I have a Vortex Crossfire II on a Centerpoint XT390. This scope is zeroed at 40 yrds, then you move out to 60 to adjust your speed. Once you have that dialed in, your above the line pins are dead on as well. I haven't taken a shot over about 25-30 yrd on a deer yet with it though. Overall a great video. Keep it up.
Bought both KI speed ring scopes because of your previous reviews . Love them both ! One on KI Ripper 415 and the other on the Ripper 425 ! Keep the Great Info Videos Coming ! Stay Safe & Healthy ! God Bless !
I just found this video and was quite intrigued with the explanation of the Speedring setting in conjunction to your recitals, I was told to site my bow in at 20 yards and may have to adjust slightly for 30, but once that’s done you go hunt. I have never taken shots out to 50+ yards and while watching your explanation you have to adjust your Speed Ring as you actually go out in yardage ? Again I always thought once sighted in you would just Hold on your perspective yardage and ease the trigger
If you have a speedring style scope, you'll want to take some longer shots to dial in the reticle dot spaces. Higher speed bows = higher magnification setting = less dot spaces. The opposite for slower bows. If you scope is a fixed magnification but has multiple aiming points, you'll want to sight in the center aiming point (whatever yardage you want) and check to see where the others end up. Hope that helps, feel free to email if you have more questions.
For fixed reticle scopes, I recommend you take a small piece of thick paper like a card and draw the reticle on it, then as you figure out the exact ranging for each hash mark, write the number out on each hash on the card until each one is figured out. Then you laminate the card and tape it somewhere on your crossbow. It's the exact same procedure I use for all my rifles using LPVOs with MOA based reticles. But in that case, I just use a ballistic calculator.
For the above center scopes set your 20 with the turret up down right left when center back out to 50 then sight in at 50 using your turret for windage and elevation once set and on target cap your turrets then move back up to 20 yards and use the speed ring to set your 20 back into place and once that's done leave it alone the other dots should be good all the way out to 70 or 80 yards
@@draggindeeroutdoors no problem I ran into that issue on a 1.5 x5 above center scope and it was a bear to sight in but once ppl figure out that 50 is your center and it isn't going to move once it's sighted you just use the ring to reset your 20 and your golden
@@draggindeeroutdoors your not really getting a true zoom like a rifle scope your adjusting your field if view which like you said in the video re spaces your yardage marks
Matt , first let me say I love your videos. I liked your info in this video so I bought a killer instinct speed ring scope. Only one problem. The aiming points for me are way to small. I also could not keep the aiming points in focus. The triangle 20 yard point doesn’t even look like a triangle to me. I moved scope forward and back. Still the same problem. Maybe I have a bad scope. Sorry i really wanted to like this scope.
@@draggindeeroutdoors no big deal to me I use red any way and I tell ya for 100 bucks from Walmart this is the best scope I have ever owned. I have never been so accurate. The field of view is great as well. Putting it to the test here in Michigan after I drop them kids off at school.
Hello Draggin', is there any low-tech x bow optics such as the ones your talking about in this video that accurately accommodate the drop curve of a heavy arrow other than the HHA obviously? I'm looking to setup with a 315gr broadhead. Not sure on my total arrow weight, but I can get that number if needed.
Not there yet, I lost the two arrows that came with my crossbow trying to sight it in. Now I have only expensive arrows that I can't afford to lose. Need to figure this out, lol.
Your videos are great, thank you. But, cumbersome to say the least. No way at my age I can use these reticle to hunt with. Leopoldo suggested to me to try their rimfire scopes with parrelex to 60 yards. Please test one of their rimfire scopes , if I sight in at 25 yards and can use it to 40 yards then I’m fine.
Wowser, 60 yards? I hope you don't really hunt deer at 60 yard shot with a bow. That is merely comes down to "a lucky shot". I've lost deer at 30 yards when they simply duck the bolt completely ot take a high "no man's land" hit. Crossbows are too noisy and even at 400 plus, deer can duck them. No 60 yard shots for this guy.
While I’ve never taken a 60 yard shot at an animal, it wouldn’t be out of the realm of possibility given the perfect situation at that distance. I know my bow/arrow/broadhead can do it.
