I'm not upset. This series is awesome. I'm just starting episode 6 and it's been great. Episodes 1 and 2 were epic. It's been pretty faithful to the cartoon. Obviously they can't be 100% faithfull as somethings just don't translate well but all in all its been great. I've got my Avatar Last airbender Complete series blueray ready to watch again after i finish the netflix
I agree with most of what you said except the part about "diversity" "Asia" isn't just East Asia. Water Tribe culture was based on the Inuits....but they're not real Inuits. They had brown skin and blue eyes. Which is not like any real life ethnicity. If we say the Water Tribe are Inuits, we might as well say the Fremen in the fantasy world of Dune are Bedouin Arabs. Which they're obviously not according to the description of the characters.
It's not that bad, more like 6.5-7.5 maximum. For me, it would be better if they went for a shot to shot remake. They made their own changes and at the same time they didn't know enough about the lore for me and what's important not to miss in it... Some changes worked and some didn't. At this rate, they will definitely make some change in those 3 seasons that will be over the line, which will piss off a lot of people. Even now there have been a few such changes, but for now I can be more benevolent and give them a chance to fix the mistakes in season 2, although I don't think they will fix everything. I don't believe they will make a change in the number of episodes. It would need at least 12-15 episodes per season even if with a smaller budget per episode and not skip things and not have such a fast pace.
Aang goofing off and being fun is very important because it reminds the audience that he is a CHILD and this burden is on a child. So he can’t be expected to deal with everything as well as an adult would.
There was that scene in episode 1 where Aang was monologuing about knowing "who he is and that he likes to play airball and goofing off with his friends". Instead of letting Aang tell us that, why not show it at all???? Then it would drive home the point that Aang is still a kid and not ready for the responsibilities the role of being an Avatar brings. I hate Netflix.
@@Too2Cold It's not necessarily the acting, it's mostly the direction. A good director will make an actor look good even if they are not very good at acting
@@LuisSierra42 no that is a full blown lie. The director can make the direction but what’s direction without actually acting through it. That’s like saying I wish I had a million dollars but I don’t want to do anything to get it.
My issue is Azula. She was cold and ruthless and fearless in the original, but the live action makes her insecure, jealous, and immature, and the actress doesn't look the part or portray her well.
In my opinion, It's moreso she _was_ insecure and jealous, but that was hidden under a monolith of cold controlling facade. We see it break down and revealing those inner insecurities in the end when she went insane from paranoia. That's the problem of the show, it doesn't respect its audiene to be able to piece things together, it HAS to tell/show them...more often tell. And even with it fails every other time.
She looked fine. She's only 14 after all and in the animated series she looked 16 or even older. Everything else I agree with. Azula was confident and cruel, just like Ozai. Her insecurities in book 3 stem from her demeanor failing and her friends turning against her. Ozai doesn't play with her, he brainwashed her since she was born.
@@powerpuff_avenger I think the issues with Azula in the live action is her trying to win her father's approval and being emotional. Azula in the animated struggled as she was emotionless and cold shown on Ember Island. She also wasn't trying hard to win her father's approval because she already had it, Ozai loved Azula from birth she was the embodiment of perfection. Also, they are missing how she came off as in complete control of every situation she walked into (before her breakdown at least). She just doesn’t have that intimidation factor at all.
@@Halalrock oh I’d be so upset that the ORIGINAL CREATORS, changed stuff in there own show. That also be one less problem, among the plenty of other problems in this glorified cosplay show. Kim says. "That was a conscious decision to show people this is not the animated series." Go slice some cheese with that whine consumer goblins lmao
It’s like a typical Netflix show where they change everything to appeal to an audience that doesn’t exist and give middle finger to already existing audience who was very excited for it .
If you're going in expecting everything to be exactly like the cartoon, you're already setting it yourself to be a disappointment. I actually liked it being an avatar fan. Things that no one has said is how they gave subtle nods Iroh's way of keeping things casual without answer questions. For example, how in the neflix version he told Zuko that solders must of missed him during music night. It was like how the cartoon Iroh stopped zhao from getting a cheap shot at zuko. He said zuko was more honorable than him and said thanks for the jasmine tea that it was delicious. Zuko ask if he really meant it. And Iroh said, of course. Jasmine tea is his favorite. Both started with Agni Kai (oazi, zhao), zuko refuse to finish his opponent, uncle not really answering the question, zuko gaining a sense of honor( respect from solders, not tarnish his victory)
Hate what they did to Bumi. Also why is it a trend in the new show for adults to dunk down on a 12 years old for not being there for a 100 years? Seems like a very counterproductive way to motivate a child to save the world.
I hated the way Aang discovered who Bumi was as well. Also, Bumi's and Kyoshi's anger towards Aang for running away is made even weirder by the fact that Aang apparently *didn't* run away like he did in the original. He basically just took a ride on Appa with the intention of coming back, but ultimately wasn't able to due to the storm. So technically, it wasn't really HIS fault by there own logic. Netflix wanted to make Aang more likeable by removing any character flaws (like they did with Sokka) yet they doubled down on making him less likeable. I totally sympathized with 12-yr-old Aang in the original, but this adaptation made him less human.
Tbf,when i was i kid that was one of the things i didn't like about the show that hardly anyone asked Aang why was missing for 100 years. That is one of the negatives that of being an avatar that ATLA hardly touched upon but was very apparent in the LOK
@@jimmyliuwho He almost seemed like a villain almost. His mad genius didn't seem genuine. First he throws Aang a feast, then proceeds to throw a hissy fit. Also, the clothing he wears didn't reflect his crazy side, it seemed too polished.
@@powerpuff_avengerThat’s the point, this version was exploring a more cynical and jaded path Bumj could have and arguably more likely would have taken. After all he has dealt with a war with the Fire Nation for a century. It wasn’t done well, necessarily, but I got what was being communicated.
While you were talking about Katara I think you missed that she didn’t train at all! Pakku never trained her, they just suddenly and randomly called her master Katara and she suddenly new waterbending out of nowhere. It defeats the point of the show in that Aang who has his past lives can also just know the other elements without training as well. No need for toph and zuko in the future.
Yeah. She doesn't fight him for the right to be trained by a master, she fights him to fight in the battle, it was silly. She has a literal line that she's her own master who only trained herself. Crazy
She learns the key to bending from Aang, and then learns fast. It's implied they have adventures off screen and Katara made up a water bending move from seeing an earth bender do it. I think Aang said that's a sign of a master(?) so maybe it's that she was learning a lot on the way up there but doubted her own abilities. She didn't know how good she was. And I mean in the original show how many days did she train to become a master, when she was already good? I think it was condensed for time but her learning it a little bit faster because she learned from Aang makes it make sense.
@@cutecats532 stop the cap. Her (one sentence) "learning" from Aang should only translate so far to her waterbending, even considering Aang is only strictly an Airbender, man didn't bend a single molecule of water. Her drive to be a good bender doesn't exist, her drive to want to learn from a waterbending master doesn't exist. Period.
@@cutecats532 I understand that they had time constraints which is why I think a training montage would have been a better suited alternative to "Oooh look, I'm a master now!" I think the entire first season showed adults in a poor light as if they are overbearing, unhelpful, toxic and unrealistic. There's little to no respect for experience, knowledge and guidance in adults (except Iroh) because of how the adult characters were written. I saw it in the past Avatars and the leadership of the various groups. When the Chief and Master Pakku simply turned away from Aang and said "he can't help us" I was flabbergasted. So, being fair to time constraints, they probably would have been better off showing us condensations of the original story that makes sense long term rather than slapping 'adults bad, own way good' on the series... I'm concerned about where the order of the White Lotus is even going to come from.
@@alexandrorocca7142 and it was flagrant. And that was for a 24 y.o playing a 17 y.o. Here it would be a 40y.o playing a 14 y.o Not the same gap to cross 😅
Uncle Iroh not being his carefree and joyful self in the beginning takes away the impact of finding out he was powerful warlord. To know he became such a caring and gentle man after decades of being a feared warrior is powerful. Also seeing everyone respects him and don't get me started with the arc where he's trapped in prison. It proves that he is really that dude. The show watered everyone's character down
Ofcourse they watered every one’s characters down, they had to put like 25 episodes in 8. They were always gonna leave out a lot of character building and focus more on plot. Understandable
It just felt SO RUSHED. I don’t have time to even process any emotions they’re trying to hit. The animated series is filled with so many wise teachings too! But it’s so rushed in the netflix series that, even if they had a few lines that are wise……. I CAN’T HAVE A FEW SECONDS TO LET THAT SINK IN. UGHHHHHHH
The fact that they left to go to the north to learn water bending from the masters and now they're leaving without Aang learning to bend water when the first season is about the water element
I went in with an open mindset. I can forgive the costumes, I can forgive the less-than ideal actor/actress choices that didnt feel right, I can forgive the story changes, I can forgive the world-lore changes (like airbending flying), I can forgive the few 3d effects that were bad. For me what made the original show soo good was rich, but subtle world building; character development; intricate and reasonable plotlines, deeper themes; and the ability to blend humor with profound emotion and action. With an honest open mind, I don't see the show delivering on any of these points. from soul-less world building, to exposition dumps, to complete disregard for the themes that setup key moments in the plot... so far this is a big miss for me. Imagine if this money was instead put into delivering us another animated series with the backing of the original creators. sigh
Exactly they took a nice crisp fizzy refreshment and made it flat. Still better than he movie tho. Why won't the producers learn.. IF IT AINT BROKE DON'T FIX IT.
Two misses in my opinion was not having an agni-ki between Zuko and Zhao towards the beginning which really set the tone between the two and just how strong Zuko was and their hatred for each other. The other was not having the Jeong Jeong experience on fire bending, I feel this was a big miss not only on his path of learning the elements but also why Aang is so hesitant to learn fire bending down the road. My biggest dislikes were vindictive, angry Bumi, Zuko & Zhao working together and thus far pretty much everything about Azula.
For me the way they did the cave of the two lovers mean they got the legend of it how the tunnel were made but having sokka and katara didn’t make any sense but I was focusing more on the bending more specifically earth and fire bending
@@UncleTom854-bm5lvwhile I do agree that there is problems hope we realize it’s an adaptation not a remake and the original creators were going to change things too.
They made the mistake of thinking that adult oriented means grim, rather than intelligent. This ironically ends up painting a less emotionally heavy picture as when the goofy friendly kid is replaced with a focused and driven one you lose all the weight of him being genuinely conflicted about whether he can really hold on to those lighthearted values when the chips are down.
But still keep the bending-taking, IMO (w/ different source ofc), IMO. Aang defeating Ozai w/o killing him is very important climax for thim as Air monk and him killing Ozai means he failed as one.
I dont think you even need to remove anything or change any plot/character elements, just make it so death actually occurs in the show (which they did). The original never actually showed anyone lose their life. Just show it this time around and shit just got way more serious with nothing else being changed.
