In GoW 2018 Sindri says that Brok's skin gradually turned blue due to forging metals with his bare hands (Brok says he doesn't wear gloves because he likes to get a feel for the metal). It's a very real condition called argyria, which turns your skin blue from too much exposure to silver. Plus if Brok just woke up from his incident and suddenly had blue skin he would've been more than a little suspicious lol.
I do remember that but I always considered that like a half truth. Maybe he had tinted skin from that but Sindri was not above lying to his brother and Brok does have his suspicions
I agree on the ending feeling very rushed. I think it would have been better for this game to end with Brok's death and have all of the preparation for Ragnarok and the battle itself take place in a third game.
I would've been pretty mad if that happened. They definitely could've made Ragnarok be a little more epic though. You fight what, 10 enemies on the way to Thor? Lol
The ending is not just rushed. Most parts of the story are straight up illogical and simply made to be convenient for the plot to follow and story to reach a rushed conclusion. I loved GOW 2018. I like Ragnarok -gameplay, side quests, character moments. But completely dislike the story.
I hadn’t gotten a strong emotional reaction to an ending of a game like this since the first Last of Us. The final act did feel rushed in places but I felt the characters were all written so damn well that I could excuse it
Thank you for finally being the first person I’ve seen who acknowledged how ragnarok felt rushed and not really impactful at the end. I’ve finished the game and felt this sour taste of something missing, and after some time thinking I’ve realized the problem is not just that it was rushed, but that the whole game was spent lowering the stakes to a point where there was really nothing risky at all in the battle. The first hour of the game in honestly almost perfectly, having this feeling of “everything is f*d up”. The world is all dark and every enemy seems to be so much powerful than you, and avoid the endgame at all cost seems to be the only right choice. But as the game progresses, you discover that ragnarok won’t destroy the entire world, only asgard. They keep reaffirming how prophecies JUST MIGHT be changed, so I wonder if kratos will really die… They show how odin is on its way to have no allies at the end, how all the realms are willing to help you in a single instant (when some of them should hate you), and I don’t even want to start with surtr and the giant wolf that can literally eat worlds. and at the end, odin doesn’t really have the mask because by a nice trick shot of kratos you have it back. So now, what can odin really do? He doesn’t have the mask, or a strong army, in fact if we want we can take a walk in the park of every realm before going to the fight. What really is the stakes here? The battle was already won from the start. And the pay off was still bad. We fought thor, then odin, and that was it. We always had the advantage. When I thought something different would happen, like the ragnarok turning against ourselves and offering an actual threat to the world, IT JUST CUTS TO ATREUS WAKING UP IN THE BED. This ending was so frustrating to me. I really enjoyed most of the game, and it hurts to say that this and some other problems stuck with me the most. Although I think the packet overall is better than 2018, I can’t really see the masterpiece everyone is talking about.
I'm not gonna try and convince you of anything but after deliberating with some other people of the ending it felt like it could have went both ways with either kratos or Odin dying depending on the capacity of their change Since Odin didn't change at all and Kratos did an immense amount and hearing "you are the sum of your choices" from the norns makes the seemingly rushed ending fit in retrospect It may have not been what everyone wanted But it definitely wrapped up with little to question
People have been saying that since they finished. I found it the worst part of the game along with the needless joutenheim section. Looks like they sacrificed Ragnarok for that
Yeah, it really feels to me that this is a classic case of when art meets commercial interests. It really feels like some many things were changed to accommodate future sequels and that this took precedence over telling the right story.
Despite it’s flaws, Ragnarok to me personally has the biggest, hard hitting emotional moments in the entire series. In my opinion, Kratos seeing Faye’s shrine and seeing that Faye always believed he could become a true god of peace and prosperity, a hero. That really brought the entire franchise together for me and if Kratos’ storyline ended there and he only appeared in future God of War games as a cameo or side character, I wouldn’t mind that at all. His transformation from the Ghost of Sparta to a hero has been nothing short of beautiful to see. I do have issues with the narrative and gameplay, some that even could’ve been remedied in a third installment, making this a trilogy instead of a duology, but the 2 titles we received have been nothing short of amazing tales and a wonderful spin on the God of War franchise. This game alone made me fall in love with the OG trilogy all over again and it completed 2018 where I felt that game was missing something to me. Ragnarok was the missing piece.
@@leonardocosta6038 I just want to know one thing when did they turn it to a duology was it at the start of ragnarok's production or like halfway through it?
That's a hard no from me. I've commented elsewhere that it suffers from the same issues as Kingdom Hearts 3 as in the majority of the interesting plot points, or rather what you're waiting for to happen happens within the last few hours of the game. The final Thor and Odin battles aren't epic in scale as the Baldur fight was, or anything from the Greek games. While the combat in GOW is arguably 'better.' The last boss battles in KH3 were better than what GOWR mustered, that being said GOWR overall had better boss battles in general. I find Heimdall to have some sort of cognitive dissonance. I don't know if he just can't see into Odin's mind and see that All-Father only really cares about himself, or if he actively ignores everything that would appear in someone's mind like Odin's. Which makes him a complete fanatic in either case, but creates a question of the capabilities of Heimdall. The pacing comes to a grinding halt in Jotunheim, I was so goddamn bored that I couldn't wait to get out of there and getting back to play Kratos. Even when Kratos wasn't an active protagonist for the majority of the game. The game is a 6.5-7.5/10 for me. All this talk of masterpieces had me taking a much more critical look at the game, and I don't think it deserves that commendation. It's good, or even really good, but masterpiece it is not. Oh and other criticisms, Freyr had no time to endear himself to the player, the elven armies putting down their arms to join Ragnarok just comes off as lazy.
I swear, your 5000 subscriber special feels like just yesterday. Congratulations on everything you've achieved. It's amazing to see these videos - which you clearly put a lot of effort into, finally getting some of the recognition they deserve. Keep doing what you're doing and I know you'll achieve even greater!
After 100% completing Ragnarok I went back to 2018 for a minute and I noticed every little thing that Ragnarok improved immediately. Feels so much better and it's kinda hard going back to gow2018 after the absolute banger that Ragnarok was
@MayorHairBear 2018 has a few more big and dramatic set pieces. Balder 1 makes the build to balder 2 and its over the Top action much better. Thor 1 implies a much more intense second or third fight later on and while Thor 2 isn't a bad fight it feels much less intense. I get from the narrative it had to be smaller but from a video game perspective the finale of ragnarok needed to be bigger and more over the top TO PLAY. Again as a narrative it worked wonderfully but as a playable set piece it pales next to the Garm build up and the opening hour
there were TWO scenes that made me have a "WTF moment" Scene One: Kratos, Mimir and Atreus arrive at Sindri and Brok's house. Everyone retreats to their rooms to regroup and rest. Kratos and Mimir go into one room and Mimir asks "so, What now, brother?" and camera pans-out and Kratos is closing the door whilst looking back over his shoulder at Mimir... very out of character. Scene Two: Surter basically talked himself into letting Kratos stab him in the chest w the primordial fire... it felt was very rushed and counter to the very fleshed-out,rest of the game. That being said, better than 2018. 9/10 for me
I’d love to see you review the Bayonetta games! The second is when it started getting really good. While they are Platinum games, they made me feel nostalgic for first trilogy God of War and totally hold up gameplay-wise (imo)
Personally after platinuming it and definitely quite some hours I thought the game was pretty good but not as world breaking as people said. Also wish some realms especially Asgard could be explored more. Still had a good time tho and great video my guy 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Yeah, with the exception of Atreus segments and the absence of continuity with 2018's GOW big plot points, like who blew the horn and modi (I suspect he was alive after atreus stabbed him)
If there was ever a better character to show others that vengeance, blind rage and showing no mercy isn't the way, it's Kratos. All it ever got him was a dead wife and daughter who's ashes are still fused to his skin, several painful trips to Hades, a whole pantheon of gods killed and the ultimate destruction of Greece.
