German mainstream scrambles to thwart rising popularity of the far right | DW News
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- The Alternative for Germany (AfD), which the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution has partially classified as right-wing extremist, is enjoying record highs in opinion polls.
At the same time, hundreds of thousands of people have been taking to the streets to demonstrate against the anti-immigration party.
The German Bundestag is also debating how to deal with the AfD, with the three governing parliamentary factions - the center-left Social Democrats (SPD), the Greens and the neoliberal Free Democrats (FDP)- submitting a motion on the issue. The topic: "Resilient democracy in a diverse country - a clear stand against the enemies of democracy and their plans of forced displacement."
The move was prompted by a media report about a meeting last fall of right-wing extremists, attended by AfD officials as well as members of the center-right Christian Democratic Union (CDU). The gathering is said to have been about plans for the so-called remigration, or expulsion, of millions of people who have immigrated to Germany.
In the parliamentary debate, Bernd Baumann, the AfD's parliamentary secretary and chief whip in the German parliament, told lawmakers the meeting was no more than a "small, private debate club," but not a "secret meeting dangerous to the public."
But Federal Interior Minister Nancy Faeser (SPD) called it "an active effort to shift borders and to spread contempt for democracy and misanthropy into the heart of society."
Faeser said she could also imagine banning the party - but only as a last resort.
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Meanwhile Pakistan kicked out 1 million Afghans.
Exactly! But not a minute of attention on them. No one calls them 'far right'...
The average person in Pakistan is not in support of letting go of Afghan at all. This is not the case with Germany.
Pakistan people are happy to host even Palestinian.
HAHAHHAHAH true
@@ahsaniqbal5084really? My pakistani friends says its really dangerous with the afghans
@@sophiahitch726your friends right .
Isn’t banning political opponents considered one of the signals that a government is authoritarian/anti-democratic?
It is anti democratic to totalitarian they're just considering
yes.
You don't understand the ideology of democracy
There are two ways of reading your question, either you are ignorant to Germany and German policies, or you in malice try to attempt to dilute to subject because you support Nazism or Extreme Right-wing ideology. I will give you the benefit of doubt, and choose ignorance as your questioning.
So here goes. It is not about "Banning political opponents" as there are plenty other parties in Germany that are in opposition to the government. German law forbid Nazism and extreme Right-wing ideology, due to their history. AfD has since its birth, tap-danced on the border to extremism, but never crossing, or so we thought. It seems now they has indeed passed over the line and into illegal territory. Which is what the courts will decide.
They wanna ban them bc they know they‘ll otherwise lose the next election. They plan to ban them under the premise of a few members of the party being in a secret club who are actually neo-fascist, which imho is like a good thing, the problem is that they use that to neferiously also ban all members of this very split party that aren’t fascist but just right wing and unhappy with the cdu who lead the country to its downfall over 16 years.
It’s right wing politics that brought us the problem, it’s right wing politics trying to solve the problem, it’s the rare rather left government trying to prohibit them from doing so, I understand why people are angry on all sides, it is undeniably authoritarian. Yes the fascist wing of the AfD should be prohibited, the members removed, but canceling a whole party with over 20% of all votes bc of some members? Thilo sarazzin who wrote a book about the problems of mass immigration was criticized heavily, yet no one banned the right wing cdu.
This is just a shameless attempt to try to stay in power, as they know all to well that the AfD is the most voted party after the other opportunistic right wing party called cdu.
I don’t like the fact the afd is so successful, but I’ve gotta face reality that as long as no other party fixes actually existing problems, the afd will always exist. If they ban it, there will just be a new party taking its place. It’s exactly what trump is to the US, a symptom of an existential problem. They think they can cure the desease by cutting of a limb, while the body is already rotten to the core.
Rather ban parties that try to address the problem than try to fix the problem themselves
That's how the left operates. Biggest finger pointers on the planet. Fix the problems and you won't have a far right issue.
Actually most people are blind to the systemic corruption of global capitalism which causes endless global war and siphons wealth upwards, creating attraction towards these right wing parties after liberals failures and falling in line with USA to detriment to German industrial economy.
My comment was auto deleted simply for pointing out this banning attempt is a cover for elite failure after joining to hip of USA over Ukraine, losing Germans industrial base to USA, and now those who suffer, the common folk having no alternative will obvious go right wing.
This is elite failure and RUclips censoring this milquetoast statement, bereft of insults, violence, threats, just an opinion proves big tech are a bunch of censorious neoliberal authoritarians. Very German.
Vast majority of average German folk wouldn’t protest this kind of censorship and controlled demolition of their economy unless they were handed tickets by the government and told where to queue up.
Green Party literally empowers the far right through their milquetoast actively harmful policies and lies over the last 2 years.
"try to address the problem" that's an awfully euphemistic way of saying "deporting and getting rid of people". Because that's the reason such parties get banned - for advocating for illegal things like ethnic cleansing.
