Tennessee Crushed by Ohio State, Nico’s Heart, & Swiss Cheese Defense (Ep. 77) | Pancakes & Bacon
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- Опубликовано: 25 дек 2024
- On this week's episode of Pancakes & Bacon, VFL Kyler Kerbyson and Reed Bacon are looking to make sense of the ass-whooping Tennessee took against Ohio State. Kyler loves the heart he showed but was disappointed in Nico’s decision-making and awareness on the field. Reed was upset with the offense but really thinks the defense, being the strength of our team, was what hurt the Vols the most. It's a BIG episode so there's a lot to talk about... Download and subscribe TODAY!
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Tennessee is undefeated in hypothetical home games 💯
As a Buckeye, it was great seeing the support of the Vols fans. (with the exception of the score) We hope you had a great visit.
Thank for being gracious. Good luck in the tournament.
@@quovadis5036 Thanks but getting ur drivers door glass broken in the Hilton parking garage really sucks and police saying that they had reports of over 120 cars broken into . Personally I hope to never go back to Columbus again. Wish u the best in the remaining playoffs.
Can you imagine how many points OSU could have scored if they played starters whole game?
Don't gloat.
@@Melrose51653Why not? Tennessee gloated for 3 weeks leading up to the game. Talking about "Neyland North" Putting their goalpost into the river, planting the flag, checker boarding the stadium, B1G can't compete with the SEC, playing Rocky Top for a week in all the CBus bars...Vols deserve every bit of trash talking back that the Buckeyes give
Tenn, has 1 weapon, OSU has many......it's talent.
Facts!! I'm all Vol but we didn't have anything that they had. Not to mention play calling. Our offense is predictable, and our defense was conservative.
You do realize OSU pulled 1st string out in 3rd quarter.
I'm a realist, and even if the game is played at Neyland, we still would've got hammered! Our players simply couldn't match up! There's a massive talent gap!
Buckeye fan here. Y'all showed up at the Shoe and represented well. Good luck in 2025
Tennessee was outmatched at every position by ohio state
That’s what happens when you spend a lot of money
@@SteveAllen-x2mbuckeyes been better than Tennessee before money was involved. Player development and facilities all better too
lol yeah right
@@SteveAllen-x2m you think Tenn was better than OSU before nil? You think Tenn has better coaches? Better facilities? You're just lying to yourself
@@SteveAllen-x2mTennessee has never been at the same level as Ohio state, not the same kind of programs
There’s no situation where Tennessee beats Ohio State
Yeah the mental gymnastics were... something.
OSU much better team-way better-TN D did not show up-Overmatched
OSU could have scored 50 or 60-A team like TN should have had more than 1 running back-Sampson said he felt great before the game-when was he hurt?????Looked like varsity versus junior varsity
Even as a die hard Vols fan, I have to agree! The talent gap was too big and the play calling on both sides was better for Ohio State.
@@thomasorzack5795I couldn't agree more. For some reason our coaching staff feels as though they don't need highly rated RBs. Not to mention they're in love with small RBs, that have higher injury risk than bigger RBs. Not to mention they run them right up the middle every play!
OSU players are saying they knew every formation that Tennessee ran. OSU defense would see a formation and show a certain defense to make Tennessee change the play to what OSU wanted. They said Tennessee hasn’t changed anything since 2021. Eye opening.
Yeah I'm worried about UGA and Texas because how good is the SEC actually if the Vols got 10 wins running the exact same plays for 3 years in a row, or is OSUs scouting department really really good? I'm so confused.
Haha yea Ohio State coaches are the first team to realize they’re running the same plays for 3 years… suuuuuuuuurrrrrrreeeeeeeeeee
@Dave-854 so you think OSU is just the first team to expose it?
@@travisshuttleworth630 no I think the original post was just completely wrong. TN has dozens upon dozens of plays they can run out of every combination of formations and motions. Impossible to know what plays they’re going to run especially with QBs have headsets inside the helmets now.
It's common knowledge in the Big Ten that OSU has stolen practice footage from opponents.
I would be shocked if that wasn't the case with Tennessee and any other team they're going to face in the CFP.
