@@heroncan8969 ikr lol. I just dont understand how someone could be that non-knowledgeable. idk maybe I'm just speaking from my experience as someone that has common sense, but every time I buy/try out a new character the first thing i do is go into the advanced menu and read what all the abilities do and stuff. Then I go into the shooting range and fuck off for like 10-15 minutes just getting a feel for the character.
@@Luxgen-mp5bb idk I see a good amount of moji players (for reference, I don't touch ranked I just play casuals). I see more of her than many of the other flanks. Like I see moji more than VII, lex, vatu, talus, caspian, and kasumi. Hell I hardly even see people play zhin these days. The only flanks I see people play regularly are Skye, Buck, Koga, Maeve and Andro. Vora and Evie I see sometimes, but still not that much.
gotta love the fact that even though moji is a chamo that has been around since years now, since practically no one played her and she was hardely seen in few matches, this rework does really feel like a full fledged champion.Though some players will be dissatisfied with the rework, this changed is for the better. The vast majority of the community will enjoy her more now.
It's definitely a good rework but Moji has been unplayable for years now and Hirez promised her rework long long ago. I don't have an issue with the rework, I'm just kinda disappointed about how much it took them to release it.
I'm not so sure. I suspect her play rate will remain largely the same. She still doesn't seem particularly viable compared to the best champions of her class, and her gameplay is less engaging. I'd figure that after about two weeks, she's still going to be one of the least-picked champions in the game.
I'm not really that excited for the jenos buffs tbh. I wish they would give supports some other kind of utility other than just movement speed and shields. It's getting really old.
@@darkeaglecpg3463 Yeah, which sucks because his heals already suck lol. ig though it does make sense because since now it's harder to put marks on a whole team, it won't be super broken (hopefully).
I think it would be cool if there was a way to decide which class to play as for moji, maybe something like how Octavia can pick one of her passives. Never played her myself (and personally found her to be rather annoying), but given the amount of dissatisfied moji mains, I think it could be cool.
8:10 The issue isn't that you are less mobile, because you're right, you are more mobile now with new scamper. The issue old Moji players seem to have is that they think bunny hopping is this super skillful never-before-seen tech only Moji has. They are trying to gatekeep a tech that's been in shooters for forever, and don't want people to have it easier basically. Literally exactly what someone told me on the Paladins subr when I pointed out to them that there's no need for bunnyhopping. It's actually mindboggling the kind of stuff people will gatekeep just for the hell of it
You can still bunnyhop with the new scamper though, right? Just cancel early and proceed as before? And it won't be pointless because you can fire and and use abilities while maintaining the extra speed (imo the strongest aspect of bunnyhop), which you can't do while scampering.
the thing is that bunny hopping let you change direction on the fly, shoot, barrier and ult while moving faster than a mount while on a flat or downhill surface with a shorter duration on inclines. I feel that the infinite duration kinda dumbed down scamper to being worse but easier to pick up and use.
For me personally, this patch killed the game, I considered and consider moji to be one of the best in terms of game character design, among many other projects and, in fact, this game. They deleted it to give a little hype to the game, I don't dispute that the heal probably came out quite well. But it was done at too great a price for me, I really was in love with this character, really.
I play every champion the game has to offer but this moji update hurts worse than any champ that could've changed. moji was the perfect champion to have fun with every single time, to those who understood how to play him he was the best champ in the game
Someone pointed out how much more involved she is as a support, and I can't get over that beautiful comment. She feels much more viable as a support. This was the best thing to happen to this champion.
I do like the idea of supports providing shields as it does directly impact tanks too. Interesting changes overall. Kinda think mojo should get two dashes, rei heal goes through walls not two and Lilith not a clue.
literally an aoe torvald pocket every 3 sec this will be really fun to play against knowing that torvald pocket is already so annoying on such a long cooldown they nerf many healers while making some literally op like rei or moji.
I actually think that if they will balance Moji revork a little, it can work quite well. Also, I really like the idea of giving support more ultity, but I think that they can go crazier than movment speed and shields, even tho its better than nothing i guess.
