And the remake Oh wait Disney canceled the idea I remember seeing the trailer for it Was kinda disappointed when it was a PlayStation exclusive but they cancelled it because they thought no one would like it
Revan didn't genocide the Mandalorians. He didn't slaughter their civilians or seek to destroy their culture. He out fought them and beat them at their own game. That's why they respected him. "It was what we wanted all along, in a way. We wanted to fight the best in a battle that would be remembered for centuries. And we did." - Canderous Ordo, Mandalore the Preserver, discussing his people's defeat at the hands of Revan.
>He didn't slaughter their civilians or seek to destroy their culture. Before the split, there were no civilians. Following the mando'a was the culture, and that meant that every Mandalorian was a combatant. But it's just a slight nitpick.
@@NegaBot This was the time of the Neo-Crusaders, who had a more formal military hierarchy and organization than the traditional clans of the Mando'ade. Mandolorians not organized into the crusading forces would not have come under attack from Republics forces, not unless a terrible mistake was made or they engaged in opportunistic raiding.
Revin stole the helmet of Mandalor which was the figurehead of the culture of mandalorians. With that lost the main uniting purpose of the mandalorians desolved and their culture slowly waned away.
The full story of the helmet is that Revan witnessed a Mandalorian woman intercede to stop her commander from killing defeated enemies and he not only ignored her but killed her too. Revan actually had conflicting feelings about the Mandalorians. He knew they had honour in their culture despite their brutality, and he wore her mask as a sign of respect more than an own.
6:35 Revan chose that helmet to honour the particular Mandalorian warrior whose helmet is was. She objected to the genocide of the Cathar people by the rest of the Mandos and was executed alongside them. Revan saw what happened in a vision when he picked her helmet up.
@@tk-6967 Alternatively, since he's more than just dipping his toes in now, read the original comics (in his down time)! ^_^ Plenty of sources out there for that now. >_
Revan also called out the Jedi for not allowing love, arguing that it strengthens their connection to the force through others. That love is not a weakness or a risk, that moderation is what should be taught, not complete abstaination or complete loss of control/passion.
@@The_Blue_Otakuthose games were fire no matter what you played them on. I remember playing the shit out of kotor on a trashy tablet whenever I got downtime at work.
@@restitvtororbis5330 Yeah I had KOTOR 2 on my OG Xbox it was fun as hell to play... then a few years back my mom lent my Xbox and all my games to a friend of her's, the cunt "lost" them and then they had a falling out
Nux: "How do you get exiled from the Jedi and then from the Sith?" Kreia: "Because I Hate The Force. I hate that it seems to have a will, that it would control us to achieve some matter of balance, when countless lives are lost!" Nux needs to to look up the Philosophy of Kreia vids.
If Darth (Dark) Revan was based, Nux never seen Old Lady Kreia/Darth Traya. She's the Incarnation of being Based! And She does it in a glorious ways. Every time the Exile did good or bad, Kreia scolded Her, and I was like "Not now, Mom!"...Couldn't satisfy Her no matter what I choose, and it was glorious.
Like hes entire story can be a trilogy, first movie, his origins, the war and his fall to the darkside, second movie the civil war, being betrayed by malak and coming back to the light, third movie the rest.
@@ediblemussel532 The commentary on offer by Kreia, the person whose opinion on Revan matters most, has a lot to do with Revan as a concept and how we ought to view him and what he did.
"Savior, conqueror, hero, villain. You are all things, Revan… and yet you are nothing. In the end, you belong to neither the light nor the darkness. You will forever stand alone." -Darth Malak to Revan "Is (a monster) what Revan was? Or was he always true to himself no matter what personality he wore? And there is something that the Council may never understand. That perhaps Revan never fell. The difference between a fall and a sacrifice is sometimes difficult, but I feel that Revan understood that difference, more than anyone knew. The galaxy would have fallen if Revan had not gone to war. Perhaps he became the dark lord out of necessity, to prevent a greater evil." -Kreia
For some reason it's never stated, but Revan and Bastila Shan had kids, Satele Shan, who you see in the Old Republic cinematics and uses the double bladed lightsaber is part of that lineage.
yep and her son Theron Shan is a top agent in the Republic Strategic Information Service (Republic Spy's/Black ops) at the same time his mother Satele is the Jedi Grandmaster. *edit* it was also 1 son called Vaner, who had a son and a daughter
@@GrievousReborn no one in this thread said Satele was their daughter, and the OP said lineage which is the entire family tree (parents, children, grandchildren, great grandchildren etc. etc.)
Any "Legends" story from Star Wars are so good, they could easily be summed up with this one sentence. "*Insert Legends plot here*, And Disney gave us the Acolyte."
I never thought they could actually recreate a "I am your father" moment in any SW let alone a game. But that moment in the original KOTOR when you see Revan in the flashback take off the helmet and its the player... That had me jumping up and down.
Everyone did. What a time to be alive! No wonder KotOR (1-2) were praised by no end. Gameplay was not for everybody, but the lore/story/characters were Top Tier.
There's a difference between "falling" to the dark side and taking the plunge, knowing what needs to be sacrificed in order to complete your objectives.
Didn't really fall so much as recognize one needed to use all aspects of the force not strictly light or dark. One who is truly in balance can utilize both sides without succumbing to the extremes of either.
He’s not the only one to reach the level “Too angry to Die”. There is Darth Sion, who kept coming back, his corpse would keep pulling itself back together and get back up.
It was more like the constant pain and how that fuelled the Dark Side Wound power of His, as Darth Sion was the Lord of Pain...But put it simple, yup. “Too angry to Die”...
@@killereye Well, I always remember when he spoke it was fueled by anger and hatred. I just remembered there were others that literally kept themselves alive with their raw emotions. It is how Maul and Vader survived until they could get proper medical attention.
@@movespammerguyteam7colors Pain is a Raw Emotion, and it doesn't lie! Sion's emotional pain and petty is a form of Anger maybe...I choose to think, He's unkillable cuz His title is the Lord of Pain. While dizni SW is trash, in EP7 Kylo hit his wounds, causing pain (and anger) to fire himself up against rey skinwalker...
Well sure, but Sion and Nihilus represent the ironies of their respective god-like abilities: all-powerful will and all-powerful destruction. After achieving these they became slaves to them since now their lives were dependent upon feeding their respective power, which is precisely why Kreia said that their powers had made them not just weak, but slaves. Sion became invulnerable and can withstand anything. But he can't ever let his guard down or become vulnerable at all, lest he die. So now that invulnerability protects nothing other than itself. Sion is a shell holding on to immortality for the shear sake of it. Yet he claims it's his power. Nihilus can destroy anyone and anything. But he can never stop lest he die. So now nothing can stand in his way, but his hunger forces him to put obstacles (food) in his way. So it does nothing but perpetuate itself. Yet he claims it's his power. In the Nietzschean sense, they both lost the 'Will to Power' altogether, which is just to say they lost their ability to choose a path for their lives. Ironically, by becoming so powerful or rather, too powerful. KOTOR 2 had masterful writing.
Disney a few years ago: we are making a cannon kotor game with darth reven in the trailer Disney cancels it Disney: we canceled it because we believe no ones would like it and it was going to be a PlayStation exclusive
Darth Revan is what happens when a chosen one is distrusted by everyone else: Jedi didn't listen to him on the Mandalorian war, Sith betrayed him because they thought he was "too weak", and Both didn't believe in his idea of "resurrecting the Emperor to kill him permanently" only for someone else to resurrect him later. An unrecognized hero of his time with only a cult following spreading his name and teachings.
@@johannesseyfried7933 In fairness, he wanted to spawn-kill the emperor. He failed at starting the resurrection process, and the Vitiate resurrected himself anyway. He probably would have failed at actually killing the emperor after respawning him though.
Darth Traya, Meetra Surik, Cade Skywalker, Exar Kun, so many badasses that could print money for Disney but they're too stupid to dig into that gold mine
@@warrenmason1582 Or Arjunta Pall and his fellow original Dark Lords. The Sith Order has a long history of some o fit's greatest (or worst if you're one of their victims) coming from the ranks of the Jedi.
Revan was so powerful that it took the combined efforts of the Defacto leader of the Sith and the Grand Master of the Jedi, the later of whom being his direct descendent to take him down and even then, he would only die after he finally found peace with himself. What a way to end a life and the only way anyone can see him going out.
If you think Revan ghost stuff is crazy, there's a character in kotor 2 that is basically blown up into a thousand pieces but he keeps his body together through power of dark side and sheer unfiltered hatred.
Darth Sion or Darth Nihilus? One is to angry/in constant pain to die, and the other lost His body but refuses to non-exist... The funny thing is, where in one scene Sion attacked Nihilus. Sion died, then got better. Neither one can defeat the other! Sion cannot beat Nihilus's Froce Drain, and keeps dying, just to get back up. Nihilus can't kill Sion for good, only for a second or so. As Wounds in the Force, their signature Dark side powers were unmatched, and could only be bested by their piers OR by a selected few like 10-20-ish individuals in all of Star Wars...rey Palpatine is All the Jedi???? She would have bleed out and died on the spot, while Darth Nihilus would still only casually enter the planet's higher atmosphere on His capital spaceship.
@@aacm1259 I think so too. Revan knew the Force way better, then Nihilus. With a bit of research and time, Revan would figure out Force Wounds as well. He's the GOAT.
When I was 10 years old, playing the original KOTOR game on the classic Xbox, it blew my mind when 80% of the way through they hit you with the reveal - You are the mind-wiped Revan. The whole time you think you're getting these force visions cause you're just strong in the force and BAM, its actually just your memories coming back. Normally I'm a bit better about holding back this spoiler, but that video basically explained it considering the plot of the first Kotor game is teaming up with Bastilla to track down and destroy the star forge, all which is mentioned in the video. The whole game was made on a DnD system as well, so it still holds up today - as long as you can get it to run. Something that the guy who made this video skipped is that not only did he take out Mandalore (leader of the mandalorians) in the mandalorian wars, but during the Jedi Civil War, he teamed up with a guy name Canderous Ordo, who proceeded to become the new Mandalore.
It's a few steps removed from the D&D system, it's one filtered through the D20 era 1st and 2nd editions of the RPG, and a lot of people theorize it had some of the precursors of the 3rd version WotC did. And how WotC lost the license is due to Hasbro fuckery with things that screwed over their subsidiary. KotOR and KotOR 2 are both, currently, best played on the Switch in my opinion...though the developers did lie about how they were going to add the restored content mod to it at a later point
@@AzraelThanatos Yes and no. They wanted to, but then, y'know, it's kind of hard to just add a random person's mod to a licensed game, especially when the mod add/restores cut content that the original creators of the game made. You're talking layers upon layers of red tape. I got a feeling someone really really wanted to add it, but then said "..oh, no, we can't do that"
and that's the SHORT version of Revan's story. He's as synonymous with the old republic era as the skywalkers in the movie era. He's a Jedi, He's a Sith, He's a protagonist in some games, He's an antagonist in other games, he has multiple dungeons/raids dedicated to him, even an entire expansion of the mmo! he has a cult, they didn't even mention his cult! That time he got a planet blown up.... The dozens of named sith and Jedi he defeats... The fact that as a prisoner, he mentally influences the emperor into not going to war with the republic for decades. He's just got feats everywhere you look. Another fantastic guy to deep dive on is Starkiller, guy has some crazy force feats.
