is everything taken away from you at a certain point. Stand your ground and don't budge an inch!
Limiting magazine capacity to 5 rounds does nothing. You can just in pin the mag or make your own. Hun laws do nothing to the ones who don’t follow them
If you think the 5 rounds mags limit is reasonable than you'll deserve everything that will happen to you. You don't seem to learn from what is happening at all, I would bet if they would have banned guns and not airsofts you would not even raise the pinky finger until they would come for you later on.
They want to ban everything, engrave that in your brain, bans like mag limits, certain firearms by names. suppressors and barrel lengths are only the beginning before all out bans like the one right now, we need to hold our ground like they do in the US regarding their Second Amendment, any firearm bans are not reasonable in any shapes.
Before the big gun ban in Canada in the 70s you could get full auto AKs and M16s, did people massacre each other in the streets? NO! So why would it be any different now? Criminals will always do their deeds no matter the laws in place, we should as law-abiding citizens have the tools to deal with them equally.
Couldn’t have said that better man
We dont care. We dont want any guns.
Extremely underrated comment
based
Very true but don’t try and shame the uniformed person they’ll never change if you do that but if you find common ground like supporting airsofters and airsofters supporting firearm owners
the only problem i have with firearm control laws is that the very organization writing, implementing and enforcing those laws are (of course!) exempt from the law. If they want to make that law include governmental personnel and contractors, that would be one thing. If the average person doesn't deserve the right to own a magazine over 5 rounds to defend their life, family, and property, then neither should the government.
you want officers of the law to not have guns...? What about police?
Well see, we here in Canada already don't have a right to defend. We have a duty to retreat. No castle doctrine here. If you "assault" a home invader with unknown equipment or intent, you can be sued, and tried. You're allowed equal force if and only if you're cornered. Make sure you teach your kids that so they don't end up in the big house if some creeper gets inside the house.
@@radethegoblin1771 in most cases waiting for the police to help you isn't a fast enough option.
@@spottedtango If that is actually the case in Canada then that is an utterly ridiculous law
@@nvirevolution2235 I did a quick google search and, I'm wrong. It was an olde english law. These days I think we're bound by law C-26 which doesn't explicitly say retreat is required. it's still up to a jury to determine if force use is justified. But afaik as long as you're not the aggressor, force less than lethal would likely be defendable now.
and here in lies the problem, a lot of airsofters aren't firearms owners and really don't care what happens to firearms outside of their toy guns. It's a nice divide that's going to kill cooperation between gun owners and airsofters. It's the same kind of divide between fudds and guys that wanna shoot modern stuff in the gun community.
It's either all or none, don't give any concession to those that wanna ban guns (real or toy), because they'll just come back 5-10 years down the line demanding more. If you keep giving them what they want, eventually you're left with nothing.
"I don't need more than 5 rounds" quickly goes to "Well why do you need more than a single shot rifle?". I've seen it happen in the 10 or so years I've been a firearms owner and an airsofter.
i know, it was going well till he said he supported the 5 round magazine ruling.
@@pupuchi5842 yeah, and to be honest I havn't met many airsofters my local community that give two craps about real guns either. Shame.
@@Milsurp-Gremlin I mean... would you care if they pass a new law about archeology in canada? Most don't care about real guns because they don't and won't own a real one.
@@Silly_Snake45 I would care because it's unnecessary and entirely government overreach, even if I'm not into archeology.
@@Milsurp-Gremlin Its ironic since the sole reason of this hobby existing in the first place was gun control laws in japan turning collectors into innovators.
Like how can they not wrap their head around that politicians do not give a shit and only want to ban everything that resembles a gun.
Airsoft is based around guns and whatever comes with it, if guns are gone so is airsoft.
As an American firearm lover who played airsoft as a kid growing up, and a fellow RuneScape lover, I sincerely want to wish you the best of luck my friend from the north. I also wanted to give some insight to your predicament as someone who has a relatively new love for the 2nd Amendment. THIS, my fine feathered friend from the north, is why people hold the 2A so near and dear. THIS is why people get upset about magazine limits, bans, registries, and any other infringement on all of our rights to defend ourselves and wherever we call home. As soon as you give into ANY sort of desire to control these things, it starts a landslide the ends up with what you are looking at right now in the country you call home.
As soon as the people that wield the power hear the citizens say "Oh, it's okay. It's not a big deal. I can live with that." as a response to ANY sort of law or rule that may seem otherwise harmless (like how some people see magazine limits), they take that as a go-ahead to keep chipping away, little by little, year by year, "small/not a big deal" rule by rule until you find yourselves in this exact predicament. Your government wants to ban a literal TOY because it resembles a real life firearm. It's not for safety, you said this yourself. You must then ask why they want this law in place to begin with. Unfortunately, I think the only reasonably conclusions to this inquiry all have strictly negative repercussions.