I really hope this is turned into an echo champion and doesn't replace Moji. She's a lot of fun as a flank and most of what I like about her is just straight up gone with this, it would be really depressing if they actually go through with these changes :/
To be honest, removing Moji from flank was the best decision since her kit was clunky and unfit for flank. The kit was so poorly designed that the champion could either be overturned or straight up trash which has been the case for the past 2-3 years
@@imnotreanalbertospynotatal6968 absolutely not. Her kit could've stayed the same as a flank with improvements while maintaining her balanced. Specially with the amount of counters and weaknesses she has.
@@ranzu3138there was literally nothing extra to give Moji without either making her broken or killing her identity as a flank anyway. Her dps is/was already through the roof, she already has an execute ultimate, she has/had a full invincibility ability. Only things you could do was boost her range which would stop her being Moji and turn her into another long range spammer or rework her Scamper into a more useful mobility effect but that would be taking away her most unique ability to turn it into some boring dash. I wish there was a talent to keep her magic marks for dps but so far I’m very pleased with what they did to her kit to make it serviceable without sacrificing too much of what makes Moji, Moji. Pretty much everything besides Magic Barrier is still there in one way or another.
@@dungeaterfancam Her dps was dependant on building up marks, shields easily negate that. Her ultimate is unreliable, very risky and can be easily wasted. Magic Barrier lasts 2 seconds and the moment it drops she's a huge target. They could've given her 2 charges of scamper, improve her ultimate, turn tooth into a proper support talent, give her a talent that gave her some sort of vertical mobility, maybe increase her health to 2300 like buck, and a lot of other quality of life changes. See what works, what doesn't and adjust accordingly. There's a lot that could've been done to make her better without making her broken and maintaining her flank identity.
All the 5 mojo mains have come out of their burrows to protest. Dealing inconsistent damage. Wonky mechanisms. It had to go, more moji mains are going to show up with this rework.
so can moji 1v1 at all now? I'm not saying the changes are bad but there should at least be a talent that gives her a watered down version of her old kit. Maybe it could something like 800 or 900 damage for a full stack instead of the full 1k she had.
Its in the pts phase rn. They have the idea to make moji a healer and are letting the pc community play test it, so for now, moji is a flank. But when the update comes out, healer
How does it not fit exactly? She is literally defenseless against flanks, giant hit box, low DPS, no magic barrier or protection against stuns or cc in general, she is a cookie for flanks ironically.
@@CravingPain remember when Lex had 90% dr and no other character did? So now it's down to like 40 which is in line with other dr abilities? All the healers can use an ability for a few seconds, teleport, glide, transcend the mortal plain, TEMPORARILY. Moji can just sprint infinitely? And I think I read someone say at top speed it's like master riding two? Point being is it's unique but most unique things in the game get set back in line with the other characters. Buff her health, limit the scamper. It'll happen eventually I'd bet.
Worst decision hi rez has made what a lazy move, make a new healer leave the 5 year old moji alone. Quitting after many years, hoping they welch and change him back thats my only hope to return
Now, moji, who can heal shields at is a character who can practically ignore anti-healing! Think of it as a character that can heal with weapons. I think grohk is still good, but if you want to use pip, I think moji is better. I think the only thing he is better at is giving range slow, but with the number of characters with powerful CC increasing, I think pip is losing his identity. How about reworking him to flank or damage? I don't think pip is commensurate with the skills required.
It’s weird all but the 20 moji mains are hating on the rework where the rest of the community is happy. I never played moji myself as there are better flanks with better movement and ults. Adding more to support means another support for me to play
@@bruhn3xus26 I mean in my eyes moji looked like she was meant to be a healer to me 😭 and me being someone who loves playing as a healer I’m glad she’s one cause it looks fun
@@Nina-xo555 I disagree with moji being meant to be a healer. My impression was always that she was meant to be a bulky flank with really good self sustain who uses her bulk + sustain to get in close and enter/exit engagements, but it never really worked out that way because snack attack was bugged. Which in case you didn't know, snack attack dropping health packs when teammates get elims was a bug, it was supposed to be only when she got an elim but of course they never fixed it. Edit: Also, I as someone who plays a lot of healers as well, think that the moji rework is kind of a slap in the face to other supports that need reworks more. Like ffs how long has corvus teleport been bugged? Years at this point? I understand that this game was built on a potato and the code is like spaghetti, but if that's the case, why don't they just give him a new movement ability? Why does he have to have the same buggy ass ability that doesn't even work half the time, AND half the time when it DOES work, you fall through the map -_-
Honestly it still baffles me how many people didn't know that old moji could hit people for 1k damage. Like, did y'all read what she does lol.