European "Democracy" ban the parties you dont like
The Angela Meekel's open border policy could have been one cause of this shift in voter's minds.
Middle eastern & North African conflicts ........
Open borders are great!
without mass immigration, Germany is in a demographic tailspin, and the working age people are too few to hold the roof up. a bind, that.
Replace "could have been" with "has been".
@alexanderclaylavin how about encouraging people to have more kids then.
All Germany had to do was have a sensible immigration policy and the AfG would never have found fertile ground. Apparently however that was to hard.
Same people who wonder why Donald Trump gets elected, why Brexit happens, etc,etc.... they just won't listen and then scratch their heads when this starts occuring.
because they are corrupted by private companies that need immigrant to compete with USA/Cina and lower salaries@@MB-sj2lx
Trump was the first President who took an active approach to combat terrorism, border illegals and children / women trafficking. Then Biden came in literally reversing it. We live in a clown world..
Why is there so much talk about the Far Right? But never discussions about the Far Left?
Probably because no far left party is even close to have 5% of the votes. Thus this becomes a non-issue for the current times.
They call the far right by the name of a political party that is taboo to discuss in Germany, yet tactics they employ are no different….
Because the far-right funds most of the disinformation campaigns globally.
Go deeper. The AFD is a Socially Conservative party but now is economically LEFT. And many especially in the East AFD formerly voted for the „far Left“ Die Linke. And the AFD has shown support for Wagenknecht who is forming a new social conservative economic left party.
What they are really afraid of is a true economic Left Party coalition especially one that is against NATO and pro-Russian.
The terms Left and Right today are now so twisted they have lost all meaning.
Because it is creeping Communism they do not discuss it so that it creeps right up on you
The government will have to fix the issues that lead the far right sentiments to rise in the first place. Far right thinking is a symptom of an underlying problem. It becomes dangerous when that underlying problem isn't fixed or is ignored.
My comment was auto deleted simply for pointing out this banning attempt is a cover for elite failure after joining to hip of USA over Ukraine, losing Germans industrial base to USA, and now those who suffer, the common folk having no alternative will obvious go right wing.
This is elite failure and RUclips censoring this milquetoast statement, bereft of insults, violence, threats, just an opinion proves big tech are a bunch of censorious neoliberal authoritarians. Very German.
Vast majority of average German folk wouldn’t protest this kind of censorship and controlled demolition of their economy unless they were handed tickets by the government and told where to queue up.
Green Party literally empowers the far right through their milquetoast actively harmful policies and lies over the last 2 years.
My comment was auto deleted simply for pointing out this banning attempt is a cover for elite failure after joining to hip of USA over Ukraine, losing Germans industrial base to USA, and now those who suffer, the common folk having no alternative will obvious go right wing.
This is elite failure and RUclips censoring this milquetoast statement, bereft of insults, violence, threats, just an opinion proves big tech are a bunch of censorious neoliberal authoritarians. Very German.
Vast majority of average German folk wouldn’t protest this kind of censorship and controlled demolition of their economy unless they were handed tickets by the government and told where to queue up.
Green Party literally empowers the far right through their milquetoast actively harmful policies and lies over the last 2 years.
Left sheeple with mask 😂😂😂
The main problem is immigration it is no secret that Germans are tired of them.
But parties ignore their concerns and call them racists but unfortunately for them that easily backfires
Governments are run by people… if the government isn’t fixing something and it’s causing people to turn far right it’s because the people in government are deliberately not fixing the problem for this reaction
how can it be right to end a party that is popular with the people, this is not democracy.
indeed
because it is right to end nazism
Banning opposition...wow...
Sure why not?If there would be a Mafia party would you not ban them?
@@brunoheggli2888 because they represent the opinions of 25% of the electorate. Better ban those who want to ban others...
@@brunoheggli2888 If a mafia party was truly an oppressive party to the people, and IF elections were fair, then they wouldn't get too many votes, and by definition, democracy will ensure they don't gain power. No need for any totalitarian banning...
You have such a totalitarian attitude.
@@brunoheggli2888 That is not how Democracies work... One can not just 'cherry pick' and keep only the parties one agrees with and cast out those with different views...
If some voters have a major concern and that concern is ignored by mainstream politicians then theres a risk they’ll go and vote for someone who doesn’t ignore that concern. And we know where that can lead.
That's why Indians voted for right wing nationalist BJP instead of corrupt leftist Congress
Pretty much yeah
Yeah, it’s there fault. So dumb
Except it's not a major concern. It's over hyped,likely by Russia. It's also motivated by racist undertones.
@@stevenhenry5267
The fact that it isn’t a concern to you doesn’t mean it won’t be to someone else. Unfortunately personal thoughts are immaterial in this context.
When the majority is far right then there's no far right
No democratic country in the world has a far right majority. This includes present-day Germany.
There is, luckily, not a far-right majority at all.
