@@jgold7730 Not a real quote. Kids these days don't know what quotation marks mean. His left pinky was hurting recently and affecting his ability to make control groups so he switched to a game mode without control grouping for a bit. His Pinky pain is gone but his DS addiction is not.
Every time I tune into another Direct Strike video, Grubby's ingame level has increased by like 8 levels. The dude is addicted. Someone get him some help.
Armor is much more efficient to buy over evasion until your hero has high armor (like 12 or so is the point where evasion starts to be better). So the talisman on your 3 armor TC is a pretty big mistake. Lowers your effective physical hp by like 200 compared to a ring of protection
They told you "don't you ever build glaive throwers" Don't wanna play meta you gonna throw the game The fire's in their eyes and their words are really clear So TC just TC
I feel like you can't lose if you draft grunt, shaman, priest, druid, and kodo. Doesn't matter if knight is or isn't as good as other tanks, doesn't matter if frost wurm is worse than chimaera. Shaman, priest, druid, and kodo are gonna be able to make any other set of units invincible.
2nd evasion on shadow extra value when BBV =] btw u were against wyrms , hero low lvl around 350hp , with evasion on while wyrms do like 100+ dmg per hit crazy :D
around the 2:30 mark you're deciding between a grunt and mine it looks like. Wouldnt it have been okay to go grunt immediately sell on wave for 75% and buy the mine as fast as possible? That way you get a stronger wave while still getting your mine a lil later than you would have but still faster then the 4th grunt. Winning that wave and getting the best of both worlds kind of thing.
To rein back the area where the units fight. You don't want to fight under their fortress but you still want to fight on their side so you get the gold bonus
Other person isn't wrong, but often it's employed by one participant attempting to stack with a forward positioned army coming directly after, such that the heroes can both be present at once when posing a threat under fortress.
I have questions for WC3 DS pros. How viable extreme strats are/have you tested them? Such as: - Air units only - Mass kodo - Tier 1 only - Fast triple hero - 4 mines ASAP - Tier 3 only So on (thanks everyone for the answers)
none of these strats are viable, I've been playing this map since March 2023 and I've tested all of them except mass kodo, but i think mass kodo will lose the moment someone goes air spam I think these thoughts are relevant for all game versions: If good Tier 1 units can spend quite a while spamming, but eventually have to tech cause you'll get countered at some point, so you need to get buffs and counters for enemy countering you. Air units only can be easily countered if an oppo is good he'll counter immediately and you'll lose, the only chace to win is if opponents dont have any dedicated anti air your team mates are pushing in really hard and you stack with their ground units to tank for you all the rifles/archers/hh/ and if they got fiends/raiders you loose automatically with only air units, its expensive, requires tech and gives time for people to think why not building, maybe scout you and counter you Fast triple hero only feeds XP to enemy hero early game and loose out a lot on shared xp, so it takes more time for the hero to be effective, at level one its just an expensive unit with a strong skill, for 2100 gold, which is the price of 3 heroes including tech, you can make an army that can easily overcome 3 heroes even if i ts mostly t1 and 1 hero. there is a rare chancee that you will luck out and get imba heroes, but all hero need xp, to be really strong if they dont have an army to support them they will die without earning much xp 4 mines ASAP can work against really low mmr players if you have a good roll and know how to play it Tier 3 only is costly and for the time you dont build anything while you tech up, the oppo can already be at your fort, and and if you rush t3, you obviously cant rush income, you probably loose mid income as well, and without income you can not build so many t3 units per wave to make an impact
Like Grubbys focus on his own mines often elongades the games on his channel which is good for content but not effective in-game. You always want to opt for mid control so your whole team profits and not only you. Most "pros" / high mmr player seldome go for third mine and late for second / with tower cuz tempo is much more important on the board.
My first answer got deleted somehow so here it goes again: Around 1750 MMR and 100+ games. None of these tactics might work unless T1 only, with hero though, if you have something like Grunts, Headhunters, Shamans Vs Hunts Sorcs or something. Extremes are not what you want though. It better to build a good base with T1 and accomplishments with T2 and strong lategame units like MGs and Wyrms T3. It obviously depends a lot on your draft and what the enemy has but it's always important to go for the best round, which experience helps with.