@@olafgurke4699 Indeed. One was raised by a Droid, who regularly beat the child, until the child learned to use the Force and destroyed the abusive nanny droid, then got taught by both Darth Vader and another droid, who was tasked to try and kill the child for real...The struggle was real. The other child was always taking stuff belonging to others, and learned to use the Force by Deus Ex Machina. From that point, that child never really struggled ever since, since the Force Gods (a.k.a. Writers) always got the child's back.
"Imagine a story with Revan as the main character." No need to imagine, because what this video shockingly didn't mention (unless it was at the very end after you stopped watching) is that Revan is literally who you play as in KOTOR, the game detailing the events after the Jedi wiped his memories, where the amnesiac Revan goes on his journey to take down Darth Malak. Furthermore, while future stories confirm that Revan "canonically" returned to the Light Side here, as the player you have the option to instead follow a darker path and experience an alternate story and ending where Revan becomes a full-blown Sith again. The game is great, so I'd recommend checking it out. (though you may wanna look into some of the recommended hotfix mods as well, because the vanilla experience can be pretty janky in this day and age)
7:12 Fun fact: After beating Mandalor the Ultimate in single combat, Revan hid his mask so a new Mandalore couldn’t be crowned. This is imported because the mask had belonged to Mandalorian rulers ever since Mandalore the great, the founder of Mandalore. To this day it remains lost and will continue to be since Disney refuses to recognize the expanded universe as canon.
Didn't he track it down and give it to his bro Canderous? I specifically remember Kotor2 having Canderous in it, but he goes by Mandalore now and in-game he can't take his armor (including his helmet) off so it is missed by some people.
@@m05513 Just looked it up on Wookieepedia (which I am aware is under scrutiny due to recent events) and it yeah, you were right. Revan gave it to Canderous to reunite the Mandalorians.
@@JRock2007 You aren't wrong, just after the events of Kotor 1, Revan and Canderous return to Rekkiad, where he retrieves the mask and gives it to Canderous. Canderous goes on to be known as Mandalore the Preserver, and sets to rebuilding the Mandalorian clans in the hope they will be prepared for the eventual sith empire's invasion. Too bad it takes 300 years to happen and the mandalorians side with the very people that manipulated them like puppets in the first place, instead of the republic that they were reformed to protect.
In the Book titled "Revan" Revan tracks the mask down and gives it to his Mandalorian friend/party memeber, Canderous Ordo, who becomes Mandalore the Preserver. The Darksaber being the sign of Mandalore's Ruler is dizni BS! Find the damn Helmet and put it on! I won1t recognize anyone as Mandalore, without the helmet! The Darksaber is cool on it's own, yeah...but overrated and overblown at this point. It's dizni lore and shallow at best.
What Variant doesnt tell you, is that while being tortured Revan was actually able to mentally manipulate the emporer into not attacking the Republic for decades/centuries so that Bastilla and his kid could live in relative peace.
Filled the Sith Emperor's minds with insecurity and doubts. GOAT act of Revan #875966272727553. : Revan led Vitiate by His nose for hundreds of years while being the Sith's prisoner and being tortured and kept alive 24/7...
Nux if you see this I suggest watching the Philosophy of Kreia. It’s like an hour and a half video that goes into Regan’s master, who was more important in the sequel game. She’s pretty interesting but was held back by her game
Kreia is a good example on how to write an excellent female character that is going to stand out. That video is showcasing how complex she is. But hey, we got the power of many now.
The whole quote about "peace is a lie" is the Sith Code; "Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion I gain strength, Through strength I gain power, Through power I gain victory, Through victory my chains are broken"
Both the Sith Code and the Jedi Code were introduced in KotOR 1. Even George knew that shizz was top tier stuff! Allegedly, G.Lucas only changed a few things in KotOR, like less then 1% stuff, it was so flawless lore/story wise.
@@killereye The Jedi and Sith Codes were codified before that, there's also the revision of the Jedi Code that happens during the entire mess with the back to back Sith Wars from the Tales of the Jedi comics (Not counting Golden Age which was something that happened far earlier).
@@AzraelThanatos It may be so or not. I cannot confirm this info really. Every source I know (included playing KotOR 1-2 at the time they were out) mentions KotOR as most known source. That game made it the most famous to all, including to myself. Then again, I don't know all, soooo... :3
@@AzraelThanatos Tales of the Jedi (2022) was made by dizni so no wonder I don't know of that...everything dizni makes in recent years is no SW to me! I may not know the true source correctly, but KotOR undeniably made the Codes known to me, and everyone and every source I know. I reject dizni stuff, cuz dizni doesn't gives SW repect. Without Respect, We Reject!
@@killereye There's the old Tales of the Jedi comics that a lot of the KotOR stuff was based on...such as Bastilla, originally, was intended to be a Sunrider, but that got changed during it. The comics were published from 1993-1998...
Satele Shan, the Jedi Grandmaster who teamed up with Sith to beat him, is his Great Grand Daughter(like 5 Greats If I remember right). So it was a family fight. The video says when Revan was captured by the emperor that it was "years" but it was LONG time for Satele to be around. Revan was born in 3994 BBY and Satele in 3699 BBY. So almost 300 years apart. In KOTOR 2 you find out Revan was already missing and Bastilla, his wife and female lead of KOTOR 1, was already looking for him. Their kids were not older than teenagers when she left to look for him and she never finds him.
there are 6 known Shan descendants of Revan and Bastila.. their son Vaner Shan (b. 3954 BBY) Vaner's son Bress and daughter Reesa (b. shortly before 3900 BBY) Satele's mother Tasiele Shan Satele Shan Theron Shan (Satele's son) given its 300 years between KOTOR 1/2 and SWTOR then Satele is somewhere between their Great Great and Great x4 Granddaughter, the missing link(s) are 1. which Grandchild (Bress or Reesa) was the Ancestor of Satele 2. how many Shan's are missing from the known family tree you also can't go by Surname because every descendant apart from Vaner and Theron were Jedi and the Shan family has always been Matriarchal (including the female members and children always keeping/taking the surname Shan)
6:19 “I don’t know your name, but I’ll take up your cause. Never again shall I remove your mask, until all Mandalorians are defeated once and for all. So swears… REVAN!”
17:29 Gotta love the "Sith Backhand Lightsaber to the Jaw"-move being an equivalent of a Dark Side Pimpslap from Daddy Darth Revan! The not-impressed head shake after was the toping! You were NOT READY, Darth Malak! You never were...
3:20 Darth Traya or simply Kreia is someone you should most definitively do a deep dive on. Her philosophy is so unique among both the jedi and the sith, it's actually insane how well written and well defined she was. It's probably the first time a character made everyone question both orders so much, that perhaps they are both missguided. I really do recommend "Philosophy of Kreia: A critical examination of Star Wars", as it goes pretty deep into each side's views.
It's important to note that Vitiate didn't just torture Revan for a couple years, he tortured him for 300. The old Republic MMO takes place a little over 300 years after Knights of the old Republic. During this time both of their minds were linked and even while being tortured, Revan influence the emperor and stalled his invasion of the Republic for 3 centuries.
Revan was a character that arguibly came the closest to understanding the Force in full. Having a perspective from both the Light and Dark side and maintaining a Grey outlook. He was legitimately an amazing character and is the one piece of content fans won't let Disney ruin
I've found perfect sumarise of Acolyte: "They managed to make cosmic lesbian witches unappealing to male viewers in 15/60 yo range. I have no idea how."
@Nuxanor Fun fact Nux... The force vision Revan saw of the Mandalorian massacre, one Mandalorian woman was against the slaughter of civilians. She spoke out against it, and fought the Mandalorian army because she knew it was wrong, and dishonorable to kill Civilians.... She died with the Civilians, hence why Revan picked up and wore the mask. To carry on what she started. (It's also why it wasn't a *complete* Mandalorian Genocide when he ended the Mandalorian war)
18:45 even better, in Knights of the Old Republic, where Revan’s story began, Malak’s tongue was still at the top of his mouth and flapped a little when he talked.
So glad someone recommended him the GOAT of the Old Republic. It's only a matter of time until he learns more of the Old Republic lore. Keep them coming!
This guy literally made Revan sound like twice less cool than he actually was and that was while trying to hype him up. Also even though latter half of Revan's story is from questionably written Bioware MMO, Revan did not want to ressurect Tenebrae just to kill him again, he knew that if he DOESNT do that, Tenebrae will return eventually so he will not be truly dead unless Revan ends him for good, and reviving him was the only way. Which was later confirmed.
A lot of that can also be taken as an issue with the medium, you're not actually getting a lot of Revan's thoughts and information which the players would have never encountered there. Unfortunately, with the end of a lot of the old agreements with Lucasfilms/LucasArts ending due to Disney, there isn't that much of the expanded lore that they can actually do anything with.
Nux should definitely cover Kreia/Darth Treya. She is IMO, the best written mentor in Star Wars. He might even enjoy her fourth wall breaks. Edit: In case no one linked it here. ruclips.net/video/-Z0S0Z8lUTg/видео.htmlsi=FGvDl-DSsmoGYBUg
@@smokeythieff and Revan's 3rd in Command of the Republic Forces in the Mandalorian War, you can't talk about Darth Treya or Darth Nihilus and not talk about her, the Jedi that cut themselves off from the force.
I gotta say.....This is the "new" story of Revan after the old republic game came out. Nux should witness the insanity that was the original Knights of the old republic story, in which Revan didn't get manipulated to become Sith. He chose the dark side and fricked up the republic because he saw an enormous threat in the outer rim, and he was sure only with the republic crushed under his rule he could save the galaxy. Old Star Wars was insane man.
Both lore about Revan's Fall matches each other a bit: Revan was corrupted by the Sith Eperor OR He choose the Dark Side, but NEVER FELL! The beauty in both version is, that it's uncertain what happened, but Darth Revan returning from the Outer Rim and His story is History. You can choose why Revan became Darth Revan, because it's as good of a rumour as any/the other. I too choose to think, that Revan willingly choose the Dark Side, not to destroy the Republic, but to overthrow it and prepare it for the great threat, that is Vitiate. But I could easily picture, that Revan was summoned by the Sith Emperor and got a major dose of dark side corruption for shits and giggles, and Revan simply...got better from it.
And now you scratch the very surface of the Old Republic setting, and begin to understand why the hard-core fans are so pissed about Disney's management.
Satele Shan, the Jedi who helped beat him, was Revan’s own descendant. Revan wanted to teach the Jedi his knowledge of both the Light Side & the Dark Side. The Jedi Council at the time promoted him to Master & allowed his marriage to Bastila as long as he kept his teachings to himself.
