M93 raffica is a variant of the M9 pistol so here in italy we call the M9 as Beretta92 and cod developers use the Name B "beretta" 23 R "raffica". This for showing than the M93 raffica and the B23R are the same gun
Michelangelo Tinarelli in real life it might be the same gun but the ak from cod4, mw2, bo1, and mw3 all have different stats the same way the B23 and M93 have different stats.
Usp never got any credit but once I used it I realized it was a beast - it's like the tac 45 but more accurate , better range , and bigger mag if I'm right
If you're gonna go by pre-patch for the other weapons, remember the dual wield FMG9s? They were more accurate dual wielded than when you aim down sights with one of them. Especially if you use steady aim.
I actually got my first MOAB with the FMG9s, I didn't even own the game, it was borrowed, They're so over powered anyone could get a MOAB, Just go onto Infected and farm your MOABS.
Funny thing is, the Tac 45 and the Five-Seven from BlOps2 actually had the same shots to kill at short, middle and long distances, but the distances were different. They were both 2 at short range but the Five-Seven dropped to 3 really quick. However, after the Tac 45 dropped to 3 it went to 4 faster whereas the Five-Seven stayed at 3 for a longer distance. Also, the Five-Seven had a faster RPM. The reason the Tac45 is considered OP is because people aren't trying to use it at the distance that gets 4 shots. Most went for that 2 shot kill which is why it had the edge up close on the Five-Seven.
The CoD4 G3 was an animal. It was included as a secondary in one of the starting classes and had the stopping power and range of the m14 from BOPS 1. But I have to say that the FMG9 is fucking savage with any attachments.
Pythons? Tac 45? Kap 40? B23R? Dude, NO treyarch secondaries were op at all. All of the primaries were still better. The fuck are people going on about?
Yeah gotta agree with the dual models pre-patch being the most overpowered secondary in history and I would even put them in the running as most overpowered gun in general. I remember being killed across the map with those things. It was like dual wielding sniper rifles.
+Rouzla Clearly all of them came into the series late, nothing has ever come close to the pre patch and even after the patch Model 1887's those things were basically instakill
Arthur Yan in other words you have never played MW2 MW3 and black ops 2 the KAP 40 FMG9 akimbo and model 1887 akimbo prepatch are OP and you are likely a 5 year old
I remember the good old days when people were saying that the intervention was such a good sniper and I just come on up with my models and out snipe them
Honestly I think this is the most accurate Top 10 so far Chaos the order you put these weapons in is almost perfect the only one I would change is the spas-12 I would only move it up 1 to number 3 so not much of a change. Great video 100% agree with the list.
I can see the pre patch Models being WAY OP. I was always annoying to die with those. But I'd say the FMG9's were the most ridiculous OP secondary I came across. Once people realized it, it was game over. The only one that I used personally was the MP9 which I will say felt like having 2 primaries.
1:18: Oh, the nostalgia of BO1 comes flooding back to me! I remember I ALWAYS used them as my secondary on EVERY SINGLE class I made, & I even still do, but only now & then. I always though the Python was the SINGLE coolest looking revolver in CoD HISTORY! (& no, I'm not shitting you) & it also truly did have the most bad ass sounding name. I even thought Python was a little bit cooler of a name than the Executioner, but that's just my opinion, & at least the Python actually had a longer range than 1 inch on the Executioner & also unlike the Executioner: THE PYTHON CAN ACTUALLY KILL A PLAYER EVEN WITHOUT ANY ATTACHMENTS!! But the Python had some REALLY unique attachments other than Dual Wield: You can put an ACOG Sight on the Python, like the .44 Magnum from Ghosts: You could also put a Snub Nose on the Python, which made it do slightly less damage, but made it more accurate: & lastly, probably the Python's best attachment if you didn't use Sleight of Hand, you can put a Speed Reloader on the Python, which means without the Speed Reloader, you have to manually put every bullet in each cylinder at an overall very slow speed, so the Speed Reloader makes you reload in like, half or maybe even 2/3 of the time. So ultimately, I just remember loving the Dual Wield Python's because if you were fast enough to use them, they were fun as hell to use, albeit a bit annoying to be killed BY.