It was just awesome seeing Kratos actually finally win... It also brings up another point... If Kratos would've hit Thor in the head with that 🪓 ? There would've been no more Thor🤯
Somehow I found hrolf to be harder than Gna I don't know if it was my lack of skill or just luck but it took me twice as long to beat him than Gna. Also love your content man keep it up.
hardly anyone is even talking about GOWR anymore. pretty much tells you all you need to know. if you like it, this isn't a personal attack. its an objective fact that the game doesn't have a ton of replayability
I h8ed the Atreus parts. Had to switch to the easiest difficulty everytime just to speed run past them. IMO it destroyed this games full potential. I can see why they designed like this but idc i didnt dig it.
Having this a trilogy wouldn't have worked, kratos development of being a better person and father comes to a awesome conclusion in this game, there wouldnt be a lot you could do with him the third game if the focus was still on ragnarok. Also having the third game just being the fall of asgard would have been lame as hell.
I think it's No.2 after 2018/GOW2 which I cannot decide between. It would have been top if it had 1 more thing A much bigger and more expanded Ragnarok set piece. Nearly everything building up to Ragnarok was about as perfect a story and narrative as I could have wanted
The menu in Ragnarok alone was a problem, poorly executed and overly complicated for no reason. How can you not see that? The 2018 game was better in many ways, but that's not to say I did not enjoy it, but it felt like a 1.5 to me.
The mask and crack were such macguffins that I thought I was watching a Star Wars movie. There was way too much retconning, and plot convince. The story overall was lazy. Odin being Tyr was literally just for shock value. I did nothing else for the plot. Like who wrote this, JJ Abrams.
What did it retcon? Odin was manipulating Atreus as tyr and made him run away to Asgard, if Odin had completed the mask he’d have infinitive knowledge and won the final fight. He would have won if it wasn’t for brok.
I also thought the ending felt a tad rushed, which is funny because the game has very slow pacing otherwise, not that I did mind. And I agree with your rating, God of War 2 to me is just the most solid experience from beginning to end and the one I am most likely to replay still, but the newer games are still knockouts. And I don't know about Ragnarok being the better game, I still am incredibly partial to Sigrun and she still remains the best boss battle in the series for me and one of my favorite ever boss fights, nothing in Ragnarok tops it imo. Ok in hindsight Ragnarok is a better game in everything but Sigrun still is my favorite part about the 2 games. Great video and loved that you really enjoyes the game as much as I did.
That is funny isn't it, I don't mind the pacing but yeah, the pay off isn't as well executed as I'd like. I've heard Sigrun is great but you gotta evaluate the whole package 😂 Glad you enjoyed the video mate!
i feel like ragnarok may seem better than 2018 in every way, and though that is true to an extant, imo 2018 just had a better kratos. Like mans was jumping off that one mountain onto the dragon to chase after baldur, and that one scene when kratos just stood there while the dragon looked like it was about to fall on him was just crazy. Maybe it's just because 2018 is what introduced me to the gow franchise, but i honestly didn't feel as much excitement with ragnarok's story. Also imo baldur is a better antagonists than thor and odin combined, like baldur is still the only person to actually throw hands with kratos. And though kratos vs thor round 1 was sick, kratos vs baldur near the beginning of gow 2018 is still the best introductory to a piece of fiction ever. Gow 2018 was also the first time we got to see kratos "main" a weapon other than the blades of chaos, as u would use the axe for over half of the game. Ik i just wrote a whole paragraph that will change nobody's mind on how good ragnarok is, but honestly, even if ragnarok is better than 2018, it is not by much at all.
GOW Ragnorok feels like a story of a bit of naive ambition. With a name like “Ragnorok” I felt like there should have been more spectacle and buildup. For example (SPOILER) When brok dies, all of kratos’s allies seek to build armies. This seems to happen way too easy. The elves just agree to a truce, hellhiems army is covered, and everything happens too quick. Instead of us playing through all those story points, everything is rushed into the end. It feels like Santa Monica wanted to flush out this story entirely, but with only one game. However it feels like in the development of this game everything was finished before ragnorok itself. Every story beat, including the final moments of the story, hits like a truck; except ragnorok itself. The story is great, but the way the story flows into “the war to end all wars” feels like writing down a word on a page with the first letters being big, and each subsequent letter getting smaller and smaller as it approach the end of the page.
I cant give Ragnarok game of the year. As much as i loved it, i had more than a few gripes. Most of 2018's combat was recycled to this game. Sure, there were some new moves but not much (aside from the third weapon of course). The finale was rushed, and just plain bad. I wanted a huge fight like the first fight with Thor at the beginning of the game. That did not happen. Even Odin was 3 on one and just felt too easy. To this day, no boss fight has surpassed Baldur in my opinion. After rescuing Tyr, he proceeds to do absolutely nothing for the entirety of the game. Now after finishing the game, players understand why, yet this does not help Atreus' bit of "we need Tyr for Ragnarok." It was because of Tyr that they first began their journey. I just feel that bit fell flat. Sindri. Oh Sindri. How they butchered your character. The final scene in the game shows Sindri disappearing after Broks funeral. Being that this is the last game in the Norse mythology, are we to believe we will never seen Sindri again? They handled his conclusion HORRIBLY. Especially since Atreus couldnt have known who Tyr was and that Brok would have been killed. At one point, Odin asks Kratos if anyone has ever worshipped him. Since hes such a monster. Uh, yes. People have. All the spartans worshipped him in ghost of sparta and GOW2 but i guess the devs just forgot?? Huge wtf there. Pacing issues. Ironwood. "Hey loki i have something to show you. Can we feed my animals first?" Far too long. Far too unnecessary. Asgard. The mythical grand city was nothing more than a normal looking village. And lets not forget the giant wall you're forced to climb. Not a bad climb, but still unncecessary imo. Half of the side characters are too underdeveloped. I cant tell you how many times i said "who?" When someone mentioned a side character. The mask. All that work to find the missing pieces just to destroy it? Seriously? Why bother having it in the story at all? There was literally no pay off. Where did the rift come from? Where does it lead? Never explained. Atreus was far too eager to begin Ragnarok and start war. And far too many scenes were of Kratos saying "no" and Atreus saying "yes". A large part of the game is about the cost of war, but there was very little war aside from the final battle which was rushed. Even the big battle between Thor and Jormungander, who supposedly shook the realms and blew Jormund back in time, was nothing more than a scene happening in the background. And yet, despite all these glaring issues, the game got a lot of 10s. I just dont get it.
I think you get it bro =) it's quite obvious, and youre right in all points. I have so many bad things about this game to say that I might aswell say nothing, to me this game is objectively bad, and it's funny because it's not a bad game per se (lol) but it's a bad game for gaming. It's a 4yo sony game that had lots of hype. And I mean LOTS. In 1 year there will be a lot of people making essays about this game and pointing every issue, this game will be considered offensive to the franchise, way more that ascencion. This game has dated design and will be forever the game that cost the most and delivered dated walk forward hear exposition 'game'.
people forget that Atreus is still a child and they wanted tyr so badly to follow prophecy. This game is amazing and most your points wrong except for the pacing issues in ironwood. The mask is used to move the plot along and to give thor and the rest of the gods in asgard some CHARACTER. The side quests are awesome and feel important compared to 2018s, they help with world building. Odin was talking about a certain type of worship, people worshipped kratos for the monster he was in the original trilogy but thats not what kratos wants to be known for since he is trying to be better, not that hard to understand. Sindri is dealing with loss in his own way, kinda like its the underlining theme to both of the new games!!!! Having a huge fight at the end from kratos pov would have been weird, kratos didn't want the war so why would he be doing over the top spectacular shit? We still get good scenes from the fight and the best one is when kratos tell atreus to open his heart to the peoples suffering after telling him all this time to close it for so long. I think the problem here is that you are kinda dumb and don't understand the theme and tone of the game, and that is jarring and disappointing.
