Happy is like the ultimate boss level chess AI except for WC3. We need to preserve his brain for when we need to fight the terminator AIs in the future.
In Brazilian Jiu Jitsu they say that if you spar with weaker ones, you learn attack , and if you spar with stronger ones, you learn to defend . Maybe it's similar in W3 and Mr. Grubby lacked a bit of defense :D
It was so cool to watch you play against Happy. You dont appreciate his dominance in the game until you feel the hopelessness of fighting into his skill. Makes watching those casted games where Happy gets pushed and tested that much more special.
4:41 "Sadly sometimes I'm one of those students in school that when I hear my classmates didn't do anything either to prepare, I think maybe also I don't need to prepare. Like 'Oh we both gonna fail. Okay cool.'" - That's part of being social.
those moves by Happy. There was something non-human to them. I guess Grubby is right, that he could dominate every race, he just likes undead for a reason
3:25 These surrounds are so clean it's actually crazy to watch. Happy makes it look effortless. Then blocking the wolves with skeletons to save a 1 hp ghoul. Just madness.
This korean is solid and very resilient to the constant back and forth harrass. but even with 2 bases that was way too much money spent on tps... Also your micro was waaaay superior to be honest. GGWP
@@Andresbej_ I didn't say it was. But it's also not easy to micro vs rifles. The focus is very strong and you have to be very reactive. Both of them were solid, But I felt grubby was above in this particular game
Sok's micro is the worst among Koreans. It's probably worst among pros. His APM is like 150~ and doesn't even spike. He can't reliably manage a huge army that's micro intensive, that's why he cheeses with the old HU metas like casters and breakers or mass gryphons where all he needs to do is bolt + focus fire. Sok is the most overrated pro among the top ranked players, and it's evident because now as meta game changes his ranking is tanking straight down. But still, a good game by Grubby as he shows that even someone like him who isn't that competitive anymore can still easily dominate a game when the game is about micro.
@@zxbc1 Really? That's surprising since most pros are in the 300-400 range. My APM is also around 150 and it feels enough. I don't need to spam 100 rally points while building the base.
It's fun to see the psychology of facing players like Happy. I think Grubby went into this game expecting to get destroyed and kind of watched it happen lol
It's much more subtle than the difference between a mediocre player and a good one, I'd recommend focusing on the tiny advantages the better player generates in each interaction or decision during a top level matchup
You need to play more times versus Happy 💪🏻 If he goes full ham every game, you will get better by playing versus him more often. Like Moon made you play better. Don't worry about losing. Against Happy is a matter of surviving for long as possible, try to score as many details as possible, every little advantage matters. With >3000MMR he is playing this game close to perfection, with almost zero mistakes conceded. It's insane honestly... your reaction whenever Happy appears on the loading screen is funny 😂 you take a couple of DEEP BREATHS.
So many likes on this comment, I'll just share my opinion here, I don't speak on Grubby's behalf ofcourse but I don't think Grubby is interested in becoming better in that sense. Improving to become the best in the world only makes sense if you're competing in tournaments. Grubby has already achieved that and I feel that he has fulfilled that part for himself. It doesn't seem to me that he has the internal drive to go through that intense process again. And remember, it's not just about playing against better players and automatically getting better. You can't just casually play ladder games against Happy while streaming and expect to significantly improve. Ofcourse Grubby is capable of improving also in that way, and he proved that a few years ago, but real improvement requires focused, dedicated practice, something much more intense than just playing for fun or content creation. I feel that Grubby doesnt want to go down that path again he has a different life now its been so many years.