I can't be the only one who sees such a move as anti-democratic.
And that is your problem. You believe Democracy actually exists. Newflash: No such thing. Democracy = bribery and corruption.
@alloutofbubblegum7271 A paradox that applies to both the far left and far right
The problem with the so-called democratic is that most people make an assumption of thinking everyone believes it is the same across the Western countries, the reality is each think of themselves individually and end up shouting at each other and at the end it is like a can of worms when opened all gone a different ways to escape the reality
@alloutofbubblegum7271 Who says the AfD is antidemocratic? Can't it just be a xenophobic rightist party and still believe in democracy? By your logic, the Social Democratic Parties of Denmark and Sweden are "anti-democratic"
no, you're not. Greetings from NRW.
Germany should do like Sweden: the “sensible”parties should adopt anti-immigration positions so that the electorate isn’t forced to vote for the “crazy” parties.
But high immigration numbers are very importend!
@@brunoheggli2888 The voting public can decide whether high immigration is desirable or not!
@@williampiel5030We also need more immigrants from Vietnam,east Timor Iran Argentina and Somalia!We could use cruseships to move them here!Maybe have nice german schools already in those countrys!
that’s just bringing far right values into otherwise progressive parties
The expert in the interview in THIS VIDEO said the strategy you're advocating isn't working.
The great beauty of European democracy in full display.
We ban political party who does not obey us.
Would you rather have history repeat itself ?
@@Rmandxb I mean even if you ban it, did you actually solve the issue or just trying to pretend it doesn't exist as long as possible? Someday in the future, you folks will have to face it.
@Rmandxb AFD are not mid century Germans. Only a few member talked about deporting non germencitizens that what quickly rejected by the top party members. So you falling for goverment lies just like the Germans did in the mid century.
Democracy has a place for everyone, except for those who want to use the freedoms it guarantees to destroy it from inside.
"we ban political party"
AI still hasn't replaced Russian trolls
wanting your country and culture to exist 50 year from now is extremist?
Spreading lies like that Germans are displaced by immigrants to instigate fear and hate is extremist.
Wanting to keep your race pure is pretty extreme i would say.
@@froghermit9852The problem is the far left making a mess of government because they don't understand policy responsibility and fiscal accountability. And now they will be countered by the far right. No one is surprised.
@@froghermit9852Nothing wrong whit that
My comment was auto deleted simply for pointing out this banning attempt is a cover for elite failure after joining to hip of USA over Ukraine, losing Germans industrial base to USA, and now those who suffer, the common folk having no alternative will obvious go right wing.
This is elite failure and RUclips censoring this milquetoast statement, bereft of insults, violence, threats, just an opinion proves big tech are a bunch of censorious neoliberal authoritarians. Very German.
Vast majority of average German folk wouldn’t protest this kind of censorship and controlled demolition of their economy unless they were handed tickets by the government and told where to queue up.
Green Party literally empowers the far right through their milquetoast actively harmful policies and lies over the last 2 years.
Who can blame the rise of the far right when the country is not doing well.
To most poor people, when their entitlement is cut….why should immigrants get government entitlements or subsidies.
It is different if the country is doing well.
That is some funky logic there bud---you don't want to share tough times, hardwork and poverty, but you want to share the spoils of hardwork only after you've been looked after by the govt...
Controlling immigration is one thing but voting for a party who goes full goddamn "final solution"
@@overpope3510 Only that the germans for some reason are unwilling to protect their borders. What do you expect the population to do other than to elect people who will enforce a stricter borders policy.
You are right, look at the fiasco that we have here in the USA, open borders. @tonymaccaroni1683
@@tonymaccaroni1683 The Some reason is called the Schengen Agreement, that grants free movement within those countries, that participate. That lifted the life quality across Europe and coursed a lot of prosperity.
Democracy until there is real opposition then democracy goes out the window 😂
Never was a Democracy to begin with. You can't weasel your way into the pockets of politicians and call yourself a Democracy.
Yea like 1924-1933. History only repeats if we let it repeat.
@@delos2279 unfortunately it's already repeating. the left are the ones responsible for tyrannical fascist rhetoric and actions these days. Both THE US and German left govts are fully supporting and funding NATO imperialism and also the Israeli war crimes, genocide and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians..
Do we have to accept a Mafia party too?
@@brunoheggli2888 too late for that. Looks like the people think the ruling party IS THE MAFIA PARTY
If a society votes far right, one should start to talk about the reasons for this choice instead of trying to supress this.
Just stupidity and ignorance are infinite.
I always laugh when the left scramble to very undemocratic means when people stop voting for them 😂
More than 70% are voting left from the AfD.
@@peter_meyer that just shows the paranoia in Germany even though it is still quite left leaning.....
@@ryanv2324 i Always laugh when americans call Europe left.
@peter_meyer i am european, and most european countries are left leaning, but this is fortunately changing
@@hoti47 Oh, so you want to serve under Putin?