Of which brings me back to the parallel I was trying to draw earlier regarding firearm restrictions that infringe on the 2A. When people that seek to do harm or commit crimes with firearms (or any other tool like a car for that matter, see: Ireland), they have no regard for any law. They acquire the firearms illegally, whether it be from mass importing via a black market, stealing them, making them themselves, or by whatever other means you can think of. Limiting magazine sizes for those that would abide by the law does nothing for their own safety. Banning AR-15s in the US when there are more of them than people does nothing for their safety. It does the opposite, it makes it harder for law abiding citizens to defend themselves against evil people that don't care about the laws in the first place. For example, if you tried to defend your home/loved ones from a home invasion and there was more than one person breaking in hell bent on doing you harm, I'm SURE you would not want to reload a 5 round magazine every time you had to. Again you have to ask, is that law for my safety? If not, why do they want it in place?
Id like to digress before I stray too far of the beaten path, but on that note I want to say Im rooting for you all in the north. This is a crazy thing to have to deal with and you all need to fight like hell because you are right, the people making these laws have no idea what they are talking about. Just like our ever quotable elected president, and the idiotic people behind him that believe the "AR" in AR-15 stands for "Assault Rifle".
We live in wild times, good luck up there my friend.
It was really disheartening to hear him agree with such measures as a 5 round magazine limit, I hope your comment gives everyone some good insight on our thought process!
I had to stop watching his video when he started saying he was fine with 5round limits on mags, and that it was “reasonable”. It became crystal clear to me in that moment why he is in the position he is in. Incredibly disappointing.
Imagine thinking being limited to 5 round magazines is reasonable lol
@bLackstar Exactly. Give an inch, they take a mile
The fact the anti gun nuts need to keep bringing the same shooting that happened over 30 years ago speaks for itself we don't have a gun issue. Gun control has always been a scape goat here.
yea lol canadian gov is weird
@bLackstar Pretty sure he doesn't care about the 5rds because he doesn't own real firearms. The majority are against it.
Literally a smaller round count than most revolvers 🤣 their rifles are basically oversized derringers now
I'd like to point out that the same MPs fighting for airsoft are also fighting for firearms as well; please don't forget that when they're still arbitrarily trying to mess with legal gun owners after your sport is saved.
Also, don't get complacent and think they won't or can't revisit this. Once upon a time hunters thought their bolt actions and shotguns were safe; yet here we are.
The idea of "I'm ok with only having 5 rounds" is why you're now making this video of toy guns could be banned. You give an inch, they take a mile. It will never stop as long as ppl say "I'm ok with that compromise". That's why us Americans are annoyingly steadfast on our 2A
Absolutely spot on! I would be more welcoming of Canadians fleeing the tyranny of the Trudeau regime but I fear that unless this is finally beating some sense into their brain housing group, they would bring along their “5-round magazine limits is fine” compromising beliefs with them.
THIS. We have to be steadfast, otherwise we allow antiquated bureaucrats to implement regulations that just do not even work.
My sympathies go out to the Canadian gun owners and airsofters, this should be your incentive to start lobbying and being activists to restore your ability to use these items and to prevent this stupidity from happening again.
@@Azrakoth1 Love that you say "antiquated bureaucrats" are implementing new laws, as though the laws allowing actual firearm ownership (especially in the USA) aren't themselves massively antiquated laws written by antiquated bureaucrats in 1791 about antiquated much-less dangerous weapons like muskets compared to modern firearms 🤣 By all means own guns if common consensus desires it! But your argument here was massively flawed.
@@GeorgeThoughts Are you okay? Do you need a hug? I wasn't even making an argument.
yeah honestly when he started talking about that and "concessions" i lost most of my sympathy.
Remember when us pro-2A Americans were dismissed and laughed at when we said gun bans won't stop at "assault weapons" and they'll eventually come for everything? Look who's laughing now.
The idea that you’re ok with only a 5 round magazine is the reason why you’re in the place where you’re at
I mean considering that Canada deals with a fraction of the mass shootings that the US does, proportional to their population, these measures that seem redundant clearly work.
@@yourwiiddealer4388 The argument is more so "why should I only be limited to 5 rounds when criminals can get whatever they want." It doesn't make too much sense in canada where you're legally not allowed to defend yourself with a firearm to begin with. Also people always mention how the US has so much gun crime but you hardly ever hear about just how much crime is actually stopped/outright prevented by firearms. The US also uniquely has many times the amount of legally owned firearms than any other country, so even if there was a ban, all it would do is make millions of good law abiding citizens felons and defenceless over night.
@lycanfox criminals who illegally obtain their guns use them against other criminals. It's not gang bangers slaughtering children in schools. Anyway, we put guns in schools in the form of police officers. Clearly, that doesn't work.
@@yourwiiddealer4388 that sounds more like a correlation vs causation
Well said Saldana787
This is why I live in America but you guys keep fighting and hope this does not pass
As a Canadian, I believe you folks are being pushed into a civil war so they can take yours too. Don't ever let your guard down around the Democrats. They are as slippery as they come.