@@draggindeeroutdoors well sure a bow can get it there, that's not the problem. The problem is 2 fold, physics and a deers reaction time. Sound travels way faster than your bolt. And a deers reaction time is way faster than your bolt, its actually mind blowing how quickly they can react. I belive on RUclips some gent did a deers reaction time calculation. Check that out. Im my first few year of bow hunting, I shot several bucks. I noticed even at close ranges (20 yards) the actual entry point was much higher than my aim every time. Well I never fully made the connection until I lost 2 bucks with obviously high hits that didn't do eough damage to kill the animal (at least quickly). They can duck them well at 30. At 60, they can duck them and then have a cup of tea while they wait for your bolt to arrive. Unless the deer is already dead, a 60 yard bow shot is a very high risk is my point. Risk of what? Risk of miss or the worst case, a bad shot that just mames the animal and it suffers a long drawn out death. That is irresponsible imho. Even at 30, I aim for the heart on calm deer. If he is like crazy alert, aim for the brisket or below or you might just have a bad shot. In PA, I have yet to see a deer not jump the string like I see in the Midwest deer shows. Pa.deer seem to always be jumpy. Just shot a buck on Halloween this year, at 13 yards, my closest ever. Even though a projectile raises to a peak about 8 or so yards out, at that close range on a calm buck, I still couldn't believe how high the entrance wound was compared to my aim! My bow is a 400, and chronos in the high 300's. (Its more than a few years old). They can beat your aim at longer distances is what I'm saying. If you take a 60 yard shot, your probability of a kill shot drops significantly. I attempted a single 50 yard shot once. Hahah, that buck.completely ducked my bolt and laughed at me while I sat there thinking "how the heck did I miss???" Turns out I found a very small tuft of hair. My broadhead gave him a very slight haircut from the top of his back. Lol. I'm glad I missed because it taught me this lesson and the deer didn't suffer and die a horrible death. Have fun.
Get the Warne mounts suitable for a Weaver Rail if you have one,they have square lock pins.Fitted them on my Lumix Killer Instinct...Rock solid 💪
Thank you, great tip
I wish the video was available a few years ago when I first got my KI. Thanks for walking through everything!
You’re welcome glad it helped!
I wish someone would make a crossbow scope with 2 adjustment rings. One ring for magnification and another for adjusting your velocity.
Always a fantastic and descriptive video my friend,, Your explanation for the maximum MV36 and the speedring were spot on
My man, as always thank you for the kind words and support!
I have a Vortex Crossfire II on a Centerpoint XT390. This scope is zeroed at 40 yrds, then you move out to 60 to adjust your speed. Once you have that dialed in, your above the line pins are dead on as well. I haven't taken a shot over about 25-30 yrd on a deer yet with it though. Overall a great video. Keep it up.
Vortex makes great optics, sounds like the crossfire is a winner as well. Glad you liked the video, thanks for the support!
I got the same scope on my tenpoint vengent s440
Matt, as always great job. Your videos give very clear explanations. 4 more months and we get to shoot something that moves!!!
Thank you, James! Season will be here before you know it!
I love the max view 36, I will be picking one up for the upcoming season. great review
It’s a sweet unit, you’ll love it 👍
Matt outstanding explanation and demonstration. Keep up the good work. Thank you for passing along your knowledge. Be safe and happy hunting
Thank you for your support, Steve!
My Hawke has awesome low light settings I prefer the green over the red but yeah it’s awesome and was easy to sight in
I’ve heard nothing but good things about the Hawke line of scopes.
@@draggindeeroutdoors yeah the one I have is super awesome love the low light settings they offer
Bought both KI speed ring scopes because of your previous reviews . Love them both ! One on KI Ripper 415 and the other on the Ripper 425 !
Keep the Great Info Videos Coming !
Stay Safe & Healthy !
God Bless !
Thanks, Wade! They’re great scopes, glad you like em as well!
Thank you , outstanding explanation .
You’re welcome!
Thanks Matt, always helpful!
Thanks for the continued support, Adam!
I just found this video and was quite intrigued with the explanation of the Speedring setting in conjunction to your recitals, I was told to site my bow in at 20 yards and may have to adjust slightly for 30, but once that’s done you go hunt. I have never taken shots out to 50+ yards and while watching your explanation you have to adjust your Speed Ring as you actually go out in yardage ? Again I always thought once sighted in you would just Hold on your perspective yardage and ease the trigger
If you have a speedring style scope, you'll want to take some longer shots to dial in the reticle dot spaces. Higher speed bows = higher magnification setting = less dot spaces. The opposite for slower bows. If you scope is a fixed magnification but has multiple aiming points, you'll want to sight in the center aiming point (whatever yardage you want) and check to see where the others end up. Hope that helps, feel free to email if you have more questions.
For fixed reticle scopes, I recommend you take a small piece of thick paper like a card and draw the reticle on it, then as you figure out the exact ranging for each hash mark, write the number out on each hash on the card until each one is figured out. Then you laminate the card and tape it somewhere on your crossbow. It's the exact same procedure I use for all my rifles using LPVOs with MOA based reticles. But in that case, I just use a ballistic calculator.
For the above center scopes set your 20 with the turret up down right left when center back out to 50 then sight in at 50 using your turret for windage and elevation once set and on target cap your turrets then move back up to 20 yards and use the speed ring to set your 20 back into place and once that's done leave it alone the other dots should be good all the way out to 70 or 80 yards
You’re spot on! Thanks for posting this Jason!
@@draggindeeroutdoors no problem I ran into that issue on a 1.5 x5 above center scope and it was a bear to sight in but once ppl figure out that 50 is your center and it isn't going to move once it's sighted you just use the ring to reset your 20 and your golden
@@draggindeeroutdoors your not really getting a true zoom like a rifle scope your adjusting your field if view which like you said in the video re spaces your yardage marks
Matt , first let me say I love your videos. I liked your info in this video so I bought a killer instinct speed ring scope. Only one problem. The aiming points for me are way to small. I also could not keep the aiming points in focus. The triangle 20 yard point doesn’t even look like a triangle to me. I moved scope forward and back. Still the same problem. Maybe I have a bad scope. Sorry i really wanted to like this scope.