Nothing wrong to be patriotic to your country and its citizens. Charity begins at home before you can help your neighbors
Why is the left never referred to as “Far-Left?”
Extremists are.
They're not tankies, far righter
'Cause there is never enough of tolerance and love. You can't go too far with that.
@@eternal_ecstasy_77 Ohhhhh I ♥ that answer 🥰
Never? It is not that long ago that the far left took all the heat in Germany while the far right got away with their shenanigans.
Could the popularity of the AfD be due to failed policies of the current administration? Could the popularity of the AfD be due to their voice which aligns the with the voice and sentiments of the general populace where the current administration has lost touch and connection with the general populace?
💯
My comment was auto deleted simply for pointing out this banning attempt is a cover for elite failure after joining to hip of USA over Ukraine, losing Germans industrial base to USA, and now those who suffer, the common folk having no alternative will obvious go right wing.
This is elite failure and RUclips censoring this milquetoast statement, bereft of insults, violence, threats, just an opinion proves big tech are a bunch of censorious neoliberal authoritarians. Very German.
Vast majority of average German folk wouldn’t protest this kind of censorship and controlled demolition of their economy unless they were handed tickets by the government and told where to queue up.
Green Party literally empowers the far right through their milquetoast actively harmful policies and lies over the last 2 years.
has not thew NSDAP risen because of failed Weimar politics? Have they not build on the depression of the 20s, the Versailles treaty .. and pointed fingers at scapegoats?
While no, the AfD is not the NSDAP .. but it is eerie how there are similarities ( no, not in the party ) but in the arguments that people (like you) bring forth to justify maybe voting for the far-right.
Except immigration, which failed policies? I wonder if AfD would be a thing if the other parties took that issue more seriously. It's still so sensitive that people rather ignore it.
@@anacc3257 If the other parties addressed the issue of immigration seriously and assuage the concerns of the people, then I would think none of the people would support AfD.
@@wetlandweasel Except there wasn't any immigration when the fascists first rose to power.
They made up problems or caused problems and then claimed they would solve them.
The more reasonable immigration policy is to adopt immigrants from Eastern Europe that will relatively quickly integrate. Russia, Ukraine, Moldova, for example would be a good bet.
Yes. It's a disaster here it's Britain, it's hard for a European citizen to move now. Yet no problem at all if you are African or middle eastern it seems. At least Europeans have MUCH more in common with our culture. It's totally upside own.
Sounds like Germany doesn't like democracy...🤔
Perhaps Germany should be asking why so many support the AfG?
they don;t want to discuss that , like infidelity it is a taboo subject , you condemn the actions of others yet a lot are guilty themselves secretively the same with politics
As a U.S. military "brat"......Germany is one of the most beautiful countries. Heidelberg Castle was my Disneyland as a kid . Best wishes to Germany.
That was so predictable. But you reap what you sow.
Whenever a government or ruling majority tries to silence people they don't like, by calling them extremists or far-right (could be the other way around too), I think that's generally more cause to be worried than anything else.
If you consider yourself so much better, then show it by your actions and let people decide for themselves freely, rather than try to forbid and bully those with a different ideology.
Yeah. Democracy means whoever has highest votes, stays in power. Far left "democratic" government came to power and trying to crush the other voices. They believe only far left ideas are correct. Who are they to make that decision? Far left fears, if right comes to power, there won't be any democracy. That's exactly what far left is doing right now, not giving an opportunity to far right to win elections.
Germany is today exactly like the Weimar Republic. We know what happens next.
The AFD is not far right from what I have heard. The AFD appears to be similar to the old CDU before it moved to the left of the political spectrum. In addition, I was recently in Germany and was shocked by the tone and content of the German TV stations. It reminded me of the DDR. What I do detect in Germany is an effort by the 'elite' to ban the AFD as it is becoming too popular and the Ampel is becoming very unpopular. How about Germany cracking down on the extreme left.
Has anyone ever asked why the “far right” is on the rise amongst so many? 😂😂😂 Just kidding of course they haven’t.
Reduction in education and intelligence.
This question is discussed all the time...
@@derdoktor5202 Still the ruling class will not listen. Well then there's no point in complaining if people will elect someone else.
@@tonymaccaroni1683
The AfD is not just "someone else".
It's not the far right you should worry about. It's the far left that people should worry about. Anyone who wants more government control is a problem.
Richtig
The AfD is also a big government political party. You are applying American Conservative political thought to the European context. It doesn't really work well.
From the government's perspective, the rise of AFD is a problem. They are the only dissident party that poses an actual threat to the corrupt regime. Those in control wish for Germany to be an economic zone with no identity and a docile population.
Can to provide an example where less government has been harmful?
Where in the last century did we hear what you're saying right now before?
Remember when everyone left of far right was labled "far left"?