Darth Bane had a ton of great moments in his trilogy books, but my favorite one was, after He learned that the meaning of the title "Darth" is a challenge to others to take away your power/life, then finds Darth Revan's holocron, and goes back to the Sith Academy, and the teachers greet Him: "Welcome back, Lord Bane! We forgive your disrespectful leave and absence. You have now returned to us, ready to admit your foolishness and rejoin the Sith Army and the war against the Jedi..." And Bane just said: "NO! I am not here to rejoin the academy nor the army! I am here to say my farewells. And my name is...DARTH BANE!" He then turned and left, and EVERYONE was scared SITHless (pun intended) or thought that Lord Bane was a fool, but they didn't crossed His way/was let go unchallenged. Nobody attacked him, and He was let go...just to return and do a cheeky "Rule of 2" on them in the War! >XD My name is...DARTH BANE!" was such a cool statement. Most students and Sith Lords were too uneducated to know what "Darth" means, and those few teachers who knew were not thinking on Bane highly to care...We all know what happened to all of them in the end! Darth Bane for the win! >:3
Bane is literally why the Sith are a shell of their former selves from this time period. His stupid rule of two is why Starkiller can never be canon and why Palpatine was a total idiot with Anakin.
@@zigslotheon 1. The rule fixed a lot of the problems they had, and for the record Palpatine is supposed to be the most powerful sith so the rule did work. 2. Starkiller is basically Vader's Maul, the only thing stopping his existence is the timeline and his power level And what do you mean Palpatine was an idiot?
@@Vivianthuy-mn9jd "Palpatine is supposed to be the most powerful Sith" Only within the context of Lucas' work. You need to spend more time reading what Lucas actually said rather than just online talking points by power scalers who's agenda is just to make their favorite character seem like the strongest. Lucas made no consideration for or against the works of other authors who wrote in the EU bubble - to him those were just fanfiction that he got paid for, so he let other people do whatever the hell they wanted and completely disregarded what they wrote. In his own words, Lucas told people that they needed to consider EU works as separate universes and not part of his own work. Palpatine being on par with some of the true monsters of the setting, like Sadow or Tenebrae, would completely ruin his character and the entire story of the original 6 movies, since him being that powerful creates a TON of plot holes in the movies that just can't be reconciled. This is also a problem that some of the earlier EU works that involve Palpatine have - Dark Empire being the most notable. If they're canon, they break the movies - especially the prequels. This is also why you shouldn't take a lot of the side material that hype Vader seriously. If they're accurate, they break the movies just as badly as the sequel trilogy does.
Sad rumor: dizni wanted Revan to be a female, after taking the mask off. While it works in a game setting, the canon is that Revan is a male, and the books are there, so dizni can't edit that fact, like they did Jedi Master KAM dirty in the blAcKolyte!
Yeah he left out that Revan was tortured for 300 years he never got to see his pregnant wife again or his friends and 300 years later was killed by his great grand daughter of 300 years he is one of the best characters ever made
That video with Malak was so cool. The only thing I couldn't believe about it was him saying, "request a transfer if you must." Personally, I think Malak would've force-choked the admiral (?), pulled him face-to-face, said all that other stuff, but ended it with, "you will follow these orders or I will find someone who will." But maybe that's why Malak was always #2.
I couldn't picture Darth Malak saying those things at all. It was PG13 or something. "You will follow these orders or die!" That's the casual Sith way of keeping your lower ranked subordinates in check! Darth Malak was always #2...Imagine questioning an order from Darth Revan! Impossiburu!
@@MsSilentGaming I know that, and still I think he is a goat. In that sense he is like Palpatine (more like Palpatine got inspired by), he is not as strong on its own initially, but with patience and wits he becomes powerful and feared. Through rituals absorbing the power of a 1000sith and the energy of a whole planet he became powerful in the force, through body swaping he became inmortal, by hiding himself with body swaping he controlled and united the Sith far longer than anybody in Star Wars history. Almost becomes a god by performing the initial ritual on a galactic scale. Fails and gets defeated later on, to bodyswap to create another Empire that beats the Sith Empire and Republic at once. He is not a Revan, nor Malgus, not a Nihilus either. He is a clever and patient schemer that got to the top, built empires, creates servants and apprentices through manipulation.
@@MsSilentGamingsee but Vitiate ain't Vitiate my dude. Before he was Vitiate..he was well I forgot his name but he was Him. And ate his own civilization. I think even planet. This dude puts Father from Full Metal Alchemist to shame
@@thedappermagician6905 Like i said, he is Tenebrae, he devoured a thousand Sith Lords by tricking them into a ritual after their defeat with Naga Sadow by the republic, he's a pussy compared to Revan, Bane, Tulak Hord etc.
Not at the same time tho'. At any given time it's either Anakin Skywalker or Darth Vader. Revan was a master of both sides of the Force. He wasn't Jedi nor Sith, but more. A Force User. His Force Talents were similar to that of The Father's, who kept the Daughter and Son in check. I could see Revan being the Balance of the Force. He got the talent and the experience AND is both DS and LS at the same time.
@@killereye true, he was very capable in both light and dark side force techniques. But he was still aligned with either the Jedi or the Sith throughout most of his life. He isn't the only one who used abilities that utilized the other side, of course. Vapaad also does that.
@@macewindu3492 Hehehe! I always believed, and most likely it's the truth, that Samuel L. Jackson just wanted to be a Bad MFer in the movie...And He was! It stands on His lightsaber - it's canon!!! He wanted to be a good Jedi, powerful, but not afraid of battle, and even enjoying it. Mace Windu is a light Gary Stu, but a well written one! And Him inventing Vapaad is truly a great feat. I am 100% okay with Jedi Master Mace Windu!
Aboleth is another Must-know lore of good Star Wars! If dizni wants us to fear strong women...Aboleth is right there. 99.9999999999999% of the Star Wars universe fears Aboleth! I would just go into hyperspace and won't come out ever again, if She was escaping from the Black hole cluster called The MAW! I don't think there is any way to escape from Aboleth. Best thing you can hope for, that She doesn't gets to be aware of your existence, and leaves alone the planet/system you are in. Strong Whamen, dizni? Naaaaaaah! I sleep! / Aboleth. I FEAR!
Nux, something else to consider that highlights how badass Revan is. The mask was made for a mandalorian, and originally mandalorians were an alien race. So he's fighting with a mask that wasnt precisely made with human anatomy or eyes in mind.
The fact the sith creed allows you to be a normal average civilian as well as a evil tyrant is what gets me. Also please please please let starkiller deep dive happen
I know there like two sith who where like this Ones owned a mine and a actually had very good health care and shut down a mine when his workers would get hurt and injured. And the guy died old with his family by him in. His finally breath.
21:30 Darth Sion from KOTOR 2 had that power you fought him several times in the game but he just gets back up after willing himself together with the force. It's only after a psychology session with the main character that he learns to let go of his anger and dies.
I am loving watching Nux learn some deep lore of Star Wars "Legends," and personally I would love to see more. From the Rakata, the Pius Deia era, and Valkorium/Vitiate, to Luke's Jedi Order, the Yuuzahn Vong and Abeloth.
@@lukescrew1981 Me too. She was seriously trying to fight the Sith Triumvirate. She had the most hate for them. Not very Jedi-like, so...Based! 😀 Had a cool design and a harem too...
I re-downloaded KOTOR a few days ago. Revan is truly the GOAT, and I love how they made his relationship with Bastila canon in that part of the lore. The fact that Satele, his Jedi decendent in TOR, worked with the Sith to fight HIM, and ended up with Jace (the trooper who helped her fight Malgus on Alderaan) brings me joy. Love isn't a hinderance the Jedi think it is, it can be a source of strength. Obsession is what the Jedi should really dislike. I side with the Grey Jedi 💯.
From my memory, they didn't retrain revan because they thought he was the only one who could beat Malak. It was because they were hoping to access his memories to follow the path revan and Malak followed and find out how they built a giant fleet so quickly and to find out what happened to them while they were away. They only find the star forge, then revan goes searching for the sith emperor on his own. And definitely check out Darth Bane. Love that series.
19:18 There was also the issue with the Star Forge, it was the primary force behind Revan's military might but no one knew where it was, so they mind wiped Revan then sent him out hoping he would retrace his own steps and lead the Jedi to the Star Forge.
For the mask, there is also the version where he took the mask of a mandalorian who was executed... because she protested against the civilian massacre. also there mandalorian survivbor at the end of the war and canderous Ordo followed and teamed up with revan when he lost his memories and restored the mandalorian after quitting revan as mandalorian the restorer.
'In the warp a giant stirred; an image flickered through a mind larger than a nebula. The sleep of Gork was troubled. In his dreams he wore a metal body and led his children to victory. The dream lasted a brief instant of long eternity, something about it caused Gork to smile but not to rouse. In the warp Mork too was disturbed. He dreamed of war spreading like a green stain across the galaxy. He saw billions of his children following giant warmachines built in his crude image on a great crusade. He found the dream good. And slowly his vast mind moved towards wakefulness. Gork and Mork stirred. Their dreams reached out and touched the dreams of their people. A billion Orks turned in their sleep; suddenly, inexplicably infected by scenes of slaughter and reaving, plunder and the taking of worlds. When they awoke they looked on their surroundings and found them dull. Gork struggled towards awareness. After centuries of dormancy it was a long process. He sensed other Powers in the warp trying to interfere. He blocked a subtle tendril from Slaanesh, ignored a baleful warning from the Emperor, discounted the triumphant cry of Khorne. He reached out with his millennia-old mind and gathered the strength of his people. Soon he would be awake and active. A body of steel had been prepared for him. A time of blood and iron was approaching. As Mork gathered strength many a Warboss found himself afflicted with thoughts of power. Ancient ambitions were re-kindled. Long vanished thoughts of conquest stirred in the recesses of slow minds. They planned raids on nearby Humans and toyed with thoughts of alliances with old rivals. Not even great soul-searching could explain why this was so. The Ancient Powers knew what was happening, though. The Waa-Ork was coming. Gork and Mork stirred and a wave of fear passed through the warp. Suicide and incidence of violent crime climbed steeply. On Icolbar an Astropath screamed and threw himself from the balcony of a starscraper apartment, yelling that his people were doomed. On the craft-world Hope of Other Days, an Eldar philosopher stopped listening to the atonal music of his water-chimes and began composing his death-haiku, feeling his life had been justified. On distant Earth, a living corpse in a golden throne opened eyes that held fear for the first time in centuries. Gork felt his attention being tugged towards one tiny world on the edge of Orkdom. A strange attraction drew him to it. He leaned down from warpspace and looked upon it. His breath brought storms in the Ash Desert. His gaze caused machines to break down. His lightest tread brought earthquakes. Seeing the disruption he was causing among his people he withdrew. He knew the time was not yet right for his return. He withdrew but he left a message. Mork moved on the face of the warp, brushing aside Daemons and ignoring ancient barriers set by long dead Gods. He moved from world to world and placed in the heart of every Ork the desire to be restless, to move, to follow the siren call of adventure when it came. He sensed other Powers subtly striving to oppose him and laughed as their attempts to restrain his crude, irresistible purpose. The Emperor knew that he must save his people. If Gork and Mork unleashed their hordes then any unprepared worlds would be swept aside by a green tide of death The Emperor bent his thoughts to the task. Across Human space, within the range of the Astronomicon, Imperial Tarot began to foretell disaster. Commanders consulting them found all the signs of impending catastrophe on a cosmic scale. In the Segmentum Obscura, Battlefleets were recalled and prepared for war. On the homeworlds of the Adeptus Astartes, Space Marines reached for their weapons, knowing their time of destiny was near. On the edges of the Eye Of Terror, the Orders of the Adeptus Titanicus roused their ancient war-machines. Having surveyed his Empire and seen it was ready the dying immortal within the Golden Throne prepared himself for the conflict to come. Gork and Mork knew that they were ready. Their people were agitated and prepared for battle The Emperor, their chosen enemy, had deployed his forces. The first skirmishes had been fought, now war was about to be joined. Beyond them they sensed the Chaos Powers watching, waiting to see what advantage the God-brothers' actions might bring them. In the darkest pits of creation twisted creatures prepared to follow the Orks' advance. Gork and Mork did not care. They knew they were strong enough to resist Chaos. The time was right. The time was now. It was time for Gork and Mork to have some fun. In the Warp Gork and Mork waited, well pleased. Across the face of a million worlds their children were on the move, a green tide that would topple empires and re-shape the Universe. The Waa-Ork was on the move.' I will post this on all of your videos until you watch Baldemort's: The Secret History of the Orks.