You'll never find a bigger self righteous, hypocritical team, media and fanbase than those of Ohio State
Tennessee got exposed period. Our speed was like we was running in waders
We were not conditioned for this game. I was at the game. Our players were gassed in the first quarter. Seems like they got a couple weeks off and decided to just let the players rest while the other team was still working off a painful loss. Also, something I noticed was a lot of coughing. I could be wrong but it seemed like players were sick. Nico and the Olineman were coughing, limping, all kinds of stuff. But regardless, we got our 💩 pushed in. Being there was Hell as a TN fan. We had like 3 moments of excitement the entire game. The rest was just Ohio state fans rubbing it in 😂
@@Tony-mr1ivThat crisp cold air hits ya in your lungs. Especially running and sprinting. Can definitely make you cough.
@@jd3428Mos Def. And it was around 20°
@@stevencampbell3132It was only 4 degrees colder in Ohio than in Tennessee, it's crazy it would make that big of a difference, but I guess it did.
The truth:
Golesh was the reason for our offensive success.
Tim Banks isn’t a great defensive coach, he just had decent players that masked his deficiencies.
But he didn’t call the right games.
OSU outcoached us, they knew what we were gonna do.
Closer game at Neyland..
Because the fans traveled the noise really wasn’t a big factor at the Shoe.
We're gonna have to spend more money on our roster and recruit consistently top 5 classes
We need speed and we have none.
This is the recap I've been waiting on. I'm commenting a few minutes into watching but I hope y'all discuss how predictable this offense is and the comments from Ohio state defensive players talking about how they knew everything we were gonna do bc we haven't really changed since 2021. I'm not on the fire everyone train but it is concerning bc it kinda parallels some previous coaches we've had that's been too stubborn to change. Go Vols and Merry Christmas guys!
So much time me spent on hypothetical situations that would’ve made it LESS of an ass whooping. Lol. 😂
The cope here is incredible
I thought the SEC was better than that
The sec is better than that, Alabama, Georgia,ole miss,south Carolina,Texas.. Tennessee was poorly prepared and with the talent they do have could've played better maybe still lose by 10 Points at most!!! Glory to Georgia!!!!@@fodetoure1576
Thanks boys! Hope y’all have a merry Christmas, I’ve enjoyed watching y’all’s break downs, learned a lot.
People need to remember that just 4 years ago we were 2 - 8 with that being said the only thing that concerns me with this coaching staff is never doing halftime or in-game adjustments and like a previous comment said in this game there's never any wrinkles in the offense and apparently it's been the exact same since 2021 and has been slowed down the last 2 years because everybody knows exactly what's coming. I don't know if Heupel needs to hire a new offensive coordinator and just bring in a whole new offense but something definitely needs to change to win big games
Before watching this video I thought Tennessee looked completely outmatched, but yall have convinced me that Tennessee was actually equally as good and would have really for real won the game if it was in Neyland Stadium, thank you for pulling the wool away from my eyes, I feel like I can see again, god bless!
Ahhahahahhaahha 😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅 you lost by 25 points and osu put backups in with 10 min left!!! You got a late garbage time 7 points so it was almost a 32 point loss!
We were nowhere near equal to them. They had like 14 5*s and 41 4*, they had over 70 blue chips. We had only have 30 blue chips, the majority of our team is 3*s, it wasn't even close at all. We would get hammered no matter where we played.
@@chubbawubbahubb24I'm all Vol but you're correct. We would've struggled against their backups. OSU was flat out better at every position and we would lose no matter where we played.
@supersayin1 some people just can't admitt when a team is better than there's. I'd rather lose cuz someone is better than to shoot ourselves in the foot against a team clearly worse than us
Our guys were completely outmatched in every area and at every position. We looked small and slow compared to them.
Ohio State was bigger, stronger, and faster than our guys.
This game was basically what people think of when, they make the argument of a 3* going against a 5* and it was bad!
O-line has killed us.... rather Nico all Year. I didn't complain about it as much as I wanted to earlier in the season due to respect for Cooper. Also our Offense is ridiculous, run up the middle or a toss to the edge.... middle of the field is non existent
Accurate! Also let's run up the middle with small Arms rather than get them into open spaces. 😂 We haven't changed anything. Guess Coach Huep was telling the truth about not adding any wrinkles to the offense or defense lol!!!
Tim Banks, saw what we did in games where we lost and said let's do that and hope it works!! Conservative defense lol!!!
@supersayin1 we blitzed 8 times Saturday night, I'd hoped to see more
I saw an Ohio State fan say in a comment section that when our kids came out to warmup without shirts, that our kids were flabby and out of shape. After that, they knew Ohio State would win.
