I used to run an organic farm that we stocked with ACMC hybrid gilts. They had cross bred the meishan with a commecial white pig. the litters I had were 16-17 per sow.
For most farmers, homesteaders, is such a large litter considered an attribute? Seems like a hassle, problems of birthing & excess babies/youth on the sow & habitat?
@@boxcutter0 piglets are the main means of recuperating costs, so the bigger the litter, the better. If there is a lot of other competition, with a large litter you can afford to drop your price while still making a profit. Pigs are generally very easy keepers. The only issues we've experienced are two stillbirths from two different sows: one was the only baby in that pig's first litter, the other was one of nine born to a two-year-old miniature potbelly.
Considering the problems of disease outbreaks that come from China, I would be worried about having a breed susceptible to disease transfer. Plus do most small scale homesteaders want giant litters, seems like a hassle, often needing to cull excess youth.
@@boxcutter0on a homestead I would rather too many and need to cut back than too few. If someone is playing homestead maybe but if it is your food supply you don't mind the extra.
I raise Mangalista/ Meishn crosses. I wish I could find a young Mesian boar to strengthen that half of my breed. I find Mangalists boars, but haven't been able to find a Mesian. They are great animals.
Are there any breeders in Canada? I'm interested in their ability to digest a wider variety of diet than other pigs, so in that respect i can see them being cheaper to keep.
We are in Indiana and I have a friend who is breeding them. She even has piglets to sell. My husband has always said no to pigs but our friends have changed his mind.
Interesting facts... about China Pig breed. I once heard my grandma said, China had plenty of pig breed , and also served different health purpose to a person when try to cook with herbs. it seems true, pig really is an animal do great with medication.
The Best pig breeds come from China because they've been bred in that region of the world since very early. Pigs were domesticated independently in at least two locations of the world: in northern Mesopotamia by c. 10500 Before Present (BP) and in China by c. 8000 BP.
Pigs can be rebred, even with direct parents, with no complications. Morally, most farmers don't like to do it.but in the beginning, one boar repeatedly bred dozens of his own piglets. Then they separate flocks when numbers get high enough and exchange hogs every now and then to avoid inbreeding too much. But it takes a heck of a lot of inbreeding to see problems, it's kind of insane really. No wonder pigs are so fertile
@AmazingLivestockBreeds I currently am raising forest pastured mangalitsa, and the grow out period for them is difficult when you're first starting out from piglets. Raising breeding stock to full size before letting the boar on them, then waiting the gestational period, then waiting for butcher weight can have a huge dent on your bottom line the first couple years. (I'm currently experiencing this as we speak) so it's my recommendation to people who want these wonderful and delicious heritage breeds to keep a pen and raise them, while also raising berks or berk mixes with a 6 month grow out WHILE waiting on your heritage breed to start producing. Otherwise it's simply a money drain (still worth it) until they (heritage) come to age and weight.
@plainandsimple1 I found that with even a small creature like quail. Got a bunch and didn't realize the financial commitment until they were egg laying and slaughter weight. When I lost that entire flock to attack, I spent a few months saving before getting new chicks. I'm doing the same before getting my goats and chickens in the next year. Starting fresh for anything is a bleeder for those first few months
It’s true. I’m into my 3 year raising registered meishans. They do take forever to grow out. Just now coming into a steady supply of buyers. I sell weaned breeding stock & older barrows too. It’s a ton of work but the breed is so mellow. They get along with all the farm animal. I had a hen hatch & raise chicks in with a 450. Lb boar… those chicks ran from head to toe on that boar as he was lying down & he never flinched. Any other breed would have eaten those baby chicks. My only regret with the Meishan is that I had not learned of this breed sooner. Some folks raising hogs are crossing the Meishan sow/ gilts with the Berkshire boars & they have named the cross American black beauties. They take less time to grow out. Laura Jensen in Georgia has found a niche market for charcuterie style cuts. She is curing her hog meat for 14-16 months & is making a name for herself. Getting top prices for her charcuterie cured pork! 🔥👍🫶 I love it. She is proving it can be done.
This is an heirloom breed of hog, and should be preserved, BUT they would probably create an ecological nightmare if allowed to establish feral populations. (SEE JAVELINAS IN ARIZONA) Perhaps we could develop a niche market such as exists for acorn-fed hogs in Spain.
