Lol everyone says Maris shouldn't be in, but then no one says a thing about Reggie. Maris 2 MVPs Jackson 0, Maris 3 WS, Jackson 2. Maris played 7 years, Jackson played 5
Not sure if you’re aware of this, but these videos are awesome for new Yankees fans like me. I moved to the city a couple of years ago and fell in love with the Yankees, and these videos have helped so much in my Yankees knowledge. So thanks, keep it up!
Undeservedly so IMO, he got two MVPs, a major role in two titles (also five pennants in a row), and one of the all-time seasons in baseball history It's as though everyone forgot why Judge's 62 last year was so significant to begin with.
True, but I definitely am a fan of the idea of retiring numbers for players and coaches separately, would be cool to see one player and one manager for each number
Holy shit really showing strong bias against Maris. He has the same amount of world series as Nettles does on the Yankees, and one more without them. He also won MVP twice while playing for yankees and set the single season home run record as a Yankee, the record that didn't get broken until last year. Their careers aren't even close in retrospect. You don't get your number retired for being a good teammate, should we retire Gardner's number now too? Hard to watch that part
Retiring a number doesn't have to be just about the greatest Yankees over his career with the team. It can be about a player have an incredible special season or three. Maris was before my time, but I fully understand the incredibleness of 61 in 61. Back-to-back MVPs. Yes, Maris deserves his number retired and his place in Yankee history. Mattingly is not a HOFer and never made it to the World Series, but he also deserves to have his number retired for a different reason than Maris. Ditto of Jackson. All of them are part of Yankees history and of great significance. As I also noted above though, they should honor #9 again, but this time for Nettles.
the Maris take is purposefully wrong and inflammatory, but otherwise, this was a pretty entertaining piece. I think the bit about excluding or separating managerial numbers was solid and a way more valid argument that i wish they’d spent an extra 45 seconds on rather than ragging on Roger..and..no one makes the point that we have double 8s, and could/should have double 9s?!
The Yankees have done Nettles a disservice. He actually still ranks in the top 10 of all 3B'man in baseball history in rWAR once you remove the pretenders, such as Miguel Cabrera, who barely played at third. A-Rod too. He actually played more at SS, both in innings and games. Nettles still holds the AL record for HRs by a third baseman, and at his peak, he was the equal of Brooks at 3B. Should have won the Gold Glove a few times more during Brooks' reign. My guess is the Steinbrenner family still holds a grudge against him, and that's a shame. The fans don't. The Yankees haven't honored Nettles in any way in Monument Park. Not even a plaque. Crazy.
O'Neill, Posada, Torre, Mattingly, Bernie Williams should not be retired. Or at least 1 (Martin) and Torre's number should be retired but usable by players. Probably not 9 and 44 either as they were Yanks for short periods of time.
Say what u will about are there too many retired numbers for the Yanks, but for SURE there is no WAY they should have 2 players with the same number retired. That’s not a thing. If it was retired then it shouldn’t have been used again
ARod also tried to sue the Yanks, the league and everyone else he could when he got popped. Pettite on the other hand used HGH when his shoulder was injured before it was illegal and continues to contribute to the organization to this day. Everyone can have their own views of course, but Pettite's relationships with the Yanks brass likely played a part in the decision.
@@wright1192 Some folks may feel that way, but I feel that cheating is comparable to commiting criminal offenses. Someone arrested for smoking weed in public where it's illegal still committed a crime, but it's not the same someone who committed a murder. Especially if the former is willing to perform community service and reform for example.
We wanna look to the future, we gotta tear down the past. Babe Ruth was nothing more than a fat old man, with little-girl legs. And here's something I just found out recently, he wasn't really a sultan!
Some people just struggle with jersey numbers. If I can tell you everything about a player or manager's career except their number, why does the number really matter?
@@lincolnmckay555 “struggle with jersey numbers”. ok. no, he just doesn’t know anything about NYY history prior to his 16th birthday, which is pretty poor for a so-called super fan. I’m sure he can waste everyone’s time talking about cricket though.