You’re ignoring how good the bosses were throughout the game. Garm, hrist and mist, nidhogg, Thor 1, side bosses were great. How is the finale being rushed make it bad? It closes every plot point brought up in the game except the horn, which will be answered in another game. You’re really complaining tyr did nothing. Really? How have they ruined sindris character? You just said “the last time we see him is broks funeral” OH NO WHAT A HORRIBLE CHARACTER. Sindris one of the best characters in the game. You think kratos is proud of being worshipped as the god of war that would destroy armies? You think he’s just gonna turn around and say “actually I have been worshipped”? That’s not in kratos’ character. How was Asgard bad? You’re just salty it wasn’t mcu-ified. The climb was necessary because Odin needed Atreus to see that he rescued the midgardians to make him look better. He’s also stuck as tyr at sindris house so he can’t go back to Asgard right away. You haven’t explained how side characters are under developed. Your point about the mask is just objectively wrong. If odin completed the mask and used it he would have become all powerful and unstoppable, “all truth”. Your point about us never finding out what’s in the rift is also like saying we never find out what’s in the box in pulp fiction, it’s not even a bad thing you’re just being childish. Your “glaring issues” aren’t even glaring.
@@MayorHairBear the thing that’s confusing for me is where does Sindri’s character go from here? Like I heard that Cory Barlog wants to move the series to another mythology like Ancient Egyptian (which is cool af), but I hope we meet Sindri again or other characters. I’m intrigued to see what happens next and how long we will have to wait for that. Since Barlog has stated he wants to make other games not just GoW
Yeah I didn’t buy that he died when it first happened, I thought for sure we’d revive him, until I noticed Lunda took his in-game role which started to make me doubt then I fully accepted he was dead once the funeral went around.
Overall, I liked it. The combat was an improvement over the 2018 game, even if it still retains some of its issues. I found Thor and his family dilemma to be the best part of the game. The Kratos/Freya section and the journey that came with it was also dope. However, the wack-as-fuck pacing, uninteresting side quests, boring Atreus sections, lack of truly 'wow' moments (outside of the first Thor boss fight), terrible 'modernized' dialogue and underwhelming conclusion held the game back. I'd say it's about on the same level as GoW 2018, though for different reasons. Still doesn't come close to touching the quality of the original trilogy.
I agree with pretty much everything, except for the side-quest I actually thought the side-quest were amazing and they were far superior than any game I have played before. (Also I haven't played the original trilogy so I can't comment on that) (Edit 2: There were some more wow moments for me: The lyngbakr, getting surprised by gna, the hafgufa's, the finisher with Kratos and Atreus as a bear and Brok's funeral (the riddle))
The side quests were good and acc felt important compared to 2018's, so i disagree strongly on that point. There were plenty of wow moments, like the thor and heimdall fight, the two valkry fight near the end, when you put freyr over your back and cut through hordes of enemies and even stuff like the depressing dreams kratos haves is chilling just because of the music, so i disagree strongly again Your modernized dialogue point is just a strange complaint and is just kinda wrong, you are grasping at straws at this one. The conclusion was great, kratos has finished his development of becoming at better person and not just some killing machine that the gods and his anger for them made. Atreus has finally found what his purpose is and both him and kratos have learned to move on and let go of lost ones together. The game is really good when you understand whats going on, but ig you just want another mindless hack and slash 🤷♀
@@Aidan977 Depends on what you see as the conclusion. If you mean the conclusion as Kratos his personal development, I agree its pretty good. But when you see Ragnarok as the conclusion of the story, its kinda underwhelming, Freyr dieing felt unneccesarry and while running through the hordes of enemies I was constantly thinking "is this it" luckily the 2 fights at the end save it, yet I feel like just in 2018 the ending didn't do justice to the rest of the game.
Broks death had some impact but why did they have us go to the inn first before his funeral? His corpse is literally just dumped on a table with no fanfare there! No flowers, no wrapping, no nothing! Just ridiculous, I couldn't take it seriously.
No. The game is a 8-8.5/10. I loved 2018 and the reboot was seriously a breath of fresh air. The idea that this game is a masterpiece with the haphazardly thrown together story is just laughable.
God Of War Ragnarok is as good as my opinion says it is. Your copy is as good as your opinion says it is too. Its not a perfect game but I enjoyed most of the sixty hours it took me to complete the story. Edge goes to GOW 2018 for the way it totally changed the game and made me interested in a series I didn't much care for before then
I enjoyed the game but it was nowhere near as good as people claim it to be. It was pretty much “meh” throughout the entire game. Definitely not game of the year contender worthy.
It's taken me awhile to process this but Gow Ragnarök is a good game or arguably great game, despite my nit picks. I think it would've been amazing or even a masterpiece had the Ragnarök segment not have been rushed and short. It could've hugely benefited with 1-2 more hours. That's really my main disappointment.
From a Norse mythology and gameplay perspective; I'm disappointed. Several bosses I was looking forward to in the same vein as the previous games are either omitted or turned to allies. No Tyr fight, Heimdall is beyond strange and the hand-wavy "No thinking" excuse doesn't work, Fafnir is relegated to a side quest in 2018, Ullr is nowhere to be seen, as is Hrym. Surtr is an ally who sits off screen as we fight a couple of a previously used bosses. Thor and Garm were the closest things to what I wanted from the game. Well, Fenrir was what I wanted, but we had to have that weird possession thing with "Fenrir" after. Say what you will about the simplistic writing and often-times botched accuracies to the mythos, but rarely did the previous games leave you wanting in terms of it's roster of boss battles. The norse games' writings make for a great deconstruction of Kratos, but you had to do all this "calming the rage" arc in the 2nd most violent mythology, and banish a good chunk of potentially amazing fights to friendly NPCs cause you took a pillar of the mythos and fan-fic him to be the son of the main character? I don't want to imagine what would happen if they tried to do an Aztec/Mayan game next. Kratos would sit down with his grandson Huitzilopochtli and talk at Camazotz during a 5 minute cutscene after fighting his Generic Rock Monster Boss 6 and 7 stand-ins
The game has the best bosses in the series what you on about? Thor 1, garm, hrist and mist, nidhogg. What comes with scale is that you’re not actually fighting the character you’re fighting fingernails and crab legs in gow 3.
@@juwyjewy652 if you read; I said Garm is the exception, as it’s a Fenrir fight in all but name. And Fighting Poseidon’s hippocampi is a hell of a lot closer to fighting him than Fighting Surtr’s Soul Eater 6 and 7 stand-ins
@@juwyjewy652 The same reason you fight Typhon in GoW 2, Kill Icarus in GoW 2, Fight Cronos and Gaia in GoW 3. Fuck, you fight Garm who’s basically Fenrir, down to the lore of being a ravenous rampaging monster who ate literal concepts, and there were few who hated the gods as much as Fenrir.
@@RetroWrathX13B all of those characters are villains though. It wouldn’t make sense to fight surtr. Lol if you wanted to fight surtr thats fine but they gotta keep it consistent with the lore.
The only part I disagree with is the characters droning on. Imo it’s one of the best parts of the game just listening to them banter with each other and flesh out this interesting world. The performances as well are great so for me it’s one of my favourite aspects of Ragnarök
As someone who is a victim of childhood abuse and manipulation, I knew from the getgo Odin was using and abusing Atreus, it's very clear if you've faced abuse before. Gaslighting, uncertainty in words/behaviour. Feigned threats or threats that are never delivered on, there's a lot to unpack with how Odin treats others. What SM did with Odin is...scarily, frighteningly realistic. To others who haven't faced abuse, like you said he seemed likeable, and you didn't think he was upto anything, but that's exactly what narcissists want you to believe.
Your conclusion almost matches mine (I did not mind the fast pace at the end) :) I do prefer both Gow 2018 and Ragnarök over at least 3 tho, as for me the emotional impact of the writing and acting just hits so much harder and overall I prefer TPS over hack n slash. III is great regarding the boss fight density tho, that game had very little fat :D
@@morbincentral3607 Subtleties? LMAO you people crack me up. Ragnarok is a game that unironically took all of 2018 world building and slapped a "fake information, don't worry about it" label on it. This game's story is a complete joke.