Yeah I’d be much happier having to worry about my kid going to school, because hey at least i have my guns.
@@Frank_D14 it’s an airsoft gun. It’s not a real gun
@WaywardAirsoft That doesn't mean that there isn't a happy medium, the c-21 bill is absolutely ridiculous and way too extreme it will not help to combat gun violence whatsoever.
@WaywardAirsoft hence the happy medium lol, the bill c-21 will not help to resolve gun crime whatsoever. So tell me what's the point of this bill?
I feel very sorry for you Canadians. Hang tight!!!
Were used to being bullied by gov. Nothing will change. Never does.
A guide for writing to your MP: www.savingairsoft.ca/post/writing-your-member-of-parliament-guide-to-the-personal-letter
i would talk to Runkle of the Baily a Canadian firearms lawyer on RUclips. he may have some ideas on what to expect.
Actually you are technically fine with the 40 mike mike as it only travels 100 m/s if I am understanding it correctly.
@@riserevelation8471 they wouls just say some bullshit about incendiary devices and replicas or whatever. I would still run this stuff past ian
Hey, America will gladly take you. Because it seems like Canada isn't going to work out in the near future.
Airsoft question.
What are those really short mags you demonstrated with?
This man should be made to play with only 5 BBs per mag
Unironically yes, I don't know how he can be ignorant enough to think a limit of 5 shots is okay.
@@morgatron4639 his thinking is why Canada got cucked like they did
If the ban gets thrown out now it will be back, the intent isn't really that they think airsoft is dangerous, it's because it can bring people into the hobby of owning real guns. The end goal of all firearms laws is not to withhold guns from criminals, it's about killing firearm culture. You're simply down stream of real firearms and therefore a target, and will always be a target of anti-gun politicians. As much as you don't want to admit it standing up for real firearms owners is every bit as important to keeping airsoft as is standing up for airsoft.
I've always considered airsoft to be a gateway drug to real firearms, once you start making enough money the real deal gets tempting.
5 round magazines in a real gun? Jesus man here i am in Italy where people thinks our gun laws are strict, sitting with a 29 round magazines for ars :D
solo per glI AR? Mi sembra di aver visto anche qui AK con solo caricatori da 5
@@AlenP996 si basta essere iscritto ad una asd di tiro e puoi possedere caricatori da 29 per tutte le armi lunghe.
In verità il limite di 29 colpi (limite posto dal banco prova) è caduto un anno fa, ora trovate schede sportive anche da 33 colpi.
Per il momento le nostre leggi sulle armi non fanno schifo affatto, ma potrebbero essere meglio.
@@AlenP996 quelli che hai visto erano ak demilitarizzati, e le armi demilitarizzati possono avere max 5 colpi (10 dopo il 2018).
@@gastone2168 ah non sapevo. Meglio, toglo subito gli spessori dai caricatori
As someone who actually immigrated from Canada to the US when I was younger, it's a hell of a process and took us 10 years to become naturalized citizens and a fuckload of money, which we were lucky enough to have my dad's career pay for a lot of it. If the shit you say about all of the jail time actually happens, I really feel like you don't have much of a choice but moving :(
Most of us will never move. Canadian passport is very weak.
restricting your mags to 5 rounds. means when a criminal turns up at your home with a weapon magazine of over 5 rounds you are suddenly at a disadvantage.... CRIMINALS WILL NOT FOLLOW YOUR LAWS !!!!
How often does this scenario actually happen? If you're worried about criminals armed to the teeth breaking into your home, you're probably a criminal yourself. And if you aren't, then you have nothing to worry about because home invasions rarely happen, and a fraction of them actually involve firearms. And most home invasions that occur, the residents are rarely home.
@@yourwiiddealer4388 Well these canadians better hope they don't miss any shots when a grizzly bear attacks them. Trained police officers in the united states only hit their targets on average 30% of the shots they fire, around 20% when they fear for their own life during the encounter. (suspect returning fire) Even if we factor in the larger size of a dangerous animal a civilian in canada will be lucky to land one of their 5 shots and hope that saves them. If you know anything about bear attacks you don't like those odds. When I'm hiking I get to carry a 10mm Glock with 15 rounds or a .308 battle rifle with 20 if I feel like it. It's nice to live in a free country.
@morgatron4639 how often do you need to fight a grizzly bear? Do you have any idea how rare bear attacks are in Canada? There's rarely more then one per year. A dog is more like to kill you then a bear.
@@morgatron4639 "trained police officers in the United States" is such an oxymoron lmfao
@@jacp5628 Police officers in the states get into shootouts more often than anywhere else, theoretically they should be more used to it or at least more prepared for those encounters. The fact that they still miss so often in life threatening scenarios is the reason why magazine size is so important especially for people without combat experience, magazine size restrictions are always more harmful to law abiding normal people than to criminals.
This is why we don't accept magazine restrictions, because it's not about being safe. It never has been, it's never been about the gun, always the control.
Exactly
@BrandonHerrera Needs to take a look at this video for his next Gun Meme Review!