Lucas has really found his place in this world, huh?
😂
WOW, Rodger getting nuked by the panel was not on my bingo card for this video
New rule: Lucas gets rohypnol 30 minutes before each episode.
Lol everyone says Maris shouldn't be in, but then no one says a thing about Reggie. Maris 2 MVPs Jackson 0, Maris 3 WS, Jackson 2. Maris played 7 years, Jackson played 5
Love bringing Jolly trivia to Talkin Yanks. Keep it up!!!
Not sure if you’re aware of this, but these videos are awesome for new Yankees fans like me. I moved to the city a couple of years ago and fell in love with the Yankees, and these videos have helped so much in my Yankees knowledge. So thanks, keep it up!
I feel bad for Maris. He got shit on while he was a Yankee, and even long after.
Undeservedly so IMO, he got two MVPs, a major role in two titles (also five pennants in a row), and one of the all-time seasons in baseball history
It's as though everyone forgot why Judge's 62 last year was so significant to begin with.
Yankees retired numbers ranked by bWAR with the Yankees
1. Babe Ruth: 142.9 bWAR
2. Lou Gehrig: 113.8 bWAR
3. Mickey Mantle: 110.2 bWAR
4. Joe DiMaggio: 79.1 bWAR
5. Derek Jeter: 71.3 bWAR
6. Yogi Berra: 59.6 bWAR
7. Whitey Ford: 57.0 bWAR
T-8. Mariano Rivera: 56.3 bWAR
T-8. Bill Dickey: 56.3 bWAR
10. Andy Pettite: 51.3 bWAR
11. Bernie Williams: 49.6 bWAR
12. Ron Guidry: 47.8 bWAR
13. Thurman Munson: 46.1 bWAR
14. Jorge Posada: 42.7 bWAR
15. Don Mattingly: 42.4 bWAR
16. Phil Rizzuto: 42.1 bWAR
17. Elston Howard: 27.6 bWAR
18. Paul O’Neill: 26.7 bWAR
19. Roger Maris: 26.4 bWAR
20. Reggie Jackson: 17.2 bWAR
judge is already at 51.7 as of this comment, so he'd be above Pettite... wild
A few too many numbers retired but so do the Celtics (23), Canadiens (15 honoring 18 players) and Lakers (13)- dynastic teams tend to do this
NBA and NHL both have a max roster size of less than half an MLB Roster.
True, but I definitely am a fan of the idea of retiring numbers for players and coaches separately, would be cool to see one player and one manager for each number
The Roger Maris disrespect is CRAZY
Yall should do top 20 HR leaders all time ina row
Holy shit really showing strong bias against Maris. He has the same amount of world series as Nettles does on the Yankees, and one more without them. He also won MVP twice while playing for yankees and set the single season home run record as a Yankee, the record that didn't get broken until last year. Their careers aren't even close in retrospect. You don't get your number retired for being a good teammate, should we retire Gardner's number now too? Hard to watch that part
Retiring a number doesn't have to be just about the greatest Yankees over his career with the team. It can be about a player have an incredible special season or three. Maris was before my time, but I fully understand the incredibleness of 61 in 61. Back-to-back MVPs. Yes, Maris deserves his number retired and his place in Yankee history. Mattingly is not a HOFer and never made it to the World Series, but he also deserves to have his number retired for a different reason than Maris. Ditto of Jackson. All of them are part of Yankees history and of great significance. As I also noted above though, they should honor #9 again, but this time for Nettles.
Wouldn’t be surprised if 52 gets retired soon as well as (maybe) 13, and then obviously 99 eventually.
Hispanic Jomboy is always a great face to see
the Maris take is purposefully wrong and inflammatory, but otherwise, this was a pretty entertaining piece. I think the bit about excluding or separating managerial numbers was solid and a way more valid argument that i wish they’d spent an extra 45 seconds on rather than ragging on Roger..and..no one makes the point that we have double 8s, and could/should have double 9s?!