That stupid mask. Why they made it a lynchpin for the main villain but never bothered to give a glimpse of what was behind it was a grave misstep. Odin did everything for that mask. Ragnarok, the actual event, is eclipsed, in the end by his desire for the mask but we know absolutely nothing about it. What is it? What exactly is behind it? And after all he did to get it, all it took to undo the flimsy thing was breaking it in half and watch it disappear behind that 'green tear' thing. And that was it. So why was Odin in the game? When all is said and done, what purpose did he serve? The comparisons to Zeus are inevitable and boy was he leagues above and beyond grandpa 'give me my mask'.
Odin was in the game because he: Imprisoned mimir in a tree for 115 years. Banished Freya to Midgard and manipulated her son to his eventual death. Killed ymir the first giant and watched his blood nearly drown all other giants. Oppresses all the other realms with einherjar. Murdered groa because she told him the truth. Sent magni and modi to their deaths. Kills Thor. Attempts to kill third. Beat kratos in a fight fair and square. Manipulated Atreus as tyr so that he would run away to Asgard. Odin would have won if it wasn’t for brok. Zeus got possessed by a box and got dominated by a weaker kratos in a fight. Yea I don’t see the comparison.
If they just had cut 2 of the 3 times you have to ride the animal, and maybe split ironwood into 2 parts I think it would've been better. But that is the only section of the game that is tedious imo.
In Norse the 'ei' is like the 'ai' in stain, not like heim in Deutsche albeit both come from Proto-Germanic *Haimaz, as does English 'ham' in place names.
GOWR and GOW 2018 is Like HZD and HFW The sequels of these games do Most Things Better But The Previous games had more of an impact and had better Story telling
I got 4 problems with this game. 1: some dialogues is pure cringe. 2: has some intense pacing issues. Like 90% of ironwood and that "Tour" through Asgard. But Kratos both got more and longer missions that offers awesome side content. And all Atreus missions were pretty short... Well except for ironwood. 3: Unfair attacks in combat made by some enemies. Although it's not anywhere near that many unfair attacks from some enemies. 4: the game is so extremely easy till' ironwood on ng+. I had to nerf myself to lvl 8 for the first two missions then go up one lvl when i got to alfheim. Then after ironwood the game became perfectly difficult again. Other than that, great game 8 - 9/10 game. One of my personal favorite games.
@@MayorHairBear i just started ghost of tsushima a few days ago.. so far its kinda boring and the main character is like ben stein level dry.. but i'm going to try to stick with it.. i feel like it'll get better.. a lot of people love it so im still looking forward to what comes next
I think GoW is so overated ! It's not even close to open world. It's hand held like crazy. Camera is awful. Combat is the best part of the game, but problem is it gets boring, just not enough weapons in my opinion and playing with anyone other then the God of war sucks! His son is down right awful to use and has made me stop playing. I've hit a huge wall playing this game. This story also is so boring to me. I honestly don't get why so many people like this game. I think after 90% players finish this game they will forget about it and move on.
I felt that this camera style's capability has already been maxed out with the kind of variety of encounters its thrown at. I really hope they consider bringing back the camera. It will be a benefit to all aspects of the game.
Anyone who says they hate it wil have had to have played it on the hardest difficulty before I listen to theme these the same peaple who didn’t make it last ginichiro in sekiro
This game is better in every way than the God of War 2018 game. The only complains I have are the drawn out Atreus sessions where it kills every replay value and the ending with Ragnarok felt too rushed, should had been a longer more epic fight overall. And I don't know about you guys but I pretty much did everything there was to the game except kil all the gravewalkers, and Odin was a PUSHOVER! he was helpless against my attacks. It just felt really anti climatic when they were building him up all this time.
Can someone explain to me why does kratos has to have a good ending? Why does things have to end well? Look at the ending of god of war 3 and this, I don't get how the characters of this game treat kratos well or be friendly, like what? I think that there are certain things that don't have a way to be redeemed. If someone kills an inimaginable amountot people and create huge amounts of damage, how home this person has the right to try again? I really don't get it
I'm going for the platinum too right now, and I must say that the game has some flaws indeed, and it feels like playing GOW 1.5 at moment, but the story made me cry alot more than I could admit so it's tough love but it is a good game overall indeed! Great video man and sorry about YT...
In GoW 2018 Sindri says that Brok's skin gradually turned blue due to forging metals with his bare hands (Brok says he doesn't wear gloves because he likes to get a feel for the metal). It's a very real condition called argyria, which turns your skin blue from too much exposure to silver. Plus if Brok just woke up from his incident and suddenly had blue skin he would've been more than a little suspicious lol.
I do remember that but I always considered that like a half truth. Maybe he had tinted skin from that but Sindri was not above lying to his brother and Brok does have his suspicions
@@MayorHairBear ok but you are wrong tho
Spïder bite
@@Aidan977Notice how he doesn’t care
I agree on the ending feeling very rushed. I think it would have been better for this game to end with Brok's death and have all of the preparation for Ragnarok and the battle itself take place in a third game.
What an ending that would have been!
I would've been pretty mad if that happened. They definitely could've made Ragnarok be a little more epic though. You fight what, 10 enemies on the way to Thor? Lol
@@StevelyBruckShut Yeah Ragnarok definitely needed some work 😂
Interestingly enough apparently Cory Barlog told the director that Ragnarok had to happen in this game and that it couldn't be a trilogy
@@gamesthatshouldbeframed3760 its because the studio didnt want to work solely on norse mythology for a decade
The ending is not just rushed. Most parts of the story are straight up illogical and simply made to be convenient for the plot to follow and story to reach a rushed conclusion.
I loved GOW 2018. I like Ragnarok -gameplay, side quests, character moments. But completely dislike the story.
Care to elaborate?
I hadn’t gotten a strong emotional reaction to an ending of a game like this since the first Last of Us. The final act did feel rushed in places but I felt the characters were all written so damn well that I could excuse it
Thank you for finally being the first person I’ve seen who acknowledged how ragnarok felt rushed and not really impactful at the end. I’ve finished the game and felt this sour taste of something missing, and after some time thinking I’ve realized the problem is not just that it was rushed, but that the whole game was spent lowering the stakes to a point where there was really nothing risky at all in the battle. The first hour of the game in honestly almost perfectly, having this feeling of “everything is f*d up”. The world is all dark and every enemy seems to be so much powerful than you, and avoid the endgame at all cost seems to be the only right choice. But as the game progresses, you discover that ragnarok won’t destroy the entire world, only asgard. They keep reaffirming how prophecies JUST MIGHT be changed, so I wonder if kratos will really die… They show how odin is on its way to have no allies at the end, how all the realms are willing to help you in a single instant (when some of them should hate you), and I don’t even want to start with surtr and the giant wolf that can literally eat worlds. and at the end, odin doesn’t really have the mask because by a nice trick shot of kratos you have it back. So now, what can odin really do? He doesn’t have the mask, or a strong army, in fact if we want we can take a walk in the park of every realm before going to the fight. What really is the stakes here? The battle was already won from the start. And the pay off was still bad. We fought thor, then odin, and that was it. We always had the advantage. When I thought something different would happen, like the ragnarok turning against ourselves and offering an actual threat to the world, IT JUST CUTS TO ATREUS WAKING UP IN THE BED. This ending was so frustrating to me. I really enjoyed most of the game, and it hurts to say that this and some other problems stuck with me the most. Although I think the packet overall is better than 2018, I can’t really see the masterpiece everyone is talking about.
Absolutely this. Once it was revealed that Ragnarok meant just the destruction of Asgard it felt like all the tension just vanished.
100%
I'm not gonna try and convince you of anything but after deliberating with some other people of the ending it felt like it could have went both ways with either kratos or Odin dying depending on the capacity of their change
Since Odin didn't change at all and Kratos did an immense amount and hearing "you are the sum of your choices" from the norns makes the seemingly rushed ending fit in retrospect
It may have not been what everyone wanted
But it definitely wrapped up with little to question
People have been saying that since they finished. I found it the worst part of the game along with the needless joutenheim section. Looks like they sacrificed Ragnarok for that
Yeah, it really feels to me that this is a classic case of when art meets commercial interests. It really feels like some many things were changed to accommodate future sequels and that this took precedence over telling the right story.