Why don't people understand what OP means!? None of these guns are even remotely CLOSE to being OP EXCEPT the dual wield models on Mw2, the pistols in BO2 aren't overpowered because all of the primaries are better than the pistols.
I agree whats the point of pistols and machine pistols if you cant kill someone with it, if it were up to the cod community they would just have ar's and smg's and no secondries period or snipers or shotguns which shotguns have sucked since mw2 beside blops 2 and mw3's pre patched striker. they also probably would take out rockets so you couldnt take down scorestreaks.
There's a difference between OP, and being powerful. The secondaries are powerful at close range, but at medium-long, literally anything could beat a pistol. That alone doesn't make a secondary OP
Bo2 five seven. The pocket fal has a high fire cap and virtually no recoil. Has large magazine and the best damage profile over range for a semi auto in a treyarch game. Not op necessarily, but very deadly and fun to use.
I wonder if anyone was thinking of the XM25 from MW3? I was personally thinking of putting it at 9 or 10, what people don't realise that it was one of the most versatile weapons in CoD history just because you could set the range at which the grenade exploded. If the grenade hit the player directly, it would be a 1HKO, if you set it to explode at minimum range (3m) it would be a fast-firing shotgun, or you could just use it like a marksman rifle. It even came with a decent mag size, an ok reload time and the grenades fired straight with NO drop. In the right hands, you could practically be a one man army with this thing. Also, I really think the BO2 crossbow should have made the honourable mentions, and to clarify things, the .357 magnum from WaW actually had a higher fire rate and lower recoil than the CoD4 desert eagle, being more accurate and therefore quicker to kill.
I personally feel as though that the fiv-seven from black ops 2 were atleast top 3 material, they sure arent the strongest, but with zero recoil, amazing acuracy, a high rate of fire (of which I could still over sample cause of my massive trigger finger), and its giant clip, this gun could often get me a better gameplay than a typical primary.
Making shotguns primary also made them more overpowered because now as standard 2 attachments were available 3 with a perk and you could also have it as a secondary still now allowing 2 shotguns with up to 5 attachments between them.
I would have said the dual scorpions from mw3 pre-patch. The hip fire cone was so small you could snipe people halfway across the map without steady aim.
I think it should go like this my opinion 5.PDW golden 4.dualweald-kap 40 3.dualweald-23br 2.crossbow with treble bombs on the arrow and killed them without the bomb. 1.ballistic-knives the shooty things because im really skilled with fast hits and aims when it comes to ballistic knives and crossbows.
I remember watching my bro play mw2 before I got it and he was using dual rafficas, i thought they were full auto until i played because he would shoot one at a time so there was constant bullets. they were crazy.
I'm surprised the AA12 didn't get higher on the list. With stopping power, its one hit kills were possible and gave the spas a run for its money. Best gun to get multikills and even the riot shield can't protect you. I'm glad its returning as the Haymaker-12 in BO3 XD
You should do a top 10 COOLEST secondarys in cod history im gonna say it right now, the akimbo rangers on mw2, because the only thing cooler than a person kicking ass with a double barrel shotgun is a person kicking ass with 2 double barrel shotguns.
if were talking about overpowered than I think everyone can agree with me when I say that kastet w/ dangerclose is the most godly overpowered secondary
duuuude this whole time i was watching the video i was thinking please have 1887 akimbo before patch >.< most op secondaries hands down! Like for you my friend, you did good
Dual wield rangers from mw2 is definitely the best secondary. A reaction time and input lag of a millisecond is needed to get a hitmarker on the guy using it.
Haven't watched it yet. Let's see how close I can get. MW2 Spas, G18s, and pre patch 1887s BO2 Pistols in general, but I'm guessing the kap-40, followed by the FN Five seveN are going to be in the video The RPG in general CoD4 Deagle Maybe the XM18 and the Javalin? I haven't played enough Ghosts to get a feel for the secondaries, honestly.
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i know it's complicated, but if you could put a little gameplay with those weapons, would be a LOT cooler!
I concur with that statement.
He should do that
VodkaKilla u
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That's actually a good idea
Littledude1202
I posted this same comment on a bunch of other top tens and he ignores them
People should like this cuz it's actually a really good idea
Jimmy better do this
Number 1: dsr 50
top ten sexiest reloads of cod history ???