It's true tho, but the dps isn't that high.
i didn’t have to read it just figured it out 😅
to be fair why bother learnign about a character you encounter once every full moon
@@heroncan8969 ikr lol. I just dont understand how someone could be that non-knowledgeable. idk maybe I'm just speaking from my experience as someone that has common sense, but every time I buy/try out a new character the first thing i do is go into the advanced menu and read what all the abilities do and stuff. Then I go into the shooting range and fuck off for like 10-15 minutes just getting a feel for the character.
@@Luxgen-mp5bb idk I see a good amount of moji players (for reference, I don't touch ranked I just play casuals). I see more of her than many of the other flanks. Like I see moji more than VII, lex, vatu, talus, caspian, and kasumi. Hell I hardly even see people play zhin these days. The only flanks I see people play regularly are Skye, Buck, Koga, Maeve and Andro. Vora and Evie I see sometimes, but still not that much.
0:34 Those shields should be a feature of forge fire.
"you guys just left me free alone in the backline"
deadass me to my friends in ranked
gotta love the fact that even though moji is a chamo that has been around since years now, since practically no one played her and she was hardely seen in few matches, this rework does really feel like a full fledged champion.Though some players will be dissatisfied with the rework, this changed is for the better. The vast majority of the community will enjoy her more now.
And I got to say, so many more people would enjoy the rework as a separate champion instead of having their main nuked from the game
It's definitely a good rework but Moji has been unplayable for years now and Hirez promised her rework long long ago. I don't have an issue with the rework, I'm just kinda disappointed about how much it took them to release it.
if her damage talent was something that felt like a flank moji i think everyone would be happy
@@raystimphil8280 no chance, next to no one mained her. many more will play her more then the mains that can cry.
I'm not so sure. I suspect her play rate will remain largely the same. She still doesn't seem particularly viable compared to the best champions of her class, and her gameplay is less engaging. I'd figure that after about two weeks, she's still going to be one of the least-picked champions in the game.
Im excited for these jenos buffs 🙏my friends are gonna love that insane speed boost
Its not really a buff healingwise actually. I mean yeah utility is great but this change REALLY hurts the uptime of his heals
I'm not really that excited for the jenos buffs tbh. I wish they would give supports some other kind of utility other than just movement speed and shields. It's getting really old.
@@darkeaglecpg3463 Yeah, which sucks because his heals already suck lol. ig though it does make sense because since now it's harder to put marks on a whole team, it won't be super broken (hopefully).
I think it would be cool if there was a way to decide which class to play as for moji, maybe something like how Octavia can pick one of her passives. Never played her myself (and personally found her to be rather annoying), but given the amount of dissatisfied moji mains, I think it could be cool.
8:10 The issue isn't that you are less mobile, because you're right, you are more mobile now with new scamper. The issue old Moji players seem to have is that they think bunny hopping is this super skillful never-before-seen tech only Moji has. They are trying to gatekeep a tech that's been in shooters for forever, and don't want people to have it easier basically. Literally exactly what someone told me on the Paladins subr when I pointed out to them that there's no need for bunnyhopping. It's actually mindboggling the kind of stuff people will gatekeep just for the hell of it
because its cool and made her slightly interesting; what the fuck is gatekeep-y about removing piss easy tech from a bad character?
You can still bunnyhop with the new scamper though, right? Just cancel early and proceed as before? And it won't be pointless because you can fire and and use abilities while maintaining the extra speed (imo the strongest aspect of bunnyhop), which you can't do while scampering.
the thing is that bunny hopping let you change direction on the fly, shoot, barrier and ult while moving faster than a mount while on a flat or downhill surface with a shorter duration on inclines. I feel that the infinite duration kinda dumbed down scamper to being worse but easier to pick up and use.