@@nikoskarapavlos Yes, your perspective makes sense. The first match was wild. The moves behind that double surround looked inhuman. Just flawless micro. Happy moved the low hp ghoul to the right which caused the FS and the Grunts to move further into Happy's units. After finishing the low hp grunt he immediatly surrounded the FS with skeletons and ghouls while the DK just stood in his place before performing any additional action. It felt telegraphed. The cost of getting 1 ghoul from Happy cost Grubby his TP scroll and a Grunt - Every detail is a bargain against Happy. The final straw was that lone skeleton appearing while Grubby was creeping the gold mine. As soon as he moved the FS away, the DK with level 2 deathcoil was already there - he predicted every move. Uncanny game sense. Getting good enough to even challenge Happy seems a rabbit hole that Grubby is probably not interested. But Grubby said he plays better if he consistently faces better players. Maybe practicing against Happy can help him improve, even without dedicated practice to be honest. Also, while Grubby is no longer involved in the pro scene, you can verify that he has played Happy before and he did well against him. I bet if Grubby reviews this match he will find alot of mistakes that Happy exploited. I think Grubby got anxious when he saw Happy on the loading screen and performed worse as a result.
Grubby makes more money being himself and playing the twitch meta games. He gets way more money grinding streaming than playing tryhard for wc3 tournaments. they payouts for wc3 aren't enough. plus Happy is too dominant. even Lyn has been having very hard time with Happy and Lyn, even Grubby would say, is better than Grubby. Grubby would agree Lyn is a better orc in every matchup. He is the king of orcs.
I think people that watch grubby believe he can be one of the best though. I know he doesn't want to take things serious anymore but it would be cool to see him really try instead of immediately giving up when he sees happy on the screen.
Grubby says he has no ego--him admitting that Sok held himself back with a non-meta build is exactly what he means by that--a more immature player would be talking about how they trashed him.
but an even more egotistical one will say that he won only because of a meta, grubby has the ego the size of texas, but why wouldn't he, he's one of the best in the world.
@@tylerbacoka4248 grubby's statement is that Sok is a better player if they both play the meta. that's not egotistical statement lol. I honestly don't think you even know what it means--have you seen a player with the ego the size of Texas? Tyler 1 for example, very different vibe and attitude to the stream.
@@BrendanWood-i2d I used to beat grubby in 2s constantly (considering he's a 1on1 player), I actually know him as a player not a you tuber, so yeah....lol and oddly tyler 1 is probably one of the more modest gamers of today. Pretending to be modest isn't modesty at least Tyler1 is straight up.
5:40 that's also my life's motto but if you hit the ceiling it's really hard to live-by that anymore. Sometimes, after a exhausting work day you just crave to have fun and be content. It's like taking a break from a sprint marathon and jog for a view
anywhere i can upload content or give idea for an video ? have a pretty fun game to watch from some newb who didnt play for years but watches grubby alot, think its fun to watch, much up and downs and unusual playstyle
Hey Grubby, AoM Retols is now trending. Would you have a colab with the top players or youtubers? I can recommend BoitTV. I would love to see you getting coached, playing, or having some sort of themed gameplay
I thought you were doing the apolloy Verbal tic "Sock!" "This is a sock!" And then you started talking about how good Sok was in wc3 and I realized i had apollo brain rot
hey grubb would you ever have some videos on ur channel spectating/casting pro wc3 matches? Idk if theres a problem with whos allowed to show the pro games
Hi! In regards to damage bonus from armor and attack types (piercing, magic, heavy armor, and so on), how high is the % of bonus damage it deals when you have the attack type in your favour and how much less damage in % do you make the other way around? Does anyone know the number?
Grubby, it's a great idea to stop playing against weak opponents. I believe you're capable of beating every WC3 player in the world after some high-level training. Anyway, each game against the best players is much better, even if you lose. Thanks for the awesome video!
Grubby is being modest. If he was 5 years younger, still pro and had access to all the materials Happy has had he could be on that level too. One of the few with that elite potential
15:55 - I would just like to be so boring as to point out the not so glamourous lumbermill snipe. It's not flashy, it's not super obvious, but it's a very annoying thing to do against a player that hasn't invested into a shredder. And if they do invest into a shredder as a response, then you can continue being a Not Very Nice Person and snipe the shredder, too. How neat! wait, did chat ask how deep the Melee rabbit hole goes? well there you go
If that's true, why not just keep playing against Happy? Would make for great content as well and you'd become one of the best players in the world again :D And we would LOVE watching it.