Wat
top ten sexiest grass textures
I’m late, but he did this. Lol
I swear every list had forgotten about the. 44 from mw3 it's such a beast, at least honerable mention?
I agree
Mw3 was my best cod and the 44. Was like,the beast I would have 29 kills and like 5 deaths
One Man Army should be in here because it's technically a secondary.
Haha lol true.
Forbidden Evil But why is it OP?
Because paired with Danger Close = no skill.
Forbidden Evil But, OMA isn't explosive it just allows you to change yr class in game.
Unlimited explosives... that's only reason why anyone ever used One Man Army.
The B23R wishes it was the M93 Rafica. If you don't believe me watch the kill at 4:09 or 5:37
The R stands for Rafica dumbass.
How is he a dumbass? He stated the B23 wishes it was an M93. Which would be true since the B23 is terrible and is in the worst COD to exist.
***** still 2 different guns
M93 raffica is a variant of the M9 pistol so here in italy we call the M9 as Beretta92 and cod developers use the Name B "beretta" 23 R "raffica". This for showing than the M93 raffica and the B23R are the same gun
Michelangelo Tinarelli in real life it might be the same gun but the ak from cod4, mw2, bo1, and mw3 all have different stats the same way the B23 and M93 have different stats.
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Those 1887 Model shotguns were epic though!! Oh the memories!
the MP9 was even more OP with silencer
ya
i remember running the MP9 silencer and top scored 6 games in a row, that thing was almost better then the fmg9s
i think they are
***** i used it with extended mags once...it was garbage
I used to use it but I didn't know it was opi thought I was just too good:p
In mw2 everything was so op it is balanced but it is aging well still a great cod
I still want to play it, but my PS3 won't load discs anymore. Last time I played it you could find some good matches.
+Grayson Elder if you wanted you could buy it from the ps store as a download but it's probably a rip off
My list of OP secondaries:
-Every BO2 pistol except for Executioner
-Every MW2 shotgun
-USP .45 from MW2 and MW3
Usp never got any credit but once I used it I realized it was a beast - it's like the tac 45 but more accurate , better range , and bigger mag if I'm right
M9 i loved. Great accuracy, fire rate and bigger clips than usp.
If you're gonna go by pre-patch for the other weapons, remember the dual wield FMG9s? They were more accurate dual wielded than when you aim down sights with one of them.
Especially if you use steady aim.
I actually got my first MOAB with the FMG9s, I didn't even own the game, it was borrowed, They're so over powered anyone could get a MOAB, Just go onto Infected and farm your MOABS.
Infected moabs/kems don't count dude.
Aleandro Mirabal Yeah in Domination you can camp your ass off and just wait.
Aleandro Mirabal dude are you dumb. Infected is the easiest mode for moabs. They only have throwing knives 😞
Funny thing is, the Tac 45 and the Five-Seven from BlOps2 actually had the same shots to kill at short, middle and long distances, but the distances were different. They were both 2 at short range but the Five-Seven dropped to 3 really quick. However, after the Tac 45 dropped to 3 it went to 4 faster whereas the Five-Seven stayed at 3 for a longer distance. Also, the Five-Seven had a faster RPM. The reason the Tac45 is considered OP is because people aren't trying to use it at the distance that gets 4 shots. Most went for that 2 shot kill which is why it had the edge up close on the Five-Seven.
What about the MP9 from MW3, that thing was practically an accurate smg.
It was honorable mention...
+MatheW CZ No it wasn't.
+MatheW CZ It was in the list.
The CoD4 G3 was an animal. It was included as a secondary in one of the starting classes and had the stopping power and range of the m14 from BOPS 1. But I have to say that the FMG9 is fucking savage with any attachments.
am i the only one who loved using akimbo usp45s in mw2?? that shit was deadly in close range
Akimbo intervention all the way
+gamer life bruh
+Chicken FTW dude I ran dual MP5k in black ops 1
I remember it having
a super fast knife
+Co-Velocityyy You don't try the FGM9 Akimbo, rigth?
Haha, I remember the good old days of taking out my ACR with a noob tube, and duel Models, and making all the kids scream xD. Ah, the good old days.
hey! suggestion- start putting gameplay of the gun with the top 10?