Best Vols podcast around! Disappointed with outcome of the game, but still encouraged by overall season of work. Future is still bright GBO! 🍊
TN has had zero creative offensive plays calls…..2 seasons now
Yet they had good offenses. You’re being blinded by a heisman caliber QB and receiver. Defenses adjust. They’ll stop that offense at all costs. Heupel adjusted based on their adjustments, and STILL there’s atleast 3-4 deep balls schemed wide open a game. We just haven’t hit them. We know the offense is “simple” and not “creative.” It wasn’t creative in 2022 either. The creativity of the offense isn’t based on play calls, it’s based on the actual set up of the offense. Thats how it has been the whole damn time. Watch the 2022 offense. Watch how many times we ran we screens and 5 yard hitches. Just because we actually hit on deep balls didn’t change the offense. Heupel knew what he had this year and adjusted to help our Heisman caliber RB and the defense was one of the best in the nation. Remember when people were saying that’s not possible with his offense? We lost in embarrassing fashion to OSU. But stop with this nonsense that is just flat out incorrect and an insult to your own intelligence.
@ you see other teams scheme up creative plays for that game and for what’s going on in that game……..Heupel does not.
@@appalachhaun_adventures You’re not understanding. The offense doesn’t function off of “creative” play calls. The offense works based on spacing and tempo. It’s a simple offense. IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN. Put simply, you’re talking out of your behind. Because if you hate this offense, you hated the 2022 offense. You don’t know football. That’s okay, but listen when someone is telling you that you’re not understanding something. Heupel has actually developed to an even better play caller based on his players available. We haven’t had Hyatt or Hooker. What we did in 2022 hasn’t been possible. We’ve seen deep balls missed all year. Hopefully Nico will get it together next year. But execution has been the issue. Not Heupel’s offense or play calling.
@@appalachhaun_adventures Even the deep balls we hit in 2022 were SIMPLE plays.
@@Tony-mr1iv maybe he needs to add in creative play calls here and there bro. That’d way I’m saying Geezus Christ lol 😂 🙄 if everything you do is the same 6 plays and nothing works……come up with something here or there to try and at least get that good matchup……do something different. U know just a couple plays here or there. Hell far. Not that hard to understand that bro. 😎
Good point about looking at the flats for a rb. Vs Arkansas, Sampson wide open in flat for winning TD on last drive and Nico didn’t see it.
It’s coaching Kyler. It’s Halzey. Golesh that wouldn’t happen.
Watch the film. QB not throwing the ball on TIME. Own it
I was at the game and can remember screaming "throw it" multiple times...i know I seen 1 play where he had a touchdown but didn't let go of it ...the game was a blur because there was so much shit going on around me I couldn't concentrate on the game, the osu fans are horrible
The Offensive line got to hold their ground to give Nico time to find receiver open. Can't do that when pursued by 2 or 3 OSU defensive players.
I’m a life long Buckeye fan and the game was as much of a surprise to me as it was to you. We all love college football because of how unpredictable it is. This one was great for us and tough for you but just three weeks ago we were as surprised and stunned as you when Wolverines pulled upset and our coaches looked like idiots. I’m not saying that luck determines the outcomes. I’m only say that football is an amazingly complex game in which a mistake by one man can negate perfect execution by the other ten and the wheels can fall off a good team with surprising ease. As a fan it is the opposite, all we can do is root and support the team we love and your fans turned up did that well.
Good grief. Go Bucks.
Losing to OSU was acceptable, of course. First 12 team playoff game, big stakes, against the most loaded team in the country.
Losing the way we did was absolutely unacceptable, In every facet of the game.......... 10 minutes out of 60 were competitive.
Every single problem that we saw during the regular season got put under a microscope on National TV.
I don't know if we would have won against OSU at Neyland, even playing a good game. How many down to the wire close games did we win this year there?
Ironically, the best game we played this year was against Vandy.
What I'm trying to say is that Heupel is a totally different coach on the road vs home. Extremely different. And that needs to change
Also, I watched nearly every OSU game this year, you are right Reed, they never played this physically tough all season. They got ready for us and beat us at our own game
Rather strange, at one time TN was favored to beat OSU.
@@Archie-z8oOSU was favored from the start.
Hope this opens Josh thinking around his play calling it was a tko.
I drove from Baton Rouge to go support my Vols. I was really disappointed by the effort from coaches and players but glad I got to see the first playoff game for UT and a trip to the Shoe.