I don't think it will ever work considering that every units have a hard counter. The closest we have would probably be mass destroyers, but even that still have a lot of its counters
Watching some of the pro level games, there are situations where you want to stay in tier 1 for a long time, or rush tier 3 while your teammates try to cover you. But even those are not extreme to the point of only doing it. You still need the support of tier 2 units, and every single tier 1 unit are eventually obsolete
Heroes should stop and wait if they are in front their army and start walking again when another unit takes the lead. Probably bad idea. I dont even own a computer since 8 years lol
What if starting MMR number be set to 0 instead of any arbitrary number like lets say 1000? and of course floor number of MMR would be 0 as well. Also winning a game in such low MMR range would also give high amount of MMR point so anyone who are actually good at the game would climb the rank faster before eventually slowing down. That way newcomer that aren't good enough at the game doesn't have to lose their first couple of games.
So if you lose 3 games you are still at 0, creating a system that has a floor and but other people values depend on yours, but you can be 0mmr 0games, 0mmr 5games. Does that change how others MMR change? If the 5 game person's wins, does he get less? If so it's the exact same as now you just made it 0 for the UI back it's the same thing. Another part is it's not as interesting to see no number or a climb that starts you being punched back to 0 if you winlosewinlose or win sometimes between loses. It's really engaging, and while you don't need phone games like systems that rank you up with just time played there kind of needs to be sense of progress. Also how can system know if bnet ds gamer and me, 0 games that get 3 games in a row same team and we get carried, scale us up much faster since the floor is so low, like you said need to bump good players up. There Are bound to be false positives, but starting at 0 that rubber bands losses makes so you get guardian/gold levels in plat games.
Orb enables him to not go ahead alone into fort, instead he stays with the army and kills off the rest of enemy's air. Plus, he aggroes and tanks enemy air at the begging of the collision - it's good, because he is the tankiest. He is the tankiest in the meaning that it is better to take damage on him and heal it, because he takes less damage for the same amount of enemy's efforts. Like in any MMO-RPG with the "holy trinity" of tank-dps-healer
@@parodybrothers the fire orb is the cheapest. And it applies 90% healing reduction- pretty strong, considering attecked chimera/wyrm is getting healed most times
They don't stack at all. Grubby has been wrong about them stacking for a while and I'm not really sure why he hasn't bothered to verify it (it's trivial to make a custom map and test. Just throw 6 talismans of evasion on a DH with level 2 evasion and compare to one with just level 2 evasion and no items)
80% of DS players are grubby viewers, doesn't matter what he renames himself to, or if he blacks out the screen while queueing. The game will contain grublings no matter what
I put that Bounty out grubby, watch part of his stream i donated and he mocked my currency. I will dono extra of my "trash currency" to you per crushing defeat you send his nelf to the shadow realm.
I think you misunderstood what he meant by arbitrary. A 1600 or 3000 MMR is arbitrary. It is a meaningless number by itself. If you took everyone’s MMR and reduced it by 200, nothing would happen. It’s a nominal (arbitrary) value. It is only useful in making comparisons between players.
Heroes tank flying unit attacks (pierce, magic) better than all other armor types except for fortified. So outside of siege tanks, having a hero tank flying units is THE most efficient way to reduce their damage. Meanwhile, normal attack type does 100% damage to heroes. It's much less efficient for a hero to tank normal attacks
@@Trompok13 Lmao. It's confusing what you're asking, so yeah YOU need to fix it. Make yourself a better person and don't just stew in your ignorance. You'll get quite a bit further in life. Are you saying he is still playing DS? Implying you want melee content? Or are you saying he still is making mistakes despite 100 hours of DS?
@@thesustraveler see here is where you show how much of a retard you are... no one said anything about melee you just got triggered by a comment.. it was clear that he does mistakes after 100 hours of DS but you didn't like that and gone for "grammar" which has nothing wrong in the first place... the entire comment you made cuz your panties got twisted and nothing else. You just made your own scenarios in your brain and pissed yourself off.
Grubby: "I'm playing DS to help with my carpal tunnel".
Also Grubby: *Moves grunt back and forth from the same spot 10x*
is there a vid where he talks about the carpal tunnel issue?