+po Yeah, and a loadout suggestion for the gun too.
yup, mp9 is such an op secondary, got a silenced version as my secondary for sniper classes, so good
The Striker shotgun. That thing was spam-alishous!
That's a prim.....nevermine, fuck this shit
+Space Magic The striker was a secondary too ya know.
Lol in MW2 it was a secondary bro haha
Well shit, all i was thinking was MW3 at that time, my bad
Kap 40 with an extended clip is great , whole 20 rounds really makes it easier to kill if you use it with burns in tight spaces
Pythons? Tac 45? Kap 40? B23R? Dude, NO treyarch secondaries were op at all. All of the primaries were still better. The fuck are people going on about?
I love the model 1887. When you had them akimbo & they shot it would spin in your hand. So dope.
I'd say the One Man Army was the most over powered secondary...
Yeah gotta agree with the dual models pre-patch being the most overpowered secondary in history and I would even put them in the running as most overpowered gun in general. I remember being killed across the map with those things. It was like dual wielding sniper rifles.
fuck no, hands down, fmgs r the most over powered, more over powered then any otha gun pre patch
Even after the patch, all it really did was lower the fire rate, which basically just helped you use less ammo and created less recoil lol.
If they are akimbo
+Marlon Romero you clearly didnt play with the models then
+Rouzla Clearly all of them came into the series late, nothing has ever come close to the pre patch and even after the patch Model 1887's those things were basically instakill
***** hey disrespectful idiot
The b23r, kap 40, tac 45 and the desert eagle are on this list. What a surprise
Wish AW was out when Choas made this vid. The rw1 would be number 1
***** yes...
Foo swegzzZZz no lol you guys are clueless
CydiaStuffReviews lol k h0e
Arthur Yan In other words, you've never played mw2 prepatch and are likely a little kid.
Arthur Yan in other words you have never played MW2 MW3 and black ops 2 the KAP 40 FMG9 akimbo and model 1887 akimbo prepatch are OP and you are likely a 5 year old
Akimbo Raficas should be in 3rd. You didn't need to spay like most of the akimbo weapons on this list. 1 burst and they're dead.
Mp9 is the best secondary in cod history in my opinion
It crushes the kap40
MP9, I remember putting extra mags and on it and using it as if it were an LMG. It was so good
Obviously the executioner should've been up there
You should do a top ten of the all the top tens you've done so far lol. It would be both funny and nostalgic to see (:
what about the five seven akimbo from mw3? you have instant reloads!
Itz Marktenz agree, 0 recoil, and if you have a trigger finger you can shoot them as fast as the damn mp7 XD, 3-4 shots to kill, very op
No one seems to notice that bo2 five7 akimbos are two shot- kill too! More ammo and more accuracy than tac 45's
Wund3rB4um Well I have a great triggerfinger, So i go with suppressor and fast mag, I can spray the shit outta it and reload instantly! >:D
qTY3 same! I prefer to use supressor or long barrel too nut just noted that akimbo is way better than tac 45 akimbo :)
KingOfJamaica Both MW3 and BO2 had great Five Seven....
I missed the Five Seven from BO2, that gun was so OP when you had a triggerfinger
akimbo magnums from MW2?
I usually do not agree with your lists, but this was actually very well done
The marshals would've been on here
The video was created beffore Black ops 3
+The Magnificent Kitty ` I know
+IL ZapZesty that's why they said would've
Single Tac 45 was awesome so many swarms with it. You don't even need a primary
Every secondary in mw2.
I remember the good old days when people were saying that the intervention was such a good sniper and I just come on up with my models and out snipe them
Five-seven akimbo from MW3 and BO2 are prety overpovered
Sorry for my speling im from croatia
Honestly I think this is the most accurate Top 10 so far Chaos the order you put these weapons in is almost perfect the only one I would change is the spas-12 I would only move it up 1 to number 3 so not much of a change. Great video 100% agree with the list.
You forgot the rpg
CentinalxGaming yes he did it was a javelin not the rpg.....
CentinalxGaming I was just pointing out that he didn't mention the rpg. Not that I believe it is supposed to be on this list.
Cyrus Falsafi are you the loyal patriot?
I can see the pre patch Models being WAY OP. I was always annoying to die with those. But I'd say the FMG9's were the most ridiculous OP secondary I came across. Once people realized it, it was game over. The only one that I used personally was the MP9 which I will say felt like having 2 primaries.