With all their wrinkles, and im thinking about any other animal with so many wrinkles, they appear like they would have more skin health issues and eye and nose issues. I dont know, sher pai have LOTS of skin issues...
The older males get what is called fat blindness. The wrinkles get so thick around the eyes that it actually blocks their vision. My boar knows his name… he comes when called….. listens for certain sounds. Feed dishes being filled etc. This is how he gets around. No skin issues whatsoever. Summer months, hot weather they will sleep for hours in a wallowing hole. Some have more wrinkles than others . Depends on the family group traits they most have. Re: USDA or the University of Illinois or Iowa state. After 25 years of study the 3 different groups took on their unique traits some got more wrinkles than others. All 99 pigs came into the US back in 1989. 33 each went to the 3 separate research facilities. From time to time…. I actually wash all my hogs around the eyes with a clean cloth to get any build up in the creases. It’s like a greasy waxy type substance in the creases near their eyes. The worse problem I have with Meishan’s ……. They are horny as hell! Gilts are screaming idiots during their heat cycles. You’d think someone were torturing them. Talk about loud…. One tries to out of the other in loudness. As far as I know… no skin issues. I’ve been raising them for a couple years. (3)
Researchers have quoted as the government in China controls ownership of purebred Meishan boars. Said for the average person it is illegal to own a purebred Meishan boar. Research centers in China raise the pure ones, as it has been relayed to me. I love this breed. There are now close to 1000 Meishans’ registered by the AMBA. More & more folks in the US are getting involved by raising registered stock.
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@@444truth Hebrews 7, 18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof. 19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
@@swamp-yankee that is a good point we found this with the rare breed sheep and near always had to separate off triplets and sometimes twins if the mother was being a pest.
@@AgnesMariaL kinda sweet though for impact. I raise a heritage mix feeders, and their impact near harvest is difficult to manage. I’ve seen what my friend’s sows can do too.
😂 it sounds a bit funny actually. But not too sure if Sha Pei originated from China. Chow Chow originated from China and it is kinda cute with its wrinkles. 🤣
I used to run an organic farm that we stocked with ACMC hybrid gilts. They had cross bred the meishan with a commecial white pig. the litters I had were 16-17 per sow.
wow
For most farmers, homesteaders, is such a large litter considered an attribute? Seems like a hassle, problems of birthing & excess babies/youth on the sow & habitat?
@@boxcutter0 piglets are the main means of recuperating costs, so the bigger the litter, the better. If there is a lot of other competition, with a large litter you can afford to drop your price while still making a profit.
Pigs are generally very easy keepers. The only issues we've experienced are two stillbirths from two different sows: one was the only baby in that pig's first litter, the other was one of nine born to a two-year-old miniature potbelly.
I had 3 of them. They’re good pigs.
Had? xD I wonder what happened to them
this: 🥓@@dudefrombelgium
Keep making videos. I love all the interesting animals.
Lovely animals! Would love to have them here in europe
Prolific breeders and quick maturing? Would be horrible if these were mixed in with the feral hog population.
Considering the problems of disease outbreaks that come from China, I would be worried about having a breed susceptible to disease transfer. Plus do most small scale homesteaders want giant litters, seems like a hassle, often needing to cull excess youth.
I don't know, if they did away with the aggression and rooting nature it might not be an issue at all.
@@boxcutter0on a homestead I would rather too many and need to cut back than too few. If someone is playing homestead maybe but if it is your food supply you don't mind the extra.
@@boxcutter0nothing wrong with eating baby pigs
yes, they would be overly prolific, but less destructive and aggressive !
I raise Mangalista/ Meishn crosses. I wish I could find a young Mesian boar to strengthen that half of my breed. I find Mangalists boars, but haven't been able to find a Mesian. They are great animals.
The American Meishan Breeders Association has a great network to tap into
@@AmazingLivestockBreeds Thanks I checked and I found a breeder less than a hundred miles from home.
I have a registered purebred Meishan Boer for sale. He was born on June 17, 2023.
I have 2 unrelated breeding pairs. Located in Maryland.
Are there any breeders in Canada? I'm interested in their ability to digest a wider variety of diet than other pigs, so in that respect i can see them being cheaper to keep.
