MICKIE GEE omg what I used to do in the sims 3 was go to the grave yard at night and just make friends with ghosts and you know just hang with them and try Figure out how they died and their family. Can’t believe the sims 4 don’t have it though!
I mean the hairstyle they chose for cassandra on the second game is a little bit ridiculous too if you ask me lol. Still, Cassandra is way better in the sims 2
Well it is set in a different universe (and lbr a much more cartoony version of the Sims, gameplay and visual-wise). My personal opinion is that it's a parody world. So where Cassandra was a bit reserved, she's now full-on emo. It's just a parody universe, which I think was (in a major form) created by the aliens that abducted Bella.
Everytime you talk about the sims 4’s timeline I get so sad....they legit don’t care about the amazing stories that were told on the previous games smh alternate universe my arse- they need to do better.
Sorry to break this to you but a majority of people who play sims give a fuck about premade families. I know I don't and a majority of other people also doesn't. I just see no point in playing as them since I can just make my own sims, and premade sims only take the precious space.
Viktor Chmiel Thats a sike on you, because there’s such a thing called accommodation and the company can easily accommodate for the people who invest in franchise sims. It’s not that hard to put thought into premades because not EVERYONE wants to waste their time creating 150 sims to fill the world up. I know I don’t always want to be bothered and that’s the same for a lot of people.
Naeshu J yeah exactly. I enjoy the premades so much because they give us a chance to explore stories and expand on them. I’m making a pleasantview machinima series rn because of how fantastic that mystery is! I love the sims 2 for that! Letting us explore these characters that should have given more attention to in the future games!
Okay, Theory. After Bella went missing, Mortimer married Dina, just how the game intended. Dina wasted all of the familys money, mistreated Alexander and after Mortimers death completely destroyed the familys standing. This made Alexander dedicated to get into the scientist career his family is known for and find a way to go back in time. He succeeds and ends up writing books about his mother in hopes she would read them and won't be abducted this time. Alexander doing this changes the path of time and erases the Sims 2 timeline, which now changes to the Sims 4 timeline in which Bella was never abducted.
@LambyLambya Nguyen I think is because they have new people working there... moreover, the Original Creator, Will Wright doesn't work with Maxis since The Sims 2 :
Girl, you are so well spoken and your videos are so in depth, how do you only have just over 400 subs?! you speak SO clearly that auto generated subtitles understand EVERY SINGLE WORD you say! 😫 that’s amazing please keep doing these! i’m going to tell everyone I know about you!
I love the Addams Family and Munster family references, with the Goths. I was sad that Sims 3 did not give Witch qualities to the Goth family, initially, in the lore. Thank goodness this is fixed with Supernatural and Create-A-Sim. #mods
Happy to find your channel. I love sims lores. It's also worth mentioning that Mortimer associates Bella's abduction as a 'good' memory and not a bad one as it is green, in Sims 2. I always thought there was something more to that.
I generally pair Cassandra up with Darren, Don just ends up alone in my game lol Thank you for the great video! You're a joy to listen to, and as a fan of the sims for years I still learned something new.
I think a lot of us went this way at least once hah Now I'm playing them and got Cassandra married to a townie of her choice (she went to a community lot for that). Eventually, her chosen one's facial features look oddly similar to her brother's (when he grows up into an adult). Yikes.
I've done the same thing. Alexander lives with them after Mortimer dies. He and Dirk readily become the best of friends and Alexander is raised right alongside Dirk and the children Cassandra and Darren have together. It's heartwarming to see Alexander have a happy adolescence as part of a loving family even after the loss of both of his parents.
Wow, as soon as you mentioned about Bella being kidnapped, I immediately thought of the Book in the Sims 3 called "Where's Bella?" I didn't know that the characters in this game had stories :O may have to keep my eyes open while playing
Graveyards always were fun for me in TS3. I played on console with TS3 Pets alot of the time and it was so fun to meet ghosts, especially pet ghosts like Pixel Piper.
I’ve had Don run off on Cassandra , I’ve had Don marry Cassandra . I married Cassandra and Darren . I married Mortimer and Dina , then Don with Nina. Then I made Daniel pleasant marry Katelyn After getting caught cheating by Mary sue . I play sims 2 in so many different ways. Multiple saves multiple outcomes . 😂
i love the sims 4 because they really allow you to be creative with cas and build mode but the lore and gameplay are SEVERELY lacking compared to other games. as someone who's only played sims 4 i would've never known about all this lore if it weren't for videos like this talking about it.