O you are gonna play predecessor, that game is very fun but it is the only game really besides VR to make me so nauseous because of the extremely fast paced 3rd person camera movement.
grubby spends 5000 of his apm on wasted moves, but no one presses buttons faster (still impressive micro).. lol I owned your 2on2 team with, Blood Mage pally constantly or have you forgotten the mercs so quickly. Supa/Creep vs Grubby/and his random punching bag allies.
Why is he repeating a flag click when he wants a unit to go somewhere after beeing created? Isn't better to use just one click? ( I'm new, please, help) 🙈
![This [LEGENDARY] game will have you on the EDGE OF YOUR SEAT! - WC3](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Xe7BXJr-gwM/mqdefault.jpg)
0:40 "be happy too"... the peon said it. 😂
Deep!
Epic
Haha I was about to say it. Turncoat Peons.
Grubby youtube dont allow this type of content
Too violent
Very graphic. Grubby had things happen to him that he didn't want.
HAHAHA
What are you doing…step pro?
@@vincentlin9926 Haha, Happy went totally onii-chan on poor Grubby.
Sok and and Happy playing at the same time, probably practicing against each other. Grubby: Hey, I am here too.
Happy is like the ultimate boss level chess AI except for WC3. We need to preserve his brain for when we need to fight the terminator AIs in the future.
You can said this for top players like Sky, Moon, Grubby, Thooo, Infi, Lyn at their prime time. I agree Happy is a true king as well :D
In Brazilian Jiu Jitsu they say that if you spar with weaker ones, you learn attack , and if you spar with stronger ones, you learn to defend . Maybe it's similar in W3 and Mr. Grubby lacked a bit of defense :D
It was so cool to watch you play against Happy. You dont appreciate his dominance in the game until you feel the hopelessness of fighting into his skill. Makes watching those casted games where Happy gets pushed and tested that much more special.
You said in another video that playing Happy is like being constantly watched. It was something else to feel it from your perspective.
21:33 nice save of the sniper by banishing kodo
I was about to comment this! Wow impressive!
GOSU
21:31
4:41 "Sadly sometimes I'm one of those students in school that when I hear my classmates didn't do anything either to prepare, I think maybe also I don't need to prepare. Like 'Oh we both gonna fail. Okay cool.'" - That's part of being social.
those moves by Happy. There was something non-human to them. I guess Grubby is right, that he could dominate every race, he just likes undead for a reason
you are still so great at the game Grubby. Mad Respect.
Love to see your commentary in games vs Happy, even though the games are very hard
Very fun to hear your thoughts on the stuff happy does
Happy is not human, he is AI generated cyborg without any flaws 😂
When you went creeping with low HP, I expected that scout skeleton and deadly coil from down town. Happy has no mercy.
3:25 These surrounds are so clean it's actually crazy to watch. Happy makes it look effortless.
Then blocking the wolves with skeletons to save a 1 hp ghoul. Just madness.
Happy is a perfectionist. Finer details like the ones you mentioned are what makes him the best player in the world - by far.
11:03 Back2warcraft with a big party raid!!!
Let's gooo!!!
Why does grubby look like a ghoul on the thumbnail 😭😭💀💀
I think you should check your eyes or a mirror
Hahah did not notice
@@MikeDeriderhe’s talking about the pose
Someone needs to photoshop a ghoul tongue in his mouth.
Haha so true
Grubby admitting that Happy's surrounds are smooth and getting surrounded again right after that LMAO 3:27
02:12 -- lol, critters helping Grubby by hindering Happy's acolyte !! :D
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i mean being rank 1 and 2 and 3 is the biggest disrespect to the wc3 pros XD
Peons are right tho; 'Be Happy to!'
This korean is solid and very resilient to the constant back and forth harrass. but even with 2 bases that was way too much money spent on tps... Also your micro was waaaay superior to be honest. GGWP
Its not that easy to micro rifles
@@Andresbej_ I didn't say it was. But it's also not easy to micro vs rifles. The focus is very strong and you have to be very reactive. Both of them were solid, But I felt grubby was above in this particular game
Sok's micro is the worst among Koreans. It's probably worst among pros. His APM is like 150~ and doesn't even spike. He can't reliably manage a huge army that's micro intensive, that's why he cheeses with the old HU metas like casters and breakers or mass gryphons where all he needs to do is bolt + focus fire. Sok is the most overrated pro among the top ranked players, and it's evident because now as meta game changes his ranking is tanking straight down. But still, a good game by Grubby as he shows that even someone like him who isn't that competitive anymore can still easily dominate a game when the game is about micro.
