So, if I understand correctly, the principle seems to be just like a step-in power jab in boxing, but starting and ending at more difficult positions, which makes it harder to get instinctively, so the emphasis on the principle is more pronounced. Very nice explanation.
Your channel is really good. Please do a whole tutorial of Baji Quan fighting style, like everything. How to punch, how to kick, how to block. I really wanna learn more about this martial art.
@@yamiyomizuki Yes, they do. Maybe not in theory, but definitely in practice. Much of the Mengcun lineage's content was formulated and added in the last 3 or 4 generations, which is long after the split between the lineages occurred. So naturally there will be differences.
Thank you Master! This message is invaluable. If we learn the form and concepts of our art, but not it's little details(intricacies) then we still have a very low level of kung fu. Gratitude!!!🙏
You may only call someone shifu after you have had a baishi ceremony under him. Until then a teacher is just a teacher (laoshi). Laoshi and shifu are not titles, but terms of adressing someone, which in Chinese culture always has to do with the relationship between two people. Not only in Baji, this is Chinese confucian etiquette, found in all life situations.
It says in video if your knee or head hurts you are doing it incorrectly and need to stop doing it that way immediately. Some of the demonstrations in the video he is showing ways that you should NOT do.
Well if they hurt, try relatively soft ones as practice so they don't rock your brain every time you do it. Then dial it up. I'm no expert on martial arts but that's just how practice in any sport, art, or technique goes.
Nanchang Bajiquan I don't agree, I don't know if you ever watched the Taiwan (wutan) version but they ways get disconnected from the ground... My teacher from hebei always told me to slide my toes over the ground to stay connected. It's impossible to use the hips proper if there was no connection :)
The only thing I can say is that if you do the mistakes Tang Laoshi points out in the video, you're guaranteed to hurt your knees in the long run. Not talking about anyone else's practice, they have to know on their own.
@@5324TuiG I practice the Wutan version. To be clear, no , we are not very far from the ground. I know what you meant, where in some of our videos, you may see the students stomp with every step they make. Another thing to clarify , in Wutan , we train in a lower stance than other styles. This is all just in training , not in practical usage. The reason why the wutan version is very different from other styles is because of the grandmaster Liu Yun Qiao. He was the last disciple of the grandmaster Li Shuwen. When he first became grandmaster Li's disciple, grandmaster Li is already at an old age , he changed a lot due to his old age. And grandmaster Liu had also learned many other styles of martial arts like Baguazhang and taichi, to improve his baji.
actually there's almost no stomping if you do it correctly. it's more about the twist and snap rather than the stomp. imagine yourself as a whip, and your fist is the end of the whip. the stomp is just the byproduct of the snap. realistically, if you snap too fast before you hit your opponent (the stomp is before or right at the moment of your fist impacting the target) most of the force created by the body twist is practically gone, absorbed by your stomp to the ground. so ideally you want to hit your target just right before your foot touches the ground, just like a jab punch. and this takes a loooooot of practice.
Correct, however in Bajiquan we practice with stomping first in the beginners' stage to get the mechanics right. In the advanced training, there is no stomping anymore.
@@Livingtree32 ah i get it! It's to get the feel of the motion and timing! Just like when a boxing coach used worn out mitts for newbie to punch rather than normal mitts, so that they could get the feel of the impact and its locations.
I used to use the stomping technique alot it worked great as a spacing tool more than anything followed by a slip into a shoulder or backfist personally don't like the elbows A bit easier to me to get the shoulder or backfist off,off of a slipped punch this technique is insane if somebody has a huge reach advantage on you that's in my opinion the most practical application of bajiquan other wise other martial arts are better at what they do baji the stomping technique is great at getting inside tbh after that it's probably just more effective to go into a grapple since your already kinda turned sideways already use your leverage you have for an armbar or a headlock
Also i just realized this kinda similar to how people do high jumps in basket ball i guess if you can do that you might get the gist its a little different
i wish i could learn from this guy; he's very thorough, detailed, and very logical in teaching. i like his style very much.
You can find a lot more clips of his teaching in BiliBili
So, if I understand correctly, the principle seems to be just like a step-in power jab in boxing, but starting and ending at more difficult positions, which makes it harder to get instinctively, so the emphasis on the principle is more pronounced. Very nice explanation.
Very great demonstration. Thank you very much. Now I know why I pained my knees.
Good that you found out! Health first!
Thank you, my knees hurt a lot and I did not know why, now I know. Thanks for the advice.
Your channel is really good. Please do a whole tutorial of Baji Quan fighting style, like everything. How to punch, how to kick, how to block. I really wanna learn more about this martial art.
ruclips.net/user/bajitanglang there's some good tutorial stuff here, there is also pretty good dvd series by Adam Hsu
@@yamiyomizuki Adam Hsu style is a different lineage. It's not the same principles as in this video here.
@@Livingtree32 the principles of baji wouldn't change that much from lineage to lineage.
@@yamiyomizuki Yes, they do. Maybe not in theory, but definitely in practice. Much of the Mengcun lineage's content was formulated and added in the last 3 or 4 generations, which is long after the split between the lineages occurred. So naturally there will be differences.