Everyone who wasn't part of the party after 1933 was sent to the camps for being "far left"
I just hope this can serve as a wake-up call to the actual rational, Enlightenment supporting, liberal left.
They don’t exist with the power elite.
My comment was auto deleted simply for pointing out this banning attempt is a cover for elite failure after joining to hip of USA over Ukraine, losing Germans industrial base to USA, and now those who suffer, the common folk having no alternative will obvious go right wing.
This is elite failure and RUclips censoring this milquetoast statement, bereft of insults, violence, threats, just an opinion proves big tech are a bunch of censorious neoliberal authoritarians. Very German.
Vast majority of average German folk wouldn’t protest this kind of censorship and controlled demolition of their economy unless they were handed tickets by the government and told where to queue up.
Green Party literally empowers the far right through their milquetoast actively harmful policies and lies over the last 2 years.
it wont, sorry..
There are no rational liberals
No one who already doesn't agree with the Status Quo is gonna be convinced by some American wannabe protestors marching with picket signs shouting about how they hate the rest of the country and want their party banned.
They’re the ones who have FAILED. Miserably.
Dear DW... if you're going to dub/translate over the voices of those whom you are talking over, please lower the volume of the original speaker, so that we all can best hear the translation. Vielen Dank!
Anger never defeats hate people have forgotten this. It only reaffirms and makes them stubborn with hate to run head first down their path then tread lightly.
Too much talk but they did not focus on what the AfD did wrong.
What is wrong about tightening borders?
Ignoring the fears and problems of the population for decades helped the rise of the extrem right sadly but not surprisingly…
Not at all!Just some spoiled angry frustradet people who dont know how good they have it!
look at the numbers. 10 years ago you were right but their numbers grow and those ppl now have kids and raise them. i moved from Hamburg, where for sure extrem right is a slim minority to the rural south were the amount of far right are quite astonishing (in a bad way).@@brunoheggli2888
If you think Germany is in a bad state, visit the rest of the world. It will be an instructive reality check.
@@no_more_spamplease5121 no i think we all have a quite good life here in Germany! But i want it to stay that way. You might know that we made an awful experience in our nations history with unhinged far right politics? Most of us do not want to repeat that in any shape or form. So it worries me and many other that those political views are a rising factor here in our landscape again.
Same here in Uk ,how can you let unprecedented amounts of Immigration into the Country and hope the peoples views on Immigration dont move to the Right
With all the concerns about Culture,and stress on Local services when govt Budgets dont reflect this. -
My comment was auto deleted simply for pointing out this banning attempt is a cover for elite failure after joining to hip of USA over Ukraine, losing Germans industrial base to USA, and now those who suffer, the common folk having no alternative will obvious go right wing.
This is elite failure and RUclips censoring this milquetoast statement, bereft of insults, violence, threats, just an opinion proves big tech are a bunch of censorious neoliberal authoritarians. Very German.
Vast majority of average German folk wouldn’t protest this kind of censorship and controlled demolition of their economy unless they were handed tickets by the government and told where to queue up.
Green Party literally empowers the far right through their milquetoast actively harmful policies and lies over the last 2 years.
Except the UK literally has one of the worst economies in the West. Their economy was actually much stronger before they got all freaked out about immigration.
You ever think it's weird that the United States economically grows a lot faster, despite having insane bubbles popping all the time?
@@andreszuniga5641here is make war like a man
@@Seth9809economy isnt everything american
Is there such a thing as ‘far left’ in Germany? If so, Ive never seen DW ever use the term. Perhaps far left is normal, and every thing else is far right.
Yes, they use it all the time in their reporting. Nice attempt to deflect away from the issue at hand though.
They have called Die Linke far left. But there is a lot of dishonesty in regards to AFD as most were once Die Linke voters. And they still support Wagenknecht.
In Traditional terms the AFD is a left party, meaning anti-capitalist party, moderate anti-capitalist.
But both Die Linke and AFD are in traditional terms the furtherest left parties. Meaning they are the most anti-capitalist Parties.
@@matthewkopp2391 in traditional terms the AFD is in no way far left
all they had to do is implementing a reasonable immigration policy. but noooo....
people who think that immigration is the problem are the ones that dont know that germany has way more issius. the goverment is throwing thee people hard worked money straight in the garbage. imo the problem is that the people feel kinda left behind cause it looks like they do so much for immigrants compared for their people. i can see that but the problem is still bigger. if u look at how the budgets are used. if the govermant wouldnt use privates planes buys sweets etc we would have enough money for everybody. complaining about immigrants as a german is always kinda weird, because they were selling weapons into countries that had civil wars going on etc. nobody complained about the billions made there. and ofc people will flee a country that is in war.
Agreed, I'm mostly left leaning but I agree that we cannot always just let everyone in all the time, we gotta be careful.
@@minoaxe3681 as sam harris once said: if us liberals don't enforce the border, the fascist will. (paraphrased)
The immigration issue is one major issue. The other issues are much more threatening to the establishment but they don’t broadcast them because many might agree mostly about ending neoliberal economics.
