Hello maxon team. Great work on the updates. But I have to say, we are multiple users in the industry who work as freelancers,and the pricing of your tools are getting out of hand. Most of us have no choice but turning to other alternatives like blender which is free. We are honestly hopeful that maxon will hear us and start doing something for indie devs and freelancers. We can’t continue this path, the cost of living is skyrocketing. And paying at least 150CAD(!!) to use a software monthly is just not realistic.
Agreed! You would think with this pricing they would have multiple big updates every release. But nope. I mean like, Sparse Surface and Volume emissions for Pyro + Spline Follow for particles? That's it? for 2025 update? The fact that people even mention Blender as a comparison to C4D is embarrassing. There should be no comparison between a premium and a free software. On top of that, imagine if you are new to 3D and want to learn C4D, you have to pay $169/month for Maxon One or $109/month for C4D alone?? As a hobbyist? Hello?!
Agreed. Great updates. However, whilst C4D is one of the most artist friendly 3D applications available the pricing for indies is not. C4D suits people who need to use lots of other design software by the nature of their trade. It fits very well into that multi-application workflow by design with good integration and workflows that support other design software (particularly Adobe). Yet, it's one of the least affordable solutions for exactly that user group. Indie freelancers earning less than 100k are effectively better suited going elsewhere. You can see the results as less and less content creators are using C4D and its community gradually hollows out.
@@RayDale-TSM exactly. I can’t teach c4d to my students anymore, most of them will not be able to afford c4d in the long run. I now simply teach blender whenever I have a course to give.
Just want to say, because maybe if enough people do they will actually listen, that as much as I love using Maxon there is no possible way I will be able to afford it. I am currently learning Blender and Houdini which I will make the switch to. I have been using C4D only through education licenses, and when that runs out I cannot imagine a situation where I am able to afford the cost of the full product. I truly cannot comprehend why they price out indie and freelancers, it's nonsensical to me.
Keep going, you're losing your customer base one update at a time, with your outrageous subscription prices and updates that bring little to no real improvement. Each new version delivers nothing but cosmetic changes, bugs, and features no one asked for. You’re charging premium prices for what feels like minimal effort, well donr maxon.
Thank god I moved to Houdini. C4D is great for quick and dirty but the price should reflect that. When the client starts getting nuanced in their feedback you hit a wall. Houdini can do so much more than Cinema and has an indie license that you can run on two PC's, enough said
@@anthonythorne8708 I am a c4D user.. I hate Blender but I have to admit that it is true, Blender is free and Maxon is not trying hard enough to offer something that justifies the payment.. I would really like to migrate elsewhere and leave Maxon.. We have been waiting forever for a fucking fluid system. Blender with every update makes giant steps..Houdini even more.. Houdini costs $300 a year and all these updates nonsense that Maxon has brought out with this ridiculous update, Houdini has had them for a long time already.
Zbrush Core was a POS on delivery. Didn't have instructions, and had tools that weren't in the normal Zbrush. You had to write tech support just to find out what some of it did. And apparently C4D still has bugs people are mad about. But maybe this is a new or different team. Maybe this time it will be better.
The updates are great and all. But can we just buy the damn product, for an affordable price. Enough with all of the subscriptions. I've started using blender now, because I don't want to pay a such a big amount of money every month, while never owning anything afterwards. It's not customers first and It's ridiculous. I'll happily buy it, not rent it and 1k is my limit. So if you can make a 1k maxon one perpetual license for indie, that would be great. Then I'll buy updates when I can afford it and feel like I need it.
@@nonyabuiz2023 They just know they can earn much more, doing it like this. And i don't blame them. They are a company and all they care about (and should care about) as a company, is earning money. However, this should be changed by law. It's ridiculous that you can't own the product and is required to pay a subscription fee, that they can change the price of, whenever they feel like it. regardless of this changing by law or not, we just need a program that put customers first. Just look at steam. EA, ubisoft, etc are all going back to steam, because they failed with their own platforms. Which is why I've changed to blender after being a user of 3ds max, maya and Cinema 4d for the past 12 years. What I'm worried about, is this trend of subscription growing. I don't want to pay a subscription for my car, fridge, watch, etc. btw, all of those examples, in some cases, already have a subscription.
the only downside to this promo is that you went and focused solely on the ipad .. like there are a LOT of none mac tablets out there will really high specs as well... so how should we take this ? that "it is finally out for the ipad" OR that all the rest of the brands "none apple brands" are abandonware ?
It's quite frustrating that you can't read particles with redshift you export from Embergen, Arnold can, Vray can... Redshift can't. When will they solve this?
I've got work in this release! Such a blast to get to create for it! Also - for a lot of the comments on feedback - just know that a lot of it is stuff devs and other maxon folks are well aware of. Some of these things could be underway, or on lists for the future releases. Takes time to work on these features and make sure they're all programmed to work properly across devices.