So your saying had you played better and scored more it would have been a closer game? 😅😅
Reed I agree it isn’t Golesh offense. I do think Golesh runs circles around Halzey. I think Golesh attitude was cut throat and he ran more wrinkles. If it is not having the dogs then we have to agree that Pruett was a great recruiter and evaluator of talent.
Hire a new trainer because it’s not happening in the off season.
A few days before the game, Sampson said it’s the best he’s ever felt………😂🙄
I think once he felt the cold and the physicality of Ohio state's defense. After the first couple hits he tapped out he didn't want none
@ it’s been just as cold in TN….maybe a few degrees difference lol
@@appalachhaun_adventures one degree is the difference between liquid and solid
@ it wasn’t the cold bruh 🤣😂
@@appalachhaun_adventures what was it? Make it make sense to meee
What top teams is TN beating them Offense is limited to 17 points. TN scored 17 points against UGA and OSU.
Dylan Sampson not being able to go is why you do like Ohio State and have another 5* or 4* RB to back up the starter if he goes down.
Ohio State has 14 5*s on their roster with most starting. Tennessee as only 5 eleith about 2 starting and that's Nico and Bru.
Ohio State has over 40+ 4*s, while our Vols only have about 20+ if im not mistaken.
They only have 17 3*s and we have over 30+. With several 3*s starting.
This game wasn't close and the talent proves it!
I can't find the graphic but i saw it last night. That roster is why we got destroyed!
Tim Tebow and Cam Newton needed development in their early years in college football. You have to give Nico at least one more year to see if he gets better and gain some weight because that dude for his height is a toothpick
I was listenin to Cainer and he said we blitzed 8 time all game...8 TIMES! Banks did the same thing in the uga game, its like hes scared to blitz against better teams and thats where we make hay on defense
Banks coaches timid vs good teams!
Tennessee has a great alumni. You'll be fine.
TN offense sucks against SEC opponents. Hold TN offense to 20 points not beating any top programs.
I thought ohio state was soft?
All of the home game teams won. Surprised? What's the winning percentage at home? For Ohio State? What a setup!
Get better players
A lot of damage-controlled self-soothing on this podcast.The fact is ohio state has to much talent for tennessee and any other sec school. SABEN IS GONE .Now the sec is the 2nd best conference
@@Thethinker6141yeah and what sux is Ohio st comes down south and buys most of the good players
@@SteveAllen-x2m can't pay a QB 8 mill and bitch about other people paying players. OSU QB is only paid 2 mill...
@@Thethinker6141 It ain't over 'til it's over. Four of the last five champs were SEC and Bama was only one of them.. Michigan wins once and the Big 10 is the supreme conference in your dreams. Win it more than one year and talk your trash. Ohio State hasn't won in TEN years. The conference who has won the national championship only two times in the last ten years gets two home games. Good luck. No more home games.
The quote should be the cup of coffee was too strong.
Deep change is needed time to step in Mr White.
Rough weekend but hey it’s still great to be a Tennessee Vol
Burt Reynolds cant wait 2 make an excuse or unterrupt...😂
You had a good season and a post- season appearance . You lost to good team on the road. Doesn't make your team bad.
These 2 are like dumb and dumber. So you are saying there is still a chance.
Lol you guys are delusional if you think being at home would account for 25 points
Ol skinny burt Reynolds wont shut up😅
Dont matter where that game was played. Same result!
YOU COULD'NT BEAT THAT TEAM (OSU) I DON'T CARE WHERE OR WHEN YOU PLAYED. YOU WERE SO FAR OUT MATCHED YOUR LUCKY YOU DID'NT LOSE BY 50.
Buckeyes had 3rd and 4th string QBs out there most of the 4th quarter like it was a September game against a MAC school 😂
The offense has been generic all season. Very boring. Absent of big plays against talented teams. Hazle is not even on the same planet as Golesh. He needs to go. He’s pathetic.
The WR’s coach, Pope, needs to go. His WR’s aren’t physical and can’t get separation.
OL coach, Elarbee, needs to go. His OL has sucked since he’s been there. Swiss cheese.
The DL may be over rated as well. They rarely put a ton of pressure on a QB. Even against teams they had far more talent than.
The secondary under Martinez has been horrible. He had a few good years at Georgia but aside from that when has he ever been a top tier secondary coach.