Economically AFD is a Left Party. That is why it is an absurdity to call them right simply because they are socially conservative or anti-Immigration. And I suspect the social conservativism is an exaggeration. They are for example against same sex marriage but for civil unions. That was Obama’s position in 2008.
Easy way to eliminate the competition when you are losing. Why don’t the other parties make an effort to understand the other voters concerns and maybe the right-wingers won’t have that much appeal?
It always hits different when it's from Germany 😂
Dam the pesky voters,voting for things those who know better don’t want
Instead of trying to ban a party that has been rightfully elected within the democratic system, politicians should try and understand why people are voting for them. Banning AfD will not change the mind of the 22% voters who support their ideology. Something is obviously wrong with the path that traditional parties follow when voters apparently want something entirely different. Especially when it comes to emigration policies. People are fed up. And the sooner the governments in Europe realize this the better. Wake up people!
The german constitution, created with the help of the allies back then, allows to ban a party that is against this very constitution.
Not gonna happen, the people know what is best for them and have the right to show it. Despicable that others would try to “thwart” that.
Actually most people are blind to the systemic corruption of global capitalism which causes endless global war and siphons wealth upwards, creating attraction towards these right wing parties after liberals failures and falling in line with USA to detriment to German industrial economy.
Like the Germans in the thirties ? Did they know what was best for them?
@@andreszuniga5641they did 12 years of freedom now ur mixed race children are dancing in gay bar
What about asking why people are voting for them more and more?
Because that would expose them. The AFD in the East is actually a left economic party. They are against neoliberal capitalism. They quote left wing classical writers all the time to explain their Policies.
The AFD in the east voted for Die Linke and then turned to AFD when half of die Linke pushed woke politics.
But AFD voters still like Wagenknecht who is a Marxist.
So the news on this subject is complete absurdity. They are afraid of challenges to neoliberal policies, NATO, and they want to suppress pro-Russian trade alliance for inexpensive resources.
So the problem is a party in opposition and not the bad goverment ?
Massive problems exist in Germany that the ruling class ignores or makes worse, so some people look for an alternative
DW, as the ruling class mouthpiece: Forget all the problems that exist! The alternative is the problem!
Even the news anchor is a foreigner...
Our so called leaders in Europe do not represent its citizens anymore...we are fed up with all the migration while a lot of Europeans have problems too to find a house or just suffer to put food on there tables..
Parties that ignore you for years warn you about the "dangers" of voting a party that listens to your claims.
Correction, a party that uses your ignorance and displeasure to front its own insane ideology.
well said , arrogance and complacency of the left
The elitists in control appear to be getting desperate. It's the same here in the US.
Nailed it 💯
ON CORPORATE CENSORSHIP
My comment was auto deleted simply for pointing out this banning attempt is a cover for elite failure after joining to hip of USA over Ukraine, losing Germans industrial base to USA, and now those who suffer, the common folk having no alternative will obvious go right wing.
This is elite failure and RUclips censoring this milquetoast statement, bereft of insults, violence, threats, just an opinion proves big tech are a bunch of censorious neoliberal authoritarians. Very German.
Vast majority of average German folk wouldn’t protest this kind of censorship and controlled demolition of their economy unless they were handed tickets by the government and told where to queue up.
Green Party literally empowers the far right through their milquetoast actively harmful policies and lies over the last 2 years.
Whats wrong with the elitists?
So is the far right a protector of the poor?
well said lefties all over
They're terrified of patriots gaining power all over the world, and their house of cards falling down!
Odd what happens when you ignore voters for 30 years, huh?
Anchor: How can other parties win back voters worried about immigration?
Guest: Sweep the problem of immigration under the rug by talking about other problems. 😂 That’ll work.
That's not what he said. He said that you should not allow the far right to set the agenda, but set your own agenda, where you are more in control of the narrative and where your political outlook is more reflected. Still you should take care of potential issues, but as he said in a "technocratic" fashion. But of course, he is downplaying the mess Germany's immigration policy is, even from a strongly pro-Migration, pro-Asylum position. The problem is that, if you follow his argument, even if you fixed it you could hardly win back votes from the far right, whose simplistic belief system on the issue might hardly be challenged by real world policy.
Everything is being censored in the comment section. You just HAVE to agree with this.
The elites want chaos ! Facts
This is the elite?
chaos creates more opportunity for more control and oppression.
Decades long continuous middle eastern & North African chaos designed ....,..
Actually, elites usually want order since they want to do business as usual without being bothered.
It's not Björn Höcke. It's Bernd Höcke. That's a common mistake when talking about AfD.
The government should abdicate and make place for the parties that will solve the problems, the government created!