Could you add possibility to change brush size on [ ] hotkeys as on desktop Zbrush version? This hotkey we have in any digital art tool by default. This increases accessibility for left-handed artists.
Cool features but... not very practical for Broadcast anyway which I believe is your biggest branch, nobody uses pyro or particles on an everyday basis.
It's a shame that there is no access to iPad applications for a huge audience from Russia and Belarus. Personally, I waited a long time for it to come out on the iPad, but apparently it was not meant to be, I will continue to use Nomad Sculpt, this application is available everywhere.😔
You guys should be taking AI much more seriously, you could have used it as optional texture engine, saving artist heaps of time, heck you could have inovated in that area. Also no gaussian splatting? You guys are gonna fall behind.
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Hello maxon team. Great work on the updates. But I have to say, we are multiple users in the industry who work as freelancers,and the pricing of your tools are getting out of hand. Most of us have no choice but turning to other alternatives like blender which is free. We are honestly hopeful that maxon will hear us and start doing something for indie devs and freelancers. We can’t continue this path, the cost of living is skyrocketing. And paying at least 150CAD(!!) to use a software monthly is just not realistic.
Agreed. Maya is a fifth of that price for Indies!!!
I have already started learning Blender, they will not listen just make the change
Agreed! You would think with this pricing they would have multiple big updates every release. But nope. I mean like, Sparse Surface and Volume emissions for Pyro + Spline Follow for particles? That's it? for 2025 update? The fact that people even mention Blender as a comparison to C4D is embarrassing. There should be no comparison between a premium and a free software. On top of that, imagine if you are new to 3D and want to learn C4D, you have to pay $169/month for Maxon One or $109/month for C4D alone?? As a hobbyist? Hello?!
Agreed. Great updates. However, whilst C4D is one of the most artist friendly 3D applications available the pricing for indies is not. C4D suits people who need to use lots of other design software by the nature of their trade. It fits very well into that multi-application workflow by design with good integration and workflows that support other design software (particularly Adobe). Yet, it's one of the least affordable solutions for exactly that user group. Indie freelancers earning less than 100k are effectively better suited going elsewhere. You can see the results as less and less content creators are using C4D and its community gradually hollows out.
@@RayDale-TSM exactly. I can’t teach c4d to my students anymore, most of them will not be able to afford c4d in the long run. I now simply teach blender whenever I have a course to give.
GIVE US AN INDIE LICENSE!
indie AND regular perpetual! Users should start demand a change in the industry.
Pricing sooo expensive. Blender in fucking free. Come on!!!!!!!!!
They will ignore this, and it will be their downfall.
@@cardermedia Yes!
Agree
Just want to say, because maybe if enough people do they will actually listen, that as much as I love using Maxon there is no possible way I will be able to afford it. I am currently learning Blender and Houdini which I will make the switch to. I have been using C4D only through education licenses, and when that runs out I cannot imagine a situation where I am able to afford the cost of the full product.
I truly cannot comprehend why they price out indie and freelancers, it's nonsensical to me.
more people need to request perpetuals. thats when all this sht started, because they can do what they want with users, since the subscriptions.
Bring down the price and I am happy to buy a license
everyone is so pissed about the c4d bugs....i hope they mentioned some improvements on that front...
@@proceduralcoffee he's right.
So pissed of the bugs, especially when we pay the high price!
@@proceduralcoffee We
Keep going, you're losing your customer base one update at a time, with your outrageous subscription prices and updates that bring little to no real improvement. Each new version delivers nothing but cosmetic changes, bugs, and features no one asked for. You’re charging premium prices for what feels like minimal effort, well donr maxon.
I love Houdini, I’ll never look back. They treats their customers fairly.
Thank god I moved to Houdini. C4D is great for quick and dirty but the price should reflect that. When the client starts getting nuanced in their feedback you hit a wall. Houdini can do so much more than Cinema and has an indie license that you can run on two PC's, enough said
Totally agreed. I feel like I’ve wasted years using these inferior tools
indie licence ? like houdini, maya???? maxon wake up
Uh!… where’s the built in liquid simulator! 😢
Try jet fluids
Don’t bother. Stop playing with toys, go Houdini
this is cool update and all, but... blender is free.
It’ll never be free of Blender idiots spamming threads. They’re like flies that never go away.
@@anthonythorne8708 I am a c4D user.. I hate Blender but I have to admit that it is true, Blender is free and Maxon is not trying hard enough to offer something that justifies the payment.. I would really like to migrate elsewhere and leave Maxon..
We have been waiting forever for a fucking fluid system.
Blender with every update makes giant steps..Houdini even more.. Houdini costs $300 a year and all these updates nonsense that Maxon has brought out with this ridiculous update, Houdini has had them for a long time already.
@@anthonythorne8708 oh man, look at all the money I'm saving lol
@@anthonythorne8708 It's because none of them are actually working professionally in it.