For me personally, this patch killed the game, I considered and consider moji to be one of the best in terms of game character design, among many other projects and, in fact, this game. They deleted it to give a little hype to the game, I don't dispute that the heal probably came out quite well. But it was done at too great a price for me, I really was in love with this character, really.
I play every champion the game has to offer but this moji update hurts worse than any champ that could've changed. moji was the perfect champion to have fun with every single time, to those who understood how to play him he was the best champ in the game
Step into the dark and live 😈, them his ultimate heals 4k per second
I was so useless for the first half, but then it finally clicked what I had to do lol...
Someone pointed out how much more involved she is as a support, and I can't get over that beautiful comment. She feels much more viable as a support. This was the best thing to happen to this champion.
I do like the idea of supports providing shields as it does directly impact tanks too. Interesting changes overall. Kinda think mojo should get two dashes, rei heal goes through walls not two and Lilith not a clue.
literally an aoe torvald pocket every 3 sec this will be really fun to play against knowing that torvald pocket is already so annoying on such a long cooldown they nerf many healers while making some literally op like rei or moji.
I actually think that if they will balance Moji revork a little, it can work quite well. Also, I really like the idea of giving support more ultity, but I think that they can go crazier than movment speed and shields, even tho its better than nothing i guess.
Man, if yall defended at the end there, the numbers would've been even more stacked. Jeez.
Moji gives me Brigitte vibes with the fact that they both heal as they hit enemies and they have short range.
I really hope this is turned into an echo champion and doesn't replace Moji. She's a lot of fun as a flank and most of what I like about her is just straight up gone with this, it would be really depressing if they actually go through with these changes :/
To be honest, removing Moji from flank was the best decision since her kit was clunky and unfit for flank. The kit was so poorly designed that the champion could either be overturned or straight up trash which has been the case for the past 2-3 years
@@imnotreanalbertospynotatal6968 absolutely not. Her kit could've stayed the same as a flank with improvements while maintaining her balanced. Specially with the amount of counters and weaknesses she has.
It's already decided that she will stay.
@@ranzu3138there was literally nothing extra to give Moji without either making her broken or killing her identity as a flank anyway. Her dps is/was already through the roof, she already has an execute ultimate, she has/had a full invincibility ability. Only things you could do was boost her range which would stop her being Moji and turn her into another long range spammer or rework her Scamper into a more useful mobility effect but that would be taking away her most unique ability to turn it into some boring dash. I wish there was a talent to keep her magic marks for dps but so far I’m very pleased with what they did to her kit to make it serviceable without sacrificing too much of what makes Moji, Moji. Pretty much everything besides Magic Barrier is still there in one way or another.
@@dungeaterfancam Her dps was dependant on building up marks, shields easily negate that.
Her ultimate is unreliable, very risky and can be easily wasted.
Magic Barrier lasts 2 seconds and the moment it drops she's a huge target.
They could've given her 2 charges of scamper, improve her ultimate, turn tooth into a proper support talent, give her a talent that gave her some sort of vertical mobility, maybe increase her health to 2300 like buck, and a lot of other quality of life changes.
See what works, what doesn't and adjust accordingly. There's a lot that could've been done to make her better without making her broken and maintaining her flank identity.
When does it drop to live servers (asking bc i play on ps5)
In a week i think
Say no more
Imagine Jenos Torvold Moji with some other support and tank
Moji seems to get countered hard by late game cauterize
SILLY team comp: Moji, yagowrath, torvald, Caspian, Octavia. All shields.
Did I miss where you showed the build?
Watching you player healer makes me want to play Grohk again. Is he still a viable healer?
No he sucks as healer
Nah grohk heals are worthless, he works as a second support, but solo makes all your team suffer
All the 5 mojo mains have come out of their burrows to protest. Dealing inconsistent damage. Wonky mechanisms. It had to go, more moji mains are going to show up with this rework.
so can moji 1v1 at all now? I'm not saying the changes are bad but there should at least be a talent that gives her a watered down version of her old kit. Maybe it could something like 800 or 900 damage for a full stack instead of the full 1k she had.