Heupel is going to have to make some coaching changes and if he doesn’t, the Vols will forever be a 8 to 11 win team but never a national champion. The teams winning the national championship have top tier position coaches and are spending $20 mil plus to get the 5 star mercenaries needed to win it all.
All true!!
24 of 29 is need be said about this game. Dline got no pressure on Moss and he ate us alive. There was no rerouting of WRs
Whelp.......there's always Vandy next year......... Wait....... Pavia is coming back.....lets shoot for a close win against MTSU.
I have been concerned all year with our receivers not getting open. And it killed us. They exposed our linebackers constantly. But I agree with josh pate. Osu has probably the best roster and they finally showed up.
I love being a vols fan though. Went to mizzou game at mizzou and vols fans took over a restaurant and sang "it's good to be a tennessee vol" over an̈d over on campus.
Can't wait for our young guys to keep developing and to see where the guys go in the draft
You guys changed my mind on receivers. Yeah I have to admit I spend a lot if time asking the same questions of Nico that I did of joe. Why aren't you throwing the ball? You had a dude breaking open. Why are you dancing?
The problem is Tennessee fans think they are anywhere close to Ohio State since they had that horrible game against Michigan. It was just a massive talent gap... Ohio State and Oregon would win this game 10/10 times unfortunately. Give it a year or two with Nico and recruiting then I think you guys will actually be in a good spot.
Name one player on the vols that would start on the buckeyes 🤔
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Will Nico live up to the hype? I’m uncertain tbh. I mean I will say this. He showed a lot of heart in that game and maybe we will see more of that from him next year. Also, for every DJ U there’s a Jaden Daniels or Bo nix. Game slows down for different people at different times and for some like Milton or DJ it never does lol let’s be hopeful it slows down sooner rather than later for Nico though.
Question for y’all: I know heupel is mostly calling the plays but do you ever think Hazley is too much like heupel as far seconding everything heupel does or wants to do? Feels like golesh was a different mind than Heupel which led to more brainstorming playcalling. Just curious only y’all’s thoughts. I do think y’all are right though. Nico has to throw more with anticipation rather than trying to be perfect or find a coverage bust of someone wide open. It is odd though that he can have someone wide open and not see them or miss them but try and thread a needle with 3 guys draped on a receiver.
Kyler for offensive line coach 2025!
Lol the fans showed up until they started to get destroyed!!!! And left middle of 3rd quarter!!!
Yall were out matched all the way around.
A few plays? The score could have easily been 49-7.
There’s plenty of tape of Nico throwing to tight coverage. So why is he not throwing it when they’re obviously open??????? Our coaching??? Something telling him not to???? We see plenty of other QB’s let it rip when it’s tight coverage……
Listen, you have a passionate fan base, but it’s no different than Ohio State’s. We were dejected after Michigan, and lots of our fans didn’t show. Tennessee fans were dejected during the 3rd quarter and every single one left early. It’s the same thing. Buckeye nation travels better than anyone, also. Dejection is a real thing tho.
That pick he was totally face guarded should of been 28! Zip acc refs have a gift you must double nil money ever heard of jimmy haslam you could of had no jackson you were not winning that game let's keep it 100!
Nico was almost a 1 man team I think he ran for more yards than any player Tenn just didn't have a good night you will have those days it happens to every team OSU lost to ttun and no way should have but what can you do just look to next year GO BUCKS
The Vols are not on the same level as the Buckeyes. They were confident because the Buckeyes have not played up to there talent all year, that is why fans have been so frustrated with the coaches. Being on the road in cold weather and without running back did not help but would not have made a difference because Buckeyes playing up to there ability are just way better than the Vols this year. I mean our starters did not play in 4th quarter, think about that and our 4th string quarterback got in the game.
Player for player maybe one or two players on the Vols would start for the Buckeyes and one of them is probably the kicker.
Nobody travels like ohio state watch rose you won't believe it they have 6 million fans
Why is there 2 of u talkn
With all these OSU fans on all these TN sites, I wonder if when they got smoked twice in the playoffs (31-0 against Clemson, 52 hung on by Bama), did those tiger and Bama fans go to their sites and talk smack? These luckeye fans act like it’s their first to win anything.
Have a good cry. UT fans were talkin trash on every Buckeye site for a few weeks before the game as well as on game day. UT fans are weak, cry baby, delusional, mollycoddled, overblown, overrated dipsticks... just like the rest of the SEC.
24 of 29 is need be said about this game. Dline got no pressure on Moss and he ate us alive. There was no rerouting of WRs