Facts
Honestly I think any restrictions on firearms is dumb as long as the person is mentally fit and doesn’t have crimes on record like stabbing/shooting/beating someone (not in self defense) and stuff like that.
Guess you're gonna be running from the law. I always guessed it would end like this
Canadians have zero freedom. It is written into their “bill of rights” that they have no definite rights IE you don’t actually have rights lmao.
The comparatively small bans on guns that happen in the us always make me angry and feel helpless like I'm slowly loosing something that is not only a right but something I enjoy and is one of my biggest hobbies so I can only imagine how you feel completely loosing that and possibly your way of life
and then the government wonders why theres a handfull of people who are ready to go down guns blazing.
Regarding the 3D printing law, would it make sense to attach the file to an email and send it to all of the official people explaining to them that they are now criminals for having received an email? I feel like that should make someone take a second look at that part of the law.
Thats a great idea! 😂🙌🏼
Other Canadian youtubers are moving to the US. For your safety I really suggest you do too
If only that was achievable for the average Canadian.
@@Tylersel sammme bro. how do these youtubers do it? how can I?
TBH he can stay in Canada we don't want him here. He is the kind of person that will vote for the same kind of people that pushed gun control up there and when they inevitably go after airsoft guns here in 10 years he will be crying again. Anyone that says 5 round magazines are "reasonable" can keep the hell out of my country.
@craig varrone I don't, if permitted by law to have no mag limit I would have one. But I do feel like going to jail for that to prove no point. But if I could get down south to a good state, I'd be in support of that bill of rights and everything.
So pls help a man out. I begging you 🙏 pwea
No. He wants magazine restrictions. He can stay away from here.
The UK came close to losing Airsoft and there ended up being a pretty workable compromise where all Airsoft have to be by default 50% brightly colored, but by proving you are exempted (to be in theatre/movie production company, Airsoft skirmish site and more), you can then own realistic replicas. The whole thing is also not a licensing deal, but the restriction is on the retailer instead of individual, so the retailers have to agree to how to verify what a skirmisher is and if the buyer can prove it etc
there's no such thing as a reasonable compromise.
thats dumb. either you can have them or you cant. comprimise just causes issues. imo, anyone who aint a felon should be able to have bb/airsoft
@@BeetleBuns what's this, take the toy guns from my cold dead hands? Lmao.
@@aaron4820 no, it's take the toy gun after you can manage to get past the real one. Unfortunately canadians are too stupid to actually fight for what they love, so that'll never happen.
@Wayward Airsoft lmao
"Only using the boom boom five times" is all fun and games until you're dealing with an attacker who's high on bath salts and can't feel you shooting him 😳
or yknow two or three attackers high on bathsalts. Theres a reason police carry more than five rounds
@@inkarnation6512 yup.
Watch a video about when you can use a firearm for self defence in Canada and then get back to me
NOOOOOO YOU CANT DEFEND YOURSELF AGAINST BAD GUYS TRYING TO KILL YOU!1!1!1!1! -Trudeau
@@HouseGamers can you post like a title for a good video about it because I’m actually curious about Canadian laws regarding firearms self defense
Trust me, any restriction on any firearm is alittlefuckenridiculous. One restriction always leads to more, it's how we got here in the first place.
As a gun owner of Canada there's worse things to lose than airsoft losing all our guns would be worse cause then there'd be no way we could stop a tyrannical government
Thats exactly why you cant let any of your rights to own guns slip, because then if the time ever comes where you do need to fight back, you cant
You guys already left the point of no return a long time ago with that kind of stuff.
Can't really prevent tyranny with a 5 round magazine.
it sounds like you are letting it happen anyway
@@derpcade me watching the local crackhead eat those 5 rounds and keep pushing
@@derpcade a bunch of farmers can beat the word powers and canada is not a super power like the usa
Man this sucks to see this happen to you and the Canadian airsoft community, I wish we could help over here in the UK but I just don't know how man :( stay strong man
Even if you’re from the UK, you can still write to an MP or member of SECU! It only takes 10 minutes, and I highly encourage you to do so!!
@@StormingSummer oh! I had no idea, thanks dude!
@@Simisdim Np!! We need all the help we can get, so please please *please* take the time out of your day to write out to somebody, every ounce of help counts 🤙
Dude, Canada has far less restrictive firearm restrictions than us, we need the help more than anyone.
@@thatonelocalauthority2809 my point is the fact that they won't even be able to technically play Airsoft will make it way way worse than ours
As an American I can tell you that the reason why allowing these “reasonable” laws is an issue because they will always come for more and it’s happening in front of your face and you can’t see it. They say “well only five rounds” and now they’re coming for your Airsoft guns. That’s why MOST gun control is inefficient. Same thing happened in CA, they started with a week wait before a obtaining your firearm, then 30 round magazines lowering them to 25 and then 15 and then 10 and then they went after detachable magazines and then after pistol grips and now they’re after normal telescoping and foldable stocks, and now after foregrips, and now there’s a list of “approved” handgun. The people who thought (like yourself) the first laws were reasonable are the same people that are getting fucked by these laws, that’s the thing with politicians, you give them an inch and they take a mile; that’s why it’s important to always fight gun control, I may sound tinfoil hat man but it’s happening in Canada. Seriously this video is proof of how far and unreasonable they’re willing to be. All because they (the citizens) allowed their country to pass “reasonable” gun control and now this is happening.