@@Andresbej_ im not very good at warcraft 3. but when i play human i play pala rifle becuase it's the easiest army to micro
@@zxbc1 Really? That's surprising since most pros are in the 300-400 range. My APM is also around 150 and it feels enough. I don't need to spam 100 rally points while building the base.
It's fun to see the psychology of facing players like Happy. I think Grubby went into this game expecting to get destroyed and kind of watched it happen lol
As a bronze league hero, it's difficult to comprehend the difference in skill between a pro (grubby) and Happy
It's much more subtle than the difference between a mediocre player and a good one, I'd recommend focusing on the tiny advantages the better player generates in each interaction or decision during a top level matchup
Lmao i just saw the replay on W3Champions - i wondered how you reacted to the Coil.
Happy is really good and anticipated every move you did.
That face on the thumbnail, and you were best player in the world six times if i am not mistaken
You need to play more times versus Happy 💪🏻 If he goes full ham every game, you will get better by playing versus him more often. Like Moon made you play better. Don't worry about losing. Against Happy is a matter of surviving for long as possible, try to score as many details as possible, every little advantage matters. With >3000MMR he is playing this game close to perfection, with almost zero mistakes conceded. It's insane honestly... your reaction whenever Happy appears on the loading screen is funny 😂 you take a couple of DEEP BREATHS.
So many likes on this comment, I'll just share my opinion here, I don't speak on Grubby's behalf ofcourse but I don't think Grubby is interested in becoming better in that sense. Improving to become the best in the world only makes sense if you're competing in tournaments. Grubby has already achieved that and I feel that he has fulfilled that part for himself. It doesn't seem to me that he has the internal drive to go through that intense process again. And remember, it's not just about playing against better players and automatically getting better. You can't just casually play ladder games against Happy while streaming and expect to significantly improve. Ofcourse Grubby is capable of improving also in that way, and he proved that a few years ago, but real improvement requires focused, dedicated practice, something much more intense than just playing for fun or content creation. I feel that Grubby doesnt want to go down that path again he has a different life now its been so many years.
@@nikoskarapavlos Yes, your perspective makes sense. The first match was wild. The moves behind that double surround looked inhuman. Just flawless micro. Happy moved the low hp ghoul to the right which caused the FS and the Grunts to move further into Happy's units. After finishing the low hp grunt he immediatly surrounded the FS with skeletons and ghouls while the DK just stood in his place before performing any additional action. It felt telegraphed. The cost of getting 1 ghoul from Happy cost Grubby his TP scroll and a Grunt - Every detail is a bargain against Happy.
The final straw was that lone skeleton appearing while Grubby was creeping the gold mine. As soon as he moved the FS away, the DK with level 2 deathcoil was already there - he predicted every move. Uncanny game sense.
Getting good enough to even challenge Happy seems a rabbit hole that Grubby is probably not interested. But Grubby said he plays better if he consistently faces better players. Maybe practicing against Happy can help him improve, even without dedicated practice to be honest.
Also, while Grubby is no longer involved in the pro scene, you can verify that he has played Happy before and he did well against him. I bet if Grubby reviews this match he will find alot of mistakes that Happy exploited. I think Grubby got anxious when he saw Happy on the loading screen and performed worse as a result.
Grubby makes more money being himself and playing the twitch meta games. He gets way more money grinding streaming than playing tryhard for wc3 tournaments. they payouts for wc3 aren't enough. plus Happy is too dominant. even Lyn has been having very hard time with Happy and Lyn, even Grubby would say, is better than Grubby. Grubby would agree Lyn is a better orc in every matchup. He is the king of orcs.
@@danielneves6855. Iam not blind. I watched replay. Thanks for blind users podcast.