Nuxanor/Nux Taku you have taken three deep dives into Star Wars lore. So by the power of the Father, Son, and Daughter you are now known as Darth Nux Taku and an official Star Wars fan
0:42 wait till you see Darth Sion. The man was literally so angry he held his body together with sheer hatred and anger. A literal force zombie pretty much, he is just scraps held together. 3:20 bro, look into her, she is nuts.
To clarify on the mandalorians; Revan didn't wipe out the Mandalorians, but they had a clan structure and were only unified when a strong leader had Mandalore's Mask, a spiritual and cultural symbol. Rather than a full combat, Revan focused on taking out Mandalore The Ultimate and then hiding the mask, ensuring that any reunification of the Mandalorians would only be viable through long term civil war. Very much a head of the snake strategy. And they respected him because the Klingons wish they were as hardcore about a warrior culture as the Mandalorians were.
Revan and his Jedi Crusaders caused a complete shift in Mandalorian tactical and strategic evolution over the centuries. They viewed the "Jetii" sorcerers as the most dangerous of foes, and focused on finding ways to combat them. Building weapons directly into their armor so they couldn't be disarmed by the Force, using area of effect weapons like flamethrowers and explosives that couldn't be deflected by a lightsaber, using jetpacks to enhance their mobility to keep up with the superhuman feats of a force user. They would even use slug-throwers, a rare weapon in Star Wars due to how effective blasters are, if they knew for a fact they were going to fight a Jedi, since the metal projectile would turn into dangerous slag if intercepted by a lightsaber. As time went on, especailly during the High Republic and after, a lot of the reasoning behind those choices faded and it just became 'normal' to the Mandalorians, but they would still tell stories of the Jetii of the Republic, often exagerrated though. During The Old Republic video game, the Mandalorians are allied with the Sith Empire, and the Sith are too arrogant to realize its an insult. The Mandos see the Jedi as more worthy opponents than Sith, so allied with the Sith in order to have an easier time finding and fighting Jedi.
So...Revan uses a mask he never takes off, was wronged by a Dark Lord and by people he trusted, literally planned to resurrect the Dark Lord to KILL him and is literally too angry to die. ...goddamnit, Revan is the freaking DOOM SLAYER!
@6:35 Another thing you'll notice about later Sith is that they also take to wearing similar masks, that's them paying homage to Darth Revan. @19:31 The dark lords that had the most impact on the history and lineage of the Sith are, in my opinion; Darth Vitiate (Valkorion), Exar Kun, Darth Revan, and Darth Bane. There's plenty of really awesome Sith before, between, and after them, but to me those four had the longest lasting impacts on not just Sith tradition, but on the galaxy itself.
Another thing to note about this is that much of this story happened as the MMORPG Star Wars: The Old Republic released more expansions. Satele Shan, mentioned in the video, defeated the ghost of Revan in her lifetime as an adult, but she is actually the descendant of Revan and Bastila and was born about 300 years after Revan was born. Where does all this time go? It's been a while since I read the Revan books, but before the Knights of the Fallen Empire stuff came out, The Emperor was not yet known as Vitiate, simply being known as the Emperor of the Sith. From what I remember during this period, when Revan went to challenge the Emperor, he returned as a master of both the light and dark side of the force and used both in combat, being the first (chronologically) Jedi to master both sides, the next being Luke. They fought again, where the Emperor attempted to use the force to convert Revan again to the dark side, though Revan resisted for over 300 years, delaying the war between the Jedi and Sith from happening, being stuck in a protracted psychological force battle where he would not be broken. During this time, Meetra Surik, who is the protagonist of KotOR 2, comes in to rescue him, though I don't recall exactly what happens. I believe she fails to save Revan, though possibly she dies here, and potentially Revan does too, or continues fighting and dies later. I can't find the original references that contained this information, since I don't have the novel and the Wiki pages now have information about Vitiate which is different from what I read back in the day, though basically, there exists in book form out there the battle between Revan and Vitiate. Instead of Revan simply being taken down by the other Sith there like some extra, Revan managed to delay the galaxy-wide war singlehandedly. There's more out there, and I just felt like commenting because I felt like the video didn't do Revan enough justice in his final battle. I mean come on, the dude held on for centuries. There are likely some errors here, and if anyone could find references in novels or from a wiki, sourced corrections would be appreciated.
"Imagine a story with Revan as the main character."
Ahem...'Knights of the Old Republic 1', my dude.
And the remake
Oh wait Disney canceled the idea
I remember seeing the trailer for it
Was kinda disappointed when it was a PlayStation exclusive but they cancelled it because they thought no one would like it
@@silverbloodborne9495 They have cancelled the cancellation again...I don't even know what to think about the KotOR Remake now. 😕
@@killereyei love the “cancelled the cancellation”
@@lsthero5863 At this point, the most accurate state of the Kotor Remake is: It's done, when it's done. 😕
@@silverbloodborne9495 good, dont need them to destroy another character for equality lol
Revan didn't genocide the Mandalorians. He didn't slaughter their civilians or seek to destroy their culture. He out fought them and beat them at their own game. That's why they respected him.
"It was what we wanted all along, in a way. We wanted to fight the best in a battle that would be remembered for centuries. And we did." - Canderous Ordo, Mandalore the Preserver, discussing his people's defeat at the hands of Revan.
>He didn't slaughter their civilians or seek to destroy their culture.
Before the split, there were no civilians. Following the mando'a was the culture, and that meant that every Mandalorian was a combatant.
But it's just a slight nitpick.
@@NegaBot This was the time of the Neo-Crusaders, who had a more formal military hierarchy and organization than the traditional clans of the Mando'ade. Mandolorians not organized into the crusading forces would not have come under attack from Republics forces, not unless a terrible mistake was made or they engaged in opportunistic raiding.
@@theodoremccarthy4438 Which they most likely did. War has no rules when the bullets start flying after all.
Revin stole the helmet of Mandalor which was the figurehead of the culture of mandalorians. With that lost the main uniting purpose of the mandalorians desolved and their culture slowly waned away.
Didnt he blow up their homeworld? That seems like genocide to me.
Me: “Have you ever heard of Darth Revan the Based?”
Nux: “No.”
Me: “I thought not, it's not a story Disney would tell you.”
Top tier comment.
Darth Revan the Based is amazing ngl
It’s also based so Nux runs and cowers.
Is it possible to resurrect this timeline?
Not by Disney...
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH! Outstanding!
The full story of the helmet is that Revan witnessed a Mandalorian woman intercede to stop her commander from killing defeated enemies and he not only ignored her but killed her too.
Revan actually had conflicting feelings about the Mandalorians. He knew they had honour in their culture despite their brutality, and he wore her mask as a sign of respect more than an own.
Cant possibly be true, she sounds like a strong female character- which didn't exist until our lord and savior kk
There are still a lot of theories that Revan was born a mandalorian as well...an orphan from the war with Exar Kun, which adds even more there
@@BreMue To a lot of gamers Reven IS a strong female character xD
6:35 Revan chose that helmet to honour the particular Mandalorian warrior whose helmet is was. She objected to the genocide of the Cathar people by the rest of the Mandos and was executed alongside them. Revan saw what happened in a vision when he picked her helmet up.
Yea, that recap is garbage, omited all of the good details that give depth and sense to the story.
@@TheObscuran Nux should watch the official timeline videos made by Bioware instead of this stuff.
I hope Nux reads some comments on this one for all the extra lore tidbits
@@drakenraugh1841 Same. Actually that reminds me, I will link the Old Republic official timeline compilation in the comments.
@@tk-6967 Alternatively, since he's more than just dipping his toes in now, read the original comics (in his down time)! ^_^ Plenty of sources out there for that now. >_
Revan also called out the Jedi for not allowing love, arguing that it strengthens their connection to the force through others. That love is not a weakness or a risk, that moderation is what should be taught, not complete abstaination or complete loss of control/passion.
Revan just Bindoed the Council.
"Imagine a story with Revan as the main character" is such a funny thing to hear.
I mean.. there is this game called KOTOR that really helps with that imagination!
@@LontEnCaras Yeah the two KOTOR games are fucking fire even for titles on the original Xbox
@@The_Blue_Otakuthose games were fire no matter what you played them on. I remember playing the shit out of kotor on a trashy tablet whenever I got downtime at work.
@@restitvtororbis5330 Yeah I had KOTOR 2 on my OG Xbox it was fun as hell to play... then a few years back my mom lent my Xbox and all my games to a friend of her's, the cunt "lost" them and then they had a falling out
Amnesiac Revan ≠ Revan
Nux: "How do you get exiled from the Jedi and then from the Sith?"
Kreia: "Because I Hate The Force. I hate that it seems to have a will, that it would control us to achieve some matter of balance, when countless lives are lost!"
Nux needs to to look up the Philosophy of Kreia vids.
If Darth (Dark) Revan was based, Nux never seen Old Lady Kreia/Darth Traya. She's the Incarnation of being Based! And She does it in a glorious ways. Every time the Exile did good or bad, Kreia scolded Her, and I was like "Not now, Mom!"...Couldn't satisfy Her no matter what I choose, and it was glorious.
The GOAT doesnt even begin to cover the amazing character that is Darth Revan.