@@jgold7730
Not a real quote. Kids these days don't know what quotation marks mean. His left pinky was hurting recently and affecting his ability to make control groups so he switched to a game mode without control grouping for a bit. His Pinky pain is gone but his DS addiction is not.
@@horsemumbler1 😆 it's a joke lighten up grandpa 👴
@@jgold7730 Prettt much what horse said
Every time I tune into another Direct Strike video, Grubby's ingame level has increased by like 8 levels. The dude is addicted. Someone get him some help.
I wish Dawn of War can be modded like this too. I want to play DS in Dawn of War 😢
he bought second kodo for 0 value. and he never got second druid for optimal placement, half his army never had roar.
8 levels and 8 mmr
Nahh bro he just have so many games that his editor can't keep up xddd
He has to want help first 😢
Armor is much more efficient to buy over evasion until your hero has high armor (like 12 or so is the point where evasion starts to be better).
So the talisman on your 3 armor TC is a pretty big mistake. Lowers your effective physical hp by like 200 compared to a ring of protection
Priest bros healing each others: peak of humanity 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
But they're not human...
Priests healing **themselves** when they have disease: 🤔
Priests healing **each other** when they have disease: 😊
True, human race is half elves wtf, just call it day elves
18:16 That's a lot of taurens - that's a lot of xp.
27:44 Looks like tea (for Grubby)
when raid boss Pit Lord build?
I am happy, when you are grubby. good to see this game keeps you interested :)
They told you "don't you ever build glaive throwers"
Don't wanna play meta you gonna throw the game
The fire's in their eyes and their words are really clear
So TC
just TC
Gg grubby I was yellow. I said not to post this but I'm glad you did, that TC was sick
Grubby did 45% of ALL the team damage (170k out of 375k). INSANE
Hi Grubby,
Would love to see you try other custom games. I have never been a custom player myself, but Direct Strike is fun (at least to watch).
Yo Grubby is Direct Strike available to play in battle net or do I have to join W3C?
unironically no cap on god for real
Morning grubby video and coffe nothing better 😊
Now we need to see a pure carry hero. 6-item full build level 10 :D
interesting game! i love it when grub expriments
I feel like you can't lose if you draft grunt, shaman, priest, druid, and kodo. Doesn't matter if knight is or isn't as good as other tanks, doesn't matter if frost wurm is worse than chimaera. Shaman, priest, druid, and kodo are gonna be able to make any other set of units invincible.
It would be sick if you could set presets for unit location. That way you could quickly swap to a new positioning easily.
Are there any strategies that uses selling the initial units to pivot to new ones?
2nd evasion on shadow extra value when BBV =]
btw u were against wyrms , hero low lvl around 350hp , with evasion on while wyrms do like 100+ dmg per hit crazy :D
Need to make a whole new game about this map, with you, wtii, and Chicoff (the one that made it I think) as the founder 😂
around the 2:30 mark you're deciding between a grunt and mine it looks like. Wouldnt it have been okay to go grunt immediately sell on wave for 75% and buy the mine as fast as possible? That way you get a stronger wave while still getting your mine a lil later than you would have but still faster then the 4th grunt. Winning that wave and getting the best of both worlds kind of thing.
I was about to say, sub 2 minute 2nd gold mine is unhinged lol
Before buff buy DMG. If there is no DMG there is nothing to buff, right?
Just checking in to see if the Direct Strike phase is over after 2 weeks or so. I see things are still dire. Will check back in again in ~2 weeks.
Do evade talismans stack!??
id like a tauren race for a new update , just cause i love thema so much
why is putting the units further back after destroying the enemy tower a good thing?
To rein back the area where the units fight. You don't want to fight under their fortress but you still want to fight on their side so you get the gold bonus
Other person isn't wrong, but often it's employed by one participant attempting to stack with a forward positioned army coming directly after, such that the heroes can both be present at once when posing a threat under fortress.