So much energy, if only they would march as much for women abused in cologne by foreigners and simply have a normal immigration policy
If only people wouldn't just hand wave every problem with whataboutism
So much nonsens in so many letters. They could be used to say something thats not dog whistled racisist.
Except when people said foreigners were causing so much abuse in Sweden it was found by multiple studies that the increase in abuse was caused by WIDENING THE DEFINITION OF ABUSE.
@@Talkshowhorse_EchnaIf exposing sex crimes is racist, then what does that make anti-racists? Sexual predators?
@@Talkshowhorse_Echna people like you like to throw racist at everything, until the word means nothing.
I thought there are no mlre germans in germany 🤔
You have to offer a better alternative not shame people for wanting change
So many parties to choose... Does it have to be a radical one?
It's in their DNA
perhaps stop trying to view the AFD and their constituents as a 'problem' to be solved. Perhaps try listening and acting on their concerns.
AfD: Foreigner Foreigner Foreigner...
No clue at all
@@arnodobler1096 really ? I thought they had a more comprehensive political platform.
@@johnhughes2124
Not really, nothing that hasnt been tried and failed before countless times.
@@MB-sj2lx
Better than the previous one, but going too far with capitalism isnt a good idea either, you need a balanced middle road.
It's working for them. The more extreme they are the more popular they become.. Oh Germany 🤣🤣
The AFD has highlighted all the major problems that Germany faces ... including migration ... And have the means to solve those problems ... I dont see a problem with the AFD to be honest .
I like how the guest used the term "technical" in relation to fixing the problem. But I agree, what the left-wing should do is focus on first identifying the problems as seen in the eyes of the German people and then applying practical solutions so that German people not only hear about proposed solutions, but can actually see results on the ground. In most cases this will revolve around what a German person sees as his/her benefits entitlement for being a German citizen vs what he/she sees as benefits lost due to immigrants.
The German Voting population and the people are "Sick" of the Government of telling them what is best for them, with policies that the voters are against. Hence, they want change and try some new policies. Western "Democracy" free and fair elections at work. NO ?
By immigrants you mean ukranians whose country is being bombed next door? Show some compassion
My comment was auto deleted simply for pointing out this banning attempt is a cover for elite failure after joining to hip of USA over Ukraine, losing Germans industrial base to USA, and now those who suffer, the common folk having no alternative will obvious go right wing.
This is elite failure and RUclips censoring this milquetoast statement, bereft of insults, violence, threats, just an opinion proves big tech are a bunch of censorious neoliberal authoritarians. Very German.
Vast majority of average German folk wouldn’t protest this kind of censorship and controlled demolition of their economy unless they were handed tickets by the government and told where to queue up.
Green Party literally empowers the far right through their milquetoast actively harmful policies and lies over the last 2 years.
My comment was auto deleted simply for pointing out this banning attempt is a cover for elite failure after joining to hip of USA over Ukraine, losing Germans industrial base to USA, and now those who suffer, the common folk having no alternative will obvious go right wing.
This is elite failure and RUclips censoring this milquetoast statement, bereft of insults, violence, threats, just an opinion proves big tech are a bunch of censorious neoliberal authoritarians. Very German.
Vast majority of average German folk wouldn’t protest this kind of censorship and controlled demolition of their economy unless they were handed tickets by the government and told where to queue up.
Green Party literally empowers the far right through their milquetoast actively harmful policies and lies over the last 2 years.
@@jeremytine Are those really the immigrants that Germans have issues with? because my understanding it is the ones from completely different cultures that don't want to integrate.
Im not German but i support the AFD
Yes, we’ve seen the ca 1 million NSDAP followers marching in the streets.
You can ban but you can't ban emotions of people. A more further right wing will sprout. What will you do then?
Kind of hypocritical democracy but want to stop AFD? I thought let ALL the people choose...😅
that is contrary to the left mindset , maybe the left are a mild form of communism , there are mps of the labour party in britain that are originally communist
Good ol times are coming back
I doubt it. Germany will not repeat the past. They will be more clever this time.
It seems that the natural, healthy desire to preserve one's national identity in one's ancestral homeland is now deemed "far-right". Likewise if you happen to be a White, male hetrosexual. -- I thought I was a left-leaning liberal but since I am now to be labelled "far-right", that's OK, I can live with that and wear the label with pride.
Hmmm, loving your country makes you a far right? Interesting.
Gee, I wonder why they gain popularity... :v
It is already too late.
Ohhhh how history repeats itself.... good lord here we go again.
I just saw the thumbnail and didn’t know Germans used the middle finger as an expression like us
Tolerating intolerance leaves a country with only intolerance.
There needs to be a universal rule against intolerance. All forms of intolerance need to be equally unacceptable in a liberal democracy.
The issue is, that every belief system taken to an extreme adopts hostile views. Whether they're religious or political. Right-wing extremism can't be dealt with without dealing with left-wing extremism simultaneously. Both extremes give life to the other because they exist in a polarity with each other. So if left-wing extremism and their intolerance for opposing views is accepted, right-wing extremism will always be a natural product of that. We just can't expect democracy to be stable if we allow one form of radicalism and intolerance but not another because that form of top-down engineering isn't itself democratic, it's politically biased.