Like hes entire story can be a trilogy, first movie, his origins, the war and his fall to the darkside, second movie the civil war, being betrayed by malak and coming back to the light, third movie the rest.
No Darth Revan with out The Emperor. Swtor and kotor are so godly. We won't discuss kotor 2
Eh, SWTOR really overdid it.
@@zerolsr2228 KOTOTR 2 is so well written, wdym?
Though it doesn't have much to do with Revan, compared to KOTOR 1.
@@ediblemussel532 The commentary on offer by Kreia, the person whose opinion on Revan matters most, has a lot to do with Revan as a concept and how we ought to view him and what he did.
"Savior, conqueror, hero, villain. You are all things, Revan… and yet you are nothing. In the end, you belong to neither the light nor the darkness. You will forever stand alone." -Darth Malak to Revan
"Is (a monster) what Revan was? Or was he always true to himself no matter what personality he wore? And there is something that the Council may never understand. That perhaps Revan never fell. The difference between a fall and a sacrifice is sometimes difficult, but I feel that Revan understood that difference, more than anyone knew. The galaxy would have fallen if Revan had not gone to war. Perhaps he became the dark lord out of necessity, to prevent a greater evil." -Kreia
that is one of the best lines of Kreia in a game of amazing lines
For some reason it's never stated, but Revan and Bastila Shan had kids, Satele Shan, who you see in the Old Republic cinematics and uses the double bladed lightsaber is part of that lineage.
yep and her son Theron Shan is a top agent in the Republic Strategic Information Service (Republic Spy's/Black ops) at the same time his mother Satele is the Jedi Grandmaster.
*edit* it was also 1 son called Vaner, who had a son and a daughter
Star wars didn't insult it's viewers intelligence that then and figured people would get it by the last name
Satele Shan is not their daughter its their so many greats granddaughter
@@GrievousReborn not too many greats. It's 300 years between Satele and Revan
@@GrievousReborn no one in this thread said Satele was their daughter, and the OP said lineage which is the entire family tree (parents, children, grandchildren, great grandchildren etc. etc.)
Any "Legends" story from Star Wars are so good, they could easily be summed up with this one sentence.
"*Insert Legends plot here*, And Disney gave us the Acolyte."
"He's The GOAT." You're goddamn right
I never thought they could actually recreate a "I am your father" moment in any SW let alone a game. But that moment in the original KOTOR when you see Revan in the flashback take off the helmet and its the player... That had me jumping up and down.
Everyone did. What a time to be alive! No wonder KotOR (1-2) were praised by no end. Gameplay was not for everybody, but the lore/story/characters were Top Tier.
Ah, Darth Revan. The only Dark Lord of the Sith NOT to fall to the darkside.
Well until Bioware retconned it because they were petty that Obsidian made a better character than them
@@connorharnage6697shhhh, we don’t count that…
There's a difference between "falling" to the dark side and taking the plunge, knowing what needs to be sacrificed in order to complete your objectives.
Didn't really fall so much as recognize one needed to use all aspects of the force not strictly light or dark. One who is truly in balance can utilize both sides without succumbing to the extremes of either.
Darth Vectivus: Am I a joke to you?
He’s not the only one to reach the level “Too angry to Die”. There is Darth Sion, who kept coming back, his corpse would keep pulling itself back together and get back up.
It was more like the constant pain and how that fuelled the Dark Side Wound power of His, as Darth Sion was the Lord of Pain...But put it simple, yup. “Too angry to Die”...
@@killereye Well, I always remember when he spoke it was fueled by anger and hatred. I just remembered there were others that literally kept themselves alive with their raw emotions. It is how Maul and Vader survived until they could get proper medical attention.
@@movespammerguyteam7colors Pain is a Raw Emotion, and it doesn't lie! Sion's emotional pain and petty is a form of Anger maybe...I choose to think, He's unkillable cuz His title is the Lord of Pain. While dizni SW is trash, in EP7 Kylo hit his wounds, causing pain (and anger) to fire himself up against rey skinwalker...
Well sure, but Sion and Nihilus represent the ironies of their respective god-like abilities: all-powerful will and all-powerful destruction. After achieving these they became slaves to them since now their lives were dependent upon feeding their respective power, which is precisely why Kreia said that their powers had made them not just weak, but slaves.
Sion became invulnerable and can withstand anything. But he can't ever let his guard down or become vulnerable at all, lest he die. So now that invulnerability protects nothing other than itself. Sion is a shell holding on to immortality for the shear sake of it. Yet he claims it's his power.
Nihilus can destroy anyone and anything. But he can never stop lest he die. So now nothing can stand in his way, but his hunger forces him to put obstacles (food) in his way. So it does nothing but perpetuate itself. Yet he claims it's his power.
In the Nietzschean sense, they both lost the 'Will to Power' altogether, which is just to say they lost their ability to choose a path for their lives. Ironically, by becoming so powerful or rather, too powerful.
KOTOR 2 had masterful writing.
Our guy Nux will get his mind cooked when he will discover "Philosophy of Kreya" or "Grimdark story of Star Wars"
Ah, I see. You are a person of Culture as well!
true, Nux would probably like the Kreya video
Oh god the philosophy of Kreia goes so hard, I used to binge that every now and then when I commute to work.
I've been waiting YEARS for this to happen and now it might become a reality. Apathy is death...
@@JayJustVibin this. I listen to this on long drives. It's just so damn cool.
"Imagine a story with revan as the main character" well let me tell you about a game called kotor
This exists and Disney is forcing the Acolyte down our throats, we are in the wrong timeline
We are in the evil timeline! Comunity was right!!
To be honest even if we were in a better timeline I wouldn't trust disney to get it right lol
Disney a few years ago: we are making a cannon kotor game with darth reven in the trailer
Disney cancels it
Disney: we canceled it because we believe no ones would like it and it was going to be a PlayStation exclusive
Be glad Disney hasn't touched this with their greasy disease ridden nurgle hands.
@@silverbloodborne9495WHAT?
Darth Revan is what happens when a chosen one is distrusted by everyone else: Jedi didn't listen to him on the Mandalorian war, Sith betrayed him because they thought he was "too weak", and Both didn't believe in his idea of "resurrecting the Emperor to kill him permanently" only for someone else to resurrect him later.
An unrecognized hero of his time with only a cult following spreading his name and teachings.
The Revanchist
I mean, wanting to ressurect the Sith Emperor IS pretty goddamn dangerous.
@@johannesseyfried7933 In fairness, he wanted to spawn-kill the emperor. He failed at starting the resurrection process, and the Vitiate resurrected himself anyway.
He probably would have failed at actually killing the emperor after respawning him though.
Dude.. if you think Darth Revan was crazy for being both jedi and sith then your brain will explode if you dig into Darth Treya or Darth Krayte.
Or exar kun and ulic qel droma
Ik he's from the same timeline as revan, but darth nihilus was pretty insane too.
Darth Traya, Meetra Surik, Cade Skywalker, Exar Kun, so many badasses that could print money for Disney but they're too stupid to dig into that gold mine
Patience - all in good time
@@warrenmason1582 Or Arjunta Pall and his fellow original Dark Lords. The Sith Order has a long history of some o fit's greatest (or worst if you're one of their victims) coming from the ranks of the Jedi.
Revan was so powerful that it took the combined efforts of the Defacto leader of the Sith and the Grand Master of the Jedi, the later of whom being his direct descendent to take him down and even then, he would only die after he finally found peace with himself. What a way to end a life and the only way anyone can see him going out.
Yo if anakin is star wars jesus i'd say revan is the stars wars equivalent of king david
That is a fair comparison.
Decent analogy
Moses would probably be a more apt comparison.
Nah King Solomon the Sorcerer who tamed Demons
If you think Revan ghost stuff is crazy, there's a character in kotor 2 that is basically blown up into a thousand pieces but he keeps his body together through power of dark side and sheer unfiltered hatred.
Darth Sion or Darth Nihilus? One is to angry/in constant pain to die, and the other lost His body but refuses to non-exist...
The funny thing is, where in one scene Sion attacked Nihilus. Sion died, then got better. Neither one can defeat the other! Sion cannot beat Nihilus's Froce Drain, and keeps dying, just to get back up. Nihilus can't kill Sion for good, only for a second or so. As Wounds in the Force, their signature Dark side powers were unmatched, and could only be bested by their piers OR by a selected few like 10-20-ish individuals in all of Star Wars...rey Palpatine is All the Jedi???? She would have bleed out and died on the spot, while Darth Nihilus would still only casually enter the planet's higher atmosphere on His capital spaceship.
Darth Sion the lord of pain
According to the writers of Kotor 2 Revan would best Nihilus, he was just that op.
@@aacm1259 I think so too. Revan knew the Force way better, then Nihilus. With a bit of research and time, Revan would figure out Force Wounds as well. He's the GOAT.
Rey isn't a Skywalker, she never lost a limb
When I was 10 years old, playing the original KOTOR game on the classic Xbox, it blew my mind when 80% of the way through they hit you with the reveal - You are the mind-wiped Revan. The whole time you think you're getting these force visions cause you're just strong in the force and BAM, its actually just your memories coming back.
Normally I'm a bit better about holding back this spoiler, but that video basically explained it considering the plot of the first Kotor game is teaming up with Bastilla to track down and destroy the star forge, all which is mentioned in the video.
The whole game was made on a DnD system as well, so it still holds up today - as long as you can get it to run.
Something that the guy who made this video skipped is that not only did he take out Mandalore (leader of the mandalorians) in the mandalorian wars, but during the Jedi Civil War, he teamed up with a guy name Canderous Ordo, who proceeded to become the new Mandalore.
You can play it on mobile now! Don't even need an emulator, it's fully legit. Way better with a bluetooth contoller but totally playable.
Spoilers :o
It's a few steps removed from the D&D system, it's one filtered through the D20 era 1st and 2nd editions of the RPG, and a lot of people theorize it had some of the precursors of the 3rd version WotC did. And how WotC lost the license is due to Hasbro fuckery with things that screwed over their subsidiary.
KotOR and KotOR 2 are both, currently, best played on the Switch in my opinion...though the developers did lie about how they were going to add the restored content mod to it at a later point
@@AzraelThanatos Yes and no. They wanted to, but then, y'know, it's kind of hard to just add a random person's mod to a licensed game, especially when the mod add/restores cut content that the original creators of the game made. You're talking layers upon layers of red tape. I got a feeling someone really really wanted to add it, but then said "..oh, no, we can't do that"
@@captainawf2341 There is the ongoing lawsuit because they included the promise for it in the trailers...
and that's the SHORT version of Revan's story. He's as synonymous with the old republic era as the skywalkers in the movie era. He's a Jedi, He's a Sith, He's a protagonist in some games, He's an antagonist in other games, he has multiple dungeons/raids dedicated to him, even an entire expansion of the mmo! he has a cult, they didn't even mention his cult! That time he got a planet blown up.... The dozens of named sith and Jedi he defeats... The fact that as a prisoner, he mentally influences the emperor into not going to war with the republic for decades. He's just got feats everywhere you look.