Jolly on Talkin Yanks woah
Jolly looking like a younger Jimmy
Rick Cerone wore 10 too, guess that was before they retired it?
Can anyone tell me where I can find the cap Lucas is wearing in this video?
I actually don’t think the Yankees retired 42 for Jackie because they would probably have a separate plaque for him in dodger colors
They do have a plaque for him in monument park
Need a tattoo reveal
We need more Lucas
Tp be fair to jimmy on number 1, it seemed like his vast yankees knowledge almost worked against him
The Yankees have done Nettles a disservice. He actually still ranks in the top 10 of all 3B'man in baseball history in rWAR once you remove the pretenders, such as Miguel Cabrera, who barely played at third. A-Rod too. He actually played more at SS, both in innings and games. Nettles still holds the AL record for HRs by a third baseman, and at his peak, he was the equal of Brooks at 3B. Should have won the Gold Glove a few times more during Brooks' reign. My guess is the Steinbrenner family still holds a grudge against him, and that's a shame. The fans don't. The Yankees haven't honored Nettles in any way in Monument Park. Not even a plaque. Crazy.
first one I can do easily
Trading Jordan Montgomery was obviously stupid and hopefully the Yankees sign him this offseason.
Does Lucas have an insane recall about no sports stuff too ? Like does he remember what being born was like Lol
I think he knows his story of being the winning swimmer honestly
If the Yankees really wanted to be cool they would retire all the numbers and start using letters.
If 42 was retired for Jackie Robinson, how did Mo end up with it?
Edit; Robinson's number was only retired in '97
Mo was grandfathered in, plus Robinson's widow was okay with it. Said Mo exemplified the number and the character.
@@mrshashwat97 Oh that's cool, nice little detail :D
They’re is a player Jolly, 3 of them actually. Probably the most well know is Jody Davis, C for the Cubs in the mid-80’s. 2:24
Joe Dee, not Jody
Retire 52.
will do
O'Neill, Posada, Torre, Mattingly, Bernie Williams should not be retired. Or at least 1 (Martin) and Torre's number should be retired but usable by players. Probably not 9 and 44 either as they were Yanks for short periods of time.
Not retiring Mattingly is WILD
Say what u will about are there too many retired numbers for the Yanks, but for SURE there is no WAY they should have 2 players with the same number retired. That’s not a thing. If it was retired then it shouldn’t have been used again
It wasn't retired because it immediately went to Yogi after Dickey left so it's a weird situation.
Wait, andy pettitt got his number retired while being a PED user?? But Arod isn’t??
ARod also tried to sue the Yanks, the league and everyone else he could when he got popped. Pettite on the other hand used HGH when his shoulder was injured before it was illegal and continues to contribute to the organization to this day. Everyone can have their own views of course, but Pettite's relationships with the Yanks brass likely played a part in the decision.
@@RuztyNails but I thought cheating was cheating?? At least that’s what your fan base was screaming at the Astros
Lol one player taking steroids does not equate to a whole organization collectively cheating to win. Hope this helps@@wright1192
@@wright1192 Some folks may feel that way, but I feel that cheating is comparable to commiting criminal offenses. Someone arrested for smoking weed in public where it's illegal still committed a crime, but it's not the same someone who committed a murder. Especially if the former is willing to perform community service and reform for example.
Get your JM baseball adds out of here jolly, trying to steal promo codes
Nice part jolly. Just shave your head. Youre about to go bald
We wanna look to the future, we gotta tear down the past. Babe Ruth was nothing more than a fat old man, with little-girl legs. And here's something I just found out recently, he wasn't really a sultan!
Jimmy...you disgust me. what fan stumbles on 1 and questions 6? 15...unbelievable. know your history before you run a podcast being a so-called fan
Some people just struggle with jersey numbers. If I can tell you everything about a player or manager's career except their number, why does the number really matter?
@@lincolnmckay555 “struggle with jersey numbers”. ok. no, he just doesn’t know anything about NYY history prior to his 16th birthday, which is pretty poor for a so-called super fan. I’m sure he can waste everyone’s time talking about cricket though.