Nope, she is kinda helpless, glad she can infinity sprint to run away,she literally can't fight
So moji is a support/tank now
I can ignore the big heals but why is the shield on a so short cd? Lol
is healer moji just a thing in ranked or it a whole wide thing because I have seen flank moji and not healer
Its in the pts phase rn. They have the idea to make moji a healer and are letting the pc community play test it, so for now, moji is a flank. But when the update comes out, healer
and we all gonna ignore that jenos dmg ???
just in Pts ? when will come to normal ?
When does this come out on console ?
I would like them to keep the ability to apply magic marks to enemies. It just feels so wrong, feels like if they removed the cookie
Whats the build ?
When's the update launching
When the current battle pass ends
play her feel like playing moria
what is pts?
Infinite movement ability for a healer doesn't really fit with the game at all. Jenos can glide I guess but it isn't a sprint.
How does it not fit exactly? She is literally defenseless against flanks, giant hit box, low DPS, no magic barrier or protection against stuns or cc in general, she is a cookie for flanks ironically.
@@CravingPain remember when Lex had 90% dr and no other character did? So now it's down to like 40 which is in line with other dr abilities?
All the healers can use an ability for a few seconds, teleport, glide, transcend the mortal plain, TEMPORARILY. Moji can just sprint infinitely? And I think I read someone say at top speed it's like master riding two?
Point being is it's unique but most unique things in the game get set back in line with the other characters. Buff her health, limit the scamper. It'll happen eventually I'd bet.
Worst decision hi rez has made what a lazy move, make a new healer leave the 5 year old moji alone. Quitting after many years, hoping they welch and change him back thats my only hope to return
I assume this is fake? Or is this really the end of paladins have they really given up?
Now, moji, who can heal shields at is a character who can practically ignore anti-healing!
Think of it as a character that can heal with weapons.
I think grohk is still good, but if you want to use pip, I think moji is better.
I think the only thing he is better at is giving range slow, but with the number of characters with powerful CC increasing, I think pip is losing his identity.
How about reworking him to flank or damage?
I don't think pip is commensurate with the skills required.
I still think infinite dash is unnecessary. Maybe 2 charges or reduced cooldown. It just seems that she has mount 24/7 for no reason at all
Get over yourself buddy.
MOJI SUMOS 🤣
00:07 is the card called "cozy" even worth it? I dont quite understand the value of putting 3 points into it. Looks useless?
It is useless lol, Andrew didn't do the math that's all, very weak card even at lvl 5
Double sup double tank meta?
Guys played like horses, only look forward. 😂😂
How do you play at paladins public test since it's not working for me?
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It’s weird all but the 20 moji mains are hating on the rework where the rest of the community is happy. I never played moji myself as there are better flanks with better movement and ults. Adding more to support means another support for me to play
Koga 3 kils 11 die 🤣🤣🤣 who play this poor chempion?
This Moji gameplay just doesn't look at all interesting.
Not not really. It's mostly just him sitting in the back pressing the same 2-3 buttons over and over again.
Well it looks fun to me
@@Nina-xo555 That's fair. idk I'm still angry that this change is even happening. Nobody asked for a moji rework. Literally no one.
@@bruhn3xus26 I mean in my eyes moji looked like she was meant to be a healer to me 😭 and me being someone who loves playing as a healer I’m glad she’s one cause it looks fun
@@Nina-xo555 I disagree with moji being meant to be a healer. My impression was always that she was meant to be a bulky flank with really good self sustain who uses her bulk + sustain to get in close and enter/exit engagements, but it never really worked out that way because snack attack was bugged. Which in case you didn't know, snack attack dropping health packs when teammates get elims was a bug, it was supposed to be only when she got an elim but of course they never fixed it.
Edit: Also, I as someone who plays a lot of healers as well, think that the moji rework is kind of a slap in the face to other supports that need reworks more. Like ffs how long has corvus teleport been bugged? Years at this point? I understand that this game was built on a potato and the code is like spaghetti, but if that's the case, why don't they just give him a new movement ability? Why does he have to have the same buggy ass ability that doesn't even work half the time, AND half the time when it DOES work, you fall through the map -_-