Despite it’s flaws, Ragnarok to me personally has the biggest, hard hitting emotional moments in the entire series.
In my opinion, Kratos seeing Faye’s shrine and seeing that Faye always believed he could become a true god of peace and prosperity, a hero. That really brought the entire franchise together for me and if Kratos’ storyline ended there and he only appeared in future God of War games as a cameo or side character, I wouldn’t mind that at all.
His transformation from the Ghost of Sparta to a hero has been nothing short of beautiful to see.
I do have issues with the narrative and gameplay, some that even could’ve been remedied in a third installment, making this a trilogy instead of a duology, but the 2 titles we received have been nothing short of amazing tales and a wonderful spin on the God of War franchise. This game alone made me fall in love with the OG trilogy all over again and it completed 2018 where I felt that game was missing something to me. Ragnarok was the missing piece.
SMS said they didn't want to spend 15 years in just one trilogy.
@@leonardocosta6038 I just want to know one thing
when did they turn it to a duology
was it at the start of ragnarok's production
or like halfway through it?
@@fasoooli2751I think when they began work on it, Cory barlog the director of 2018 said to do it in 2.
So you like Kratos as a beta male cuck
@@yaboirichard591 I can tell you’re 30, still live with your mum and don’t know what a woman feels like
That's a hard no from me. I've commented elsewhere that it suffers from the same issues as Kingdom Hearts 3 as in the majority of the interesting plot points, or rather what you're waiting for to happen happens within the last few hours of the game. The final Thor and Odin battles aren't epic in scale as the Baldur fight was, or anything from the Greek games. While the combat in GOW is arguably 'better.' The last boss battles in KH3 were better than what GOWR mustered, that being said GOWR overall had better boss battles in general.
I find Heimdall to have some sort of cognitive dissonance. I don't know if he just can't see into Odin's mind and see that All-Father only really cares about himself, or if he actively ignores everything that would appear in someone's mind like Odin's. Which makes him a complete fanatic in either case, but creates a question of the capabilities of Heimdall.
The pacing comes to a grinding halt in Jotunheim, I was so goddamn bored that I couldn't wait to get out of there and getting back to play Kratos. Even when Kratos wasn't an active protagonist for the majority of the game.
The game is a 6.5-7.5/10 for me. All this talk of masterpieces had me taking a much more critical look at the game, and I don't think it deserves that commendation. It's good, or even really good, but masterpiece it is not.
Oh and other criticisms, Freyr had no time to endear himself to the player, the elven armies putting down their arms to join Ragnarok just comes off as lazy.
I swear, your 5000 subscriber special feels like just yesterday.
Congratulations on everything you've achieved. It's amazing to see these videos - which you clearly put a lot of effort into, finally getting some of the recognition they deserve.
Keep doing what you're doing and I know you'll achieve even greater!
Yeah I know, 2022 was crazy for the channel! Thank you mate, appreciate the kind words!
After 100% completing Ragnarok I went back to 2018 for a minute and I noticed every little thing that Ragnarok improved immediately. Feels so much better and it's kinda hard going back to gow2018 after the absolute banger that Ragnarok was
Yeah I get that same feeling too, I just don't know if I could go back to 2018 and enjoy it as much
@@MayorHairBear I only went back cuz I didn't 100% it yet but after seeing how many ravens I missed in Midgard I immediately went back to Ragnarok 🤣
@MayorHairBear 2018 has a few more big and dramatic set pieces. Balder 1 makes the build to balder 2 and its over the Top action much better.
Thor 1 implies a much more intense second or third fight later on and while Thor 2 isn't a bad fight it feels much less intense. I get from the narrative it had to be smaller but from a video game perspective the finale of ragnarok needed to be bigger and more over the top TO PLAY. Again as a narrative it worked wonderfully but as a playable set piece it pales next to the Garm build up and the opening hour
there were TWO scenes that made me have a "WTF moment"
Scene One: Kratos, Mimir and Atreus arrive at Sindri and Brok's house. Everyone retreats to their rooms to regroup and rest. Kratos and Mimir go into one room and Mimir asks "so, What now, brother?" and camera pans-out and Kratos is closing the door whilst looking back over his shoulder at Mimir... very out of character.
Scene Two: Surter basically talked himself into letting Kratos stab him in the chest w the primordial fire... it felt was very rushed and counter to the very fleshed-out,rest of the game.
That being said, better than 2018. 9/10 for me
I’d love to see you review the Bayonetta games! The second is when it started getting really good. While they are Platinum games, they made me feel nostalgic for first trilogy God of War and totally hold up gameplay-wise (imo)
The Bayonetta series is definitely on my to do list!
Personally after platinuming it and definitely quite some hours I thought the game was pretty good but not as world breaking as people said. Also wish some realms especially Asgard could be explored more. Still had a good time tho and great video my guy 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I would agree with that, especially the explorable realms. I would've loved some more optional content in Asgard. Glad you enjoyed the video mate!
Something about how this game turned out (lore wise) reminds me of Xenogears.
So much potential unfulfilled due to a rushed 2nd half.
in short . absolutely not ,i have never seen a game wasting so much potential ever at least in terms of story
Yeah, with the exception of Atreus segments and the absence of continuity with 2018's GOW big plot points, like who blew the horn and modi (I suspect he was alive after atreus stabbed him)
If there was ever a better character to show others that vengeance, blind rage and showing no mercy isn't the way, it's Kratos. All it ever got him was a dead wife and daughter who's ashes are still fused to his skin, several painful trips to Hades, a whole pantheon of gods killed and the ultimate destruction of Greece.
You're spot on!
We expected to much all those theories went to waste😢
Answer to title is: yes
Except atreus segments
I feel the opposite
If you like bad lackluster goyslop
@@EldenLord1142 wat
@@nick_4972 it sucks get over it gow ragnarok would be a better 6th game
It was just awesome seeing Kratos actually finally win...
It also brings up another point...
If Kratos would've hit Thor in the head with that 🪓 ?
There would've been no more Thor🤯
You're spot on mate and absolutely if Kratos wanted to kill Thor he'd be gone!
The only thing I have to say is if heimdal has foresight, why can’t he foresee a spear that blows up
he can see peoples intentions so I assume the spear overwhelmed his sense’s because it has infinite spawns and he would know it can explode
Somehow I found hrolf to be harder than Gna I don't know if it was my lack of skill or just luck but it took me twice as long to beat him than Gna. Also love your content man keep it up.
Thank you mate, glad you like the videos! Yeah I've heard a few people say Hrolf was the harder of the two but I somehow beat him my first try
hardly anyone is even talking about GOWR anymore. pretty much tells you all you need to know. if you like it, this isn't a personal attack. its an objective fact that the game doesn't have a ton of replayability
The answer is yes and yet it’s not as good. The actual “Ragnarok” part of God of War Ragnarok was extremely underwhelming.
I would agree with that
I h8ed the Atreus parts. Had to switch to the easiest difficulty everytime just to speed run past them. IMO it destroyed this games full potential. I can see why they designed like this but idc i didnt dig it.
It should have been a trilogy because it was way too rushed but the Game is still amazing just not like I expected.
Very well said
Having this a trilogy wouldn't have worked, kratos development of being a better person and father comes to a awesome conclusion in this game, there wouldnt be a lot you could do with him the third game if the focus was still on ragnarok. Also having the third game just being the fall of asgard would have been lame as hell.
I think it's No.2 after 2018/GOW2 which I cannot decide between.
It would have been top if it had 1 more thing
A much bigger and more expanded Ragnarok set piece. Nearly everything building up to Ragnarok was about as perfect a story and narrative as I could have wanted
The menu in Ragnarok alone was a problem, poorly executed and overly complicated for no reason. How can you not see that? The 2018 game was better in many ways, but that's not to say I did not enjoy it, but it felt like a 1.5 to me.