I hate that they basically removed Katara's personality. She's mostly just a blank slate in the live-action show. Her energy, passion, and rage are all practically gone. And it's even weirder that they gave Sokka some of Katara's personality traits like the scene when he tells Katara to grow up? Animated Katara basically raised that man, she's the more mature one. I also didn't like that the crew don't get to spend much time together, in all the middle episodes they are split up so they don't get a lot of time to develop as a team so it's hard to care about them as a team. *ALSO Azula was not Azulaing*
Something that I will never understand is why they decided to change Aang’s decision for running away with “temporarily going to clear his head”. Running away when things get hard is one of the most important aspects of Aang's character arc. He's the guy who avoids and evades. Refuses to face things head on. Retreats into denial when the genocide of his people is fairly obvious. Spends large quantities of the show doing ridiculous nonsense because he can't face the reality of how important his mission is. The Storm sets that flaw as his origin story, and it has ripples throughout the entirety of the show. God-forbid we make him cowardly and flawed, since people don’t like character flaws nowadays! Because growing and improving is something we do not have patience for.
The original cartoon had tons of moments where they simply showed you the characters so that you could feel alongside them. There wasn't a need for verbal explanation or expository dialogue. Confident fictions treat there audiences with the assumption of intelligence and trust you to feel on your own
@@yomamma.ismydaddy216 They're speed running the show... They're merging a lot of things together to give a deeper and more depth experience for the audience. This isn't retailing the cartoon, because the cartoon is great and never needed to change, but an adaptation
Nobody who understands filming is hating on the actors. It's the directing that made the child actors read cringy scripts with no letting up on their emotions and only speaking in one liners with cheap camera work.
you are right. But I think it has to do with the fact that most people haven't seen them acting good in another project. Too sad you get the first impression out of a bad direction. Or they could also be just inexperienced. I mean, the ones who gave the best performances (Ozai/Zhao) where the most seasoned actors.
Completely agree on the frustration of not seeing neither of them train in water bending. I'm like 'This is a show (in part) about training up your martial art to win a war! Where's the TRAINING!?'
Azula is a psycho. This actress isn't giving. Zuko on the other hand was perfect. Yeah, he's missing a bit of edge but he has so much emotion that it works. Also, we got way too much Azula & the Fire Lord in Season 1. Like one maybe two scenes would have been plenty. Honestly my major issue with the show is the writing/story missed the entire point of what is important and made the animated series so good. Season 1 should have been more playful with Aang slowly realizing the gravity of his situation and what it means to be the Avatar in a world at war. King Bumi was written terribly. He's supposed to be a wise member of the Order of the White Lotus and forever youthful "Mad-Genius". Not the way they portrayed him in the Netflix series at all. Why was Aang the one teaching him lessons?! They didn't bring the spirit of the original to this one at all. AND I REALLY WANTED TO LOVE THIS because I like the cast and the visuals are so beautiful. Hopefully Season 2 will get it together (story/writing wise). Adults: They should have done what Harry Potter movies did, age with the audience. The first season should have been more fun. The second should be lessons learned with our Queen Toph. The third and final season can be much darker and mature. Like with the show. And IRL the actors will age so it makes sense to age the content with the actors over time.
yeah like him neglecting to learn waterbending would have been good if it could be attributed to him being more playful but it wasnt even so it was both overlooked and dumb.
My feeling is that a lot of the small unnecessary changes undermine the pacing & themes. Everyone goes around saying their innermost motivations, which hampers the unpeeling of these things; ends up feeling like Ember Island Players' read on the events
Thank you for pointing out what bothered me the most - their lack of friendship. That’s what made the original so special. They supported each other through the good and bad.
Just shut up and enjoy. The show is very well done they put a lot of work all these people criticizing the show, work at Walmart. Don’t even have a career on nothing, and yet they talk about the show, like they were experts in casting, and put in a show together….
It just feels like across the board, everyone behind the show didn’t have an in depth understanding of the original. A prime example of that is Zuko as in the live action show, Zuko is focused on getting his throne back. Now, you might say that’s faithful to the original but the key difference is that while yes, Zuko wanted his throne back in the original, he was far more concerned with getting the love of his father and his honor back. Zuko only ever mentions getting his throne back like once or twice in the original, yet it is the main focus of his character in the remake. Having Zuko be more focused on the throne makes his character weaker because it seems like he’s more concerned with his inheritance rather than his own personal atonement, which was a far more engaging motivation for him. Now, it’s sorta understandable that the writers might make the mistake of having Zuko be more focused on his throne, but only if they don’t have an in depth understanding of the original. Make no mistake either, this misunderstanding of the original applies to pretty much every other character along with them clearly misunderstanding the events of the original story and the lore.
Perhaps characters don't always understand their own motivations, just like people in real life. Zuko may have been outwardly focused on regaining his throne, but his subconscious motivation was really to earn his father's love -- he just didn't allow himself to be aware of it. Perhaps then, in a future episode he will have an epiphany moment where he finally begins to understand himself. That would be good writing.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking this, from the original it was easy to tell Zuko was less concerned about actually being fire lord, but just wanted to be welcomed back into his homeland and family. The heavy focus on live Zuko wanting his throne instead of his Honor™️ back was a little jarring. It would be interesting to see how they address that without messing up the redemption arc lol
@@drea4195 M8 please. You're just doing mental gymnastics. In the real show what Zuko really wants is his father's love but interprets and masks it as his "honor" most of the time. This cosplay bootleg changing it to "throne" is absolutely not smart and deep. It's counterproductive. Besides with how much it has hated any subtlety so far it doesn't give any faith that it's going to be what you're making up for defense.
Yeah they totally missed zuko. Zuko is all about honor. Not entitlement about a throne. It shows when he fights with zhao, then during the storm, then when he goes after his uncle and finally when he tries to save Zhao from the water spirit... But they missed all characterisation. Aang didn t flee his responsabilities and doesn t have to deal with guilt. Sokka isn t stuck in his beliefs and challenged in his world views. Katara isn t the sole waterbender of the south, starving to find some teacher or any knowledge. Nor a fiery girl. Now she is just a meek girl who becomes a master with a couple old scroll from her grandma😅
Honor missing yea, but I was fortunate enough to watch an interview with the actor for Ozai before I saw much of his character with his kids and he said Ozai is a parent trying to prepare his kids for the world, but like most parents is failing and messing them up. It makes his character more interesting than just hating Zuko for being worse than his sister. He really believes he's doing the right thing and teaching his son about respect by banishing him, even if it's cruel and wrong.
Also in spirit episode Aang casually flies to the fire nation Roku temple. Meanwhile in anime Roku’s dragon takes Aang there in the spirit form. And later we discover how hard it is to get to the Roku temple in physical form guarded by the fire nation.
Not to speak of the inhuman exhaustion a non-stop flight there would represent. But everything is magic in this version. No respect for the orginal world building at all.
At this point i just accept that it is a whole other story and they are just other characters. Less interesting, sure. But that way they won t spit at the face of the originals.
Its even the other way round. They did that with a lot of things. The old switcheroo where it didn't make sense at all. Just to say: "Hey, see, what we did? We're so clever. Zuko seeing Appa and saying: Dont't worry! Zuko saying to Iroh: Luten would have been proud to be your son. (WHAT?) June being hot for Iroh. etc
Something about the way iroh dismisses the issues zukos crew has with him rubbed me the wrong way. And kind of made them both a little unlikable to me. I dont mind changes in general but the isolation that zuko feels is important to his growth, and so is dealing with the effects of his flaws and how he treats people. It would have worked better if Iroh talked to zuko about earning loyalty by being thoughtful leader.
They did the face stealer dirty IMO, it would have been so cool to see a live action aang have to be completely emotionless talking to that big ass monster, chucking in a few jump scares and it could have been a great scene
This is such a massive disappointment to me- Why should we be afraid of Ko now? Like seriously how is he even a threat at all if he can only steal the faces of people lost in the fog of souls 😵💫 I also think that introducing Avatar Kuruk was a big mistake, the way they slowly drop seeds in the original builds much more interest, it pays off more when you think back to Ko and realise it was Kuruk’s wife Ummi’s face that Ko took. If they wanted it to be more edgy and mature then Ko was a fantastic way to convey that but they watered him down so he’s pretty much no threat at all. Completely butchered everything to do with the spirit world honestly.
The original voice was so much more unsettling too. This koh is okayish. But the original was just scary, dangerous yet with this sirupy smooth calm voice...
With all critics aside, I still love how they did uncle Iroh's back story when his son died n have zuko gives hope to him, n with the Leaves from the vine instrumental played in the background, hands down gets my feels just like when uncle iroh celebrates his son's birthday in ba sing se.
The thing is, it works only because you know the original, are influenced by the pay off and character building of the original. If you haven t seen the original, it just comes out as a weird but okay scene and the music carries no signification. So on a media creation pov, it s a total failure, just living off the work of the original.
Now that you have said that, that makes sense n just shows how you need to be coming from the original source material first then to the live action "adaptation" to truly enjoy the show... Good point btw
I'm early on in the video, but I'm very quickly reminded of something I heard - if the acting is an issue across the board, then it often isn't an issue with the actors, but the directors.
A lot of those actors have proven themselves in other roles (be it iroh or katara, they did better elsewhere) So clearly, the issue here is the lack of direction. It also shows in all the fighting scenes. There was no direction, no choregraphy etc ...
The notebook makes sense. Is very believable that Zuko would study and keep a dairy of everything he learn about the Avatar. Is not a ridiculous addition. 🙄
Huge fan of the original series. I agree the acting (and therefore the directing) was really green. It gave me the feelings I have going back and watching the first 2 Harry Potter movies when the main 3 characters were very obviously finding their acting chops. I was actually ok with the heaviness of the burden on Aang in the live action vs the animated. In the animated, you are watching a cartoon war and it grows in how serious it is as the show progresses. What I’m trying to get at is, it would have been more weird to watch real life human beings watch the avatar act like a kid and not be absolutely furious at the fact that he’s been gone 100 years and shows up and all he wants to do is goof off? They’ve been watching people die. He can’t go penguin sledding and ride the unagi in the live action without coming across as highly unlikeable. Some things play out well animated and don’t translate to real human beings.
Literally this. There was definitely some things wrong ofc, but people need to realize it is an adaptation that deals with real human beings and emotions. It’s meant to be a little different.
I agree. I think the show was actually good. Just needs some work acting wise and slightly with character building. Could have been way worse though. Could have been cheesy or canny as hell, Horrible effects, etc. But it wasn’t any if that tbf
I think there might be more nuance to how people would react to Aang’s goofiness/childlike behavior. Yeah most of the older folk would probably be bitter and reprimand him but I feel like a lot of people would be in disbelief/shock or even hopeful that the Avatar had returned, considering he is somewhat of a mythical figure at this point. I don’t think everyone would be pissed at him especially considering that it’s human nature to want to hold on to the positive and good things in life. I’ve met many people going through hardship or with traumatic upbringings who remain light in spirit.
The loss of the original creators made this version feel like a high school stage play. A true testament to the soul the original show had and how it can't (and shouldn't be) replicated.
Even after all the many Big mistakes I still feel like they have the ability to make this work if there is a season 2 to this. If season two works well with toph and story changes blend in it would be cool to see
I think bad writing was a much bigger problem than bad acting. Ex. They told us they were friends without showing us. There is a ridiculous amount of exposition and the pacing was wonky. The mutilation of katara’s character was the biggest blunder for me.