I think people that watch grubby believe he can be one of the best though. I know he doesn't want to take things serious anymore but it would be cool to see him really try instead of immediately giving up when he sees happy on the screen.
Grubby says he has no ego--him admitting that Sok held himself back with a non-meta build is exactly what he means by that--a more immature player would be talking about how they trashed him.
but an even more egotistical one will say that he won only because of a meta, grubby has the ego the size of texas, but why wouldn't he, he's one of the best in the world.
@@tylerbacoka4248 grubby's statement is that Sok is a better player if they both play the meta. that's not egotistical statement lol. I honestly don't think you even know what it means--have you seen a player with the ego the size of Texas? Tyler 1 for example, very different vibe and attitude to the stream.
@@BrendanWood-i2d I used to beat grubby in 2s constantly (considering he's a 1on1 player), I actually know him as a player not a you tuber, so yeah....lol and oddly tyler 1 is probably one of the more modest gamers of today. Pretending to be modest isn't modesty at least Tyler1 is straight up.
@@tylerbacoka4248I don’t understand how you could hve this so incredibly backwards
Is this how the common player feels when they are against grubby's 30th smurf.
Many years have passed from early 2000th.... Im glad you still keeping this Warcraft. GL HF
4:24 - 4:28 real wisdom for self-improvement right there
Congrats on playing against (arguably) the best player in WC3, Happy. Good games, Grubby!
That was one of the fastest APM I've seen in awhile.
Happy really is the best wc3 player. Props to grubby for winning against moon tho
when i see happy micro, i get nightmares for days
After getting surrounded like that everytime I'd say "GG" and look for another match
4k.Grubby the king of the kings ! Glad to see ur back 👍
5:40 that's also my life's motto but if you hit the ceiling it's really hard to live-by that anymore. Sometimes, after a exhausting work day you just crave to have fun and be content. It's like taking a break from a sprint marathon and jog for a view
'Use the cloack to avoid mana syphon.' Gets syphoned 10 sek afterwards.😊
Raider playstyle looks so savage, love it
4:43 that's so relatable it's scary 😭
A 3am gift just for me
It's a good thing you can only get destroyed by Happy once per day if you're playing ladder.
That's why Happy has 3 accounts, all in top-3 MMR
I was like, man better go back to base and buy that healing salve or he will just find you and coil you, and he did
Grubby however teaches us that you do not have an early voodo lounge going for farseer: suppose shop was not up after he tped back home..
The second game is exactly what happens when i try Pala Rifle against orc.
“Never sell cloak vs pally rifle,” proceeds to sell cloak:P That ring around the Rosie, raider harras was so entertaining.
He sold it on day break, perfectly done.
@@zxbc1 cloak works day and night since 2019-05-28.
Rekt xD
@@zinithin-8208 Hm, didn't realize it was in the reforged patch. That makes the item actually great, didn't know that!
Great and entertaining game vs SoK, well played!
Your respect for your opponents is admirable.
fun game, super back and forth, riveting to watch. Game 2 was also good
3:54 Grubby explaining the nature of his competitive mindset.
Great game. A game orc vs good oppos is by far the best content
coffee time. way better than the new rings of power. sadge
Beating SoK was rad :D
And yea, Happy is good, seeing that thrashing remind one of just how good ^.^
anywhere i can upload content or give idea for an video ? have a pretty fun game to watch from some newb who didnt play for years but watches grubby alot, think its fun to watch, much up and downs and unusual playstyle
Hey Grubby, AoM Retols is now trending. Would you have a colab with the top players or youtubers? I can recommend BoitTV. I would love to see you getting coached, playing, or having some sort of themed gameplay
Big respect man, so fkin clean against top lvl player of the world!
I thought you were doing the apolloy Verbal tic "Sock!" "This is a sock!" And then you started talking about how good Sok was in wc3 and I realized i had apollo brain rot
hey grubb would you ever have some videos on ur channel spectating/casting pro wc3 matches? Idk if theres a problem with whos allowed to show the pro games
Grubby, I would love to see some custom maps on the channel
Hi! In regards to damage bonus from armor and attack types (piercing, magic, heavy armor, and so on), how high is the % of bonus damage it deals when you have the attack type in your favour and how much less damage in % do you make the other way around? Does anyone know the number?