Basically, the only airsoft guns allowed would be super short sawed-offs and certain grenade launchers. Definitely would be interesting for a custom game mode.
Aap would be allowed too lol
Actually that is not accurate here in Canada. Both sawed of or short barreled shotguns are already prohibited weapons, In fact, if say a manufacturer makes a model of firearm from the factory that has an 18 1/2 inch barrel, and you want one so you saw your 30 inch barrel OF THE SAME GUN down, you have "altered the original firearm and are therefor breaking the law by making it a "sawed off" shotgun. Don't think about it too hard....this is Canada....home of the stupid politician. As for the grenade launcher....even his plastic version breaks the new law as part of bill C-21 in that ALL firearms, or facsimiles, or "weapons" having a bore of more than 20mm are Prohibited hence illegal. They already had to make an amendment to this bill when the firearms community pointed out that all 12 gauge shotguns with an interchangeable choke and the choke tube removed....as well as all 10 gauge shotguns used for bird hunting...meet the criteria as originally written. yes...we are doomed.
so send and e mail to every parliament member at the house of commons of your 3D printed grenade launcher plans, to get them indicted to
I am a girl. I am a Canadian. I cannot believe you have put this illegal on me... Also if my Airsoft P90 becomes illegal i will cry!
I don't know how they did it, but the current Lib government somehow showcased that they are even more stupid than the original C-21 drafting. The fact that they're willing to criminalize BB gat owners is downright unbelievable. This new tabled amendment is genuinely disappointing.
There's at least genuinely more good news than what was shown in the video. Not only are the conservative party against this Bill, but every other political party is also against it. Both the Bloc and the NDP are now against basically all the airsoft and new amendments made to the Bill. With that, there's at least a chance the Bill won't go through with how it is current. Plus, the Libs somehow also pissed of the Assembly of First Nations, which is a HUGE public player and influence towards Liberal lawmakers.
Going to assume "don't know how they did it" was sarcasm. When the human with the least amount of brain cells is in charge of a country, you end up with the dumbest laws.
@@alexmacintyre4096 part sarcasm, part genuine disbelief the current government is this incompetent lol
@@billybishop4915 they didnt think anyone would notice, G4 made people notice, and then that hockey player posting about it REALLY made people notice. Lets hope we can kill c21 with this. and then if the government wants to pass actual laws that do more to stop smuggling at the border and deal with gangs ill support them on it. Remember, no concessions, no "okay thats a reasonable limit" because they will come back to take more. no pistols, no ARs, potentially soon to be no Semi autos. and then next will be no pumps no scopes no bolts no semi auto .22s.
This law has so much stupidity in it and would afflict so many citizens if it went into effect that I doubt it would be taken seriously.
Like honestly, if you went to jail for having airsoft guns, and making airsoft videos, there should be public outcry. Dont think you have to worry.
thats not how the real world works though, you don't get to say no because they already took that right away. speaking out against an airsoft arrest could legally be canadian treason, they amended free speech a few years ago and said it wasn't coming back the way it was before if ever
@@typer2909 I simply meant that if it affects enough people negatively (in an extreme way), they'll come to realize how poorly executed or awful the law itself was anyways.
@@avazquez01 You mean like weed? Do you realise how many people in the world still get prosecuted over this plant?! And Im saying this whilst not being a huge advocate of weed, tho I am an advocate of freedom.
In Israel, which is my homecountry, we've straight up heard from politicians that they don't care to hurt 2000-5000 Airsoft players over the supposed safety of the people(their claim is that Airsoft is widely used to commit crime and convert them to real steel firearms and they don't want to make a licensing process because that would be a lot of work for them)
They don't give a shit how many of us go to jail because in their eyes, if you value your hobbie this much then it means you're a criminal... that's just logic.
@@DaveOganesyan So first, the "war on drugs" is deeply ingrained in society so its much harder to uproot these outdated methods.
Back when it was implemented in the 1970's when it started to take off, everyone thought it was a good idea and fear-mongering allowed it to take a strong hold. A strong majority think that the airsoft ban is a bad idea right from the start. So kinda hard to compare the two.
Second, even today where there's a lot of strong opposition, you don't really see riots or super strong outcry. If someone goes to jail over weed, people will be very upset but it's common. If a youtuber goes to jail over a brand new airsoft ban, guarantee you its gonna be a major deal. Especially when not everyone is on board with this sudden change.
As for Israel, I cant really speak for yall. Yall got a bunch of shit going on over there and often times have to juggle between safety and freedom more than the rest of us (even here in America) since you guys are neighbors with another country that yall end up in armed conflict every 2 seconds.