I love how sims 1 , 2 , and 3 had all of these backstories readily available to fall in to soon as you started the game for the first time ; especially 2 . I played sim 2 for yearss. Sims 4 is trash . It can’t be real sim fans working there . It just can’t be .
I was thinking this was too supernatural then I remembered the sims upgrade the toilet by hitting it with a hammer and now I’m not questioning anything ever again
Awesome! Just earlier today I was wondering when you'd next upload. It was cool to learn a bunch about the extended Goth family, I didn't know a lot about the Goth family tree until now. Great vid as always!
Dont understand how you only have 36k subs i thought you had over 3m+ just because of how much time and quality information you put in your videos generally was surprised that such a great creator doesn’t have a lot of recognition
Bella Goth and Don would make beautiful children. Also, Cassandda and Don. I know that it's not right that they marry, but sometimes I enjoyed playing Cass and Don as much as moving Dina in with Mortimer. (rather than moving Mortimer and Alex in with Dina like the game sets up)
I was playing Sims 2 last night, and all of this happened. I threw a wedding party for Don Lothario and Cassandra Goth. I invited The Caliente sisters, Mary-Sue Pleasant, Kaylynn Langerak, Darren Dreamer, Mary Mayola, and Daniel Mayola (the last two are Sims I made and Daniel is a child lol). I had Cassandra and Don kiss because I knew the other ladies would get mad at Don. Well, one of the Calientes slapped Don. Then, apparently Cassandra saw Darren and fell in love with him. Somehow, Don figured that out, and the game says that Cassandra cheated on Don with Darren, was caught by Don, lost Don as a best friend, fell in love with Darren, and had two loves at once. Then, Don, despite HIS OWN situation, had THE NERVE to slap Cassandra for this. They became enemies. Then, I decided that since Cassandra and Darren were in love and this was a wedding party, we were going to have a wedding, so Darren and Cassandra got married. Darren’s son moved in. Don and Darren got in a fight, but Darren lost and they became enemies. I did not expect all of this to happen, but I saved my game after this.
I hate the fact that in the sims 4 they changed the colour skin of the most important and recognizable sims I mean, Cassandra white?! The Caliente sisters white???!!!
@@KanadzuMirikoo46 she could have just lost some of the tan, I also get tan really easily and when I went to Italy for a week my skin was as dark as Cassandra's in Sims 2, but when I was back home and it was winter and I spent most of my time inside my skin was as light as Cassandra's in Sims 4
The goths were always suppose to be white. Bella is Italian/greek so her skin would be on the tanner side but EA couldn't convey that before because there were 4 skin tones in the sims 2
When I first loaded the goth household, I could never make Don leave Cassandra for some reason. I had to drag their relationship all the way down with cheats to get him to leave her at the altar like I wanted
woah same goes for me well my game don only leaves cass when i play the goth family first but if i play the lothario household before the goths don wont leave cassie at the altar which is kinda annoying...
@@darchelmacaroyo184 yeah it's because if you play don first, his lifetime relationship with cassandra rises enough overnight. If you play cassandra first, it doesn't get the chance. Their relationship is like right on the edge lol
In my play throughs I always play Alexander as gay. It just seems like that’s how it should be, I don’t know. Even when I played with Mortimer and Bella in the Sims 3, and Alexander was born as a female, I still had them pursue same sex relationships.
I never allow Dina to marry Mortimer in the sims 2... instead, I have Cassandra catch Don cheating with Dina and she dumps him and Mortimer breaks up with Dina too.
1:49 what you you mean the first time living with humans were they not humans when they were still alive? wait a second- *THEORY TIME THEORY TIME THEORY TIME*
i cant believe they took out the cemetery in 4? like wtf
MICKIE GEE they didn’t have ghosts when the game first came out :(
The first mod I downloaded was the graveyard mod. WHAT IS WRONG WITH EA?!
The fact that they have a pet cemetery and not a sims cemetery
MICKIE GEE omg what I used to do in the sims 3 was go to the grave yard at night and just make friends with ghosts and you know just hang with them and try Figure out how they died and their family. Can’t believe the sims 4 don’t have it though!
Because sims 4 is catered more to kids, that would scare them so they were removed along with burglars.