The mask and crack were such macguffins that I thought I was watching a Star Wars movie. There was way too much retconning, and plot convince. The story overall was lazy. Odin being Tyr was literally just for shock value. I did nothing else for the plot. Like who wrote this, JJ Abrams.
What did it retcon? Odin was manipulating Atreus as tyr and made him run away to Asgard, if Odin had completed the mask he’d have infinitive knowledge and won the final fight. He would have won if it wasn’t for brok.
I also thought the ending felt a tad rushed, which is funny because the game has very slow pacing otherwise, not that I did mind.
And I agree with your rating, God of War 2 to me is just the most solid experience from beginning to end and the one I am most likely to replay still, but the newer games are still knockouts.
And I don't know about Ragnarok being the better game, I still am incredibly partial to Sigrun and she still remains the best boss battle in the series for me and one of my favorite ever boss fights, nothing in Ragnarok tops it imo. Ok in hindsight Ragnarok is a better game in everything but Sigrun still is my favorite part about the 2 games.
Great video and loved that you really enjoyes the game as much as I did.
That is funny isn't it, I don't mind the pacing but yeah, the pay off isn't as well executed as I'd like. I've heard Sigrun is great but you gotta evaluate the whole package 😂 Glad you enjoyed the video mate!
Finally, I've been waiting for this, yes
i feel like ragnarok may seem better than 2018 in every way, and though that is true to an extant, imo 2018 just had a better kratos. Like mans was jumping off that one mountain onto the dragon to chase after baldur, and that one scene when kratos just stood there while the dragon looked like it was about to fall on him was just crazy. Maybe it's just because 2018 is what introduced me to the gow franchise, but i honestly didn't feel as much excitement with ragnarok's story. Also imo baldur is a better antagonists than thor and odin combined, like baldur is still the only person to actually throw hands with kratos. And though kratos vs thor round 1 was sick, kratos vs baldur near the beginning of gow 2018 is still the best introductory to a piece of fiction ever. Gow 2018 was also the first time we got to see kratos "main" a weapon other than the blades of chaos, as u would use the axe for over half of the game. Ik i just wrote a whole paragraph that will change nobody's mind on how good ragnarok is, but honestly, even if ragnarok is better than 2018, it is not by much at all.
GOW Ragnorok feels like a story of a bit of naive ambition. With a name like “Ragnorok” I felt like there should have been more spectacle and buildup. For example (SPOILER)
When brok dies, all of kratos’s allies seek to build armies. This seems to happen way too easy. The elves just agree to a truce, hellhiems army is covered, and everything happens too quick. Instead of us playing through all those story points, everything is rushed into the end. It feels like Santa Monica wanted to flush out this story entirely, but with only one game. However it feels like in the development of this game everything was finished before ragnorok itself. Every story beat, including the final moments of the story, hits like a truck; except ragnorok itself. The story is great, but the way the story flows into “the war to end all wars” feels like writing down a word on a page with the first letters being big, and each subsequent letter getting smaller and smaller as it approach the end of the page.
its not the war to end all wars though, kratos himself didnt want war so why should it be a spectacle of glory?
The gathering armies part did feel rushed but they had to wrap it up so idk
I cant give Ragnarok game of the year. As much as i loved it, i had more than a few gripes. Most of 2018's combat was recycled to this game. Sure, there were some new moves but not much (aside from the third weapon of course).
The finale was rushed, and just plain bad. I wanted a huge fight like the first fight with Thor at the beginning of the game. That did not happen. Even Odin was 3 on one and just felt too easy. To this day, no boss fight has surpassed Baldur in my opinion.
After rescuing Tyr, he proceeds to do absolutely nothing for the entirety of the game. Now after finishing the game, players understand why, yet this does not help Atreus' bit of "we need Tyr for Ragnarok." It was because of Tyr that they first began their journey. I just feel that bit fell flat.
Sindri. Oh Sindri. How they butchered your character. The final scene in the game shows Sindri disappearing after Broks funeral. Being that this is the last game in the Norse mythology, are we to believe we will never seen Sindri again? They handled his conclusion HORRIBLY. Especially since Atreus couldnt have known who Tyr was and that Brok would have been killed.
At one point, Odin asks Kratos if anyone has ever worshipped him. Since hes such a monster. Uh, yes. People have. All the spartans worshipped him in ghost of sparta and GOW2 but i guess the devs just forgot?? Huge wtf there.
Pacing issues. Ironwood. "Hey loki i have something to show you. Can we feed my animals first?" Far too long. Far too unnecessary. Asgard. The mythical grand city was nothing more than a normal looking village. And lets not forget the giant wall you're forced to climb. Not a bad climb, but still unncecessary imo.
Half of the side characters are too underdeveloped. I cant tell you how many times i said "who?" When someone mentioned a side character.
The mask. All that work to find the missing pieces just to destroy it? Seriously? Why bother having it in the story at all? There was literally no pay off. Where did the rift come from? Where does it lead? Never explained.
Atreus was far too eager to begin Ragnarok and start war. And far too many scenes were of Kratos saying "no" and Atreus saying "yes". A large part of the game is about the cost of war, but there was very little war aside from the final battle which was rushed. Even the big battle between Thor and Jormungander, who supposedly shook the realms and blew Jormund back in time, was nothing more than a scene happening in the background.
And yet, despite all these glaring issues, the game got a lot of 10s. I just dont get it.
Well said
I think you get it bro =) it's quite obvious, and youre right in all points. I have so many bad things about this game to say that I might aswell say nothing, to me this game is objectively bad, and it's funny because it's not a bad game per se (lol) but it's a bad game for gaming. It's a 4yo sony game that had lots of hype. And I mean LOTS. In 1 year there will be a lot of people making essays about this game and pointing every issue, this game will be considered offensive to the franchise, way more that ascencion. This game has dated design and will be forever the game that cost the most and delivered dated walk forward hear exposition 'game'.
people forget that Atreus is still a child and they wanted tyr so badly to follow prophecy. This game is amazing and most your points wrong except for the pacing issues in ironwood.
The mask is used to move the plot along and to give thor and the rest of the gods in asgard some CHARACTER. The side quests are awesome and feel important compared to 2018s, they help with world building.
Odin was talking about a certain type of worship, people worshipped kratos for the monster he was in the original trilogy but thats not what kratos wants to be known for since he is trying to be better, not that hard to understand.
Sindri is dealing with loss in his own way, kinda like its the underlining theme to both of the new games!!!!
Having a huge fight at the end from kratos pov would have been weird, kratos didn't want the war so why would he be doing over the top spectacular shit? We still get good scenes from the fight and the best one is when kratos tell atreus to open his heart to the peoples suffering after telling him all this time to close it for so long.
I think the problem here is that you are kinda dumb and don't understand the theme and tone of the game, and that is jarring and disappointing.
@@lucasgraeff5391 did anyone ask?
You’re ignoring how good the bosses were throughout the game. Garm, hrist and mist, nidhogg, Thor 1, side bosses were great. How is the finale being rushed make it bad? It closes every plot point brought up in the game except the horn, which will be answered in another game. You’re really complaining tyr did nothing. Really? How have they ruined sindris character? You just said “the last time we see him is broks funeral” OH NO WHAT A HORRIBLE CHARACTER. Sindris one of the best characters in the game. You think kratos is proud of being worshipped as the god of war that would destroy armies? You think he’s just gonna turn around and say “actually I have been worshipped”? That’s not in kratos’ character. How was Asgard bad? You’re just salty it wasn’t mcu-ified. The climb was necessary because Odin needed Atreus to see that he rescued the midgardians to make him look better. He’s also stuck as tyr at sindris house so he can’t go back to Asgard right away. You haven’t explained how side characters are under developed. Your point about the mask is just objectively wrong. If odin completed the mask and used it he would have become all powerful and unstoppable, “all truth”. Your point about us never finding out what’s in the rift is also like saying we never find out what’s in the box in pulp fiction, it’s not even a bad thing you’re just being childish. Your “glaring issues” aren’t even glaring.
unironically i think that this is one of the best games in the past 3 years and i thought gow 2018 was overrated
Before knowing that Brok died I was hoping there was a side quest to save Brok’s soul so he could become whole again
I was expecting that too, such a sad end to his character
@@MayorHairBear the thing that’s confusing for me is where does Sindri’s character go from here? Like I heard that Cory Barlog wants to move the series to another mythology like Ancient Egyptian (which is cool af), but I hope we meet Sindri again or other characters. I’m intrigued to see what happens next and how long we will have to wait for that. Since Barlog has stated he wants to make other games not just GoW
Yeah I didn’t buy that he died when it first happened, I thought for sure we’d revive him, until I noticed Lunda took his in-game role which started to make me doubt then I fully accepted he was dead once the funeral went around.