I still think its wrong yall have people going to jail over a hobby but honestly cant say Im surprised yall have some strict laws like that over there.
TLDR; weed and airsoft are like apples to oranges, and Israel and Canada have different demographics in terms of beliefs. They'll likely react differently to the same issues.
I'll still like your comment cause some fair points/arguments there.
@@DaveOganesyan they wish airsoft could be converted to a real gun. Shows that anti fun lawmakers have zero knowledge of firearms.
Bro i'm so scared now, in Australia, malaysia, singapore, and papua new guinea airsoft is banned (basically countries that surrounds indonesia) meanwhile in my country (indonesia) so far there's no rule about airsoft it's completely legal but i worry some new law would pop up and make it illegal and i have to throw my airsoft and replicas away. Even if i secretly keep them anyway my religious step dad would get really mad like when i first got airsoft he was *EXTREAMELY* mad because in his eyes airsoft is the same thing as a real firearm and he tought you need a gun license to own airsoft, now he's chill about it and once asked me to recommend him a cheap airsoft pistol 😂
TBH he's probably more piss of due to the price rather than the design
@@thatoneperson6969 yeah he was also mad about that too, but he was mainly worried about me getting one since he thought he'll get in trouble because his brother is a cop 😂
And in my defense it's a hobby, he owns 3 motorcycles and i told him it's unnecessary but he said it's a hobby
@@Tsirkon
Lol the cop mostly doesn't care especially if you carrying an airsoft rifle type because the police know that wasnt real, but the real tricky is the airsoft pistol those could be real since a lot of criminal use handmade one but rifle, they already know its a toy
As an Australian, I have always wanted to move to Canada for the sake of airsoft. Shame to see you guys are possibly going to join us in the future.
Well USA is an option... not saying its a good option but ye...
@@yourallygod8261 Hey, a shitty version of Corporatism is better than full blown Authoritarianism
@@derpcade ik i'm livin in it :[
Nope it won't happen we have way to many communities about airsoft and hunters that it won't get passed this is a bill or something that a person in Parliament came up with and they need to get enough votes for it to pass and stupid bills like this never make it cause thankfully we have some smart representatives in Parliament
My guy thinks government restricting mag capacity arbitrarily is reasonable then is shocked that government wants to keep restricting shit lol 🙄
This is exactly what happens when your “fine with only 5 round mags” When you give an inch they take a mile. Your compliance just got your rights taken away, then again it’s Canada so let’s not act like you had many rights to begin with. But now you see how firearm owners feel. Hope you take a good look at your situation and realize compliance isn’t an option
I just recently got into airsoft and now they're banning it, wtf.
This has been happening since 2020 dude you had 2 years warning
Move to the US
Tyranny... That's what's going on.
If the 3d print file law passes, just email all the members of government the file and let them all immediately go to jail for looking at it XD
Brilliant 🤣
See you say the 5 round magazine law makes sense. That has what has let the current proposals through. They proved that people are willing to give up on something like ammo capacity, than they can go for caliber, or look. People said oh it’s no big deal we can make concessions so now that they took an inch, they know they can take a mile.
Its sad to hear about the Canadian government trying to ban airsoft but I'm glad to hear there is some good news. From a US airsofter, good luck.
It's more sad to hear about the cowardly anti-gun nuts like this youtuber. You act like a serf, you deserve to be one.
God I love America.
As us Americans say, it's not about guns, it's about control. Not control of criminals, control of people. This law is very dumb. Best of luck to you on not getting it passed.
Lost me when you said 5 round mag limits are reasonable
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If ONLY the airsoft community stood with us back in May 2020.
We should all have been united back in may 2021 but we where out numbered but now we can all rise awareness and get this laws thrown like a communist he is
People keep voting for Trudeau so we get what we deserve
It’s mainly Toronto and Montreal. Go figure
Somebody send this video to Parliament in Canada pls (if this law passes then GTFO of Canada)
This is so stupid. I would help if I was Canadian. Keep fighting to protect this amazing hobby!
Damn boys, we havent had any mass shootings over here in germany, yet we can:
-Own pistols, rifles, shotguns ect
-Own 10 round mags, AND own a magazine of ANY size by using one of your "slots" on your gun licence, of which you have 10 (aka any mag is easily obtainable)
-No caliber restrictions
-Own muskets, older revolvers and flintlocks without any licence, and carry them openly
-Conceal carry (though its a bit harder to do, its possible)
Again, no mass shootings here....
Banning mags doesnt solve sh*t, as theyre easily 3d printable, or just go buy them illegaly, people do that RN anyways (Ban drugs= no drug use am i right?!)
Mass shootings arent committed by legal owners most of the time...
I feel very fu*king sorry for all of you folks over there man, really...
A fellow country man or some shit.