They took a great female character and made her a Mary Sue. They took physically fit characters who can preform incredible gymnastics and martial arts, and chose overweight actors who def can not preform any of those physical demands. They took the most loved Uncle on TV of all time and made him boring. They took storylines and just threw them out the window, or rushed through them. The fact they made Yue a knowledge seeking fox is completely ridiculous Wan Shi Ton should only be in the library. EVER
Alot if people thought the original creators left the Netflix project because Netflix wanted to change it up but in reality the original creators wanted to change it up but Netflix didn't want to. The original creators have stated multiple times they don't like doing the same thing twice
The original creators leaving was the nail in the coffin for me. One piece respected Oda's views and because of that the audience loved it. Who would've thought that respecting the original story with an existing audience would do better than making a show changing the original story for an imaginary audience?
IMO - The Netflix live adaptation truly hits the mark, checking all the boxes for what makes a great live-action adaptation. While some reviews nitpick about missing scenes from the animated series, I believe it's a wise choice. Replicating every scene and dialogue line by line would eliminate the surprise factor, making it a mere copy-paste of the animated version and predictable. I appreciate the innovative touch, like the Earth Kingdom spy chase in the opening scene of episode 1, offering a fresh perspective for both animated series veterans and new viewers. For the pacing, appears they opted to streamline some scenes, omitting other the intricate details. This decision likely aimed to prioritize essential scenes and maintain a dynamic pace in the live-action adaptation, preventing the plot from becoming drawn out.
This is exactly how I would interpret the differences. If anything, it brings a more cinematic feel to see some sense of interconnection between the many different and essential plot lines that stem from the original show. There's simply not enough time! It really just feels like people don't appreciate innovations these days, which is something that baffles me 🙄
"It was so diverse!!! I was so happy with that!!!" (*2 seconds later*) "The acting needs SERIOUS work..." Yeah... no shit. That's what happens when you hire people based on looks and ethnicity and not on skill or talent. There's nothing wrong with hiring a very talented actor and putting them in costume or makeup to visually fit the look of the character. It's called ACTING for a reason. It's not meant to be taken as a serious offense. Otherwise... we'd want Leo Dicaprio's head on a plate for his role in Django. 👀
Saying Asian people can't be good actors is racist, saying a white person could've done it better is racist. If you think someone else could've done it better please give names of who you would've cast. And there is something wrong with dressing someone to look Asian to take an ethnic role, that's close to what black face was. This show had an all Asian cast which is a beautiful thing. These people were cast because they ARE good actors who also looked like the characters and had similar personality and chemistry, if you think the acting seems bad it's the director's fault for saying that's how they wanted it. Or the fans who think the acting is bad are just wrong and mad that Katata isn't more angry looking. It is an opinion after all. But some things don't translate to live action so they probably cut a lot of the animated expressions that probably would've looked bad. I believe in the people doing this show being fans and the blue spirit sequemce tells me if they could've kept details they cut they would have.
@@cutecats532 THIS. And even though it started with bad acting, I could see it improving by the end, some of them actually managed to channel the characters as they got used to it. Like some other commenter said, it's kinda like how they werent very credible in the first couple Harry Potters. Let the fresh blood get their grasp on the characters !
@@cutecats532the writing was horrendous, but don’t be telling these lies. The actors & actresses cast for this are horrible. Sokka actor is the probably best of him, Aang, & Katara. And he was mediocre at best. These kids are not seasoned actors and they all have multiple cringe dialogue scenes. Writing didn’t help, but this entire cast was not it. Honestly, only the Zuko actor nailed the role of the younger characters
@@cutecats532 something tells me your the racist one if you immediately take "These actors were bad at their roles" and turn it into "Asians are bad actors" could be just me but that feels pretty bad to insinuate
One of my biggest problems for the show was there was no "filler". People look down on filler because they think it distracts from the plot but you have a hour worth of an episode you can put aside 30 secs of these kids just being kids!
The problem is y’all tryna compare, “in the original, this that”… that’s why it will never be good to you!!! I’m glad they renewed it for season 2&3 🕺!
Netflix needs to stop hiring junior writers for such a big IP. HIRE PROFESSIONAL WRITERS. The only reason onepiece was so good was because the original writer was in it. The witcher was so bad because of the horrid and new writers.
The thing is they only needed one more episode to reach the same run time of the original first season, these people had the formula and everything and still screwed it up. No wonder the original LAB writers left.
I really liked that they remixed all the episodes as someone who is seen the original more than six times. Because I already knew the plot it remained interesting to me to see how they’ve changed things up and what interesting combinations they came up with.
yeah the most disappointment i got from this are mai and azula cast, they were some of my childhood crush so i was hoping both of them to look sexy in dominating way, but atleast june looks pretty hot
There are alot of fans who loved it too. I'm one of them them. The Audience is 75% on Rotten Tomatos. Which tells me more people liked it than hated it.
Trusting critics is more reliable than the audience rating. Most audience members who can be traced to leave reviews on Rotten Tomatoes are either passionately for, or passionately against. The critic scores are a numerical aggregate of the ratings given by all the critics that have reviewed the film. You don't have to review the series to leave an audience rating. The audience score is an aggregate of all the people who have *chosen* to give the film a score on Rotten Tomatoes. People who choose to give a film a score on Rotten Tomatoes tend not to be on average representative of filmgoers in general, because most filmgoers don’t bother to give the film a score on Rotten Tomatoes. This means that it tends to be people who either *really* like a film, or *really don’t* like it, who bother to go to Rotten Tomatoes and register their like or dislike. Critics aren’t writing for Rotten Tomatoes, they’re writing for their own publications, or their own blogs, so they have to write about the film, because it’s their *job*, or because their blog will lack credibility if they don’t. So, I would be less inclined to trust the passionate partisanship of people leaving their one-sentence reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, and more inclined to trust the reviews of people who saw the film out of a sense of duty. The latter are… *… less nuts*
@@KayceWoo the critics are idiots and largely irrelevant, the audience is what actually matters, what pays for and consumes the media. And Rotten Tomatoes is like the buzzfeed of cinema ratings... Nobody takes it seriously
@rath979 professionals that do this for their own publications, or their own blogs, so they have to write about the film, because it’s their *job* are the idiots but not the randos that go make the review with zero qualification's 😂 Comon.
I loved it too... until you actually watch it for the story and not for the visual effects and for the fanservice, like future characters showing up that are irrelevant for the plot.
My thing with the notebook… the entire purpose originally for Zuko to catch the avatar was to reclaim his honor. But the notebook made him look like a closet fanboy. I will say, the scene when Aang complimented his penmanship, I found it wholesome. But also should only exist in a parallel universe aka fanfic.
To be fair. It s kind of understandable that he would compile any clues on the avatar to find him. But the penmanship conversation is just awful, because they did show the diary and his penmanship is on a toddler s level 😅 It d be like complimenting this adaptation for being a masterpiece.😅
Not everything could be as to the tea with the cartoon understand but if anybody that's in a comment section that think they could do better why don't you make up your own version of this story since you're no better than what they doing
As long as everyone is hating on the show so much we wont get anymore. The fans will kill this like so many other shows and movies by being too over critical.
Don't worry we'll get a season 2. I don't think they started filming yet. Hopefully they will learn from some of the mistakes from season 1 and improve on season 2. Personally i enjoyed the series. It has a 85% like viewer rating on google and 75% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes. So for sure we get a season 2.
I think most of the backlash has come from hardcore fans and critics. The audience grade is in the 7.5-8 range and it seems to be very popular on Netflix rn
Trusting critics is more reliable than the audience rating. Most audience members who can be traced to leave reviews on Rotten Tomatoes are either passionately for, or passionately against. The critic scores are a numerical aggregate of the ratings given by all the critics that have reviewed the film. You don't have to review the series to leave an audience rating. The audience score is an aggregate of all the people who have *chosen* to give the film a score on Rotten Tomatoes. People who choose to give a film a score on Rotten Tomatoes tend not to be on average representative of filmgoers in general, because most filmgoers don’t bother to give the film a score on Rotten Tomatoes. This means that it tends to be people who either *really* like a film, or *really don’t* like it, who bother to go to Rotten Tomatoes and register their like or dislike. Critics aren’t writing for Rotten Tomatoes, they’re writing for their own publications, or their own blogs, so they have to write about the film, because it’s their *job*, or because their blog will lack credibility if they don’t. So, I would be less inclined to trust the passionate partisanship of people leaving their one-sentence reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, and more inclined to trust the reviews of people who saw the film out of a sense of duty. The latter are… *… less nuts*
@@KayceWooIf the critics had rated it high and audiences hated it, you would be saying the opposite, that critics are paid off, or something, and only trust audiences. You just want your views valudated.
the original ATLA was mature enough for the adult, idk why netflix bother to change that. Migh aswell add a sex scene, if they want to attract GoT audience lol
Dear Creators, yall doing a wonderful job, however, take y’all’s time. Don’t rush it. Follow the literal script of the anime version. Watch where this show goes. Guarantee it blows up
Azusa really is too..uhmm….big.. I know it’s a little mean but she doesn’t look as athletic. Also she CAN NOT fire bend/lightning bend. She doesn’t know how to do it. Lightning bending doesn’t work like that. Also her Firebending isn’t blue :(
HAHAH thank you. I've been saying this everywhere. Since when do you electrocute yourself while lightning bending? Are we not respecting the original attention to detail, with well worked out choreography and a REAL martial arts master? .. Guess not! Let's do some corny movements instead, nobody will notice. Exactly what the orginal creators didn't want. It looking like Disney magic...
The original creators of Avatar need to colab with Hulu or something. I hate the netflix version. Aang is so uptight in the show. Suki is made like shes got no social skills. Suki was made to be badass not shy
I don't understand why a live action Avatar is the hardest thing to make. Like they literally just need to do a 1 to 1 adaptation and people would love it. No one asked for a more serious Avatar, that's what Kora is for.
Are we expecting an exact copy of the series though? Im asking as a huge fan myself... like I was happy they changed it a bit... otherwise it would not be a surprise at all! Still missed the capture of Aang from Zuko though!
Y'all hatin on the netflix show so hard we won't get to see any adaptation of Toph. Sure, there's things i would've loved to see from the animation series but its an adaptation. We can enjoy the animated series and the Netflix series. There's ways they can implement somethings still from book 1 in seaon 2 but we will never find out cause everyone running to the internet to bash it
Just want to add: the music for me was excelent! I play traditional asian instruments and I loved they used them. They even changed the sounds and instruments from culture to culture, which made the world building more detailed.
The problem ain't the show, the problems are the fans that expecting too much of a live action. The show a great job in my opinion, way better than the movie attempt.