The sims 4 made Cassandra look like the stereotypical emo teenager with music band dreams, were Cassandra was a genius and sweet bookworm
Cassandra had fake fangs in the Sims 2.
@@sleekoduck vampire queen! as she should
I mean the hairstyle they chose for cassandra on the second game is a little bit ridiculous too if you ask me lol. Still, Cassandra is way better in the sims 2
Well it is set in a different universe (and lbr a much more cartoony version of the Sims, gameplay and visual-wise). My personal opinion is that it's a parody world. So where Cassandra was a bit reserved, she's now full-on emo. It's just a parody universe, which I think was (in a major form) created by the aliens that abducted Bella.
Everytime you talk about the sims 4’s timeline I get so sad....they legit don’t care about the amazing stories that were told on the previous games smh alternate universe my arse- they need to do better.
Yeah they pretty much just used the opportunity to cash in on these iconic characters instead of doing anything interesting with them :/
That’s EA for you, Maxis deserves more creative control, they’re the ones who gave the series so much soul in the first place.
Sorry to break this to you but a majority of people who play sims give a fuck about premade families. I know I don't and a majority of other people also doesn't. I just see no point in playing as them since I can just make my own sims, and premade sims only take the precious space.
Viktor Chmiel Thats a sike on you, because there’s such a thing called accommodation and the company can easily accommodate for the people who invest in franchise sims. It’s not that hard to put thought into premades because not EVERYONE wants to waste their time creating 150 sims to fill the world up. I know I don’t always want to be bothered and that’s the same for a lot of people.
Naeshu J yeah exactly. I enjoy the premades so much because they give us a chance to explore stories and expand on them. I’m making a pleasantview machinima series rn because of how fantastic that mystery is! I love the sims 2 for that! Letting us explore these characters that should have given more attention to in the future games!
The thing with Bella dropping off Alexander at college is really creepy.
Considering that she is supposed to be missing but is still coded in, maaaaaybe we can pretend that alexander is just imagining her dropping him off.
Oh yeah, this happened to me once and i went into complete freak out lmfao
@@jerichohazel9610 that's so depressing
😂 I remember thst
If you're looking for a soap opera type solution to that plothole, maybe Cassandra dropped him off and he accidently called her mom 😂
Okay, Theory.
After Bella went missing, Mortimer married Dina, just how the game intended. Dina wasted all of the familys money, mistreated Alexander and after Mortimers death completely destroyed the familys standing. This made Alexander dedicated to get into the scientist career his family is known for and find a way to go back in time. He succeeds and ends up writing books about his mother in hopes she would read them and won't be abducted this time. Alexander doing this changes the path of time and erases the Sims 2 timeline, which now changes to the Sims 4 timeline in which Bella was never abducted.
you've put more thought into this than the sims team has haha. i love this theory!!!
Ok wow i love this
That's actually a good theory
even in sims bustin out, the goth family had a graveyard ... it always scared me as a kid :-((
Love it! I wish they made the Goth family a bit more spooky in Sims 4 :/
LambyLambya Nguyen me too then just claimed it was because it’s a different timeline but it’s just an empty base :/
@LambyLambya Nguyen I think is because they have new people working there... moreover, the Original Creator, Will Wright doesn't work with Maxis since The Sims 2 :
I've always considered the Goth family being The Sims version of the Addams family
Yes. Hahaha. They are so in sims 1 and 2. And the witchcraft and the graveyards. And the design of their house and their wealthy background
Same
Cassandra is my favorite sim tbh
Girl, you are so well spoken and your videos are so in depth, how do you only have just over 400 subs?! you speak SO clearly that auto generated subtitles understand EVERY SINGLE WORD you say! 😫 that’s amazing
please keep doing these! i’m going to tell everyone I know about you!
Thank you so much! 😊 💞
I love the Addams Family and Munster family references, with the Goths. I was sad that Sims 3 did not give Witch qualities to the Goth family, initially, in the lore. Thank goodness this is fixed with Supernatural and Create-A-Sim. #mods
Happy to find your channel. I love sims lores. It's also worth mentioning that Mortimer associates Bella's abduction as a 'good' memory and not a bad one as it is green, in Sims 2. I always thought there was something more to that.
I used to be so bothered by that!
Well, that's a memory all knowledge sims get anyway. It's always green for them. Imho it has nothing to do with the plot.