Hallo
@@DieRatte1337 guten abend mein lieber
Yeah the part where you enthusiastically said "you have to make concessions right!". That is exactly what will lose you your rights. No, you make no concessions at all. What are you getting in return for your "concession"? Nothing. Do not allow people who know NOTHING about this hobby or firearm equipment in general, to dictate your life.
It feels good to be an american
Dude, the stuff in Canada is a prototype for the US. Don't think that the libs and the dems won't eventually try this shit here too.
@Wayward Airsoft still feels good
I read the comments suggesting Canadians move to America and I’m not against accepting refugees like this. But, if you’re in favor of banning real guns and are alright with 5-round magazine compromises, we’d really just as soon you stayed there and sleep in the bed you’ve made for yourselves.
Headline: man living with laws existing since he was born blamed for laws
@@HouseGamers Frankly I think it was the way you described it. The actual law is all center-fire cartridges have a max magazine capacity of 5 rounds. Rim fire is pretty much unlimited until c-21 passes
Bro!!! move to America yuss!!! Join us in freedom brother
Canadian John Oliver is my favorite airsoft news host.
Too many people throw around the word fascism until it doesn't even mean anything. The problem is, it does mean something, and Canada is very quickly becoming a fascist country. Read the definition, look up fascism within history and show me exactly what the differences are between modern day Canada and Germany pre-WWII. If you read something and think, "oh, well that hasn't happened", that is just your marker on the timeline of repeating events.
Thinking that the limiting of your rifles to 5rds is ok it exactly how you guys got in this mess. "Common Sense gun laws" are never about common sense it's about control eventually they'll reduce it further if not take them all together like they are with pistols. As an American it's not my place to say how your government should be run or what your rights are I'm just trying to precaution people's way of thinking that it's okay to just give up rights under the guise of the "greater good" or "saving lives"
Bro I never have understood the point of limiting magazine capacity, like bruh you know I can hold more than one mag on my person right? hell with single stack AR mags it’s even easier to reload fast because of the taper on some of them
I stopped airsofting quite some time ago here in Europe...but seeing this happening in the world makes me just sad. It will reach Europe too for sure. I wish you luck over there tho ♥
The airsoft community are very much the next threshold of REAL gun owners. Please push back on ALL tyrannical laws not just ones that apply to airsoft.
As a Canadian who wants to play Airsoft as a sport, and for fun, Bill C21 makes me mad
This situation really sucks, but really??!!! You already lost when you agreed on a 5 round mag limit. When you agree with restrictions, it is only a matter of time until they push for more, and they always do. It is never enough for them until there is nothing left.
Welcome to the fight AGAIN, even if you're not a licensed firearms owner here in Canada and your thing is only airsoft, I have owned and played airsoft and also think the ban is stupid, but as I was saying, feel free to also mention hunters and sport shooters, we were all at one point owners of pellet/BB guns or airsoft, we need all the help we can get, because one day you as well may want to become part of the law abiding licensed firearms owner community, it's also a property rights thing. Thank you, we need to keep pushing on all sides to get these Libs to stop attacking folks who just want to practice their hobby and sport in peace!
Pretty much any firearm with a detachable mag has a plus 5 round capacity option
Yet the sks and m1 garand are on the list wtf
as a canadian citizen who loves my country. I vehemently hate the idiocy in our government over the last few years for so many different issues. I hate what our amazing country is becoming and I especially hate the potential banning of a sport I love to watch and one day hope to get into because I never had the chance while I was younger. these laws are absurd to the Nth degree and I hate, strongly, the people who can't think rationally enough to just look at the law and see that it is sheer stupidity. I'll be writing to my MP as soon as I can figure out how to form a rational letter that is clear and concise and professional. I very much hope that canadadian citizens stand with us in this even if they don't play or support airsoft. we need to stand up for what rights we do have and keep them free. my lord what is the world coming to
they wont unfortunately. this is from a real gun angle but we are the only thing defending you guys rn so accept it.
Basically we lost the battle when we conceded on self defense not being a legal means for firearms. now liberals and government can just brush aside sports/target shooting as "a hobby for killers" and tell hunters they are barbaric for hunting (even stepping on native rights to do so!!!!). and they are. we need to push back on c21, destroy it and then push on guns being useful for self defense. otherwise this will happen again, assuming c21 falters, which depending on if the spring 2023 election rumors are true then it may die as all laws in writing do during one. if that happens then we have a bit of time but if trudeau wins again he will just rewrite C21 to be even more stupid.
Basically vote conservative this upcoming election, pls.
they WILL go after airsoft as it can be viewed as a way for people to train for combat without being in the military.
mark my word... soon they will try to ban the knowledge of the existence of guns.
Sounds to me like it's time to get out of Canada before that bill passes. The one good thing about moving to America is that you would have the 2nd amendment protecting your airsoft toys. I really wish you and your fellow Canadians the best. We live in very weird times.
Honestly, no, we don't need more people that are pro gun bans moving here and voting for the same type of people until the same laws are passed here too for them to then move somewhere else and do it again.