@Eh......... take it from someone who've worked in media, the budget to make it on par with the animated series would cost way more than you'd imagine, and they've already sunk so much into CGI. Trust me, I'm a huge ATLA fan, I've been obsessed since I was a child, but I'm even understanding of what it takes to make these types of live actions. The show was never gonna be 1 to 1 with the cartoon. It's stil overall the same story, but retold in a different way. It gave us references to characters we love, and side stories we favorited, while also keeping us refreshed with new insights on relationships between characters. The bond between Iroh and Zuko was portrayed amazingly, Zuko's crew story was mind blowing, Sokka character development in wanting to become a better warrior for his dad's approval was better than him learning to respect women, Azula trying to win over her father's approval is a better taste than just being born loved. The whole backstory about Zuko's scar was painted better than the cartoon, Iroh's backstory when he was captured was painted better than the cartoon. Did things feel rushed? Yeah of course it did because you can't expect to fit an entire first season of the cartoon into 4 1-hour long episodes before they can give us a great ending to the season. In summary, quit with the high expectations, be glad they gave us great references, appreciate the new takes, and don't ruin our chances of getting a 2nd season.
Maybe the whole not learning water bending for Aang is to stretch it out (more seasons - less episodes), which would make sense for the format. I kind of liked how Katara was portrayed as very independent with her learning, even though it was a little fast, and I'd sacrifice a little of the deeper development with Aang for that in season 1. With that said, I do think season two first couple of episodes need to really sell the bonding and friendship, otherwise the stakes don't really work (whenever they had to save each other this season it felt more like obligation/plot-points than that they actually cared). Edit: I do think this season could've benefited a lot from an extra episode. More journey/bonding oriented and with some training/goofing off. Kind of like a filler but just to make some relationships/skills fall into place and feel more natural.
The problem with you critics is you want Netflix to copy everything from the original series.. because that just impossible.. the movie didn't work because the time constraints.. aang not goofing off is a structural change but understandable given it's a massive conflict... because Netflix clearly emphasize responsibility and duty to aang.. and can't blame this Netflix aang because of the devastation of the war to quickly grow up.. you are just nitpicking at this point.. This version for me can't be called a failure.. it's not perfect.. but it's worth watching..
I loved it. I thought it was really well done. The ONLY issue I have is the casting choices for Azula, Mai and Ty Lee. Outside of that I think people aren't giving this show enough credit. And I hope for a season 2.
Great breakdown! I haven't watched the show yet but i wanted to see how different it was from the cartoon. I feel better going into it with all your explanations! Looking forward to checking out the rest of ur content
I think a lot of these criticisms are simply stemming from the fact that they compressed an entire season's worth of narratives in to eight hours. That's a sacrifice natural to TV making, regardless of source material. Hopefully they take people's feedback to heart and perhaps take season 2 a little slower.
The show is very good. I think they did an excellent job adapting the story. With only eight episodes they were able to tell the story, brought in all the important characters, didn’t forget about details, and what they did change made sense. Fans need to relax and stop expecting adaptations to be identical. This was not as good as the show, but unlike the movie, this was a great show. The show also has more seasons and therefore opportunities to add things they may have missed. Overall the changes or misses didn’t ruined the experience of the show.
I think one thing they were definitely struggling with was understanding the perspective of the main audience/fandom that grew up watching this show as children. We all tend to remember certain things from the show through a lens of emotion and impact, at least moreso than the novelty of the world (tho that novelty is what grabbed our attention and made it all linger longer). For example, Koh was impactful BECAUSE we knew he might steal Aang's face, and we were all on the edge of our seats worried that Aang would mess up, and left wondering if WE could even pull it off. This made everything even scarier, with Koh's very distrubing design solidifying it as nightmare fuel to us kids. It also sneakily tought us a little bit more about how we all physically express our emotions. We didn't just enjoy the Koh story for the novelty of seeing a creepy spirit, we enjoyed it because it was so freaking intense and hype! Without the right vibe, its meaningless. Another aspect to consider is that most of us tuned into the show through TV re-runs, and so we didnt always know why a character was there or who they really were. The creators knew this would be the case, so to avoid too much confusion, they made almost every episode its own standalone story (though a piece of a bigger arc) and they simplified each character into a trope that was easy to understand. You tuned in and saw an angry, volatile guy with a scar shooting fire out of his body and you thought "Oh, so he's the villain! And it makes sense that he's a firebender too because he's so angry and mean! He's just like fire itself!" The impact of much of what we saw as kids can largely be boiled down to a few words per episode and a few words per character, which capture general vibes, tropes, or emotions surrounding these things. And the Netflix version failed to capture A TON of that nuance in this adaptation. They didn't bother to think about how these stories impacted us or their lessons, or how we understood certain characters growing up. Instead, they just focused on the existence of those individual things themselves, thus removing them of their emotional attachment.
They took a lot from Zuko as well, but overall it's still a good character. For example: He didn't fight back to his father for the love he had on the animated series and also, he was a 12 years old, he didn't stand a chance to the FIre Lord at that point, contribuiting to his relisient personality and how he worked really hard to became a real master, it will be hard for them to justify when zuko screamed ""You've always thrown everything you could at me. Well I can take it, and now I can give it back! Come on, strike me!" because Zuko seems to be a prodigy now. Don't know. So I really didn't liked the Agni Kai cause of that. But the relationship with Iroh is good. Overall, he is still a pretty good character on the Netflix adaptation. It's like Netflix just removed all the flaws from the "good" characters and made the "bad" characters just hateful, insecure instead of just evil as Azula should have been.
Small note, Zuko in the original is 16, and 17 when he takes the throne. But I agree Netflix made Zuko too powerful, and they made Azula and Ozai too weak.
This adaptation was horrible. The fighting scenes were the only positives but at the same time super random. Like you said Katara got OPed out of nowhere! I doubt I will watch season 2. I'm just going to bleach my eyes and cleanse my soul by rewatching the original for the 100th time now
I pretty much agree with all your points. I didn’t have many issues with the Spirit world stuff. Except for Wan Shi Tong. He had no narrative purpose whatsoever. Especially since they cut the Zhao finding the library. The Yue addition in the spirit world was ok. It’s odd they chose a Fox form considering the lore. I would have believed a fish instead. Maybe they just wanted to fake out the fans? But still I think it sets up her spiritual connection and her relationship with Sokka well. It’s nice that she is able to be engaged with her relationship with Sokka instead of constantly pushing away.
The entire set/costumes made it feel like cosplay to me. Strictly because no one looked ever hot, cold, sweaty or out of place. Very controlled sets. (Which obviously make it easier to shoot and reset)
Based on the fact the people of the Northern Water Tribe live in a North Pole-like area, their clothes should have some abrasion of the surface due to their hunting routine, or some parts covered with frost or maybe hardened in the cold temperature. And shouldn't they breathe out fog whenever they open their mouth, especially talking? That's basic science. The Kyoshi Warriors should also have abrasion on their clothes, espacially on the joints and palms, some parts could also have patches or stitches, and even have parts of the fabric torn and ripped, it not only shows they are experienced fighters, but also tells the audience how tough they are.
Around 10 minutes in you say a phrase that describes much of my reaction to the season: they missed the opportunity to make so much of a lot better. I have theories as to why they fell short, but won’t discuss them here. Overall, it wasn’t bad. It could have a lot worse, but should have been a lot better. I was hopeful going in, came out a bit disappointed. It’s like getting to play 7 minutes in heaven in junior high, then finding out it was with your ugly cousin…
I FIXED the first season ⬇️
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I'm not upset. This series is awesome. I'm just starting episode 6 and it's been great. Episodes 1 and 2 were epic. It's been pretty faithful to the cartoon. Obviously they can't be 100% faithfull as somethings just don't translate well but all in all its been great. I've got my Avatar Last airbender Complete series blueray ready to watch again after i finish the netflix
I agree with most of what you said except the part about "diversity"
"Asia" isn't just East Asia.
Water Tribe culture was based on the Inuits....but they're not real Inuits.
They had brown skin and blue eyes. Which is not like any real life ethnicity.
If we say the Water Tribe are Inuits, we might as well say the Fremen in the fantasy world of Dune are Bedouin Arabs.
Which they're obviously not according to the description of the characters.
This is the honest review i was looking for. Plus yu wei in the movie is much better than yu wei in the series
im gonna cleanse my eyes with the original, brb
It's not that bad, more like 6.5-7.5 maximum. For me, it would be better if they went for a shot to shot remake. They made their own changes and at the same time they didn't know enough about the lore for me and what's important not to miss in it... Some changes worked and some didn't. At this rate, they will definitely make some change in those 3 seasons that will be over the line, which will piss off a lot of people. Even now there have been a few such changes, but for now I can be more benevolent and give them a chance to fix the mistakes in season 2, although I don't think they will fix everything. I don't believe they will make a change in the number of episodes. It would need at least 12-15 episodes per season even if with a smaller budget per episode and not skip things and not have such a fast pace.
Aang goofing off and being fun is very important because it reminds the audience that he is a CHILD and this burden is on a child. So he can’t be expected to deal with everything as well as an adult would.
Exactly
No shit that’s not the problem with this aang tho. It’s the acting it lacks the understanding of what aang represents.
There was that scene in episode 1 where Aang was monologuing about knowing "who he is and that he likes to play airball and goofing off with his friends". Instead of letting Aang tell us that, why not show it at all???? Then it would drive home the point that Aang is still a kid and not ready for the responsibilities the role of being an Avatar brings. I hate Netflix.
@@Too2Cold It's not necessarily the acting, it's mostly the direction. A good director will make an actor look good even if they are not very good at acting
@@LuisSierra42 no that is a full blown lie. The director can make the direction but what’s direction without actually acting through it. That’s like saying I wish I had a million dollars but I don’t want to do anything to get it.
My issue is Azula. She was cold and ruthless and fearless in the original, but the live action makes her insecure, jealous, and immature, and the actress doesn't look the part or portray her well.
I thought it was just me
In my opinion, It's moreso she _was_ insecure and jealous, but that was hidden under a monolith of cold controlling facade. We see it break down and revealing those inner insecurities in the end when she went insane from paranoia.
That's the problem of the show, it doesn't respect its audiene to be able to piece things together, it HAS to tell/show them...more often tell. And even with it fails every other time.
It’s weird that you’d pick anything other than the non stop exposition
She looked fine. She's only 14 after all and in the animated series she looked 16 or even older. Everything else I agree with. Azula was confident and cruel, just like Ozai. Her insecurities in book 3 stem from her demeanor failing and her friends turning against her. Ozai doesn't play with her, he brainwashed her since she was born.
@@powerpuff_avenger I think the issues with Azula in the live action is her trying to win her father's approval and being emotional. Azula in the animated struggled as she was emotionless and cold shown on Ember Island. She also wasn't trying hard to win her father's approval because she already had it, Ozai loved Azula from birth she was the embodiment of perfection. Also, they are missing how she came off as in complete control of every situation she walked into (before her breakdown at least). She just doesn’t have that intimidation factor at all.
I honestly loved the 41st battalion change that they made with Zuko.
Yes, finally someone talks about it.
Yes, that was a-ma-zing!
Me too! It felt natural and organic!
My personal favorite moment in the series
It was the only change that actualky elevated the story from the original. Sadly its the only change that does that for the live action.
You can clearly see why the original creators left the Netflix project so early on.