Another fantastic guy to deep dive on is Starkiller, guy has some crazy force feats.
Rule of Cool: Starkiller has some crazy force feats.
Power of Moneeeeeeeeyyyyy move: rey Palpatine has some crazy force feats.
@@killereye One trained his entire life. The other did not.
@@olafgurke4699 Indeed. One was raised by a Droid, who regularly beat the child, until the child learned to use the Force and destroyed the abusive nanny droid, then got taught by both Darth Vader and another droid, who was tasked to try and kill the child for real...The struggle was real.
The other child was always taking stuff belonging to others, and learned to use the Force by Deus Ex Machina. From that point, that child never really struggled ever since, since the Force Gods (a.k.a. Writers) always got the child's back.
"Imagine a story with Revan as the main character." No need to imagine, because what this video shockingly didn't mention (unless it was at the very end after you stopped watching) is that Revan is literally who you play as in KOTOR, the game detailing the events after the Jedi wiped his memories, where the amnesiac Revan goes on his journey to take down Darth Malak. Furthermore, while future stories confirm that Revan "canonically" returned to the Light Side here, as the player you have the option to instead follow a darker path and experience an alternate story and ending where Revan becomes a full-blown Sith again. The game is great, so I'd recommend checking it out. (though you may wanna look into some of the recommended hotfix mods as well, because the vanilla experience can be pretty janky in this day and age)
To cut things short, to any true fans, Revan and Legends ARE canon. THE END.
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Fun fact: After beating Mandalor the Ultimate in single combat, Revan hid his mask so a new Mandalore couldn’t be crowned. This is imported because the mask had belonged to Mandalorian rulers ever since Mandalore the great, the founder of Mandalore. To this day it remains lost and will continue to be since Disney refuses to recognize the expanded universe as canon.
Didn't he track it down and give it to his bro Canderous? I specifically remember Kotor2 having Canderous in it, but he goes by Mandalore now and in-game he can't take his armor (including his helmet) off so it is missed by some people.
@@m05513 I thought he hid the mask on Rekkiad to scatter his people? Am I remembering wrong?
@@m05513 Just looked it up on Wookieepedia (which I am aware is under scrutiny due to recent events) and it yeah, you were right. Revan gave it to Canderous to reunite the Mandalorians.
@@JRock2007 You aren't wrong, just after the events of Kotor 1, Revan and Canderous return to Rekkiad, where he retrieves the mask and gives it to Canderous. Canderous goes on to be known as Mandalore the Preserver, and sets to rebuilding the Mandalorian clans in the hope they will be prepared for the eventual sith empire's invasion.
Too bad it takes 300 years to happen and the mandalorians side with the very people that manipulated them like puppets in the first place, instead of the republic that they were reformed to protect.
In the Book titled "Revan" Revan tracks the mask down and gives it to his Mandalorian friend/party memeber, Canderous Ordo, who becomes Mandalore the Preserver.
The Darksaber being the sign of Mandalore's Ruler is dizni BS! Find the damn Helmet and put it on! I won1t recognize anyone as Mandalore, without the helmet! The Darksaber is cool on it's own, yeah...but overrated and overblown at this point. It's dizni lore and shallow at best.
What Variant doesnt tell you, is that while being tortured Revan was actually able to mentally manipulate the emporer into not attacking the Republic for decades/centuries so that Bastilla and his kid could live in relative peace.
Filled the Sith Emperor's minds with insecurity and doubts. GOAT act of Revan #875966272727553. : Revan led Vitiate by His nose for hundreds of years while being the Sith's prisoner and being tortured and kept alive 24/7...
Nux if you see this I suggest watching the Philosophy of Kreia. It’s like an hour and a half video that goes into Regan’s master, who was more important in the sequel game. She’s pretty interesting but was held back by her game
Oh heck yeah, that video is an absolute banger!
Kreia is a good example on how to write an excellent female character that is going to stand out.
That video is showcasing how complex she is. But hey, we got the power of many now.
@@Kiwi-Araga Power of Moneeeeeyyyyyy... ~dizni
Ronald Regan had a master? Damn
The whole quote about "peace is a lie" is the Sith Code;
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion I gain strength,
Through strength I gain power,
Through power I gain victory,
Through victory my chains are broken"
Both the Sith Code and the Jedi Code were introduced in KotOR 1. Even George knew that shizz was top tier stuff! Allegedly, G.Lucas only changed a few things in KotOR, like less then 1% stuff, it was so flawless lore/story wise.
@@killereye The Jedi and Sith Codes were codified before that, there's also the revision of the Jedi Code that happens during the entire mess with the back to back Sith Wars from the Tales of the Jedi comics (Not counting Golden Age which was something that happened far earlier).
@@AzraelThanatos It may be so or not. I cannot confirm this info really. Every source I know (included playing KotOR 1-2 at the time they were out) mentions KotOR as most known source. That game made it the most famous to all, including to myself. Then again, I don't know all, soooo... :3
@@AzraelThanatos Tales of the Jedi (2022) was made by dizni so no wonder I don't know of that...everything dizni makes in recent years is no SW to me! I may not know the true source correctly, but KotOR undeniably made the Codes known to me, and everyone and every source I know. I reject dizni stuff, cuz dizni doesn't gives SW repect. Without Respect, We Reject!
@@killereye There's the old Tales of the Jedi comics that a lot of the KotOR stuff was based on...such as Bastilla, originally, was intended to be a Sunrider, but that got changed during it.
The comics were published from 1993-1998...
Satele Shan, the Jedi Grandmaster who teamed up with Sith to beat him, is his Great Grand Daughter(like 5 Greats If I remember right). So it was a family fight. The video says when Revan was captured by the emperor that it was "years" but it was LONG time for Satele to be around. Revan was born in 3994 BBY and Satele in 3699 BBY. So almost 300 years apart.
In KOTOR 2 you find out Revan was already missing and Bastilla, his wife and female lead of KOTOR 1, was already looking for him. Their kids were not older than teenagers when she left to look for him and she never finds him.
And then he has a rather interesting quest line in swtor...
Also Bastilla turns up a few times in swtor too
there are 6 known Shan descendants of Revan and Bastila..
their son Vaner Shan (b. 3954 BBY)
Vaner's son Bress and daughter Reesa (b. shortly before 3900 BBY)
Satele's mother Tasiele Shan
Satele Shan
Theron Shan (Satele's son)
given its 300 years between KOTOR 1/2 and SWTOR then Satele is somewhere between their Great Great and Great x4 Granddaughter, the missing link(s) are
1. which Grandchild (Bress or Reesa) was the Ancestor of Satele
2. how many Shan's are missing from the known family tree
you also can't go by Surname because every descendant apart from Vaner and Theron were Jedi and the Shan family has always been Matriarchal (including the female members and children always keeping/taking the surname Shan)
I'll say this - Shadow of Revan is the most PEAK story expansion in SWTOR. I loved every minute of it and replayed it multiple times.
21:16 Oh you're gonna love Darth Sion
6:19
“I don’t know your name, but I’ll take up your cause. Never again shall I remove your mask, until all Mandalorians are defeated once and for all. So swears… REVAN!”
17:29 Gotta love the "Sith Backhand Lightsaber to the Jaw"-move being an equivalent of a Dark Side Pimpslap from Daddy Darth Revan! The not-impressed head shake after was the toping! You were NOT READY, Darth Malak! You never were...
3:20 Darth Traya or simply Kreia is someone you should most definitively do a deep dive on. Her philosophy is so unique among both the jedi and the sith, it's actually insane how well written and well defined she was. It's probably the first time a character made everyone question both orders so much, that perhaps they are both missguided. I really do recommend "Philosophy of Kreia: A critical examination of Star Wars", as it goes pretty deep into each side's views.
It's important to note that
Vitiate didn't just torture Revan for a couple years, he tortured him for 300. The old Republic MMO takes place a little over 300 years after Knights of the old Republic.
During this time both of their minds were linked and even while being tortured, Revan influence the emperor and stalled his invasion of the Republic for 3 centuries.
Revan was a character that arguibly came the closest to understanding the Force in full. Having a perspective from both the Light and Dark side and maintaining a Grey outlook.
He was legitimately an amazing character and is the one piece of content fans won't let Disney ruin
Nah he was closer to a Jeda'ii
"Savior, Conquerer, Hero, Villain, you are all things Revan."
I've found perfect sumarise of Acolyte:
"They managed to make cosmic lesbian witches unappealing to male viewers in 15/60 yo range. I have no idea how."
So they tried making star wars steven universe but failed
Cosmic lesbian witches sounds like such an awesome concept and they FUCKED IT UP SO BAD
Why is when Nux watches something I love, he watches the least detailed or indepth RUclips lore breakdowns 😭
@Nuxanor Fun fact Nux... The force vision Revan saw of the Mandalorian massacre, one Mandalorian woman was against the slaughter of civilians. She spoke out against it, and fought the Mandalorian army because she knew it was wrong, and dishonorable to kill Civilians.... She died with the Civilians, hence why Revan picked up and wore the mask. To carry on what she started. (It's also why it wasn't a *complete* Mandalorian Genocide when he ended the Mandalorian war)
18:45 even better, in Knights of the Old Republic, where Revan’s story began, Malak’s tongue was still at the top of his mouth and flapped a little when he talked.
So glad someone recommended him the GOAT of the Old Republic. It's only a matter of time until he learns more of the Old Republic lore.
Keep them coming!
You should do a deep dive into Kreya and Knights of the Old Republic 2, which is like the best Star Wars story ever
Kotor 2 best SW story??? Arguably...YES!
id agree with that claim, and 2nd the motion
He beat the Mandalorians so hard, they were like "....yo, this guys alright, look how bad he beat our ass"
This guy literally made Revan sound like twice less cool than he actually was and that was while trying to hype him up.
Also even though latter half of Revan's story is from questionably written Bioware MMO, Revan did not want to ressurect Tenebrae just to kill him again, he knew that if he DOESNT do that, Tenebrae will return eventually so he will not be truly dead unless Revan ends him for good, and reviving him was the only way. Which was later confirmed.
and the best part he and a group of jedi an sith defeated the the soul of tenebrae hundread years after Revans death and becoming one with the force
Dude brushed over all the 4D chess Revan was playing
A lot of that can also be taken as an issue with the medium, you're not actually getting a lot of Revan's thoughts and information which the players would have never encountered there. Unfortunately, with the end of a lot of the old agreements with Lucasfilms/LucasArts ending due to Disney, there isn't that much of the expanded lore that they can actually do anything with.
Revan: there is no power a sith holds, that a Jedi cannot choose to wield.