Banning other political parties leaves a country with backdoor autocracy.
Thought police in action were if disagree with the goverment you are intolerant. Never give the goverment that power because once you realize you mistake it is to late.
@@mikekane2492 And where is left-wing extremism tolerated in Germany? The Communist Party of Germany was banned, The German Communist Party and the Marxist-Lenninist Party of Germany and a whole range of smaller far left organisations are under surveillance. The truth is that right-wingers like you defame the moderate left as far left so you can pretend that you are the only persecuted ones. Which is quite the irony considering how much the far right has been tolerated in Germany.
Statement of convenience. Accountability and fiscal responsibility in government matters.
Bla bla bla far right bla bla bla
Democracy landsliding in Germany !
What I sense it’s not exclusively the immigration topic that makes people angry, but also the perceived de-industrialisation politics mainly due to the extremely high energy prices. Also some of green policies are seen as an intrusion into people’s freedoms.
The far right is BASED!!!
No, it's just bigoted.
*Basic and with no new solutions that havent been tried before
There fixed it.
Good times have created liberal weak men and now we are seeing problems.
Good times create weak men, weak men create hard times.
Yes@@braxxian
Extreme attacks on AfD will not work. Fix problems instead. Try to make AfD less extreme with dialog. They are here to stay and with large numbers of voters.
FAR RIGHT...>FAR RIGHT.....They will never say "Extremist left"
I say, let the people VOTE.
That's how DEMOCRACY works.
Who won the election in 1933?
Did democracy work after 1933?
How does the paradox of tolerance work to counteract a repeated mistake?
If they are proving to be radical 😠 in reality they are not 😠
Germany needs to discover and change the reasons the East part of Germany are drawn to the AFD.
its democracy till things don't align with the incumbents then its shutting down media, labeling, discrediting etc
As many comments pointed out, the goverment still tries to tackle the symptoms and not the root causes of the issues. This inevitably will lead to even more dissatisfaction and rebelious citizens will vote out of spite for AFD.
My comment was auto deleted simply for pointing out this banning attempt is a cover for elite failure after joining to hip of USA over Ukraine, losing Germans industrial base to USA, and now those who suffer, the common folk having no alternative will obvious go right wing.
This is elite failure and RUclips censoring this milquetoast statement, bereft of insults, violence, threats, just an opinion proves big tech are a bunch of censorious neoliberal authoritarians. Very German.
Vast majority of average German folk wouldn’t protest this kind of censorship and controlled demolition of their economy unless they were handed tickets by the government and told where to queue up.
Green Party literally empowers the far right through their milquetoast actively harmful policies and lies over the last 2 years.
My comment was auto deleted simply for pointing out this banning attempt is a cover for elite failure after joining to hip of USA over Ukraine, losing Germans industrial base to USA, and now those who suffer, the common folk having no alternative will obvious go right wing.
This is elite failure and RUclips censoring this milquetoast statement, bereft of insults, violence, threats, just an opinion proves big tech are a bunch of censorious neoliberal authoritarians. Very German.
Vast majority of average German folk wouldn’t protest this kind of censorship and controlled demolition of their economy unless they were handed tickets by the government and told where to queue up.
Green Party literally empowers the far right through their milquetoast actively harmful policies and lies over the last 2 years.
The AFD is only about 20%,so the other 80% have now to do what the AFD wants?No way!
No-one asks why democracy has been deliberately eroded. The political class created this vacuum and then are amazed that it will be filled.
I think that people have not ever felt so unsafe since Covid began. People want security.
*Very interesting, BIGGER in East Germany?*
*The home of Angela?*
Very democratic of you, calling for outright bans of parties
If they are unconstitutional yeah... ban them.
@@soundscape26only Europeans think that makes sense.
@@Eureka2003 Yep, I'm European so that checks out.
So Germany wants more immigrants?
Germany is a puppet state of the US.
Trolls tell you what to be afraid of. Here's one now.
Like most indebted and deindustrialized western countries, importing customers is the only economic stimulus their governments (Oligarchs) have remaining in their policy toolbox...
You should import only hot women from Eastern Europe. Then see how fast the women in Germany decide to close the border.
"Banning the party," Sounds like a GOOD idea. I hope it works.
One finger is for his dad and the other is for himself
"Far-right" was center just 10-20 years ago. It's not the "far-right" that is extreme, it's that the current politics is far-left so everything looks like right from there.
No it wasn't. People changed and think they are still center, even though they changed their whole mindset and ethics.
@@UnholyCamouflage What are they then, according to you? You say they changed.
why should you led the far left to become popular?
Germany should democratically divide into Left and Right Germany and German will live happily forever.
Why stop it