Wow, u sure know a lot about Baji Quan 👍
Thank you Master! This message is invaluable. If we learn the form and concepts of our art, but not it's little details(intricacies) then we still have a very low level of kung fu. Gratitude!!!🙏
muito bom tem curso onLine?
When your knee hurts you will know 😭😭
The correct ones are beautiful in a way I can't describe, it's not similar to anything I know.
Thank you for posting this. Do you recommend a specific video in your collection for beginner basics? Peace.
Excellent thank
true teaching !
Very good explanation.. where is ur class
In Jiangxi, Nanchang, China. You need to speak Chinese to practice with Tang Laoshi, as he doesn´t speak English.
So it s not sifu.. in baji we use laoshi instead? Wo huei jiang hwa yi..
You may only call someone shifu after you have had a baishi ceremony under him. Until then a teacher is just a teacher (laoshi). Laoshi and shifu are not titles, but terms of adressing someone, which in Chinese culture always has to do with the relationship between two people. Not only in Baji, this is Chinese confucian etiquette, found in all life situations.
All right. Thank you for ur explanation.. i m also a baishi student of some kungfu lineage. I wish someday can learn from master Tang
@@Linanjaya laoshi is teacher, sifu is something like master, as in when you are a disciple.
I learned a lot from this. Xie xie nin!
光這麼說，在初學者也是無甚麼用，震腳是練腰的結果，不在腳要怎麼動心思上，若練得身腰蛹動，就是太極也出震腳，外形上高低，大少漂亮與否是後話，重點是有没有用，下盤穩，由下盤發力。
Why does my Stomp hit my head so hard, it dizzy me..
still couldn't figure how to stomp properly..
It says in video if your knee or head hurts you are doing it incorrectly and need to stop doing it that way immediately. Some of the demonstrations in the video he is showing ways that you should NOT do.
Well if they hurt, try relatively soft ones as practice so they don't rock your brain every time you do it. Then dial it up. I'm no expert on martial arts but that's just how practice in any sport, art, or technique goes.
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What do the terms duo nian and chuang mean?
Stomping, sliding, rushing forward
Please make a video elucidating them
Aim from indonesia.. I like baji quan.. 😍
What are you aiming at again xD
@@bakapotato5327 lol
LEO FROM TEKKEN
Fajin stomping
1:02-1:10 is the best advice. Lol
我不同意你的想法
我認為，練大打小。
我認為應該用第一種練。
實戰，你你說的方法，踩掉敵人的腳指 !!!
..............
不過，我不是學"八極拳"的。
我是學楊太的。
我學的套路是"楊家老架108式"
所以，我代表楊太的觀點 !!!
这是哪个八级拳吗？
It is Mengcun Wu Family Kaimen Bajiquan, but these basic explanations are valid for all styles!
Nanchang Bajiquan I don't agree, I don't know if you ever watched the Taiwan (wutan) version but they ways get disconnected from the ground... My teacher from hebei always told me to slide my toes over the ground to stay connected. It's impossible to use the hips proper if there was no connection :)
The only thing I can say is that if you do the mistakes Tang Laoshi points out in the video, you're guaranteed to hurt your knees in the long run. Not talking about anyone else's practice, they have to know on their own.
Nanchang Bajiquan totally agree with you.
@@5324TuiG I practice the Wutan version.
To be clear, no , we are not very far from the ground.
I know what you meant, where in some of our videos, you may see the students stomp with every step they make.
Another thing to clarify , in Wutan , we train in a lower stance than other styles.
This is all just in training , not in practical usage.
The reason why the wutan version is very different from other styles is because of the grandmaster Liu Yun Qiao. He was the last disciple of the grandmaster Li Shuwen.
When he first became grandmaster Li's disciple, grandmaster Li is already at an old age , he changed a lot due to his old age.
And grandmaster Liu had also learned many other styles of martial arts like Baguazhang and taichi, to improve his baji.
actually there's almost no stomping if you do it correctly. it's more about the twist and snap rather than the stomp. imagine yourself as a whip, and your fist is the end of the whip. the stomp is just the byproduct of the snap. realistically, if you snap too fast before you hit your opponent (the stomp is before or right at the moment of your fist impacting the target) most of the force created by the body twist is practically gone, absorbed by your stomp to the ground. so ideally you want to hit your target just right before your foot touches the ground, just like a jab punch. and this takes a loooooot of practice.
Correct, however in Bajiquan we practice with stomping first in the beginners' stage to get the mechanics right. In the advanced training, there is no stomping anymore.
@@Livingtree32 ah i get it! It's to get the feel of the motion and timing! Just like when a boxing coach used worn out mitts for newbie to punch rather than normal mitts, so that they could get the feel of the impact and its locations.
If you train Northern Longfist that's true yes. Baji and Xingyi train dropping force as well.
I used to use the stomping technique alot it worked great as a spacing tool more than anything followed by a slip into a shoulder or backfist personally don't like the elbows A bit easier to me to get the shoulder or backfist off,off of a slipped punch this technique is insane if somebody has a huge reach advantage on you that's in my opinion the most practical application of bajiquan other wise other martial arts are better at what they do baji the stomping technique is great at getting inside tbh after that it's probably just more effective to go into a grapple since your already kinda turned sideways already use your leverage you have for an armbar or a headlock
Also i just realized this kinda similar to how people do high jumps in basket ball i guess if you can do that you might get the gist its a little different