Nux should definitely cover Kreia/Darth Treya. She is IMO, the best written mentor in Star Wars. He might even enjoy her fourth wall breaks. Edit: In case no one linked it here. ruclips.net/video/-Z0S0Z8lUTg/видео.htmlsi=FGvDl-DSsmoGYBUg
Not to mention, he gets a small taste of Darth Nihilus
@@smokeythieff and Revan's 3rd in Command of the Republic Forces in the Mandalorian War, you can't talk about Darth Treya or Darth Nihilus and not talk about her, the Jedi that cut themselves off from the force.
It should be codes/ideologys and then kreia and the main people of kotor2
Statement: Darth Traya...Lord of Betrayal
Nux: "Man, right before the Rise of Skywalker came out. Back when it wasn't this bad."
MauLer: "Well, yes, but actually no."
I gotta say.....This is the "new" story of Revan after the old republic game came out. Nux should witness the insanity that was the original Knights of the old republic story, in which Revan didn't get manipulated to become Sith. He chose the dark side and fricked up the republic because he saw an enormous threat in the outer rim, and he was sure only with the republic crushed under his rule he could save the galaxy. Old Star Wars was insane man.
Both lore about Revan's Fall matches each other a bit: Revan was corrupted by the Sith Eperor OR He choose the Dark Side, but NEVER FELL! The beauty in both version is, that it's uncertain what happened, but Darth Revan returning from the Outer Rim and His story is History. You can choose why Revan became Darth Revan, because it's as good of a rumour as any/the other.
I too choose to think, that Revan willingly choose the Dark Side, not to destroy the Republic, but to overthrow it and prepare it for the great threat, that is Vitiate. But I could easily picture, that Revan was summoned by the Sith Emperor and got a major dose of dark side corruption for shits and giggles, and Revan simply...got better from it.
And now you scratch the very surface of the Old Republic setting, and begin to understand why the hard-core fans are so pissed about Disney's management.
Satele Shan, the Jedi who helped beat him, was Revan’s own descendant.
Revan wanted to teach the Jedi his knowledge of both the Light Side & the Dark Side. The Jedi Council at the time promoted him to Master & allowed his marriage to Bastila as long as he kept his teachings to himself.
10:20 Luckily, Nux, we don't have to imagine. There's this little game called Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic...
You're going to love Revan even more when you learn about the actual GOAT of the Sith, Darth Bane
Darth Bane had a ton of great moments in his trilogy books, but my favorite one was, after He learned that the meaning of the title "Darth" is a challenge to others to take away your power/life, then finds Darth Revan's holocron, and goes back to the Sith Academy, and the teachers greet Him: "Welcome back, Lord Bane! We forgive your disrespectful leave and absence. You have now returned to us, ready to admit your foolishness and rejoin the Sith Army and the war against the Jedi..." And Bane just said: "NO! I am not here to rejoin the academy nor the army! I am here to say my farewells. And my name is...DARTH BANE!" He then turned and left, and EVERYONE was scared SITHless (pun intended) or thought that Lord Bane was a fool, but they didn't crossed His way/was let go unchallenged. Nobody attacked him, and He was let go...just to return and do a cheeky "Rule of 2" on them in the War! >XD
My name is...DARTH BANE!" was such a cool statement. Most students and Sith Lords were too uneducated to know what "Darth" means, and those few teachers who knew were not thinking on Bane highly to care...We all know what happened to all of them in the end! Darth Bane for the win! >:3
Bane is literally why the Sith are a shell of their former selves from this time period. His stupid rule of two is why Starkiller can never be canon and why Palpatine was a total idiot with Anakin.
@@zigslotheon 1. The rule fixed a lot of the problems they had, and for the record Palpatine is supposed to be the most powerful sith so the rule did work.
2. Starkiller is basically Vader's Maul, the only thing stopping his existence is the timeline and his power level
And what do you mean Palpatine was an idiot?
@@Vivianthuy-mn9jd all he did was ensure Anakin would want his head on a pike at some point down the line.
@@Vivianthuy-mn9jd "Palpatine is supposed to be the most powerful Sith"
Only within the context of Lucas' work. You need to spend more time reading what Lucas actually said rather than just online talking points by power scalers who's agenda is just to make their favorite character seem like the strongest.
Lucas made no consideration for or against the works of other authors who wrote in the EU bubble - to him those were just fanfiction that he got paid for, so he let other people do whatever the hell they wanted and completely disregarded what they wrote. In his own words, Lucas told people that they needed to consider EU works as separate universes and not part of his own work.
Palpatine being on par with some of the true monsters of the setting, like Sadow or Tenebrae, would completely ruin his character and the entire story of the original 6 movies, since him being that powerful creates a TON of plot holes in the movies that just can't be reconciled. This is also a problem that some of the earlier EU works that involve Palpatine have - Dark Empire being the most notable. If they're canon, they break the movies - especially the prequels.
This is also why you shouldn't take a lot of the side material that hype Vader seriously. If they're accurate, they break the movies just as badly as the sequel trilogy does.
"Reven been a jedi and a sith!?! Is that even a thing?" Me siting here thinking Ankin Skywalker
The sad thing is i dont want him in mainline continuity because that would mean Disney ruins him
Sad rumor: dizni wanted Revan to be a female, after taking the mask off. While it works in a game setting, the canon is that Revan is a male, and the books are there, so dizni can't edit that fact, like they did Jedi Master KAM dirty in the blAcKolyte!
When Revan said the darkest day's lie ahead he was talking about the Disney Empire.
Yeah he left out that Revan was tortured for 300 years he never got to see his pregnant wife again or his friends and 300 years later was killed by his great grand daughter of 300 years he is one of the best characters ever made
And that happened because of stupidity of Meetra.
That video with Malak was so cool. The only thing I couldn't believe about it was him saying, "request a transfer if you must." Personally, I think Malak would've force-choked the admiral (?), pulled him face-to-face, said all that other stuff, but ended it with, "you will follow these orders or I will find someone who will."
But maybe that's why Malak was always #2.
I couldn't picture Darth Malak saying those things at all. It was PG13 or something. "You will follow these orders or die!" That's the casual Sith way of keeping your lower ranked subordinates in check!
Darth Malak was always #2...Imagine questioning an order from Darth Revan! Impossiburu!
Darth Vitiate is one of the goats of the Sith. Palpatine got inspired by him to become the emperor.
Vitiate is overrated, people forget his power coems from more than a thousand sith lords, while all the other big wigs are powerhouses of their own.
@@MsSilentGaming I know that, and still I think he is a goat.
In that sense he is like Palpatine (more like Palpatine got inspired by), he is not as strong on its own initially, but with patience and wits he becomes powerful and feared.
Through rituals absorbing the power of a 1000sith and the energy of a whole planet he became powerful in the force, through body swaping he became inmortal, by hiding himself with body swaping he controlled and united the Sith far longer than anybody in Star Wars history.
Almost becomes a god by performing the initial ritual on a galactic scale.
Fails and gets defeated later on, to bodyswap to create another Empire that beats the Sith Empire and Republic at once.
He is not a Revan, nor Malgus, not a Nihilus either. He is a clever and patient schemer that got to the top, built empires, creates servants and apprentices through manipulation.
Palpatine actually disliked vitiate, Palpatine wanted to be emporer of the galaxy. Vitiate wanted to be the emporer of a universe of death
@@MsSilentGamingsee but Vitiate ain't Vitiate my dude.
Before he was Vitiate..he was well I forgot his name but he was Him.
And ate his own civilization.
I think even planet.
This dude puts Father from Full Metal Alchemist to shame
@@thedappermagician6905 Like i said, he is Tenebrae, he devoured a thousand Sith Lords by tricking them into a ritual after their defeat with Naga Sadow by the republic, he's a pussy compared to Revan, Bane, Tulak Hord etc.
Covering my fav SW KOTOR character on my B-day? Thank you Nux!
I really hope Nux will look up Kreia/Traya, she's by far one of the best written characters that Star Wars has seen.
+1
"A Jedi and a Sith? Is that even possible?"
**gestures vaguely in the direction of Anakin**
Not at the same time tho'. At any given time it's either Anakin Skywalker or Darth Vader.
Revan was a master of both sides of the Force. He wasn't Jedi nor Sith, but more. A Force User. His Force Talents were similar to that of The Father's, who kept the Daughter and Son in check. I could see Revan being the Balance of the Force. He got the talent and the experience AND is both DS and LS at the same time.
@@killereye true, he was very capable in both light and dark side force techniques. But he was still aligned with either the Jedi or the Sith throughout most of his life. He isn't the only one who used abilities that utilized the other side, of course. Vapaad also does that.
@@macewindu3492 Hehehe! I always believed, and most likely it's the truth, that Samuel L. Jackson just wanted to be a Bad MFer in the movie...And He was! It stands on His lightsaber - it's canon!!! He wanted to be a good Jedi, powerful, but not afraid of battle, and even enjoying it. Mace Windu is a light Gary Stu, but a well written one! And Him inventing Vapaad is truly a great feat. I am 100% okay with Jedi Master Mace Windu!
Darth Revan is the coolest character
Stupendous wave does a great job with Star Wars lore. I think he explains Revans lore incredible detail.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do a Galen Marek/Starkiller lore vid!!! Trust me you'll love The Force Unleashed lore!!!
21:20
guts is more sad than angry like revan
revan is like cave johnson
because when life gave him lemons
he didnt make lemonade
he got mad
WERE DOING A LORE DIVE ON MY GOAT!!!!!!!!!!! WHOOOOOOOOOOO
Gotta respect a man who's resume starts with winning a duel with not just a mandalorian, but the mand'alor, who is the mandalorian of mandalorians.
Also, in legends (during Luke Skywalker's time) the Jedi and Sith do team up once more. To fight a monster called Aboleth.
Aboleth is another Must-know lore of good Star Wars! If dizni wants us to fear strong women...Aboleth is right there. 99.9999999999999% of the Star Wars universe fears Aboleth! I would just go into hyperspace and won't come out ever again, if She was escaping from the Black hole cluster called The MAW! I don't think there is any way to escape from Aboleth. Best thing you can hope for, that She doesn't gets to be aware of your existence, and leaves alone the planet/system you are in. Strong Whamen, dizni? Naaaaaaah! I sleep! / Aboleth. I FEAR!
I'm so glad that you went and watched the Unreal video of Revan vs Malak. That was so well done!!!
Im just gonna say it "Keanu reeves" casted as Revan
Yes! YES! YAAAAAS! YAAAAASSSS!
Nux, something else to consider that highlights how badass Revan is.
The mask was made for a mandalorian, and originally mandalorians were an alien race. So he's fighting with a mask that wasnt precisely made with human anatomy or eyes in mind.
The fact the sith creed allows you to be a normal average civilian as well as a evil tyrant is what gets me.
Also please please please let starkiller deep dive happen
I know there like two sith who where like this
Ones owned a mine and a actually had very good health care and shut down a mine when his workers would get hurt and injured. And the guy died old with his family by him in. His finally breath.
That’s not really true
21:30 Darth Sion from KOTOR 2 had that power you fought him several times in the game but he just gets back up after willing himself together with the force. It's only after a psychology session with the main character that he learns to let go of his anger and dies.