We are in Indiana and I have a friend who is breeding them. She even has piglets to sell. My husband has always said no to pigs but our friends have changed his mind.
I believe there is a breeder near Edmonton AB
@@toad1976r Thanks! I will look into that, as one of our group travels back and forth between there and where we are!
Interesting facts...
about China Pig breed.
I once heard my grandma said, China had plenty of pig breed , and also served different health purpose to a person when try to cook with herbs.
it seems true, pig really is an animal do great with medication.
The Best pig breeds come from China because they've been bred in that region of the world since very early. Pigs were domesticated independently in at least two locations of the world: in northern Mesopotamia by c. 10500 Before Present (BP) and in China by c. 8000 BP.
Holy shit. Up to three litters in a year? They are the rabbits of the pig family.
i live in the Philippines and would love to have these on my farm.. is there any place in the pi that has and breeds them..
Immediately subscribed. Great content.
I love this canal
Has anyone raised this sweet temperament pig as pets what is their life span
They ARE cute! Ugly cute, but cute is indisputable!
Beautiful❤
theres a few at a rescue down here in Florida
So cool good stuff 👍
We raise them!!
This breed makes me like pigs again.
I have a Meighan ipp cross gilt that I'm going to cross to kune kune should be awesome piglets
Sounds amazing - great work! I'd love to get some off of you in a few years. Where you based?
I think that you should stop at meishan ipp. Putting in kunekune would just slow growth. Ipp has kunekune already . Btw is your cross good @ foraging?
How many sows and boars did they start with, you know genetic diversity? What temps can they take? Will they work in my area?
Pigs can be rebred, even with direct parents, with no complications. Morally, most farmers don't like to do it.but in the beginning, one boar repeatedly bred dozens of his own piglets. Then they separate flocks when numbers get high enough and exchange hogs every now and then to avoid inbreeding too much. But it takes a heck of a lot of inbreeding to see problems, it's kind of insane really. No wonder pigs are so fertile
Could they eat Kudzu here in the South? Man, I would love to see that.
I love a lazy pig, that's why I married one
How do the pigs stand up to mountain lions, wolves, and Grizzly bears???
They don't lol.
You can't have a gentle easy to handle animal without making it weak to predation.
Sure look delicious!!!!👀👀😋
Sounds like a good industrial pig
They have not been industrialized due to the slower grow out rate and being a marbled fat.
Aren't these a 15 month grow out for a 300-350lb live weight? Just like mangalitsa or kune kune?
Very similar!
@AmazingLivestockBreeds I currently am raising forest pastured mangalitsa, and the grow out period for them is difficult when you're first starting out from piglets. Raising breeding stock to full size before letting the boar on them, then waiting the gestational period, then waiting for butcher weight can have a huge dent on your bottom line the first couple years. (I'm currently experiencing this as we speak) so it's my recommendation to people who want these wonderful and delicious heritage breeds to keep a pen and raise them, while also raising berks or berk mixes with a 6 month grow out WHILE waiting on your heritage breed to start producing. Otherwise it's simply a money drain (still worth it) until they (heritage) come to age and weight.
@plainandsimple1 I found that with even a small creature like quail. Got a bunch and didn't realize the financial commitment until they were egg laying and slaughter weight. When I lost that entire flock to attack, I spent a few months saving before getting new chicks. I'm doing the same before getting my goats and chickens in the next year. Starting fresh for anything is a bleeder for those first few months
It’s true. I’m into my 3 year raising registered meishans. They do take forever to grow out. Just now coming into a steady supply of buyers.
I sell weaned breeding stock & older barrows too. It’s a ton of work but the breed is so mellow. They get along with all the farm animal. I had a hen hatch & raise chicks in with a 450. Lb boar… those chicks ran from head to toe on that boar as he was lying down & he never flinched. Any other breed would have eaten those baby chicks. My only regret with the Meishan is that I had not learned of this breed sooner.
Some folks raising hogs are crossing the Meishan sow/ gilts with the Berkshire boars & they have named the cross American black beauties. They take less time to grow out.
Laura Jensen in Georgia has found a niche market for charcuterie style cuts. She is curing her hog meat for 14-16 months & is making a name for herself. Getting top prices for her charcuterie cured pork! 🔥👍🫶 I love it.