There’s a theory Plumbella brought to my attention recently, that says Bella and Mortimer we’re separated. Could be why he saw it as a good thing?
4:15 it staring into my soul
OMG I almost flew off my bed when I saw it
I generally pair Cassandra up with Darren, Don just ends up alone in my game lol
Thank you for the great video! You're a joy to listen to, and as a fan of the sims for years I still learned something new.
I think a lot of us went this way at least once hah
Now I'm playing them and got Cassandra married to a townie of her choice (she went to a community lot for that). Eventually, her chosen one's facial features look oddly similar to her brother's (when he grows up into an adult). Yikes.
I've done the same thing. Alexander lives with them after Mortimer dies. He and Dirk readily become the best of friends and Alexander is raised right alongside Dirk and the children Cassandra and Darren have together. It's heartwarming to see Alexander have a happy adolescence as part of a loving family even after the loss of both of his parents.
Wow, as soon as you mentioned about Bella being kidnapped, I immediately thought of the Book in the Sims 3 called "Where's Bella?"
I didn't know that the characters in this game had stories :O may have to keep my eyes open while playing
they all have interesting storylines specially in the sims 2/3
Weirder still, the author of “Where’s Bella?” is Alexander Goth
Graveyards always were fun for me in TS3. I played on console with TS3 Pets alot of the time and it was so fun to meet ghosts, especially pet ghosts like Pixel Piper.
I’ve had Don run off on Cassandra , I’ve had Don marry Cassandra . I married Cassandra and Darren . I married Mortimer and Dina , then Don with Nina. Then I made Daniel pleasant marry Katelyn After getting caught cheating by Mary sue . I play sims 2 in so many different ways. Multiple saves multiple outcomes . 😂
i love the sims 4 because they really allow you to be creative with cas and build mode but the lore and gameplay are SEVERELY lacking compared to other games. as someone who's only played sims 4 i would've never known about all this lore if it weren't for videos like this talking about it.
I love how sims 1 , 2 , and 3 had all of these backstories readily available to fall in to soon as you started the game for the first time ; especially 2 . I played sim 2 for yearss. Sims 4 is trash . It can’t be real sim fans working there . It just can’t be .
1:48 that ghosts blue and purple color scheme though 😂
I was thinking this was too supernatural then I remembered the sims upgrade the toilet by hitting it with a hammer and now I’m not questioning anything ever again
Awesome! Just earlier today I was wondering when you'd next upload. It was cool to learn a bunch about the extended Goth family, I didn't know a lot about the Goth family tree until now. Great vid as always!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it! 😊 My job has been crazy busy these past few weeks so that's why I'm uploading so sporadically!
That's completely understandable! Work schedules can definitely be a pain sometimes. Always worth the wait for a new vid!
I'm not secure about it, but I think that there's another book in the Sims 3 called "Where is Bella?" and it's also written by Alexander Goth
Dont understand how you only have 36k subs i thought you had over 3m+ just because of how much time and quality information you put in your videos generally was surprised that such a great creator doesn’t have a lot of recognition
Thank you so much, that means so much to me. Thank you for your support 💕
The Specters is the creepiest in my opinion.
Bella Goth and Don would make beautiful children. Also, Cassandda and Don. I know that it's not right that they marry, but sometimes I enjoyed playing Cass and Don as much as moving Dina in with Mortimer. (rather than moving Mortimer and Alex in with Dina like the game sets up)
Do you think Cassandra could be Don's daughter?
tbh i’m sure sims 4 would’ve had a graveyard but they had no ghosts when the game released
I was playing Sims 2 last night, and all of this happened. I threw a wedding party for Don Lothario and Cassandra Goth. I invited The Caliente sisters, Mary-Sue Pleasant, Kaylynn Langerak, Darren Dreamer, Mary Mayola, and Daniel Mayola (the last two are Sims I made and Daniel is a child lol). I had Cassandra and Don kiss because I knew the other ladies would get mad at Don. Well, one of the Calientes slapped Don. Then, apparently Cassandra saw Darren and fell in love with him. Somehow, Don figured that out, and the game says that Cassandra cheated on Don with Darren, was caught by Don, lost Don as a best friend, fell in love with Darren, and had two loves at once. Then, Don, despite HIS OWN situation, had THE NERVE to slap Cassandra for this. They became enemies. Then, I decided that since Cassandra and Darren were in love and this was a wedding party, we were going to have a wedding, so Darren and Cassandra got married. Darren’s son moved in. Don and Darren got in a fight, but Darren lost and they became enemies. I did not expect all of this to happen, but I saved my game after this.