Honestly I hope Disney never touches Revan .
As long as Revan has a pp they are not going to touch him, they won't allow badass male characters
I am loving watching Nux learn some deep lore of Star Wars "Legends," and personally I would love to see more. From the Rakata, the Pius Deia era, and Valkorium/Vitiate, to Luke's Jedi Order, the Yuuzahn Vong and Abeloth.
He needs to know about the Exile and Kreia too
And Jedi Master Atris...The most Based Jedi at the time, since Kreia wasn't a Jedi anymore, but was even more Based then anyone else.
@@killereye I love atris
@@lukescrew1981 Me too. She was seriously trying to fight the Sith Triumvirate. She had the most hate for them. Not very Jedi-like, so...Based! 😀 Had a cool design and a harem too...
@@killereye True
I DROPPED MY JAW WHEN I SAW YOU UPLOADED THIS VIDEO! 😱
I re-downloaded KOTOR a few days ago. Revan is truly the GOAT, and I love how they made his relationship with Bastila canon in that part of the lore.
The fact that Satele, his Jedi decendent in TOR, worked with the Sith to fight HIM, and ended up with Jace (the trooper who helped her fight Malgus on Alderaan) brings me joy.
Love isn't a hinderance the Jedi think it is, it can be a source of strength. Obsession is what the Jedi should really dislike. I side with the Grey Jedi 💯.
From my memory, they didn't retrain revan because they thought he was the only one who could beat Malak. It was because they were hoping to access his memories to follow the path revan and Malak followed and find out how they built a giant fleet so quickly and to find out what happened to them while they were away. They only find the star forge, then revan goes searching for the sith emperor on his own. And definitely check out Darth Bane. Love that series.
I don't think that this video did revan justice. Nux should find a more in depth vid.
Also he should look into starkiller lore.
19:18 There was also the issue with the Star Forge, it was the primary force behind Revan's military might but no one knew where it was, so they mind wiped Revan then sent him out hoping he would retrace his own steps and lead the Jedi to the Star Forge.
Too angry to die? Darth Sion?
For the mask, there is also the version where he took the mask of a mandalorian who was executed... because she protested against the civilian massacre.
also there mandalorian survivbor at the end of the war and canderous Ordo followed and teamed up with revan when he lost his memories and restored the mandalorian after quitting revan as mandalorian the restorer.
'In the warp a giant stirred; an image flickered through a mind larger than a nebula. The sleep of Gork was troubled. In his dreams he wore a metal body and led his children to victory. The dream lasted a brief instant of long eternity, something about it caused Gork to smile but not to rouse.
In the warp Mork too was disturbed. He dreamed of war spreading like a green stain across the galaxy. He saw billions of his children following giant warmachines built in his crude image on a great crusade. He found the dream good. And slowly his vast mind moved towards wakefulness.
Gork and Mork stirred. Their dreams reached out and touched the dreams of their people. A billion Orks turned in their sleep; suddenly, inexplicably infected by scenes of slaughter and reaving, plunder and the taking of worlds. When they awoke they looked on their surroundings and found them dull.
Gork struggled towards awareness. After centuries of dormancy it was a long process. He sensed other Powers in the warp trying to interfere. He blocked a subtle tendril from Slaanesh, ignored a baleful warning from the Emperor, discounted the triumphant cry of Khorne. He reached out with his millennia-old mind and gathered the strength of his people. Soon he would be awake and active. A body of steel had been prepared for him. A time of blood and iron was approaching.
As Mork gathered strength many a Warboss found himself afflicted with thoughts of power. Ancient ambitions were re-kindled. Long vanished thoughts of conquest stirred in the recesses of slow minds. They planned raids on nearby Humans and toyed with thoughts of alliances with old rivals. Not even great soul-searching could explain why this was so. The Ancient Powers knew what was happening, though. The Waa-Ork was coming.
Gork and Mork stirred and a wave of fear passed through the warp. Suicide and incidence of violent crime climbed steeply. On Icolbar an Astropath screamed and threw himself from the balcony of a starscraper apartment, yelling that his people were doomed. On the craft-world Hope of Other Days, an Eldar philosopher stopped listening to the atonal music of his water-chimes and began composing his death-haiku, feeling his life had been justified. On distant Earth, a living corpse in a golden throne opened eyes that held fear for the first time in centuries.
Gork felt his attention being tugged towards one tiny world on the edge of Orkdom. A strange attraction drew him to it. He leaned down from warpspace and looked upon it. His breath brought storms in the Ash Desert. His gaze caused machines to break down. His lightest tread brought earthquakes. Seeing the disruption he was causing among his people he withdrew. He knew the time was not yet right for his return. He withdrew but he left a message.
Mork moved on the face of the warp, brushing aside Daemons and ignoring ancient barriers set by long dead Gods. He moved from world to world and placed in the heart of every Ork the desire to be restless, to move, to follow the siren call of adventure when it came. He sensed other Powers subtly striving to oppose him and laughed as their attempts to restrain his crude, irresistible purpose.
The Emperor knew that he must save his people. If Gork and Mork unleashed their hordes then any unprepared worlds would be swept aside by a green tide of death The Emperor bent his thoughts to the task. Across Human space, within the range of the Astronomicon, Imperial Tarot began to foretell disaster. Commanders consulting them found all the signs of impending catastrophe on a cosmic scale.
In the Segmentum Obscura, Battlefleets were recalled and prepared for war. On the homeworlds of the Adeptus Astartes, Space Marines reached for their weapons, knowing their time of destiny was near. On the edges of the Eye Of Terror, the Orders of the Adeptus Titanicus roused their ancient war-machines. Having surveyed his Empire and seen it was ready the dying immortal within the Golden Throne prepared himself for the conflict to come.
Gork and Mork knew that they were ready. Their people were agitated and prepared for battle The Emperor, their chosen enemy, had deployed his forces. The first skirmishes had been fought, now war was about to be joined.
Beyond them they sensed the Chaos Powers watching, waiting to see what advantage the God-brothers' actions might bring them. In the darkest pits of creation twisted creatures prepared to follow the Orks' advance. Gork and Mork did not care. They knew they were strong enough to resist Chaos.
The time was right. The time was now. It was time for Gork and Mork to have some fun.
In the Warp Gork and Mork waited, well pleased. Across the face of a million worlds their children were on the move, a green tide that would topple empires and re-shape the Universe. The Waa-Ork was on the move.'
I will post this on all of your videos until you watch Baldemort's: The Secret History of the Orks.
Nuxanor/Nux Taku you have taken three deep dives into Star Wars lore. So by the power of the Father, Son, and Daughter you are now known as Darth Nux Taku and an official Star Wars fan
Waiting for the day Nux realizes the Jedi are the bad guys, The Acolyte just went about it in the worst way possible.
0:42 wait till you see Darth Sion. The man was literally so angry he held his body together with sheer hatred and anger. A literal force zombie pretty much, he is just scraps held together.
3:20 bro, look into her, she is nuts.
To clarify on the mandalorians; Revan didn't wipe out the Mandalorians, but they had a clan structure and were only unified when a strong leader had Mandalore's Mask, a spiritual and cultural symbol. Rather than a full combat, Revan focused on taking out Mandalore The Ultimate and then hiding the mask, ensuring that any reunification of the Mandalorians would only be viable through long term civil war. Very much a head of the snake strategy. And they respected him because the Klingons wish they were as hardcore about a warrior culture as the Mandalorians were.
Revan and his Jedi Crusaders caused a complete shift in Mandalorian tactical and strategic evolution over the centuries. They viewed the "Jetii" sorcerers as the most dangerous of foes, and focused on finding ways to combat them. Building weapons directly into their armor so they couldn't be disarmed by the Force, using area of effect weapons like flamethrowers and explosives that couldn't be deflected by a lightsaber, using jetpacks to enhance their mobility to keep up with the superhuman feats of a force user. They would even use slug-throwers, a rare weapon in Star Wars due to how effective blasters are, if they knew for a fact they were going to fight a Jedi, since the metal projectile would turn into dangerous slag if intercepted by a lightsaber.
As time went on, especailly during the High Republic and after, a lot of the reasoning behind those choices faded and it just became 'normal' to the Mandalorians, but they would still tell stories of the Jetii of the Republic, often exagerrated though.
During The Old Republic video game, the Mandalorians are allied with the Sith Empire, and the Sith are too arrogant to realize its an insult. The Mandos see the Jedi as more worthy opponents than Sith, so allied with the Sith in order to have an easier time finding and fighting Jedi.
So...Revan uses a mask he never takes off, was wronged by a Dark Lord and by people he trusted, literally planned to resurrect the Dark Lord to KILL him and is literally too angry to die.
...goddamnit, Revan is the freaking DOOM SLAYER!
@6:35 Another thing you'll notice about later Sith is that they also take to wearing similar masks, that's them paying homage to Darth Revan.
@19:31 The dark lords that had the most impact on the history and lineage of the Sith are, in my opinion; Darth Vitiate (Valkorion), Exar Kun, Darth Revan, and Darth Bane. There's plenty of really awesome Sith before, between, and after them, but to me those four had the longest lasting impacts on not just Sith tradition, but on the galaxy itself.
Fun fact revan was technically in clone wars in deleted scene
Sweet vid, glad you're enjoying your Starwars deep dive
Another thing to note about this is that much of this story happened as the MMORPG Star Wars: The Old Republic released more expansions. Satele Shan, mentioned in the video, defeated the ghost of Revan in her lifetime as an adult, but she is actually the descendant of Revan and Bastila and was born about 300 years after Revan was born. Where does all this time go? It's been a while since I read the Revan books, but before the Knights of the Fallen Empire stuff came out, The Emperor was not yet known as Vitiate, simply being known as the Emperor of the Sith. From what I remember during this period, when Revan went to challenge the Emperor, he returned as a master of both the light and dark side of the force and used both in combat, being the first (chronologically) Jedi to master both sides, the next being Luke. They fought again, where the Emperor attempted to use the force to convert Revan again to the dark side, though Revan resisted for over 300 years, delaying the war between the Jedi and Sith from happening, being stuck in a protracted psychological force battle where he would not be broken. During this time, Meetra Surik, who is the protagonist of KotOR 2, comes in to rescue him, though I don't recall exactly what happens. I believe she fails to save Revan, though possibly she dies here, and potentially Revan does too, or continues fighting and dies later. I can't find the original references that contained this information, since I don't have the novel and the Wiki pages now have information about Vitiate which is different from what I read back in the day, though basically, there exists in book form out there the battle between Revan and Vitiate. Instead of Revan simply being taken down by the other Sith there like some extra, Revan managed to delay the galaxy-wide war singlehandedly. There's more out there, and I just felt like commenting because I felt like the video didn't do Revan enough justice in his final battle. I mean come on, the dude held on for centuries. There are likely some errors here, and if anyone could find references in novels or from a wiki, sourced corrections would be appreciated.
Darth Revan is ons of my favorite characters even though he is barely canon, glad to see you learn about him