They left coz they wanted to change things from the original story read the article
Not really...
@@Halalrock oh I’d be so upset that the ORIGINAL CREATORS, changed stuff in there own show. That also be one less problem, among the plenty of other problems in this glorified cosplay show.
Kim says. "That was a conscious decision to show people this is not the animated series."
Go slice some cheese with that whine consumer goblins lmao
@@Galiant2010 don’t worry this show was made for people like you needing constant dopamine drip of consumer products
@@augustus_tiberius. you just prove how fickle fans can be ! u wouldn’t b happy w anything ahaha
It’s like a typical Netflix show where they change everything to appeal to an audience that doesn’t exist and give middle finger to already existing audience who was very excited for it .
If you're going in expecting everything to be exactly like the cartoon, you're already setting it yourself to be a disappointment.
I actually liked it being an avatar fan. Things that no one has said is how they gave subtle nods Iroh's way of keeping things casual without answer questions. For example, how in the neflix version he told Zuko that solders must of missed him during music night. It was like how the cartoon Iroh stopped zhao from getting a cheap shot at zuko. He said zuko was more honorable than him and said thanks for the jasmine tea that it was delicious. Zuko ask if he really meant it. And Iroh said, of course. Jasmine tea is his favorite.
Both started with Agni Kai (oazi, zhao), zuko refuse to finish his opponent, uncle not really answering the question, zuko gaining a sense of honor( respect from solders, not tarnish his victory)
Pretty much
No they should make cartoons real and run a 20 episode season that’s exactly like the cartoon … idiots 😂
Why do y'all keep using this dumb argument? That is not what we're talking about @@antfr1993
@UncleTom854-bm5lv go fap to the animated series bro lol … I’m 💯 you don’t it already
Hate what they did to Bumi. Also why is it a trend in the new show for adults to dunk down on a 12 years old for not being there for a 100 years? Seems like a very counterproductive way to motivate a child to save the world.
Bumi was way too serious
I hated the way Aang discovered who Bumi was as well. Also, Bumi's and Kyoshi's anger towards Aang for running away is made even weirder by the fact that Aang apparently *didn't* run away like he did in the original. He basically just took a ride on Appa with the intention of coming back, but ultimately wasn't able to due to the storm. So technically, it wasn't really HIS fault by there own logic.
Netflix wanted to make Aang more likeable by removing any character flaws (like they did with Sokka) yet they doubled down on making him less likeable. I totally sympathized with 12-yr-old Aang in the original, but this adaptation made him less human.
Tbf,when i was i kid that was one of the things i didn't like about the show that hardly anyone asked Aang why was missing for 100 years. That is one of the negatives that of being an avatar that ATLA hardly touched upon but was very apparent in the LOK
@@jimmyliuwho He almost seemed like a villain almost. His mad genius didn't seem genuine. First he throws Aang a feast, then proceeds to throw a hissy fit. Also, the clothing he wears didn't reflect his crazy side, it seemed too polished.
@@powerpuff_avengerThat’s the point, this version was exploring a more cynical and jaded path Bumj could have and arguably more likely would have taken. After all he has dealt with a war with the Fire Nation for a century. It wasn’t done well, necessarily, but I got what was being communicated.
While you were talking about Katara I think you missed that she didn’t train at all! Pakku never trained her, they just suddenly and randomly called her master Katara and she suddenly new waterbending out of nowhere. It defeats the point of the show in that Aang who has his past lives can also just know the other elements without training as well. No need for toph and zuko in the future.
EXACTLY! I think this was the most nonsensical thing in the entire series!
Yeah. She doesn't fight him for the right to be trained by a master, she fights him to fight in the battle, it was silly. She has a literal line that she's her own master who only trained herself. Crazy
She learns the key to bending from Aang, and then learns fast. It's implied they have adventures off screen and Katara made up a water bending move from seeing an earth bender do it. I think Aang said that's a sign of a master(?) so maybe it's that she was learning a lot on the way up there but doubted her own abilities. She didn't know how good she was. And I mean in the original show how many days did she train to become a master, when she was already good? I think it was condensed for time but her learning it a little bit faster because she learned from Aang makes it make sense.
@@cutecats532 stop the cap. Her (one sentence) "learning" from Aang should only translate so far to her waterbending, even considering Aang is only strictly an Airbender, man didn't bend a single molecule of water. Her drive to be a good bender doesn't exist, her drive to want to learn from a waterbending master doesn't exist. Period.
@@cutecats532 I understand that they had time constraints which is why I think a training montage would have been a better suited alternative to "Oooh look, I'm a master now!"
I think the entire first season showed adults in a poor light as if they are overbearing, unhelpful, toxic and unrealistic. There's little to no respect for experience, knowledge and guidance in adults (except Iroh) because of how the adult characters were written. I saw it in the past Avatars and the leadership of the various groups. When the Chief and Master Pakku simply turned away from Aang and said "he can't help us" I was flabbergasted.
So, being fair to time constraints, they probably would have been better off showing us condensations of the original story that makes sense long term rather than slapping 'adults bad, own way good' on the series... I'm concerned about where the order of the White Lotus is even going to come from.
this is how the gang felt when they were watching the play on ember island
😂 Facts
Nah. At least Ember Island was meant to be comedic.
😂😂😂
The costumes and acting were better than the live action.😂😂😂
The actress playing June, Arden Cho, would've made the perfect Azula if she were 10 years younger.
20 years younger*. She's 39 rn
@@yuurinayase8377 Of course, but we see grown ass people playing teenagers all the time. Tom Welling was 24 in the first season of Smallville.
More like 25 years younger 😅
She is 40 and azula is supposed to be 14... 😂
I get that she has a bit more of the correct attitude, though.
@@alexandrorocca7142 and it was flagrant.
And that was for a 24 y.o playing a 17 y.o.
Here it would be a 40y.o playing a 14 y.o
Not the same gap to cross 😅
Uncle Iroh not being his carefree and joyful self in the beginning takes away the impact of finding out he was powerful warlord. To know he became such a caring and gentle man after decades of being a feared warrior is powerful. Also seeing everyone respects him and don't get me started with the arc where he's trapped in prison. It proves that he is really that dude. The show watered everyone's character down
"Wait the tea and advice guy besieged Omashu for how long?"
Ofcourse they watered every one’s characters down, they had to put like 25 episodes in 8. They were always gonna leave out a lot of character building and focus more on plot. Understandable
@@merengue7139except they still have tons of pointless expostion and do nothing with characters. 25 episodes with that Can easily be combined and cut
@@Speederzzz it was ba sing se
@@merengue7139 you do realize that the length of the shows are essentially the same, right? lol
Bro sokka is one of the 3 main characters, wym it’s okay for his fundamental character arc to be gone? Wtf is he there for then
It just felt SO RUSHED. I don’t have time to even process any emotions they’re trying to hit. The animated series is filled with so many wise teachings too! But it’s so rushed in the netflix series that, even if they had a few lines that are wise……. I CAN’T HAVE A FEW SECONDS TO LET THAT SINK IN. UGHHHHHHH
I felt the same way tbh -_-
Watch the animated series again. It's pretty rushed at the beginning.
The fact that they left to go to the north to learn water bending from the masters and now they're leaving without Aang learning to bend water when the first season is about the water element
@@richmerchnot as bad as this lol
then just watch the movie again, is better
I went in with an open mindset. I can forgive the costumes, I can forgive the less-than ideal actor/actress choices that didnt feel right, I can forgive the story changes, I can forgive the world-lore changes (like airbending flying), I can forgive the few 3d effects that were bad. For me what made the original show soo good was rich, but subtle world building; character development; intricate and reasonable plotlines, deeper themes; and the ability to blend humor with profound emotion and action. With an honest open mind, I don't see the show delivering on any of these points. from soul-less world building, to exposition dumps, to complete disregard for the themes that setup key moments in the plot... so far this is a big miss for me. Imagine if this money was instead put into delivering us another animated series with the backing of the original creators. sigh
Go woke go broke
Exactly they took a nice crisp fizzy refreshment and made it flat. Still better than he movie tho. Why won't the producers learn.. IF IT AINT BROKE DON'T FIX IT.
Two misses in my opinion was not having an agni-ki between Zuko and Zhao towards the beginning which really set the tone between the two and just how strong Zuko was and their hatred for each other.
The other was not having the Jeong Jeong experience on fire bending, I feel this was a big miss not only on his path of learning the elements but also why Aang is so hesitant to learn fire bending down the road.
My biggest dislikes were vindictive, angry Bumi, Zuko & Zhao working together and thus far pretty much everything about Azula.
I agree 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
For me the way they did the cave of the two lovers mean they got the legend of it how the tunnel were made but having sokka and katara didn’t make any sense but I was focusing more on the bending more specifically earth and fire bending
The fire path can very well be explore in Season Two.
@@UncleTom854-bm5lvwhile I do agree that there is problems hope we realize it’s an adaptation not a remake and the original creators were going to change things too.
Azula was the worst part of the show
The Ember Island Players adapted the story more respectfully than Netflix did.
I'd rather a whole spin off series of just the Ember Island Players version of avatar then rewatch Netflix Avatar
They made the mistake of thinking that adult oriented means grim, rather than intelligent. This ironically ends up painting a less emotionally heavy picture as when the goofy friendly kid is replaced with a focused and driven one you lose all the weight of him being genuinely conflicted about whether he can really hold on to those lighthearted values when the chips are down.
But still keep the bending-taking, IMO (w/ different source ofc), IMO. Aang defeating Ozai w/o killing him is very important climax for thim as Air monk and him killing Ozai means he failed as one.
That's not a bad thing. There is still plenty of playful energy and childhood innocence in this show
omd i gave the fattest laugh when you said remove the lion turtle... cus youre right or at least illude to them a bit more
I dont think you even need to remove anything or change any plot/character elements, just make it so death actually occurs in the show (which they did). The original never actually showed anyone lose their life. Just show it this time around and shit just got way more serious with nothing else being changed.
He still acted like a kid in this show the only time he didn’t was when he needed to be serious
Its sad that so bad directors and writers worked with these awesome visual effects artists
I hate that they basically removed Katara's personality. She's mostly just a blank slate in the live-action show. Her energy, passion, and rage are all practically gone. And it's even weirder that they gave Sokka some of Katara's personality traits like the scene when he tells Katara to grow up? Animated Katara basically raised that man, she's the more mature one. I also didn't like that the crew don't get to spend much time together, in all the middle episodes they are split up so they don't get a lot of time to develop as a team so it's hard to care about them as a team. *ALSO Azula was not Azulaing*
Something that I will never understand is why they decided to change Aang’s decision for running away with “temporarily going to clear his head”. Running away when things get hard is one of the most important aspects of Aang's character arc. He's the guy who avoids and evades. Refuses to face things head on. Retreats into denial when the genocide of his people is fairly obvious. Spends large quantities of the show doing ridiculous nonsense because he can't face the reality of how important his mission is. The Storm sets that flaw as his origin story, and it has ripples throughout the entirety of the show.
God-forbid we make him cowardly and flawed, since people don’t like character flaws nowadays! Because growing and improving is something we do not have patience for.