No.
Try playing the ending from meeting surtur to the end on 5 tabs with a friend. Best gaming experience I’ve ever had. 🙌🏻
Overall, I liked it. The combat was an improvement over the 2018 game, even if it still retains some of its issues. I found Thor and his family dilemma to be the best part of the game. The Kratos/Freya section and the journey that came with it was also dope.
However, the wack-as-fuck pacing, uninteresting side quests, boring Atreus sections, lack of truly 'wow' moments (outside of the first Thor boss fight), terrible 'modernized' dialogue and underwhelming conclusion held the game back. I'd say it's about on the same level as GoW 2018, though for different reasons.
Still doesn't come close to touching the quality of the original trilogy.
I agree with pretty much everything, except for the side-quest I actually thought the side-quest were amazing and they were far superior than any game I have played before.
(Also I haven't played the original trilogy so I can't comment on that)
(Edit 2: There were some more wow moments for me: The lyngbakr, getting surprised by gna, the hafgufa's, the finisher with Kratos and Atreus as a bear and Brok's funeral (the riddle))
The side quests were good and acc felt important compared to 2018's, so i disagree strongly on that point.
There were plenty of wow moments, like the thor and heimdall fight, the two valkry fight near the end, when you put freyr over your back and cut through hordes of enemies and even stuff like the depressing dreams kratos haves is chilling just because of the music, so i disagree strongly again
Your modernized dialogue point is just a strange complaint and is just kinda wrong, you are grasping at straws at this one.
The conclusion was great, kratos has finished his development of becoming at better person and not just some killing machine that the gods and his anger for them made. Atreus has finally found what his purpose is and both him and kratos have learned to move on and let go of lost ones together.
The game is really good when you understand whats going on, but ig you just want another mindless hack and slash
🤷♀
@@Aidan977 Depends on what you see as the conclusion. If you mean the conclusion as Kratos his personal development, I agree its pretty good. But when you see Ragnarok as the conclusion of the story, its kinda underwhelming, Freyr dieing felt unneccesarry and while running through the hordes of enemies I was constantly thinking "is this it" luckily the 2 fights at the end save it, yet I feel like just in 2018 the ending didn't do justice to the rest of the game.
@@Aidan977 forgive me Jesus, for I have committed the greatest sin of all: having an opinion 🙏
Nah the sidequests were great
No it's better only downside I miss the gigantic fights of the Greek saga if ragnarok started like God of war 3 we would be talking
Broks death had some impact but why did they have us go to the inn first before his funeral? His corpse is literally just dumped on a table with no fanfare there! No flowers, no wrapping, no nothing! Just ridiculous, I couldn't take it seriously.
Yeah that was wild 😂
I was pretty underwhelmed with this. The 2018 game was better.
No. The game is a 8-8.5/10. I loved 2018 and the reboot was seriously a breath of fresh air. The idea that this game is a masterpiece with the haphazardly thrown together story is just laughable.
Hey, what did you didn't like about the story?
Oh no the game did not turned out exactly as i wished for so it is bad!! Dude, show me any other game from this genre that is better. Just 1.
Synthetic Man calling Freya a Mary Sue is the most ridiculous statement he has ever made like shes a fucking god
Amazing to hear you liked it so much! For me its so much better than 2018
God Of War Ragnarok is as good as my opinion says it is.
Your copy is as good as your opinion says it is too.
Its not a perfect game but I enjoyed most of the sixty hours it took me to complete the story.
Edge goes to GOW 2018 for the way it totally changed the game and made me interested in a series I didn't much care for before then
I enjoyed the game but it was nowhere near as good as people claim it to be. It was pretty much “meh” throughout the entire game. Definitely not game of the year contender worthy.
Imho: no, it's not. I was hugely disappointed:(
It's taken me awhile to process this but Gow Ragnarök is a good game or arguably great game, despite my nit picks.
I think it would've been amazing or even a masterpiece had the Ragnarök segment not have been rushed and short. It could've hugely benefited with 1-2 more hours. That's really my main disappointment.
I think you're spot on their, Ragnarok needed more love and attention
Haven't played just literally got my PS5 yesterday holy shit a hour video I'm watching
Amazing review! loved your review video of the whole series and was excited to see your Ragnarok review
Thank you so much mate, I'm glad you enjoyed it and the video was worth the wait!
From a Norse mythology and gameplay perspective; I'm disappointed. Several bosses I was looking forward to in the same vein as the previous games are either omitted or turned to allies. No Tyr fight, Heimdall is beyond strange and the hand-wavy "No thinking" excuse doesn't work, Fafnir is relegated to a side quest in 2018, Ullr is nowhere to be seen, as is Hrym. Surtr is an ally who sits off screen as we fight a couple of a previously used bosses. Thor and Garm were the closest things to what I wanted from the game. Well, Fenrir was what I wanted, but we had to have that weird possession thing with "Fenrir" after. Say what you will about the simplistic writing and often-times botched accuracies to the mythos, but rarely did the previous games leave you wanting in terms of it's roster of boss battles. The norse games' writings make for a great deconstruction of Kratos, but you had to do all this "calming the rage" arc in the 2nd most violent mythology, and banish a good chunk of potentially amazing fights to friendly NPCs cause you took a pillar of the mythos and fan-fic him to be the son of the main character? I don't want to imagine what would happen if they tried to do an Aztec/Mayan game next. Kratos would sit down with his grandson Huitzilopochtli and talk at Camazotz during a 5 minute cutscene after fighting his Generic Rock Monster Boss 6 and 7 stand-ins
The game has the best bosses in the series what you on about? Thor 1, garm, hrist and mist, nidhogg. What comes with scale is that you’re not actually fighting the character you’re fighting fingernails and crab legs in gow 3.
@@juwyjewy652 if you read; I said Garm is the exception, as it’s a Fenrir fight in all but name. And Fighting Poseidon’s hippocampi is a hell of a lot closer to fighting him than Fighting Surtr’s Soul Eater 6 and 7 stand-ins
@@RetroWrathX13B you never fight surtr that’s not a bad thing. Why would you fight surtr when he is against Odin in Norse mythology?
@@juwyjewy652 The same reason you fight Typhon in GoW 2, Kill Icarus in GoW 2, Fight Cronos and Gaia in GoW 3. Fuck, you fight Garm who’s basically Fenrir, down to the lore of being a ravenous rampaging monster who ate literal concepts, and there were few who hated the gods as much as Fenrir.
@@RetroWrathX13B all of those characters are villains though. It wouldn’t make sense to fight surtr. Lol if you wanted to fight surtr thats fine but they gotta keep it consistent with the lore.
The only part I disagree with is the characters droning on. Imo it’s one of the best parts of the game just listening to them banter with each other and flesh out this interesting world. The performances as well are great so for me it’s one of my favourite aspects of Ragnarök
Just a correction for 1:54.. Thor killed Kratos in this duel. Kratos did NOT duel Thor in a stalemate here.
As someone who is a victim of childhood abuse and manipulation, I knew from the getgo Odin was using and abusing Atreus, it's very clear if you've faced abuse before. Gaslighting, uncertainty in words/behaviour. Feigned threats or threats that are never delivered on, there's a lot to unpack with how Odin treats others. What SM did with Odin is...scarily, frighteningly realistic.