Yeah. America is not accepting of immigrants sadly. Maybe i will just become a illegal alien lol
I used to have a lot of respect for Canada. But they have just been going off the deep end
there go my dreams of playing airsoft in Canada...
At this rate we won’t even be able to play video games with guns designed to look like real guns
Hello from Poland, where if a small kid takes his savings and goes on his own to buy an airsoft AKM or M4 to play with nobody thinks twice about it. That's normal. This includes full-auto ones obviously, but then his parents might have a word with him when BBs will be just everywhere.
Mexican airsofters stand with you in this moment of pain
Its cool to see the lower americas also play this awsome game :)
Wack
America
We in the UK had to fight against the 2008 VCRA 'violent crime reduction act' which was posed to ban airsoft here. We did fight back, the compromise we all came to was what the UKARA players exemption resolution provided. Essentially we need to be a member of a club to buy realistic (black/tan/brown/OD) guns off the shelf. If we are not we can still purchase them but finished in "unrealistic colours" - usually bright luminescent greens, oranges and blues. It was an annoying compromise at the time.. but hey, we're still here and we still get to play our sport. I wonder if you guys in Canada are heading in the same direction.
Come down to Colorado! We have airsoft fields, great weather all 4 seasons, everyone spoils you with hospitality, and we're the most active people in the U.S. We also have the best mountains, but hopefully you can fight this battle from home. Good luck!
We're praying for you guys up there from the states. And hey, if you need covering fire while you escape to the US then call the boys up. We'll be there
@Wayward Airsoft , I mean you'd think that after all of this they'd learn their lesson
Any mags under 30 should be a crime imo.
You obviously have no idea what you’re talking about
Now this is a law I could get behind
I hope our northern brothers and sisters keep fighting for their rights and the sport I love so much. Bills like that don't just stop there. The government will keep seeing how much they can get away with under the guise of "the will of the people".
I don't get how most polititions are soooooo dumb, like god damn, they should at least do some sort of research on a topic they are baning. The fact that they don't see that criminals have the acces to guns even tho guns are getting baned is insane. They are criminals for a reason and doesn't care a single bit about laws, INCLUDING GUN LAWS ://
Can we? Can we call this a human rights violation? Especially the instant criminal thing.
You could maybe get in contact the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights, CCFR. They have been a big voice for firearms owners.
The primary goal of the airsoft community is to seperate themself from the firearm owners. Wich is fair since it's toyguns and the majority of player don't and won't own a real firearm in their life. The airsoft federation is working their asses to have their own legislation. Firearm owner have all the right to be angry and fight against c-21, but don't include people who don't and won't own a real weapon in it.
@@Silly_Snake45 this is the problem though if airsofters or gun owners give them an inch in a few years they’ll take a mile the it doesn’t affect me directly YET so I don’t care is so lazy and stupid please don’t be like this.
@@TraviNomotion that’s the thing, airsoft are not firearms. They are toyguns and should be concidered as such. Making them part of the firearm ban is utterly stupid.
That said, the airsoft fédération is working their asses to have their own legislation and law over airsoft by separating them from firearms.
@@Silly_Snake45 yes that is true they are not firearms and shouldn’t be considered as such but they’re attacking both of us so going ehh doesn’t affect me yet makes the whole situation worse
@@TraviNomotion As it is, no one in the community is going “meh”. That government will pass their bill like they always do and the only chance airsoft has is to separate themselves from it. As powerful as the CCFR can be with all the money that have, they have a hell of a hard time dealing with new bills. One of those bill they pass was illegal and even if the ccfr is winning on that pass bill, the damage as already been done and public opinion is still going from bad to worst.
The majority of Canadian don’t care about firearms and they see it as useless and dangerous thing that the population shouldn’t have. Which is partially right. Hunting rifle should not be part of that ban.
If this law goes into effect than there's only one way to keep all your airsoft stuff and that is to get a storage unit here in the USA near an airsoft field
and then go to prison when they find it crossing the border
They don't check for airsoft toys coming into the USA just real firearms
@@waynecurrie9017 you have to take it out of Canada bud
Another reason not to go visit Canada, got it.
no way, this bill not only affects real firearms but fake ones to???? thats insane. i play airsoft but ive never seen a bill targeting real guns where it affects fake ones too holy crap.
I 100% agree, common sense has gone out the window with a brick tied to its foot. These are the results.
i cant believe the uk has more relaxed laws on airsoft than any other country
Yeah, even the US. It's kinda shocking
I recently saw a video from Britain where They said you need a license for an airsoft rifle
What are you talking about? In my state in the US I can remove/paint over the orange tip of an airsoft gun and walk down the street holding it while it's indistinguishable from a real rifle. The only thing I can't do is aim it at random people or brandish it in a threatening manner while it can be misidentified as a real gun. Are you conflating California laws with American laws?
@@morgatron4639 where are you, Texas or Florida?
@@catholicpatriotusa1507 Utah, pretty lax all around with some of the best laws protecting concealed carry as well.