Yep the writers basically took all of the art that the artists made for the show and turned it into nothing more than cheap entertainment
The original cartoon had tons of moments where they simply showed you the characters so that you could feel alongside them. There wasn't a need for verbal explanation or expository dialogue. Confident fictions treat there audiences with the assumption of intelligence and trust you to feel on your own
@@yomamma.ismydaddy216 They're speed running the show... They're merging a lot of things together to give a deeper and more depth experience for the audience. This isn't retailing the cartoon, because the cartoon is great and never needed to change, but an adaptation
Nobody who understands filming is hating on the actors.
It's the directing that made the child actors read cringy scripts with no letting up on their emotions and only speaking in one liners with cheap camera work.
you are right. But I think it has to do with the fact that most people haven't seen them acting good in another project. Too sad you get the first impression out of a bad direction. Or they could also be just inexperienced. I mean, the ones who gave the best performances (Ozai/Zhao) where the most seasoned actors.
Exactly
Aang actor was sooo bad it hurts.
Ugh, They made Gran gran into an exposition dispenser. it's heartbreaking.
The script is pretty damn ass except like some Uncle Iroh/Zuko moments and original moments.
In my experience, shows that explicitly try to be more adult often end up less mature than the source material.
Completely agree on the frustration of not seeing neither of them train in water bending. I'm like 'This is a show (in part) about training up your martial art to win a war! Where's the TRAINING!?'
anyone that says they want their show to be like game of throwns should be immediately fired
Fr’s
True 😂
Azula is a psycho. This actress isn't giving. Zuko on the other hand was perfect. Yeah, he's missing a bit of edge but he has so much emotion that it works. Also, we got way too much Azula & the Fire Lord in Season 1. Like one maybe two scenes would have been plenty.
Honestly my major issue with the show is the writing/story missed the entire point of what is important and made the animated series so good.
Season 1 should have been more playful with Aang slowly realizing the gravity of his situation and what it means to be the Avatar in a world at war. King Bumi was written terribly. He's supposed to be a wise member of the Order of the White Lotus and forever youthful "Mad-Genius". Not the way they portrayed him in the Netflix series at all. Why was Aang the one teaching him lessons?! They didn't bring the spirit of the original to this one at all.
AND I REALLY WANTED TO LOVE THIS because I like the cast and the visuals are so beautiful. Hopefully Season 2 will get it together (story/writing wise).
Adults: They should have done what Harry Potter movies did, age with the audience. The first season should have been more fun. The second should be lessons learned with our Queen Toph. The third and final season can be much darker and mature. Like with the show. And IRL the actors will age so it makes sense to age the content with the actors over time.
100%
yeah like him neglecting to learn waterbending would have been good if it could be attributed to him being more playful but it wasnt even so it was both overlooked and dumb.
My feeling is that a lot of the small unnecessary changes undermine the pacing & themes.
Everyone goes around saying their innermost motivations, which hampers the unpeeling of these things; ends up feeling like Ember Island Players' read on the events
"But the effects were decent."
Azula isn’t a psychopath wtf.
Thank you for pointing out what bothered me the most - their lack of friendship. That’s what made the original so special. They supported each other through the good and bad.
When the best thing about a story is 'the visuals' and not 'the story', you're already on the road for failure.
Just shut up and enjoy. The show is very well done they put a lot of work all these people criticizing the show, work at Walmart. Don’t even have a career on nothing, and yet they talk about the show, like they were experts in casting, and put in a show together….
@@gustavo8832that just proves the nepotism surrounding this show.
It just feels like across the board, everyone behind the show didn’t have an in depth understanding of the original. A prime example of that is Zuko as in the live action show, Zuko is focused on getting his throne back. Now, you might say that’s faithful to the original but the key difference is that while yes, Zuko wanted his throne back in the original, he was far more concerned with getting the love of his father and his honor back. Zuko only ever mentions getting his throne back like once or twice in the original, yet it is the main focus of his character in the remake. Having Zuko be more focused on the throne makes his character weaker because it seems like he’s more concerned with his inheritance rather than his own personal atonement, which was a far more engaging motivation for him. Now, it’s sorta understandable that the writers might make the mistake of having Zuko be more focused on his throne, but only if they don’t have an in depth understanding of the original. Make no mistake either, this misunderstanding of the original applies to pretty much every other character along with them clearly misunderstanding the events of the original story and the lore.
Perhaps characters don't always understand their own motivations, just like people in real life. Zuko may have been outwardly focused on regaining his throne, but his subconscious motivation was really to earn his father's love -- he just didn't allow himself to be aware of it. Perhaps then, in a future episode he will have an epiphany moment where he finally begins to understand himself. That would be good writing.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking this, from the original it was easy to tell Zuko was less concerned about actually being fire lord, but just wanted to be welcomed back into his homeland and family. The heavy focus on live Zuko wanting his throne instead of his Honor™️ back was a little jarring. It would be interesting to see how they address that without messing up the redemption arc lol
@@drea4195 M8 please. You're just doing mental gymnastics. In the real show what Zuko really wants is his father's love but interprets and masks it as his "honor" most of the time. This cosplay bootleg changing it to "throne" is absolutely not smart and deep. It's counterproductive. Besides with how much it has hated any subtlety so far it doesn't give any faith that it's going to be what you're making up for defense.
Yeah they totally missed zuko.
Zuko is all about honor. Not entitlement about a throne.
It shows when he fights with zhao, then during the storm, then when he goes after his uncle and finally when he tries to save Zhao from the water spirit...
But they missed all characterisation.
Aang didn t flee his responsabilities and doesn t have to deal with guilt.
Sokka isn t stuck in his beliefs and challenged in his world views.
Katara isn t the sole waterbender of the south, starving to find some teacher or any knowledge. Nor a fiery girl. Now she is just a meek girl who becomes a master with a couple old scroll from her grandma😅
At this point I won’t be surprised if Toph is deaf instead of blind and they meet her at an underground metal bending fighting ring
nah the show sucks but they wouldn't do that lmao
You’re being dramatic..
@@sammiejo6557he’s being funny and it is funny. I was actually expecting toph since the writers are way ahead of themselves
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lmao. I'm scared what they are going to do with her :D
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It’s just me that got really upset that Zuko’s honor is not mentioned?? And the fact that Ozai shows some “love” and/or “respect” towards Zuko?
Honor missing yea, but I was fortunate enough to watch an interview with the actor for Ozai before I saw much of his character with his kids and he said Ozai is a parent trying to prepare his kids for the world, but like most parents is failing and messing them up. It makes his character more interesting than just hating Zuko for being worse than his sister. He really believes he's doing the right thing and teaching his son about respect by banishing him, even if it's cruel and wrong.
@@cutecats532 thanks for the heads up! Then Ozai’s character change makes much more “sense” for me now if they are going to this path!
Also in spirit episode Aang casually flies to the fire nation Roku temple.
Meanwhile in anime Roku’s dragon takes Aang there in the spirit form.
And later we discover how hard it is to get to the Roku temple in physical form guarded by the fire nation.
Not to speak of the inhuman exhaustion a non-stop flight there would represent. But everything is magic in this version. No respect for the orginal world building at all.
When I first saw Azula, tai lee and may. I was like wtf.
When I saw those 3 I turned the show off for a week
At this point i just accept that it is a whole other story and they are just other characters.
Less interesting, sure. But that way they won t spit at the face of the originals.
I can't imagine this Azula actress acting psychotic in the future
The worst thing about this live action was bumi. Like wtf. Bumi was way off, he didn’t taught Aang anything.
Its even the other way round. They did that with a lot of things. The old switcheroo where it didn't make sense at all. Just to say: "Hey, see, what we did? We're so clever.
Zuko seeing Appa and saying: Dont't worry!
Zuko saying to Iroh: Luten would have been proud to be your son. (WHAT?)
June being hot for Iroh. etc
Something about the way iroh dismisses the issues zukos crew has with him rubbed me the wrong way. And kind of made them both a little unlikable to me. I dont mind changes in general but the isolation that zuko feels is important to his growth, and so is dealing with the effects of his flaws and how he treats people. It would have worked better if Iroh talked to zuko about earning loyalty by being thoughtful leader.
They did the face stealer dirty IMO, it would have been so cool to see a live action aang have to be completely emotionless talking to that big ass monster, chucking in a few jump scares and it could have been a great scene
This is such a massive disappointment to me- Why should we be afraid of Ko now? Like seriously how is he even a threat at all if he can only steal the faces of people lost in the fog of souls 😵💫
I also think that introducing Avatar Kuruk was a big mistake, the way they slowly drop seeds in the original builds much more interest, it pays off more when you think back to Ko and realise it was Kuruk’s wife Ummi’s face that Ko took.
If they wanted it to be more edgy and mature then Ko was a fantastic way to convey that but they watered him down so he’s pretty much no threat at all.
Completely butchered everything to do with the spirit world honestly.
The original voice was so much more unsettling too. This koh is okayish.
But the original was just scary, dangerous yet with this sirupy smooth calm voice...
With all critics aside, I still love how they did uncle Iroh's back story when his son died n have zuko gives hope to him, n with the Leaves from the vine instrumental played in the background, hands down gets my feels just like when uncle iroh celebrates his son's birthday in ba sing se.
I love that song so much
The best part of the show only part they did really well
The thing is, it works only because you know the original, are influenced by the pay off and character building of the original.
If you haven t seen the original, it just comes out as a weird but okay scene and the music carries no signification.
So on a media creation pov, it s a total failure, just living off the work of the original.
Now that you have said that, that makes sense n just shows how you need to be coming from the original source material first then to the live action "adaptation" to truly enjoy the show... Good point btw
I'm early on in the video, but I'm very quickly reminded of something I heard - if the acting is an issue across the board, then it often isn't an issue with the actors, but the directors.
A lot of those actors have proven themselves in other roles (be it iroh or katara, they did better elsewhere)
So clearly, the issue here is the lack of direction.
It also shows in all the fighting scenes. There was no direction, no choregraphy etc ...
The notebook makes sense. Is very believable that Zuko would study and keep a dairy of everything he learn about the Avatar. Is not a ridiculous addition. 🙄
Huge fan of the original series. I agree the acting (and therefore the directing) was really green. It gave me the feelings I have going back and watching the first 2 Harry Potter movies when the main 3 characters were very obviously finding their acting chops.
I was actually ok with the heaviness of the burden on Aang in the live action vs the animated. In the animated, you are watching a cartoon war and it grows in how serious it is as the show progresses.
What I’m trying to get at is, it would have been more weird to watch real life human beings watch the avatar act like a kid and not be absolutely furious at the fact that he’s been gone 100 years and shows up and all he wants to do is goof off? They’ve been watching people die. He can’t go penguin sledding and ride the unagi in the live action without coming across as highly unlikeable. Some things play out well animated and don’t translate to real human beings.
Literally this. There was definitely some things wrong ofc, but people need to realize it is an adaptation that deals with real human beings and emotions. It’s meant to be a little different.
THANK YOU
I agree. I think the show was actually good. Just needs some work acting wise and slightly with character building. Could have been way worse though. Could have been cheesy or canny as hell, Horrible effects, etc.