To others who haven't faced abuse, like you said he seemed likeable, and you didn't think he was upto anything, but that's exactly what narcissists want you to believe.
LADIES, LADS AND GENTLEMEN, THE ONE YOU'VE BEEEEEEEEEN WAITING FOOOOOR
Yh gowr was a slight letdown for me. Especially the story...
Your conclusion almost matches mine (I did not mind the fast pace at the end) :) I do prefer both Gow 2018 and Ragnarök over at least 3 tho, as for me the emotional impact of the writing and acting just hits so much harder and overall I prefer TPS over hack n slash. III is great regarding the boss fight density tho, that game had very little fat :D
I think that Ragnarok is better than 2 but worse than 3 personally
To answer the title of the video: Hell Yes
Don't spoil the video mate 😂
@@MayorHairBear oops sorry my bad
The fighting is really good,the story is somewhat convoluted
Your right about it being convoluted but when you understand all the subtleties, it make sense
Eh the story makes perfect sense, it just had a quick conclusion
@@morbincentral3607 Subtleties? LMAO you people crack me up. Ragnarok is a game that unironically took all of 2018 world building and slapped a "fake information, don't worry about it" label on it. This game's story is a complete joke.
God of Bore
That stupid mask. Why they made it a lynchpin for the main villain but never bothered to give a glimpse of what was behind it was a grave misstep. Odin did everything for that mask. Ragnarok, the actual event, is eclipsed, in the end by his desire for the mask but we know absolutely nothing about it. What is it? What exactly is behind it? And after all he did to get it, all it took to undo the flimsy thing was breaking it in half and watch it disappear behind that 'green tear' thing. And that was it. So why was Odin in the game? When all is said and done, what purpose did he serve? The comparisons to Zeus are inevitable and boy was he leagues above and beyond grandpa 'give me my mask'.
Odin was in the game because he:
Imprisoned mimir in a tree for 115 years.
Banished Freya to Midgard and manipulated her son to his eventual death.
Killed ymir the first giant and watched his blood nearly drown all other giants.
Oppresses all the other realms with einherjar. Murdered groa because she told him the truth.
Sent magni and modi to their deaths.
Kills Thor.
Attempts to kill third.
Beat kratos in a fight fair and square.
Manipulated Atreus as tyr so that he would run away to Asgard.
Odin would have won if it wasn’t for brok. Zeus got possessed by a box and got dominated by a weaker kratos in a fight. Yea I don’t see the comparison.
Should've been a ten second video saying "yes".
Should've been but isn't it more impressive I took that 10 seconds and made it 50 minutes long? 😂
@@MayorHairBear It sure is!
There are so many things to talk about, and this video perhaps sums it up the best.
I would love to see your take on Killer 7 or Shadows of the damned.
Never played Killer 7 but Shadows of the Damned was so fun, I'd love to go back to that one!
Hell yes, I've been waiting on this video for some time.
this game is easily a 9-10/10 I fucking love it
Answear to title: not even close
The only problem with rag is ironwood and even that has a reason to be there
If they just had cut 2 of the 3 times you have to ride the animal, and maybe split ironwood into 2 parts I think it would've been better. But that is the only section of the game that is tedious imo.
@@leonardocosta6038 agreed good sir🤝🏾
When we get ng+ and you can hold x through all the cutscenes I think it will be a lot more forgivable
not only that
but the entirety of it is locked off except for angrboda's House
so zero replayability for it with kratos
Answer to the title: definitely Not.
What are your reasons?
MayoHairBear. Let me know if you get this comment. I have much to say about this game.
Quick answer, NO. No it’s not.
Your delusional
In Norse the 'ei' is like the 'ai' in stain, not like heim in Deutsche albeit both come from Proto-Germanic *Haimaz, as does English 'ham' in place names.
GOWR and GOW 2018 is Like HZD and HFW The sequels of these games do Most Things Better But The Previous games had more of an impact and had better Story telling
now that i think about it, Freya is completely worthless to the plot and adds nothing to the game
I got 4 problems with this game.
1: some dialogues is pure cringe.
2: has some intense pacing issues. Like 90% of ironwood and that "Tour" through Asgard.
But Kratos both got more and longer missions that offers awesome side content. And all Atreus missions were pretty short... Well except for ironwood.
3: Unfair attacks in combat made by some enemies. Although it's not anywhere near that many unfair attacks from some enemies.
4: the game is so extremely easy till' ironwood on ng+. I had to nerf myself to lvl 8 for the first two missions then go up one lvl when i got to alfheim. Then after ironwood the game became perfectly difficult again.
Other than that, great game 8 - 9/10 game. One of my personal favorite games.
No, no it’s not that good as everyone says because everyone doesn’t think it’s that good..
For me, I won’t be able to reply this from the beginning for a while as the Loki parts are so boring and drag the overall experience down quite a bit.
You beat up a bear so as far as Bear representation goes no for Mayor Hair Bear. Take the bear out of the equation? Hel yes!
no
ragnarok imo was the best ps4 game period (i played on ps4 pro)
It'd be up there for sure. For me I think it's Ghost of Tsushima
@@MayorHairBear i just started ghost of tsushima a few days ago.. so far its kinda boring and the main character is like ben stein level dry.. but i'm going to try to stick with it.. i feel like it'll get better.. a lot of people love it so im still looking forward to what comes next
RIP to Kratos character, they butchered it quite well 👍🏾.
If PLOTHOLE was a video game .
Agreed.
I think GoW is so overated ! It's not even close to open world. It's hand held like crazy. Camera is awful. Combat is the best part of the game, but problem is it gets boring, just not enough weapons in my opinion and playing with anyone other then the God of war sucks! His son is down right awful to use and has made me stop playing. I've hit a huge wall playing this game. This story also is so boring to me. I honestly don't get why so many people like this game. I think after 90% players finish this game they will forget about it and move on.
I felt that this camera style's capability has already been maxed out with the kind of variety of encounters its thrown at. I really hope they consider bringing back the camera. It will be a benefit to all aspects of the game.
I'd love to see that too mate, pull the camera back and lets have some crazy combos again
Anyone who says they hate it wil have had to have played it on the hardest difficulty before I listen to theme these the same peaple who didn’t make it last ginichiro in sekiro
This game is better in every way than the God of War 2018 game.
The only complains I have are the drawn out Atreus sessions where it kills every replay value and the ending with Ragnarok felt too rushed, should had been a longer more epic fight overall.
And I don't know about you guys but I pretty much did everything there was to the game except kil all the gravewalkers, and Odin was a PUSHOVER! he was helpless against my attacks. It just felt really anti climatic when they were building him up all this time.
THATS why Brok is blue?? Was that ever stated???
Edit: Guess not
This good wasn't very great to me.
Can someone explain to me why does kratos has to have a good ending? Why does things have to end well? Look at the ending of god of war 3 and this, I don't get how the characters of this game treat kratos well or be friendly, like what? I think that there are certain things that don't have a way to be redeemed. If someone kills an inimaginable amountot people and create huge amounts of damage, how home this person has the right to try again? I really don't get it
ITS THE SAME SERPENT FROM 2018 IT DIDNT GROW AFTER THEY SAVED THE LITLE ONE
You're forgetting Thor knocks the serpent through time mate, watch some interviews with the director of the game
Your content is amazing!
Thank you mate!
Not even remotely
Yes absolutely
I’ll never know 😢
I'm going for the platinum too right now, and I must say that the game has some flaws indeed, and it feels like playing GOW 1.5 at moment, but the story made me cry alot more than I could admit so it's tough love but it is a good game overall indeed! Great video man and sorry about YT...
1.5? What's does that mean?
@@leonardocosta6038 Some elements feel like an expansion rather than a sequel, but I guess they don't need to fix what's not broken haha!
No it's not that Good....
Yes, yes it is.
Yeah
Yea?
Yea definitely
Yea.