Mp9 from mw3.... By far
Yesssss
Mp9 should be number 1
1:18: Oh, the nostalgia of BO1 comes flooding back to me! I remember I ALWAYS used them as my secondary on EVERY SINGLE class I made, & I even still do, but only now & then. I always though the Python was the SINGLE coolest looking revolver in CoD HISTORY! (& no, I'm not shitting you) & it also truly did have the most bad ass sounding name. I even thought Python was a little bit cooler of a name than the Executioner, but that's just my opinion, & at least the Python actually had a longer range than 1 inch on the Executioner & also unlike the Executioner: THE PYTHON CAN ACTUALLY KILL A PLAYER EVEN WITHOUT ANY ATTACHMENTS!! But the Python had some REALLY unique attachments other than Dual Wield: You can put an ACOG Sight on the Python, like the .44 Magnum from Ghosts: You could also put a Snub Nose on the Python, which made it do slightly less damage, but made it more accurate: & lastly, probably the Python's best attachment if you didn't use Sleight of Hand, you can put a Speed Reloader on the Python, which means without the Speed Reloader, you have to manually put every bullet in each cylinder at an overall very slow speed, so the Speed Reloader makes you reload in like, half or maybe even 2/3 of the time. So ultimately, I just remember loving the Dual Wield Python's because if you were fast enough to use them, they were fun as hell to use, albeit a bit annoying to be killed BY.
Why don't people understand what OP means!? None of these guns are even remotely CLOSE to being OP EXCEPT the dual wield models on Mw2, the pistols in BO2 aren't overpowered because all of the primaries are better than the pistols.
I agree whats the point of pistols and machine pistols if you cant kill someone with it, if it were up to the cod community they would just have ar's and smg's and no secondries period or snipers or shotguns which shotguns have sucked since mw2 beside blops 2 and mw3's pre patched striker. they also probably would take out rockets so you couldnt take down scorestreaks.
What primaries have a two shot kill range?
+jimbo111589 the fal mw2, the shieva blops3, snipers semi auto, ghosts marksman rifles.
There's a difference between OP, and being powerful. The secondaries are powerful at close range, but at medium-long, literally anything could beat a pistol. That alone doesn't make a secondary OP
Except a shotgun
Bo2 five seven. The pocket fal has a high fire cap and virtually no recoil. Has large magazine and the best damage profile over range for a semi auto in a treyarch game. Not op necessarily, but very deadly and fun to use.
Bullshit spas 12 no. 1
spas should've been no.2 NOT 1 coz akimbo models would fuck up the spas-12
***** dude that pre patch models were to overpowered the spas-12 would get rekt
ppl whent sniping with the models before they where patched, nothing beats them!
Use it in mw2 man and youll go beast mode!(spas12)
When a KAP-40 had a FMJ it was even more powerful, it is one of my favorite pistols in cod history
The M93 Raffica is my go to gun once unlocked to fall back with, paired with a Sniper Rifle
Ballistic Knives, One shot kill, Just amazing.
I wonder if anyone was thinking of the XM25 from MW3? I was personally thinking of putting it at 9 or 10, what people don't realise that it was one of the most versatile weapons in CoD history just because you could set the range at which the grenade exploded. If the grenade hit the player directly, it would be a 1HKO, if you set it to explode at minimum range (3m) it would be a fast-firing shotgun, or you could just use it like a marksman rifle. It even came with a decent mag size, an ok reload time and the grenades fired straight with NO drop. In the right hands, you could practically be a one man army with this thing.
Also, I really think the BO2 crossbow should have made the honourable mentions, and to clarify things, the .357 magnum from WaW actually had a higher fire rate and lower recoil than the CoD4 desert eagle, being more accurate and therefore quicker to kill.
So glad someone else realises how OP the MP9 as a secondary is - it's better than half the primaries in MW3
I personally feel as though that the fiv-seven from black ops 2 were atleast top 3 material, they sure arent the strongest, but with zero recoil, amazing acuracy, a high rate of fire (of which I could still over sample cause of my massive trigger finger), and its giant clip, this gun could often get me a better gameplay than a typical primary.