Wow, Grubby against top players! We expect more games like that.
Grubby, it's a great idea to stop playing against weak opponents. I believe you're capable of beating every WC3 player in the world after some high-level training. Anyway, each game against the best players is much better, even if you lose. Thanks for the awesome video!
that thumbnail is a thing of nightmares
Grubby is being modest. If he was 5 years younger, still pro and had access to all the materials Happy has had he could be on that level too. One of the few with that elite potential
Also the amount of hardwork. One thing that sets Happy apart is his exceptional discipline and constant grind.
no he would not and he is being honest. The koreans at this point are at a high level too but they stand no chance.
15:55 - I would just like to be so boring as to point out the not so glamourous lumbermill snipe.
It's not flashy, it's not super obvious, but it's a very annoying thing to do against a player that hasn't invested into a shredder.
And if they do invest into a shredder as a response, then you can continue being a Not Very Nice Person and snipe the shredder, too. How neat!
wait, did chat ask how deep the Melee rabbit hole goes? well there you go
More games with Happy, please!
Incredible second game
Grubby lost as soon as he seen happy he was not prepared for a sweaty match 😂
A lion, when hunting a rabbit, uses all its strength
i played sometimes barrack first for mass grunts at start
If that's true, why not just keep playing against Happy? Would make for great content as well and you'd become one of the best players in the world again :D And we would LOVE watching it.
He stops playing competitively now
Hermano, controla la ansiedad, no dejas de clickear ni un segundo...
Grubby got twice the amount of xp as the human player, and probably lost like less than 10 units the whole game
O you are gonna play predecessor, that game is very fun but it is the only game really besides VR to make me so nauseous because of the extremely fast paced 3rd person camera movement.
Why do I always feel like Grubby leaves the game too early when he starts losing to a top player? Keep going, Grubby!
he already lost, waste of time to drag on at that point
@@AB-su7jt koreans never leave and they are some of the best in the world. Quit=only lose.
it's rare that sok plays with that army and those heroes
Shop near human expo would of been so clutch.
Grubby vs Happy is El clasico.
Happy vs 120...
Of course Grubby would win against Sok this game. It's the Samuro Blademaster
Well, what do you want from him? They guy is LITERALLY "DK" - Dmitry Kostin!)))
I think I heared the peon say "beat happy too" this time 😎
lmao happy is doing the #1 challenge just on wc3champs xd
e have to admit, the rush was very intense, but Forti is very good, with only 2 heroes and a rifleman...
nasty micro 12:58
strange Grubby gave up on winning vs Happy before the game started.
grubby spends 5000 of his apm on wasted moves, but no one presses buttons faster (still impressive micro).. lol I owned your 2on2 team with, Blood Mage pally constantly or have you forgotten the mercs so quickly. Supa/Creep vs Grubby/and his random punching bag allies.
Tangentially related to the video: I saw Back2Warcraft cast a pretty insane bo7 between Lawliet and Leon the other day
Second game was intense.
This content is not following the yt guidelines grubby xD
"Wow so smooth" me unboxing a new iPhone
Nice to have Orc Tryhard back ❤
Second game: Why no Ensnare to stop Siphon Mana?
HaiL! Legendary Orc King Grubby! My GF said she loves you because I love you too!
Next time you should just tower Happy!
Ahtung! 18+ content in 00:00-5:10. Take away your kids from screen😂
"I know four top players and you're three of them"
Why is he repeating a flag click when he wants a unit to go somewhere after beeing created?
Isn't better to use just one click?
( I'm new, please, help) 🙈
If SoK did a tier 2 all in push with pala rifle I think he would have won. This is more standard against orc as well.
Na he tried to push but his timing was all off when his early game got wrecked.
Range armies just can't penetrate a melee orc army. Why won't he build some footmens
Its practically impossible to win happy on the lan tournaments . He is a ping dependent player
😆No "glhf"?? tough crowd...