She is proving it can be done.
This is an heirloom breed of hog, and should be preserved, BUT they would probably create an ecological nightmare if allowed to establish feral populations. (SEE JAVELINAS IN ARIZONA)
Perhaps we could develop a niche market such as exists for acorn-fed hogs in Spain.
With all their wrinkles, and im thinking about any other animal with so many wrinkles, they appear like they would have more skin health issues and eye and nose issues.
I dont know, sher pai have LOTS of skin issues...
The older males get what is called fat blindness.
The wrinkles get so thick around the eyes that it actually blocks their vision.
My boar knows his name… he comes when called….. listens for certain sounds. Feed dishes being filled etc. This is how he gets around.
No skin issues whatsoever.
Summer months, hot weather they will sleep for hours in a wallowing hole.
Some have more wrinkles than others . Depends on the family group traits they most have. Re: USDA or the University of Illinois or Iowa state. After 25 years of study the 3 different groups took on their unique traits some got more wrinkles than others.
All 99 pigs came into the US back in 1989.
33 each went to the 3 separate research facilities.
From time to time….
I actually wash all my hogs around the eyes with a clean cloth to get any build up in the creases.
It’s like a greasy waxy type substance in the creases near their eyes.
The worse problem I have with Meishan’s ……. They are horny as hell! Gilts are screaming idiots during their heat cycles.
You’d think someone were torturing them.
Talk about loud….
One tries to out of the other in loudness.
As far as I know… no skin issues. I’ve been raising them for a couple years. (3)
Aren't these the pre Wild hogs
Nicee, now let them loose in the wild..😂😂
Any breeders in South Africa?
Let me know if you find any! I'm in Namibia, and there aren't any here. I love to get them on my plot
They almost look like little elephants
I want meishan pig
It's what we raise. We love them
Lets be clear they are rare in the usa not in the world specifically china still has planty
Researchers have quoted as the government in China controls ownership of purebred Meishan boars. Said for the average person it is illegal to own a purebred Meishan boar.
Research centers in China raise the pure ones, as it has been relayed to me.
I love this breed.
There are now close to 1000 Meishans’ registered by the AMBA.
More & more folks in the US are getting involved by raising registered stock.
I don't wanna eat nice animals. :(
Good meat? Let's breed and eat.
Der Honkers 🐷🐗🐖
they are not early maturing... that's why they're not popular
They reach sexual maturity far earlier than most breeds. I think you mean full weight which is true and discussed in the video.
Seems their meat is superior in flavor.
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Might wanna read the prophecy in Isaiah 66 that says pork eaters will be destroyed by fire during the end times.
Might want to read in acts where God ended the prohibition of pork.
@@tinknal6449 church lie
..might want to read the last verse in that chapter of Acts. You have been hoodwinked. Prophecy will not be stopped.
@@444truth There is no prophecy against pork. You might also want to read 1 Timothy 4.
@@444truth Hebrews 7, 18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.
19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
It’s so ugly. It might turn me into vegan.
They grow way slower than most meat pigs. Mine are super nervous . And bring 5$ at auction lol
You don't market sales pig at a sales barn, you market them for premium prices direct to the consumer.
Where are you located?
It's all pros no cons, is this a sales pitch? Is this true because it can't all be true, that's just not how animals work
Cons are grow out time which is longer which is discussed in the video
Well, they have significantly more piggies then they have teats. Very obvious downside there. Overly prolific is not a good thing.
They don't root, so if you're wanting a pig to clear land for you, this one ain't it - mentioned in the video. For me, that is a con.
@@swamp-yankee that is a good point we found this with the rare breed sheep and near always had to separate off triplets and sometimes twins if the mother was being a pest.
@@AgnesMariaL kinda sweet though for impact. I raise a heritage mix feeders, and their impact near harvest is difficult to manage. I’ve seen what my friend’s sows can do too.
Chinese people love those wrinkles on their animals
Huge generalization 🤨
@@kaylahbkitty9691not a problem, it is his opinion. Nothing sensitive about his opinion.
😂 it sounds a bit funny actually. But not too sure if Sha Pei originated from China. Chow Chow originated from China and it is kinda cute with its wrinkles. 🤣