@@friskydrinklunkybank1108 ty ty
I have questions for WC3 DS pros. How viable extreme strats are/have you tested them? Such as:
- Air units only
- Mass kodo
- Tier 1 only
- Fast triple hero
- 4 mines ASAP
- Tier 3 only
So on
(thanks everyone for the answers)
none of these strats are viable, I've been playing this map since March 2023 and I've tested all of them except mass kodo, but i think mass kodo will lose the moment someone goes air spam I think these thoughts are relevant for all game versions:
If good Tier 1 units can spend quite a while spamming, but eventually have to tech cause you'll get countered at some point, so you need to get buffs and counters for enemy countering you.
Air units only can be easily countered if an oppo is good he'll counter immediately and you'll lose, the only chace to win is if opponents dont have any dedicated anti air your team mates are pushing in really hard and you stack with their ground units to tank for you all the rifles/archers/hh/ and if they got fiends/raiders you loose automatically with only air units, its expensive, requires tech and gives time for people to think why not building, maybe scout you and counter you
Fast triple hero only feeds XP to enemy hero early game and loose out a lot on shared xp, so it takes more time for the hero to be effective, at level one its just an expensive unit with a strong skill, for 2100 gold, which is the price of 3 heroes including tech, you can make an army that can easily overcome 3 heroes even if i ts mostly t1 and 1 hero. there is a rare chancee that you will luck out and get imba heroes, but all hero need xp, to be really strong if they dont have an army to support them they will die without earning much xp
4 mines ASAP can work against really low mmr players if you have a good roll and know how to play it
Tier 3 only is costly and for the time you dont build anything while you tech up, the oppo can already be at your fort, and and if you rush t3, you obviously cant rush income, you probably loose mid income as well, and without income you can not build so many t3 units per wave to make an impact
Like Grubbys focus on his own mines often elongades the games on his channel which is good for content but not effective in-game. You always want to opt for mid control so your whole team profits and not only you. Most "pros" / high mmr player seldome go for third mine and late for second / with tower cuz tempo is much more important on the board.
My first answer got deleted somehow so here it goes again:
Around 1750 MMR and 100+ games.
None of these tactics might work unless T1 only, with hero though, if you have something like Grunts, Headhunters, Shamans Vs Hunts Sorcs or something.
Extremes are not what you want though. It better to build a good base with T1 and accomplishments with T2 and strong lategame units like MGs and Wyrms T3. It obviously depends a lot on your draft and what the enemy has but it's always important to go for the best round, which experience helps with.
I don't think it will ever work considering that every units have a hard counter. The closest we have would probably be mass destroyers, but even that still have a lot of its counters
Watching some of the pro level games, there are situations where you want to stay in tier 1 for a long time, or rush tier 3 while your teammates try to cover you. But even those are not extreme to the point of only doing it. You still need the support of tier 2 units, and every single tier 1 unit are eventually obsolete
Would someone happen to know how to scan opponents' base?
And also what snd kodo for?
Sems Grubby just unlocked the new double evasion meta, brb trying it now
Update: I lost
Knights here don't have the passive for bonus damage to normal armor?
They do automatically (sundering blades is pre-researched)
Can you play this mode in reforged graphics?
He cant
Yes but it's frowned upon
Grubby, please play The Bazaar. this is a SICK GAME.
That's the blackiest TC I've ever seen
Heroes should stop and wait if they are in front their army and start walking again when another unit takes the lead. Probably bad idea. I dont even own a computer since 8 years lol
Since, W3 was patched, my level in DS resets to level 1 after every single match, does someone know how to fix that?
i cant figure it out myself.
I'm dubbing this the Thanos build
I am 8 video away in reaching the latest DS video i am always sleepy when watching hahaha but i like watching this
The best drawft I ever see
What if starting MMR number be set to 0 instead of any arbitrary number like lets say 1000? and of course floor number of MMR would be 0 as well.
Also winning a game in such low MMR range would also give high amount of MMR point so anyone who are actually good at the game would climb the rank faster before eventually slowing down.
That way newcomer that aren't good enough at the game doesn't have to lose their first couple of games.
So if you lose 3 games you are still at 0, creating a system that has a floor and but other people values depend on yours, but you can be 0mmr 0games, 0mmr 5games. Does that change how others MMR change? If the 5 game person's wins, does he get less? If so it's the exact same as now you just made it 0 for the UI back it's the same thing.