I love these lore videos. ❤❤
I hate the fact that in the sims 4 they changed the colour skin of the most important and recognizable sims
I mean, Cassandra white?! The Caliente sisters white???!!!
Cassandra isn't black, she just gets tan really easily, because her mom(Bella) is south european
Maxinar Dae but she is not close to white
@@KanadzuMirikoo46 she could have just lost some of the tan, I also get tan really easily and when I went to Italy for a week my skin was as dark as Cassandra's in Sims 2, but when I was back home and it was winter and I spent most of my time inside my skin was as light as Cassandra's in Sims 4
They always was white and tanned/half-south european
The goths were always suppose to be white. Bella is Italian/greek so her skin would be on the tanner side but EA couldn't convey that before because there were 4 skin tones in the sims 2
I am so happy I’ve discovered your channel! :D
When I first loaded the goth household, I could never make Don leave Cassandra for some reason. I had to drag their relationship all the way down with cheats to get him to leave her at the altar like I wanted
woah same goes for me well my game don only leaves cass when i play the goth family first but if i play the lothario household before the goths don wont leave cassie at the altar which is kinda annoying...
@@darchelmacaroyo184 yeah it's because if you play don first, his lifetime relationship with cassandra rises enough overnight. If you play cassandra first, it doesn't get the chance. Their relationship is like right on the edge lol
You are literally amazing!! Great work
Cassandra also has fangs.
In the sims 3 there is also one woman that is related to Goth family. In the Sunset Valley she leaves alone. You could add her too
In my play throughs I always play Alexander as gay. It just seems like that’s how it should be, I don’t know. Even when I played with Mortimer and Bella in the Sims 3, and Alexander was born as a female, I still had them pursue same sex relationships.
3:55 there was also a book called 'Where's Bella' by I.M Wright
I dunno, to me, Alexander reminds me of Harry Potter. There's a very strong resemblance
Im rebuilding my entire sims 4 now. I need lore!
Yay 1k!! (I'm back this morning too haha)
Yaaaay! Thank you ❤️
I wish a game where we can actually solve this mysteries. I was always frustrated about it! I want to fix the game play like for real!
Yay!!! Waiting for the new content 😍😍😍
Your amazing for tell theory
I didnt understand the concept of this family until i watched Addam's family.
They're based on it!?
Cassandra’s hair is so goofy😭😭😭
ive been trying to figure out who Helen Hall looks like. AND I KNOW WHO SHE LOOKS LIKE SHE LOOKS LIKE VIVIAN FROM SIMS 4
Maybe there is another as of yet unknown relative of Mortimer Goth whose name is also Alexander who wrote those books.
I never allow Dina to marry Mortimer in the sims 2... instead, I have Cassandra catch Don cheating with Dina and she dumps him and Mortimer breaks up with Dina too.
why they even made sim 4 if had nothing to do with nothing
Alisha Hudson money
1:49
what you you mean the first time living with humans
were they not humans when they were still alive? wait a second-
*THEORY TIME THEORY TIME THEORY TIME*
Mary Sue Pleasant? That’s a little on the nose, sims devs
The goths got white washed...
i just noticed the different skin colours...
Drew Haynes FR. They were brown as hell in sims 1 😂
They were tanned. Clearly still white people.🙄
Rhaenyra Targaryen Bella is very clearly Latina. I think it’s pretty obvious that her looks are inspired by the “spicy sexy Latina” trope.
@@Schwagfull Eh, her mother is Greek and her father is clearly central/western European. Nothing 'Latina' about her. Nor is it a race.
wait, how do we access that doll? I have that expansion but I dont know where it is??
Wait sims 4 has bella in it
Dear god the sims 3 sims for the DS are horrifying
I made Mary Sue and Cassandra date in the Sims 2
you forgot lolita goth......... yes, i saw chrliysims (idk how to spell) video
Where is part one?
Link is in bio 😛 here it is: ruclips.net/video/E9P3PvgtYE0/видео.html
I'm confused... 😰
Intresting is, the Goth Family doesnt life in Midnight Hollow 😂 and they are very friendly