Definitely agree with number 1&2 I was always building classes to stop those weapons
Making shotguns primary also made them more overpowered because now as standard 2 attachments were available 3 with a perk and you could also have it as a secondary still now allowing 2 shotguns with up to 5 attachments between them.
I would have said the dual scorpions from mw3 pre-patch. The hip fire cone was so small you could snipe people halfway across the map without steady aim.
I'll never forget those days. the Model days
YES THE FMG's, I was waiting the whole video to see those :D
No question about the models being #1 on the list, those things were insanely good.
The XM25 from MW3 was also overpowered, a semi-automatic grenade launcher just sounds op.
I would have loved to have seen footage of the Dual Models in MW2 pre-patch.
Honorable mention would be the p226 Akimbo in Ghosts. 2 shot kill close to medium range
Completely agree on the 1887. Sniped someone from across Afghan once.
I think it should go like this my opinion
5.PDW golden
4.dualweald-kap 40
3.dualweald-23br
2.crossbow with treble bombs on the arrow and killed them without the bomb.
1.ballistic-knives the shooty things because im really skilled with fast hits and aims when it comes to ballistic knives and crossbows.
i think you should do a top 10 dlc maps and a top 10 dlc packs (as a whole)
Models, fmr9s and g18s come to mind
I remember all those weapons pre-patch, ahh the good times!
I remember watching my bro play mw2 before I got it and he was using dual rafficas, i thought they were full auto until i played because he would shoot one at a time so there was constant bullets. they were crazy.
I'm surprised the AA12 didn't get higher on the list. With stopping power, its one hit kills were possible and gave the spas a run for its money. Best gun to get multikills and even the riot shield can't protect you.
I'm glad its returning as the Haymaker-12 in BO3 XD
the spas 12 has (in my opinion) the most ferocious sound in cod
I knew the pre patch models had to be up there if not number 1. There was no stopping those with that much range
Too bad they weren't on the list
Nick Sparklz But they were number 1. What are you talking about?
An-94 should be in there but besides that nice vid bro. Keep up the good work
You should do a top 10 COOLEST secondarys in cod history im gonna say it right now, the akimbo rangers on mw2, because the only thing cooler than a person kicking ass with a double barrel shotgun is a person kicking ass with 2 double barrel shotguns.
Rafica was like a 3 round burst sniper
Most people don't kno that the models was IW first nerf on a cod weapon
the noob tube launcher in MW2 was the most OP without a doubt.
Dual weild b23rs were so great at close range
if were talking about overpowered than I think everyone can agree with me when I say that kastet w/ dangerclose is the most godly overpowered secondary
The RW1 pistol from aw should’ve been on
I run kap-40 only on FFA and win almost every time, definetly my favorite BO2 pistol :)
Chaos what about the 1911 dual wield in BO1? in close range they were deadly and they looked like something Agent 47 would use
I agree with the honorable mention aa-12 some dude was running around in seatown it was gold got like 10 kills 30 deaths
MW3 running the MP7 and Mp9 was unstoppable lol
I would say the Noob Tube with One man army. That was so overpowered you could count it as a secondary on you primiary gun.
What about the exucutioner? That thing from Bo2 was like a shotgun! One hit KO
i loved da javelin.i got a game winning killcam once with it
I had finished the mp9 completely in mw3 it was awesome
I really liked the PP2000 with extended mags.
I remember that in mw3 whenever I would try to snipe I would always have the mp9 as the secondary and get more kills with it than the rifle
Chaosxsilencer do a top ten world at war weapons or a top ten best Lethals and tactical grenades
duuuude this whole time i was watching the video i was thinking please have 1887 akimbo before patch >.< most op secondaries hands down! Like for you my friend, you did good
Dual wield rangers from mw2 is definitely the best secondary. A reaction time and input lag of a millisecond is needed to get a hitmarker on the guy using it.
Models akimbo for sure. Those were the days running around with just those.
The MR6 from black ops 3 with Elo and high caliber is insane
Haven't watched it yet. Let's see how close I can get.
MW2 Spas, G18s, and pre patch 1887s
BO2 Pistols in general, but I'm guessing the kap-40, followed by the FN Five seveN are going to be in the video
The RPG in general
CoD4 Deagle
Maybe the XM18 and the Javalin?
I haven't played enough Ghosts to get a feel for the secondaries, honestly.