Another part is it's not as interesting to see no number or a climb that starts you being punched back to 0 if you winlosewinlose or win sometimes between loses. It's really engaging, and while you don't need phone games like systems that rank you up with just time played there kind of needs to be sense of progress. Also how can system know if bnet ds gamer and me, 0 games that get 3 games in a row same team and we get carried, scale us up much faster since the floor is so low, like you said need to bump good players up. There Are bound to be false positives, but starting at 0 that rubber bands losses makes so you get guardian/gold levels in plat games.
It's your fault that I just played my first direct strike game 😂 somehow I even won. Hopefully I won't get as addicted as you 😂🙊
GOD COMBO BRO!!!!
So why buying orb of fire on tank? I don't get it
Orb enables him to not go ahead alone into fort, instead he stays with the army and kills off the rest of enemy's air. Plus, he aggroes and tanks enemy air at the begging of the collision - it's good, because he is the tankiest. He is the tankiest in the meaning that it is better to take damage on him and heal it, because he takes less damage for the same amount of enemy's efforts. Like in any MMO-RPG with the "holy trinity" of tank-dps-healer
@ Got it, but why orb of fire? Why not corruption? Is there a specific reason to buy fire orb for tank heroes?
@@parodybrothers the fire orb is the cheapest. And it applies 90% healing reduction- pretty strong, considering attecked chimera/wyrm is getting healed most times
So 2 talismans do stack? :o
They don't stack at all. Grubby has been wrong about them stacking for a while and I'm not really sure why he hasn't bothered to verify it (it's trivial to make a custom map and test. Just throw 6 talismans of evasion on a DH with level 2 evasion and compare to one with just level 2 evasion and no items)
we will save it for a second hero
people reveal their banshees too early
2nd mine first wave🥴
Cant he change his profile name? seem everytime he plays someone is stream sniping him and answers in game when he talks on stream
80% of DS players are grubby viewers, doesn't matter what he renames himself to, or if he blacks out the screen while queueing. The game will contain grublings no matter what
I put that Bounty out grubby, watch part of his stream i donated and he mocked my currency. I will dono extra of my "trash currency" to you per crushing defeat you send his nelf to the shadow realm.
Are you the same person that donated to Harstem with the same line? Get some help.
I think you misunderstood what he meant by arbitrary. A 1600 or 3000 MMR is arbitrary. It is a meaningless number by itself. If you took everyone’s MMR and reduced it by 200, nothing would happen. It’s a nominal (arbitrary) value. It is only useful in making comparisons between players.
I think you misunderstood what grubby is saying
You go for orb too early imo, after 6 sure, pre 6 iffy
Heroes tank flying unit attacks (pierce, magic) better than all other armor types except for fortified. So outside of siege tanks, having a hero tank flying units is THE most efficient way to reduce their damage.
Meanwhile, normal attack type does 100% damage to heroes. It's much less efficient for a hero to tank normal attacks
No matter how many videos I watch I just do not understand this game mode. So you don't control any units directly in combat? Not even heroes?
It's not that complicated. AI is controlling the spells. But you can turn them on and off and thus control the timing somewhat
smoothest brain
Bewbz
Grubby please for the love of god upload a video about not Direct Strike
First
Looks fun but the games is 30$ @@
You mean wc3 is too expensive?
I know indie games that costs 30$ 😅
best 30$ you'll spend on a game bro, the possibilities are endless with wc3, both ladder and customs, especially customs
You can wait black friday, its in november
It should be on sale soon. Seems to go on sale every 3-4 months and last was in august
after all his videos he still is plays like this?
You gotta fix the grammar of your comment
@@thesustraveler There is nothing to fix... if YOU understood it is more then enough.
@@Trompok13 Lmao. It's confusing what you're asking, so yeah YOU need to fix it. Make yourself a better person and don't just stew in your ignorance. You'll get quite a bit further in life.
Are you saying he is still playing DS? Implying you want melee content?
Or are you saying he still is making mistakes despite 100 hours of DS?
@@thesustraveler see here is where you show how much of a retard you are... no one said anything about melee you just got triggered by a comment.. it was clear that he does mistakes after 100 hours of DS but you didn't like that and gone for "grammar" which has nothing wrong in the first place... the entire comment you made cuz your panties got twisted and nothing else. You just made your own scenarios in your brain and pissed yourself off.