But it wasn’t any if that tbf
Yep exactly
I think there might be more nuance to how people would react to Aang’s goofiness/childlike behavior. Yeah most of the older folk would probably be bitter and reprimand him but I feel like a lot of people would be in disbelief/shock or even hopeful that the Avatar had returned, considering he is somewhat of a mythical figure at this point. I don’t think everyone would be pissed at him especially considering that it’s human nature to want to hold on to the positive and good things in life. I’ve met many people going through hardship or with traumatic upbringings who remain light in spirit.
The loss of the original creators made this version feel like a high school stage play. A true testament to the soul the original show had and how it can't (and shouldn't be) replicated.
*" Animation isn't a genre, it's a medium of the storytelling"*
- Brad Bird (The Incredibles)
A thousand thumbs up. What's with all the braindead repetition of prejudice from 20 years ago?
The whole premise of aang going to the north to find a water bending master but never starts to learn and then they get ready to leave like what!??
Even after all the many Big mistakes I still feel like they have the ability to make this work if there is a season 2 to this. If season two works well with toph and story changes blend in it would be cool to see
I think bad writing was a much bigger problem than bad acting. Ex. They told us they were friends without showing us. There is a ridiculous amount of exposition and the pacing was wonky. The mutilation of katara’s character was the biggest blunder for me.
They took a great female character and made her a Mary Sue.
They took physically fit characters who can preform incredible gymnastics and martial arts, and chose overweight actors who def can not preform any of those physical demands.
They took the most loved Uncle on TV of all time and made him boring.
They took storylines and just threw them out the window, or rushed through them.
The fact they made Yue a knowledge seeking fox is completely ridiculous
Wan Shi Ton should only be in the library. EVER
Go woke go broke
costume designer here, we usually distress and stain a lot of clothes and props to make it look more lived in and real
Alot if people thought the original creators left the Netflix project because Netflix wanted to change it up but in reality the original creators wanted to change it up but Netflix didn't want to. The original creators have stated multiple times they don't like doing the same thing twice
The original creators leaving was the nail in the coffin for me. One piece respected Oda's views and because of that the audience loved it. Who would've thought that respecting the original story with an existing audience would do better than making a show changing the original story for an imaginary audience?
IMO -
The Netflix live adaptation truly hits the mark, checking all the boxes for what makes a great live-action adaptation. While some reviews nitpick about missing scenes from the animated series, I believe it's a wise choice. Replicating every scene and dialogue line by line would eliminate the surprise factor, making it a mere copy-paste of the animated version and predictable. I appreciate the innovative touch, like the Earth Kingdom spy chase in the opening scene of episode 1, offering a fresh perspective for both animated series veterans and new viewers.
For the pacing, appears they opted to streamline some scenes, omitting other the intricate details. This decision likely aimed to prioritize essential scenes and maintain a dynamic pace in the live-action adaptation, preventing the plot from becoming drawn out.
This is exactly how I would interpret the differences. If anything, it brings a more cinematic feel to see some sense of interconnection between the many different and essential plot lines that stem from the original show. There's simply not enough time! It really just feels like people don't appreciate innovations these days, which is something that baffles me 🙄
"It was so diverse!!! I was so happy with that!!!"
(*2 seconds later*)
"The acting needs SERIOUS work..."
Yeah... no shit. That's what happens when you hire people based on looks and ethnicity and not on skill or talent. There's nothing wrong with hiring a very talented actor and putting them in costume or makeup to visually fit the look of the character. It's called ACTING for a reason. It's not meant to be taken as a serious offense. Otherwise... we'd want Leo Dicaprio's head on a plate for his role in Django. 👀
Saying Asian people can't be good actors is racist, saying a white person could've done it better is racist. If you think someone else could've done it better please give names of who you would've cast. And there is something wrong with dressing someone to look Asian to take an ethnic role, that's close to what black face was.
This show had an all Asian cast which is a beautiful thing. These people were cast because they ARE good actors who also looked like the characters and had similar personality and chemistry, if you think the acting seems bad it's the director's fault for saying that's how they wanted it.
Or the fans who think the acting is bad are just wrong and mad that Katata isn't more angry looking. It is an opinion after all.
But some things don't translate to live action so they probably cut a lot of the animated expressions that probably would've looked bad. I believe in the people doing this show being fans and the blue spirit sequemce tells me if they could've kept details they cut they would have.
@@cutecats532 preach...
@@cutecats532 THIS. And even though it started with bad acting, I could see it improving by the end, some of them actually managed to channel the characters as they got used to it. Like some other commenter said, it's kinda like how they werent very credible in the first couple Harry Potters. Let the fresh blood get their grasp on the characters !
@@cutecats532the writing was horrendous, but don’t be telling these lies. The actors & actresses cast for this are horrible. Sokka actor is the probably best of him, Aang, & Katara. And he was mediocre at best. These kids are not seasoned actors and they all have multiple cringe dialogue scenes. Writing didn’t help, but this entire cast was not it. Honestly, only the Zuko actor nailed the role of the younger characters
@@cutecats532 something tells me your the racist one if you immediately take "These actors were bad at their roles" and turn it into "Asians are bad actors" could be just me but that feels pretty bad to insinuate
One of my biggest problems for the show was there was no "filler". People look down on filler because they think it distracts from the plot but you have a hour worth of an episode you can put aside 30 secs of these kids just being kids!
Doom and gloom. Aang trying his best while being berated by EVERYBODY.
All the while all he did is go for a walk.
The problem is y’all tryna compare, “in the original, this that”… that’s why it will never be good to you!!!
I’m glad they renewed it for season 2&3 🕺!
Came across your video Jimmy, so well written and articulated. Subscribed
Netflix needs to stop hiring junior writers for such a big IP. HIRE PROFESSIONAL WRITERS. The only reason onepiece was so good was because the original writer was in it. The witcher was so bad because of the horrid and new writers.
The thing is they only needed one more episode to reach the same run time of the original first season, these people had the formula and everything and still screwed it up. No wonder the original LAB writers left.
I really liked that they remixed all the episodes as someone who is seen the original more than six times. Because I already knew the plot it remained interesting to me to see how they’ve changed things up and what interesting combinations they came up with.
Long ago all four nations live in peace, but everything changed when the Exposition attacked
If Mai can be fat, Aang can be 5’11” and black without complaints.
yeah the most disappointment i got from this are mai and azula cast, they were some of my childhood crush so i was hoping both of them to look sexy in dominating way, but atleast june looks pretty hot
also bumi need some more workout, i was expecting him to look as jacked as an old man can be
@@Biohacker777 Bumi looked disgusting. Not that he was good looking anyway, but come on.
@@Biohacker777 right. Suki should have been azula.
I haven't watched this but Mai is fat? Lol... She was thinner than all of them in the cartoon.
There are alot of fans who loved it too. I'm one of them them. The Audience is 75% on Rotten Tomatos. Which tells me more people liked it than hated it.
Trusting critics is more reliable than the audience rating. Most audience members who can be traced to leave reviews on Rotten Tomatoes are either passionately for, or passionately against. The critic scores are a numerical aggregate of the ratings given by all the critics that have reviewed the film. You don't have to review the series to leave an audience rating. The audience score is an aggregate of all the people who have *chosen* to give the film a score on Rotten Tomatoes. People who choose to give a film a score on Rotten Tomatoes tend not to be on average representative of filmgoers in general, because most filmgoers don’t bother to give the film a score on Rotten Tomatoes. This means that it tends to be people who either *really* like a film, or *really don’t* like it, who bother to go to Rotten Tomatoes and register their like or dislike. Critics aren’t writing for Rotten Tomatoes, they’re writing for their own publications, or their own blogs, so they have to write about the film, because it’s their *job*, or because their blog will lack credibility if they don’t.
So, I would be less inclined to trust the passionate partisanship of people leaving their one-sentence reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, and more inclined to trust the reviews of people who saw the film out of a sense of duty. The latter are…
*… less nuts*
@@KayceWoo the critics are idiots and largely irrelevant, the audience is what actually matters, what pays for and consumes the media. And Rotten Tomatoes is like the buzzfeed of cinema ratings... Nobody takes it seriously
@rath979 professionals that do this for their own publications, or their own blogs, so they have to write about the film, because it’s their *job* are the idiots but not the randos that go make the review with zero qualification's 😂 Comon.
@@CookieMonster-ky1rbSo The Last Jedi was a brilliant movie? Because critics lavished it with praise.
I loved it too... until you actually watch it for the story and not for the visual effects and for the fanservice, like future characters showing up that are irrelevant for the plot.
My thing with the notebook… the entire purpose originally for Zuko to catch the avatar was to reclaim his honor. But the notebook made him look like a closet fanboy.
I will say, the scene when Aang complimented his penmanship, I found it wholesome. But also should only exist in a parallel universe aka fanfic.
To be fair. It s kind of understandable that he would compile any clues on the avatar to find him.
But the penmanship conversation is just awful, because they did show the diary and his penmanship is on a toddler s level 😅
It d be like complimenting this adaptation for being a masterpiece.😅
Have you ever compared "The Untamed" to its animated counterpart?
Not everything could be as to the tea with the cartoon understand but if anybody that's in a comment section that think they could do better why don't you make up your own version of this story since you're no better than what they doing
As long as everyone is hating on the show so much we wont get anymore. The fans will kill this like so many other shows and movies by being too over critical.
Don't worry we'll get a season 2. I don't think they started filming yet. Hopefully they will learn from some of the mistakes from season 1 and improve on season 2. Personally i enjoyed the series. It has a 85% like viewer rating on google and 75% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes. So for sure we get a season 2.
The secret tunnel episode broke my threshold. I have never hated anything like this before. What in the Sweet Home Alabama was happening there!
I think most of the backlash has come from hardcore fans and critics. The audience grade is in the 7.5-8 range and it seems to be very popular on Netflix rn
Trusting critics is more reliable than the audience rating. Most audience members who can be traced to leave reviews on Rotten Tomatoes are either passionately for, or passionately against. The critic scores are a numerical aggregate of the ratings given by all the critics that have reviewed the film. You don't have to review the series to leave an audience rating. The audience score is an aggregate of all the people who have *chosen* to give the film a score on Rotten Tomatoes. People who choose to give a film a score on Rotten Tomatoes tend not to be on average representative of filmgoers in general, because most filmgoers don’t bother to give the film a score on Rotten Tomatoes. This means that it tends to be people who either *really* like a film, or *really don’t* like it, who bother to go to Rotten Tomatoes and register their like or dislike. Critics aren’t writing for Rotten Tomatoes, they’re writing for their own publications, or their own blogs, so they have to write about the film, because it’s their *job*, or because their blog will lack credibility if they don’t.