Thank you, Ken. Sorry to hear your scope was acting up. I’m assuming you messed with the focus ring and that didn’t help?
I have the lumix ir e 1.5x the lighted optics has an R for red obviously and it also has a G which you'd think was green...well its blue
I’ve have one like that as well…guess they put the wrong dial on em.
@@draggindeeroutdoors no big deal to me I use red any way and I tell ya for 100 bucks from Walmart this is the best scope I have ever owned. I have never been so accurate. The field of view is great as well. Putting it to the test here in Michigan after I drop them kids off at school.
@@ML-ks2lj excellent, glad you like it! Good luck out there!
Thank you, again.
You’re welcome!
Hello Draggin', is there any low-tech x bow optics such as the ones your talking about in this video that accurately accommodate the drop curve of a heavy arrow other than the HHA obviously? I'm looking to setup with a 315gr broadhead. Not sure on my total arrow weight, but I can get that number if needed.
My favorite and the one I do all my long range videos with is the Killer Instinct Maxview MV-36. It still surprises me well it works
@@draggindeeroutdoors you've shot that one with 300 up front?
I checked my setup and total arrow weight will be 615gr shot from a 390ibo bow.
Is it good for nitro 505 crossbow
Not there yet, I lost the two arrows that came with my crossbow trying to sight it in. Now I have only expensive arrows that I can't afford to lose. Need to figure this out, lol.
If ya need help, shoot me an email draggindeer@gmail.com
Great Video
Much appreciated, Glenn! Thank you!
Your videos are great, thank you. But, cumbersome to say the least. No way at my age I can use these reticle to hunt with. Leopoldo suggested to me to try their rimfire scopes with parrelex to 60 yards. Please test one of their rimfire scopes , if I sight in at 25 yards and can use it to 40 yards then I’m fine.
Thank you, Dean. These style scopes definitely have a busy reticle, I certainly understand those who want something more simplified.
Great video.
Thanks you!!
Why on the killer instinct optics it has the long red line is that 90 - 100 yards?
The tip of the bottom post is 100
@@draggindeeroutdoors thank you
dude i’m done messing with this speed ring i can’t get a good grouping for the life of me
Shoot me an email and I’ll see if I can help. draggindeer@gmail
Wowser, 60 yards? I hope you don't really hunt deer at 60 yard shot with a bow.
That is merely comes down to "a lucky shot". I've lost deer at 30 yards when they simply duck the bolt completely ot take a high "no man's land" hit.
Crossbows are too noisy and even at 400 plus, deer can duck them.
No 60 yard shots for this guy.
While I’ve never taken a 60 yard shot at an animal, it wouldn’t be out of the realm of possibility given the perfect situation at that distance. I know my bow/arrow/broadhead can do it.
@@draggindeeroutdoors well sure a bow can get it there, that's not the problem.
The problem is 2 fold, physics and a deers reaction time. Sound travels way faster than your bolt. And a deers reaction time is way faster than your bolt, its actually mind blowing how quickly they can react.
I belive on RUclips some gent did a deers reaction time calculation. Check that out.
Im my first few year of bow hunting, I shot several bucks. I noticed even at close ranges (20 yards) the actual entry point was much higher than my aim every time. Well I never fully made the connection until I lost 2 bucks with obviously high hits that didn't do eough damage to kill the animal (at least quickly).
They can duck them well at 30. At 60, they can duck them and then have a cup of tea while they wait for your bolt to arrive.
Unless the deer is already dead, a 60 yard bow shot is a very high risk is my point. Risk of what? Risk of miss or the worst case, a bad shot that just mames the animal and it suffers a long drawn out death. That is irresponsible imho.
Even at 30, I aim for the heart on calm deer. If he is like crazy alert, aim for the brisket or below or you might just have a bad shot.
In PA, I have yet to see a deer not jump the string like I see in the Midwest deer shows. Pa.deer seem to always be jumpy.
Just shot a buck on Halloween this year, at 13 yards, my closest ever.
Even though a projectile raises to a peak about 8 or so yards out, at that close range on a calm buck, I still couldn't believe how high the entrance wound was compared to my aim!
My bow is a 400, and chronos in the high 300's. (Its more than a few years old).
They can beat your aim at longer distances is what I'm saying. If you take a 60 yard shot, your probability of a kill shot drops significantly.
I attempted a single 50 yard shot once. Hahah, that buck.completely ducked my bolt and laughed at me while I sat there thinking "how the heck did I miss???"
Turns out I found a very small tuft of hair. My broadhead gave him a very slight haircut from the top of his back. Lol.
I'm glad I missed because it taught me this lesson and the deer didn't suffer and die a horrible death.
Have fun.