@@anthonythorne8708 Maybe because they shouldn't have almost tripled the subscription prices [Zbrush]
Zbrush Core was a POS on delivery. Didn't have instructions, and had tools that weren't in the normal Zbrush. You had to write tech support just to find out what some of it did. And apparently C4D still has bugs people are mad about. But maybe this is a new or different team. Maybe this time it will be better.
Hello Blender, I coming after 9 years of Cinema 4D!
Read the comments of people who use the program, maybe something will change! :)
And when do modeling tools improve?
won´t happen, you have to pay anyways ;) the trap is called "subscription", yyayyy
This release is bonkers! Great work Maxon!!
The updates are great and all. But can we just buy the damn product, for an affordable price. Enough with all of the subscriptions.
I've started using blender now, because I don't want to pay a such a big amount of money every month, while never owning anything afterwards. It's not customers first and It's ridiculous.
I'll happily buy it, not rent it and 1k is my limit. So if you can make a 1k maxon one perpetual license for indie, that would be great. Then I'll buy updates when I can afford it and feel like I need it.
Shows you they don’t have confidence in their own product
@@nonyabuiz2023 They just know they can earn much more, doing it like this. And i don't blame them. They are a company and all they care about (and should care about) as a company, is earning money. However, this should be changed by law. It's ridiculous that you can't own the product and is required to pay a subscription fee, that they can change the price of, whenever they feel like it.
regardless of this changing by law or not, we just need a program that put customers first. Just look at steam. EA, ubisoft, etc are all going back to steam, because they failed with their own platforms. Which is why I've changed to blender after being a user of 3ds max, maya and Cinema 4d for the past 12 years.
What I'm worried about, is this trend of subscription growing. I don't want to pay a subscription for my car, fridge, watch, etc.
btw, all of those examples, in some cases, already have a subscription.
Bla Bla Bla........Pathsteps completely wrong...Maxon will always be 10 steps behind Houdini until he creates a consistent LIQUID SYSTEM!!!
Indie license and perpetual or ... Hello blender
the only downside to this promo is that you went and focused solely on the ipad ..
like there are a LOT of none mac tablets out there will really high specs as well...
so how should we take this ?
that "it is finally out for the ipad" OR that all the rest of the brands "none apple brands" are abandonware ?
Zbrush for Android soon?
It's quite frustrating that you can't read particles with redshift you export from Embergen, Arnold can, Vray can... Redshift can't. When will they solve this?
ok, but when will the indie license be released?
@@paper2309 it seems Maxon support has not answered or helped in any of those questions. I suggest switching to alternatives like Houdini and blender.
I am expecting good water simulation for the price, sadly not on ths update
Zbrush for iPad without ZModeler? 😢 How can you….?!
I've got work in this release! Such a blast to get to create for it!
Also - for a lot of the comments on feedback - just know that a lot of it is stuff devs and other maxon folks are well aware of. Some of these things could be underway, or on lists for the future releases. Takes time to work on these features and make sure they're all programmed to work properly across devices.
Now that redshift will come with C4D, should i cancel my redshift subscription? I pay for C4D AND redshift.
@@ruicarneiro1640 try Octane 🤣
When will Redshift support the use of material decals, which will make making materials easier
has long supported
But can I swap my license with one click?
been waiting for this for a while
how to insert background image ipad zbrush
Could you add possibility to change brush size on [ ] hotkeys as on desktop Zbrush version? This hotkey we have in any digital art tool by default. This increases accessibility for left-handed artists.
Make shortcut
@@Haxzyr Thank you, I will definitely do that when Zbrush for iPad gives me the opportunity to make shortcuts.
So many great new features. My favorite is the last one, the ability to switch licenses on computers without going into the web site. :)
This is just sad!
Follow spline modifier..... love it! PS: 6:42 nano nano nano
Houdini has been bringing it for years, hahaha
focus is soft @ 16:10
still less featured than blender and more expensive than blender, really not worth it
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Only iPad?...... No android?
So pumped. Volume AOVs and being able to change the license in the app are great feature adds.
Cool features but... not very practical for Broadcast anyway which I believe is your biggest branch, nobody uses pyro or particles on an everyday basis.
thanks for hard work
i wish the best for any maxon team
What a massive release! Excited to try these new features out. Thanks Maxon.
It's a shame that there is no access to iPad applications for a huge audience from Russia and Belarus. Personally, I waited a long time for it to come out on the iPad, but apparently it was not meant to be, I will continue to use Nomad Sculpt, this application is available everywhere.😔
I see it as a plus.
You guys should be taking AI much more seriously, you could have used it as optional texture engine, saving artist heaps of time, heck you could have inovated in that area. Also no gaussian splatting? You guys are gonna fall behind.
Why is it not part of the MAXON ONE subscription?
RIP Blender
Lol!