So, I would be less inclined to trust the passionate partisanship of people leaving their one-sentence reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, and more inclined to trust the reviews of people who saw the film out of a sense of duty. The latter are…
*… less nuts*
@@KayceWooIf the critics had rated it high and audiences hated it, you would be saying the opposite, that critics are paid off, or something, and only trust audiences. You just want your views valudated.
the original ATLA was mature enough for the adult, idk why netflix bother to change that. Migh aswell add a sex scene, if they want to attract GoT audience lol
“Why fans are upset” uses the 59% *critics* rating ignoring the 75% from fans
Dear Creators, yall doing a wonderful job, however, take y’all’s time. Don’t rush it. Follow the literal script of the anime version. Watch where this show goes. Guarantee it blows up
Azusa really is too..uhmm….big.. I know it’s a little mean but she doesn’t look as athletic. Also she CAN NOT fire bend/lightning bend. She doesn’t know how to do it. Lightning bending doesn’t work like that. Also her Firebending isn’t blue :(
HAHAH thank you. I've been saying this everywhere. Since when do you electrocute yourself while lightning bending? Are we not respecting the original attention to detail, with well worked out choreography and a REAL martial arts master? .. Guess not! Let's do some corny movements instead, nobody will notice. Exactly what the orginal creators didn't want. It looking like Disney magic...
Too true @@hemmojito
The original creators of Avatar need to colab with Hulu or something. I hate the netflix version. Aang is so uptight in the show. Suki is made like shes got no social skills. Suki was made to be badass not shy
I don't understand why a live action Avatar is the hardest thing to make. Like they literally just need to do a 1 to 1 adaptation and people would love it. No one asked for a more serious Avatar, that's what Kora is for.
Are we expecting an exact copy of the series though?
Im asking as a huge fan myself... like I was happy they changed it a bit... otherwise it would not be a surprise at all!
Still missed the capture of Aang from Zuko though!
Y'all hatin on the netflix show so hard we won't get to see any adaptation of Toph. Sure, there's things i would've loved to see from the animation series but its an adaptation. We can enjoy the animated series and the Netflix series. There's ways they can implement somethings still from book 1 in seaon 2 but we will never find out cause everyone running to the internet to bash it
Thank you for the review, it helped seeing someone talk about this
Just want to add: the music for me was excelent! I play traditional asian instruments and I loved they used them. They even changed the sounds and instruments from culture to culture, which made the world building more detailed.
The problem ain't the show, the problems are the fans that expecting too much of a live action. The show a great job in my opinion, way better than the movie attempt.
@Eh......... take it from someone who've worked in media, the budget to make it on par with the animated series would cost way more than you'd imagine, and they've already sunk so much into CGI. Trust me, I'm a huge ATLA fan, I've been obsessed since I was a child, but I'm even understanding of what it takes to make these types of live actions.
The show was never gonna be 1 to 1 with the cartoon. It's stil overall the same story, but retold in a different way. It gave us references to characters we love, and side stories we favorited, while also keeping us refreshed with new insights on relationships between characters.
The bond between Iroh and Zuko was portrayed amazingly, Zuko's crew story was mind blowing, Sokka character development in wanting to become a better warrior for his dad's approval was better than him learning to respect women, Azula trying to win over her father's approval is a better taste than just being born loved. The whole backstory about Zuko's scar was painted better than the cartoon, Iroh's backstory when he was captured was painted better than the cartoon.
Did things feel rushed? Yeah of course it did because you can't expect to fit an entire first season of the cartoon into 4 1-hour long episodes before they can give us a great ending to the season.
In summary, quit with the high expectations, be glad they gave us great references, appreciate the new takes, and don't ruin our chances of getting a 2nd season.
Azula was the worst casting. Katara's actor fits but the writing sucks. Imo that is.
Maybe the whole not learning water bending for Aang is to stretch it out (more seasons - less episodes), which would make sense for the format. I kind of liked how Katara was portrayed as very independent with her learning, even though it was a little fast, and I'd sacrifice a little of the deeper development with Aang for that in season 1. With that said, I do think season two first couple of episodes need to really sell the bonding and friendship, otherwise the stakes don't really work (whenever they had to save each other this season it felt more like obligation/plot-points than that they actually cared).
Edit: I do think this season could've benefited a lot from an extra episode. More journey/bonding oriented and with some training/goofing off. Kind of like a filler but just to make some relationships/skills fall into place and feel more natural.
There were zero problems with it.
You have way to high standards
Whatever they did right, can not make up for what they did wrong. It was disappointing I had to stop watching and just rewatch the animated version.
The problem with you critics is you want Netflix to copy everything from the original series.. because that just impossible.. the movie didn't work because the time constraints.. aang not goofing off is a structural change but understandable given it's a massive conflict... because Netflix clearly emphasize responsibility and duty to aang.. and can't blame this Netflix aang because of the devastation of the war to quickly grow up.. you are just nitpicking at this point..
This version for me can't be called a failure.. it's not perfect.. but it's worth watching..
I loved it. I thought it was really well done. The ONLY issue I have is the casting choices for Azula, Mai and Ty Lee. Outside of that I think people aren't giving this show enough credit. And I hope for a season 2.
Nothing went wrong. They did an amazing job.
Great breakdown! I haven't watched the show yet but i wanted to see how different it was from the cartoon. I feel better going into it with all your explanations! Looking forward to checking out the rest of ur content
you cant copy and paste from the cartoon or else everything would be predictable.
can we talk about how katara always looked lost after her lines like the actress kept spacing out
This show is Albert Kim’s fanfiction of what he wants Avatar to be rather than what it is.
My brother and I really loved the 3d cgi when ang or katara would quickly jump on something and start bending it looked great to me
I think a lot of these criticisms are simply stemming from the fact that they compressed an entire season's worth of narratives in to eight hours. That's a sacrifice natural to TV making, regardless of source material. Hopefully they take people's feedback to heart and perhaps take season 2 a little slower.
Aang is supposed to white. To me it's wrong to think only Asians can be monks. It's a culture and religion not a race.
I have never seen a white monk... just saying
@@virtuaguyverify aang.
@@virtuaguyverify I mean our world is based on western culture so it would be different. Avatar planet based on Eastern culture.
@Blackheart i also like the white monk, I like your attitude
The show is very good. I think they did an excellent job adapting the story. With only eight episodes they were able to tell the story, brought in all the important characters, didn’t forget about details, and what they did change made sense. Fans need to relax and stop expecting adaptations to be identical. This was not as good as the show, but unlike the movie, this was a great show. The show also has more seasons and therefore opportunities to add things they may have missed. Overall the changes or misses didn’t ruined the experience of the show.
I honestly think the play in the cartoon original show was better.
I think one thing they were definitely struggling with was understanding the perspective of the main audience/fandom that grew up watching this show as children. We all tend to remember certain things from the show through a lens of emotion and impact, at least moreso than the novelty of the world (tho that novelty is what grabbed our attention and made it all linger longer).
For example, Koh was impactful BECAUSE we knew he might steal Aang's face, and we were all on the edge of our seats worried that Aang would mess up, and left wondering if WE could even pull it off. This made everything even scarier, with Koh's very distrubing design solidifying it as nightmare fuel to us kids. It also sneakily tought us a little bit more about how we all physically express our emotions.
We didn't just enjoy the Koh story for the novelty of seeing a creepy spirit, we enjoyed it because it was so freaking intense and hype! Without the right vibe, its meaningless.
Another aspect to consider is that most of us tuned into the show through TV re-runs, and so we didnt always know why a character was there or who they really were. The creators knew this would be the case, so to avoid too much confusion, they made almost every episode its own standalone story (though a piece of a bigger arc) and they simplified each character into a trope that was easy to understand. You tuned in and saw an angry, volatile guy with a scar shooting fire out of his body and you thought "Oh, so he's the villain! And it makes sense that he's a firebender too because he's so angry and mean! He's just like fire itself!"
The impact of much of what we saw as kids can largely be boiled down to a few words per episode and a few words per character, which capture general vibes, tropes, or emotions surrounding these things. And the Netflix version failed to capture A TON of that nuance in this adaptation. They didn't bother to think about how these stories impacted us or their lessons, or how we understood certain characters growing up. Instead, they just focused on the existence of those individual things themselves, thus removing them of their emotional attachment.
They took a lot from Zuko as well, but overall it's still a good character.
For example: He didn't fight back to his father for the love he had on the animated series and also, he was a 12 years old, he didn't stand a chance to the FIre Lord at that point, contribuiting to his relisient personality and how he worked really hard to became a real master, it will be hard for them to justify when zuko screamed ""You've always thrown everything you could at me. Well I can take it, and now I can give it back! Come on, strike me!" because Zuko seems to be a prodigy now. Don't know. So I really didn't liked the Agni Kai cause of that. But the relationship with Iroh is good.
Overall, he is still a pretty good character on the Netflix adaptation.
It's like Netflix just removed all the flaws from the "good" characters and made the "bad" characters just hateful, insecure instead of just evil as Azula should have been.
Just to add, Jet and Katara interaction became meaningless.
Small note, Zuko in the original is 16, and 17 when he takes the throne. But I agree Netflix made Zuko too powerful, and they made Azula and Ozai too weak.
@@EatHoneyBeeHappy he was 16 when he met the avatar right? So he was like 13 when the agni Kai happened no? Just want to double check
@@Erebo616 That's correct, my mistake I didn't know you were talking about his age during the Agni Kai.
This adaptation was horrible. The fighting scenes were the only positives but at the same time super random. Like you said Katara got OPed out of nowhere! I doubt I will watch season 2. I'm just going to bleach my eyes and cleanse my soul by rewatching the original for the 100th time now
I pretty much agree with all your points. I didn’t have many issues with the Spirit world stuff. Except for Wan Shi Tong. He had no narrative purpose whatsoever. Especially since they cut the Zhao finding the library. The Yue addition in the spirit world was ok. It’s odd they chose a Fox form considering the lore. I would have believed a fish instead. Maybe they just wanted to fake out the fans? But still I think it sets up her spiritual connection and her relationship with Sokka well. It’s nice that she is able to be engaged with her relationship with Sokka instead of constantly pushing away.
I disagreed with bringing white actors in the show though, it feels more authentic to have asian actors in an asian setting.
The entire set/costumes made it feel like cosplay to me. Strictly because no one looked ever hot, cold, sweaty or out of place. Very controlled sets. (Which obviously make it easier to shoot and reset)
Based on the fact the people of the Northern Water Tribe live in a North Pole-like area, their clothes should have some abrasion of the surface due to their hunting routine, or some parts covered with frost or maybe hardened in the cold temperature. And shouldn't they breathe out fog whenever they open their mouth, especially talking? That's basic science. The Kyoshi Warriors should also have abrasion on their clothes, espacially on the joints and palms, some parts could also have patches or stitches, and even have parts of the fabric torn and ripped, it not only shows they are experienced fighters, but also tells the audience how tough they are.
Hate the casting for Katara and Sokka, both look like Walmart brand versions of the original
Around 10 minutes in you say a phrase that describes much of my reaction to the season: they missed the opportunity to make so much of a lot better. I have theories as to why they fell short, but won’t discuss them here. Overall, it wasn’t bad. It could have a lot worse, but should have been a lot better. I was hopeful going in, came out a bit disappointed. It’s like getting to play 7 minutes in heaven in junior high, then finding out it was with your ugly cousin…
LOL this made me laugh 😂
Its definitely rushed, but still really good.